Not really, all Thawne ever wanted was to be The Flash but his powers revealed that he was meant to be The Reverse Flash, so he use the ultimate uno card to reverse the story. In a way, Thawn got what he ever truly wanted.
@@rar8532 actually there's one person I can think of that can outmatch Vegeta. The only person that can outmatch Vegeta physically in a fight causing collateral damage and destruction is Doomsday
@@extroxfps in comics Every bad thing ever happens with flash is done by reverse flash. And he uses this phrase "It was me, Barry. I was the one who..."
My dad once told me then when he was taking some filmmaking classes that his professor always said that EVERYTHING on screen is there for a reason and its things like that that prove it. (just noticed if you look behind the 2 at that time stamp behind both of them is their original lightning color)
As evil as Eobard's plan is, when you think about it it's also kinda sad. Despite how much he hates Barry, deep down more than anything Eobard still admires the Flash. He said in The Flash 2x11 "I was obsessed with you. For so long I wanted to be the Flash" and in recent comics he said that ruining Barry's life was honestly the best way he could think of to get Barry to spend time with him and give him attention. Thawne may be evil, but more than anything he's just a sad man who wishes more than anything to be able to spend time with his idol and be like him. And this scene proves that no matter how deep Eobard's hatred is for Barry, he still wants to be just like his idol, it's just the fact that when he learned of his destiny to be the Reverse Flash he couldn't handle it so it drove him to villainy.
I mean you can only imagine how shocking how world breaking figuring out you are always going to be your idols greatest enemy and that he was going to kill you.
Dude Thawne is really angry, even angrier than usual. The fact that Barry didn't take him this serious the last time, really hit him. You can actually feel Thawnes "WHO IS FASTER NOW?!".
@X-777 yeah, because that’s the only way Thawne could think of to spend time with Barry (Rebirth Ver., not Pre New 52 where he just seeks to kill Barry).
@@theunknownvoidz1409 About that. I think you can add the fact that he wants to kill him because Eobard saw and studied all of his deaths too. He revealed that he did it just after he killed August Heart / Godspeed, revealing also that he created Zoom and Godspeed.
@@slade-joseph-wilson1822 The timeline is convulsioning in pain and agony at thawne'se shenanigans.... then again given it is a "reset" timeline thanks to the restoration of the multiverse, it might be easier to mold
@@ВардотКапрелло The only reason I can ignore that they chose Tom as RF and not Matt, Is because it makes sense within the story. Eobard still steals the identity of Harrison Wells, He still makes the Particle Accelerator explode. The only difference is apperantly he disclosed his true identity to team Flash afterwards. It makes sense he is wearing the face of Harrison Wells because otherwise timeline would've erased him the moment he killed Barry as a child.
@@Kronosfobi Well no. First appeareance of Wells-Thawne happened in Crisis X. They never explained why Wells-Thawne is still alive. The answer from Thawne was:"Time travel is hard to explain" or something like that. It more makes sense, if some of time remnants of Thawne figured out that something wrong with Timeline. There is only 2 explanations, Crisis X Thawne is Thawne from season 1(it doesn't make sense, because he lost his speed and permanently erased) or he took one of Harrison Wells's face, still wrong, because he take Wells's face due to his plan. Simple answer is this: "Its much cheapier to take Cavanaugh and using him as other Wellses and Thawne".
The sheer pettiness of killing Joe like that. Thawne racing through time and space, just going, "Oh, right, Joe West. I remember him." (Shove) "F-ck that guy."
Man this scene was so good thawnes plan was so villainous and psychotic we haven’t seen anything good from the reverse flash since season 1 or a good interesting story at that
I always knew Thawn was pure evil but he found a way to take the term to a whole new level. He took everyone and everything from Barry and tried to erase him from history in the process. It also shows how much his envy of Barry is what fuels his dark desires. All those years wanting to be him and he came up with a way to do it in the most cruel and evil way possible.
Anyone else thinks it’s cool that Reverse Flash’s suit finally has the red boots? Now all we need is the golden boots for The Flash’s suit and I will be really happy
OH MY GO- I KNEW there was something that made me really like Reverse Flashs' costume this episode, and I couldn't put my finger on it. I completely overlooked the boots. And now that you mention it and I watch this scene again, I see it. It's totally the boots. 👍
I really want to see just HOW this timeline happened. I mean, Thawne is not a bad looking dude, but I feel like the age gap between him and Iris might make a few people go "hmm," least of all Joe. Then again, Thawne loves just wiping loose ends and annoyances from existence in his own timeline, so other people probably wouldn't be a factor.
it also shows how iris chose barry because he was the flash , not because she loved him, shows a lot about a character when you see it that way,she would marry a 50 year old man if he is "the flash".
Barry: “What did you do to her?” Thawne: “I did what you failed to do. I was there for her. Iris and I, we understand each other.” Barry: “She doesn't know what you are.” Thawne: “Barry, she knows me very well. And when she kissed me, it was just like she used to kiss me. That taste...Strawberries.” *they start fighting with jazzy music in the background*
If you ask me that line is one of the worst and also the most overused lines in the entire show. It's not romantic, it's not cute it's literally laughably cringey. I mean literally the first time it was used in the show was when Barry wanted Oliver to say it to Iris and his reaction was him laughing... that says a lot
So you're telling me that now that i dropped this show because Tom Cavanagh left, they bring him back with this?! He's the best part of this serie, they are tempting me
same. season 1 and two were amazing. three and four were ok. i cant even remember much of the other seasons. and decided to not watch this one. but after this I am considering getting back into it.
