Only approximately a million blacks lived in the cities by 1980, with the majority of blacks (over 7million) living in rural areas with very bad conditions. So for that guy to say life was good coz they got milk at the door etc is a narrow-minded view. We need to analyze these things holistically. There were no schools or clinics in most rural areas. Life was bad for blacks.
Thanks for sharing your take. Do you think if things were left in place (as the gentleman in the original video implied), then eventually the 1 million blacks would’ve been able to improve the conditions of the next million and then the next and then the next? Or was it simply an atrocity to leave any form of colonization in place? See more of his sentiments on COLONIZATION in this video then please make our comment section a place to share your thoughts on this interview: th-cam.com/users/liveEGC3B-rei2I?si=dbOa4WdEzdnCYno1
Thank you for this analysis the Megabush. I’m sick to to the stomach of the racial segregation that happened not only to Zimbabweans but Africans at large . Vanga vasingatidi varungu, nanhasi havatidi and it’s high time we look after our own. Ivhu kuvanhu. As much as the system was organised. Our grandparents( the majority) were still poor. They would get peanuts as compared to whites working in the same organisation. Education was bottleneck amd it goes on. How would we have built from zero resources. Zero education and fear instilled in us not to retaliate (all in the name of christianity)… it’s a broken system, our people our broken, it will take ages until our people recover…… it hurts me to the core and until we make a vivid decision to change the narrative isu sevanhu vatema, eventually our kids , our grandchildren will experience a better zimbabweans. How do u praise a person who steals your resources and builds all these nice buildings and say you were better off( disheartening!) We had our way of doing things… we were okay…eventually we would catch up ( in our own way!) … isnt the great Zimbabwe a sign of architectural intelligence- were they educated , NOPE! Doesnt the great zimbabwe stand today over 300 years later! While we cant spend all day , playing the blame girl. Our people , our leadership can do better! We are not confident enough, blinded by numerous doctrines , you cant even ask questions because “you will not see heaven” .. WE CAN DO BETTER, the generations before us have done a bit of change (grateful for that) but right now is the time to do better! Vulani amehlo guys! Personally i would say, hatikanganwe our past, zvironda hazvipori…. Haifaniri kupera kusvika tahwina. Kupera kusvika tahwina is when we keep our resources within our continent, trade among ourselves. Kana vachida, vouya tovapa mabasa. Because i don’t understand countries colonial debt in 2024!For what! We don’t even own our country, the queen does! On what grounds vana vevhu! The same countries that benefit from us make us go through hell to get just a visa. Hai hai i got angered by simply watching snippets of the video u reacted to!
We see your passion. Thanks for sharing. We’re happy to provide a platform for discussion. Don’t get too angry from the snippets, go watch his full video first, then come back here and let us know what you think.
Well said Tino.i get angered too.Some working people in UK go to food bank as well because they can't afford food.These people are angry because they simply can't have the luxuries they used to have in our country. I speak to our zim people also ,there are issues in every nation,don't just be negative all the time,there are a lot of positives in our nation.
Thank you Megabush for this response. Rhodesia died because they never recognised blacks as equal human beings. For the record, better to live poor in a free country than to to have a false sense of wealth under an oppresive system. I say good riddance.
@@TheMegabushFamilyAbsolutely appreciate you showing the other perspective. Africa needs to change the narrative and stop Western propagandists from spreading biased narratives.
They wish they were still in zimbabwe enjoying because believe you me western world there is no comfort ,no gate man,house girl they used to enjoy.they should just leave our zimbabwe alone
I grew up in the 1980s, life was great in the 80s and early 90s. The Zim dollar was equivalent to the USD. Basic commodities were so affordable, education was free from primary to secondary school. University and Polytechnic was also free because it was 100% subsidized by the government with grants and loans which were usually forgiven if you were not employed. Zimbabwe started going downhill when IMF imposed ESAP. The cost of living skyrocketed and that was the beginning of Labour Union protests and a chain of other problems. Zimbabwe was a shining example in education, healthcare and agriculture. Even Pik Botha the former Apartheid Prime Minister of South Africa praised Zimbabwe and said they have the best education system. People from Botswana sent their kids to Zimbabwean schools, some of them still do.
@@Bourne-fu8bz very true. There were govt subsidies. I completed university and did not have to look for a job. There were govt job placements. And we were given start up loans.
I lived in England for 23yrs i don't like Zanu but what i observed in English politics they can do what ever they do during campaigns but after elections who ever win or not they come together and build there nation thats what us Zim should do put politics aside and come together and build our nation who ever the leader who is there at the time lets support them thats the only thing that can make us to come together
Why do people forget that the economy catered for very few people. i.e whites only.no electricity.no apartheid was bad.inspections.mums not allowed in towns..separations for months. I was a teen my experience is very different.Zengeza yakauya nezuro iyo.tinoziva vana Chirambahuyo
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for this reaction. I saw this video almost 2 weeks ago and the unmelaneted were having a party and i tried to push back as much as i could so im glad you used your platform to react.
Me too, I'm glad someone with platform took the courage to refute the lies. Change the narrative. We cannot allow outsiders to drive the narrative when we can drive our own narrative
Watched the documentary it was a mockery looking for failures than successes. And bitter Rhodesians poured in with negative comments but Zimbabwe was under sanctions for 20 years as punishment for land acquiresition of course infrastructure is poorly. Right now they wish to come back coz that was the best time of their lives having met many in UK, Australia and other parts regretting why they left. Zimbabwe sanctions were used as an examplery deterent to other African countries who wish to take back land. Having luxuries not owning land and means of production amounts to colonisation
There was a need for land reform no question , in a transparent and legal manner…. It was a violent land grab , White farmers and the few Black commercial farmers had their farms seized- Farmers and their black farm workers were murdered , raped and tortured as retribution for supporting the new and viable MDC political party in that referendum Mugabe lost….Zimbabwe became a lawless country - it was horrendous and life threatening being a supporter of the MDC … it was the violence and human rights abuse that prompted Sanctions on Zimbabwe.
You talk about successes, can you talk about them so that we can equally have the positives spoken about. I presume there hasn't been none that's why you are just blowing wind.
@@TheMegabushFamily I luv dis topic very much n continues to self educate in dis area. Living in da west n often facing subtle racism makes one want to know more abt my black self n find reasons y those who claim to b ''superior'' will do everything to suppress my being n my history. Bless u guys n plz keep similar topics coming. Forgive my txt language.
The government in Zimbabwe needs to do a lot of work to decolonise the minds of its citizens through education and a decolonised curriculum. The only person talking sense is this whole video is that sister who clearly knows what she's talking about. The sister who mentioned Gambia and the Road to Damascus. That brother is truly so colonised mentally that it's embarrassing. White is not right.
The sister is too angry and not accepting fair and true points made by the brother. I don’t understand this ‘Decolonised’ mind of which you speak. What is it? That ‘white is not right, and black is always right despite clear failings’? That’s not ‘decolonisation’ that’s pride and wilful ignorance.
They’re actually siblings from the same household. But with different perspectives on the matter. Yet, their conclusion on the way forward are the same. We hope this can also be the outcome in greater Zimbabwe, we can have different perspectives of the past, but in the end all do the right thing now and work together for the greater good of all Zimbabweans.
