"Being a friend is not about turning your back on somebody when they do something that you find deplorable or disgusting, your job as a friend is to make sure they don't do it again." - Jon Bernthal. Amazing quote.
@@boingo388 Well depends, sure most americans have this weird take not to protect or care for their family and friends. But in other parts of the world such as in my culture we don't have that.
@@XenagarD because most Americans don’t have real problems, and so all their problems are continuously self-inflicted, and it is hard to stand by someone after so many times, even family
@@garrettbaratheon567 Americans don't have real problems? No real jobs that pay a living wage. No jobs with reasonable work hours and benefits? Can't get access to healthcare, education, affordable housing, etc... Police murdering people on the streets. Politicians fighting to make women second class citizens again. Plenty of real problems.
That full interview with Shia as well as Shia’s interview with Bishop Barron are so raw and honest. He owned his mistakes and trying to make things right with the people he hurt. He made no excuses or looking for a typical Hollywood “slap on the wrist” outcome. Shia never tried to make himself the victim and I have mad respect for Shia on that because that’s owning your mistakes.
Yeah, I do praise him for that because there’s so many guys that would do what he did and not own up to it. That tells me that you know he knows his mistake. He regrets it he’s really showing remorse. You know that he knows he probably I need to help, and that is refreshing because again that some guys I’ll do that stuff and try to sit there and act like they did nothing wrong. At least he’s only up to what he did. I mean I’ve seen some stories I’m happy people are not giving them a hard time because I’ve seen some celebrities apologize for things they made mistakes for and they still get punished for it and still sit there and bash and I think that’s fucked up. They say apologize I mean I know some slow is apologize and I don’t really mean it I understand that, but my thing is this you need to realize how hard it is to apologize to the world, I’m not perfect. They do the same things as we do they make mistakes. Yeah but it was Larry Owens up to the mistakes and apologize for the Julisa bashing them they shouldn’t have to. You know make it when they make mistakes should have a room in their life for a career.
He's also a psycho trying to convince people he's gonna do better. Someone like him will never do better. It's the wife beater mentality. It's a manipulation tactic. It never actually gets better.
Jon, I listened to the Shia podcast. I was married to a mentally-emotionally abusive alcoholic for 15 years. I was sexually assaulted as a teen and young adult. Listening to Shia, a man who struggles deeply and has injured others just as deeply, but who also acknowledges who and what he has been and done, takes complete ownership to these injuries, but is trying desperately to be a better man… gave me hope. People can change. People can heal. People can choose better ways. Changing the mindset takes hard work. God is bigger than all of us. And forgiveness is important. I appreciate that you took a risk with Shia. I hope more injures people listen to what he explains. Thank you.
I have also been in a few emotionally/physically abusive relationships, one of which was really bad and ended up with them being arrested. I stayed with that person for a while afterwards (generally not the right decision) but I ended up losing all the trust I initially carried for them and diving into a brutal depression that forced me to end it. I am still friends with this person. Why? Because they made an effort to be better and while it wasn’t enough to save the relationship, this is still a human being I care for. People who know this criticize me but they’re just a product of the colorless, grayscale-less world we live in. Everybody can be evil. And why we should definitely call out when someone is doing wrong, we should also permit them the ability to understand what they’ve done wrong and allow them to change. It’s kind of how screaming at a dog and kicking it out of the house isn’t going to train it to not jump on guests. Canceling people isn’t going to address the problem, it just promotes fear and gives people an excuse to witch hunt any person they don’t like. Abuse is obviously not okay. But instead of permanently excommunicating abusers from society, we should be more adamant on rehabilitation so that they improve. Sure, there’s some people who are always going to be problematic. But most people act in ways they have seen demonstrated to them as okay and society should work on conditioning those people to become better. Does Hollywood actually give a shit about abuse or rape? Obviously not. It’s all extra credit performative bullshit.
The podcast with Shia was so raw and emotional. Shia didn't make excuses, he didn't sugar coat his persona. He put it all on the table. One of the best podcasts I've see. I hope he continues to do the work necessary to better himself.
Nothing’s wrong with Shia, there’s no man in the world that just hits or knocks around his woman. Women do or say a lot of nasty stuff to men but always men’s actions or words highlighted. No one even asks Shia why he did that and what was the reason
@@TM-MDX stupid comment. Shia said in the interview multiple times that there was and is something wrong with him and that he was in the wrong. In part that’s what made the interview special. Why would you justify abusive behaviour when the abuser themselves don’t?
It's called respect for your guests. Not alot of interviewers have it. They tend to cut you off during the answer to their questions which pisses me off. If I was being interviewed If they interrupted me 2 times I'd stop em and say do you want to hear this or not? They do it again I'd walk off. As an interviewer show respect to those who take their time to do the interview. And respect the person asking you the questions. It's not rocket science.
I watched that interview and I feel that Jon made the best decision by doing it and airing it. It was the most genuine authentic and humble thing I have ever seen. It is going to save many lives. These guys are the true definition of men and what beautiful pure core characters these guys have. I am so blown away with how truly impactful this was and will be for years to come. Very honored to have seen it and been positively moved to my core by its authenticity and rawness. The courage is still giving me chills deep to the soul.
The Shia interview is probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen in my life... Just the raw honesty and the coming to terms without zero judgement is what the world needs... Jon Bernthal is a great interviewer...
His interview with Shia is probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen in my life. Just the raw honesty and the coming to terms without zero judgement is what the world needs.
He's an ACTOR. His whole life is him lying to your faces. People hate those that tell the truth and shatter their worldviews. This guy is playing a role right in front of your faces.
He said that "acting" was necessary to his friend's survival. Nothing more pretentious and less "solid' has ever been uttered... Hollywood is full of themselves and out of touch. "Acting" isn't necessary to anyone's survival. Hell, it's not even necessary at all.
He's acting. This guy is just another rich kid who became famous because of his parents nepotism. Don't fall for the act. People hate reading the truth.
Joe is such a phenomenal listener, it’s incredible really how he lets his guests just speak and he reciprocates so calmly and when it’s his turn. Much respect.
@@jayjones2017I don’t this it’s glazing at all. He has the biggest platform for podcasts. & if most other ppl that had the chance to sit down with half the ppl he has on his show they would be cutting those guests off all the time, mid sentence to ask something the public would wanna hear the second the guest starts saying anything controversial or related to anything that would make a headline or thumbnail. He’s one of the only people with limelight & power for the most part that ( US )-the PEOPLE should respect & honestly be grateful that we have. Because there’s some important guests he has on that shed light on topics that aren’t getting media attention correctly or ppl that are having backlash in the media sometimes, that are getting blackmailed by the ppl running those corporations & ALL the information & media in the country. He’s literally like the only platform where ppl can talk about REAL Shit going on in the world. & he’s the only one that’s SO BIG & has push.. so much so that the government is tight & max about it because he’s the only platform that they can’t really cancel… which is fuckin scary. Because if it was up the them.. they would have been canceled him already but they can’t. We should ALL be concerned about how ALL of us have phones on on us 24/7 to the point that they’re practically APART of OUR BODY & IDENTITY. Which nobody thinks about bc it’s been programmed in our daily lives now for over a decade. So now u & me & everyone else feels like we’re naked or a part of us is missing when u can’t find your phone.. right? So then think about how since it’s pretty much apart of our body & everyday life like we have our own individual mind & then your phone as well. BUT … “THEY” control everything on your phone. There not much in the media that’s not being controlled by the elites. If they cancel Rogan, then they can cancel anything else they u can think of. When you’re as big as he is & they shut u down, then I truly believe NWO is REALLY right around the corner dawg
An honor to have watched Jon’s podcast with Shia. Shia seemed so tired, aged and haggard. He was just so raw, an open soul, gosh it was powerful, he seemed genuinely appreciative of someone that had experience what he was experiencing and letting him know there were other ways, better ways through the journey and burdens he was carrying. To know that you must own your screw-ups, to learn from those lessons, that Yes there are better choices to make that will allow you to start healing. It seemed that he came to understand and realized that he needed to put in the work for/to recovery. I believe that he came to understand that Failure was no longer an option. Once you bring a child into this world, you no longer live for yourself. G-d has given you/us many precious things utmost - children. Your friendship with Shia is yet another gift. Again - Thank you Jon and Shia. May G-d continue to Bless Both You.
@@ericpeterson1000amen to this^ - bailing on someone based on an accusation… “I want to show you what a real friend is” well you totally fucking failed dude 😂
Most people see people like this as annoying or arrogant and push them away. I try to help people all the time with mindset because I broke through a lot on my own, and many people just say I think i'm better than them. Majority of people don't want to change and are stubborn as hell with any advice.
"Your job as a friend, when your friend does something deplorable, is not to leave them. Your job is to make sure they won't do it again." Well put Jon.
I think having him on after the accusations was a great idea bc people grow and learn from their past mistakes and having him on as a friend and giving him a chance to speak for himself was very important. I would say as long as he isn’t that person anymore then he can move forward from that. So thank you Jon for being a friend to him and making sure he’s learning and healing from that state in his life
this is such an important message ! a good man can inspire a bad one to change. i was heartbroken when i found out about Shia’s allegations. i met him when we were kids and in hindsight saw a kid who had a world of pressure on him to give give give everything he had to entertain others. and he did so brilliantly. what he did to hurt others later on was wrong and should be addressed, not be forgotten - but he does truly deserve help because i full-heartedly believe he is beyond capable and worthy of rehabilitation. and imagine how many others he could inspire to do the same x
I did the same thing! I thought he would ruin it and went in skeptical. Watched episode 1 and binged watched the rest of the season in 2 days. He absolutely killed it and owned that role!
As a woman who suffered sexual abuse and now a social worker.. I whole heartedly agree that these men need someone to lead them and guide them too… there is an awful lot of resources for victims .. but not the other way around and a lot of times these perpetrators are victims of abuse themselves… and some carry it out in there lives and some don’t…I know that may sound weird coming from me but it’s true
Respect to you for saying this! Its easy to assign a victim and a perpetrator but what many fail to realize is that both parties are usually in need of some help. So easy to forget that we're all human here and a lot of us are dealing with some pretty serious internal conflicts.
