An observation I noticed is that when you use the clutch counter though you are unable to be knocked off for a moment you still take damage while you're on during an attack. Notice when he grabbed on during the snowball attack at around 2:50 he still lost some health while he was doing the clutch attack. Not super big but definitely something to keep in mind when you decide to use it.
Pearlspring63 me and my friend two man behemoth. The extreme. Never attempted, that's above my pay grade It really isn't needed Being a "healer" causes people to be lazy, sloppy and rigid. A "tank" can't activate a spell that forces a monster to attack you. All rolls from any other rpg element will disrupt a hunter. The world of monster hunter is unique for players. There's no rules or rolls. It's all about the hunt
And while in clutch claw counter, you still take damage, you just don’t get knocked off. I can’t wait to counter a master rank teo, only to have him Nova while i’m on his face. Lol I know my luck
Lance main here, be very careful when you decide to use Counter Claw - YES you absolutely stay rooted on the monster to wound and it's my main anti-Tigrex tactic BUT when a monster is enraged, shell up or counter thrust only. If you counter claw onto Tigrex's head while he's charging and enraged, chip damage can and will eventually kill you, so position yourself in such a way that the arms hit you
The new lance moves really made the weapon feel more mobile. It’s usually one of my least used weapons, but I’m definitely going to give it some more love come iceborne.
that guard up move just made my day. Now there's actually a difference between using lance and CB and completely makes sense the best shield weapon in the game gets this for free. I love the GL and the CB but I always thought Lance should have guard up as part of the moves to make it truly impenetrable. Now all I need is a rework of the Challenger Mantle so that it taunts the monster and maybe gives you defense up and I would be set for Iceborne, be a true true tank for mp
@@AlpacaZ nope, it simply had a 360° radius, didn't proc a counter inmediately so it could block multiple hits and while it depleted stamina continuously, stamina drop was negated on hit. You receive more chip damage tho.
*IMPORTANT NOTE* you can still strafe guard (hold R2 -> hold R2+L2) to regen stamina while blocking and not messing up your positioning (i asked a streamer to test in the beta) for those of you who don't know why this is a big deal. While guarding and standing still you don't regenerate stamina, but if you move you can regenerate your stamina. However this normally faces in the direction are moving which forces you to either move towards the monster or expose your back/sides to it. but using the strafe guard your hunter will face whatever direction your camera is pointing allowing you to move in any direction while keeping your shield between you and the monster. this is helpful against attacks that have many hits that would normally overwhelm you eg kulve taroths lava pool attack (requires guard up) or when you just need to regenerate stamina or move to the side while guarding.
I've been getting into trouble with this in Iceborne. I tend to hold (L2 + R2) all the time as you say makes your hunter face camera direction. I also like to dash guard (triangle) when a monster attacks to help move hunter to where I anticipate the monster's weak spot will be. However now with Iceborne, L2 + triangle is the Clutch Claw Dive Thrust so I would stupidly try to press (L2 + R2 + triangle) hoping to strafed Dash Guard facing the monster and more often than not Dive Thrust straight into a monster's attack. Gonna need to train myself out of this habit. :/
Can we get a real life Arekkz cooking video for Monster Hunter World? And please mention all the SPICY new additions for surviving the cold in Iceborne
A change I noticed was that when you first enter a normal counter thrust stance, your shield now has the same sound and visual effect on it as the power guard. I haven't personally figured out if this change actually has any tangible effects on the guard though. Have you managed to find a difference in the normal counter thrust guard?
To anyone who runs wide range who has a lance main as a friend help them practice the new guard point. Best way is to consume a stamina restoring item whilst they practice against monsters. Might sound like a waste of resources but if your friend can become better with it, I think it is TOTALLY worth the investment Relevant story but semi-off topic I had a lance main in my squad against Kulve. She ended up getting double lava breath corner pinned. I run Mushroommancer lvl 3 religiously when not using a stamina use reduction horn, popped a devil's blight and she managed to survive that situation.
