Joost: 89 games, 38 tries. Try scoring ratio of 42%. Show me another scrumhalf with those stats. Gerber: 24 tests. 19 tries. Try scoring ratio of ≈80%. Show me ANYONE who has that stat. And if you can find one, I bet you that they weren't playing outside centre.
No outside centre in the game of rugby is close to 80% . To put things in context. At his peak. on a rugby field. I dont know who was. Quicker Habanna or Danie Gerber. Would have close over a lenght of a rugby field
I have seen Du Pont, Gareth Edwards (yes him too) and Du Preez in action and for me Joost Van Der Westhuizen would be my pick as the best (to date) that the world has seen. He is the stand out Springbok and epitomized courage, creativity and skill.
I have to say as a non-expert from the US it seems there is maybe recency bias? All players seem to be from the last 20 years on the list, and I know South Africa has a long history in the game, and they must have had all timers in the old days as well... But again I could very well be wrong, and it's not like I can question it or give you an alternative name for any of the chosen players 🤣
Fair point, well made. I largely agree with the list, but the most glaring omission is Danie Gerber (1988-1992) who should have taken outside center. Joost van de Westhuzen (1993-2003) could just as easily have taken the scrumhalf position. I'm also not convinced by Siya Kolisi's inclusion (although his captaincy is the most significant). Finally, I believe that our current fullback, Damian Willemse, is more talented than Andre Joubert.
@@stephenpaul7499Fourie vs Joost could go either way. Daniel Gerber only played 24 games, so it’s tough to include him. Fullback has to be Percy Montgomery, Willie would be the second choice.
@jameswyatt4443 yes Percy doesn't get enough credit. Amazing goal kicker too. Probably just below morne steyn in that regard. I didn't know that fact about danie Gerber, interesting.
The problem is during apartheid witch was around 30 years ago there were sactions againt south africa so we couldn't play against the best internatinal teams thus the level of competition was not that high in that time plus modern rugby players are on average more skilled and better athletes
More like the Wolrd Cup era best XV and not all time. That being said , i agree a lot with this selection for the last 30 years or so. I would only change Brussow at 6, as a fetcher specialist (the best I have seen), Morné Steyn at 10 (the best kicker I have seen) and Jacque Fourie at 13. Might as well be Montgomery at 15, but I like Joubert there also. As for the best XV all time, i dont know much, since i have seen almost nothing before mid nineties, but i guess guys like D. Gerber and N. Botha, to name a few, should at least be in the conversation. Probably many more, but i cannot talk much, since I have missed the first 70 years of Sprngboks rugby.
It's difficult to imagine a Springbok greatest team without Frans Steyn included, also Schalk Burger was an absolute legend at 6, but It is very difficult to pick only 15 when there are SO many greats to choose from.
I had the majority spot on with you mate except for the following. 1 Tendai Beast 6 Schalk burger 8 pierre spies 10 Morne Steyn 13 jaque Fourie 15 Percy Montgomery
Have to disagree on Fourie at 13. Not that I think Fourie wasn't exceptional, mind you. It's just that he wasn't in the same ballpark as arguably the greatest outside centre of all time (of all teams, not just Springboks), Danie Gerber.
I think this author only started watching rugby a few years ago. In my opinion the Boks from the eighties were the best era. Naas, Carel du Plessis, Ray Mordt and Danie Gerber will make my honour list. I would agree that Habana is probably better but only marginally so. Cheslin is amazing but Mordt was such a beast
It was a different game. All these players would SMOKE an 80s team just because of the size, strength and speed. Need a PRE 95 side. Jouba for me is awesome, but he isn't better than Willie Le Roux or Willemse. His defence wasn't great
Excellent agree 100% with all of your picks. I have read so many Greatest 15's Rugby Buzz is the greatest. As a Kiwi I live Rugby maybe I would only replace Fitzpatrick - with a South African say Malcom or Bismarck. Most best 15's pick Fitzpatrick but as an ex Hooker i agree with your Woods.
haha this sounds like I wrote it! Kind words thank you! It's very tough to choose just XV greats! Glad you thought I did a good job! :) More to come...
