@@Just-a-human-being-d2tof course, it's all a question of your performance needs and whether you'd rather experiment with ARM. I'm fact I'd recommend x64 machines like Intel or AMD unless you REALLY want to tinker with Windows in ARM explicitly or have very light computing needs (like mostly just using web browsers for example).
I think some of macbook advantages are from integrated design, which Microsoft and especially its partners have trouble replicating. For example, I bet that even the displays on macbooks have higher-than-average-efficiency LEDs. You can do that when your product line is limited so you have very high LCD volumes. The MacBooks skimp on memory and that saves A LOT of power. But as a result, they go to extreme lengths to un-do the RAM shortages and provide enough memory (like virtual memory and in-memory compressed virtual memory) to try to un-do the losses from skimping on RAM. Most importantly, Macs just don't have power profiles. They are efficient ALL the time, not when you shift gears into low-power mode, and that REALLY MATTERS A LOT. Overall, it seems the ex-server chips from Nuvia that Qualcomm is using for its snapdragon products are not nearly as power-efficient as Mac in-house-designed M1-M4 chips, probably 10-15% less efficient. So the snapdragons are 10-15% more efficient than x86, but 10-15% less efficient than ARM. And the snapdragons have EXCELLENT low-power video decoding so video playback is almost 3x longer than x86 machines.
@@systemBuilder Skimping on memory definitely does NOT save power as it has to compensate by constantly compressing data and swapping to and from SSD. All of that obviously consumes more so it wastes power if anything.
@@yurymleh you really don't have a clue do you? They run virtual memory and it only gets used when you switch between applications, or if both applications happen to be writing to the screen at the same time, which is rare. This is power draw only once every several minutes. The overhead of compression or flash-based paging systems pales in comparison to the constant power draw and DRAM refresh current needed for a second bank of RAM!
@@systemBuilder If that were true MBA with 16 and 24GB would have worse battery life times than MBA with 8GB which they don't. So who is clueless again?
I'm an ex-Microsoft employee (retired) and I've not enjoyed the (other) apple-using tech journalist take on Snapdragon laptops. HOWEVER, in the case of Josh, in this video, I have to give him a big THUMBS UP! I own the Surface Laptop 7, and for my needs (casual + light software dev) it is lifechanging, but it might not work for others, depending on what their use cases are. Josh did a great job on this review! I hope that things improve over time, as they did with Apple Silicon (M1), but as of right now, Josh's take is spot on. Great job, Josh and team!
@@MichaelGGarry Uh, yeah! That's what I was pointing out at the beginning. I worked for Microsoft and still thought that his review was fair and balanced. I thought that was clear by admitting my bias and still applauding his review. I wish that he was wrong, and that the devices were perfect, but as of this date, they are not. Just as he pointed out.
This is the most in depth overview of the Snapdragon laptops I've seen since launch. Thank you for this! As an architect, I am a little more confident with these devices but usability would be better if these mature more next year.
I would guess this is mostly about adapting software for this processor type. Overall, I do think snapdragon laptops are probably best for most people. After all, it gives lower temps and longer battery life. Most people just need their laptop for editing documents, or using some web app or relatively lightweight business related app. I do hope they actually bring out low cost pc's exactly for this case. It would transform laptops businesses could use and you can recommend to relatives and friends that just need basic laptop. Pretty sure these are going to become mainstream laptop processors, and we are just waiting for software to catch up.
I too find the Surface Laptop to be the most compelling of the new Snapdragon lineup, and for the casual user it most likely boil down to which OS is preferred.
Thanks for the review. Much more nuance video with the target user group and respective user experience for different user cases. Did see a whole bunch x elite laptop reviews from multiple channels already. This one is not among the first wave of reviews, but is the best and most informative review so far.
It's much appreciated to see an honest evaluation of the laptops, well done! I had to laugh about the female Netflix/office and two male power users though...
