One of the most important things for a man is to be able to speak what’s on are mind and not hold in all are emotions. I’m glad he has someone special that can be there for him when he needs it the most.
@@Cussy69_420 he never said it didn’t apply to woman. But it’s obvious why he didn’t feel the need to say ‘women’ and that’s because they are already known to speak their emotions already, whereas men usually don’t speak up.
No one cares. Men are "provide or die" like Chris Rock said, only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are terrified of this world and that's how we end up so estranged and sad. And still. No one gives a fuck.
The problem is, that mentality was created by men for men. Men need to fight to change those standards and teach their sons, brothers, friends, and strangers
@@stalinsbutterflythere are different levels to messing up. Beating your partner is a pretty huge f*ck up compared to others. I don’t think you can just call it a mistake-especially since he is still failing to take accountability and is still fighting her in court and “losing” evidence.
I know next to nothing about Mia Goth, and I walked away from this interview with the utmost respect for her. The story Shia told about their reconciliation was the most touching thing I have ever heard. May God continue to bless them.
I can relate with him very much, friends/family/partners can only tolerate so much. When he starts tearing and talking about Mia, that moment when he looks down I know this feeling ans it's heart breaking, being helpless, pushing everyone away specially that one at the top of the list, putting them through he'll, lies and shit and they still show up and find time. This resonates so much it leaves in a feeling that there is and will be hope for me or anyone else struggling. 🙏
@@BLVN7SYeah and you've never messed up in your life I bet you have no regrets...news flash, nobody is perfect. And trust me, he'll regret it every day he lives and you trying to make people hate him ain't going to make you feel better.
Hard not to get emotional watching this because it’s raw and unfiltered sadness happiness guilt self-worth salvation and a few other things all mixed in one story. The fact that none of his family came and then his wife was there for him when he was most vulnerable and kept him going, that’s something as a man I hope to find one day, someone who won’t just be there for the good times but when I’m at my lowest of lows
How anyone can watch this and not be moved to tears is beyond me...this is like seeing the real shia for the first time...becoming a parent and spouse changes you..it makes you love someone more then yourself...and that is an extremely powerful motivator people...I believe him..that he has changed and am so happy for him and Mia and their baby..I wish them every happiness the world can offer
"The ministry of presence." Reminded me of a true story my father told me of a time he was hurting. His Father had just passed away, and he had no one else in the family that was really there for him. He thought it best to press on through his emotions and continue working (he was a welder back then). During lunch, he sat down, alone. He was in pain. Not crying or anything, but you can just tell when someone is going through it. This lady he worked with sat down next to him because she knew what had happened, and just stayed there. My dad bawled his eyes out, and they didn't speak a word to each other. When the break was over, he just said "Thank you" and they both went on their way. Sometimes, we don't need someone to give us a solution, a statistic, a study or something that has "worked for everyone". We just need them. People. I'll never take the people in my life for granted.
When you bottle things up and you live in a way that prevents you from facing your faults and short comings. You lose all sense of reality, that’s a very dangerous thing. I truly hope Shia is staying strong and keeping true to himself.
Damn man..Jon just letting Shia let it all out..Great interview and great to know we got Shia back..Man gotta talk too doesn’t matter what kind of situation is going on..
As a recovering alcoholic, a working alcoholic I burned a lot of bridges and my behavior that I experienced during my binges hurt a lot of people. Lost my killer job, got duis back to back to back. It's tough to deal with but when people and family make time to not worry about what you've burned. It's incredibly life altering to see who's still around you. Much love and respect for Shia. Stay up brother 🙏 I feel your pain.
Recovering addict going on a few years. I can never express or repay my gratitude to my family. I put them through absolute hell. My parents having to bear the burden of knowing they're probably going to have to bury their son. Stealing from my sisters. Only coming around when I needed money for drugs. I don't deserve my family, I know that, but I'm eternally grateful for them. No matter what I did, there they were. Never gave up and I know they wanted to. Every time I said I wanted help, my parents were the first to drive me there knowing I was probably going to check myself out but hoping that this was the time it stuck. I shouldn't have lived past my mid 20s, here I am alive at 31. Now I have an absolutely amazing job I never thought I'd be able to hold. I am actually happy to wake up most mornings now and I owe it all to my family. Congrats on you're sobriety my friend. Hope you live a long and happy life.
@crackerjackrappr I too spent my 20s partying and drinking it up. Now at 33 I can definitely relate to your story. It's humbling on all levels no doubt. The length we go when we're going thru it is probably the hardest thing to have to deal with but in the end. We're still here and I am grateful for you taking the time out of your night to tell me your story and to wish me all the best. I wish you nothing but many blessing and a Long happy healthy life my friend. 🤙👊
I met Shia two years ago in Vegas when I was at work. This guy was the absolute nicest guy ever to me and my co-workers. Polite, respectful, friendly. I know he's got some shit going on in his life for years, but he's still human. I hope nothing but the best for him.
I love my dad, mama, my sister, my siblings, my nieces my nephews, my cousins etc. The ministry of presence. The wonderful people who never have in, gave way or gave up.
I had a friend that went through drug addiction and went to a facility for 60 days to get some treatment. She went through hell the first week and we went to see her when allowed. The thing is after her last day she basically disappeared from all of us ...then after some weeks go by she suddenly rang the doorbell and we were all hugging her and the tears flowed. She hasn't relapsed and is taking care of herself for her family. Proud of you girl.