@@rickymorphew2245 in my opinion: season 1 best season eason 2 kinda has trouble with the whole "repeating traitor among the team" but still has its solid points season 3 is kinda boring but dear goodness it has the best season finale (if you combine the last 2 episodes into 1). and it kinda improves once it has a clear arc (savitar will kill iris at this date), even if it frustratingly drags the reveal of who savitar is season 4 has an entertaining first half even if it kinda goes downhill once the "trial of barry allen" arc gets resolved season 5 is slow on first half but once it is revealed thawne is involved with nora, it picks up a little season 6's frist half is good, with its best episode being the last temptation of barry allen part 1, but second half is painful because, is like the show has no idea what to do now that "flash vanishes missing in crisis" plot point has been resolved season 7 i haven't seen it, but from spoilers I saw, it really has no idea what it was trying to do and kinda was trying to throw anything to the wall to see what would stick with poorly received results
@@ianr.navahuber2195 yea 7 was all over the place and terrible writing. I just went back and caught myself up on 8 and am gonna watch this and see where it goes
You can't help but be impressed how far Thawne is willing to go just to get what he wants. The 1st one was just to go home, The 2nd one was to escape iron heights, And now he went this far just become the Flash. I bet Barry wish he finished off Thawne when he had the chance Instead of literally letting him go!
I haven't watched the Flash in years but lm hoping this is the eye opener Barry needs to finally cut Thawne off. Even if he somehow comes back. At least it will delay the problems he has caused.
@@hiroshiramasendjews9539 *SPOILER!* nah, literally the next episode they learn RF is about to be erased from existence *permanently.* In a way he cant comeback like he always does. He asks for help, and they save him because they are ''the heroes''.
1:23 Arrowverse's Eobard Thawne living up to the level of pettiness his comic book counterpart is known for, timeline be damned..... Kinda makes me wish we could have "Season 1 Eobard meeting Present Eobard". At least to see Season 1 Eobard calling out on his present self about "You could finally go back home in the future, WHY YOU DIDN'T DO THAT?!" and Present day Eobard telling him everything Barry and Team flash have made him go through justifying his insane vengueance That could be interesting to see
Season 7 team flash: “we’ll bring back Thawne to help Barry fight Godspeed, What could possibly go wrong” Season 8: “so let me explain to you how you’ve just handed me a loaded gun”
@@danielhawthorn6639 why is the term "Make America Great Again" an insult. Shouldnt we want to make America great again The guy is right. We have people who have nothing else to do except cancel and harass others because they didn't say something perfectly or being they weren't sensitive enough. Meanwhile, there are starving people all around the world. It's embarrassing
@@davids.3584 the reason the term make America 🇺🇸 great again is an insult is because when has America ever been great it’s when we had slaves or what time the 50s 60s 70s 80s the point is it was never great
Only problem with this whole idea is that thawne would be weak as fuck. Barry's speed force thrives off positive emotions such as love. Thawne only feels bitter hatred so he'd be even slower than Barry in season 1.Barry doesn't hate many people but he hates Thawne meaning it would be easy to wipe him.
Nah not exactly. You can get faster with the regular speed force so and there's ways of boosting it so his idea is actually pretty sound the writer's actually have solid idea here.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. We saw in the Elseworlds crossover that Barry has loads of repressed anger he can draw on. But Eobard doesn’t have many positive emotions. Then again, Barry at 5% and working with the Negative Speed Force was still faster than Eobard this whole episode.
I wish he would’ve said “It was me Barry... I started by doing a little housekeeping at star labs. And Then, I took care of the one father you had left” Also: 2:34 that line is so dark i love it. Imagine young Barry sleeping in his astronaut bed and his fucking fish tank water starts rising, then a man in a yellow suit slaughters him... omg
@MostaVerse Creating a new timeline with new events and things in the future. Since this timeline’s Flash created the still force, he was able to go back in time using the negative still force and make those major changes to the timeline to defeat The Flash without making the same mistake he did back in season one- getting stuck in the past.
Where the fuck even is Dion? Nora not being there kinda makes sense (Although the Speed Force is a multiversal god, she should still know the real timeline, but I suppose this alternate timeline could leave her confused), but Dion is a time god! He should be there to give Barry some backup
@@endamcnabola nope season 1 at the end he told Barry he so obsessed with the flash he wanted to be come him only to find out that he was destined to be coming it's greatest villain
Honestly nothing was this good or up to par since flash was infected by bloodwork. At least, as such it's not over yet and I hope there is a season 8 story that full circles to the future with Matt letsch reverse flash.
This sort of implies that no one loved Barry Allen and instead just loved The Flash. Also, if Barry was killed as a kid in this timeline, how did he become Reverse-Flash?
Tom Cavanaugh is an amazing actor he does an amazing job playing these other versions of Harrison Wells really well but his reverse flash Harrison Wells is just on a whole nother level
so, does this mean that in this timeline, thawne has the norm speed force while barry has the negative one? wouldn't that make him immune to timeline changes or smth?
Possibly but more than likely not like he implied it to Barry who at the time would’ve done anything to save Nora, and Thawne told him the negative speed force would save her possibly just as a paradox kinda like how he survived after Eddie shot himself as a remnant. But we see the effects in season 1 he gets stuck in the past after loosing the majority of his speed from killing Barry’s mom making him not become the flash until he created the flash earlier this time. Then Eddie died he got erased but a copy that went back and killed Barrys mother was left for the paradox not to occur chicken and egg. As technically he ran back got stuck and Eddie was still alive to be his ancestor up until he shot himself erasing Thawne. Season 3 him not using his speed was helping him not change with the timeline as fast from flashpoint. But this Barry was killed as a child before he had his speed meaning there’s nothing to protect him as you can’t give speed to a corpse. Creating a flashpoint which are major shifts in the timeline vs smaller inconsequential changes.