Many focus on the perceived lack of justice around these types of issues, and while that should definitely be a major concern, I sometimes feel like we should also consider the virtue of mercy as well, and how in many ways it can be forgotten about in these scenarios. Obviously mercy isn't something that should come cheaply or automatically, it is something that should be offered to those willing to open themselves to it if they are truly striving to turn from their wrongful ways. I read something somewhere that went like this: justice and mercy are two parts of one whole. Justice without mercy can become injustice in the same way that mercy without justice can.
@Noran Micholas I agree with the idea that both parties are in need of help. We saw that most recently with the Depp and Heard trials. Both parties were guilty of a lot of unkindness and poor behaviour towards each other. I don't get that vibe from Shia's story (but will accept the info we have is very limited). Sometimes there IS a victim and a perpetrator. Perpetrators still need help, but in a very different way. And it's generally true that they only seem interested in help once they are caught/exposed, which isn't true for victims.
Just had one of my friends reach out to me today to check on me and tell me he’s proud of me for taking care of my mental health after my Mom and dog died. Meant the world to me, even though I’m in a good place and doing well. The fact that he cares enough about where my mindset is at says volumes of the type of person he is. Having good people in your corner is empowering
You're friend sounds ride or die. I don't know how do losing only one. Do you believe in God? What's your mind? Just so when have deal with it, don't want to be useless.
If you have "mental health" issues shouldn't you book an counseling session? I believe that everyone should go see a counselor at least once a year for a mental tune-up. This should be part of your yearly physical. People also should book an appointment for a massage and chiropractor each year.
What a good dude. His interview with Shia was outstanding. He really opened up and was painfully honest. I love the fact that Jon let him talk and didnt interrupt him. Thats rare
For those that haven't seen the Jon's podcast episode with Shia, it may be the single most honest and impactful interview I've ever listened to. There are moments from that conversation that I'll take to my grave and I highly recommend it to everyone.
I saw that Conan and Joey Diaz and now Jon Bernthal and everyone irrelevant has a podcast now and thought it's just band wagon fodder, but I respect Jon for risking something
What in the world is with the heavy bootlicking, are most these comment sections AI generated? Y’all are just saying the same shit. This whole comment section is just an echo chamber
As a woman that’s been in physically, mentally and emotionally abusive relationships…, I truly appreciated the interview with Shia and Jon. So much so I shared it to my Facebook page. It was enlightening, remarkable and healing (for me) in its own way.
Relationships? Plural? Instead being a victim maybe try taking accountability and chose better partners for one. Two, what are YOU doing that multiple men are physically/emotionally abusing you. most ppl don’t start hitting ppl for no reason. Not saying it’s right or deserved but sometimes you can learn from your own actions. I don’t believe your completely innocent.
@@boosterstephanie5700 they love victimhood. They scream victim from the rooftops. That’s why #metoo happened. These women willingly slept with nasty men like Weinstein to get roles. They gave away their pussy for roles and money then acted like victims like they were taken advantage of but true is the victims are the women who got morals and said no to ppl like Weinstein and didn’t get the roles. Crazy fucking world we live in.
@@ZukMyZik hmm interesting response to my comment. I commented on the interview and my appreciation for the raw and vulnerable conversation. No where in my comments did I say I was a victim, did I place blame or point a finger. Maybe look at what my comment brought up in you? 🤔🤷🏼♀️ While the interview is specifically speaking to romantic relationships, my comment was non specific. Family and friends can be abusive as well, just for the record. There’s a lot of assumption in your comment. Assuming I haven’t done any self work, healing work, etc. when in fact you have no idea what I may or may not have done/worked on in this regard. For the sake of anyone else reading this, yes responsibility needs to be taken for the situations and relationships we accept/put ourselves in, stay in. And, the only persons actions I can control are my own. In as much as I accept responsibility for staying in situations/relationships that were abusive…, they have their own responsibility in accepting they choose to respond how they did. I do believe those responses were based on their own trauma and issues around them, just as me staying was a response to my own unhealed traumas at that time…and it’s their responsibility to do their own healing around that and not put it on another. Similar to your comment now. Something I said triggered something in you in such a way you felt it necessary to respond to a stranger on TH-cam. And comment in such a way that assumes you know anything about me. No questions were asked of me, no inquiry into anything. It sounds like you jumped to some conclusions, without any real knowledge of me or my relationships, and commented as though your thoughts are accurate in some way. Perhaps that’s something you want to examine more within yourself? 🤷🏼♀️Perhaps not? Either way, best to you.
You're a decent human being Jon! A living example of a true friend. If more people behaved like you did towards Shia, the world would be a better place ♥️ keep being you, no matter what the critics say. "Only that which comes from love is real."
This is why Joe is so freaking awesome! Doesn’t feel the need to interrupt or interject. Ten minutes of listening with hardly a word. He just creates an environment conducive to honest open dialogue
I, being sober over 33 years in AA, felt that the interview with Shia was absolutely amazing. Because there was no real judgment or shame coming from Jon. Just a broken man, pouring out his life in front of a microphone and camera to a friend. It was extremely powerful.
agree; i think about that interview often. And of course I recommended it to my parents both old tymers in the program; Shia’s raw emotion was : It’s not about quitting drinking, it’s that you want to live more than you want to drink. I feel sorry that Shia like a lot of us, don’t see our sensitivity as a strength and try and find ways to cope with that soft heart; It is actually his (our) strength-
Thank you Jon for having him on your show, I have watched your interview with him at least 20 times. We are not defined by our mistakes and only a true friend would stand in the dark with a man like this.
The key word around that interview is redemption. So many people make excuses instead of taking accountability and making amends, so it's honestly refreshing and inspiring. The world needs more examples like that. That and it taught people about real masculinity. Beautiful.
The interview with Shia is my favorite interview Jon's done since he started his podcast. It was the most real and just raw emotional conversation I've heard in a long time on so many different subjects. The awareness Shia had of his choices and decisions up to that point were shocking to hear. Jon was amazing at mediating and being a real friend.
It was interesting to listen to, partly because it was impossible to tell what was bullshit. Shia saying something to the effect of "I was seeing everything in life as an opportunity for performance, but I'm not doing that any more" while delivering what could easily just be another performance made it very difficult to believe anything he said. A bit of a boy who cried wolf situation he's put himself in with his constant bullshit. I'm not even sure I believe his accent is real.
@@LightninLew the reason for his evolution was because of him becoming a father and finding religion. It's just a natural part of growing up, i don't think he was being pretentious at all.
"Being a friend is not about turning your back on somebody when they do something you find deplorable... your job as a friend is to make sure they don't do it again" wow that really struck me.
Jon, I watched the entirety of that Shia interview. You displayed amazing emotional intelligence, compassion and sensitivity. As a woman, it is incredibly healing and uplifting to listen to a man who has gone thru his own transformationally redemptive process. There is only one man who ever actually apologized to me for his abuse. One. People who are critical of your interviewing him fall in one of two basic categories IMO: (1) they have never gone thru a fall from grace and had to go thru repentance and redemption (2) they have never taken responsibility for their own mistakes and choose to remain bitter and unforgiving towards others. True self-examination and self-responsibility bring humility and repentance for mistakes made. The journey of being a 'successful' human being is to experience victorious redemption through humility and atonement. AND... 7.4 MILLION people watched that interview... so who are this handful of critics? Who cares.... Both you and Shia gave a great gift to a portion of this human family. Love, joy, peace, Maria t
A friend like he's talking about you can only hope or pray for these days. And I hope that I'm that friend for my friends. What Jon said about help for men that are emotionally out of control really hit me. Men seem to have to know everything and hold it all together without any training or help, and then if something goes wrong you're done and labeled useless. It's an all or nothing world, without any room for mistakes anymore, this is why you have those friends to check you.
Every couple of months I have mini panic attacks. I think it’s because I don’t feel free enough. Constantly working. Drinking too much, barley spending time on things I like. I forget about it until one day it hits me and I damn near start crying
@@kiezersosay49 People seem to use the word "friend" to mean everything from casual acquaintance to platonic soulmate 🤔 Aristotle said that a friend was someone who wanted the best for you--and acted on said good will.
Females are not being held accountable for their actions and receives help from every direction while some of these males are being instilled the behaviors of a female when young but are getting punished for them when they make the same mistakes. Now these females have another weapon against males and not having accountability with this "Believe ALL Women". Jon quickly cut off Shia without hearing information from both sides first. The powers that be have done a number on societal brainwashing.
the shia podcast episode is one of my favorites it’s extremely raw in emotion and i appreciate that Jon Bernthal decided to post it. i think avoiding discussions like those does more harm than good.
I went into the the interview between Shia and Jon thinking that Shia was gonna make a fool of himself, but WOW, I was blown away by his honesty and commitment to changing. I'm not easily won over either, especially by people who have done something so bad to another. Amazing interview, well worth the watch
I met Jon at a Comic Con event about 4 years ago. I spent about 5 minutes with him while we waited for the photographer. He is a chill guy and excessively nice guy. I wish him success in life.
Same here, got to meet him at motor city comicon just prior to him filming season 1 of the Punisher. Super nice guy and humble. Told him I was looking forward to him playing Frank Castle and he said his goal was to not let the fans down.
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me too. but i lose respect after he did not press shia about what he did , this interview with rogan prove that he is just like the other hollywood creature . birds of feather flock together. 1 sec he said that he cant forgive woman beater. next he give platform so that scum can make a full use of his acting skill/exp so he can make a comeback.. i hope jon understand that if shia beat up another woman. its his fault as much as shia fault
Even before joe was rich, he listened! It's like he is on edge just waiting for you to get it off your chest. He perfect in his facial expressions too. I've noticed Joe can give them a look and they can jus go straight back into the story with more passion.
Jon Bernthal really inspires me as a person who really came through Hollywood with a success story and didn’t fall into their trap for too long. He pulled himself out of that slippery slope and id a testament that others there can do the same. Others everywhere, really. Thank you Jon Bernthal for being a beacon of light 👏
I can’t express this enough how great joe is as a host, for him to just listen and take in everything and ask questions pertaining to the conversation is truly awesome
Found Jon’s channel in time to watch the Shia interview. I loved the interview and found it to be genuine and brave. Subscribed that day - I was impressed!
I'll never understand hating someone for talking to someone. It's always ok to talk. In fact, it's the only way forward. Closing people off and shunning them forever solves nothing. It leaves no room for growth and won't help anyone learn.