I went through a pretty bad divorce while deployed to Afghanistan. Replacement dude moved in like a week before I left. None of my friends really reached out to me while I was there. It was probably the lowest point I was ever at in life. So low that there were many nights my muzzle rested in my mouth just to end the pain. I had one friend, my roommate that helped me through it. Even when I had to move FOBs, I would travel back as often as I could just to spend a few hours with him. Being around him gave me hope for a future. I greatly empathize with what Shia is reflecting on because it feels like we don't deserve that kindness when we are at our worst.
Agreed. The Bernthal interview with Joe Rogan where he's talking about what it means to be a true friend is really powerful. There's a clip of it online. Everyone needs a real friend in their life to help guide.
I think it's awesome Shia has come so far, and acknowledges he's got work to do yet. I think it's awesome Jon is there for Shia, and in a very passive way, gives Shia a way to let these things go. Most of all, I think it's awesome Mia was able to overcome her own personal trauma to just be there for Shia, even if everything inside her was screaming. That's incredible personal strength. Good on ya, girl.
Shia's personal life is no business of ours. But him sharing this is something we should treat with all the respect in the world. I'm a nobody when it comes to acting, but I recognize this agony and hope (as f'd up as that may sound) in his acting. Thanks for sharing - you too JB.
When you finally admit you need guidance/ help in your life for whatever it may be going on in your life in your mind and soul, no matter what it strengthens you up inside if you have someone that loves you there to hold your hand in your mind I didn’t, but I did it, and I wish this young man all the respect and all the strength that he can gather, and that he needs for the rest of his life.and to everyone out there no matter what if you’re true to yourself you find that path that will take you in the right direction. This is the truth. Respect to you all.
I feel this man’s pain, my wife saved my life, God put her in my life to remind me that i deserve to be happy. Solitude is like a cancer, often not visible but it kills you inside. To get emotionally naked like this is sometimes good I commend him, I could never do that, I don’t know how. Wish this man the very best and may God give him the fortitude to keep pushing forward…….remember if all goes south brother I CANT CALL IT will always be the way….
Sober almost 10 months before my birthday, therapy and parenting classes. This interview touched my heart, I still don’t have a lot friends around and get lonely. I focus on my Son and hope someday there is someone there to be around for me
Shia you are not alone Brotha! You are loved and appreciated. Most of us have our demons . We get rid of those demons! We our the beautiful angels of light🙌🏼
He's done a lot of ish but my understanding of him, any man, has got to be limited. I'm a woman, most women are inherently equipped with skills and abilities that make you understand other people. Better equipped than a man, generally speaking of course. BUT. I'm not a man, I have no idea how it feels to be a man, everything that goes on inside a man... I can only understand what's communicated, body and verbal language say some things, not everything. That I know from just human experience.
@@Kookabrah I haven't spoken to everyone to find out. At a guess I'd say at some point most people break off a relationship which causes emotional hurt so yes. I don't entirely know what exactly happened with Shia but I'm assuming you mean physical hurt, in which case I'd say no. But I don't think anyone gets out without making a mistake.
@@Kookabrah I do think everyone has hurt someone. Have you met someone who has gotten through life without doing so? I’m a woman too. I’ve seen my mother torture my father (and herself) and know women are very much capable of causing hurt. Look around at comments all over youtube and in real life; suddenly everyone is a self-diagnosed victim of a narcissistic abuse. 15 years ago we weren’t living in today’s pro-“no contact” culture, where we trust a person’s self report of “narcs” in their family, often the “narcissist mother” trope is reinforced and perpetuated by the masses of people who empathize and submit to this new cultural logic of identifying as a victim of narcissistic abuse. I’m being somewhat facetious here, but my point stands: how many female commenters are so quick to drag their family background/the dynamics of their family of origin as an easier solution to the problems we all face being human? A solution that is reassuring to our own egos, telling eachother and ourselves that we are not the one at fault, it is our upbringing, our “narc” parent, the expectation of “unpaid emotional labor” - we’ve medicalized the language of family dynamics, of human nature, to such a point that they have begun to lose clinical significance in terms of psychological treatment, and you find yourself suddenly in a world where all your clients are repeating what they believe to be therapy terminology that they picked up from some hack with a youtube channel, telling people what they want to hear, which is that they themselves bear no responsibility in interpersonal relationships besides setting boundaries with another party and if they trespass those bounds (regardless of relationship; all the same whether it is your mother or your husband or your casual friend) your only option is to “go NC” - non-contact - with the spouse or parent or sibling. I know i’ve gotten off the topic, but I feel that the idea that there are people who exist (assumedly tilting female in demographic terms) who can go through their lives never hurting others. From a psychologist’s POV, this seems to me to be rooted in the same poor self-exculpatory logic as the “find the narc” phenomenon that has been growing in recent years, to the point of becoming common parlance for a client _coming in_ to therapy for the first time, with no personal background or study in this field beyond a youtube influencer psych education. If you never hurt another person in this life you are a perpetual victim, because human life is full of suffering and because our species is a fundamentally communal system. So long as we interact with others, a person will inevitably hurt and be hurt in the due course of ones lifetime. The key is taking personal responsibility where it is due, acknowledging that we are all tainted by sin and are in that way by our very nature doomed to imperfection. Doomed to be hurt, and doomed to hurt others. There are no perfect men or women who don’t make mistakes, who can get out of this life without having harmed