@@coals6262 how could he make him reverse flash if he killed him as a child? Shit just doesn't make sense and they clearly started at the end and worked their way back when it came to writing this.
@@bitchface235 probably did so right before killing him. He did the da stove first then probably took over Barry’s life and took the lightning in 2013 at some point he created reverse flash Barry then later on decided to risky to keep him around and went back and killed him as a child
Thawne legit just going and killing child Barry anyway after already messing with Barry's life and also taking over Barry's life is the pettiest thing ever and I love it.
Did someone notice that it was a subtle nod to what Thawne tried to do in the comics? He once tried to take Barry's place and being struck by the lightning that gave the Flash his powers. Problem? He started to be erased from existence because of his status being dependant upon Barry's, so he instead ran from his lab and failed. In short, Armageddon showed us what if Thawne succeded what he failed to do in the comics.
It just got to me, Iris is literally Barry's lightning rod, because just like lightning rod that gave Barry his powers, Iris restored his connection to the speedforce!
It’s very cool to see how Eobard learned from killing Barry’s mother causing him to get stuck in time so that when he changes the timeline he does it smarter so he can manipulate it like a chess board.
Season 8 actually looks promising might start watching it again. Shame we’ll never get to see Eobards real face again anytime soon until probably the final season and when they’re finally able to get Matt back.
@@xdtony650 I stopped watching at season 6 really bored me tf out, This video recommendation got me thinking, is it worth watching season 7 just to keep up
@@dro634 pacing was really weird because of Covid. Cast were almost never together and makes you wonder where certain character were when they would be super useful if they were present.
They just don't want to pay for the actor. The actor has publicly stated that he wants to come back to reprise his role. However, he's too expensive for the show's budget so they just re-use Tom Cavanaugh because it's cheaper.
2:32 So I suppose, in this version of the convulsing in pain and screaming in agaony timeline, Thawne went back in time, just after the long gone future flash saved his child self to kill him right there and then guided his "stuck in the past" version to become Flash.... THat or Thawne went extra petty and killed both Barry and his mom while she was giving birth and everyone in the room because I can see Eobard Thawne doing that
You know what's funny when flash made Flashpoint everything went to hell but when Reverse-Flash made his version he was on cloud 9 wow gotta say Reverse Flash has outdone himself.
So, Thawne took Barry's place... Which has the Wells disguise making even less sense. This *definitely* should have had Thawne in his original form, i.e. Matt Letscher reprising the role.
Here’s what I don’t understand. Thawne mentioned that he travelled to 2013 and made sure that he was the one struck by lightning instead of Barry. Considering that he said 2013, I’m assuming that this is the same bolt from the particle accelerator that his younger self caused that year. So does this mean that there were two people with Well’s face during that time. Did Thawne fight himself?
Thawne really gone crazy when he become the flash and barry as the reverse flash and the way the Thawne behave crazy, rage and a psychopath in this season.
Now I can see how Childish Thawn actually is. In season 1 barry was like a baby chick in his hand and he could control everything. but now that barry is actually superior than Thawn, he just wants to win and fknd every way to win just to get the laugh on barry’s face.
They went from having to run around in circles to throw lightning but now they can throw lightning without having to run around in circles they're really getting more powerful
Wait so that means, when Barry “restored” the timeline, wouldn’t he have side effects from it, since it was changed from a reverse flashpoint? Just like he had side effects and losing memories when he created the first flashpoint in Season 3.
Plastic Time: History can be changed, but there can be consequences from doing so. For example, in Superman #146, Superman travels back in time and accidentally prevents the destruction of Krypton, creating a new timeline where he never becomes Superman 1.Parallel Universes: Time travel to your own actual past or future is impossible, and all time travel does is either shift you into a parallel universe, or into an alternate timeline. For example, in Action Comics #399, Superman travels to the future and finds himself on a parallel Earth where he is married to Lois Lane and has a son named Clark Jr1.
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The ultimate "it was me"
He pretty much pulled wally’s strings in the comic that led to heroes in crisis
Eobard thawne is fucking crazy bro 💀
Kono thawne-o da!
Dio!
It was me, Barry.
Thawne is one of the most dedicated villains he just doesn't give up
GIVE UP??
I don't think he knows the meaning of that phrase
@@redemption9671 duh
dedicated? Try obsessed.
@@Seorful well yes that too
Thawne will never gonna let us down..
Thawne is as petty as Vegeta is prideful 😂
No one can match Vegeta
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Not really, all Thawne ever wanted was to be The Flash but his powers revealed that he was meant to be The Reverse Flash, so he use the ultimate uno card to reverse the story. In a way, Thawn got what he ever truly wanted.
Nah he's extremely petty, that's why he's psychotic. He's obsessed with Barry. "I'm every bad day you've ever had"
@@rar8532 actually there's one person I can think of that can outmatch Vegeta. The only person that can outmatch Vegeta physically in a fight causing collateral damage and destruction is Doomsday
@@rar8532 IS THAT ME STRONGER THAN ME? I’LL FUCKING KILL ME
Thawne knew about plot armor so literally made sure he's the main character
Watch an edit of Thawne if u think he's goated th-cam.com/video/ojTPUYTX3_k/w-d-xo.html
Like a real G
And yet he was still defeated 😂
@@HaloPrime212 cuz he ain't the true main character
🤣
Thawne took the whole "It was me Barry" to a insane level.
I'm always one step ahead.