@@ClaudiusFranz I get where you're coming from and that we should strive for a world where everyone should be allowed a second chance because no one should be irredeemable but it is a slippery slope. History has shown that often times people have been given far too many chances and will abuse that forever until finally cut off. I would say we should try to err on the side of caution but recognize that society would in fact be better off without some people being allowed to stay in the lime light as well.
Love John as an actor. My father was an in country 100% mentally disabled Vietnam vet. When he was at his most dangerous and in his PTSD, his fingers would move and twitch, just the way John portrayed the Punisher. I respect the man for hitting that level of realness for a role, he ruled as the Punisher and in most all his parts.
I met Shia back in 2013/2014 in Sydney. Hung out for the night and he was the most down to earth guy I'd ever met. Open and honest about everything he spoke about and just had an amazing personality. Wish we could have hung out more
I found the interview very inspiring. As someone who had an abusive partner as someone who had a vitriolic relationship with the father of my child I did everything in my power to keep my son away from him because he needed to get himself together and figure his own life out. I just find it so inspiring that someone can lose their mind like that make a commitment to God and turn their life around. This is the most beautiful story of grace I’ve ever seen and I admire you for keeping him accountable making sure he’s on the path and that it will never happen again. I pray every day that one day my sons father will be stable enough to be there for him when he looks for him at eighteen. I don’t think they’re a lost cause and I wish more men would be transparent about these mistakes and how to heal from them before it’s too late. Thank you for sharing the interview with the world.
It is only by the grace of God that abusive behaviour can be erased. Punishment and isolation from others only produces shame and more self loathing, which only produces more anger. Abusive people, including myself, need God to show them mercy. I will pray for your family.
As someone who has suffered abuse in relationships, I really enjoyed watching Jon's interview with Shia. It was encouraging to see men talk honestly about these issues and having overcome them. I hope it can help open the door for more men to find help and growth.
I think what he did was deplorable. I also think shutting him away from society would do no good, the same goes for anyone. Rehabilitation and re-education will do a hell of a lot more good than harsh punishment will.
It would help if women can take accountability for their actions as well a lot of the times women are pushing men to these limits Not saying he’s absolved of his transgressions but women need to understand they are a big part in mens attitudes and bad doings Constantly testing the man then when they break you wonder why but don’t take the accountability that you might have had a part in the shift
@@Wakuppeopletheywanttocontrolus or men can just break up with women they feel they have to be physically violent with, that’ll also work. Or the woman can leave the 1st time her man shows signs of violence. Both of these things make more sense than what you said. You are responsible for your actions, including anyone you hit. Bar none
Jon Bernthal is the definition of what it is to be a man and a clear example of how to express your masculinity in a positive non toxic way. Cannot get enough of his content!
That episode was a big part of me seeing I need some help. I'm now on medication, going to counseling, and overall happier than I've been in some time. His realness hit home with me in a real way. I know he got some backlash, but ide like him to know I thank him and Shia for coming on and showing me how to step up. Not to share too much, but my best friend decided to check out. I think I was trying to do the same with alcohol and drugs. Pushed everyone away with hate. That episode and my amazing woman never giving up saved me. I'm sorry you got that hate. I thank you.
Glad it helped you too man, and that your lady is sticking with you. I've treated my wife poorly and it's hard to get over the shame. Ive blown up all my relationships but I'm still married somehow. Like you said I pushed people away with hate. Had anger issues and severe bipolar that I wasn't medicated for. Gotten a lot of help and have dedicated to changing the last two years. Which I think I have. Wish you well on your path to healing!
That has to be the most genuine human exchanges Ive ever seen. You can really tell Jon cares for Shia and doesn’t want him to become irredeemable. Allowing Shia to speak his peace and Jon telling him “Hey that was messed up, and you know you messed up, but I wanna help so it doesn’t happen again” is a truly kind thing to do. We need more people like Jon in this world.
These people are weird. All of them. Who even talks like this? He thinks being friends with people saves them. These people are socially awkward and Absolutely nuts and so are you lot for making out this is normal.
Holy you must want some Jon D don’t care either way he had him on for views he’s no friend like he told joe he hear accusations and didn’t talk to him for two years and instead of going to dinner with him or hang out he brings him on podcast for “real” friend how much money did he make off that podcast such great guy how much did he give to womens shelters or causes hmmm $0 tell me it’s not in it for money 💵 lmfao 👍
This is what other real men (not little boys who got older) discussing things should be. This is real manly behavior. Not rude bravado and toxic anger. Ths strength is stronger ther lifting stregth. Cant get that at the gym. Work your minds and bodys. Be well rounded. Be understanding. Be compassionate.
he did a great chat with guys in prison who are never to be parrolled so literally they will die in prison it was astounding one of the most moving things I have ever listened to makes you realise that everyone is redeemable if given the right chances .......what these men have learnt about themselves should be taught to everyone at school why do they have to get to a place like prison to be granted the grace to be human
Oh yes. Great friend, exiled one of his friends because of what the media said. Didn't bother asking his friend what happened and instead judged his friend based on news stories. Then, when his ratings didn't increase, he decided to get said friend on his podcast for views. Great guy! So thoughtful
Jon Bernthal is the best big brother father figure that we all need to have in our corner. We're blessed to live in a world with cats like this around us. Guys like Jon make us better then we ever thought we could be.
That interview with Shia was probably the best podcast i’ve ever watched in my life. I’ve sent it to a lot of people. We’re all on a journey and it’s great to see other perspectives.
You know that Shia is completely full of ish, right? The guy is one of the biggest scumbags in Hollywood, and that's not easy to accomplish. He thinks black people deserve to go to hell for their skin tone, and the hatred in his voice and eyes when he said that tells me that's how he truly feels. If a Conservative had ever made comments even remotely similar to what Shia has made over the years they would be rightfully cancelled. Shia gets a second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth chance for whatever reason. We're all on a journey, sure, and some of us lie our way through it. Shia is one of those people...
Shia is u think the best actor alive at the moment. He is immensely talented. Most artists are imperfect, & have been in trouble. It’s not a hanging offence. Christianity forgives! Looking forward to seeing him in new movies soon
If you haven’t seen the interview with Shia I would recommend it. Very powerful, emotional and eye opening to the whole story. He takes full responsibility for the things he’s done & is committed to get his life right.
Man it almost brings a tear to my eye seeing Jon advocating for men obviously we’re not justifying abuse but it’s important to not just write people off as terrible people and disregard the fact that hurt people hurt people
Such a true statement. I’ve been stuck in a abusive relationship for 17 years. Half of my life. I constantly have to make up lies to to cover the black eyes, busted lips, and scratches. It’s a lonely world when you are a men being abused by a woman. No resources, no help, and everyone thinks it’s a big joke. But if the roles were reversed it wouldn’t be a joke to anyone. I’m so scared to leave because my kids are the only family I have. I grew up in state custody and I can’t lose them. But both of my in laws are well known attorneys with unlimited resources. So it’s a tough battle. In my area courts almost always side with the female. So I tough it out so I can be with my kids.
@@johnnycash2238 you’re going to live a life full of regret and be miserable in your older years. I understand where you’re coming from but no one is this world will ever care but YOU and no one can change it but you. Get away from that witch, be copacetic enough for the kids but the day they are 18 never speak to the woman again. Your life is going to be ruined you already will have 17 years of deep shame and regret just allowing it, don’t stand for it any more. WAKE UP PLEASE
@@johnnycash223807Josh is right. You’re doing the right thing by putting your relationship with your kids first. But you’ll have to stand up for you, and them when they’re all old enough. They’ll see it and wonder why you’re not doing anything about it. If you leave too early, they won’t understand why you put your desires and comfort over your relationship with them.
Hurt people hurt people and for a long time we've just expected men to stomach their hurt with no empathy from society. Shit like Shia beating his girl comes from that. Put insane expectations on us and disregard our trauma, then don't be surprised when incidents like that happen.
I'm sure she is no saint. "Women are more likely than men to stalk, attack and psychologically abuse their partners, according to a University of Florida study" when 2 broken people are together I'm sure they are both to blame. I don't condone his actions but we always side with the women when the women are usually the abuser.
@@dontcare7086 you're literally just saying things out of your ass. You don't even know that woman, who literally wouldn't hurt a fly. SHIA literally said out of his own mouth what he did to her... This weird gaslighting shit you people do is toxic. FKA Twigs has never even been in the media for anything crazy, yet you've already made an assessment....
@@SrAntonio301 why, are you coming from the perspective of someone that's never listened to over two hours of conversation that they had? Clearly you didn't watch/listen to the podcast. Also, get your facts straight before you run your self righteous mouth please sir. Huge difference between abuse and assault.
@@SrAntonio301 You win the award for the stupidest thing said 🏆 Judge someone all you want, but never condemn them. Everybody deserves an opportunity to change, nobody should be defined by who they were, or maybe even who they are right now, every person on the planet can be better, don't take the right to be better away by trying to condemn, that's not your place.
Was an amazing interview was in tears watching this guy opening up about mistakes he made, hey we’ve all done shit we ain’t proud of (no way saying what he did wasn’t horrendous) but he owned it 👏🏻
Shia LeBouf (probably spelled improperly) is one of the kindest most sincere people I’ve had the privilege of meeting. My son and I were at San Fran airport and got to meet him with no one around and he couldn’t have been any more polite and inviting. Just a genuine guy with a great heart. He could have easily said man I’m eating or I’m trying to read. But he didn’t.
I randomly tuned into this clip after searching for that transformers meme. I listened to half of this one and paused it to visit Jon Bernthal’s Real Ones podcast. In that interview Shia was fully transparent. In every aspect of that conversation he had a well thought out intelligent response. He was genuine and honest and tried to conceal nothing. I don’t know how you can dislike the guy or try to defame him. He’s honest and real and I love hearing his thought process.
I respect people like this, those who help people that have done fucked up things get better. Thats a much better (and way harder to handle) thing than just completely dismissing a person that can improve. This causes a positive change in the world, where dismissing a person (unless necessary) can make things worse for the world sometimes.
Amen! The way he said that, really made me think about all the “friends” that turned their back on me if I made poor decisions & the very few that didn’t & always try to help me be better.