another in some way (granted they survive beyond the age of reason and live to adulthood, of course). This doesn’t mean there is not a perpetrator and a victim in cases of abuse; it does mean though that we must take responsibility for what we have control over-our own conduct, our own relationships with others. I worry for those who are so taken with contemporary trends of outsourcing all blame to one scapegoated family member as in the case of the many people coming to therapy with issues of their own that - so long as they are encouraged to name and shame problematic family members as pathological in themselves - they do not and cannot have the eyes to see, because they are too blinded by hyperfocus on the misconduct of others. we are all human, we all err; more importantly, we don’t always even recognize it when we do and the results-the hurting another person-is hidden before one’s very own eyes. Think again to the type of person for whom everyone else in their life is an irredeemable narcissist: with such a mentality, the one who is likely to bear the brunt of such conduct is the person’s child or children. Imagine being so preoccupied with the ways in which you were wronged in childhood by your mother that you begin to not see how you are, in doing so, reproducing the same dynamics in front of and for your own child who is immersed in this victimhood narrative of the mother, a child whose emotions seem less important therein, in hearing endless enumeration of perceived wrongs that were perpetrated by mother’s “narc” family before the child was even born, that they now have to bear for their ever-suffering mother. In a few years we will reap the rotten fruits of this family grievance culture, a crude exaggeration of freudian thought that the same types of people would have mocked were it not repackaged for mass consumption and adclick revenue on youtube. It’s a perverse distortion of reality, a scientistic excuse to dispense with what we know of human nature and structural family relations based in an appeal to the ego (hey, you are just a victim! never mind that if you were to go to a psychotherapist, it would not be your mother who would be diagnosed with a personality disorder but you yourself - but that’s the old way of thought! now things are easier; people are good or bad, victims or abusers, either guilty of hurting others or totally innocent, a person who makes mistakes or a victim of those mistakes (therein rendering the victim discursively incompetent to make such mistakes themselves! didnt you hear me? i said im the VICTIM of narcissists, that means i’m not one! if my boyfriend abuses me, i am the victim of abuse and therefore exculpated of having to consider myself as a potential perpetrator!). If you can find me a counter-example of someone (short of Christ lol) living to adulthood without sinning against others and causing someone else significant pain, i’d love to see it :-)
I have an immense amount of respect for this man. Came through Disney as a child actor, up and coming top tier billed actor and he walked away from everything and came out the other side a better person.
Everyone has the potential for a true redemption experience in life...let Shia go through his journey, share his raw thoughts and let him do the work on himself without negativity from people. We are all one circumstance, one decision away from being Shai....From needing kindness and grace to atone, repent, better our family's lives...whatever your specific situation may be. Be kind and give grace.
I agree with you, he fucked up hard, and he should be held accountible ( SA and his other allegations are very bad and should not be overlooked) but I think u can see by this whole interview that he is a deeply flawed person, but knows he's done horrible stuff yet wants to do the right thing, and I think that's great. I like to believe people can become better (not always good but better human beings).
You look healthy and I hope you stay that way. I've felt the same way almost everyday. I don't deserve it. I don't deserve it. You do deserve it bro. Stay well
@@ExpertAssass1n So your hero is a wife beater that is now a better person because he sincerely apologized and went through rehab? WTF is wrong with people hahahahaha
Love is God, and God is Love. This is the same as the Grace God has for us, it is not earned, it is not deserved, God's Grace is the Love given to us freely and undeservedly.
This guy is still my inspiration. He is not into the Hollywood thing. He sticks up for family. He's broke but hes healing himself. God bless her and him. 🙏
my gosh im crying... I lost the love of my life because I wasn't willing to talk about my problems and I left her not because I didn't love her but because I thought it was the right way to protect her because I thought I wasn't good enough, there was a better man waiting for her somewhere, I was sure of that. The last sentence she said was: “One word and I’ll stay with you.” I did not say anything... Now, more than a year later, I also realized that I wasn't interested in anyone else because that was her and there was no one else who was there for me, without me noticing, she was always there. She taught me empathy, unfortunately I only realized that with the last sentence when she was gone. So guys, talk is worth its weight in gold, words are worth more than actions, but combined with actions, words are the way to go in a relationship because a relationship means facing life together and not alone. Shia realized it probl. in the last moment, but he take this moment. love this guy for this.
I am late to the BERNTHAL as podcaster yet will be an avid listener/ watcher/ sharer now. Do you see the way he holds SHIA with his eye contact with no interruptions? That is compassion mastery right there. I have watched these fine actors roles but this was next level. I am going to happily consume THE REAL ONES now!
I don’t think Shia is a bad guy. He’s made a lot of bad choices and how he treated Twigs and Mia was really bad, but after seeing this, I truly believe he’s a good man that’s made a lot of bad decisions. I respect Jon for interviewing Shia
Just. Being. Present. No words. Just people who truly love you despite YOU. The strongest and loudest words in a room are those not spoken. Just be there for people. They don’t need your words. They just need you…
Hes not wrong people. My friend was in a very deep and dark place consuming alcohol nearly every day. I tried my best to talk him through it suggested therapy many many times. He finally looked at me and said "man, this is my therapy. I just meed you here, with me, during this. I will come arpund one day." And sure enough he did. Took him about two years. Im grateful that I could be there for him, and its important to have someone like that in your life.