I am just mad it wil work for CB without any nerfs... Not only it is already popular and overused. GP is damn easy to do and OP already. Variety is nice but 80% of players will be LS/ CB Mains.
3:40 😲 I didn't even notice...shame on me 🙁. But i think there are some unguardable attacks in the beta, like Rathalos flying grapple spin and Anjanath grab/bite thing...🤔 it is going to be a pain to pull it off though 😅
You cant guard those because they're specifically meant to get around guard. You put up a shield, they grab your shield and smash you around like hull while you'rr still strapped to it.
@@Artameful false I have fought anjanath with Lance And is use guard up and I never get grabbed same goes for deviljho Since I got guard up I never been hit out of my guard by any monster
Love these vids bro. Had to come back to iceborne since I’m basically done rise. Bought rise and told myself I would hop in when I’m done iceborne but soon as I played rise I fell in love. But I want to finish iceborne and forgot a bunch of stuff so I came back to ur vids. Thanks for all the work putting these together
@Arekkz with all due respect my man, love that you put out these guide, but why oh why for the love of god you didn't mention a single MKB controls in any of your videos????
It is really nice when the monster is moving and you are not sure to touch him with basic attack and you don't move with this attack so if there is danger in front of you use that
It really depends on what monster with unblockables we're fighting there are some moves that are so easily telegraphed, i think i wouldn't gem in guard up for those and some might not even be punishable with counter anyways
I'm still gonna use it because I'm scared What if teostra supernova blows up faster than I thought and the guard up didn't trigger in time What of at vaal hazaak efluvial beam hit me faster than expected Not gonna take that chance 😂
It's correct from what I've seen, it will have it's limits though. KT's attack will still need guard up, and monsters like deviljho have an unblockable attack that's too quick to use that power guard. But for monsters like vaal and teostra where it's only 1 hit and an obvious tell, it'll work good if it's timed right.
After you grapple a monster you can press y (Xbox top button) to wound the monster. This softens the spot giving your more damage (In many cases making a tough exterior very vulnerable). This interacts with weakness exploit which was changed for iceborne. Now it gives 30% on weakspots and 50% on wounded weakspots. Between the upped affinity and damage you can see why clutch claw is so nice
Does anyone know if the beta will come to Xbox? I've played it on PS4, But my main is on Xbox. Also I don't have a PS4 Pro and compared to the Xbox One X, it just isn't as smooth.
Yah I saw that guard up think I was like it that new what it does? I really REALLY hope it block onblockable the move cost a tone of stamina already and I alwas felt like it should block unblockable just the way the move felt AKA YOU put yourself grounded whit your sheild up and you charge the sheild and it cost a tone of stamina so you can't spam it yah sure the counter is good but it alwas felt like it was kinda just ok insteed of being that move that just block all
What do you mean it didn't get much new things in World? have you ever played lance? or is that just a statement to hype up world? it got the triple thrust into counter back it has guardadvance out of combo and in 4 directions forward step the leaping thrust and the powerguard mechanic which really changed up the playstyle on top of all the other changes in World's powerguard lancing you thrust -> powerguard -> counter, repeat + you have 3 steps and guardadvances into any direction with leaping thrust to do major repositioning really fast out of combo
how the actual do you play with KB&M? that seems like WAAAAAAAY too much work for this game. I Play on PC too but controller is so much easier. I guess its muscle memory from my Freedom Unite days.
HBG with Guard up and Shield mods x3 pretty much becomes lance on steroids, can block any move in the game by standing still lmao. Using it just seems cheap and that you can easily steamroll any monster 1v1, imagine 4 ppl using it in a team like dark side does, gamebreaking lmao
The ,lance had a lot of new additions in World, even before Iceborne. The amazing Power Guard, as well as the Leaping Thrust, both of which are super useful and have become staples of the weapon.