Anybody can do it. Kairos prison ministry has been doing this for a long time. Its great to hear a rich jewish kid like Jon out acting like a christian. Maybe he could get his billionaire family to donate to the cause?
I watched the clip and it brought me to tears, because you could feel everything he said even without going through what Shia has gone through in his life. Obviously abuse in any form is not something be swept away but at the same time as he said a lot of the time instead of rehabilitating people who have done things they regret themselves a lot of the time society decides they should be thrown away somewhere left alone, vs what Jon did and have a real conversation of healing and understanding to the point where there was no judgement just words between two people, you could tell even though Jon was disgusted by what Shia might have done, that as a real friend he wasn’t just going to just cut him off but instead wanted to be someone who can be there for him to check on him give it to him straight etc. you can tell he wants the best for him
everyone deserves the chances to redeem themselves if we are truely to be a compassionate society we need to help people see the good in themselves so that they can grow & become a better human but they need to want to do that first. Jon's conversations with people on his pod cast are very much like Joe Rogan's more about the guest than the interviewer ...they are all important conversations & I find I learn lots from them all
That podcast/interview with Shia was absolutely amazing and one of my favorite podcasts/interviews ever (along with Rogan/David Choe and a few others). Just the realness, rawness, and honesty to them are amazing. The deep emotion and willingness to put yourself out there and show your vulnerability makes any conversation/interview amazing no matter who you are or what you’ve done
Shia was so honest and open during that interview. When he started crying talking about the love and loyalty his wife showed him while at his lowest was not a performance he was being so genuine. Thats one of the best interviews ive seen.
I don't know anything about but that is a amazing qoute....or whatever you call sometime said in the bible...I think I will remember that for the rest of my life....thank you
True legend right here for sticking by a friends side through their struggles. Shia Labeouf podcast was real, and raw. Respect for both those gentlemen.
Met him in Las Vegas randomly at a carousel while his daughter was riding. He’s absolutely gracious and kind and will remain a favorite celeb because of that. Oh, and because his Punisher character is the best Marvel depiction so far… (I know I know, Wolverine in Logan was 🔥)
Bless Jon. Just as much as victims need help, people going down the wrong path need help as well. You cant spotlight one and turn your back on the other. If only more people were able to see both sides of things in life.
@@sumstuff6956 look it up, Shia LeBoef and FKA Twigs. He admitted that he abused her. Jon is saying "he may have done those things" etc but he has admitted it. He strangled her, he threatened her, he knowingly infected her with an STD, he violently attacked her and he drove around at night shooting stray dogs to "get into character". This isn't a he said she said situation, he 100% did it.
@@islabee94 what a piece of shit I knew by the way rogan was saying “right” etc that joe wasn’t feelin what he was saying I’ve followed joe for many years became obsessive at one point love joe and know when he thinks a guest is full of shit I’m guessing rogan wasn’t buying his bullshit when he said “I can’t roll wiv women abusers or child abusers “ then went on to try and pull the wool over joes eyes an explain how he made an exception for this particular woman abuser I’ve always thought Jon is full of shit he was on rogans befire trying to make out like he was some kind of tuff guy gangster WHILST he was still acting and joe was giving the same kinda reaction that Jon berandal has confirmed with this that he’s full of shit and spineless typical actor can tell joe ain’t buying his justification
You CANNOT help people in need of help UNLESS THEY accept, seek, welcome help. This is from my experience over 4+ decades. Only if they are WILLING to get better, learn, change, whatever you coin the phrase, nothing changes. Heart breaking feeling to be helpless witnessing self destruction.
John Bernthal is 1 dude i look up to. So grounded after a rough time. I would love to sit down and just chat with this dude. Super ground genuine nice dude 👌
Many years ago when my kids were watching Even Stevens....I said that Shia was going to go far with his acting talent. Fast forward to the present... I can see in his eyes that he harbors some deep pain. I wish him a lot of good vibes/energy...and peace of mind. ❤
"Being a friend is not about turning your back on somebody when they do something that you find deplorable or disgusting, your job as a friend is to make sure they don't do it again." - Jon Bernthal. Amazing quote.
got chills i scrolled down and got to your comment and started reading it at the exact time he said it in the video
Sometimes no matter how much you try to help someone, it's useless unless they are willing to change.
@@boingo388 Well depends, sure most americans have this weird take not to protect or care for their family and friends. But in other parts of the world such as in my culture we don't have that.
@@XenagarD because most Americans don’t have real problems, and so all their problems are continuously self-inflicted, and it is hard to stand by someone after so many times, even family
@@garrettbaratheon567 Americans don't have real problems? No real jobs that pay a living wage. No jobs with reasonable work hours and benefits? Can't get access to healthcare, education, affordable housing, etc...
Police murdering people on the streets. Politicians fighting to make women second class citizens again.
Plenty of real problems.
He's so chill for a guy who plays so many unchill characters
For someone who comes across as a decent, down-to-earth guy, he is really great at playing arseholes.
That's almost always the case. All the villains from breaking bad are sweethearts irl as well.
He seems like a calm and responsible person.
They failed so many times trying to make the Punisher. And this chill dude freaking nailed it!
@@invisigaming357that’s crazy it’s like their jobs as actors is to be good portraying other people
That full interview with Shia as well as Shia’s interview with Bishop Barron are so raw and honest. He owned his mistakes and trying to make things right with the people he hurt. He made no excuses or looking for a typical Hollywood “slap on the wrist” outcome. Shia never tried to make himself the victim and I have mad respect for Shia on that because that’s owning your mistakes.
Yeah, I do praise him for that because there’s so many guys that would do what he did and not own up to it. That tells me that you know he knows his mistake. He regrets it he’s really showing remorse. You know that he knows he probably I need to help, and that is refreshing because again that some guys I’ll do that stuff and try to sit there and act like they did nothing wrong. At least he’s only up to what he did. I mean I’ve seen some stories I’m happy people are not giving them a hard time because I’ve seen some celebrities apologize for things they made mistakes for and they still get punished for it and still sit there and bash and I think that’s fucked up. They say apologize I mean I know some slow is apologize and I don’t really mean it I understand that, but my thing is this you need to realize how hard it is to apologize to the world, I’m not perfect. They do the same things as we do they make mistakes. Yeah but it was Larry Owens up to the mistakes and apologize for the Julisa bashing them they shouldn’t have to. You know make it when they make mistakes should have a room in their life for a career.
He stil bullied, harassed people. He's a woman beater.
He's also a psycho trying to convince people he's gonna do better. Someone like him will never do better. It's the wife beater mentality. It's a manipulation tactic. It never actually gets better.
Best interview I’ve ever seen
Jon, I listened to the Shia podcast. I was married to a mentally-emotionally abusive alcoholic for 15 years. I was sexually assaulted as a teen and young adult. Listening to Shia, a man who struggles deeply and has injured others just as deeply, but who also acknowledges who and what he has been and done, takes complete ownership to these injuries, but is trying desperately to be a better man… gave me hope. People can change. People can heal. People can choose better ways. Changing the mindset takes hard work. God is bigger than all of us. And forgiveness is important. I appreciate that you took a risk with Shia. I hope more injures people listen to what he explains. Thank you.
I have also been in a few emotionally/physically abusive relationships, one of which was really bad and ended up with them being arrested. I stayed with that person for a while afterwards (generally not the right decision) but I ended up losing all the trust I initially carried for them and diving into a brutal depression that forced me to end it. I am still friends with this person. Why? Because they made an effort to be better and while it wasn’t enough to save the relationship, this is still a human being I care for. People who know this criticize me but they’re just a product of the colorless, grayscale-less world we live in. Everybody can be evil. And why we should definitely call out when someone is doing wrong, we should also permit them the ability to understand what they’ve done wrong and allow them to change. It’s kind of how screaming at a dog and kicking it out of the house isn’t going to train it to not jump on guests. Canceling people isn’t going to address the problem, it just promotes fear and gives people an excuse to witch hunt any person they don’t like.
Abuse is obviously not okay. But instead of permanently excommunicating abusers from society, we should be more adamant on rehabilitation so that they improve. Sure, there’s some people who are always going to be problematic. But most people act in ways they have seen demonstrated to them as okay and society should work on conditioning those people to become better. Does Hollywood actually give a shit about abuse or rape? Obviously not. It’s all extra credit performative bullshit.
This guy loves to talk but he seems to be a decent guy.
Lmao stop the cap you liked it
@@godhasabandonedme1643☹️ what the
All thanks to Christ
The podcast with Shia was so raw and emotional. Shia didn't make excuses, he didn't sugar coat his persona. He put it all on the table. One of the best podcasts I've see. I hope he continues to do the work necessary to better himself.
It was pathetic.... Le bouff came across as a perpetual spoiled entiteled Hollywood bratt and punisher was just a psychophant enabler
I saw it’s true
I 100% agree bro ! I think the 2 of them should make some more movies together
Nothing’s wrong with Shia, there’s no man in the world that just hits or knocks around his woman. Women do or say a lot of nasty stuff to men but always men’s actions or words highlighted. No one even asks Shia why he did that and what was the reason
@@TM-MDX stupid comment. Shia said in the interview multiple times that there was and is something wrong with him and that he was in the wrong. In part that’s what made the interview special. Why would you justify abusive behaviour when the abuser themselves don’t?
In a total of 10 minutes, Joe Rogan spoke maybe twice. That's proper journalism and a very rare skill.
Absolutely.
It's called respect for your guests. Not alot of interviewers have it. They tend to cut you off during the answer to their questions which pisses me off. If I was being interviewed If they interrupted me 2 times I'd stop em and say do you want to hear this or not? They do it again I'd walk off. As an interviewer show respect to those who take their time to do the interview. And respect the person asking you the questions. It's not rocket science.
Except when he’s fucked up, then it goes too shit
He's one of my tier interviewers!
His interviewing skills are so far beyond most "professional" interviewers out there. There's not a mainstream journalist who comes close.
I watched that interview and I feel that Jon made the best decision by doing it and airing it. It was the most genuine authentic and humble thing I have ever seen. It is going to save many lives. These guys are the true definition of men and what beautiful pure core characters these guys have. I am so blown away with how truly impactful this was and will be for years to come. Very honored to have seen it and been positively moved to my core by its authenticity and rawness. The courage is still giving me chills deep to the soul.