@TheMegabushFamily Thank you ❤️ Respectfully, when it comes to colonisation, its harms, and its lasting impact, we cannot say, "let's respect both perspectives." This is because the colonised do not have the power to bring their perspective to the centre of the discourse. The coloniser, on the other hand, has had centuries of power to exercise psychological and intellectual violence, imposing their narrative and perspective on both the colonised and those observing from the outside. The first country in Africa to gain independence from colonialism is only a few decades old. How can we compare that with the centuries of colonial violence inflicted on that country and others across the continent? People like that brother, who look admiringly at countries like the USA, UK, and EU, are ignorant of the fact that these nations reached their current status through slavery, colonial genocide, and theft. Are we just going to pretend that didn't happen-that they didn’t commit crimes against humanity to get rich and "organised"? Are we going to ignore that their "skills of organisation" developed out of their need to keep meticulous records of the people they enslaved and the wealth they stole from the "colonies"? Are we going to ignore that the first Holocaust in human history happened just next door to Zimbabwe in Namibia where Germany carried out experiments on the Herero people? That so-called German "science" and "rationality" developed out of genocide against Black Africans? Anyone who says "we've done worst things against our own people" exposes that he's illiterate about the history of Africa and Africans. All violence is bad but context also matters. African countries are doing their best without colonising anyone, even while their resources are still being stolen by the so-called "civilised" world. Anyone who has lived in the USA, UK, or other parts of Europe knows that people in Africa are better off. We take many things for granted in Africa. The UK, in particular, is a sh*thole. Zimbabweans who move to the UK often end up regretting leaving their country. Many African and Jamaican families in the UK are sending their UK-born children to attend schools in Jamaica and their African homelands because UK education and schools are dysfunctional. There are many British, American, and European children in Zimbabwean boarding schools right now. All that glitters is not gold. Africans should stop believing the colonial myths and lies that white people are organised and that white countries are better. You’d be shocked by the level of dysfunction, poverty, illiteracy, and lack of education in countries like the USA, Australia, the UK, and other EU nations. All that glitters is not gold. The only thing they have truly excelled at is marketing themselves and their countries through PR because they understood it would boost investment if they only told the world rosy stories about their nations. Meanwhile, they encourage Africans to focus on demonising themselves and their own countries, to the point where people are afraid of visiting or investing.
@Faridbuza We read every last word of your comment, as a Jamaican with a heritage of slavery, what you’ve said totally resonates with me. Also, I 100% agree about the education and schooling point too. Thanks for sharing! -Debs
Megabush family, I say this with the utmost respect. Let’s not gloss over the black on black oppression we are currently experiencing at the hands of ZanuPF. To be oppressed by your own people is another kind of pain. Majority of people in Zimbabwe are suffering. We are under a dictatorship. The liberation struggle has started only benefitted an handful of people. We are not free in Zimbabwe! NOT YET UHURU.
Look what the Babylonian, did to Africa's beautiful Africa. Mama Africa is crying for her children. God in Heaven hears her cry, and will give her victory, one day soon she will be victorious. I remember as a child, this song. It goes like this. Why the color of my skin is said to be an awful sin, why Lord. But as I get older, I realize that God sees and knows everything.
Very good reaction, thanks to the MegaBush Family. What is the definition of civilization to start with if it’s not the way a society is organized just to simplify and for what we know every society in Africa were very well organized, do I have to give exemples? Ghana empire, Luba empire and all the royalties in Africa so Africa were civilized way before bat minded people stepped their foot there; so nobody brought civilization to Africa but they came to destroy and disorganize everything because they couldn’t stand the beauty of Africa’s diversity, culture, language, climate, resources and mostly the bravery and the beauty of its people!! Doing thing differently doesn’t mean people were not civilized!! They brought nothing apart of destruction. Way before them there, people were happy, leaving in perfect harmony with their environment, not selfish, contented!
Geopolitics killed Rhodesia, nothing else. It won’t come back because the people and conditions that created it are gone. Zimbabwe can never be an example of black and white people moving forward together . The whites were forced out so that’s not possible. Zimbabwe can overcome in spite of squandering Rhodesia’s wealth. Sanctions should be lifted because it’s just holding people back.
It’s blatantly obvious the same conditions are still there unless you’ve buried your head in the sand like most….there was oppression during the colonial era and there’s still oppression to this day - only difference black Zimbabweans are being oppressed by their so called liberators…to the point where folks are too frightened to speak their minds here incase the CIO have caught wind.
Geopolitics was an immediate/secondary cause not the primary one. They were asked to grant majority rule at a time when they could have owned the narrative and the process and emerge as heroes. If you watch the documentaries from the 70s you can see that the blacks just wanted basic human dignity and access to the same rights. But well, as the common belief of white people was that Blacks were below them or as good as cattle, they could not share power.
Zimbabwe is a miracle and God's smile on earth. Yes, it is true that we used to have milk delivered to our doors, but that had nothing to do with the country being better under colonial genocide. There is a reason why it is only a few people😢 in former settler colonies like Zimbabwe and South Africa who make ignorant comments such as "things were better under colonialism because we had x, y, z." For those reading this who may not know what a "settler colony" is, it refers to a territory where colonisers moved large numbers of their own people to resettle as settlers. Their aim was to recreate a little England or France in the "colony." They did this in parts of the world they considered valuable in terms of material wealth. The purpose of the white populations sent there was to safeguard this wealth for the benefit of their countries of origin, essentially to steal and protect the wealth for Britain, France, etc. In order to keep those white populations happy so that they wouldn't feel the need to return to Britain, Germany, Belgium, or France, the colonising countries tried to recreate versions of Europe and idealised European lifestyles that they would never have or could afford in their original European countries. If you search online archives, you will see how the British government advertised in newspapers, encouraging poor young white men to "migrate" to "Rhodesia" on behalf of the empire, with promises of adventure and lives of luxury under the African sun. The "nice things" people now speak of as being better under colonialism were never built for them or with noble intentions; they were built only for white settlers using African wealth and with the aim of stealing that wealth for the colonisers. Even the hospitals were not built for Black people. To keep the colonised populations pacified and subservient, they were given small conveniences like milk deliveries to their doors. This was done to increase productivity for the colonisers. It's similar to the history of "sick leave," which started during slavery on plantations to keep enslaved people "fit" and "healthy" enough to work. It was not because the slavers were kind or champions of well-being. Another point to consider is that during colonialism, the country's resources benefited only a small white population. After independence, those same resources had to benefit the entire population. In Zimbabwe’s case, Black people inherited not only a sabotaged economy but also a small portion of resources that were expected to serve the majority Black population. Until the Land Reform and indigenisation laws were introduced, the resources remained in the hands of a small white elite. This meant that there were no more milk deliveries because the Black government had to build thousands of new schools for the millions of Black children who had been denied education under colonialism. More affordable homes also had to be built for Black people-all with limited resources. Then ESAP (Economic Structural Adjustment Programme) was enforced on Zimbabwe by the IMF in the 1980s and 1990s, long before the Land Reform and sanctions, the same way it was imposed Caribbean countries and other parts of the Global South. There were also massive droughts in the 1980s and 1990s in a country that relies heavily on agriculture. It is due to God's grace and the resilience of Zimbabweans that the country survived all that, even before the sanctions became an issue. Zimbabwe never had the chance to fully realise its potential after independence. Before and soon after independence, it was sabotaged by Ian Smith's agents and the Apartheid regime of South Africa. Zimbabwe had just emerged from what is described as "Africa's Vietnam War"-the Zimbabwe War of Chimurenga, one of the longest and most brutal wars in modern history. Yet Zimbabwe limped on, albeit with challenges. Yes, corruption also happened in Zimbabwe, and it still happens, but which country on earth is not corrupt? There’s a reason why the UK has repeatedly been described as one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The level of corruption in countries like the UK and the USA would embarrass even the most corrupt governments in Africa. The difference between African countries and Western countries is that in Africa, we openly talk about corruption because we recognise it when we see it. In the UK and other countries, corruption is so large-scale and normalised that people don't even bother talking or doing anything about it. They have also been convinced by their governments that corruption is something that only happens in brown and Black countries. The difference is also that in the West, you can get away with corruption, while in most African countries, you can be arrested if discovered.