He does lust for Iris in the comics so this explains a lot 😭
@@GreatWideWonder Gross🤮
The fact that they literally brought the “It was me Barry” meme to life is just beyond hilarious
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what?
@@extroxfps in comics
Every bad thing ever happens with flash is done by reverse flash.
And he uses this phrase "It was me, Barry. I was the one who..."
@@goodboy3982 that didn’t help me understand it any better lmao. your grammar sucks
They didn't say that in the episode tho
"It was me, Barry," brought to its ultimate conclusion.
Underrated comment
This is even more personal than “I f*@&ed your wife”. I kind of respect the dedication to that level of pettiness.
@@conorgleeson2453 While in this flashpoint Thawn actually might have…
2:17 red lighting on Barry's face and yellow lighting on Thawne's, now that's what I call perfection
thanks for pointing that out. really seals the symbolism here
My dad once told me then when he was taking some filmmaking classes that his professor always said that EVERYTHING on screen is there for a reason and its things like that that prove it. (just noticed if you look behind the 2 at that time stamp behind both of them is their original lightning color)
@@Zepicful does your dad also know that the sky is blue and that vegetables are good for you?
@@kevinescobar370 no, it is???? ive never seen the sky im deaf
Thawne's eyes flash red.
As evil as Eobard's plan is, when you think about it it's also kinda sad. Despite how much he hates Barry, deep down more than anything Eobard still admires the Flash. He said in The Flash 2x11 "I was obsessed with you. For so long I wanted to be the Flash" and in recent comics he said that ruining Barry's life was honestly the best way he could think of to get Barry to spend time with him and give him attention. Thawne may be evil, but more than anything he's just a sad man who wishes more than anything to be able to spend time with his idol and be like him. And this scene proves that no matter how deep Eobard's hatred is for Barry, he still wants to be just like his idol, it's just the fact that when he learned of his destiny to be the Reverse Flash he couldn't handle it so it drove him to villainy.
@X-777 wow id want to see that
So, Reverse Flash is basically...Syndrome. A super-fan gone bad...damn.
@@Fifthmiracle yep Reverse Flash is a Stan
I mean you can only imagine how shocking how world breaking figuring out you are always going to be your idols greatest enemy and that he was going to kill you.
all he wanted to do was to be recognize by the people as a hero like allen…
Dude Thawne is really angry, even angrier than usual. The fact that Barry didn't take him this serious the last time, really hit him. You can actually feel Thawnes "WHO IS FASTER NOW?!".
@X-777 yeah, because that’s the only way Thawne could think of to spend time with Barry (Rebirth Ver., not Pre New 52 where he just seeks to kill Barry).
@@theunknownvoidz1409 About that. I think you can add the fact that he wants to kill him because Eobard saw and studied all of his deaths too. He revealed that he did it just after he killed August Heart / Godspeed, revealing also that he created Zoom and Godspeed.
This is what happens when you let the bad guys get away.
yes this is why flash is stupid asf
Yep, especially Thawne. Barry sure regrets saying “well thats future us’ problem 🤷🏽♂️”
No he didn’t let him get away reverse flash has become a paradox meaning no matter what Barry does can defeat him because another one pops up.
@@albertgutierrez7036 I forgot about that not gonna lie
Tell that to goku man
They could do a whole season, half a season at least, with this idea.
Sadly it’s gonna be just like Flashpoint….over in a second
I hope not but you’re probably right
@@frozen310 they already said that its only 5 episodes
I wish you are one of the directors or script writers hehe
@@dominiquerichard1342 I think that’s longer than what flashpoint was
@@dominiquerichard1342 As for now it's 5 episodes but then show goes on a break till march and comes back with rest of the season 8
Season 1 was actually already a reverse flashpoint. Created when thawn killed Nora the first time.
Wich thawn had to undo to get back to his time. Just like Barry in flashpoint.
It's a reversed mirrored flashpoint
@@slade-joseph-wilson1822 The timeline is convulsioning in pain and agony at thawne'se shenanigans....
then again given it is a "reset" timeline thanks to the restoration of the multiverse, it might be easier to mold
Legends of tomorrow also did it in legends of tomorrow
why does no one ask what happened to OG barry
Thawne has been carrying this show for so long. He really gets better as the seasons go on
Facts
Not really
@X-777 season 2-4 were original storylines but everything after that was botched.
@@damienlu7318 Reverse Flash is better than Zoom and he is the best Villain.
worse* you mean.
“Now who’s the villain, Flash? Now who’s the villain?!”
“Who’s faster now?!”
Same vibes
Too bad it wasn't Matt's reverse flash. Tom Cavanaugh is great too. But for Armageddon it would've been better if Thawne put on his original face
@@mrj4082 agreed
@@mrj4082 This is because they overused Tom Cavanaugh.
@@ВардотКапрелло The only reason I can ignore that they chose Tom as RF and not Matt, Is because it makes sense within the story.
Eobard still steals the identity of Harrison Wells, He still makes the Particle Accelerator explode. The only difference is apperantly he disclosed his true identity to team Flash afterwards. It makes sense he is wearing the face of Harrison Wells because otherwise timeline would've erased him the moment he killed Barry as a child.
@@Kronosfobi Well no. First appeareance of Wells-Thawne happened in Crisis X. They never explained why Wells-Thawne is still alive. The answer from Thawne was:"Time travel is hard to explain" or something like that. It more makes sense, if some of time remnants of Thawne figured out that something wrong with Timeline. There is only 2 explanations, Crisis X Thawne is Thawne from season 1(it doesn't make sense, because he lost his speed and permanently erased) or he took one of Harrison Wells's face, still wrong, because he take Wells's face due to his plan. Simple answer is this: "Its much cheapier to take Cavanaugh and using him as other Wellses and Thawne".
