Leaving Christian Cullen out of this list completely delegitimises it. Beyond that I'd also argue for Michael Jones at 6 (where he played in the latter half of his career) and Zinzan Brooke at 8
Yes, depends what style of play you want and that’s Upto the coach , if you want a good running game/fullback with best attacking threats he is one of the best options , but if you want to go for a full back with a good kicking and vision you go for someone like dagg with his massive boot or someone beauden Barrett with his vision and variety of kicking/play making options, maybe you want a all round good full back like Ben smith , it’s completely depends on the type of team you want to build
Olo Brown, Keven Mealamu, Carl Hayman, Brodie Retallick, Colin Meads, Michael Jones, Richie McCaw, Buck Shelford, Aaron Smith, Dan Carter, Jonah Lomu, Ma'a Nonu, Tana Umaga, John Kirwan, Christian Cullen
Brown would never have made a go of loose head. You can't just put players anywhere at least think about their positions. As for Hayman his best years were when he left nz rugby
1. K Gray 2. S Fitzpatrick 3. C Hayman 4. S Whitelock 5. C Meads 6. I Kirkpatrick 7. R McCaw 8. Z Brooke 9. S Going 10. D Carter 11. J Lomu 12. T Umaga 13. B Robertson 14. J Kirwan 15. G Nepia
Barrett played most of his games at 10 with Christian Cullen and Ben Smith played really well at 15, Ardie Savea still has games in him but would definitely makes a push at 8
@@rugbybuzz fair point i guess but think cullen was the best 15 although injuries got him out really quick, there was a player i thought was the best skilled number 8 but again unfortunate for him injuries only got him limited games for the all blacks, this player was Ron Cribb, he had the speed, kicks, ball playing, defense but sadly only played 15 games or so
That team could play this one - Ken Gray, Kevin Mealamu, Olo Brown, Pinetree Meads, Pole Whiting, Ian Kirkpatrick, Zinzan Brooke, Michael Jones, Graham Bachop, Andrew Mertens, Bert Cooke, Ron Jarden, Bruce Robertson, Brian Williams, Christian Cullen - Fred Allen (Coach).
Most of the old guys are too small for the modern game, pine-tree was 6'3, Ken Gray was less than 100kg, Bryan Williams, considered massive in his era, 85kg, Ron Jarden 5'8" 81kg, Bruce Robertson 86kg. Compare them with today's midfield pairing of Jordie & Reiko who are 6'5" & 6'3" respectively & weigh 102 & 103kgs. The eras are just different.
before I watch the vid here's mine: 1 O Brown 2 S Fitzpatrick 3 C Hayman 4 S Whitelock 5 C Meads 6 J Collins 7 R McCaw 8 Z Brooke 9 A Smith 10 D Carter 11 J Lomu 12 M Nonu 13 R Ioane 14 W Jordan 15 C Cullen Bench: B Barrett, J Wilson, R Loe, I Jones, M Jones, G Bachop
You don't know much about scrummaging brown never played loose head and would not have technically suited it and Loe would not rate in our top 20 props
@@brentwithey4241 I know Brown was a tighthead but both are the best props ever imo. Name 19 better NZ props then Loe. btw I use to be a schoolboy rep as prop which makes me laugh about what you said.
Not a bad team at all but I would make the following changes. C Cullen at 15, J Kirwan at 14, Z Brooke at 8, M Jones at 6, C Meads at 5 and O Brown at 3
Barrett is not in the top 20 AB fullbacks. Cullen isn’t even our best, sitting behind arguably Nepia, Scott and maybe even Clark. TBH even Ben Smith I’d put ahead of Cully - a more complete player who performed well over a way longer period
Can even name another ABs team from Pom pick ..... 1. Olo Brown 2. Keven Mealamu 3. Carl Hayman 4. Robin Brooke 5. Chris Jack 6. Michael Jones 7. Ardie Savea 8. Zinzan Brooke 9. Justin Marshall 10. Mehrtens 11 Juilian Savea 12. Tana Umaga ( Capt ) 13. Bruce Robertson 14 . Joe Rokocoko. 15. Christian Cullen ....can even name 2 more teams
Coles over Fitzpatrick, so much more dynamic could also pass, watching fitzy bomb certain tries and then saying he's the best is crazy work, most would put mealamu ahead but Coles in his prime is unmatched. Savea over lomu, blasphemy you say? Savea had a more rounded game, far superior defensively and could do everything lomu could do and he was doing it against guys the same size as him. Cullen at fullback, barret on the bench, weird leaving out Tana but I get it, I'd personally have Rokocoko, Cory Jane or lomu over Howlett as well, I was just never a fan, always thought he was a one trick pony.