@@rugbybuzz Danie Gerber not making a greatest of all time is ludicrous. Unfortunately, he was playing during isolation so very limited international games, but I think he is widely considered not only the best center of SA but one of the best to ever play the game. Joost instead of Fourie Du Preez, Naas Botha (Arguable - Probable the best kicker in the game ever) instead of Handre Pollard. Wings, with the likes of Ray Mord, Carel Duplessis. Forwards....I don't know, lots of disputes over there. Frik Du Preez was a lock that kicked a drop goal, kicked a conversion and scored a try in the same match. None of your locks could come close to claiming that. Best in last 20 year...still debatable, but more accurate. Best of all time....hmmm not.
Great team but I'd have Percy Montgomery at 15 and Joost at 9 . I know people may say there is recency bias here but the fact is most of your selections are double world cup winners (which happened recently) so it's hard to disagree with this list. This team would destroy every team that has ever existed!
Actual best xv!!! 1-15..Du Randt Uli Schmidt Marais Etzebeth Frik Du Prez Rob Louw Juan Smith Vermeulen Joost ( no surname necessary!) Naas Botha Carel DuPlessis Gainsford Gerber Habana and then either Montgomery or Joubert...tie! Thank you 😁
This list is impossible to choose and to please everyone with your choice too! Every player you named is an amazing player and there are so many more amazing players to choose from in the same positions. At the end of the day it comes day to who the supporter favours. A great list of players who in their peaks will win a WRC hands down!!!
Have heard about Naas, Uli, Bakkies, Joost, Frik du Preez , Danie Gerber, and the list keep going on....... Oh and Siya is probably nr 48 behind Schalk, Francois, Ruben Kruger and many more graets
Danie Gerber, Joost van der Westhuisen, Schalk Berger, Jon Smit. All of them deserve a place in front of those chosen instead. Danie Gerber was the best centre in the world, he just couldn't play internationals until the end of his career.
I agree with all the picks except 6. Schalk Burger and 13. Jaques Fourie. Although, in the squad should be Frans Steyn, he could play nearly every position in the back line, and not to mention his massive kicks.
Nice team. All but 15 is correct. Should, for sure be Frans Steyn, He's the best ever Bok. 2 world cups, 2 Lions series, French championships and the list goes on. He had flair and could kick better than most of the GOATs.
Honestly I've heard Danie Gerber as the best player all my life but I don't know for sure just old people and our dads saying he was the best of all time.
For me, I'd have Schalk for Siya and Danie Gerber for Am. I don't agree with some calls for Joost to be ahead of Fourie. As a game general, Fourie was phenomenal.
Schalk Burger -Rob Louw & many more flankers better than Siya, Garry Teichman as well as favourite Captain of all time, lead by example -Thor close 2nd, Joost vd Westhuizen -Fourie du Preez close 2nd, Danie Gerber - Jacque Fourie close 2nd, At 15 close 2nd would be Percy. All these close 2nds will be on bench with Bismark, Bakkies and Ox
@@tertiusgous8348 hahaha I need to do an updated current world XV video soon…not sure who would be in that team but it’ll be stacked with Boks most likely 😛
Where is 6 Jan Ellis Heinrich Brissouw, Rob Louw, To San Strauss 8 Morne du Plessis 9 Dawie De Villiers, Robert du Preez. 10 Naas Botha. 11 Ray Mordt 12 & 13 Daniel Gerber, Mannetjies Roux, Jacques Fourie, ext. 14 Carel du Plessis 15 H O de Villiers Gysie Pienaar,. Percy Montgomery and many more what you choose
I agree with the team, except for 13 and 6 where I believe Danie Gerber would have been a better choice - he has incredible speed of a wing and the power of Lomu to push through tackles. At his best Am is brilliant but Jesse Kriel may have the edge right now. And let’s not forget Marius Joubert and Jacques Fourie, both brilliat players. No. 6 is Schalk Burger where he won IRB breakthrough - and IRB Player of the Year. Only choice.
Joost van der Westhuizen must be the best scrumhalf SA ever produced. I agree with another commenter that Danie Gerber was the best outside centre in the world, never mind SA. There were many greats. Let’s not forget Uli Schmidt at hooker, Karel du Plessis at wing. And Naas Botha, why does he not even get a mention? He was the greatest flyhalf the world ever had. Subjective, I know, and also depends on your age, I guess. Go Bokke!
