I did the same thing and it worked great. Went about 2 ft deep and filled with foam. Poles (1 inch Galvanized steel, do not use aluminum or conduit. More expensive but extremely sturdy) are as steady and just lasted a tropical storm (took sail down though obviously). My only recommendations: 1) Absolutely wear SAFETY GOGGLES because the foam can will prob backfire and shoot everywhere. Happened twice to me! Fortunately had goggles on. You DONT want this stuff in your eye(s)! 2) It's good to have the poles leaning slightly away, It adds extra support and prevents the poles from bending inward. 3) Drilling the screw holes through the poles was incredibly tough, even on drill bits made for it. Once you see that the bit is tearing up the steel, continue slowly and add pressure.
If you have a metal punch, hammer a dent into where you want the hole and begin drilling with a small bit. Once your through you have a hole that will guide the drill bit you need through the metal without it sliding everywhere and a hole that allows the bit to begin cutting. Go slow. Unless your pressed in some way a metal drill bit used at high speed will melt and it’s effectiveness drops sharply. You can use standard drill bits to do the same job… but ONLY at slow speeds. And there is a risk near the end of the drilling for the grooves to catch on the metal and twist. Even if you go slowly, with a standard bit this is where you can snap a bit if the drill and bit twist. You want to maintain the angle you started drilling at and if that means backing off and trying again. It’s worth it to save you the cost of a broken bit.
This is gold! I've watched a billion you tube videos and pinterest tips and this is the easiest/ cheapest/ fastest and sturdiest looking solution to shade sails out there And I appreciate that you took the time to link the products (even though I cant buy them here in Canada directly, it gives me the specifics to aim for - I can only hope Home Depot here carries this . ). Thanks for your efforts- appreciate it!
Oh I had to update-! the same product at Home Depot in Canada is $129+ 13% tax - ( vs $51 US) I might as well buy the shade sail posts. they're only a bit more. sigh I'll look for a comparative type product first but wow. Its sometimes hard to be a good Canadian shopper
I have got to say that I seriously had my doubts about what you were using for this job! When I saw the metal posts and you with a can of foam......well lets just say if you were my husband you would have had a crazy woman on your hands! I live in an area with high winds part of the year and so maybe I go overboard, but I want what I am doing to last so I don't have to repeat it again. I honestly would have used cement unless I knew it was just temporary! Best wishes and hope you have lots of fun in your yard!
Haha well thank you for sharing. I do agree with you. This was done almost a year ago and it is still holding up just fine. I guess the winds are not too strong out here
Hi much easier to drill the top of the tube BEFORE you put into ground. Also you'd be better off using Post-Lok foam as it pours more easily and surrounds the pole evenly. Just saying!
Hello deanna, It has held up very well. The only thing I would have done differently would be to fill in the pole from the inside with cement to help with the curvature stress. That or would have got myself a taller pole.
Thank you so much! As for the pipes attached into the walls I just simply used a bracket hanger strap. Drilled in the holes into the walls for the screws.
Concrete will always be better and stronger. This foam is pretty strong and long lasting. But I will say that concrete is probably the more dominant choice. So far I am impressed with the foam because it’s a quick way to install things and it holds up very good
I have the horizontal posts that run across the top of the chain link fence, do you think those are strong enough to keep the sail shade from shagging over time or if it would be unable to withstand strong wind?
@@davidlane9724 thanks for the reply bud. Do you think the basketball post will hold up? Its easy to find basketball set ups that ppl thrown out for various reason and i thought maybe those may work.
@@nmjhd1234 I think that would be a better option. I am seeing videos where some folks are using a 4x4 hinged to another 4x4 in the ground. Then they used a ground anchor and ratchet. One of them said that worked for 15 years for his set up.
@@Vectorr66 It actually did. If I were to do this again I would go deeper and maybe a thicker pole. It held very well but I noticed that the pole had a mild curvature under stress. The foam worked very well. Try not to move it while it’s drying up. Any movement will make it lose when it’s officially dry.
All adhesives are meant to completely cure in 72 hrs.(Three Days)... The fence post diameter used is too narrow. Three inch or larger would withstand winds above 25mph the base should be set in concrete with a minimum of 2.5+ ft. deep x 8 inch+ diameter.. hardware needed are turnbuckles and springs 3/16" coated UV cable, hooks & ferrules or clamps.
good job..I'm putting up another one today..I'm in palm springs california area where the wind can get pretty bad..I'm gonna install this one with quick clips to take down when needed.. they last a long time.. the sun is hard on everything out here..
@@michaelmadrid9311 did you do it? How did it go? I live about 2 hours from Palm Springs and I'm wondering if I can do this in my back yard with the strong winds we get.