Carl Hayman, Dane Coles to give Fitzy a run for his money, I wasn’t around for Pinetree but got to meet him… such a giant of a man he was RIP… Zinzan??? Kirwan and Cullen
1. Woodcock 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Hayman 4. Retallick 5. Meads 6. Jones 7. McCaw 8. Brooke 9. Smith 10. Carter 11. Lomu 12. Nonu 13. Umaga 14. Rokocoko (naughty as he was mostly 11 but did play at 14 time to time) 15. Cullen 16. Mealamu 17. Brown 18. Franks 19. Whitelock 20. Collins 21. Shelford 22. Going 23. Kirwan Imagine Collins and Shelford off the bench. Teams would hurt
So Subjective & this only has players from the Professional Era - missing from this era are the like of C Cullen, Z Brooke, C Hayman, J Wilson, K Mealamu, D Coles, J Rokocoko, O Brown. While J Kirwan, W Little & M Jones cross the period rugby went Pro & Pre Professional the likes of C Meads, W Whineray, B Lohore, B Robertson, R Jarden, B Williams, K Grey, K Skinner, K Tremain, I Kirkpatrick, S Going, G Nepia etc. These guys start ahead of your team everyday - Lock - Meads over either, Prop - Whineray, Brown or Hayman over Franks, Flanker - Jones or Kirkpatrick over Kaino, Fullback - Cullen or Nepia over Barrett, Wing - Jarden or Kirwan over Howlett & potenially Robertson over Nonu
We could make up many great All Blacks teams, with a mix of many generations. It is probably better to have a team for each 20 years (generation). There are players from the 60's (era of the 100%ers) who would absolutely excel in the modern era. Props like Ken Gray, Keith Murdoch, Jazz Muller (who could run like a back), Pine tree Meads at lock, Kel Tremain, Ian Kirkpatrick, Waka Nathan, Brian Lochore in the back row (no wonder they were unbeatable). In the 70s there were Bill Osborne and Bruce Robertson in midfield, Graham Mourie (probably the greatest captain as he won with arguably the weakest ABs teams), and trapper Loveridge, the half back who had it all. You could build top teams from the 80s and 90s, and of course the 00s and 10s as listed in the article. No world 15 is complete without Christian Cullen at 15 (called the Paekakariki Express). At his best literally unbeaten for speed and change of direction (check out youtube for Cullen and enjoy).
The only reason he’s over Cullen is I just had to have B.B at fullback - Carter took the no.10 shirt so he had to slot in at fullback 🤫 I know I know a controversial one…
Carl Hayman>Owen Franks Ben Smith/Jeff Wilson/John Kirwan > Doug Howlett BB isn't even the 2nd best 15 for the ABs but to have Cullen out basically just destroyed the integrity of whoever picked this team. I could even look past Howlett at 14 but no Cullen . . . Yea that stuffed the whole thing up
Yeap - and the luxury the All Blacks have is there are equally as good players that could take at least 10 positions, the likes of Maccaw, Carter Lomu, Nonu, Whitelock and Woodcock are always in this 15. Maybe Zinzan Brooke ahead of Read and Frank Bunce ahead of Smith....this is definitely the best All Black team of the last 20 years
How could this be the best ever Xv? Because no players before 1986 , none from the great teams 1905,06. 1924,25. 1956 , none from the great teams of the 60s none from the 1978 , how much research have you done ? Big questions bad research. Now I will pick none of your team and will pick only the greats you left out from all the great teams I have mentioned. My team is : George Nepia (1924,25,29,30) John Kirwan (1984-1994) Bruce Robertson (1972-74,76-81) Bert Cooke (1924-26,28,30) Billy Stead (1903-06,08) Sid Going (1967-77) Maurice Brownlie (1922-26,28) Michael Jones (1987-98) Ian Kirkpatrick (1967-77) Tiny White (1949-56) Colin Meads (1957-71) Kevin Skinner (1949-54,56) Sean Fitzpatrick (1986-97) Ken Gray (1963-69)
Mate, That’s even worse. Only one player beyond 1980. No Carter and no Mccaw. No Cullen for that matter… they are fitter stronger and faster and played in the modern pro era. You have rose tinted glasses on
For the TEAM to be "Best Ever"...You MUST have 15 George Nepia (1924 Invincible) 8 Buck Shelford (Legend) 12 Bill Osborne 13 Bruce Roberston 1 Steve Mcdowell (RWC Winner) 5 Colin Meads 6 Micheal Jones.....surely people!!!!
Sid Going and Ian Jones not mentioned. Jones was the NZ counterpart to John Eales. The locks mentioned aren't up to either of these two greatest locks.
I glanced at the full team list at the end and didn't bother any more with this video because it's clear that whoever put it together isn't that clever when it comes to rugby. No Christian Cullen? Kaino ahead of Collins? Howlett? Goodbye.