Based on performance on the field. Schalk burger should be at 6. Infact if we gna be honest, there are a few ahead of kolisi, based on actual rugby. As far as leadership. He is second to non obviously. Likewise with John smit and Frans Pienaar, good/great leaders, not neccasary best players in their respective positions. Each to their own, but that's pretty obvious.
The enforcer Bakkies John Philip Botha will forever be the best lock. Joost van der Westhuizen is easily the best-ever scrum half. Nass Botha or Henry Honiball at Flyhalf beats Pollard any day. Morne Steyn/Percy Montgomery. Pierre Spies at NO.8
Anyone you think we've missed? 👇
Maybe Schalk Burger, but Siya is just as good
@@sl1cc1x40 Jacque Fourie @13 not that I have anything against Am(I"m Black)
Beastttttt😮😮 tendai
Jip Jacques Fourie or Danie Gerber
Burger
Schalk and Joost for me.
6.Schalk Burger, 13 Danie Gerber
10. Naas Botha
9. Joost
Now we talking!!!!!!!
Joost: 89 games, 38 tries. Try scoring ratio of 42%. Show me another scrumhalf with those stats.
Gerber: 24 tests. 19 tries. Try scoring ratio of ≈80%. Show me ANYONE who has that stat. And if you can find one, I bet you that they weren't playing outside centre.
No outside centre in the game of rugby is close to 80% . To put things in context. At his peak. on a rugby field. I dont know who was. Quicker Habanna or Danie Gerber. Would have close over a lenght of a rugby field
1. Os du Rand
2. Bismark du Plessis
3. Balie Swart
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Victor Matfield
6. Schalk Burger
7. PSDT
8. Duane Vermeulen
9. Fourie du Preez
10. Handre Pollard
11. Brian Habana
12. Jean de Villiers
13. Danie Gerber
14. Ray Mordt
15. Andre Joubert
Bomb Squad:
Ox Nche
Beast Ntawarira
Malcolm Marx
Bakkies Botha
Joost vd Westhuizen
Kwagga Smit
Percy Montgomery
Honourable Mentions:
Uli Schmit
Manneties Roux
John Smit
Jacques Fourie
James Small
Kurtly Arendse
Naas Botha
Gerber at 13 .he was our greatest ever player along with psdt
Ah yes I've gotten his name a lot in the comments and rightly so...What's your XV?
15 Joubert
14 Kolbe
13 Gerber
12de Villiers
11 Habanaor carel du plessis
10 pollard
9 du preez
8 spies before he started getting ill
7 psdt
6 burger
5 Hatfield
4 etsebeth
3 malherbe
2 Marx
1 os
@@donovanmostert6692 great list!
@@donovanmostert6692 - Good side but I'd have Naas Botha at 10.
Siya at nr 6? Sorry bro, he is not better than Schalk Burger
Or Rueben Kruger, or Rassie. A can think of a few ahead of Siya. But I’d rather Suya over Francois. Both great leaders though
Schalk Burger it is.
Francois Pienaar.
Heinrich Brussouw, so good, the rules were changed because of him 🙂
Disagree. Siya edges it due to leadership qualities and how he compliments the other chosen backrowers who are irreplaceable
AB fan. For me, 6. Schalk Burger 8. Pierre Spies,
9 Joost VDVH 10 Nas Botha 13 Danie Gerber.
Danie Gerber is the GOAT of bok backs
Great list!
@@ShiNooBi1986 you can add Ray Mordt and Carel du Plessis
Great list... But not the ruck inspector and wit broekie naas.
Absolutely correct
Danie Gerber miles ahead in my book.
Not even close…
@@grantadams105 Fair enough mate! Hard to argue really...would he make your all time world XV? Asking for a mate...
I have seen Du Pont, Gareth Edwards (yes him too) and Du Preez in action and for me Joost Van Der Westhuizen would be my pick as the best (to date) that the world has seen. He is the stand out Springbok and epitomized courage, creativity and skill.