I still think its really stupid that there is a guide for something that isn t even out yet. Loved the days we all got to play the games at the same time
An observation I noticed is that when you use the clutch counter though you are unable to be knocked off for a moment you still take damage while you're on during an attack. Notice when he grabbed on during the snowball attack at around 2:50 he still lost some health while he was doing the clutch attack. Not super big but definitely something to keep in mind when you decide to use it.
I wish they would add a feature that allowed things like lance and gun lance to give some sort of cover for players behind you.
Currently you can only do this vs xino beam attack
Yeah i kinda wish they have that feature, so we can experience what feel to have a "tanker" in mhw
irsyad fata alaidi there's not such thing as "roles" in monster hunter. You're simply a hunter.
Pearlspring63 me and my friend two man behemoth. The extreme. Never attempted, that's above my pay grade
It really isn't needed
Being a "healer" causes people to be lazy, sloppy and rigid.
A "tank" can't activate a spell that forces a monster to attack you.
All rolls from any other rpg element will disrupt a hunter.
The world of monster hunter is unique for players. There's no rules or rolls.
It's all about the hunt
@@TheRockK95 Fear the old blood.
The Dodo lance in the beta might just be monster bits slapped onto an iron frame, but ya gotta admit that the spinning drill tip is pretty dope
PickleJho Lance
3:46 it was at this moment where all lance mains proceeded to lose their shit
Where my PC lance bois at.
Pc lance boy reporting!
Reporting in
Right here
Whatsup brothers
I’m trying this thing out today
And while in clutch claw counter, you still take damage, you just don’t get knocked off. I can’t wait to counter a master rank teo, only to have him Nova while i’m on his face. Lol I know my luck
Learned this the hard way when I clutched to a Brachydios and he dipped his head on the ground and blew me up.
What would happen if you do a slinger burst when clutched on his face while he's charging up his nova? Anyone care to test it?
Attack only works if they hit you with their bodies
You cant counter Claw non physical attacks
Wolverine, Paul. I think you misread my comment. I said Teo would nova while I was on his face, aka after I clutch claw countered another move.
Lance main here, be very careful when you decide to use Counter Claw - YES you absolutely stay rooted on the monster to wound and it's my main anti-Tigrex tactic BUT when a monster is enraged, shell up or counter thrust only. If you counter claw onto Tigrex's head while he's charging and enraged, chip damage can and will eventually kill you, so position yourself in such a way that the arms hit you
I’m on Tigrex right now and, lance hits differently. That shit was just dopamine fused tank.
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The new lance moves really made the weapon feel more mobile. It’s usually one of my least used weapons, but I’m definitely going to give it some more love come iceborne.
I need to see if you can counter claw a Nerg dive xD
That sounds amazing
it is and very fun
You can but you still take damage from it.
Sounds painful
@@CeraphineLuna "For you"
that guard up move just made my day. Now there's actually a difference between using lance and CB and completely makes sense the best shield weapon in the game gets this for free. I love the GL and the CB but I always thought Lance should have guard up as part of the moves to make it truly impenetrable. Now all I need is a rework of the Challenger Mantle so that it taunts the monster and maybe gives you defense up and I would be set for Iceborne, be a true true tank for mp
I'm confused, I always thought the Power Guard had a Guard Up effect...
@@AlpacaZ nope, it simply had a 360° radius, didn't proc a counter inmediately so it could block multiple hits and while it depleted stamina continuously, stamina drop was negated on hit. You receive more chip damage tho.
*IMPORTANT NOTE* you can still strafe guard (hold R2 -> hold R2+L2) to regen stamina while blocking and not messing up your positioning (i asked a streamer to test in the beta)
for those of you who don't know why this is a big deal. While guarding and standing still you don't regenerate stamina, but if you move you can regenerate your stamina. However this normally faces in the direction are moving which forces you to either move towards the monster or expose your back/sides to it. but using the strafe guard your hunter will face whatever direction your camera is pointing allowing you to move in any direction while keeping your shield between you and the monster. this is helpful against attacks that have many hits that would normally overwhelm you eg kulve taroths lava pool attack (requires guard up) or when you just need to regenerate stamina or move to the side while guarding.