The Shia interview is probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen in my life... Just the raw honesty and the coming to terms without zero judgement is what the world needs... Jon Bernthal is a great interviewer...
His interview with Shia is probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen in my life. Just the raw honesty and the coming to terms without zero judgement is what the world needs.
Too bad his show is only for apple drones
He's an ACTOR. His whole life is him lying to your faces.
People hate those that tell the truth and shatter their worldviews. This guy is playing a role right in front of your faces.
Shia is lost in his own mind still
there better be "he will not divide us" fiasco in that or im not watching it.
I agree feel the same way
Man, Jon seems like such a solid dude. Hollywood needs more people like him.
He is Hollywood, numbnuts.
He said that "acting" was necessary to his friend's survival. Nothing more pretentious and less "solid' has ever been uttered... Hollywood is full of themselves and out of touch. "Acting" isn't necessary to anyone's survival. Hell, it's not even necessary at all.
He's acting. This guy is just another rich kid who became famous because of his parents nepotism. Don't fall for the act.
People hate reading the truth.
And he has, like, 'no ego.' lmao
Hollywood doesn't deserve Jon
Joe is such a phenomenal listener, it’s incredible really how he lets his guests just speak and he reciprocates so calmly and when it’s his turn. Much respect.
Sometimes
Quit glazing bruh
@@jayjones2017I don’t this it’s glazing at all. He has the biggest platform for podcasts. & if most other ppl that had the chance to sit down with half the ppl he has on his show they would be cutting those guests off all the time, mid sentence to ask something the public would wanna hear the second the guest starts saying anything controversial or related to anything that would make a headline or thumbnail. He’s one of the only people with limelight & power for the most part that ( US )-the PEOPLE should respect & honestly be grateful that we have. Because there’s some important guests he has on that shed light on topics that aren’t getting media attention correctly or ppl that are having backlash in the media sometimes, that are getting blackmailed by the ppl running those corporations & ALL the information & media in the country. He’s literally like the only platform where ppl can talk about REAL Shit going on in the world. & he’s the only one that’s SO BIG & has push.. so much so that the government is tight & max about it because he’s the only platform that they can’t really cancel… which is fuckin scary. Because if it was up the them.. they would have been canceled him already but they can’t. We should ALL be concerned about how ALL of us have phones on on us 24/7 to the point that they’re practically APART of OUR BODY & IDENTITY. Which nobody thinks about bc it’s been programmed in our daily lives now for over a decade. So now u & me & everyone else feels like we’re naked or a part of us is missing when u can’t find your phone.. right? So then think about how since it’s pretty much apart of our body & everyday life like we have our own individual mind & then your phone as well. BUT … “THEY” control everything on your phone. There not much in the media that’s not being controlled by the elites. If they cancel Rogan, then they can cancel anything else they u can think of. When you’re as big as he is & they shut u down, then I truly believe NWO is REALLY right around the corner dawg
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@@THEUNOSLOTTyou need a hobby
An honor to have watched Jon’s podcast with Shia. Shia seemed so tired, aged and haggard. He was just so raw, an open soul, gosh it was powerful, he seemed genuinely appreciative of someone that had experience what he was experiencing and letting him know there were other ways, better ways through the journey and burdens he was carrying. To know that you must own your screw-ups, to learn from those lessons, that Yes there are better choices to make that will allow you to start healing. It seemed that he came to understand and realized that he needed to put in the work for/to recovery. I believe that he came to understand that Failure was no longer an option. Once you bring a child into this world, you no longer live for yourself. G-d has given you/us many precious things utmost - children.
Your friendship with Shia is yet another gift. Again - Thank you Jon and Shia. May G-d continue to Bless Both You.
We all need a friend like Bernthal in our corner.
No thanks
Nah fam, The world just need to be better to one-another.
A friend that hears a rumor and stops talking to you for two years without asking your side? Lol good luck with that friend.
@@ericpeterson1000amen to this^ - bailing on someone based on an accusation… “I want to show you what a real friend is” well you totally fucking failed dude 😂
Most people see people like this as annoying or arrogant and push them away. I try to help people all the time with mindset because I broke through a lot on my own, and many people just say I think i'm better than them. Majority of people don't want to change and are stubborn as hell with any advice.
"Your job as a friend, when your friend does something deplorable, is not to leave them. Your job is to make sure they won't do it again." Well put Jon.
I think having him on after the accusations was a great idea bc people grow and learn from their past mistakes and having him on as a friend and giving him a chance to speak for himself was very important. I would say as long as he isn’t that person anymore then he can move forward from that. So thank you Jon for being a friend to him and making sure he’s learning and healing from that state in his life
this is such an important message ! a good man can inspire a bad one to change. i was heartbroken when i found out about Shia’s allegations. i met him when we were kids and in hindsight saw a kid who had a world of pressure on him to give give give everything he had to entertain others. and he did so brilliantly. what he did to hurt others later on was wrong and should be addressed, not be forgotten - but he does truly deserve help because i full-heartedly believe he is beyond capable and worthy of rehabilitation. and imagine how many others he could inspire to do the same x
I remember being worried he was gonna ruin the punisher. I’ve never been happier for being so wrong
He now IS the Punisher
how would he fuck up ? his face fits a spartan helmet.
Right. Can't Invision anyone else from now on
I did the same thing! I thought he would ruin it and went in skeptical. Watched episode 1 and binged watched the rest of the season in 2 days. He absolutely killed it and owned that role!
Ya, the Punisher show he was in was ruined by the bad writing.
This is beautiful. I’ve always liked this guy. To see an actor being a true human off the screen…we need more of him.
I am CRAZY about both Jon and Shia. Shia is a HUGE talent, and deserves a chance.
As a woman who suffered sexual abuse and now a social worker.. I whole heartedly agree that these men need someone to lead them and guide them too… there is an awful lot of resources for victims .. but not the other way around and a lot of times these perpetrators are victims of abuse themselves… and some carry it out in there lives and some don’t…I know that may sound weird coming from me but it’s true
That’s very mature and forgiving of you too find that perspective.
Respect to you for saying this! Its easy to assign a victim and a perpetrator but what many fail to realize is that both parties are usually in need of some help. So easy to forget that we're all human here and a lot of us are dealing with some pretty serious internal conflicts.
Yes many times there is abuse both ways. Women get off way too easy. It's damaging everything in western cultures.
Many focus on the perceived lack of justice around these types of issues, and while that should definitely be a major concern, I sometimes feel like we should also consider the virtue of mercy as well, and how in many ways it can be forgotten about in these scenarios. Obviously mercy isn't something that should come cheaply or automatically, it is something that should be offered to those willing to open themselves to it if they are truly striving to turn from their wrongful ways. I read something somewhere that went like this: justice and mercy are two parts of one whole. Justice without mercy can become injustice in the same way that mercy without justice can.
@Noran Micholas I agree with the idea that both parties are in need of help. We saw that most recently with the Depp and Heard trials. Both parties were guilty of a lot of unkindness and poor behaviour towards each other. I don't get that vibe from Shia's story (but will accept the info we have is very limited). Sometimes there IS a victim and a perpetrator. Perpetrators still need help, but in a very different way. And it's generally true that they only seem interested in help once they are caught/exposed, which isn't true for victims.
Just had one of my friends reach out to me today to check on me and tell me he’s proud of me for taking care of my mental health after my Mom and dog died. Meant the world to me, even though I’m in a good place and doing well. The fact that he cares enough about where my mindset is at says volumes of the type of person he is. Having good people in your corner is empowering
That's so awesome.🥺 Keep that person around.
Big respect Ma man x
You're friend sounds ride or die. I don't know how do losing only one. Do you believe in God? What's your mind? Just so when have deal with it, don't want to be useless.
No idea what that’s like lol
If you have "mental health" issues shouldn't you book an counseling session? I believe that everyone should go see a counselor at least once a year for a mental tune-up. This should be part of your yearly physical. People also should book an appointment for a massage and chiropractor each year.
What a good dude. His interview with Shia was outstanding. He really opened up and was painfully honest. I love the fact that Jon let him talk and didnt interrupt him. Thats rare
Big props to Jon for listening to Shia and just letting him go on the interview and being an active listener.
For those that haven't seen the Jon's podcast episode with Shia, it may be the single most honest and impactful interview I've ever listened to. There are moments from that conversation that I'll take to my grave and I highly recommend it to everyone.
Amen to that
Yeah like having a cold sore being an std!!!!! 😄
I’m going to go find it and watch it💙
calm the fuck down, its two celebrities talking
I saw that Conan and Joey Diaz and now Jon Bernthal and everyone irrelevant has a podcast now and thought it's just band wagon fodder, but I respect Jon for risking something
He understands balance. We need more people like him.
The world needs less rich people pretending to be blue collar.
What in the world is with the heavy bootlicking, are most these comment sections AI generated? Y’all are just saying the same shit. This whole comment section is just an echo chamber
Balance is not needed, you gotta overcome ,surpass, exceed .dont stop at a balance
@@malinko35 no, world needs less judgmental pricks like you, less hate and jealousy towards other people successes
Looks like you dont understand "Gender rolls"
As a woman that’s been in physically, mentally and emotionally abusive relationships…, I truly appreciated the interview with Shia and Jon. So much so I shared it to my Facebook page. It was enlightening, remarkable and healing (for me) in its own way.
Relationships? Plural? Instead being a victim maybe try taking accountability and chose better partners for one. Two, what are YOU doing that multiple men are physically/emotionally abusing you. most ppl don’t start hitting ppl for no reason. Not saying it’s right or deserved but sometimes you can learn from your own actions. I don’t believe your completely innocent.
@@ZukMyZikwomen will do anything but be accountable 🤦♂️
@@boosterstephanie5700 they love victimhood. They scream victim from the rooftops. That’s why #metoo happened. These women willingly slept with nasty men like Weinstein to get roles. They gave away their pussy for roles and money then acted like victims like they were taken advantage of but true is the victims are the women who got morals and said no to ppl like Weinstein and didn’t get the roles. Crazy fucking world we live in.