The sheer pettiness of killing Joe like that.
Thawne racing through time and space, just going, "Oh, right, Joe West. I remember him." (Shove) "F-ck that guy."
Lmao I was thinking the same thing!! And Barry just shrugs it off
💀
That’s fucked up but funny in a way damm joe couldn’t have gotten a better death.
bro thawne is so petty this man holds the smallest of grudges
Well Joe did say that he would go after him no matter what time line he went to. And that was season one, guess Thawne still remembered that.
Man this scene was so good thawnes plan was so villainous and psychotic we haven’t seen anything good from the reverse flash since season 1 or a good interesting story at that
Thawne always wanted to be a hero, The Flash. But his powers revealed that he was never gonna be, so he pulled the ultimate reverse uno card.
Bro wrong. Everytime he has showed up was a W
nah every single time thawne shows up something good happens like the scene at the end of season 5 for example
@@CatchBackNewss Nah, cap. You're wong, not them.
SO GOOD..IT FELT LIKE SEASON 1 OR 2 AGAIN
LOL Thawne just passing through and killing Joe like that is the best laugh I've had in a LOOOOOOONG time, like seriously.
bro doesn’t even need to be creative with it, man just did it to be petty 😂
Lmao it wasn't even a pit stop
Bro I’m dead like damn man why they do joe like that.
@@manny123957 because he was useless
ikr like joe's easily in my top 3 fav characters in the show when i used to watch it but them killing him off like that made me cry of laughter
1:30 “it was me Barry” vibes
I always knew Thawn was pure evil but he found a way to take the term to a whole new level. He took everyone and everything from Barry and tried to erase him from history in the process. It also shows how much his envy of Barry is what fuels his dark desires. All those years wanting to be him and he came up with a way to do it in the most cruel and evil way possible.
He lived in that timeline for 18 years until Barry came, no wonder he was so desperate saying:”And it should have worked.” Regarding Armageddon
Anyone else thinks it’s cool that Reverse Flash’s suit finally has the red boots? Now all we need is the golden boots for The Flash’s suit and I will be really happy
Well is only a matter of time
@X-777 took us 8 seasons but it finally happened
OH MY GO- I KNEW there was something that made me really like Reverse Flashs' costume this episode, and I couldn't put my finger on it.
I completely overlooked the boots. And now that you mention it and I watch this scene again, I see it. It's totally the boots. 👍
It’s more up to date to be honest
@@joshuagallatin8271 oh definitely up to date
This is the closest thing we are gonna get to "It was me Barry"
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I really want to see just HOW this timeline happened. I mean, Thawne is not a bad looking dude, but I feel like the age gap between him and Iris might make a few people go "hmm," least of all Joe. Then again, Thawne loves just wiping loose ends and annoyances from existence in his own timeline, so other people probably wouldn't be a factor.
Thawne living up to the level of pettiness his comic book self is known for
it also shows how iris chose barry because he was the flash , not because she loved him, shows a lot about a character when you see it that way,she would marry a 50 year old man if he is "the flash".
@@mudit_mathur Lmfao
@@mudit_mathur way to make people who dislike iris hate her even more. 10/10 writing
Something that makes me wonder, were there two Wells looking Thawnes at 2013-2014?
Barry: “What did you do to her?”
Thawne: “I did what you failed to do. I was there for her. Iris and I, we understand each other.”
Barry: “She doesn't know what you are.”
Thawne: “Barry, she knows me very well. And when she kissed me, it was just like she used to kiss me. That taste...Strawberries.”
*they start fighting with jazzy music in the background*
That kinda reminds me that sound familiar, it’s from spider-man 3 when Peter and Harry fighting each other
@@devellestewart2037 (I can’t tell if ur joking, but if ur not) that’s literally the joke lol
I love this comment.
@@Itz_Braze I had a feeling that it was Spider-Man 3.
Genius 🤣
0:18 "Iris youre my lightning rod" probably the greatest piece of dialogue ive ever heard 😂
If you ask me that line is one of the worst and also the most overused lines in the entire show. It's not romantic, it's not cute it's literally laughably cringey. I mean literally the first time it was used in the show was when Barry wanted Oliver to say it to Iris and his reaction was him laughing... that says a lot
So you're telling me that now that i dropped this show because Tom Cavanagh left, they bring him back with this?! He's the best part of this serie, they are tempting me
same. season 1 and two were amazing. three and four were ok. i cant even remember much of the other seasons. and decided to not watch this one. but after this I am considering getting back into it.
@@rickymorphew2245 in my opinion:
season 1 best season
eason 2 kinda has trouble with the whole "repeating traitor among the team" but still has its solid points
season 3 is kinda boring but dear goodness it has the best season finale (if you combine the last 2 episodes into 1). and it kinda improves once it has a clear arc (savitar will kill iris at this date), even if it frustratingly drags the reveal of who savitar is
season 4 has an entertaining first half even if it kinda goes downhill once the "trial of barry allen" arc gets resolved
season 5 is slow on first half but once it is revealed thawne is involved with nora, it picks up a little
season 6's frist half is good, with its best episode being the last temptation of barry allen part 1, but second half is painful because, is like the show has no idea what to do now that "flash vanishes missing in crisis" plot point has been resolved
season 7 i haven't seen it, but from spoilers I saw, it really has no idea what it was trying to do and kinda was trying to throw anything to the wall to see what would stick with poorly received results
@@ianr.navahuber2195 yea 7 was all over the place and terrible writing. I just went back and caught myself up on 8 and am gonna watch this and see where it goes
This season has been better than season 4,5,6, and 7 combined. So far so good
The Flash is trash everytime Cavanagh is not on screen. This scene was nice but i don't thing is good enough to watch the rest of the terrible show
If “it was me Barry” was a whole goddamn episode
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I'm getting 'IT WAS ME, BARRY!' vibes from this. Incredible.