Yeah he missed out on this one...my logic is that Carter was at 10 and i just had to have Barrett in my team...I couldn't leave him out! Maybe I should've done an All Blacks 23 😆
how any of these players were on at the field at the same time? hard to pick players across eras. definitly a more modern team but cant argue with selections
This is more of a modern best - I didn’t factor in “legend” of the all blacks - I just couldn’t judge how good they really were - maybe a “legends” vid is worth a shot
1. Woodcock 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Hayman 4. Retallick 5. Whitelock 6. Kaino 7. McCaw 8. Read 9. Smith 10. Carter 11. Lomu 12. Nonu 13. Umaga 14. Kirwan 15. Cullen Unlucky to miss out Franks who has longevity over Hayman but Hayman is the best scrummaging prop of all time on either side from any team. Jones and Zinny unlucky Jones did play 6 but Kaino was a far better 6. And at 7 the pick is obvious. Zinny and Read is very very debatable I could forgive anyone who picks Zinny over Read. Ben smith i nearly put at 14 Wilson as well Cullen is clearly the 15 tho so ben misses out and Kirwan was so good people forget how good he was. As for this video I didnt subscribe because how do you leave out the undisputed GOAT of all 15s from any team ever? Basically just took all credibility away.
Haha ok mate fair enough! The only reason I left Cullen out was to fit Barrett in my all time XV…he couldn’t get the no.10 jersey so he had to slot in at fullback…controversial, but i just couldn’t leave Barrett out of my list! Maybe I’ll get your sub soon 😎
And why attack him this is his opinion, make your own video and see if everyone agrees with you. Why do we have to attack people this was a fun video thanks to the creator
This is just a silly list. It only has players from the last 15 years apart from Lomu. So many players left out. Colin Meads would probably be the first picked. Much as I love Beauden Barret there’s NO WAY he’s the best fullback to EVER play for NZ, Kirwan would be in before Howlett anyday of the week. I could go on and on and on………
@@SuperEdge67 This is just my list mate. Everyone has an opinion 🤩 Also Howlett played between 2000-07 for the ABs, and Fitzpatrick played between 1986-97 for the ABs. So not just Lomu like you said…Mine is a more “modern” list yes and still the best in my eyes…I could do another series on “legends” and then I’d go waaaay back…not sure where I’d find any decent video footage for that 🫠 Who’s your best AB XV? 🇳🇿
ah, this is just my list buddy! We all have an opinion! I had to have B.Barrett in there...Carter obviously takes the 10 jersey so B.Barrett has to slot in at fullback...I wouldn't mind Cullen, but I just cannot leave out B.Barrett!
Anyone you think we've missed? Who's in your best XV? Let me know in the comments 👇
Greatt video😤🔥
Maybe Jerry Collins at 6 ?
Christen Cullen all day at full back
What? No Buck Shelford? And what about the Paekakariki Express, Christian Cullen? Also, where's Colin Pinetree Meads?
You probably could make 3 more THE BEST NZ XV from the ones you left out.... Christian Cullen should have been automatic Fullback??
Leaving Christian Cullen out of this list completely delegitimises it.
Beyond that I'd also argue for Michael Jones at 6 (where he played in the latter half of his career) and Zinzan Brooke at 8
I just had to have B.B in my team! If D.C gets the no.10 jersey, B.B has to slot in at fullback! 🤪
Christian Cullen??
Yo!!! Christian Cullen Surely the best 15
Yes, depends what style of play you want and that’s Upto the coach , if you want a good running game/fullback with best attacking threats he is one of the best options , but if you want to go for a full back with a good kicking and vision you go for someone like dagg with his massive boot or someone beauden Barrett with his vision and variety of kicking/play making options, maybe you want a all round good full back like Ben smith , it’s completely depends on the type of team you want to build
I'd take barret over dagg, but arguably Cullen over barret, especially if Carter is at 10
Absolutely, Christian Cullen at 15. Rest of the team pretty much or close. Just shows why the AB's team from 2009 to 2015 was so dominant.
Hard to leave him out! So many NZ legends!
I love Beauden Barrett but Christian Cullen is by far the best Fullback EVER seen, globally.
I just couldn’t leave B.B out of my XV - D.C has to get the no.10 jersey so B.B slotted in at fullback 💪🏻
Zinzan over Read, Jones over Kaino, Cullen over Barrett
Fair play!
Zinzan Brooke at 8 and Christian Cullen at fullback all day.from a springbok supporter.
🙏🏻
Olo Brown, Keven Mealamu, Carl Hayman, Brodie Retallick, Colin Meads, Michael Jones, Richie McCaw, Buck Shelford, Aaron Smith, Dan Carter, Jonah Lomu, Ma'a Nonu, Tana Umaga, John Kirwan, Christian Cullen
Damn fine team. Absolutely agree on the front row.