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@@rugbybuzz
Absolutely correct
Game changer
And Joost definately our best scrumhalf. After Du Pont Gareth Edwards Joost the greatest scrumhalf ever of all nations
I have to say as a non-expert from the US it seems there is maybe recency bias? All players seem to be from the last 20 years on the list, and I know South Africa has a long history in the game, and they must have had all timers in the old days as well... But again I could very well be wrong, and it's not like I can question it or give you an alternative name for any of the chosen players 🤣
Fair point, well made. I largely agree with the list, but the most glaring omission is Danie Gerber (1988-1992) who should have taken outside center. Joost van de Westhuzen (1993-2003) could just as easily have taken the scrumhalf position. I'm also not convinced by Siya Kolisi's inclusion (although his captaincy is the most significant). Finally, I believe that our current fullback, Damian Willemse, is more talented than Andre Joubert.
No way. Anything before 20 years ago is nowhere the modern level.
@@stephenpaul7499Fourie vs Joost could go either way. Daniel Gerber only played 24 games, so it’s tough to include him. Fullback has to be Percy Montgomery, Willie would be the second choice.
@jameswyatt4443 yes Percy doesn't get enough credit. Amazing goal kicker too. Probably just below morne steyn in that regard. I didn't know that fact about danie Gerber, interesting.
The problem is during apartheid witch was around 30 years ago there were sactions againt south africa so we couldn't play against the best internatinal teams thus the level of competition was not that high in that time plus modern rugby players are on average more skilled and better athletes
No Kwagga smith is crazy🤯
Hard to leave him out but just too many to choose from!!
@@rugbybuzz true,thanks for seeing my comment❤️
@@HaydnMartin always!
Maybe 1 of the best impact players yes but not starters
Absolutely love siya but schalk was a different animal
More like the Wolrd Cup era best XV and not all time. That being said , i agree a lot with this selection for the last 30 years or so. I would only change Brussow at 6, as a fetcher specialist (the best I have seen), Morné Steyn at 10 (the best kicker I have seen) and Jacque Fourie at 13. Might as well be Montgomery at 15, but I like Joubert there also. As for the best XV all time, i dont know much, since i have seen almost nothing before mid nineties, but i guess guys like D. Gerber and N. Botha, to name a few, should at least be in the conversation. Probably many more, but i cannot talk much, since I have missed the first 70 years of Sprngboks rugby.
13 had to be Jacques Fourie
For modern times yes; of all time it’s Daniel
Nah AM better than J fourie, but i agree burger was better than Siya, i would still sneak Bakkies in there
@@wernertukker5420 Pfffft! JF would tie that oupa in a knot.
@@chrisnaude2929 how old are you?
@@wernertukker5420 Doesn't matter. Doesn't change a thing.
Gerber Gerber Gerber
Yeah a common comment…he was on my first draft! 🥲
I think Lukhanyo Am is brilliant but for anyone to be placed above Danie Gerber at 13 is simply wrong. Gerber was a once in a lifetime type player.
It's difficult to imagine a Springbok greatest team without Frans Steyn included, also Schalk Burger was an absolute legend at 6, but It is very difficult to pick only 15 when there are SO many greats to choose from.
I know, it was pretty hard to choose this list but I gave it a go! 😅
@@rugbybuzz nicley done
Where would you play him - he's on the bench with Skinstad
I'm Australian and Francois Steyn was the first player I'd pick.
@@mootheconqueror1965 in which position?
4:52 the pass for fourie damn!class🎉❤
You haven't done your homework properly. DANIE GERBER is the best centre the world has ever seen!!
Everyone has an opinion buddy! 👍All just a bit of fun...What's your XV?
Carel du Plessis, Danie Gerber, Mannetjies Roux, HO de Villiers, Naas Botha, Frik du Preez, Uli Scmidt. from a different era and different regime😮
Amateurs. You can’t put anyone who didn’t play professionally. Come on. And none of those guys played many games.
@@jameswyatt4443 unfortunately.
1. Os du Randy
2. Uli Schmit
3. Balie Swart
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Victor Matfield
6. Schalk Burger
7. Pieter Steph du Toit
8. Duane Vermeulen
9. Fourie du Preez
10. Handre Pollard
11. Brian Habana
12. Jean de Villiers
13. Danie Gerber
14. Cheslin Colby
15. Andre Joubert
Bomb Squad:
Joost vd Westhuizen
Malcolm Marx
Bakkies Botha
Ox Nche
Beast Ntawarira
Ray Mordt
Kwagga Smit
Yeah this is more of a modern team! Might have to do a “legends” list!