@@ZukMyZik hmm interesting response to my comment. I commented on the interview and my appreciation for the raw and vulnerable conversation. No where in my comments did I say I was a victim, did I place blame or point a finger. Maybe look at what my comment brought up in you? 🤔🤷🏼♀️ While the interview is specifically speaking to romantic relationships, my comment was non specific. Family and friends can be abusive as well, just for the record. There’s a lot of assumption in your comment. Assuming I haven’t done any self work, healing work, etc. when in fact you have no idea what I may or may not have done/worked on in this regard. For the sake of anyone else reading this, yes responsibility needs to be taken for the situations and relationships we accept/put ourselves in, stay in. And, the only persons actions I can control are my own. In as much as I accept responsibility for staying in situations/relationships that were abusive…, they have their own responsibility in accepting they choose to respond how they did. I do believe those responses were based on their own trauma and issues around them, just as me staying was a response to my own unhealed traumas at that time…and it’s their responsibility to do their own healing around that and not put it on another. Similar to your comment now. Something I said triggered something in you in such a way you felt it necessary to respond to a stranger on TH-cam. And comment in such a way that assumes you know anything about me. No questions were asked of me, no inquiry into anything. It sounds like you jumped to some conclusions, without any real knowledge of me or my relationships, and commented as though your thoughts are accurate in some way. Perhaps that’s something you want to examine more within yourself? 🤷🏼♀️Perhaps not? Either way, best to you.
@@nativeca7356 again proven my point. No accountability. It’s a women’s kryptonite.
You're a decent human being Jon! A living example of a true friend. If more people behaved like you did towards Shia, the world would be a better place ♥️ keep being you, no matter what the critics say. "Only that which comes from love is real."
This is why Joe is so freaking awesome! Doesn’t feel the need to interrupt or interject. Ten minutes of listening with hardly a word. He just creates an environment conducive to honest open dialogue
Annnd then there's NDT lol
No hes selective on whom he interrupts😂
It’s our job to do this with others too
Imagine how many times Stern would have interrupted him.
Do you people take ecstasy before making comments like this? Y’all are corny.
I, being sober over 33 years in AA, felt that the interview with Shia was absolutely amazing. Because there was no real judgment or shame coming from Jon. Just a broken man, pouring out his life in front of a microphone and camera to a friend. It was extremely powerful.
It was weak and a very beta thing to do. But thats what Shia is a lunatic beta
agree; i think about that interview often. And of course I recommended it to my parents both old tymers in the program; Shia’s raw emotion was : It’s not about quitting drinking, it’s that you want to live more than you want to drink. I feel sorry that Shia like a lot of us, don’t see our sensitivity as a strength and try and find ways to cope with that soft heart; It is actually his (our) strength-
@@lessdatesmoreonmyplates1457 man child
@@NeroZenith dude is a troll lmfao
Thank you Jon for having him on your show, I have watched your interview with him at least 20 times. We are not defined by our mistakes and only a true friend would stand in the dark with a man like this.
The key word around that interview is redemption. So many people make excuses instead of taking accountability and making amends, so it's honestly refreshing and inspiring. The world needs more examples like that. That and it taught people about real masculinity. Beautiful.
The interview with Shia is my favorite interview Jon's done since he started his podcast. It was the most real and just raw emotional conversation I've heard in a long time on so many different subjects. The awareness Shia had of his choices and decisions up to that point were shocking to hear. Jon was amazing at mediating and being a real friend.
Y-y-y-y-yunno, I uhhh... yunno uh-uh-uhhhh
@@FartInYourFace234 lmfao I know!!!
Incredibly impressive how Jon interviewed him and his patience.
It was interesting to listen to, partly because it was impossible to tell what was bullshit. Shia saying something to the effect of "I was seeing everything in life as an opportunity for performance, but I'm not doing that any more" while delivering what could easily just be another performance made it very difficult to believe anything he said. A bit of a boy who cried wolf situation he's put himself in with his constant bullshit. I'm not even sure I believe his accent is real.
@@LightninLew the reason for his evolution was because of him becoming a father and finding religion. It's just a natural part of growing up, i don't think he was being pretentious at all.
"Being a friend is not about turning your back on somebody when they do something you find deplorable... your job as a friend is to make sure they don't do it again" wow that really struck me.
I want to hear him say that as Frank Castle right before emptying his friend's skull. 💥
@@XiaolinDraconis chill dude
Jon, I watched the entirety of that Shia interview. You displayed amazing emotional intelligence, compassion and sensitivity. As a woman, it is incredibly healing and uplifting to listen to a man who has gone thru his own transformationally redemptive process. There is only one man who ever actually apologized to me for his abuse. One. People who are critical of your interviewing him fall in one of two basic categories IMO: (1) they have never gone thru a fall from grace and had to go thru repentance and redemption (2) they have never taken responsibility for their own mistakes and choose to remain bitter and unforgiving towards others. True self-examination and self-responsibility bring humility and repentance for mistakes made. The journey of being a 'successful' human being is to experience victorious redemption through humility and atonement. AND... 7.4 MILLION people watched that interview... so who are this handful of critics? Who cares.... Both you and Shia gave a great gift to a portion of this human family. Love, joy, peace, Maria t
Shia is one of the best actors of this generation! I hope he keeps his stuff together and stay on the right path.
Rogan never butt in once. That's how you know you got a good guest on the show
and a testament to Joe's interviewing skills.
That is called good weed.
Trust me.
Helps you listen more and focus more on one person.
@@rodion1911 Yes
@@dertythegrower It legitimately has the opposite effect on me. I'm all in my own head and just tune people out.
Because Joe doesn't listen to just retort, he listens to try and actually understand someone.
A friend like he's talking about you can only hope or pray for these days. And I hope that I'm that friend for my friends. What Jon said about help for men that are emotionally out of control really hit me. Men seem to have to know everything and hold it all together without any training or help, and then if something goes wrong you're done and labeled useless. It's an all or nothing world, without any room for mistakes anymore, this is why you have those friends to check you.
That IS how friends act. Anything less is not a friend. I used to have a ton of "friends", but i realised i really only had a few.
Every couple of months I have mini panic attacks. I think it’s because I don’t feel free enough. Constantly working. Drinking too much, barley spending time on things I like. I forget about it until one day it hits me and I damn near start crying
While women should be “believed” & have zero accountability & are encouraged to ruin men’s lives.
@@kiezersosay49 People seem to use the word "friend" to mean everything from casual acquaintance to platonic soulmate 🤔
Aristotle said that a friend was someone who wanted the best for you--and acted on said good will.
Females are not being held accountable for their actions and receives help from every direction while some of these males are being instilled the behaviors of a female when young but are getting punished for them when they make the same mistakes. Now these females have another weapon against males and not having accountability with this "Believe ALL Women". Jon quickly cut off Shia without hearing information from both sides first. The powers that be have done a number on societal brainwashing.
Real men sharing real thoughts and feelings. We need more of this
So glad Jon came on the show, never knew he was such a genuine heart felt man with the way he talked about all these topics in this episode
Jon is a top tier actor. He IS the Punisher. Carries a lot of energy. Hate him or love him, he's done his job VERY well
He was great on the walking dead!
Thomas Jane is THE punisher
He brings such intensity to every role he takes.
He’s even acting this whole interview. Just listen.
@@ClickClan100 he wasn't as good.
the shia podcast episode is one of my favorites it’s extremely raw in emotion and i appreciate that Jon Bernthal decided to post it. i think avoiding discussions like those does more harm than good.
Wrong,that raw emotiin was depression
@@lawlessfarming9878 yeah...... sure, that doesn't mean it's not raw emotion
@@lawlessfarming9878 what are you on about?
I know I cried toward the end of it the emotion was just so real & raw
@@lawlessfarming9878 do you even know what depression is like?
That episode actually changed my life, both your honesty and his were so important.
I went into the the interview between Shia and Jon thinking that Shia was gonna make a fool of himself, but WOW, I was blown away by his honesty and commitment to changing. I'm not easily won over either, especially by people who have done something so bad to another. Amazing interview, well worth the watch
I met Jon at a Comic Con event about 4 years ago. I spent about 5 minutes with him while we waited for the photographer. He is a chill guy and excessively nice guy. I wish him success in life.
Same here, got to meet him at motor city comicon just prior to him filming season 1 of the Punisher. Super nice guy and humble. Told him I was looking forward to him playing Frank Castle and he said his goal was to not let the fans down.
A commenter named 'DARTHN3WS' with 5.1k likes in this video th-cam.com/video/JzmUojwdfg0/w-d-xo.html typed... "I met him at comic con during his first year as punisher, NOBODY was in his line, so I took a photo and spent 5 minutes talking with him. Such a real dude"
I spent 15 minutes with him waiting for a podcast to start and he is okay
me too. but i lose respect after he did not press shia about what he did , this interview with rogan prove that he is just like the other hollywood creature . birds of feather flock together. 1 sec he said that he cant forgive woman beater. next he give platform so that scum can make a full use of his acting skill/exp so he can make a comeback.. i hope jon understand that if shia beat up another woman. its his fault as much as shia fault
I spent 30 seconds with him in an elevator. It was super awkward because I had just ripped a huge fart before he got in.
Joe never interrupted. He is so much better than other night time interviewers already.
Even before joe was rich, he listened! It's like he is on edge just waiting for you to get it off your chest.
He perfect in his facial expressions too. I've noticed Joe can give them a look and they can jus go straight back into the story with more passion.
Because Joe is high 🥴
@@fonainfinity5964 we are all high
@@101rwd1943 nah, a high person would be obnoxious or ask what they said repeatedly. Respect the serious conversation.
Night time? Why you gotta make it sound all creepy?! When are these ever released at night?
Jon Bernthal really inspires me as a person who really came through Hollywood with a success story and didn’t fall into their trap for too long. He pulled himself out of that slippery slope and id a testament that others there can do the same. Others everywhere, really. Thank you Jon Bernthal for being a beacon of light 👏
Man... Shia was my favorite actor and I was so sad he was canceled and Jon comes around and saves the day. Love both those actors.
I can’t express this enough how great joe is as a host, for him to just listen and take in everything and ask questions pertaining to the conversation is truly awesome
Disagree. Neil Tyson would be a better interviewer
You literally just explained anyone having a conversation
@@Lasciviousness have you ever seen any of the Jimmy's doing interviews because joe rogan is level above them they just interrupt constantly
You mean how a conversation should go
Jon interviews that same way I love these two their pod casts are superb
"your responsibility is to make sure they don't do it again" very touching statement.
That interview definitely made an impact. I'm thankful for a friend sharing it with me.