Damn.. Shiea hurting me right now.. never put my hands on a woman but I know the pain of no one being there through your shit… the ministry of presence.. although you don’t know me, this interview was a ministry of presence.. you’re helping people man.. straight up.
I understand what shia is saying I can relate to,sometimes I feel like nobody even likes me but then I realize that there people who actually care and those are the people you trust.
I’ve been there too, abandoned and without help, support, guidance etc. Only one thing got me through, myself and refusing to give up and cave in. You will find the path to better days I can promise you that just as long as you refuse to go down. Temporary pain for long term gain
I've been in his shoes. Not for the same reasons. Mine was just drugs and severing my connection with my family out of shame. The only person who believed in me died next to me in a car accident, 15 days after I returned home to make things right. You really get some intense perspective, when you find out somebody was waiting for you and all they got to see was that you had turned a significant page. I'm still far from what I can be. And I won't rest until the day I die now, just to honor that one person who truly believed in me, when I knew nobody should.
same thing happened to me on my first workshop. You would open your eyes, and a loved one should be there looking at you. I must have had me eyes closed for almost an hour, when i finally got the go to open, it was a staff. It was not a rehab, but a workshop for emotional trauma. I fell you bro.
The most famous person in the rehab, a world famous actor and NOBODY shows up for him?? 🥹 This poor broken, lonely man. My heart is breaking and I’m so happy he found God. Bless him
That was bone crushingly honest. A potentially big lesson for anyone watching. Us men need to connect more with our vulnerabilities. Brings us closer to ourselves and the people around us.
Such a talented actor. But he is human too we all have emotions that sometimes get out of control. He is giving you his realest side of him. I commend him for allowing us to see just because they are rich and famous doesn't mean they don't go through hell like the rest of us do. I will keep him in my prayers ❤❤
My man Jon bernthal nearly in tears over his story and what he had to share. Real friend.
That's because John knows the struggle of the real world so he gets what Shia is feeling
You do know he's a professional actor right?
Fuckin guy is nearly in tears during every conversation
@@liamwalpole9415 You know he is also human right?
@@AjdamusMagnus he also breathes air, just thought I'd let you know mate 👍
One of the most important things for a man is to be able to speak what’s on are mind and not hold in all are emotions. I’m glad he has someone special that can be there for him when he needs it the most.
*our
Not are
@@Marc-io8qm “um… it’s actually our, not ‘are’🤓👆🏼”
True! But doesn't this apply to women too? Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you, but for women it's the same, right?
@@Cussy69_420 he never said it didn’t apply to woman. But it’s obvious why he didn’t feel the need to say ‘women’ and that’s because they are already known to speak their emotions already, whereas men usually don’t speak up.
I think he wanted to say their
Healing is beautiful and the ability to be honest and find your words is part of that beauty.
Shia is the proof that men need to be able to express their thoughts and feelings and not be afraid as being seen as "weak".
Yeah but he’s willingly making a change, men are weak if our mindset is “woe is me”
@@AmirHussain-bi2vx this is true
No one cares. Men are "provide or die" like Chris Rock said, only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are terrified of this world and that's how we end up so estranged and sad. And still. No one gives a fuck.
The problem is, that mentality was created by men for men. Men need to fight to change those standards and teach their sons, brothers, friends, and strangers
Fuck you the guy is a ms 13 he ain’t on that soft shit 😂
Shia’s experience is so powerful. I’m so happy for him, Mia, and their growing family. That’s true love. Tough love.
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
@@BLVN7S Why are you gonna comment shit when nobody cares?
@@BLVN7S when you EVENTUALLY fk up in life, remember your reply to this quote. And act according to your quote.
@@stalinsbutterfly I've fucked up plenty but I've never put a hand on a significant other
@@stalinsbutterflythere are different levels to messing up. Beating your partner is a pretty huge f*ck up compared to others. I don’t think you can just call it a mistake-especially since he is still failing to take accountability and is still fighting her in court and “losing” evidence.
Real talk. Not sugar coating anything, he’s just being real. Love his attitude and positivity
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
@@BLVN7S you gonna keep saying the same thing to every comment?
@@Vic-Valentine It's the same shit on a few other comments. Gotta be a bot.
“you heard her voice, she’s like a fucking angel, know what i mean?”
it genuinely warms my heart how much he respects mia
Who is Mia?
@@stephenstuckey His wife, actress Mia Goth
@@joshmorris1637the girl from X and Pearl?? Damn I had no idea they were married
And her voice is truly angelic.
I know next to nothing about Mia Goth, and I walked away from this interview with the utmost respect for her. The story Shia told about their reconciliation was the most touching thing I have ever heard. May God continue to bless them.
XXX Pearl and MaXXine
A REAL woman helps her man heal
It’s truly heroic to hit rock bottom and choose to believe you are worth saving
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
@@BLVN7S Looks like he divided her skull
@@BLVN7Swell he said rock bottom
I can relate with him very much, friends/family/partners can only tolerate so much. When he starts tearing and talking about Mia, that moment when he looks down I know this feeling ans it's heart breaking, being helpless, pushing everyone away specially that one at the top of the list, putting them through he'll, lies and shit and they still show up and find time. This resonates so much it leaves in a feeling that there is and will be hope for me or anyone else struggling. 🙏
Never lose hope friend...because we all fall down..its in the getting back up that we find true salvation and freedom...I will show up for you...
Are you doing better?