I had the majority spot on with you mate except for the following.
1 Tendai Beast
6 Schalk burger
8 pierre spies
10 Morne Steyn
13 jaque Fourie
15 Percy Montgomery
So hard to pick this! Everyone has an opinion! Some people need to chill in the comments 🤣
@@rugbybuzz South Africans get extremely butt hurt for some reason, and I’m South African, can’t please all of the people all of the time 😂😂
@@cjogden8385 haha I know! I've got an AllBlacks XV dropping ina. few days - let's see how that goes down 👀
@@rugbybuzz good luck mate sure to be a ton of arguments there too😂😂 Richie mccaw as captain though 😉😂
Have to disagree on Fourie at 13. Not that I think Fourie wasn't exceptional, mind you. It's just that he wasn't in the same ballpark as arguably the greatest outside centre of all time (of all teams, not just Springboks), Danie Gerber.
Danie Gerber???
Bakkies, juan smith schalk and danie gerber
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Fantastic selection! Other possibles: Beast at prop, Bismarck at hooker, Joost at 9, Jaque at 13, Percy at 15.
Irishman here. Like to say pretty good. Joist Van Der Westhuisen might be my 9, Danie Gerber at 12 but all in all pretty good. Glad Siya got picked.
As a Saffa, I approve this message!
Hard to leave Schalk Burger and Jacques Fourie out of the equation too
1. Os Du Randt
2.Marx
3. John Smith (Captain)
4.Eben Etzebeth
5.Matfield
6.Schalk Burger
7.PSDT
8.Duane Vermeulen
9.Fourie Du Preez
10.Handre Pollard
11.Habana
12. Frans Steyn
13.Danie Gerber
14.Cheslin Kolbe
15.Andre Joubert
Percy at 15 and Naas at 10
Is an impossible task to select the XV greatest springboks of all time too many fantastic players, the same is true for the All Blacks....GO BOKKE!
My All Blacks one drops in a few days...let's see what you think 👀
@@rugbybuzz just make sure you have Christian Cullen there mate!
@@gerryharvey2237 you might be in for a shock there 👀😂
@@rugbybuzz c'mon mate no Cullen???? list isn't out yet and there is controversy already 😆
@@gerryharvey2237 There was one guy I just couldn't leave out...all shall be revealed soon! 👀
I think this author only started watching rugby a few years ago. In my opinion the Boks from the eighties were the best era.
Naas, Carel du Plessis, Ray Mordt and Danie Gerber will make my honour list.
I would agree that Habana is probably better but only marginally so. Cheslin is amazing but Mordt was such a beast
As a New Zealander,can't agree more.That 80s boks backline,I'm sweating allready
This is more of a modern list! I’ve been watching since I was little! I might have to do a “legends” list soon!
It was a different game. All these players would SMOKE an 80s team just because of the size, strength and speed.
Need a PRE 95 side.
Jouba for me is awesome, but he isn't better than Willie Le Roux or Willemse. His defence wasn't great
@@mvubu6823 pre 95 vids are coming soon
Schalk Burger
Beast
Percy Montgomery
Great shouts 💪🏻 Hard to leave them out!
Where's schalk burger bro?
I was 51% Siya 49% Schalk! So hard to pick! All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
Excellent agree 100% with all of your picks. I have read so many Greatest 15's Rugby Buzz is the greatest. As a Kiwi I live Rugby maybe I would only replace Fitzpatrick - with a South African say Malcom or Bismarck. Most best 15's pick Fitzpatrick but as an ex Hooker i agree with your Woods.
haha this sounds like I wrote it! Kind words thank you! It's very tough to choose just XV greats! Glad you thought I did a good job! :) More to come...
Honestly not a bad list
My main changes would be
Burger 6 then either Matfield or JDV captain
13 Fourie or Gerber
15 Willie or Percy
Quite a lot of overlap then! Great Picks!