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1:00 I’m sorry but the way he drops on the rails and gets killed is just hilarious.
Tom Cavanagh's acting is on point for this scene. And episode in general
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Grand Gustin and Tom Cavanagh are by far the best actors
I'm always one step ahead.
You can't help but be impressed how far Thawne is willing to go just to get what he wants. The 1st one was just to go home, The 2nd one was to escape iron heights, And now he went this far just become the Flash. I bet Barry wish he finished off Thawne when he had the chance Instead of literally letting him go!
He also basically led s5 Nora to erase herself from the timeline to escape his death sentence
I haven't watched the Flash in years but lm hoping this is the eye opener Barry needs to finally cut Thawne off. Even if he somehow comes back. At least it will delay the problems he has caused.
@@hiroshiramasendjews9539
*SPOILER!*
nah, literally the next episode they learn RF is about to be erased from existence *permanently.* In a way he cant comeback like he always does.
He asks for help, and they save him because they are ''the heroes''.
I feel like a lot of people, like me, hasn’t watched any flash in a longggg time. But this makes me want to start again
Yeah i stop at crisis i need to go back
Basically every season past s2 felt like filler
@@LikeADerp99 tbh everything pasy 4 and a bit of 5 I ain't watched
That whole savitar season kinda killed it for me I loved zoom and thawne tho
True
1:23 Arrowverse's Eobard Thawne living up to the level of pettiness his comic book counterpart is known for, timeline be damned.....
Kinda makes me wish we could have "Season 1 Eobard meeting Present Eobard". At least to see Season 1 Eobard calling out on his present self about "You could finally go back home in the future, WHY YOU DIDN'T DO THAT?!" and Present day Eobard telling him everything Barry and Team flash have made him go through justifying his insane vengueance
That could be interesting to see
"and the only way..." It's so cool thawne use the same sentences trough the season
Season 7 team flash: “we’ll bring back Thawne to help Barry fight Godspeed, What could possibly go wrong”
Season 8: “so let me explain to you how you’ve just handed me a loaded gun”
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Good for Thawne he never gave up on his dream to beat the Flash and it finally worked out. I like people that don't give up on their dreams.
XDDDD
Well my dream is to one day have a non-woke world
@@DgardsGaming Poor MAGA snowflake.
@@danielhawthorn6639 why is the term "Make America Great Again" an insult. Shouldnt we want to make America great again
The guy is right. We have people who have nothing else to do except cancel and harass others because they didn't say something perfectly or being they weren't sensitive enough. Meanwhile, there are starving people all around the world. It's embarrassing
@@davids.3584 the reason the term make America 🇺🇸 great again is an insult is because when has America ever been great it’s when we had slaves or what time the 50s 60s 70s 80s the point is it was never great
Only problem with this whole idea is that thawne would be weak as fuck. Barry's speed force thrives off positive emotions such as love. Thawne only feels bitter hatred so he'd be even slower than Barry in season 1.Barry doesn't hate many people but he hates Thawne meaning it would be easy to wipe him.
This thawne is getting old
Nah not exactly. You can get faster with the regular speed force so and there's ways of boosting it so his idea is actually pretty sound the writer's actually have solid idea here.
But Thawne has had the normal speed force before switching over to the negative one.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. We saw in the Elseworlds crossover that Barry has loads of repressed anger he can draw on. But Eobard doesn’t have many positive emotions.
Then again, Barry at 5% and working with the Negative Speed Force was still faster than Eobard this whole episode.
There was so many “it was me Barry” moments this episode
The Flash and Reverse-Flash's confrontation scenes are always on point🔥never disappoint they always deliver👏🏽Tom&Grant
2:29 So cold Snart shivered
I wish he would’ve said “It was me Barry... I started by doing a little housekeeping at star labs. And Then, I took care of the one father you had left”
Also: 2:34 that line is so dark i love it. Imagine young Barry sleeping in his astronaut bed and his fucking fish tank water starts rising, then a man in a yellow suit slaughters him... omg
that would be an awesome scene to show
yeah that would have been awesome, im gonna headcannon him saying it was me
Honestly, this is what Thawne should have done back in season 1. Would have saved so much trouble.
@MostaVerse Creating a new timeline with new events and things in the future. Since this timeline’s Flash created the still force, he was able to go back in time using the negative still force and make those major changes to the timeline to defeat The Flash without making the same mistake he did back in season one- getting stuck in the past.
U forget he wasn't able to travel back in time
DUDE HE RAN FOR LIKE 4 METER N LOSES HIS SPEED N THAT IS WHY HE ON WHEELCHAIRS🤣
This is actually a pretty great recreation of the "It was Me Barry" meme.
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When you realize that this is technically the second Reverse-Flashpoint and we've been living in the first the whole time.
Reverse flash is the heart of this show, all other villains come and go but he's the one you can bet on to be the last man standing
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This is terrifying
Edit: now what exactly was dion's idea here, send Barry to the future without speed and get him killed?
Dion himself didn't even know that it was Reverse Flash because Thawne uses a negative still force and speed force and hides therefore from Dion
Dion sent him to see the temporal disturbance and come back with a plan he never intended flash to face off thawne alone
For a while I almost thought Dion messed with the timeline
Where the fuck even is Dion? Nora not being there kinda makes sense (Although the Speed Force is a multiversal god, she should still know the real timeline, but I suppose this alternate timeline could leave her confused), but Dion is a time god! He should be there to give Barry some backup
I remember in season 5, Thawne told Nora that he wanted to become the flash. Looks like he succeeded.