Already seen the whole interview, but this scene still gets to me.😭🙏👍
He made the Punisher cry.....
the woman he almost beat to death was crying too
@@BLVN7SYeah and you've never messed up in your life I bet you have no regrets...news flash, nobody is perfect. And trust me, he'll regret it every day he lives and you trying to make people hate him ain't going to make you feel better.
Cus Punisher knows whats up when it comes down to family stuff.
@@horizon2288 you can "mess up" a thousand times over and still not beat someone to death lmao
@@BLVN7Sall that matters is Mia forgave him and is working with him to be better
Jon just sitting there and listening and letting Shia get it all out without interrupting is beautiful
Hard not to get emotional watching this because it’s raw and unfiltered sadness happiness guilt self-worth salvation and a few other things all mixed in one story. The fact that none of his family came and then his wife was there for him when he was most vulnerable and kept him going, that’s something as a man I hope to find one day, someone who won’t just be there for the good times but when I’m at my lowest of lows
How anyone can watch this and not be moved to tears is beyond me...this is like seeing the real shia for the first time...becoming a parent and spouse changes you..it makes you love someone more then yourself...and that is an extremely powerful motivator people...I believe him..that he has changed and am so happy for him and Mia and their baby..I wish them every happiness the world can offer
Wait I just foound out they have a child. Are Shia and Mia back together again?
@@akshayamanivannan yes they are married and have a beautiful little girl
It’s called acting bitch
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
What's up with his fake mexican accent?
"The ministry of presence." Reminded me of a true story my father told me of a time he was hurting. His Father had just passed away, and he had no one else in the family that was really there for him. He thought it best to press on through his emotions and continue working (he was a welder back then). During lunch, he sat down, alone. He was in pain. Not crying or anything, but you can just tell when someone is going through it. This lady he worked with sat down next to him because she knew what had happened, and just stayed there. My dad bawled his eyes out, and they didn't speak a word to each other. When the break was over, he just said "Thank you" and they both went on their way. Sometimes, we don't need someone to give us a solution, a statistic, a study or something that has "worked for everyone". We just need them. People. I'll never take the people in my life for granted.
I really liked this story..
I hope your father feels better now!
🌻🙂
Pure unfiltered emotion. Well done for letting it out Shia.
My all respect for JB specially that how he never interrupt, but all listening and understanding, men needs to express and to listen to. So 👏 Bravo!
Wow this is so raw and powerful
When you bottle things up and you live in a way that prevents you from facing your faults and short comings. You lose all sense of reality, that’s a very dangerous thing. I truly hope Shia is staying strong and keeping true to himself.
Damn man..Jon just letting Shia let it all out..Great interview and great to know we got Shia back..Man gotta talk too doesn’t matter what kind of situation is going on..
I appreciate how vulnerable Shia is. I know where he's coming from.
The ministry of presence… So well said Shia… I admire you so much as a man and an actor…
泣けた… Shiaの心に触れた気がして、美しさと強さを感じた。
As a recovering alcoholic, a working alcoholic I burned a lot of bridges and my behavior that I experienced during my binges hurt a lot of people. Lost my killer job, got duis back to back to back. It's tough to deal with but when people and family make time to not worry about what you've burned. It's incredibly life altering to see who's still around you. Much love and respect for Shia. Stay up brother 🙏 I feel your pain.
Recovering addict going on a few years. I can never express or repay my gratitude to my family. I put them through absolute hell. My parents having to bear the burden of knowing they're probably going to have to bury their son. Stealing from my sisters. Only coming around when I needed money for drugs. I don't deserve my family, I know that, but I'm eternally grateful for them. No matter what I did, there they were. Never gave up and I know they wanted to. Every time I said I wanted help, my parents were the first to drive me there knowing I was probably going to check myself out but hoping that this was the time it stuck. I shouldn't have lived past my mid 20s, here I am alive at 31. Now I have an absolutely amazing job I never thought I'd be able to hold. I am actually happy to wake up most mornings now and I owe it all to my family.
Congrats on you're sobriety my friend. Hope you live a long and happy life.
@crackerjackrappr I too spent my 20s partying and drinking it up. Now at 33 I can definitely relate to your story. It's humbling on all levels no doubt. The length we go when we're going thru it is probably the hardest thing to have to deal with but in the end. We're still here and I am grateful for you taking the time out of your night to tell me your story and to wish me all the best. I wish you nothing but many blessing and a Long happy healthy life my friend. 🤙👊
I met Shia two years ago in Vegas when I was at work. This guy was the absolute nicest guy ever to me and my co-workers. Polite, respectful, friendly. I know he's got some shit going on in his life for years, but he's still human. I hope nothing but the best for him.
3:30 I like this “the ministry of presence”
I love this dude he’s just a human for real
I love these heart to heart talks between men it’s rare. The rawness and openness it’s really beautiful.
I love my dad, mama, my sister, my siblings, my nieces my nephews, my cousins etc.
The ministry of presence. The wonderful people who never have in, gave way or gave up.
i love this dude alot, This is the best interview ever, God Bless this dude to change his life around... You'll never see an interview this authentic
Every time I watch this I cry like a baby.
Talk about some heart. ❤
I hope he's still doing well & fighting the good fight.
Good talk man 👍👍I respect this guy for putting it out there.
Mad respect brother, when i was at my lowest and willing to go, I was sent a angel who saved my life, I thank God everyday for she
We hear you, We Feel you, We Understand you. Don’t lose sight of the horizons. No one will ever know if we don’t speak. Respect.