It's even more funnier because I'm eyeing to purchase a snapdragon laptop for my wife for her simple browsing use-case. Whereas I am a software developer who uses docker and other development tools mentioned, so I will stick to AMD/Intel laptops for now. 😂
I am using Surface Laptop 7 with X Elite 80-100, man I have to say its very great, I get more battery life than my Macbook Pro M1 und extremely great performance.
It looks like Jim Keller really knows how to save power. 6:01 - this scatter plot shows 4 types of processors. The yellow and blue ones did NOT have Jim Keller leading the design teams. The red and black ones DID have Jim Keller working to lead some iterations of the design teams! See the difference! I thought you would !!!!
Josh has been testing these laptops for 10 days. I knew that the next video would give a total review about the laptops. Turned out it isn't as great as it seemed. I'll be waiting for the Intel Lunar Lake chips. Thanks Josh, you are my fav laptop and now also business channel. I only trust your advise.
Hi. Can you tell why is so many people waiting for Lunar lake? Are they gonna make some very significant jump? I am gonna purchase a meteor lake laptop soon (confused between Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i or Ideapad pro 5), but people waiting for Lunar lake are making me nervous.
@@narutokunn uses a more advanced node from TSMC, on-package memory, low power design, next gen integrated graphics (around rtx 3050 in benchmarks). Multi threaded performance won't be anything special tho.
Review is spot on. I bought a surface laptop 7 after returning a MacBook Air. I use it for media consumption, misc business tasks, file management on local server shares and a lot of remote connections to other computers. I love it so far. I realized that most of the things I do are cloud based or on other servers. I don’t need a laptop that does heavy lifting. And battery life has been night and day vs other windows laptops. But it’s not a gaming pc and there’s definitely growing pains with software compatibility. I appreciate a review that can convey that without trashing what the devices are.
@@cosmicreaverkassadin1143 I still find it hilarious that people pay anything at all for a laptop to play games on them. Sure, maybe if you're on travel and it's all you got...
Developers are not in a rush because Microsoft did not commit to ARM. It’s just a side project and everyone is just waiting to see how it goes, including consumers and developers. Sheer poison for sales.
Agreed. Windows won’t allow developers to code binary directly to ARM CPU. MSFT wants TurboTax, Citrix, AutoCad, & so on to go through the Windows store. Garbage move!!!
What, I think they are basically all in on arm. They haven't released a consumer intel product this year! Surface pro 10 was a business limited production with no marketing.
It’s so nice to see reviews that don’t just go into what a content creator uses. I’d imagine far more workers are using virtual desktop interfaces to access applications than use video editing software
@@64bitmodels66 There are many major companies running most of their applications on some sort of a VDI, especially in heavily regulated industries. In my previous company alone there are more people using a VDI than professional video editors in the USA according to the BLS. Not having something like Citrix running smoothly can be a massive deal breaker when purchasing a laptop.
You can get a Asus Zenbook 14 with Core ultra 9 32gb 1tb for 900 usd nowadays, and the battery life is not much shorter than snapdragon ones, almost half the price.
I appreciate your honesty Josh I just recently found your channel and you showed me that it's not worth buying these laptops now so I'll wait until the end of the year to see if the situation gets better.
These are big fat expensive chromebooks rushed to market. They don't edit video or play games very well, but they do browse the web and play videos and have good displays & sound.
Office work tasks are "professional" tasks. Perhaps what you were looking for was media creation tasks, which are important and professional, but not inherently more so than somebody who lives in desktop publishing suites or project management software.
You're correct. I didn't even realized that. I think he wanted/meant that office work tasks are low to medium in "heavyness" or "demandingness". As in, as a benchmark, they're not overly useful for determining how powerful a CPU is. Hence the need to put them in a separate category.
There are so many professions and "professional" tasks - given what you know now, how do you differentiate the varieties? Josh's approach is valid to me and not quite misleading as he explains the typical office work apps.
This is really the only excellent laptop review channel I know on YT. Funny how I found your channel when you were still so small. Wish all reviews were like this: consise, critical, and pragmatic.
I just bought one and am using it for full stack development and its great. Excited about the ARM architecture and NPU. Looking forward to doing AI development on the platform.