There was oppression in Rhodesia but no genocide , ever - the only genocide that occurred was Mugabe’s handy work in Matabeleland in the mid 80’s . Gukurahundi massacres.
@gavinmcleod7446 Colonialism is always genocide, wherever and whenever it happens. Not just in terms of dead bodies but also systems of knowledge and cultural genocide, the erasure of a people's identities, languages, etc. The "reserves" which were created by the British in Zimbabwe by displacing and uprooting Black populations from their original lands and place them in "reserves," was an act of genocide.
Well from the content shared and the context i feel we need more discussions like these were we simply point out the flaws and elements we need addressed. The whole point is whats next. Rhodesia in all its context was oppressive and only benefitted a few. Where even the rich black folk were really still under oppression. To then compare it with Zimbabwe i think is wrong. As we have very different backgrounds and ideas. How ever this was a very good starting point! Just watched the video that guy is one sided. Focused on his own opinion
So happy you went and watched the video. We’re also happy you understood the context and realized the whole point is what next? Him going back and glorifying colonization helps no one.
Clinics in the location provided better service than what you get in current hospitals. Rail service . Tryes made in zim locals could afford to go to national parks. The truth of the matter life was better.
As a Zimbabwean who has grown up overseas, I have to say I am disappointed with the criticisms I hear about Rhodesia from my parents & fellow Zimbabweans. The reason being that the only negatives I hear are “They were unkind, we weren’t allowed in certain stores, or in certain neighbourhoods” - is that it? I’m sorry, but we have to realise that other peoples have been enslaved, or experienced genocide or daily lynchings. Australian aborigines are now only 3% of Australia. The indigenous South Americans were basically completely wiped out in the Caribbean and South America. I’m not defending Rhodesians, but as long as we had adequate food, water, shelter and education - eventually we would’ve been able to slowly but surely ascend. It didn’t need to be torn down just because they “didn’t like us” - that’s just not a strong enough reason, why do we want to be liked so much? If we weren’t allowed in a white store, why not just go to a black one? The issue is we wanted what they had, rather than just having sufficient resources to build ourselves up!
I was not there when it was Rhodes’ personally inscribed territory…but l know some simple life truths. If you mistreat a people, eventually those people will resent you enough to retaliate. Roadies should have treated people… like people. You know,… like how in the 80s and early 90s post independence Black people took them to be equals (hence many of them stayed…comfortably so too at that).
Pets get fed by their masters that's great. Also, Zimbabwe took a downturn when the IMF imposed austerity measures. Zimbabwe had no money to grow so foolishly borrowed a loan. There is a Vijay Prashad who explains how the west manipulates the financial system in their favor. They do this to the Global South how they liberalize the economy so they can take advantage of others. Racism isn't just whipping people it's also institutions to prevent proper self-reliance.
Yes, when we spoke to people to hear their feedback on the video we’re reacting to, we realized people’s views were mixed, some would agree with you, others say their experience was just too bad. So it’s good for us to really hear each other (black, white everyone in between), acknowledge our various wrongs and in the end conclude on the best way forward).
@@TheMegabushFamilyThank you for your response! I am sometimes frustrated seeing some of the reactions of people back home - I just don’t feel we have the full picture, I really hope we can leave racial politics behind and build a unified country that deals with ‘good vs. evil’ not ‘black vs. white’.
Thank You for this documentation. We are in a paradox and all sides that have culminated into this country must be heard. Ordinary Zimbabweans have not really broadcasted our thoughts in this format and l believe ownership of our missteps and strengths must be the seeds to a better future. I am confident that a lot of the White community that are still here also are equally passionate about our nation. Hopefully we’ll take only positive aspects of our history and build a better future multicultural Zimbabwe. Thank You Megabush Family. I will promptly recommend this video to other platforms.
It was oppression clothed in trickery. In order to get an answer you have to ask ‘Why’. The goal should always be to Run Your Own Race! Great discussion. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾♥️🙏🏾
Hi, had to appreciate the efforts you put in making your videos. The high quality editing and good research. Makes me wonder if you have a film and editing background since I know you're a doctor. Anyways, keep it up
😅😅😅 no film/editing background whatsoever, just like creating/art. Thanks so much for appreciating our work. We do try to produce content we’d like ourselves. It does take a lot of effort so we’re happy when our viewers never take it for granted. Thank you🙏🏾
People,l also am a rhodesian..it was really really hard ....for us in the rural areas we were moved to mwenezi in the mountains ..please understand ....In the rural we had no rural hospital...no clinic
😅 thanks for your observation. No available stock photo of Zimbabweans in traditional wear to convey “the indigenous” appearance we want for the theme of the reaction. So we decided to go instead with anything that would convey “Africa”, since really, the vide we’re reacting to made references to the entire continent. Hope that makes sense to you. Thanks for watching!
We still need boarders, we talk different languages, we’re not the same, zim is for zimbos, don’t come here start talking abjut free boarder..we need boarders
I like the balance in the video but we have to be honest with ourselves that the trauma of colonisation will leave with us for the rest of our lives.We have made our own mistakes and we do have beautiful stories to tell
Compared to what she was, it’s fair to describe Zim as ruins. Clearly, the leadership has not maintained/ upgraded the infrastructure.The railways, road networks, hospitals, etc are a terrible state. All a result of greed, corruption,and misplaced priorities. Truth hurts.
Maybe he was one of those foreigners who came from Malawi, Mozambique etc. Because for most real Zimbabweans were in rural areas and they were suffering
But they erased our history and made us forget our history so that by the next generation- there were no memories of many aspects of our way old way of life. They even gave us new names So I do not agree with the brother he has so much compassion for the British but how about the remains of Nehanda in the museum
I agree with everything this man says his very wise nd build nit a Divider. Th only thing I m confused about Are the Coloureds not Zimbabweans were they not born there is Zimbabwe nit the only country they know do they nit hv Black Mothers, fathers Why are they never included or mentioned or are they paying for sins they had no controle of. Coloureds in those days we're also controlled they had to live where they put to live nd much more. However X for this vlogg it was interesting. The day we all hv open minds is when we will live in peace.
Thanks so much for your feedback. Open minds yes. In Jamaica, “coloured” people are not viewed separately (especially since so many Jamaicans have a “colourful” family). I was really surprised to see that in Zim they’re viewed as a separate group alltogether.