@@ghannam360 I know right. Building supply prices have skyrocketed this past year. I live in Arizona too so I was going to do something like this in my backyard.
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I did the same thing and it worked great. Went about 2 ft deep and filled with foam. Poles (1 inch Galvanized steel, do not use aluminum or conduit. More expensive but extremely sturdy) are as steady and just lasted a tropical storm (took sail down though obviously). My only recommendations: 1) Absolutely wear SAFETY GOGGLES because the foam can will prob backfire and shoot everywhere. Happened twice to me! Fortunately had goggles on. You DONT want this stuff in your eye(s)! 2) It's good to have the poles leaning slightly away, It adds extra support and prevents the poles from bending inward.
3) Drilling the screw holes through the poles was incredibly tough, even on drill bits made for it. Once you see that the bit is tearing up the steel, continue slowly and add pressure.
I 100% agree with everything in this comment. If I were to do it again I would have done exactly that. Thank you for sharing @ruthlessjblaze
@@ghannam360 thank you for the foam idea! Works great and makes it all removable if necessary.
@@joncocio4995 I’m so happy you loved it!
If you have a metal punch, hammer a dent into where you want the hole and begin drilling with a small bit. Once your through you have a hole that will guide the drill bit you need through the metal without it sliding everywhere and a hole that allows the bit to begin cutting.
Go slow. Unless your pressed in some way a metal drill bit used at high speed will melt and it’s effectiveness drops sharply.
You can use standard drill bits to do the same job… but ONLY at slow speeds. And there is a risk near the end of the drilling for the grooves to catch on the metal and twist. Even if you go slowly, with a standard bit this is where you can snap a bit if the drill and bit twist. You want to maintain the angle you started drilling at and if that means backing off and trying again. It’s worth it to save you the cost of a broken bit.
This is gold! I've watched a billion you tube videos and pinterest tips and this is the easiest/ cheapest/ fastest and sturdiest looking solution to shade sails out there And I appreciate that you took the time to link the products (even though I cant buy them here in Canada directly, it gives me the specifics to aim for - I can only hope Home Depot here carries this . ). Thanks for your efforts- appreciate it!
This comment has made my day. And motivates me to make more videos like this
Oh I had to update-! the same product at Home Depot in Canada is $129+ 13% tax - ( vs $51 US) I might as well buy the shade sail posts. they're only a bit more. sigh I'll look for a comparative type product first but wow. Its sometimes hard to be a good Canadian shopper
That is a steep increase in price. I’m wishing you the best of luck
What is the length of the pole
I would definitely recommend using a fast acting cement instead of foam.
Yup, definitely. There's enough crap in the environment.
This was an amazing video find. Are the poles still sturdy? Please let me know!
Hope you don't get any wind!
This is what I needed! Want to do a sail shade but nothing to attach to. This helps a lot!
I'm so glad!
I have been looking for an easy and cheap way to do it. Glad I find your video. Thanks for sharing
Other comments are very helpful too. Thanks
tried this once for my rv, only lasted a season, too light of poles and hardware but is fine for smallet usage, my 2cents. nice video
thank you for the feed back. I do agree with you.
I have got to say that I seriously had my doubts about what you were using for this job! When I saw the metal posts and you with a can of foam......well lets just say if you were my husband you would have had a crazy woman on your hands! I live in an area with high winds part of the year and so maybe I go overboard, but I want what I am doing to last so I don't have to repeat it again. I honestly would have used cement unless I knew it was just temporary! Best wishes and hope you have lots of fun in your yard!
Haha well thank you for sharing. I do agree with you. This was done almost a year ago and it is still holding up just fine. I guess the winds are not too strong out here
Hi much easier to drill the top of the tube BEFORE you put into ground. Also you'd be better off using Post-Lok foam as it pours more easily and surrounds the pole evenly. Just saying!
I agree on both statements. 100% something I would consider doing next time around
How deep and wide did you make the hole? Did it hold up over winter and strong wind?
May I ask what size post you used for the part you attached to the brick wall, and what size straps?
For that I used a standard electrical pipe. I think it was 5/8.
Shade was a 20x20x20
@@ghannam360 Thanks, I appreciate your response!
How as it held up in storms?
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Great idea using the foam tight. What size pipe diameter did you use?
This was actually a 2 inch pipe. If I were to do it again I would try out the 3 inch pipe
@@ghannam360 why you would try 3” pipe? Is 2” not strong enough?
How has it held up? Has the pole behind the grill shifted? Would you do anything different?
Hello deanna, It has held up very well. The only thing I would have done differently would be to fill in the pole from the inside with cement to help with the curvature stress. That or would have got myself a taller pole.
Great job! Can I ask what did you use to help attach the pipe onto the wall?