Same in season 1
@@cyberfox9713 2 actually
@@endamcnabola nope season 1 at the end he told Barry he so obsessed with the flash he wanted to be come him only to find out that he was destined to be coming it's greatest villain
@@cyberfox9713 yesss that’s exactly what I was reminded of watching this scene, him always being jealous and wanting to be the flash as he said
@@sammybutler3027 yeah it turns out it was season 2 opps It was season 2 reverse-flash lives
Hell yeah Thawne your plan was freaking bad ass.
This is the best episodes after so so long
Fr tho, the newer seasons are so boring
Honestly nothing was this good or up to par since flash was infected by bloodwork. At least, as such it's not over yet and I hope there is a season 8 story that full circles to the future with Matt letsch reverse flash.
That's not saying much
The B-plot in this episode absolutely sucked though
2:56 the way thawne turns around and says BECAUSE IN THIS TIMELINEEEE...😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂💀
ok wait hold up so Thawne (Flash) went back to 2013 while Thawne (Wells) struck himself? Wouldnt Wells notice a version of Thawne replacing barry?
He probably killed him self
He used the same face stealing tech he did back in season one, made himself look like barry
Well I think he made Barry reverse flash
That means there’s a whole timeline where Barry, as Reverse Flash, has been messing with team flash! I wanna see that
Exactly why it makes no sense... They should have had Letscher reprise Thawne at least.
This sort of implies that no one loved Barry Allen and instead just loved The Flash. Also, if Barry was killed as a kid in this timeline, how did he become Reverse-Flash?
Yeah, quite odd consider the Armageddon event happened in the Earth Prime timeline and not some alternate Earth
@@marozasulaiman379 as cool as this storyline was, there were too many plot holes
If he killed Barry as a kid then it makes sense that in this timeline reverse-flash would also be a kind of paradox.
@@conorgleeson2453 I forget that Reverse Flash is a living paradox
Barry became a type of paradox. That's why he was still alive
THIS IS AWESOME!!!! Barry is now the Reverse Flash
Tom Cavanaugh is an amazing actor he does an amazing job playing these other versions of Harrison Wells really well but his reverse flash Harrison Wells is just on a whole nother level
2:07 Barry: “Oliver Queen mode activated “ 🥲
Barry; You have failed!
Thawne; You forgot “This City”
Barry; No, you just failed. *Shoot and arrow threw him*
0:54 „I started by doing a little Trolling“
so, does this mean that in this timeline, thawne has the norm speed force while barry has the negative one? wouldn't that make him immune to timeline changes or smth?
Writing is fickle with this show
They're both immune at this point
Possibly but more than likely not like he implied it to Barry who at the time would’ve done anything to save Nora, and Thawne told him the negative speed force would save her possibly just as a paradox kinda like how he survived after Eddie shot himself as a remnant.
But we see the effects in season 1 he gets stuck in the past after loosing the majority of his speed from killing Barry’s mom making him not become the flash until he created the flash earlier this time. Then Eddie died he got erased but a copy that went back and killed Barrys mother was left for the paradox not to occur chicken and egg. As technically he ran back got stuck and Eddie was still alive to be his ancestor up until he shot himself erasing Thawne. Season 3 him not using his speed was helping him not change with the timeline as fast from flashpoint.
But this Barry was killed as a child before he had his speed meaning there’s nothing to protect him as you can’t give speed to a corpse. Creating a flashpoint which are major shifts in the timeline vs smaller inconsequential changes.
@@coals6262 how could he make him reverse flash if he killed him as a child? Shit just doesn't make sense and they clearly started at the end and worked their way back when it came to writing this.
@@bitchface235 probably did so right before killing him. He did the da stove first then probably took over Barry’s life and took the lightning in 2013 at some point he created reverse flash Barry then later on decided to risky to keep him around and went back and killed him as a child
When Barry says "No it does damnit!", he sounds like oliver
His goals really are beyond my understanding.
I dropped off mid season 4, but man when they've got Tom Cavanaugh as RF he really brings this show to another level.
Thawne legit just going and killing child Barry anyway after already messing with Barry's life and also taking over Barry's life is the pettiest thing ever and I love it.
I'm always one step ahead.
This takes “it was me Barry “to it’s peak
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Talk about taking that 'It was me Barry' to a whole new level
I can tell Barry still fears thawne a little bit such a good episode gives so much season 1 vibes
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Did someone notice that it was a subtle nod to what Thawne tried to do in the comics?
He once tried to take Barry's place and being struck by the lightning that gave the Flash his powers.
Problem? He started to be erased from existence because of his status being dependant upon Barry's, so he instead ran from his lab and failed.
In short, Armageddon showed us what if Thawne succeded what he failed to do in the comics.
Holy shrap! I never noticed that! (thenagainineverreadthecomics)
@@sonario6489 Now, you know!
As many times as Thawne has been a villian in the arrowverse I never get tired of it and am somehow surprised each and every time.
Well, THIS IS nuts.
im gonna be honest, Armageddon is better than the Flash has been in years. im really enjoying it.
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its terrible
@@elijah1443 ok
@@elijah1443 ok why dont you write a better writting, go on hater, or why u dont u just stop fucking watch it instead of spreading hate,
@@elijah1443 also the one who is terrible is the one who raised you
He’s a man of focus, commitment and sheer fn will
I'm always one step ahead.