@TheMegabushFamily I think it's because most of them where classified to be close to whites and there were no close interactions with the blacks. While there was no strife between the two groups however they had less in common in terms of language(native), culture etc and most never tried to assimilate
Southern Rhodesia and Northern Rhodesia , South Africa , South West Africa/ Namibia - all had segregation laws - the Coloured communities were multi generational in those countries and had their own suburbs and schools…they co existed and inter married within their own communities - many of these women had children with Whites - eg British , Italian , Portuguese, Jewish , Greek and even Indians - this was Taboo given the racial laws at the time ….a very diverse community - The coloured community is very diverse and only English speaking - they can’t and dont speak the indigenous African languages - Never the less a very diverse community and still very close knit - I can only speak for a Zim.
Advance civilization or advance weaponry? Presently, in so called developed countries, people are choosing to live the simpler life. To them this is a richer way to spend their life. Why do you think the African forefathers way was inferior?
Racism will always exist even in developed countries like USA UK etc. Life in Rhodesia we put milk bottles outside in location the milkman would leave milk. There was cleaning of streets repairing of roads . We had playgroundsas kids . Libraries
Definitely get this. It seems everyone agrees the public infrastructure and services were much better in Rhodesia. But like you’ve said here, there’s racism everywhere. So the question is, if everywhere else in the world there’s racism, where then do we get to call “ours”? To call home”?
British shud acknowledge our oneness not to try and forge a lie what have they done to build Zimbabwe themselves?? Who's stopped them from making a contribution in 44 years?? Doing nothing hiding on a Visa for 44 years nonsense, come back home
zizi kurungwa munyu, hanzi ndave hukuwo.if economics is about cost efficiency to maximise profits. Mud huts remain the most profitable and eco friendly households.Rusero till date is the safest and fastest air transportation.Rhodesia brought TB Cancer Diabetes to our people , plastics chemicals rats to our soil , industrial and car smoke to our air.All this concrete and steel development we praise and work for today will be destroyed for a greener world in the future.
We get where you’re coming from. Please note this is not a video on politics, it’s a reaction video to someone else’s presentation of history. Have you watched the video we’re responding to?
Yes I saw it. Your intent was good and clean but maybe not everyone will see it clearly. Politics is a polarising thing in Zim....... tread carefully. anyway, all the best 👍.
Honestly this is not politics but an honest civil discussion and they did it a great way by opening the floor for a healthy debate. They were impartial and even a blind man will be able to see that their intent was not malicious. I commend them for not being cowards. Sometimes we need voices like them and while it's not their territory its great for them to do so when there is a need and void in terms of the necessary push back
We actually felt the same that it’s indeed too complex. But we hoped that if you watch Brittanica1’s video then ours, it would at least trigger a conversation/discussion in the comments section which addresses all the complexities of the matter-and we talk about it together. What we both unapologetically say NO to is the idea that colonization was good! Which is this guy’s angle. Please watch this th-cam.com/video/vAze9oAjLbU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QplcZINeJgxWZ_kL You can then also watch the full interview if you’d like.
I think you completely misunderstood and misinterpreted his video. Sure he has a narrative and a bit of an agenda with highlighting the negatives, but nothing that he says in the video is wrong. Over 40 years of independence and hardly anything to show for it while the whole country is slowly deteriorating due to corruption and mismanagement. You can't argue with that, it's pure facts that the country has gone to sh*t. We've allowed megalomaniacs and incompetence to completely run our once prosperous nation into the ground.
How do you expect a country to progress on heavy sanctions to grow its economy. They made sure nothing works in zimbabwe. They want zimbabwe to fail so other countries don't try to get their lands back, firing to face the same consequences as Zimbabwe. They want you to believe only them can do the right thing and it is working because we African have no self worth, and it is sad
Thanks for all your contributions to the discussion. We appreciate the conversation so much, and it’s good when we can discuss all the facts without animosity but just to understand experiences, acknowledge facts, and hopefully agree on the way forward, not to be divisive. We can only truly move forward and achieve prosperity if we come together.
@@innocentemessy You're delusional, the sanctions are in place because the government is a single party state incapable of holding free and fair democratic elections. They're warranted because Zanu's actions deserve sanctions out of principle. The country doesn't even have a functioning currency and you're talking about export sanctions... lol. Also I didn't say anything about race, there are loads of capable indigenous Zimbabweans who are able to run the country effectively. The problem is they don't get it into power and we silently watch as our futures and our children's futures get looted.
This is a solid response to a dreadful video that actually grew my sense of national pride. It's those racist sentiments that make me appreciate being a Zimbabwean.
Only approximately a million blacks lived in the cities by 1980, with the majority of blacks (over 7million) living in rural areas with very bad conditions. So for that guy to say life was good coz they got milk at the door etc is a narrow-minded view. We need to analyze these things holistically. There were no schools or clinics in most rural areas. Life was bad for blacks.
Thanks for sharing your take.
Do you think if things were left in place (as the gentleman in the original video implied), then eventually the 1 million blacks would’ve been able to improve the conditions of the next million and then the next and then the next?
Or was it simply an atrocity to leave any form of colonization in place?
See more of his sentiments on COLONIZATION in this video then please make our comment section a place to share your thoughts on this interview:
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Thank you for this analysis the Megabush. I’m sick to to the stomach of the racial segregation that happened not only to Zimbabweans but Africans at large . Vanga vasingatidi varungu, nanhasi havatidi and it’s high time we look after our own. Ivhu kuvanhu. As much as the system was organised. Our grandparents( the majority) were still poor. They would get peanuts as compared to whites working in the same organisation. Education was bottleneck amd it goes on. How would we have built from zero resources. Zero education and fear instilled in us not to retaliate (all in the name of christianity)… it’s a broken system, our people our broken, it will take ages until our people recover…… it hurts me to the core and until we make a vivid decision to change the narrative isu sevanhu vatema, eventually our kids , our grandchildren will experience a better zimbabweans.
How do u praise a person who steals your resources and builds all these nice buildings and say you were better off( disheartening!)
We had our way of doing things… we were okay…eventually we would catch up ( in our own way!) … isnt the great Zimbabwe a sign of architectural intelligence- were they educated , NOPE! Doesnt the great zimbabwe stand today over 300 years later!
While we cant spend all day , playing the blame girl. Our people , our leadership can do better! We are not confident enough, blinded by numerous doctrines , you cant even ask questions because “you will not see heaven” .. WE CAN DO BETTER, the generations before us have done a bit of change (grateful for that) but right now is the time to do better! Vulani amehlo guys!
Personally i would say, hatikanganwe our past, zvironda hazvipori…. Haifaniri kupera kusvika tahwina. Kupera kusvika tahwina is when we keep our resources within our continent, trade among ourselves. Kana vachida, vouya tovapa mabasa. Because i don’t understand countries colonial debt in 2024!For what! We don’t even own our country, the queen does! On what grounds vana vevhu! The same countries that benefit from us make us go through hell to get just a visa.
Hai hai i got angered by simply watching snippets of the video u reacted to!
We see your passion. Thanks for sharing. We’re happy to provide a platform for discussion. Don’t get too angry from the snippets, go watch his full video first, then come back here and let us know what you think.