It also applies to gunlance
Thank you
@@connorerb2338 Yes! I forgot about that, thanks for mentioning.
I've been getting into trouble with this in Iceborne. I tend to hold (L2 + R2) all the time as you say makes your hunter face camera direction. I also like to dash guard (triangle) when a monster attacks to help move hunter to where I anticipate the monster's weak spot will be.
However now with Iceborne, L2 + triangle is the Clutch Claw Dive Thrust so I would stupidly try to press (L2 + R2 + triangle) hoping to strafed Dash Guard facing the monster and more often than not Dive Thrust straight into a monster's attack. Gonna need to train myself out of this habit. :/
@@MyHealthIsPain it should work if you space out the inputs a tiny bit.
Can we get a real life Arekkz cooking video for Monster Hunter World? And please mention all the SPICY new additions for surviving the cold in Iceborne
Mmmmmmm...So Tasty!
I think guard skill should reduce stamina consumption of power guard too.
Arekkz seems to be saving the best (HH) for last...
Kevadu he already posted the best(cb) first
@@samrein9919 oh absolutely not the best. One of the best, just not as great as the HH
@Space Kid Entertainment *angry doot*
A change I noticed was that when you first enter a normal counter thrust stance, your shield now has the same sound and visual effect on it as the power guard. I haven't personally figured out if this change actually has any tangible effects on the guard though. Have you managed to find a difference in the normal counter thrust guard?
Counter claw is amazing against Tigrex! He so aggressive he basically beat himself hahah!!
And they are adding some sort of offense guard skill, really gonna use Lance into iceborne.
I think light and nimble weapons like SnS or Bow can Tenderize with the clutch claw attack too, but is not always like the heavier ones.
There're times where with a light weapon I could apply wound damage and make it drop pods.
@@nelsonivan9297 i wish i could drop slinger ammo with the lance, flinch shot is so fun, i wish it was a changable thing
I think that if you clutch-claw attack a spot enough with a light weapon it builds up into a wounded area
I absolutely adored the lance with the iceborne additions. feels so right.
To anyone who runs wide range who has a lance main as a friend help them practice the new guard point. Best way is to consume a stamina restoring item whilst they practice against monsters. Might sound like a waste of resources but if your friend can become better with it, I think it is TOTALLY worth the investment
Relevant story but semi-off topic I had a lance main in my squad against Kulve. She ended up getting double lava breath corner pinned. I run Mushroommancer lvl 3 religiously when not using a stamina use reduction horn, popped a devil's blight and she managed to survive that situation.
I know it's a deco/armor skill but the existence of Offensive Guard is going to change everything for a couple weapons.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Offensive Gaurd procs off of the normal counter block (R2 + 0)
@@mindblower8091 Yes it does, i did it a lot in the beta.
I am just mad it wil work for CB without any nerfs...
Not only it is already popular and overused. GP is damn easy to do and OP already.
Variety is nice but 80% of players will be LS/ CB Mains.
0:40 this reminds me of when you get a new ability in Infamous
Switching to regular slinger mode is useful for clutch clawing onto a stunned monster. I think that will be used quite a bit.
really didnt see that guard up coming
I been a lance main since mh for ps2 days back then did a headlock trick
I wonder if that new guard up boost will activate faster if you have focus.
3:00 to 3:02 - you could say it feels CLAWSOME (im not sorry)
Devs: poke poke poke! Dodge Dodge Dodge poke poke poke !
Gamers: more please?
Devs: ~audible sigh~ FINE. Shield grab weaken THEN poke poke poke! Dodge Dodge Dodge poke poke poke! Happy?
Gamers: eh, good enough.
Lance is dope as hell I have a clip of cutting off glavs tail blade with the clutch claw counter in the guiding lands
Claw guard is awesome but you can still take damage so watch that health.
This one move made playing the Lance so satisfying and worth it.
Nice vid Arekkz! Love your channel!
3:40 😲 I didn't even notice...shame on me 🙁.