Old brown at loose head.
Brown would never have made a go of loose head. You can't just put players anywhere at least think about their positions. As for Hayman his best years were when he left nz rugby
Cullen at 15 is a must. Zinny at 8 is also a certain pick. Then comes Hayman, Michael Jones and Goldie Wilson, all unlucky to miss out.
Not a chance. Cullen is the only argument.
So hard to pick a XV!!!!
John Kirwin , Micheal Jones , Zinzan Brooke
Great shouts!!
inga tuigamala tanu umaga,christian cullen,jk zinzan and michael jones,gary whetton all great players
CHRISTIAN CULLEN THE GOAT OF FULLBACKS THATS A GIVEN
Alan Hewson was mightier!
Fair play! I had to get B.B in my team
1. K Gray
2. S Fitzpatrick
3. C Hayman
4. S Whitelock
5. C Meads
6. I Kirkpatrick
7. R McCaw
8. Z Brooke
9. S Going
10. D Carter
11. J Lomu
12. T Umaga
13. B Robertson
14. J Kirwan
15. G Nepia
This team is absolutely lethal!
Much better team
Yes much better than the garbage xv in the video. Would have Loveridge at 9 and Cooke at 12 though
How many captains in that list?
@@bengutsell You don’t get to captain the All Blacks by being a crap player… Taine excluded haha surely McCaw takes the honours in this lineup
Barrett played most of his games at 10 with Christian Cullen and Ben Smith played really well at 15, Ardie Savea still has games in him but would definitely makes a push at 8
With Carter at 10, Barrett has to slot in at 15 for me...I just can't leave him out.
Smith played as much wing as fullback behind dagg so really a toss up between Cullen and Barrett. Be stoked to have either
@@rugbybuzz fair point i guess but think cullen was the best 15 although injuries got him out really quick, there was a player i thought was the best skilled number 8 but again unfortunate for him injuries only got him limited games for the all blacks, this player was Ron Cribb, he had the speed, kicks, ball playing, defense but sadly only played 15 games or so
@@rugbybuzz100%. Beauden Barrett 2016-2017 was the highest level a rugby player has ever played, albeit at 10. He has to be in the team.
That team could play this one - Ken Gray, Kevin Mealamu, Olo Brown, Pinetree Meads, Pole Whiting, Ian Kirkpatrick, Zinzan Brooke, Michael Jones, Graham Bachop, Andrew Mertens, Bert Cooke, Ron Jarden, Bruce Robertson, Brian Williams, Christian Cullen - Fred Allen (Coach).
Phwoar! 🔥
Most of the old guys are too small for the modern game, pine-tree was 6'3, Ken Gray was less than 100kg, Bryan Williams, considered massive in his era, 85kg, Ron Jarden 5'8" 81kg, Bruce Robertson 86kg.
Compare them with today's midfield pairing of Jordie & Reiko who are 6'5" & 6'3" respectively & weigh 102 & 103kgs.
The eras are just different.
@@ngabushallday6642no ones arguing that they would be modern greats
@@Youre
The original post on this thread absolutely is.
Cullen at 15, Kirwan at 14, Umaga at 13, Buck Shelford at 8, Michael Jones at 6
Great shouts 🔥
The bro actually put a question mark after typing Christian Cilullen.😂
That man had defenders turning while the nika was swerving.
NO way Christian Cullen does not make 15 over BB. CC was the greatest AB fullback ever.
BB is better overall player
What did he win?
I couldn’t leave out B.B 😢
Poms only know RECENT ABs history? Fitzpatrick there because he's a Pom celebrity
Yeah list feels like it was compiled by someone who only started following rugby in 2003
@@kaimaiiti 100% bro
This is more of a modern list! I might need to do a “legends” team at some point!
before I watch the vid here's mine:
1 O Brown 2 S Fitzpatrick 3 C Hayman 4 S Whitelock 5 C Meads 6 J Collins 7 R McCaw 8 Z Brooke 9 A Smith 10 D Carter 11 J Lomu 12 M Nonu 13 R Ioane 14 W Jordan 15 C Cullen
Bench: B Barrett, J Wilson, R Loe, I Jones, M Jones, G Bachop
Ooh I didn’t do a bench on this one…
13 R Ioane?!!😂
First rethink that.!
You don't know much about scrummaging brown never played loose head and would not have technically suited it and Loe would not rate in our top 20 props
@@brentwithey4241 I know Brown was a tighthead but both are the best props ever imo. Name 19 better NZ props then Loe. btw I use to be a schoolboy rep as prop which makes me laugh about what you said.