Oh please Tino sparks, you’re a ZanuPF puppet. We remember your Parirenyatwa video 🚮
This post needs to be pinned
Well said Tino!❤
Well said Tino.i get angered too.Some working people in UK go to food bank as well because they can't afford food.These people are angry because they simply can't have the luxuries they used to have in our country. I speak to our zim people also ,there are issues in every nation,don't just be negative all the time,there are a lot of positives in our nation.
If Zim.is such a "failure" why are they all there and still coming? Smh
Thank you Megabush for this response. Rhodesia died because they never recognised blacks as equal human beings. For the record, better to live poor in a free country than to to have a false sense of wealth under an oppresive system. I say good riddance.
You’re welcome! The conversation should be had, they need to understand our perspective too.
@@TheMegabushFamilyAbsolutely appreciate you showing the other perspective. Africa needs to change the narrative and stop Western propagandists from spreading biased narratives.
That guy is not thinking really
I like Tony and wife not that boy who is colonized mentally
I disagree. That is pride talking, not reason and humility. The corrupt Zimbabwe has killed more Zimbabweans than the so called racist Rhodesia did.
They wish they were still in zimbabwe enjoying because believe you me western world there is no comfort ,no gate man,house girl they used to enjoy.they should just leave our zimbabwe alone
I grew up in the 1980s, life was great in the 80s and early 90s. The Zim dollar was equivalent to the USD. Basic commodities were so affordable, education was free from primary to secondary school. University and Polytechnic was also free because it was 100% subsidized by the government with grants and loans which were usually forgiven if you were not employed. Zimbabwe started going downhill when IMF imposed ESAP. The cost of living skyrocketed and that was the beginning of Labour Union protests and a chain of other problems. Zimbabwe was a shining example in education, healthcare and agriculture. Even Pik Botha the former Apartheid Prime Minister of South Africa praised Zimbabwe and said they have the best education system. People from Botswana sent their kids to Zimbabwean schools, some of them still do.
Wow!! Sounds amazing. May we one day recapture those achievements! And we can!
@@Bourne-fu8bz very true. There were govt subsidies. I completed university and did not have to look for a job. There were govt job placements. And we were given start up loans.
Let us not forget that one of the main reason we are in this crisis is because of serious corruption and poor governance.
Rhodesia was bad in so many ways but there a few things we can learn on how they managed to have a strong economy under sanctions.
I lived in England for 23yrs i don't like Zanu but what i observed in English politics they can do what ever they do during campaigns but after elections who ever win or not they come together and build there nation thats what us Zim should do put politics aside and come together and build our nation who ever the leader who is there at the time lets support them thats the only thing that can make us to come together
Why do people forget that the economy catered for very few people. i.e whites only.no electricity.no apartheid was bad.inspections.mums not allowed in towns..separations for months. I was a teen my experience is very different.Zengeza yakauya nezuro iyo.tinoziva vana Chirambahuyo
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Young Zimbabweans the ball is in your court, we Rhodesian era Zimbabweans are counting on you to revive the country.
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for this reaction. I saw this video almost 2 weeks ago and the unmelaneted were having a party and i tried to push back as much as i could so im glad you used your platform to react.
They had a party in the comment section.
They often mix truth with error.
Me too, I'm glad someone with platform took the courage to refute the lies. Change the narrative. We cannot allow outsiders to drive the narrative when we can drive our own narrative
Watched the documentary it was a mockery looking for failures than successes. And bitter Rhodesians poured in with negative comments but Zimbabwe was under sanctions for 20 years as punishment for land acquiresition of course infrastructure is poorly. Right now they wish to come back coz that was the best time of their lives having met many in UK, Australia and other parts regretting why they left. Zimbabwe sanctions were used as an examplery deterent to other African countries who wish to take back land. Having luxuries not owning land and means of production amounts to colonisation
We also felt there was a lot of mockery in it, but thought maybe it was just us. That’s why we’ve opened up the floor for to hear from others.
There was a need for land reform no question , in a transparent and legal manner…. It was a violent land grab , White farmers and the few Black commercial farmers had their farms seized- Farmers and their black farm workers were murdered , raped and tortured as retribution for supporting the new and viable MDC political party in that referendum Mugabe lost….Zimbabwe became a lawless country - it was horrendous and life threatening being a supporter of the MDC … it was the violence and human rights abuse that prompted Sanctions on Zimbabwe.
You talk about successes, can you talk about them so that we can equally have the positives spoken about. I presume there hasn't been none that's why you are just blowing wind.
Thanx so much for such a topic. Loved da interaction at da end of clip btn Mr an Mrs Megabush❤. Kwame
Absolutely welcome. We hoped it wasn’t too serious and complex a topic that you all wouldn’t like it. Happy for your interaction and feedback too!
@@TheMegabushFamily I luv dis topic very much n continues to self educate in dis area. Living in da west n often facing subtle racism makes one want to know more abt my black self n find reasons y those who claim to b ''superior'' will do everything to suppress my being n my history. Bless u guys n plz keep similar topics coming. Forgive my txt language.
The government in Zimbabwe needs to do a lot of work to decolonise the minds of its citizens through education and a decolonised curriculum.
The only person talking sense is this whole video is that sister who clearly knows what she's talking about. The sister who mentioned Gambia and the Road to Damascus.
That brother is truly so colonised mentally that it's embarrassing.
White is not right.
The sister is too angry and not accepting fair and true points made by the brother. I don’t understand this ‘Decolonised’ mind of which you speak. What is it? That ‘white is not right, and black is always right despite clear failings’?
That’s not ‘decolonisation’ that’s pride and wilful ignorance.
They’re actually siblings from the same household. But with different perspectives on the matter. Yet, their conclusion on the way forward are the same. We hope this can also be the outcome in greater Zimbabwe, we can have different perspectives of the past, but in the end all do the right thing now and work together for the greater good of all Zimbabweans.
I agree 💯 percent. His mind is colonised and its embarrassing.🔥
@TheMegabushFamily Thank you ❤️ Respectfully, when it comes to colonisation, its harms, and its lasting impact, we cannot say, "let's respect both perspectives." This is because the colonised do not have the power to bring their perspective to the centre of the discourse. The coloniser, on the other hand, has had centuries of power to exercise psychological and intellectual violence, imposing their narrative and perspective on both the colonised and those observing from the outside.
The first country in Africa to gain independence from colonialism is only a few decades old. How can we compare that with the centuries of colonial violence inflicted on that country and others across the continent?
People like that brother, who look admiringly at countries like the USA, UK, and EU, are ignorant of the fact that these nations reached their current status through slavery, colonial genocide, and theft. Are we just going to pretend that didn't happen-that they didn’t commit crimes against humanity to get rich and "organised"?
Are we going to ignore that their "skills of organisation" developed out of their need to keep meticulous records of the people they enslaved and the wealth they stole from the "colonies"?
Are we going to ignore that the first Holocaust in human history happened just next door to Zimbabwe in Namibia where Germany carried out experiments on the Herero people? That so-called German "science" and "rationality" developed out of genocide against Black Africans?
Anyone who says "we've done worst things against our own people" exposes that he's illiterate about the history of Africa and Africans.
All violence is bad but context also matters.
African countries are doing their best without colonising anyone, even while their resources are still being stolen by the so-called "civilised" world.
Anyone who has lived in the USA, UK, or other parts of Europe knows that people in Africa are better off. We take many things for granted in Africa. The UK, in particular, is a sh*thole. Zimbabweans who move to the UK often end up regretting leaving their country.