Most beautiful words…the ministry of presence
I had a friend that went through drug addiction and went to a facility for 60 days to get some treatment. She went through hell the first week and we went to see her when allowed. The thing is after her last day she basically disappeared from all of us ...then after some weeks go by she suddenly rang the doorbell and we were all hugging her and the tears flowed. She hasn't relapsed and is taking care of herself for her family. Proud of you girl.
Mad love and respect for Shia !!!
Realest person in Hollywood.
We all need a friend like Jon Bernthal
I went through a pretty bad divorce while deployed to Afghanistan. Replacement dude moved in like a week before I left. None of my friends really reached out to me while I was there. It was probably the lowest point I was ever at in life. So low that there were many nights my muzzle rested in my mouth just to end the pain.
I had one friend, my roommate that helped me through it. Even when I had to move FOBs, I would travel back as often as I could just to spend a few hours with him. Being around him gave me hope for a future.
I greatly empathize with what Shia is reflecting on because it feels like we don't deserve that kindness when we are at our worst.
We as men need to come together.
Agreed. The Bernthal interview with Joe Rogan where he's talking about what it means to be a true friend is really powerful. There's a clip of it online. Everyone needs a real friend in their life to help guide.
I think it's awesome Shia has come so far, and acknowledges he's got work to do yet. I think it's awesome Jon is there for Shia, and in a very passive way, gives Shia a way to let these things go.
Most of all, I think it's awesome Mia was able to overcome her own personal trauma to just be there for Shia, even if everything inside her was screaming. That's incredible personal strength.
Good on ya, girl.
Thank you for this...
Shia's personal life is no business of ours. But him sharing this is something we should treat with all the respect in the world. I'm a nobody when it comes to acting, but I recognize this agony and hope (as f'd up as that may sound) in his acting. Thanks for sharing - you too JB.
When you finally admit you need guidance/ help in your life for whatever it may be going on in your life in your mind and soul, no matter what it strengthens you up inside if you have someone that loves you there to hold your hand in your mind I didn’t, but I did it, and I wish this young man all the respect and all the strength that he can gather, and that he needs for the rest of his life.and to everyone out there no matter what if you’re true to yourself you find that path that will take you in the right direction. This is the truth. Respect to you all.
I highly suggest that everyone watches the full interview!
I feel this man’s pain, my wife saved my life, God put her in my life to remind me that i deserve to be happy. Solitude is like a cancer, often not visible but it kills you inside. To get emotionally naked like this is sometimes good I commend him, I could never do that, I don’t know how. Wish this man the very best and may God give him the fortitude to keep pushing forward…….remember if all goes south brother I CANT CALL IT will always be the way….
Sober almost 10 months before my birthday, therapy and parenting classes. This interview touched my heart, I still don’t have a lot friends around and get lonely. I focus on my Son and hope someday there is someone there to be around for me
Love man! All the love! Keep on healing
Shia you are not alone Brotha! You are loved and appreciated. Most of us have our demons . We get rid of those demons! We our the beautiful angels of light🙌🏼
This guy has made mistakes but it's hard not to love real people.
He's done a lot of ish but my understanding of him, any man, has got to be limited. I'm a woman, most women are inherently equipped with skills and abilities that make you understand other people. Better equipped than a man, generally speaking of course. BUT. I'm not a man, I have no idea how it feels to be a man, everything that goes on inside a man... I can only understand what's communicated, body and verbal language say some things, not everything. That I know from just human experience.
No one gets away from life without making mistakes.
@@TaxemicFanatic Do you think everyone has hurt someone/people at some point in their life?
@@Kookabrah I haven't spoken to everyone to find out. At a guess I'd say at some point most people break off a relationship which causes emotional hurt so yes. I don't entirely know what exactly happened with Shia but I'm assuming you mean physical hurt, in which case I'd say no. But I don't think anyone gets out without making a mistake.
@@Kookabrah I do think everyone has hurt someone. Have you met someone who has gotten through life without doing so?