No way Willie or Percy gets in ahead of Andre Joubert
1 Os du rand
2 Malcom Marx
3 Frans Malherbe
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 Victor Matfield
6 Schalk Burger
7 Pieter Steph Du Toit
8 Duane Vermeulen
9 Fouries du Preez
10 Naas Botha
11 Bryan Habana
12 Jean de Villiers
13 Danie Gerber
14 Cheslin Kolbe
15 Percy Montgomery
16 James Dalton
17 Ox Nche
18 John Smit
19 Bakkies Botha
20 Juan Smith
21 Joost Van der Westhuizen
22 Henry Honiball
23 Jaques Fourie
Joubert was a cracking attacking fullback, possibly better than Percy.
Not a bad representation of the last 20 odd years but calling it "all time" is a bit of a stretch. Try again.
@@jaconieuwoudt717 everyone has an opinion buddy! Who makes your XV?
@@rugbybuzz Danie Gerber not making a greatest of all time is ludicrous. Unfortunately, he was playing during isolation so very limited international games, but I think he is widely considered not only the best center of SA but one of the best to ever play the game. Joost instead of Fourie Du Preez, Naas Botha (Arguable - Probable the best kicker in the game ever) instead of Handre Pollard. Wings, with the likes of Ray Mord, Carel Duplessis. Forwards....I don't know, lots of disputes over there. Frik Du Preez was a lock that kicked a drop goal, kicked a conversion and scored a try in the same match. None of your locks could come close to claiming that.
Best in last 20 year...still debatable, but more accurate. Best of all time....hmmm not.
@@edrianluyt8735couldn't put it any better!
Agree Schalk and Danie Gerber.
Andre Joubert.
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We have to pick two teams. That would both fup each other up!
Imagine that.
Great team but I'd have Percy Montgomery at 15 and Joost at 9 . I know people may say there is recency bias here but the fact is most of your selections are double world cup winners (which happened recently) so it's hard to disagree with this list. This team would destroy every team that has ever existed!
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So many greats left out.
Impossible to pick a all time team. Rather say my best from the last 10/20years.
Danie Gerber.
Nass Botha.
Etc etc.
I know so hard to do this 🤪
IMO Honorable mentions: John Smit, Bismarck Du Plessis, Bakkies Botha, Schulk Burger, Jacques Fourie, Jesse Kriel. Outside of that, I totally agree.
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uli schmidt,dani gerber,joost and naas botha surely
Mate you got no idea.I still get shivers over that Bok backline from the 80s dismantling our All Blacks
More of a “modern” team - but I’d still argue this XV would stand up against anyone 🔥
Actual best xv!!! 1-15..Du Randt Uli Schmidt Marais Etzebeth Frik Du Prez Rob Louw Juan Smith Vermeulen Joost ( no surname necessary!) Naas Botha Carel DuPlessis Gainsford Gerber Habana and then either Montgomery or Joubert...tie! Thank you 😁
Great team!!!
Siya Kolisi is an openside flanker and Du Toit is Blindside. The numbers are the opposite in SA
Are they? 🤔
This list is impossible to choose and to please everyone with your choice too! Every player you named is an amazing player and there are so many more amazing players to choose from in the same positions. At the end of the day it comes day to who the supporter favours.
A great list of players who in their peaks will win a WRC hands down!!!
@@stuartjordan9539 I gave it a good go! All blacks XV dropping on Wednesday 👀
Just Danie Gerber, Frik du Preez, Breyton Paulse, Percy Montgomery, Damian Willemse, Carel du Plessis, Naas Botha etc...
Great shouts!
These 15 players mentioned here
are from the professional era - post 1996.
That is not what the title says
Yeah maybe more of a professional team! The legend vid could be on the horizon soon!
Joost van de Westhuizen was better than Fourie du Preez
DANIE Gerber the best 13 the world has ever seen
Great shout! His name was on my first draft!
1- malhebre
2- bismark
3- beast
4- etzebeth
5- matfield
6- burger
7- pieter steph
8- vermeulen - (captain)
9- fourie du preez (vc)
10- pollard
11- kolbe
12- de allende
13- jaque fourie
14- habbana
15- Montgomery
Reserves (bomb squad)
16- marx
17- kitsoff
18- koch
19- Danie russouw
20- Rg snyman
21- Heinrich brussouw
22- Ruan pienaar
23- Frans steyn
Team selected from about 2006 till current. When I started really watching.