Many African and Jamaican families in the UK are sending their UK-born children to attend schools in Jamaica and their African homelands because UK education and schools are dysfunctional. There are many British, American, and European children in Zimbabwean boarding schools right now.
All that glitters is not gold.
Africans should stop believing the colonial myths and lies that white people are organised and that white countries are better. You’d be shocked by the level of dysfunction, poverty, illiteracy, and lack of education in countries like the USA, Australia, the UK, and other EU nations. All that glitters is not gold.
The only thing they have truly excelled at is marketing themselves and their countries through PR because they understood it would boost investment if they only told the world rosy stories about their nations.
Meanwhile, they encourage Africans to focus on demonising themselves and their own countries, to the point where people are afraid of visiting or investing.
@Faridbuza We read every last word of your comment, as a Jamaican with a heritage of slavery, what you’ve said totally resonates with me.
Also, I 100% agree about the education and schooling point too.
Thanks for sharing!
-Debs
Am proud of being a black Zimbabwean for ever being a Zimbabwean than to be under ruthless rhodesia GOVERNMENT
Megabush family, I say this with the utmost respect. Let’s not gloss over the black on black oppression we are currently experiencing at the hands of ZanuPF. To be oppressed by your own people is another kind of pain. Majority of people in Zimbabwe are suffering. We are under a dictatorship. The liberation struggle has started only benefitted an handful of people. We are not free in Zimbabwe! NOT YET UHURU.
Yes the gentleman in the interview also raised this point. I think he really tried to address both sides.
Hallelujah !! Oppression under colonial rule and nothing has changed to this day.
Look what the Babylonian, did to Africa's beautiful Africa. Mama Africa is crying for her children. God in Heaven hears her cry, and will give her victory, one day soon she will be victorious. I remember as a child, this song. It goes like this. Why the color of my skin is said to be an awful sin, why Lord. But as I get older, I realize that God sees and knows everything.
It's always the damn audacity for me
Very good reaction, thanks to the MegaBush Family.
What is the definition of civilization to start with if it’s not the way a society is organized just to simplify and for what we know every society in Africa were very well organized, do I have to give exemples? Ghana empire, Luba empire and all the royalties in Africa so Africa were civilized way before bat minded people stepped their foot there; so nobody brought civilization to Africa but they came to destroy and disorganize everything because they couldn’t stand the beauty of Africa’s diversity, culture, language, climate, resources and mostly the bravery and the beauty of its people!! Doing thing differently doesn’t mean people were not civilized!! They brought nothing apart of destruction. Way before them there, people were happy, leaving in perfect harmony with their environment, not selfish, contented!
Geopolitics killed Rhodesia, nothing else. It won’t come back because the people and conditions that created it are gone. Zimbabwe can never be an example of black and white people moving forward together . The whites were forced out so that’s not possible. Zimbabwe can overcome in spite of squandering Rhodesia’s wealth. Sanctions should be lifted because it’s just holding people back.
It’s blatantly obvious the same conditions are still there unless you’ve buried your head in the sand like most….there was oppression during the colonial era and there’s still oppression to this day - only difference black Zimbabweans are being oppressed by their so called liberators…to the point where folks are too frightened to speak their minds here incase the CIO have caught wind.
Geopolitics was an immediate/secondary cause not the primary one. They were asked to grant majority rule at a time when they could have owned the narrative and the process and emerge as heroes.
If you watch the documentaries from the 70s you can see that the blacks just wanted basic human dignity and access to the same rights. But well, as the common belief of white people was that Blacks were below them or as good as cattle, they could not share power.
Zimbabwe is a miracle and God's smile on earth.
Yes, it is true that we used to have milk delivered to our doors, but that had nothing to do with the country being better under colonial genocide.
There is a reason why it is only a few people😢 in former settler colonies like Zimbabwe and South Africa who make ignorant comments such as "things were better under colonialism because we had x, y, z."
For those reading this who may not know what a "settler colony" is, it refers to a territory where colonisers moved large numbers of their own people to resettle as settlers. Their aim was to recreate a little England or France in the "colony." They did this in parts of the world they considered valuable in terms of material wealth. The purpose of the white populations sent there was to safeguard this wealth for the benefit of their countries of origin, essentially to steal and protect the wealth for Britain, France, etc.
In order to keep those white populations happy so that they wouldn't feel the need to return to Britain, Germany, Belgium, or France, the colonising countries tried to recreate versions of Europe and idealised European lifestyles that they would never have or could afford in their original European countries.
If you search online archives, you will see how the British government advertised in newspapers, encouraging poor young white men to "migrate" to "Rhodesia" on behalf of the empire, with promises of adventure and lives of luxury under the African sun.
The "nice things" people now speak of as being better under colonialism were never built for them or with noble intentions; they were built only for white settlers using African wealth and with the aim of stealing that wealth for the colonisers. Even the hospitals were not built for Black people.
To keep the colonised populations pacified and subservient, they were given small conveniences like milk deliveries to their doors. This was done to increase productivity for the colonisers. It's similar to the history of "sick leave," which started during slavery on plantations to keep enslaved people "fit" and "healthy" enough to work. It was not because the slavers were kind or champions of well-being.
Another point to consider is that during colonialism, the country's resources benefited only a small white population. After independence, those same resources had to benefit the entire population. In Zimbabwe’s case, Black people inherited not only a sabotaged economy but also a small portion of resources that were expected to serve the majority Black population. Until the Land Reform and indigenisation laws were introduced, the resources remained in the hands of a small white elite. This meant that there were no more milk deliveries because the Black government had to build thousands of new schools for the millions of Black children who had been denied education under colonialism. More affordable homes also had to be built for Black people-all with limited resources.
Then ESAP (Economic Structural Adjustment Programme) was enforced on Zimbabwe by the IMF in the 1980s and 1990s, long before the Land Reform and sanctions, the same way it was imposed Caribbean countries and other parts of the Global South.
There were also massive droughts in the 1980s and 1990s in a country that relies heavily on agriculture.
It is due to God's grace and the resilience of Zimbabweans that the country survived all that, even before the sanctions became an issue.
Zimbabwe never had the chance to fully realise its potential after independence. Before and soon after independence, it was sabotaged by Ian Smith's agents and the Apartheid regime of South Africa. Zimbabwe had just emerged from what is described as "Africa's Vietnam War"-the Zimbabwe War of Chimurenga, one of the longest and most brutal wars in modern history. Yet Zimbabwe limped on, albeit with challenges.
Yes, corruption also happened in Zimbabwe, and it still happens, but which country on earth is not corrupt? There’s a reason why the UK has repeatedly been described as one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The level of corruption in countries like the UK and the USA would embarrass even the most corrupt governments in Africa.
The difference between African countries and Western countries is that in Africa, we openly talk about corruption because we recognise it when we see it. In the UK and other countries, corruption is so large-scale and normalised that people don't even bother talking or doing anything about it. They have also been convinced by their governments that corruption is something that only happens in brown and Black countries.
The difference is also that in the West, you can get away with corruption, while in most African countries, you can be arrested if discovered.
Your spoke nothing but facts
Agreed
There was oppression in Rhodesia but no genocide , ever - the only genocide that occurred was Mugabe’s handy work in Matabeleland in the mid 80’s . Gukurahundi massacres.