Found Jon’s channel in time to watch the Shia interview. I loved the interview and found it to be genuine and brave. Subscribed that day - I was impressed!
I'll never understand hating someone for talking to someone. It's always ok to talk. In fact, it's the only way forward. Closing people off and shunning them forever solves nothing. It leaves no room for growth and won't help anyone learn.
I suppose. It depends. On circumstance
@@ClaudiusFranz When was the last time an absolute actually applied to everything
@@ClaudiusFranz I get where you're coming from and that we should strive for a world where everyone should be allowed a second chance because no one should be irredeemable but it is a slippery slope. History has shown that often times people have been given far too many chances and will abuse that forever until finally cut off. I would say we should try to err on the side of caution but recognize that society would in fact be better off without some people being allowed to stay in the lime light as well.
@nate19 100%
Well your lack of understanding is your problem isn’t it. You have an opinion big deal
Love John as an actor. My father was an in country 100% mentally disabled Vietnam vet. When he was at his most dangerous and in his PTSD, his fingers would move and twitch, just the way John portrayed the Punisher. I respect the man for hitting that level of realness for a role, he ruled as the Punisher and in most all his parts.
2 of my favorite actors, Jon & Shia! So proud of Jon for giving Shia a chance to talk and show change and vulnerability. Love all this! ❤
This is what being a good human is. Not being perfect, learning from your mistakes and striving to do better. Everyone deserves that chance.
Interesting statement. What if Shia slept with Bernthal's wife?
@@glp.1337 he shouldn't be forgiven? The fuck is your point
@@nottheoriginalhandle How about you answer that single question first before you pose 2 new ones.
I met Shia back in 2013/2014 in Sydney. Hung out for the night and he was the most down to earth guy I'd ever met. Open and honest about everything he spoke about and just had an amazing personality. Wish we could have hung out more
Sure you did
@@alexha2884 sure you didn't
@@alexha2884 why not believe him?
@@bbgames908 why believe him?
Nice try Shia
I found the interview very inspiring. As someone who had an abusive partner as someone who had a vitriolic relationship with the father of my child I did everything in my power to keep my son away from him because he needed to get himself together and figure his own life out. I just find it so inspiring that someone can lose their mind like that make a commitment to God and turn their life around. This is the most beautiful story of grace I’ve ever seen and I admire you for keeping him accountable making sure he’s on the path and that it will never happen again. I pray every day that one day my sons father will be stable enough to be there for him when he looks for him at eighteen. I don’t think they’re a lost cause and I wish more men would be transparent about these mistakes and how to heal from them before it’s too late. Thank you for sharing the interview with the world.
It is only by the grace of God that abusive behaviour can be erased. Punishment and isolation from others only produces shame and more self loathing, which only produces more anger. Abusive people, including myself, need God to show them mercy. I will pray for your family.
As someone who has suffered abuse in relationships, I really enjoyed watching Jon's interview with Shia. It was encouraging to see men talk honestly about these issues and having overcome them. I hope it can help open the door for more men to find help and growth.
I think what he did was deplorable. I also think shutting him away from society would do no good, the same goes for anyone. Rehabilitation and re-education will do a hell of a lot more good than harsh punishment will.
It would help if women can take accountability for their actions as well a lot of the times women are pushing men to these limits
Not saying he’s absolved of his transgressions but women need to understand they are a big part in mens attitudes and bad doings
Constantly testing the man then when they break you wonder why but don’t take the accountability that you might have had a part in the shift
@Imnottherealswtheory there's no reason for abuse either gender.
@@Wakuppeopletheywanttocontrolus or men can just break up with women they feel they have to be physically violent with, that’ll also work. Or the woman can leave the 1st time her man shows signs of violence. Both of these things make more sense than what you said. You are responsible for your actions, including anyone you hit. Bar none
@@kj7682 too bad women do that before that could happen lol this is what I mean no accountability lol
It’s crazy how Jon is so sweet in real life and every role he plays is the total opposite of who he is and he nails every part. so talented
Jon Bernthal is the definition of what it is to be a man and a clear example of how to express your masculinity in a positive non toxic way. Cannot get enough of his content!
What is toxic masculinity?
That episode was a big part of me seeing I need some help. I'm now on medication, going to counseling, and overall happier than I've been in some time. His realness hit home with me in a real way. I know he got some backlash, but ide like him to know I thank him and Shia for coming on and showing me how to step up. Not to share too much, but my best friend decided to check out. I think I was trying to do the same with alcohol and drugs. Pushed everyone away with hate. That episode and my amazing woman never giving up saved me. I'm sorry you got that hate. I thank you.
I don’t if anyone has told you yet - but I’m proud of you.
Glad it helped you too man, and that your lady is sticking with you. I've treated my wife poorly and it's hard to get over the shame. Ive blown up all my relationships but I'm still married somehow. Like you said I pushed people away with hate. Had anger issues and severe bipolar that I wasn't medicated for. Gotten a lot of help and have dedicated to changing the last two years. Which I think I have. Wish you well on your path to healing!
What medication helped?
@@skprincess725 Alexapro and ceraquill . i cant spell at all sorry.
@@nilbognatas7385 Thank you i can never hear it enough/
That has to be the most genuine human exchanges Ive ever seen. You can really tell Jon cares for Shia and doesn’t want him to become irredeemable. Allowing Shia to speak his peace and Jon telling him “Hey that was messed up, and you know you messed up, but I wanna help so it doesn’t happen again” is a truly kind thing to do. We need more people like Jon in this world.
He's also very aware of where he is. Takes balls to talk about these things on the biggest podcast on the planet.
😂😂😂😂😂
These people are weird. All of them. Who even talks like this? He thinks being friends with people saves them. These people are socially awkward and Absolutely nuts and so are you lot for making out this is normal.
Is he Jesus
He's an actor.
I fully support Jon. You're such a great man and such a genuine person. F* any backlash real people support you 100%
Holy you must want some Jon D don’t care either way he had him on for views he’s no friend like he told joe he hear accusations and didn’t talk to him for two years and instead of going to dinner with him or hang out he brings him on podcast for “real” friend how much money did he make off that podcast such great guy how much did he give to womens shelters or causes hmmm $0 tell me it’s not in it for money 💵 lmfao 👍
I'm sure he will take great comfort from your kind words
rEaL pEoPlE SUpOrt yOU 100%
Dude is fake af...LMFAO. Hilarious/sad how many naïve people there are...
Lmao clownshow
Jon is so good hearted. I loved the interview with Shia. I’ve got a lot of respect for both of them
Real men sharing real thoughts and feelings. We need more of this. He's so chill for a guy who plays so many unchill characters.
I really love how respectful both Jon and Joe can be and just sit back and listen without interupting... It's great
This is what other real men (not little boys who got older) discussing things should be. This is real manly behavior. Not rude bravado and toxic anger. Ths strength is stronger ther lifting stregth. Cant get that at the gym. Work your minds and bodys. Be well rounded. Be understanding. Be compassionate.
@@sm-fl4vx❤spot on
EDITING.
Whole new respect for Jon. What a fuckin' guy. We need more friends like him.
he did a great chat with guys in prison who are never to be parrolled so literally they will die in prison it was astounding one of the most moving things I have ever listened to makes you realise that everyone is redeemable if given the right chances .......what these men have learnt about themselves should be taught to everyone at school why do they have to get to a place like prison to be granted the grace to be human
@@helen9289 I mean a high chance of dying in prison but there's always retrials.
Oh yes. Great friend, exiled one of his friends because of what the media said. Didn't bother asking his friend what happened and instead judged his friend based on news stories. Then, when his ratings didn't increase, he decided to get said friend on his podcast for views. Great guy! So thoughtful
@@jenniferp4612 i mean if half the world is saying you done something, you probably did it lol
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽
Jon Bernthal is the best big brother father figure that we all need to have in our corner. We're blessed to live in a world with cats like this around us. Guys like Jon make us better then we ever thought we could be.
Powerful powerful interview. I am so happy he put it on and so grateful to Shia for his courage and openness.
That interview with Shia was probably the best podcast i’ve ever watched in my life. I’ve sent it to a lot of people. We’re all on a journey and it’s great to see other perspectives.
You know that Shia is completely full of ish, right? The guy is one of the biggest scumbags in Hollywood, and that's not easy to accomplish.
He thinks black people deserve to go to hell for their skin tone, and the hatred in his voice and eyes when he said that tells me that's how he truly feels.
If a Conservative had ever made comments even remotely similar to what Shia has made over the years they would be rightfully cancelled. Shia gets a second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth chance for whatever reason.
We're all on a journey, sure, and some of us lie our way through it. Shia is one of those people...
Shia is u think the best actor alive at the moment. He is immensely talented. Most artists are imperfect, & have been in trouble. It’s not a hanging offence. Christianity forgives! Looking forward to seeing him in new movies soon
@@nathanweeks6509 fr
Shia did the interview to try and get back in the game. You all drank the coolaide. “He’s the best actor…” dude is a lunatic and should be in prison.
Same
We all need a friend like Jon. Mad respect
Jon seems like such an honest, caring fellow! Thank you! I loved his interview with Shia as well
The interview to Shia until this very moment is one of the best interviews I have ever seen. Both Shia and Jon where perfect in their roles.❤
If you haven’t seen the interview with Shia I would recommend it. Very powerful, emotional and eye opening to the whole story. He takes full responsibility for the things he’s done & is committed to get his life right.
I agree
Man it almost brings a tear to my eye seeing Jon advocating for men obviously we’re not justifying abuse but it’s important to not just write people off as terrible people and disregard the fact that hurt people hurt people
Nah, only cowardly fggits abuse others, even if they've been abused
Prepare for beatings if you can't control yourself- male or female
As men, we have to help each other because no one really gives a shit about what we go through.
Such a true statement. I’ve been stuck in a abusive relationship for 17 years. Half of my life. I constantly have to make up lies to to cover the black eyes, busted lips, and scratches. It’s a lonely world when you are a men being abused by a woman. No resources, no help, and everyone thinks it’s a big joke. But if the roles were reversed it wouldn’t be a joke to anyone. I’m so scared to leave because my kids are the only family I have. I grew up in state custody and I can’t lose them. But both of my in laws are well known attorneys with unlimited resources. So it’s a tough battle. In my area courts almost always side with the female. So I tough it out so I can be with my kids.