R ioane?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He would maybe be 13 in the worst ABs side to play any position
Not a bad team at all but I would make the following changes. C Cullen at 15, J Kirwan at 14, Z Brooke at 8, M Jones at 6, C Meads at 5 and O Brown at 3
Ok ok hard to argue against Barret selection at #15 anyway I won't forgive that you left Christian Cullen out....really nice selections though
Sorry for leaving Cullen out mate...there were some tough calls in there 😃👀
@@rugbybuzz indeed toooooo many greats on NZ rugby.
@@gerryharvey2237 👌🏻 What video would you like to see next?
@@rugbybuzz how about coaches? take into consideration not only the record but the inovation on both sides of the game.
Barrett is not in the top 20 AB fullbacks. Cullen isn’t even our best, sitting behind arguably Nepia, Scott and maybe even Clark. TBH even Ben Smith I’d put ahead of Cully - a more complete player who performed well over a way longer period
Can even name another ABs team from Pom pick .....
1. Olo Brown
2. Keven Mealamu
3. Carl Hayman
4. Robin Brooke
5. Chris Jack
6. Michael Jones
7. Ardie Savea
8. Zinzan Brooke
9. Justin Marshall
10. Mehrtens
11 Juilian Savea
12. Tana Umaga ( Capt )
13. Bruce Robertson
14 . Joe Rokocoko.
15. Christian Cullen
....can even name 2 more teams
So many unreal players 🫠 So hard to choose! I gave it a go 💪🏻
@@teawaruaedwards274 mehrtens is was never in the class of Dan Carter,from a Springbok supporter
@@PeterDawson-ii5ss never said he was?
Olo Brown was a tighthead prop . . .
Coles over Fitzpatrick, so much more dynamic could also pass, watching fitzy bomb certain tries and then saying he's the best is crazy work, most would put mealamu ahead but Coles in his prime is unmatched.
Savea over lomu, blasphemy you say? Savea had a more rounded game, far superior defensively and could do everything lomu could do and he was doing it against guys the same size as him.
Cullen at fullback, barret on the bench, weird leaving out Tana but I get it, I'd personally have Rokocoko, Cory Jane or lomu over Howlett as well, I was just never a fan, always thought he was a one trick pony.
Fair play!!!
1:Steve McDowell
2:Asafa Aumua
3: Ethan DeGroot
4: Brodie Retallick
5:Sam Whitelock
6: Ritchie Mcaw
7: Michael Jones
8:Ardie Savea
9: Aaron Smith
10:Dan Carter
11:Jonah Lomu
12:SBW
13:Maa Nonu
14:John Kirwan
15: Christian Cullen
Why would you play Richie at 6? Also Ethan and SBW. Come on man
Oosh great team!!!
Video quality is great! 👍🏼 Not an All Black fan so can’t comment too much on the team - they look pretty scary though!!! An underrated channel! 😊
15 I’d pick Cullen
Yeah fair enough! I just had to get B.B in the team!!!
Carl Hayman, Dane Coles to give Fitzy a run for his money, I wasn’t around for Pinetree but got to meet him… such a giant of a man he was RIP… Zinzan??? Kirwan and Cullen
1. Woodcock
2. Fitzpatrick
3. Hayman
4. Retallick
5. Meads
6. Jones
7. McCaw
8. Brooke
9. Smith
10. Carter
11. Lomu
12. Nonu
13. Umaga
14. Rokocoko (naughty as he was mostly 11 but did play at 14 time to time)
15. Cullen
16. Mealamu
17. Brown
18. Franks
19. Whitelock
20. Collins
21. Shelford
22. Going
23. Kirwan
Imagine Collins and Shelford off the bench. Teams would hurt
Woah quality team!!! No B.B in your squad???
All you fans who are arguing the older players need to recognise just how good the 2011-2015 ABs were. None of those older players come close.
That 2015 AB's team🔥
So Subjective & this only has players from the Professional Era - missing from this era are the like of C Cullen, Z Brooke, C Hayman, J Wilson, K Mealamu, D Coles, J Rokocoko, O Brown. While J Kirwan, W Little & M Jones cross the period rugby went Pro & Pre Professional the likes of C Meads, W Whineray, B Lohore, B Robertson, R Jarden, B Williams, K Grey, K Skinner, K Tremain, I Kirkpatrick, S Going, G Nepia etc. These guys start ahead of your team everyday - Lock - Meads over either, Prop - Whineray, Brown or Hayman over Franks, Flanker - Jones or Kirkpatrick over Kaino, Fullback - Cullen or Nepia over Barrett, Wing - Jarden or Kirwan over Howlett & potenially Robertson over Nonu
Great picks man 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Cullen first one picked.
Ben Smith with Lomu
Surely D.C first on the teamsheet? 😎
We could make up many great All Blacks teams, with a mix of many generations. It is probably better to have a team for each 20 years (generation).