Thank you so much! As for the pipes attached into the walls I just simply used a bracket hanger strap. Drilled in the holes into the walls for the screws.
@@ghannam360 got it, thanks!!
I think you figured out the least expensive way to do the poles. Are they still holding up well?
Haha yes I agree. I wasn’t down to spend more than that.
They are holding up just fine. Fingers crossed
@@ghannam360 thanks for this video...checking in a year later - how are they holding up?
Awesome, exactly what I needed to know. Thanks
I approve of your energy drink lol
U should do something with the bare metal. Maybe put some vines on it or do a design
That is a great idea. We started with painting it silver. Might add some artsy stuff to it
Does that foam work as well as concrete?
Concrete will always be better and stronger. This foam is pretty strong and long lasting. But I will say that concrete is probably the more dominant choice.
So far I am impressed with the foam because it’s a quick way to install things and it holds up very good
that pole pulled out yet ?
Great video! How deep did you bury the pole?
1.5-2 feet deep.
Just seeing this, how had it held up after a few months?
It did well actually
Nice lightning rod
That’s what she said 😉
Nice job 👍
Thank you !
Is it still holding up?
@@Gen10civic still holding up. Monsoon season is coming up here in AZ.
Is that the chain link fence post that you use? How is it holding up?
I have the horizontal posts that run across the top of the chain link fence, do you think those are strong enough to keep the sail shade from shagging over time or if it would be unable to withstand strong wind?
@@nmjhd1234 I can tell you no from experience. Mine sun shade sags the post. I’m going with a much sturdier post when I find one
@@davidlane9724 thanks for the reply bud. Do you think the basketball post will hold up? Its easy to find basketball set ups that ppl thrown out for various reason and i thought maybe those may work.
@@nmjhd1234 I think that would be a better option. I am seeing videos where some folks are using a 4x4 hinged to another 4x4 in the ground. Then they used a ground anchor and ratchet. One of them said that worked for 15 years for his set up.
How is the sail doing? Did it hold up to wind?
It’s holding up very well actually. Definitely something I’ll be doing again
@@ghannam360 thanks for the video. Did the foam really hold up? I need to install 2 pipes like that and thought I would need cement. Thanks!
@@Vectorr66 It actually did. If I were to do this again I would go deeper and maybe a thicker pole. It held very well but I noticed that the pole had a mild curvature under stress. The foam worked very well. Try not to move it while it’s drying up. Any movement will make it lose when it’s officially dry.
@@ghannam360 Awesome thanks! I. Thinking of putting an insert in first for 2.5 inch pole so I can take out.
@@Vectorr66 oh so you can take it in and out when ever you want ?
Yes you did a great job thanks for all your hard work
What are the pieces called that u used to brace the poles to the wall?
They are called a pipe strap. Make sure you secure them in with a good washer
Where did you find the post at
In the description below the video I have a link for all materials needed
@@ghannam360 thanks
All adhesives are meant to completely cure in 72 hrs.(Three Days)... The fence post diameter used is too narrow. Three inch or larger would withstand winds above 25mph the base should be set in concrete with a minimum of 2.5+ ft. deep x 8 inch+ diameter.. hardware needed are turnbuckles and springs 3/16" coated UV cable, hooks & ferrules or clamps.
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Minimum pipe size recommended is 4" schedule 40. Buried 40% down . No way will yours hold up.
Dude.. it’s still holding up strong
Your recommended specs seem waaay off for most soils and climates.
No way this thing lasts in windy thunderstorm. Those corners can have up to 2000lb up draft force.
Make it thick enough and deep enough. I am confident you’ll be fine. They are still holding up here in AZ.
good job..I'm putting up another one today..I'm in palm springs california area where the wind can get pretty bad..I'm gonna install this one with quick clips to take down when needed.. they last a long time.. the sun is hard on everything out here..
@@michaelmadrid9311 Any chance you can let me know how it goes? I am excited for you man
@@ghannam360 absolutely...
@@michaelmadrid9311 did you do it? How did it go? I live about 2 hours from Palm Springs and I'm wondering if I can do this in my back yard with the strong winds we get.
lucky you dont have clay soil. im jealous
Do you think it doesn’t work in clay soil ?
It’s just so hard to dig a hole in clay soil.
NICE BUT……It would never work in FL, is all sand.
2:08 pole too small, hole too small, hardware too light for the size of the sail. Wind will eventually tearup the sail or bend the pole.
Why you mad bro ?
Those pipes have almost doubled in price now.
Thats insane man... I should probably change the title now haha
@@ghannam360 I know right. Building supply prices have skyrocketed this past year. I live in Arizona too so I was going to do something like this in my backyard.
Same. Live in az as well
Thank Biden for that. 😩
Child in need of supervision.
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