But i think there are some unguardable attacks in the beta, like Rathalos flying grapple spin and Anjanath grab/bite thing...🤔 it is going to be a pain to pull it off though 😅
You cant guard those because they're specifically meant to get around guard.
You put up a shield, they grab your shield and smash you around like hull while you'rr still strapped to it.
@@Artameful I thought they worked like Jho's grab, and you need Guard Up for that 🤷♂️
@@Artameful false I have fought anjanath with Lance And is use guard up and I never get grabbed same goes for deviljho
Since I got guard up I never been hit out of my guard by any monster
man that is a sexy lance shield set
Love these vids bro. Had to come back to iceborne since I’m basically done rise. Bought rise and told myself I would hop in when I’m done iceborne but soon as I played rise I fell in love. But I want to finish iceborne and forgot a bunch of stuff so I came back to ur vids. Thanks for all the work putting these together
Great video once again sir. Godspeed
did you get a dmg buff on the guard up stance as well? or oist it only for true block
Do we know already if perfect guard's improvement is really a guard up?
Agustí Montes could you let me know if you found the answer to this? I want to get into lance and would like to know if I need to build for guard up.
@@eddysototo Yes. I asked the same on Reddit and it seems to be the case, but tbh I haven't tried yet.
Where my real Lance main Nagas at?
@Arekkz with all due respect my man, love that you put out these guide, but why oh why for the love of god you didn't mention a single MKB controls in any of your videos????
Guard up is one of the few gems i'm missing. so happy i don't need it anymore.
Shoutout to those that are here to learn a tank build in order take punishment from the behemoth for ya team XD
Wowww im so excited the only thing i wanted is a built in guard up !! Thhis is amazing!
can the next guide be on the gl?
FINALLY, LANCE!
lance main hype now, also does counter claw spammable? like you can use it again after using it in short period of time?
So excited for Iceborn
I'm at work bro... I didn't need this kind of erection... ugh.
Can't wait for the full MHW:IB
That's hot
Any Lance main to answer this question please! triangle + circle= Rising Slash, is this move worth to use in any situation?
It is really nice when the monster is moving and you are not sure to touch him with basic attack and you don't move with this attack so if there is danger in front of you use that
That counter claw is siiiiiiiick. I like how the monster throws the hunter in the air lol
is it possible to set the default firing mode in guard shot to the normal slingershot mode?
does the new wymstake move from gunlance reacts to blast and sticky ammo?
It's still worth geming in guard-up bc it allows you to block unblocksbles with a regular guard as opposed to having to use the counter guard stance
It really depends on what monster with unblockables we're fighting
there are some moves that are so easily telegraphed, i think i wouldn't gem in guard up for those
and some might not even be punishable with counter anyways
holy hell free guard up, i farmed a lot for guard up jewel and now its useless and i love it
I'm still gonna use it because I'm scared
What if teostra supernova blows up faster than I thought and the guard up didn't trigger in time
What of at vaal hazaak efluvial beam hit me faster than expected
Not gonna take that chance 😂
Ohhhh mah gawd... I really hope you're correct about the Guard Up boost! That would be a game-changer!
it was in the hunter note i can confirm it
It's correct from what I've seen, it will have it's limits though. KT's attack will still need guard up, and monsters like deviljho have an unblockable attack that's too quick to use that power guard. But for monsters like vaal and teostra where it's only 1 hit and an obvious tell, it'll work good if it's timed right.
@@501DTB Ohh that sounds promising enough man! Thanks for the info
Hey, how do I unlock the optional quests of arena special HR? , I have captured all the possible monsters but some of the quest don't show up
What is the new "wound" thing that was mentioned? Something about heavy weapons creating weak points? If so, how does it work?
After you grapple a monster you can press y (Xbox top button) to wound the monster. This softens the spot giving your more damage (In many cases making a tough exterior very vulnerable).