There are players from the 60's (era of the 100%ers) who would absolutely excel in the modern era. Props like Ken Gray, Keith Murdoch, Jazz Muller (who could run like a back), Pine tree Meads at lock, Kel Tremain, Ian Kirkpatrick, Waka Nathan, Brian Lochore in the back row (no wonder they were unbeatable).
In the 70s there were Bill Osborne and Bruce Robertson in midfield, Graham Mourie (probably the greatest captain as he won with arguably the weakest ABs teams), and trapper Loveridge, the half back who had it all.
You could build top teams from the 80s and 90s, and of course the 00s and 10s as listed in the article.
No world 15 is complete without Christian Cullen at 15 (called the Paekakariki Express). At his best literally unbeaten for speed and change of direction (check out youtube for Cullen and enjoy).
@@cthlite I might have to do a “legends” vid
1. Woodcock
2. Taukeiaho
3. Heyman
4. Rettalick
5. Brad Thorn
6. Collins
7. Savea
8. Read
9. Smith
10. Carter
11. Lomu
12. Nonu
13. Umaga
14. Howlett
15. Cullen
Reserves: Mealamu, O Brown, Franks, Whitelock, M Jones, SBW, Barrett, kelleher
@@microfonehead6439 cracking team!!!
Christian Cullen at 15 the fact that you.got barret over Cullen is a bit unsettling hahah
The only reason he’s over Cullen is I just had to have B.B at fullback - Carter took the no.10 shirt so he had to slot in at fullback 🤫 I know I know a controversial one…
Carl Hayman>Owen Franks
Ben Smith/Jeff Wilson/John Kirwan > Doug Howlett
BB isn't even the 2nd best 15 for the ABs but to have Cullen out basically just destroyed the integrity of whoever picked this team.
I could even look past Howlett at 14 but no Cullen . . . Yea that stuffed the whole thing up
Great picks! So many quality players!
... Waka Nathan ..... Stan Meads .... Ian Kirkpatrick ... Bruce Robertson ..... Grant Batty lol
More of a “modern” list
cullen, kirwan, zinny brooke, whetton bros, stanley, inga, collins,so many others.... ...you cant pick 15 that everyone will agree on...
It was a tough one!
#3. Carl Hayman
#14. Jeff Wilson
#15. Ben Smith
Fair play!!!
Yeap - and the luxury the All Blacks have is there are equally as good players that could take at least 10 positions, the likes of Maccaw, Carter Lomu, Nonu, Whitelock and Woodcock are always in this 15.
Maybe Zinzan Brooke ahead of Read and Frank Bunce ahead of Smith....this is definitely the best All Black team of the last 20 years
Whineray,Fitzpatrick,Gray, Meads, Whitelock,McCaw, Kirkpatrick, Shelford, Smith, Carter, Robertson,Nonu, B.G.Williams, Kirwan,Nepia.
Great team 💪🏻
Ben smith before Howlett
Smith a FB? Quality player 🔥
i love watching all blacks play they always look scary
@@peacepilates3307 that 2015 World Cup team 🤩 💪🏻 🔥
Pretty much my team but i had kevin mealamu at 2 ben smith at 15 and jerry collins at 6
In my opinion, Beauden need to be in the best 15 in AB all time. Regardless what ever the position are
I tend to agree 😇
Cristian Cullen, Zinzan Brook, it srems best is most looking now
How could this be the best ever Xv? Because no players before 1986 , none from the great teams 1905,06. 1924,25. 1956 , none from the great teams of the 60s none from the 1978 , how much research have you done ? Big questions bad research. Now I will pick none of your team and will pick only the greats you left out from all the great teams I have mentioned. My team is :
George Nepia (1924,25,29,30)
John Kirwan (1984-1994)
Bruce Robertson (1972-74,76-81)
Bert Cooke (1924-26,28,30)
Billy Stead (1903-06,08)
Sid Going (1967-77)
Maurice Brownlie (1922-26,28)
Michael Jones (1987-98)
Ian Kirkpatrick (1967-77)
Tiny White (1949-56)
Colin Meads (1957-71)
Kevin Skinner (1949-54,56)
Sean Fitzpatrick (1986-97)
Ken Gray (1963-69)
Mate, That’s even worse. Only one player beyond 1980. No Carter and no Mccaw. No Cullen for that matter… they are fitter stronger and faster and played in the modern pro era. You have rose tinted glasses on
Maybe more of a modern list! I might have to do a “legends” one!! ☝🏼
One thing i would say about Tony Wookcock is he was the first of the modern props he paved the way for how props are now
Nah Os Du Randt did it before Tony Woodcock ever did
Can't really argue the forwards and even most of the backs but Tana Umaga, Joe Rokokoku and Christian Cullen can count themselves unlucky.
So hard to choose!!!