Compare apples with apples.
Wow! nice video
are you serious the great DANIE GERBER🤨🤔🤐😟
On reflection maybe I dropped the ball on this position 😂 Tough to leave so many greats out!
Ag please, no 6?
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Have heard about Naas, Uli, Bakkies, Joost, Frik du Preez , Danie Gerber, and the list keep going on....... Oh and Siya is probably nr 48 behind Schalk, Francois, Ruben Kruger and many more graets
Uli weighted 82kg - it's a different game. Frik was smaller than JdV
Not possible to pick Pre 95 Boks - they have their own league
Danie Gerber, Joost van der Westhuisen, Schalk Berger, Jon Smit. All of them deserve a place in front of those chosen instead. Danie Gerber was the best centre in the world, he just couldn't play internationals until the end of his career.
I agree with all the picks except 6. Schalk Burger and 13. Jaques Fourie. Although, in the squad should be Frans Steyn, he could play nearly every position in the back line, and not to mention his massive kicks.
Yeah hard to leave Burger out! 😦
I don't know who is better Lukhanyo Am or Jesse Kriel
Maybe all time is Am but currently on form is Kriel for me 💪🏻
Andre Venter
Just my 2cents:
1. Os
2. Marx
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. Matfield
6. Schalk Burger
7. PSD
8. Vermeulen
9. Fourie DP
10. Naas Botha
11. Habana
12. Mannetjies Roux
13. Danie Gerber
14. Cheslin Kolbe
15. Percy Monty
Bench(5-3 split):
16. Beast
17. Uli
18. Kitshoff
19. Bakkies
20. Vrik dP
21. Joost
22. Frans Steyn
23. Ray Mordt
@@naasduplessis855 the bench as well! 🔥
Juan Smith, Heinrich Brussouw, Ruben Kruger...my loose trio...
You should try and make one with rugby legends
11 just had to be cheslin kolbe
Pienaar, Joost, Nas Botha
Nice team. All but 15 is correct. Should, for sure be Frans Steyn, He's the best ever Bok. 2 world cups, 2 Lions series, French championships and the list goes on. He had flair and could kick better than most of the GOATs.
Pretty happy you agree with all but 1 position! Very valid shout at 15! It's pretty hard to choose from all the unreal BOKS!
Schalk Burger, Frans Steyn and Bakkies Botha?
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Honestly I've heard Danie Gerber as the best player all my life but I don't know for sure just old people and our dads saying he was the best of all time.
For me, I'd have Schalk for Siya and Danie Gerber for Am. I don't agree with some calls for Joost to be ahead of Fourie. As a game general, Fourie was phenomenal.
@@Warri0r1985-w a general indeed! Yeah hard to argue with your suggestions! So many greats in the Springbok archives!
all, these players born yesterday. Gerber?
Maybe more of a modern list - true Gerber was hard to leave out
Schalk Burger -Rob Louw & many more flankers better than Siya,
Garry Teichman as well as favourite Captain of all time, lead by example -Thor close 2nd,
Joost vd Westhuizen -Fourie du Preez close 2nd,
Danie Gerber - Jacque Fourie close 2nd,
At 15 close 2nd would be Percy.
All these close 2nds will be on bench with Bismark, Bakkies and Ox
For fuck sake they won the world cup with 1 point and against 14 men who almost kicked there ass
Ooosh
Uli schmit,schalk brits,bakkies,kobus wiese,joost,honniball,gerber,mulder,paulse,slaptjips
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Ja, and so there are indeed difference of opinions and this is one position only, what about other positions?
Got more than half of the team wrong
Everyone has an opinion buddy! Who makes your team? All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
Definitely not half. You judge list like thisnon glaring errors. Only one is maybe Siya. Their have been far better flanks
The fact you put Eben in, not sure how much rugby history you've watched😂😂
Hang on hang on...you wouldn't have Eben in? 👀 Who instead?