It just got to me, Iris is literally Barry's lightning rod, because just like lightning rod that gave Barry his powers, Iris restored his connection to the speedforce!
Yes.
No the whole "lightning rod" shit is just sappy CW romantic dialogue.
@@Xehanort10 no xD she is literally a lightning rod to him now
Yes an this is sucks
It’s very cool to see how Eobard learned from killing Barry’s mother causing him to get stuck in time so that when he changes the timeline he does it smarter so he can manipulate it like a chess board.
Thawne's plans are always so good, very smart and evil, I like it, I love when he always explains his plan at the end.
It's makes no sense since doing something like this fk him back and old thawne would never do this fearing how time would fk him back
Thawne is the best villain in the Arrowverse. Stay petty my friend.
wouldn't count out Prometheus
Season 8 actually looks promising might start watching it again. Shame we’ll never get to see Eobards real face again anytime soon until probably the final season and when they’re finally able to get Matt back.
So far season 8 has been better than season 4,5,6, and 7 combined
@@xdtony650 I stopped watching at season 6 really bored me tf out, This video recommendation got me thinking, is it worth watching season 7 just to keep up
@@dro634 in my opinion no. It has a few good episodes but overall it’s the worst season. I would just watch the crisis crossover then skip to season 8
@@dro634 pacing was really weird because of Covid. Cast were almost never together and makes you wonder where certain character were when they would be super useful if they were present.
They just don't want to pay for the actor. The actor has publicly stated that he wants to come back to reprise his role. However, he's too expensive for the show's budget so they just re-use Tom Cavanaugh because it's cheaper.
ITS CRAZY TO KNOW HOW 3 MINUTES SOLIDIFIES HOW AMAZING REVERSE FLASH IS AS A VILLAIN. TRUE FLASH FANS KNEW IT WAS THAWNE THIS WHOLE TIME.
1:35 I just wanted a timestamp made because I just love how he said that XD
i feel like it should be called Reversepoint
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@@Royalzzr I just watched it and idk why you replied with that
Man I was like Barry is reverse flash and this guy is flash.
Reverse Flashpoint?))) That's adorable))
"Nuthin' you haven't done before.."
Damn 😅
There are no words to describe somebody who deliberately relived 8 years out of spite
2:32 So I suppose, in this version of the convulsing in pain and screaming in agaony timeline, Thawne went back in time, just after the long gone future flash saved his child self to kill him right there and then guided his "stuck in the past" version to become Flash....
THat or Thawne went extra petty and killed both Barry and his mom while she was giving birth and everyone in the room because I can see Eobard Thawne doing that
You know what's funny when flash made Flashpoint everything went to hell but when Reverse-Flash made his version he was on cloud 9 wow gotta say Reverse Flash has outdone himself.
Tom Cavanagh deserves a Oscar at this point lmfao
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You can really see the hatred in his eyes when he says “WHOS FASTER NOW”
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Barry:"MIDNIGHT!? why is it always midnight?"
So, Thawne took Barry's place... Which has the Wells disguise making even less sense. This *definitely* should have had Thawne in his original form, i.e. Matt Letscher reprising the role.
Tom was supposed to leave the show for good after S6. But I guess they couldn't get Matt back.
Here’s what I don’t understand. Thawne mentioned that he travelled to 2013 and made sure that he was the one struck by lightning instead of Barry. Considering that he said 2013, I’m assuming that this is the same bolt from the particle accelerator that his younger self caused that year. So does this mean that there were two people with Well’s face during that time. Did Thawne fight himself?
Thawne really gone crazy when he become the flash and barry as the reverse flash and the way the Thawne behave crazy, rage and a psychopath in this season.
Now I can see how Childish Thawn actually is. In season 1 barry was like a baby chick in his hand and he could control everything. but now that barry is actually superior than Thawn, he just wants to win and fknd every way to win just to get the laugh on barry’s face.
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2:12 That means Eobard knew that Barry causes it to reverse the reverse flashpoint. Hmmmm...
Flash : what did you do?
Reverse flash : why do u ask Same question every season.
I couldn't help but wonder why Barry never has a recorder on him whenever he confronts Thawne
Yes come on
*gets a wire* shall I put it on for him or no?
I highly doubt his super suit has pockets.
at this point, Thawn is the main character. he’s literally everywhere
Eobard Thawne: the ultimate puppet master of the Arrowverse!
2:34 Wow what great timing universe time sets in at the perfect time for Thawne's speech.
They went from having to run around in circles to throw lightning but now they can throw lightning without having to run around in circles they're really getting more powerful
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Wait so that means, when Barry “restored” the timeline, wouldn’t he have side effects from it, since it was changed from a reverse flashpoint? Just like he had side effects and losing memories when he created the first flashpoint in Season 3.
Probably gotta wait till next episode
Side effect savitar 2
don't think so much lol. the writers definitely didn't.
@@SoulKing2006 I think it would want to kill Thawne as Barry never created the reverse flashpoint and the former did
“By the stroke of midnight” ?
What is this?! Cinderella?!
I know right.
when u realize the whole flash show is thawnes timeline, unless u dont count the timeline changes
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Plastic Time: History can be changed, but there can be consequences from doing so. For example, in Superman #146, Superman travels back in time and accidentally prevents the destruction of Krypton, creating a new timeline where he never becomes Superman 1.Parallel Universes: Time travel to your own actual past or future is impossible, and all time travel does is either shift you into a parallel universe, or into an alternate timeline. For example, in Action Comics #399, Superman travels to the future and finds himself on a parallel Earth where he is married to Lois Lane and has a son named Clark Jr1.
Thawne is the definition of the saying “You’re biggest hater is your biggest fan”