A mixture of Christian Cullen, Jonah Lomu, and Richie McCaw thats the ultimate team
15 jersey is owned by Cullen, Ben Smith 2nd best
I just had to get B.B in the team!!!
For the TEAM to be "Best Ever"...You MUST have 15 George Nepia (1924 Invincible) 8 Buck Shelford (Legend) 12 Bill Osborne 13 Bruce Roberston 1 Steve Mcdowell (RWC Winner) 5 Colin Meads 6 Micheal Jones.....surely people!!!!
Everyone has their faves! This is just my list - happy it’s sparking lots of discussion! Love the passion!!!
I would drop Barrett for Cullen and swap Kaino with Michael Jones in my personal opion.
Me too the two most naturally gifted players I have ever seen
ultimate means , every All Blacks that wore the jersey has to be taken into account.
@@dinatuapola2262 it’s just my ultimate list…who’s yours?
Formidable team. Coles for Fitzy and question mark over Barrett/Cullen
BB is really good. A tough call there
Christian Cullen & Tana Umaga
Great shouts man!! All quality!
Legendary Cullen all the way ❤
I couldn’t leave B.B out of my team!!! D.C took the no.10 jersey so he had to go at fullback 😛
Not to take away from Read he definitely was an excellent player I just really feel like Zinzan and Ardie are better.
Fair enough! I’ve got an England XV all time vid dropping in a few days - look out!
Sonny Bill Williams? Probably one of the most instinctinve rugby players ever.
Ooh yes what a player! He was on my first draft! 🤕
Owen Franks over Carl Hayman..yeah alright. But, Beauden over Cullen? Cmon mayte…
Also, Keiran Reid for now…Ardie will be up there very soon i reckon.
I just had to get B.B into my team!!!
Sid Going and Ian Jones not mentioned. Jones was the NZ counterpart to John Eales. The locks mentioned aren't up to either of these two greatest locks.
Cullen, kirwan,sonny bill,hayman and michael jones would be my choice
SBW and Cullen were on my first draft! I could leave out B.B so he slotted in at fullback - a bit unconventional I know…
Pretty much agree full back hm Ben Smith may be
Helluva team, seems wrong not having zinzan in but the other fellas not too shabby either.
@@mattjones3361 😂 Yeah might have been a slight oversight not to have Zinzan over Read…I put that right in my latest vid coming out soon…👀
Whoever picked this list needs to find another job. Christian Cullen would DESTROY Beauden Barrentt.
It's my opinion mate. Feel free to disagree! I just couldn't leave Barrett out of this side...
If your talking recent all blacks or within the last decade or so then ur list is good
Yeah more of a modern list really - I can’t really judge how the “legends” stack up to these guys - might have to do a legends vid soon!
This is essentially just the 2015 team lmao
Is it not the greatest All Blacks side ever?
I would have had Will Jordan in 14
Ooosh what a player!
Swap Franks for Hayman Lomu for the Bus and Howlett for sevivatu / jane 15 Barrett / Smith
Prime Jane was so good, greatest fend of all time
Fair play 💪🏻
Great team
No tana😮
Hard to leave out!!!
I glanced at the full team list at the end and didn't bother any more with this video because it's clear that whoever put it together isn't that clever when it comes to rugby. No Christian Cullen? Kaino ahead of Collins? Howlett? Goodbye.
Ciao 👋
Almost the right team, but at fullback should be none other than the Paekakariki Express Christian Cullen
Yeah he missed out on this one...my logic is that Carter was at 10 and i just had to have Barrett in my team...I couldn't leave him out! Maybe I should've done an All Blacks 23 😆
Michael Jones could play 7 or 8. Love Read, but MJ is number 8 in the Dream Team.
Ooh fair play - so much talent it’s a tough one to pick!!!
Barrett at 15 is just wrong, Cullen and Ben Smith were far superior... Cullen being my pick was just legendary.
I just couldn’t leave B.B out of my squad and D.C took the fly half spot!!!
how any of these players were on at the field at the same time? hard to pick players across eras. definitly a more modern team but cant argue with selections
Umaga, meads the rest is Ok maybe the best 15 in rugby union history... i cant imagine another player get in
Oosh 👊🏼
ben smith for barrett
Fair play!! Quality fullback! I just couldn’t leave B.B out 😛
Carl Hayman could be a shout for tighthead also
Yeah I had him in my first draft!
Have to find a place for Michael Jones because the recent bias is too much.
This is more of a modern best - I didn’t factor in “legend” of the all blacks - I just couldn’t judge how good they really were - maybe a “legends” vid is worth a shot
Basically the 2015 RWC team + Lomu 😅
Isn’t the 2015 team the greatest international team ever???