This interacts with weakness exploit which was changed for iceborne. Now it gives 30% on weakspots and 50% on wounded weakspots. Between the upped affinity and damage you can see why clutch claw is so nice
Alright enough already i pre-ordered the game a while ago lol. cant wait for september
So does it have the guard up skill?
I find myself using r2+l2 to guard and strafe is this still possible in iceborn?
Guys how to use power guard I’m getting to guard stance and just confused how to get into power guard
anyone has trouble performing the backward guard dash on lance on Iceborne for PC?
anyone can confirm now is it true guard up like arekkz said?
With the only confirmed guard-up unblockable attacks being late game pins, it doesn't seem like anyone is really keen on testing.
Anyone else skipping the beta for official release to preserve hype???
Lol no
Fingers crossed for not having to have guard up in my build anymore
Oh yes finally, thee came to thee ultimate defence
Christ bless you, game changer fr
yes!! love lance .
You don’t mention that during counter claw you can still take damage even though you won’t be knocked off, kind of important...
Does anyone know if the beta will come to Xbox? I've played it on PS4, But my main is on Xbox. Also I don't have a PS4 Pro and compared to the Xbox One X, it just isn't as smooth.
I just realized i don't need guard up!
That's one of the best additions honestly.
meektheshy Velkhana’s Breath:
*no*
i've been playing IB Lance and i didn't know this feature! This is INCREDIBLY good to know
Yah I saw that guard up think I was like it that new what it does? I really REALLY hope it block onblockable the move cost a tone of stamina already and I alwas felt like it should block unblockable just the way the move felt AKA YOU put yourself grounded whit your sheild up and you charge the sheild and it cost a tone of stamina so you can't spam it yah sure the counter is good but it alwas felt like it was kinda just ok insteed of being that move that just block all
Is Iceborne out already?
What do you mean it didn't get much new things in World?
have you ever played lance? or is that just a statement to hype up world?
it got the triple thrust into counter back
it has guardadvance out of combo
and in 4 directions
forward step
the leaping thrust
and the powerguard mechanic which really changed up the playstyle on top of all the other changes
in World's powerguard lancing you thrust -> powerguard -> counter, repeat
+ you have 3 steps and guardadvances into any direction with leaping thrust to do major repositioning really fast out of combo
i would appreciate if you also show what mouse and keyboard clicks, not everyones uses controller u know
how the actual do you play with KB&M? that seems like WAAAAAAAY too much work for this game. I Play on PC too but controller is so much easier. I guess its muscle memory from my Freedom Unite days.
@@happosai95 kb and mouse is easier for range weapon for sure but for melee its debatable
Heheh Dash Juice + Guard UP
Kent in tri and tri ultimate I was never with out dash juice in world I never use it. But now I will have to farm it for sure
was, was that a dodogama egg?!
Last night i beat alatreon solo with lance in I’m not a lance main
I just found out there's a counter clutch? Lol. I should really pay attention.
the L O N C E
lance is better than sword and shield since have better pin point weak spot also the guard is more powerful
So custom control guides for everything BUT the Power Guard....? Thanks I guess....
Just when I thought I couldn't love lance anymore than I already do
Aw yeah claw hunter world
2 days left PC Iceborne
Honestly, starting to get a little attached to the Lance.
Im pretty sure i main lance now
HBG with Guard up and Shield mods x3 pretty much becomes lance on steroids, can block any move in the game by standing still lmao. Using it just seems cheap and that you can easily steamroll any monster 1v1, imagine 4 ppl using it in a team like dark side does, gamebreaking lmao
The ,lance had a lot of new additions in World, even before Iceborne. The amazing Power Guard, as well as the Leaping Thrust, both of which are super useful and have become staples of the weapon.
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Noice
Man Gunlance got the shaft compared to Lance. :(
Woot
Watch at x0.75 speed 😊👌🏼
beta already ranout of time u know
I still think its really stupid that there is a guide for something that isn t even out yet. Loved the days we all got to play the games at the same time
"there is one more thing that is the power guard" then proceed to never tell how is actually done, great work.
same way it was always done
First
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