I’m a woman too. I’ve seen my mother torture my father (and herself) and know women are very much capable of causing hurt. Look around at comments all over youtube and in real life; suddenly everyone is a self-diagnosed victim of a narcissistic abuse. 15 years ago we weren’t living in today’s pro-“no contact” culture, where we trust a person’s self report of “narcs” in their family, often the “narcissist mother” trope is reinforced and perpetuated by the masses of people who empathize and submit to this new cultural logic of identifying as a victim of narcissistic abuse. I’m being somewhat facetious here, but my point stands: how many female commenters are so quick to drag their family background/the dynamics of their family of origin as an easier solution to the problems we all face being human? A solution that is reassuring to our own egos, telling eachother and ourselves that we are not the one at fault, it is our upbringing, our “narc” parent, the expectation of “unpaid emotional labor” - we’ve medicalized the language of family dynamics, of human nature, to such a point that they have begun to lose clinical significance in terms of psychological treatment, and you find yourself suddenly in a world where all your clients are repeating what they believe to be therapy terminology that they picked up from some hack with a youtube channel, telling people what they want to hear, which is that they themselves bear no responsibility in interpersonal relationships besides setting boundaries with another party and if they trespass those bounds (regardless of relationship; all the same whether it is your mother or your husband or your casual friend) your only option is to “go NC” - non-contact - with the spouse or parent or sibling. I know i’ve gotten off the topic, but I feel that the idea that there are people who exist (assumedly tilting female in demographic terms) who can go through their lives never hurting others. From a psychologist’s POV, this seems to me to be rooted in the same poor self-exculpatory logic as the “find the narc” phenomenon that has been growing in recent years, to the point of becoming common parlance for a client _coming in_ to therapy for the first time, with no personal background or study in this field beyond a youtube influencer psych education. If you never hurt another person in this life you are a perpetual victim, because human life is full of suffering and because our species is a fundamentally communal system. So long as we interact with others, a person will inevitably hurt and be hurt in the due course of ones lifetime. The key is taking personal responsibility where it is due, acknowledging that we are all tainted by sin and are in that way by our very nature doomed to imperfection. Doomed to be hurt, and doomed to hurt others. There are no perfect men or women who don’t make mistakes, who can get out of this life without having harmed another in some way (granted they survive beyond the age of reason and live to adulthood, of course). This doesn’t mean there is not a perpetrator and a victim in cases of abuse; it does mean though that we must take responsibility for what we have control over-our own conduct, our own relationships with others. I worry for those who are so taken with contemporary trends of outsourcing all blame to one scapegoated family member as in the case of the many people coming to therapy with issues of their own that - so long as they are encouraged to name and shame problematic family members as pathological in themselves - they do not and cannot have the eyes to see, because they are too blinded by hyperfocus on the misconduct of others. we are all human, we all err; more importantly, we don’t always even recognize it when we do and the results-the hurting another person-is hidden before one’s very own eyes.
Think again to the type of person for whom everyone else in their life is an irredeemable narcissist: with such a mentality, the one who is likely to bear the brunt of such conduct is the person’s child or children. Imagine being so preoccupied with the ways in which you were wronged in childhood by your mother that you begin to not see how you are, in doing so, reproducing the same dynamics in front of and for your own child who is immersed in this victimhood narrative of the mother, a child whose emotions seem less important therein, in hearing endless enumeration of perceived wrongs that were perpetrated by mother’s “narc” family before the child was even born, that they now have to bear for their ever-suffering mother. In a few years we will reap the rotten fruits of this family grievance culture, a crude exaggeration of freudian thought that the same types of people would have mocked were it not repackaged for mass consumption and adclick revenue on youtube. It’s a perverse distortion of reality, a scientistic excuse to dispense with what we know of human nature and structural family relations based in an appeal to the ego (hey, you are just a victim! never mind that if you were to go to a psychotherapist, it would not be your mother who would be diagnosed with a personality disorder but you yourself - but that’s the old way of thought! now things are easier; people are good or bad, victims or abusers, either guilty of hurting others or totally innocent, a person who makes mistakes or a victim of those mistakes (therein rendering the victim discursively incompetent to make such mistakes themselves! didnt you hear me? i said im the VICTIM of narcissists, that means i’m not one! if my boyfriend abuses me, i am the victim of abuse and therefore exculpated of having to consider myself as a potential perpetrator!).
If you can find me a counter-example of someone (short of Christ lol) living to adulthood without sinning against others and causing someone else significant pain, i’d love to see it :-)
I have an immense amount of respect for this man. Came through Disney as a child actor, up and coming top tier billed actor and he walked away from everything and came out the other side a better person.
damn dont cry often but seeing someone feel like this kinda hit home,
Everyone has the potential for a true redemption experience in life...let Shia go through his journey, share his raw thoughts and let him do the work on himself without negativity from people. We are all one circumstance, one decision away from being Shai....From needing kindness and grace to atone, repent, better our family's lives...whatever your specific situation may be. Be kind and give grace.
I agree with you, he fucked up hard, and he should be held accountible ( SA and his other allegations are very bad and should not be overlooked) but I think u can see by this whole interview that he is a deeply flawed person, but knows he's done horrible stuff yet wants to do the right thing, and I think that's great. I like to believe people can become better (not always good but better human beings).
This got me balling my eyes out I can feel other people's pain and heartache
You look healthy and I hope you stay that way. I've felt the same way almost everyday. I don't deserve it. I don't deserve it. You do deserve it bro. Stay well
Shia is legit my hero. Like I grew up w him with Even Steven and I'm going thru the same stuff now. It's so hard. I just wanna meet you man.
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
@BLVN7S he also sincerely apologized, went to rehab and all this crap, he got his deserved cancelation, and came out a better person.
@@ExpertAssass1n"he also sincerely apologized"
I just spit out my drink laughing at that so thank you lol
@Accountfella8267 it sounds dumb I know. If you watch the Jon Bertenthal interview, you'll know what I mean.
@@ExpertAssass1n So your hero is a wife beater that is now a better person because he sincerely apologized and went through rehab? WTF is wrong with people hahahahaha
Love is God, and God is Love. This is the same as the Grace God has for us, it is not earned, it is not deserved, God's Grace is the Love given to us freely and undeservedly.
This guy is still my inspiration. He is not into the Hollywood thing. He sticks up for family. He's broke but hes healing himself. God bless her and him. 🙏
Mia is quite a human being, a magnanimous soul
Tears aren't weakness ... its release ... freedom from the worst enemy... ourselves. Blessed be x
❤❤😭😭😭i can feel that love omg that is beautiful!!
my gosh im crying...
I lost the love of my life because I wasn't willing to talk about my problems and I left her not because I didn't love her but because I thought it was the right way to protect her because I thought I wasn't good enough, there was a better man waiting for her somewhere, I was sure of that.