@Faridbuza, this was such a detailed analysis. Thank you for sharing your view in such a succinct manner.
@gavinmcleod7446 Colonialism is always genocide, wherever and whenever it happens. Not just in terms of dead bodies but also systems of knowledge and cultural genocide, the erasure of a people's identities, languages, etc.
The "reserves" which were created by the British in Zimbabwe by displacing and uprooting Black populations from their original lands and place them in "reserves," was an act of genocide.
Well from the content shared and the context i feel we need more discussions like these were we simply point out the flaws and elements we need addressed. The whole point is whats next. Rhodesia in all its context was oppressive and only benefitted a few. Where even the rich black folk were really still under oppression. To then compare it with Zimbabwe i think is wrong. As we have very different backgrounds and ideas. How ever this was a very good starting point! Just watched the video that guy is one sided. Focused on his own opinion
So happy you went and watched the video. We’re also happy you understood the context and realized the whole point is what next? Him going back and glorifying colonization helps no one.
Clinics in the location provided better service than what you get in current hospitals. Rail service . Tryes made in zim locals could afford to go to national parks. The truth of the matter life was better.
Thank you people pretending like things are better now
As a Zimbabwean who has grown up overseas, I have to say I am disappointed with the criticisms I hear about Rhodesia from my parents & fellow Zimbabweans.
The reason being that the only negatives I hear are “They were unkind, we weren’t allowed in certain stores, or in certain neighbourhoods” - is that it? I’m sorry, but we have to realise that other peoples have been enslaved, or experienced genocide or daily lynchings. Australian aborigines are now only 3% of Australia. The indigenous South Americans were basically completely wiped out in the Caribbean and South America.
I’m not defending Rhodesians, but as long as we had adequate food, water, shelter and education - eventually we would’ve been able to slowly but surely ascend. It didn’t need to be torn down just because they “didn’t like us” - that’s just not a strong enough reason, why do we want to be liked so much?
If we weren’t allowed in a white store, why not just go to a black one? The issue is we wanted what they had, rather than just having sufficient resources to build ourselves up!
I was not there when it was Rhodes’ personally inscribed territory…but l know some simple life truths.
If you mistreat a people, eventually those people will resent you enough to retaliate. Roadies should have treated people… like people. You know,… like how in the 80s and early 90s post independence Black people took them to be equals (hence many of them stayed…comfortably so too at that).
Pets get fed by their masters that's great. Also, Zimbabwe took a downturn when the IMF imposed austerity measures. Zimbabwe had no money to grow so foolishly borrowed a loan. There is a Vijay Prashad who explains how the west manipulates the financial system in their favor. They do this to the Global South how they liberalize the economy so they can take advantage of others. Racism isn't just whipping people it's also institutions to prevent proper self-reliance.
Yes, when we spoke to people to hear their feedback on the video we’re reacting to, we realized people’s views were mixed, some would agree with you, others say their experience was just too bad.
So it’s good for us to really hear each other (black, white everyone in between), acknowledge our various wrongs and in the end conclude on the best way forward).
@@TheMegabushFamilyThank you for your response! I am sometimes frustrated seeing some of the reactions of people back home - I just don’t feel we have the full picture, I really hope we can leave racial politics behind and build a unified country that deals with ‘good vs. evil’ not ‘black vs. white’.
You’re welcome. Yes, good vs. evil should be the basis.
But truth be told though Rhodesian life was stress free and clean despite segregations.
Segregation and stress free don't go together pal...
It’s only k*ffirs who’re happy about being segregated by their white masters
Thank You for this documentation. We are in a paradox and all sides that have culminated into this country must be heard.
Ordinary Zimbabweans have not really broadcasted our thoughts in this format and l believe ownership of our missteps and strengths must be the seeds to a better future.
I am confident that a lot of the White community that are still here also are equally passionate about our nation.
Hopefully we’ll take only positive aspects of our history and build a better future multicultural Zimbabwe.
Thank You Megabush Family. I will promptly recommend this video to other platforms.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for the positive conclusion you’ve come to from hearing the discussion. ❤️
@@TheMegabushFamily Livity and Hunhu/Ubuntu 🇯🇲🫶🏾🇿🇼
It was oppression clothed in trickery. In order to get an answer you have to ask ‘Why’.
The goal should always be to Run Your Own Race!
Great discussion. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾♥️🙏🏾
Thank you for partaking.
You’re welcome.
No he was few privileged..he is talking about stupid milk
Great content Megabush!! You earn my subscription today.
Wow! Thank you! It’s so nice to see the word “earned”. So appreciated 🙏🏾
I truly appreciate the work you put into this video.
Thank you so much for acknowledging and appreciating this. 🙏🏾❤️ #Respect
Hi, had to appreciate the efforts you put in making your videos. The high quality editing and good research. Makes me wonder if you have a film and editing background since I know you're a doctor. Anyways, keep it up
😅😅😅 no film/editing background whatsoever, just like creating/art.
Thanks so much for appreciating our work. We do try to produce content we’d like ourselves. It does take a lot of effort so we’re happy when our viewers never take it for granted. Thank you🙏🏾
People,l also am a rhodesian..it was really really hard ....for us in the rural areas we were moved to mwenezi in the mountains ..please understand ....In the rural we had no rural hospital...no clinic
This young man is irritating me guys 😮😮
😅 we want the discussion….do share your take
You can't be led by olden and women and expect hope, young Zimbabweans need to take their country back from thieves pretending to be liberation heroes
You can never manage anyone that comes into your lands because they are crafty
And you will always be check mated by them
Ever heard of USA?
Their names must remain in books not on our street names
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Why is the thumbnail using the image of an East African woman from the Maasai community?
😅 thanks for your observation.
No available stock photo of Zimbabweans in traditional wear to convey “the indigenous” appearance we want for the theme of the reaction. So we decided to go instead with anything that would convey “Africa”, since really, the vide we’re reacting to made references to the entire continent.
Hope that makes sense to you.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheMegabushFamily okay got it. Actually now that you say it I don’t think I’ve seen a photo of a woman in indigenous Zimbabwean dress, I’d love to.
We still need boarders, we talk different languages, we’re not the same, zim is for zimbos, don’t come here start talking abjut free boarder..we need boarders
Zimbabwe belongs to all African people. End of story.
In the current civilization and systems, yes, borders now have utility.
I like the balance in the video but we have to be honest with ourselves that the trauma of colonisation will leave with us for the rest of our lives.We have made our own mistakes and we do have beautiful stories to tell
We certainly do have beautiful stories to tell. And thank you for seeing the balance 🙏🏾❤️
The way forward is to work hard, renovate and rebuild Zimbabwe. First, fix the currency crisis.
I lived in Rhodesian days. I can relate.
Compared to what she was, it’s fair to describe Zim as ruins.
Clearly, the leadership has not maintained/ upgraded the infrastructure.The railways, road networks, hospitals, etc are a terrible state. All a result of greed, corruption,and misplaced priorities. Truth hurts.
The description is fair. The delivery and style of the video was not. If you’ve watched it in full let us know.
@@TheMegabushFamily
In fairness, I didn’t bother watching it in full because I expected racist undertones.
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This young boy is speaking from a privileged chair
Tell us about it….