Rip Van Winkle stuff, obviously asleep during 80's and 90's when NZ 100% dominated and best players were unbeatable
This is more of a modern list! I would have to do a “legends” one at some point! What a team though 😛
Bok:
Olo > Franks
Zinzan >> Reid
Cullen >> Barrett
Great shouts!!!
Beaden Barrett doesn’t even make the top 10 fullbacks in ABs history smh
That is outrageous 🤪
He’s favoured at fly half but I have DC in there so had to fit Barrett in there and fullback was my only option
@@rugbybuzz Why did you have to fit Barrett in there? He’s not even top 10 greatest ABs fullbacks, as I said
@@rugbybuzz Cullen, Muliiaina, Nepia, Clarke, Smith, all comfortably greater fullbacks than Barrett, and that’s just off the top of my head
Fair enough mate…we all have an opinion 😎
You have to be joking. Christian Cullen the greatest full back of all time !!!
I just couldn’t leave B.B from my team!
1. Woodcock
2. Fitzpatrick
3. Hayman
4. Retallick
5. Whitelock
6. Kaino
7. McCaw
8. Read
9. Smith
10. Carter
11. Lomu
12. Nonu
13. Umaga
14. Kirwan
15. Cullen
Unlucky to miss out
Franks who has longevity over Hayman but Hayman is the best scrummaging prop of all time on either side from any team.
Jones and Zinny unlucky Jones did play 6 but Kaino was a far better 6. And at 7 the pick is obvious. Zinny and Read is very very debatable I could forgive anyone who picks Zinny over Read.
Ben smith i nearly put at 14 Wilson as well Cullen is clearly the 15 tho so ben misses out and Kirwan was so good people forget how good he was.
As for this video I didnt subscribe because how do you leave out the undisputed GOAT of all 15s from any team ever?
Basically just took all credibility away.
Haha ok mate fair enough! The only reason I left Cullen out was to fit Barrett in my all time XV…he couldn’t get the no.10 jersey so he had to slot in at fullback…controversial, but i just couldn’t leave Barrett out of my list! Maybe I’ll get your sub soon 😎
@rugbybuzz If you wanted Barrett should have done a 23 man team he's easy to argue as a super sub. Impossible for a starting xv.
Not impossible for me 😂 It’s just my dream team!
@@JamesSmith-qr7be ah yes I probably should’ve done a 23…
Do Irish lions next
@@Nicolene-uy1jf gosh that will be a tough one!!! ☝🏼
No Christian Cullen = Never make a AB list again
Exactly.
ok
Just what we need - a Pom telling us what our best xv is. You don’t understand rugby. That team isn’t anywhere near our best xv
@@krishassall2349 who says a “pom” picked this list?
And why attack him this is his opinion, make your own video and see if everyone agrees with you. Why do we have to attack people this was a fun video thanks to the creator
@@brentwithey4241 🙏
Zinzan at 8
8 should be ardie savea
Oooooooh
This is just a silly list. It only has players from the last 15 years apart from Lomu. So many players left out. Colin Meads would probably be the first picked. Much as I love Beauden Barret there’s NO WAY he’s the best fullback to EVER play for NZ, Kirwan would be in before Howlett anyday of the week. I could go on and on and on………
@@SuperEdge67 This is just my list mate. Everyone has an opinion 🤩 Also Howlett played between 2000-07 for the ABs, and Fitzpatrick played between 1986-97 for the ABs. So not just Lomu like you said…Mine is a more “modern” list yes and still the best in my eyes…I could do another series on “legends” and then I’d go waaaay back…not sure where I’d find any decent video footage for that 🫠 Who’s your best AB XV? 🇳🇿
swap cullen at fullback zinny at number 8 and michael jones at 6 and u got the team
Fair play!!! So much talent it’s insane 😎
Thank you for not putting justin marshall at 9
😂
I'd have Mealamu over Fitzpatrick.
💪🏻
Doug Howlett one to not play in a World Cup final ?
Cullen.
You have displayed a remarkable lack of knowledge of anyone before the the previous twenty years. Along with everyone else: where is Cullen?
ah, this is just my list buddy! We all have an opinion! I had to have B.Barrett in there...Carter obviously takes the 10 jersey so B.Barrett has to slot in at fullback...I wouldn't mind Cullen, but I just cannot leave out B.Barrett!
Michael Jones any day over Richard Mc Caw
Ooooooh
Christian Cullen!!!
Yeah I got his name a lot!!!
Hard to leave out but had to get B.B in my team
Zinzanno Zinzan Brooke?! Questionable 👀
I would go for Michael Jones over ZinZan
@@IntergalatikkMichael Jones at 8? To allow Jones and McCaw to be on the field at the same time?
@@UTubeRepossessions Bingo
Hard to leave out!!!
Ok,, the nearly best AB team since the advent of colour tv….
More of a modern list tbh…