Du Toit is a blinside flanker and Kolisi openside flanker
I know I'm biased as a bok fan, but this feels like a world 15😂
@@tertiusgous8348 hahaha I need to do an updated current world XV video soon…not sure who would be in that team but it’ll be stacked with Boks most likely 😛
Where is 6 Jan Ellis Heinrich Brissouw, Rob Louw, To San Strauss 8 Morne du Plessis 9 Dawie De Villiers, Robert du Preez. 10 Naas Botha. 11 Ray Mordt 12 & 13 Daniel Gerber, Mannetjies Roux, Jacques Fourie, ext. 14 Carel du Plessis 15 H O de Villiers Gysie Pienaar,. Percy Montgomery and many more what you choose
Couldn't have all of them in there! 😢
I agree with the team, except for 13 and 6 where I believe Danie Gerber would have been a better choice - he has incredible speed of a wing and the power of Lomu to push through tackles. At his best Am is brilliant but Jesse Kriel may have the edge right now. And let’s not forget Marius Joubert and Jacques Fourie, both brilliat players.
No. 6 is Schalk Burger where he won IRB breakthrough - and IRB Player of the Year. Only choice.
Great shouts man 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Then believe it or not. Would be tough to choose between Andre Venter and Peter Steph
Tough to leave out!
8th man Pierre Spies
Great shout! Physical beast!!!
You have a VERY limited definition of “all time.” 😂
It’s my “Best Ever” - this bok team will smash any other 🤷🏻♂️ Just my opinion buddy!
Siya over Schalk? What you smoking? I can think of 5 other nr. 6’s better than Siya
Just my list buddy! We all have an opinion 😎
6 Schalk Burger, 12 DDA, 15 Percy
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JDV over DDA is a crime.
Both of them over Danie Gerber is an even bigger Crime!
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Joost van der Westhuizen must be the best scrumhalf SA ever produced. I agree with another commenter that Danie Gerber was the best outside centre in the world, never mind SA. There were many greats. Let’s not forget Uli Schmidt at hooker, Karel du Plessis at wing. And Naas Botha, why does he not even get a mention? He was the greatest flyhalf the world ever had. Subjective, I know, and also depends on your age, I guess. Go Bokke!
Fair play buddy! So hard to pick a side!!!
6 Schalk
8 Pierre
9 Joost
13 J fourie
Great shouts!!!
Siya Kolisi is an open side flanker. SA uses 6 an 7 diufferently
Naas Botha at 10, Danie Gerber at 13
Great shouts 💪🏻
Then there is this small little matter called Ray Mordt. At 14
Or terblanche
Joost
Pollard
Habana
Devilliers
Kriel
Kolbe
Montgomery
Os du Randt
Bismarck du Plessis
Beast
Eben
Bakkies
Schalk
Francois Pienaar or Steph
Dwayne or Spies
Hard to pick the list!
Montgomery surely wt 15
13 is Danie gerber
Great shout!
No Springbok All Time greatest XV can exclude Frik du Prez. Would have made the best ever 6 in the modern game.
Joost joost joost with all respect
Yeah tough to leave out!!!
No Reuben Kruger,Mark Andrews,Danie Gerber?
Tough to leave out!!!
6 schalk burger 13 Danie Gerber 9.joost vd Westhuizen.
Great shouts!
Yes Jooste at 9 and Andre Joubert at 15
Great shouts! So hard to pick!!!
Based on performance on the field. Schalk burger should be at 6. Infact if we gna be honest, there are a few ahead of kolisi, based on actual rugby. As far as leadership. He is second to non obviously. Likewise with John smit and Frans Pienaar, good/great leaders, not neccasary best players in their respective positions. Each to their own, but that's pretty obvious.
Love bakkies. But eben has surpassed him
Eben better than Bakkies Botha? In your dreams
My dreams are quite wild 🤪
The enforcer Bakkies John Philip Botha will forever be the best lock.
Joost van der Westhuizen is easily the best-ever scrum half.
Nass Botha or Henry Honiball at Flyhalf beats Pollard any day.
Morne Steyn/Percy Montgomery.
Pierre Spies at NO.8
Tough to do a list!!!
I know this is shite, but rejoice in the current Saffer team, they have everyones number, NZ , Ireland; France England, a sweet spot!