Maybe he was one of those foreigners who came from Malawi, Mozambique etc. Because for most real Zimbabweans were in rural areas and they were suffering
@@GChings you are right this guy could be Malawian
He did say his dad was an early freedom activist, so I believe he’s Zimbabwean.
Zimbabwe woyeee❤🇿🇼
Thank you Megabush family for this episode. I was very hurt watching that video from that boy who lied big tym
You’re welcome! We thought it really needed discussion because mmmm
But they erased our history and made us forget our history so that by the next generation- there were no memories of many aspects of our way old way of life.
They even gave us new names
So I do not agree with the brother he has so much compassion for the British but how about the remains of Nehanda in the museum
Profound. Thank you MegaBush Family. Behind you all the way. Big up!
Thank you for watching 🙏🏾
I agree with everything this man says his very wise nd build nit a Divider. Th only thing I m confused about Are the Coloureds not Zimbabweans were they not born there is Zimbabwe nit the only country they know do they nit hv Black Mothers, fathers Why are they never included or mentioned or are they paying for sins they had no controle of. Coloureds in those days we're also controlled they had to live where they put to live nd much more. However X for this vlogg it was interesting. The day we all hv open minds is when we will live in peace.
Thanks so much for your feedback. Open minds yes.
In Jamaica, “coloured” people are not viewed separately (especially since so many Jamaicans have a “colourful” family). I was really surprised to see that in Zim they’re viewed as a separate group alltogether.
@TheMegabushFamily I think it's because most of them where classified to be close to whites and there were no close interactions with the blacks. While there was no strife between the two groups however they had less in common in terms of language(native), culture etc and most never tried to assimilate
Ah thanks for the feedback @michaelmaps
@@TheMegabushFamily you are welcome
Southern Rhodesia and Northern Rhodesia , South Africa , South West Africa/ Namibia - all had segregation laws - the Coloured communities were multi generational in those countries and had their own suburbs and schools…they co existed and inter married within their own communities - many of these women had children with Whites - eg British , Italian , Portuguese, Jewish , Greek and even Indians - this was Taboo given the racial laws at the time ….a very diverse community - The coloured community is very diverse and only English speaking - they can’t and dont speak the indigenous African languages - Never the less a very diverse community and still very close knit - I can only speak for a Zim.
I hate hate that word. Why are you talking about us? why are there? Why are bothered? much fan much. Thank you MEGA BUSH FAMILY.
So much revisionist history when it comes to colonial Africa.
Looks like a sad attempt of rewriting history.
Great upload!!
Thanks for watching!
I STILL REMENBER A BIT OF RHODESIA, I THINK IT WAS BETTER
Many people have said this.
What do you think about what the brother and sister had to say in the response video?
Even now i know people who are growing tomatoes and are living well right now they is money in Zim if you are clever enough
Advance civilization or advance weaponry? Presently, in so called developed countries, people are choosing to live the simpler life. To them this is a richer way to spend their life. Why do you think the African forefathers way was inferior?
Racism will always exist even in developed countries like USA UK etc. Life in Rhodesia we put milk bottles outside in location the milkman would leave milk. There was cleaning of streets repairing of roads . We had playgroundsas kids . Libraries
Definitely get this. It seems everyone agrees the public infrastructure and services were much better in Rhodesia. But like you’ve said here, there’s racism everywhere. So the question is, if everywhere else in the world there’s racism, where then do we get to call “ours”? To call home”?
British shud acknowledge our oneness not to try and forge a lie what have they done to build Zimbabwe themselves?? Who's stopped them from making a contribution in 44 years?? Doing nothing hiding on a Visa for 44 years nonsense, come back home
We have our problems here in Zimbabwe but Rhodesia was even worse. I wouldn’t want to be living under that government
Thank you for doing this important decolonial documentary. God bless you, and God bless 🇿🇼 🇯🇲
Your welcome. We do feel the response was important to give a full and fair picture of the matter.
zizi kurungwa munyu, hanzi ndave hukuwo.if economics is about cost efficiency to maximise profits. Mud huts remain the most profitable and eco friendly households.Rusero till date is the safest and fastest air transportation.Rhodesia brought TB Cancer Diabetes to our people , plastics chemicals rats to our soil , industrial and car smoke to our air.All this concrete and steel development we praise and work for today will be destroyed for a greener world in the future.
Mmmh interesting take…
Umm gogo travelled
Be careful about politics in Zim........ It may ruin some things and your good intent...... be weary of politics.😊
We get where you’re coming from.
Please note this is not a video on politics, it’s a reaction video to someone else’s presentation of history.
Have you watched the video we’re responding to?
Yes I saw it. Your intent was good and clean but maybe not everyone will see it clearly. Politics is a polarising thing in Zim....... tread carefully. anyway, all the best 👍.
Well noted 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Honestly this is not politics but an honest civil discussion and they did it a great way by opening the floor for a healthy debate. They were impartial and even a blind man will be able to see that their intent was not malicious. I commend them for not being cowards. Sometimes we need voices like them and while it's not their territory its great for them to do so when there is a need and void in terms of the necessary push back
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It's okay man. I respect your view though we may differ.
Ur good people but this subject is way too complex for you to blog on . Leave ir please.
We actually felt the same that it’s indeed too complex.
But we hoped that if you watch Brittanica1’s video then ours, it would at least trigger a conversation/discussion in the comments section which addresses all the complexities of the matter-and we talk about it together.
What we both unapologetically say NO to is the idea that colonization was good! Which is this guy’s angle.
Please watch this
th-cam.com/video/vAze9oAjLbU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QplcZINeJgxWZ_kL
You can then also watch the full interview if you’d like.
No. They did well by addressing this
I think you completely misunderstood and misinterpreted his video. Sure he has a narrative and a bit of an agenda with highlighting the negatives, but nothing that he says in the video is wrong. Over 40 years of independence and hardly anything to show for it while the whole country is slowly deteriorating due to corruption and mismanagement. You can't argue with that, it's pure facts that the country has gone to sh*t. We've allowed megalomaniacs and incompetence to completely run our once prosperous nation into the ground.
How do you expect a country to progress on heavy sanctions to grow its economy. They made sure nothing works in zimbabwe. They want zimbabwe to fail so other countries don't try to get their lands back, firing to face the same consequences as Zimbabwe. They want you to believe only them can do the right thing and it is working because we African have no self worth, and it is sad
Thanks for all your contributions to the discussion. We appreciate the conversation so much, and it’s good when we can discuss all the facts without animosity but just to understand experiences, acknowledge facts, and hopefully agree on the way forward, not to be divisive. We can only truly move forward and achieve prosperity if we come together.
@@innocentemessy You're delusional, the sanctions are in place because the government is a single party state incapable of holding free and fair democratic elections. They're warranted because Zanu's actions deserve sanctions out of principle. The country doesn't even have a functioning currency and you're talking about export sanctions... lol. Also I didn't say anything about race, there are loads of capable indigenous Zimbabweans who are able to run the country effectively. The problem is they don't get it into power and we silently watch as our futures and our children's futures get looted.
This is a solid response to a dreadful video that actually grew my sense of national pride. It's those racist sentiments that make me appreciate being a Zimbabwean.
Thank you for appreciating that it’s a fair response. We wanted to show all sides of story as much as possible.
The naivety of the gentleman who claims Rhodesia was good is mindblowing.