@@johnnycash2238 you’re going to live a life full of regret and be miserable in your older years. I understand where you’re coming from but no one is this world will ever care but YOU and no one can change it but you. Get away from that witch, be copacetic enough for the kids but the day they are 18 never speak to the woman again. Your life is going to be ruined you already will have 17 years of deep shame and regret just allowing it, don’t stand for it any more. WAKE UP PLEASE
@@johnnycash223807Josh is right. You’re doing the right thing by putting your relationship with your kids first. But you’ll have to stand up for you, and them when they’re all old enough. They’ll see it and wonder why you’re not doing anything about it. If you leave too early, they won’t understand why you put your desires and comfort over your relationship with them.
I have been here...and that sit down talk really helped me as a man, and man of faith.....thank you dudes
Such an underrated actor & such a genuine man.
Shia legitimately needed the podcast interview with Jon. He needed to let a lot of emotions out and show who he was at that time.
Hurt people hurt people and for a long time we've just expected men to stomach their hurt with no empathy from society. Shit like Shia beating his girl comes from that. Put insane expectations on us and disregard our trauma, then don't be surprised when incidents like that happen.
I'm sure she is no saint. "Women are more likely than men to stalk, attack and psychologically abuse their partners, according to a University of Florida study" when 2 broken people are together I'm sure they are both to blame. I don't condone his actions but we always side with the women when the women are usually the abuser.
@@dontcare7086 you're literally just saying things out of your ass. You don't even know that woman, who literally wouldn't hurt a fly. SHIA literally said out of his own mouth what he did to her... This weird gaslighting shit you people do is toxic.
FKA Twigs has never even been in the media for anything crazy, yet you've already made an assessment....
@@Bonesawisready926 no they don't
Only abusive cowards hurt others, abuse or not
Speak for yourself
@@lockandloadlikehell I'm talking about at a societal level, to literally say "every hurt person will not hurt others" is idealistic and unrealistic.
Props to Jon for not abandoning his friend. No substitute for loyalty.
He did, for 2 years, until he changed his mind. That's something.
@@yutro213 IMO he did not want to get cancelled by association himself. Yes that's the sad world we are living in today.
I saw the interview and am also glad that he was able to talk to a guy who would just listen to him.
That podcast with Jon & Shia was the best thing I’ve ever listened to. I highly recommend it to any man.
@@SrAntonio301 that's not the only thing Shia has ever done in his life. Jesus Christ
@@SrAntonio301 If somebody makes a mistake, does that mean we can’t learn from them?
Same it was great it showed a lot of growth in Shia
@@SrAntonio301 why, are you coming from the perspective of someone that's never listened to over two hours of conversation that they had?
Clearly you didn't watch/listen to the podcast.
Also, get your facts straight before you run your self righteous mouth please sir. Huge difference between abuse and assault.
@@SrAntonio301 You win the award for the stupidest thing said 🏆
Judge someone all you want, but never condemn them. Everybody deserves an opportunity to change, nobody should be defined by who they were, or maybe even who they are right now, every person on the planet can be better, don't take the right to be better away by trying to condemn, that's not your place.
I have always said Shia is underrated #1 best actor. His approach to his roles has solidified my belief in him!
#1 actor is entirely subjective. He's pretty good, but there's so many I couldn't imagine somehow narrowing it down to a single one
Shia was ahead of his time, one of the best actors of his generation. I need more Shia movies!
Agreed. I feel like Hollywood really pimped him out and I'm just so glad he was able to persevere through all the bull shit.
Was an amazing interview was in tears watching this guy opening up about mistakes he made, hey we’ve all done shit we ain’t proud of (no way saying what he did wasn’t horrendous) but he owned it 👏🏻
The empathy this man has is priceless,we all need a friend like Jon in our life.
we also need to be the same sort of friend to others
Shia LeBouf (probably spelled improperly) is one of the kindest most sincere people I’ve had the privilege of meeting. My son and I were at San Fran airport and got to meet him with no one around and he couldn’t have been any more polite and inviting. Just a genuine guy with a great heart. He could have easily said man I’m eating or I’m trying to read. But he didn’t.
He's a commie small hat. Dime a dozen
He didn't look very polite when he was screaming into people's ears
It’s just PR.
Did he look like a hobo back then, too?
Wow, what a great anecdote about a meeting a guy in an airport that systematically violently abused a woman physically and emotionally.
🙄
I randomly tuned into this clip after searching for that transformers meme. I listened to half of this one and paused it to visit Jon Bernthal’s Real Ones podcast. In that interview Shia was fully transparent. In every aspect of that conversation he had a well thought out intelligent response. He was genuine and honest and tried to conceal nothing. I don’t know how you can dislike the guy or try to defame him. He’s honest and real and I love hearing his thought process.
This is sooo poetic… I love Shia… He’s so genuine.
I respect people like this, those who help people that have done fucked up things get better. Thats a much better (and way harder to handle) thing than just completely dismissing a person that can improve. This causes a positive change in the world, where dismissing a person (unless necessary) can make things worse for the world sometimes.
Amen! The way he said that, really made me think about all the “friends” that turned their back on me if I made poor decisions & the very few that didn’t & always try to help me be better.
Have you seen
"Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions About Cobalt Mining For TESLA Batteries"
Anybody can do it. Kairos prison ministry has been doing this for a long time. Its great to hear a rich jewish kid like Jon out acting like a christian. Maybe he could get his billionaire family to donate to the cause?
Wow. Well said. Thank you for this 👍
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽
I watched the clip and it brought me to tears, because you could feel everything he said even without going through what Shia has gone through in his life. Obviously abuse in any form is not something be swept away but at the same time as he said a lot of the time instead of rehabilitating people who have done things they regret themselves a lot of the time society decides they should be thrown away somewhere left alone, vs what Jon did and have a real conversation of healing and understanding to the point where there was no judgement just words between two people, you could tell even though Jon was disgusted by what Shia might have done, that as a real friend he wasn’t just going to just cut him off but instead wanted to be someone who can be there for him to check on him give it to him straight etc. you can tell he wants the best for him
everyone deserves the chances to redeem themselves if we are truely to be a compassionate society we need to help people see the good in themselves so that they can grow & become a better human but they need to want to do that first. Jon's conversations with people on his pod cast are very much like Joe Rogan's more about the guest than the interviewer ...they are all important conversations & I find I learn lots from them all
That’s what real MF are about!!
Brought u to tears ? Jesus Christ u need therapy it sounds like
Didnt he lie about honey boy ? I swear on the shiea in an interview said he made honeyboy up…look it up
😭😭😭😭
That podcast/interview with Shia was absolutely amazing and one of my favorite podcasts/interviews ever (along with Rogan/David Choe and a few others). Just the realness, rawness, and honesty to them are amazing. The deep emotion and willingness to put yourself out there and show your vulnerability makes any conversation/interview amazing no matter who you are or what you’ve done
Shia was so honest and open during that interview. When he started crying talking about the love and loyalty his wife showed him while at his lowest was not a performance he was being so genuine. Thats one of the best interviews ive seen.
Jon is a real friend, Hollywood needs more men like him. His Shia Interview/Podcast is one the best… definitely worth a listen.
More men who go on and on loving the sound of his own voice I guess.
Honestly I was like this shit is 2hrs long I’m not watching this….. ended up watching it more than once
@@EastSide-qc5oy u dickriding everywhere
“Greater love has no one than this. That a man would give his life to save his friends.”
-John 15:13
Praise the Lord
I don't know anything about but that is a amazing qoute....or whatever you call sometime said in the bible...I think I will remember that for the rest of my life....thank you
it's a good way to give your minions warrior boners before you send them to die
@@360.Tapestry lmfao...that's funny damn
You don’t cancel a friend over something from years ago when drinking
True legend right here for sticking by a friends side through their struggles. Shia Labeouf podcast was real, and raw. Respect for both those gentlemen.
Met him in Las Vegas randomly at a carousel while his daughter was riding. He’s absolutely gracious and kind and will remain a favorite celeb because of that. Oh, and because his Punisher character is the best Marvel depiction so far… (I know I know, Wolverine in Logan was 🔥)
You would think he would learn not to put his kids on a carousel though
@@kendelservaty huh
@@kendelservaty LMAO Frank still didn’t learn from his mistakes 😂
@@kendelservaty 😂😂😂
@@blizzzyyy1663If you watched the show The Punisher which had Josh in it, you’d get the joke.
Bless Jon. Just as much as victims need help, people going down the wrong path need help as well. You cant spotlight one and turn your back on the other. If only more people were able to see both sides of things in life.
What did Shia do to these women ?
This this this !!!
@@sumstuff6956 look it up, Shia LeBoef and FKA Twigs. He admitted that he abused her. Jon is saying "he may have done those things" etc but he has admitted it. He strangled her, he threatened her, he knowingly infected her with an STD, he violently attacked her and he drove around at night shooting stray dogs to "get into character".
This isn't a he said she said situation, he 100% did it.
@@islabee94 what a piece of shit I knew by the way rogan was saying “right” etc that joe wasn’t feelin what he was saying I’ve followed joe for many years became obsessive at one point love joe and know when he thinks a guest is full of shit I’m guessing rogan wasn’t buying his bullshit when he said “I can’t roll wiv women abusers or child abusers “ then went on to try and pull the wool over joes eyes an explain how he made an exception for this particular woman abuser I’ve always thought Jon is full of shit he was on rogans befire trying to make out like he was some kind of tuff guy gangster WHILST he was still acting and joe was giving the same kinda reaction that Jon berandal has confirmed with this that he’s full of shit and spineless typical actor can tell joe ain’t buying his justification
You CANNOT help people in need of help UNLESS THEY accept, seek, welcome help. This is from my experience over 4+ decades. Only if they are WILLING to get better, learn, change, whatever you coin the phrase, nothing changes. Heart breaking feeling to be helpless witnessing self destruction.
John Bernthal is 1 dude i look up to. So grounded after a rough time. I would love to sit down and just chat with this dude. Super ground genuine nice dude 👌
Many years ago when my kids were watching Even Stevens....I said that Shia was going to go far with his acting talent.
Fast forward to the present...
I can see in his eyes that he harbors some deep pain.
I wish him a lot of good vibes/energy...and peace of mind. ❤