The last sentence she said was: “One word and I’ll stay with you.”
I did not say anything...
Now, more than a year later, I also realized that I wasn't interested in anyone else because that was her and there was no one else who was there for me,
without me noticing, she was always there.
She taught me empathy, unfortunately I only realized that with the last sentence when she was gone.
So guys, talk is worth its weight in gold, words are worth more than actions, but combined with actions, words are the way to go in a relationship because a relationship means facing life together and not alone.
Shia realized it probl. in the last moment, but he take this moment. love this guy for this.
I am late to the BERNTHAL as podcaster yet will be an avid listener/ watcher/ sharer now. Do you see the way he holds SHIA with his eye contact with no interruptions? That is compassion mastery right there. I have watched these fine actors roles but this was next level. I am going to happily consume THE REAL ONES now!
I've always been a huge fan of Shia! Such a special talent. Commitment to his roles in a way that rivals Daniel Day Lewis.
The level to which he is able to articulate that period of time in his life is a direct reflection of just how INTENSE things were for him then💯 Wow🔥
I know exactly where’s he’s coming from , I sincerely hope he finds peace and lives a long happy healthy life 👍👍👍
I have seen Shia Lebeouf's journey for a long time since I first saw him in Transformers 2007.
I don’t think Shia is a bad guy. He’s made a lot of bad choices and how he treated Twigs and Mia was really bad, but after seeing this, I truly believe he’s a good man that’s made a lot of bad decisions. I respect Jon for interviewing Shia
This is heartbreaking, sending much love his way,,people make mistakes, life is hard,,,
Just. Being. Present.
No words. Just people who truly love you despite YOU.
The strongest and loudest words in a room are those not spoken.
Just be there for people. They don’t need your words. They just need you…
Its ok to be crying, especially for your fam and loss. I cry from time to time.
Hang In There Kid!!! You are A good Man!!!!! May god Bless You
Hes not wrong people. My friend was in a very deep and dark place consuming alcohol nearly every day. I tried my best to talk him through it suggested therapy many many times. He finally looked at me and said "man, this is my therapy. I just meed you here, with me, during this. I will come arpund one day." And sure enough he did. Took him about two years. Im grateful that I could be there for him, and its important to have someone like that in your life.
Bless you Shia. Walk on the light Sir.
Damn.. Shiea hurting me right now.. never put my hands on a woman but I know the pain of no one being there through your shit… the ministry of presence.. although you don’t know me, this interview was a ministry of presence.. you’re helping people man.. straight up.
He made me cry ❤
This is enough to make a grown man cry.
Just betas
I understand what shia is saying I can relate to,sometimes I feel like nobody even likes me but then I realize that there people who actually care and those are the people you trust.
Feel it Shia 😥 We heal when we speak honestly brother......thanks for this Jon Bernthal 🙏
I'm at one of my life's toughest and saddest moments, and no one is there for me. This gave me hope.
I’ve been there too, abandoned and without help, support, guidance etc. Only one thing got me through, myself and refusing to give up and cave in. You will find the path to better days I can promise you that just as long as you refuse to go down. Temporary pain for long term gain
Shia's ER episode in season 6 is really really good too. Child star, talented kid, I'm glad he's here now.
when you see a tough man cry, you must shut up look at him and just listen
....no comments no ur opinion, he will ask when his time is there for it
I've been in his shoes. Not for the same reasons. Mine was just drugs and severing my connection with my family out of shame. The only person who believed in me died next to me in a car accident, 15 days after I returned home to make things right. You really get some intense perspective, when you find out somebody was waiting for you and all they got to see was that you had turned a significant page. I'm still far from what I can be. And I won't rest until the day I die now, just to honor that one person who truly believed in me, when I knew nobody should.
🥲 Shia, has done some growing up. Well done. We all deserve forgiveness when we hold ourselves accountable.
This broke me. Beautiful
Jon is the real one. Having real conversations with people. Good job shia
Jon and Shia forever man i love these 2 guys
same thing happened to me on my first workshop. You would open your eyes, and a loved one should be there looking at you. I must have had me eyes closed for almost an hour, when i finally got the go to open, it was a staff. It was not a rehab, but a workshop for emotional trauma. I fell you bro.
Harder than "just do it" speech, really glad he is getting better
The most famous person in the rehab, a world famous actor and NOBODY shows up for him?? 🥹
This poor broken, lonely man. My heart is breaking and I’m so happy he found God.
Bless him
This man has been though so much. I pray, Shia, that you find the peace you so desperately deserve 🙏💪🏻❤
you know he beat a ex gf so badly she has brain damage?
Something about Shia and how he speaks hits differently
Jon is the real one! Shia every time I hear this, I hear your heart! Don't let Hollywood change the real person you are.
I'd be there for you SHIA!!! GREAT TALK!!! BR/// MAXIMILIAN FROM ESTOCOLMO SWEDEN
That was bone crushingly honest. A potentially big lesson for anyone watching. Us men need to connect more with our vulnerabilities. Brings us closer to ourselves and the people around us.
Such a talented actor. But he is human too we all have emotions that sometimes get out of control. He is giving you his realest side of him. I commend him for allowing us to see just because they are rich and famous doesn't mean they don't go through hell like the rest of us do. I will keep him in my prayers ❤❤
The pressure of being tough on a man is ridiculous but even more so when they show their softer emotions.
I love this story so so much.