That's an amazing video, you're clearly the best content creator in the laptop space. It's really useful to know which softwares work and don't work, however it would have been nice if you would have specified if they work natively or through emulation.
Great review as always, though the title and thumbnail are very misleading... for example, something like the Humane AI pin is useless now, whatever updates they give, it will still not match a smartphone with ChatGPT 4o or Gemini or the latest Siri. But most of the issues in SDX devices can and will be fixed in a few months. And the video could have mentioned that, i guess it was not in Josh's intention to support Windows on ARM. so I feel the title and thumbnail are misleading.
Josh thank you so much for testing the audio stuff! Sad to hear, but good to know its not working right now. The only thing I've seen from an audio perspective is the stock install of FL Studio. I'll definitely be holding off---sounds like for a few years since some of these companies are saying they have no plans to migrate any time soon.
Thank heavens for this video, just recently watched Max Tech and the clear apple bias was so bad it pisses me off, so great job on making an actually objective review
@Riyoe *"clear apple bias"* LOL clear Apple bias from Max Tech? He's generally the Apple trasher of all reviewers. If he has any praise for Apple's products he's being honest because he can't find a reason to lie. Apparently you want to hear nothing but Apple trashing to make you happy, so be honest you're simply an Apple hater because Apple silicon Macs are the best computers all around, and if it hurts you to admit that then....SMH
Your candor and honest reviews are much appreciated. I own an older Surface on ARM and it works just fine for the basics and I really never try to push it too hard. These newest ones are two big steps forward, but still takes a step back when it comes to compatibility.
Hey Josh, first time viewer here, just want to say the way you structured this video was excellent. Many people generalize quite heavily when reviewing electronics, but your way of explaining different types of users is the absolute best way to review or put things into perspective for viewers. Thank you!!
You are the only one that gives good information about software compatibly and different use cases. These are fundamental information that people who really use their pcs for work nedeed (other than the ubiquitous video editing, absurdly over estimated on TH-cam reviews). Thanks, keep it up!
I'd better buy cheaper prev gen x86 laptop if it just for casual use, heck even maybe used ones. Some can last 10+ hr on battery at just half the price.
buying new computers is dumb anyway. desktops offer far more performance for the same price, and if you need a laptop, buying a used apple silicon macbook would be almost as powerful as the newest laptops, but would barely cost you money as its resell value barely drops at that point, making its usage actually much, much cheaper than any other high performance laptop. for casual use anything thats 2020 or newer will do, you could either buy a used thinkpad for 300 bucks, or a used macbook air. nobody needs to buy the newest models, its just a gigantic waste of money and the people buying those only do so because they want the feeling of getting something new, cause it makes no sense at all
Tbh, with mobile phones this good I don't need the laptop for casual stuff at all. I even bought my home with it. For those that are not professional or don't high end excel work, do you really need one? If you feel you do for the sake of it or for the option just get a decent one for £700 as that will be medium future proof as well.
if you get a used macbook air, it might be over a thousand, but its resell demand is so high that is barely looses value by using it and it also has the highest efficiency, so this would actually be the cheapest option, cheaper and better and nicer than laptops with a lower cost of purchase. getting new tech is dumb anyway no matter what
Yeah, it's good for casual user But like, there is no clear slice of cake for it If I am casual user, Says, I don't have any specific software, I want battery life, and I want to use ARM. I can always use Apple Macbook. Sure, it's not Windows, but software support is much better at this point. If I play games or have any specific software, x86 is always the choice. Windows on Arm is the 3rd branch after x86 and Apple, any software support or official release will be behind. It really is overhyped, there is no real reason to use it now or soon. Unless things changed in next 10 years, but Intel/AMD is not gonna watch and do nothing.
I was waiting for this video. The only honest and practical reviewer on TH-cam that you can always rely on. You don't have to worry about him getting paid to give a positive review of the product even if it is just marketing crap. This channel is highly underrated. He is wayyyy better than the other tech "reviewer" biggies. Gotta respect the fact that despite having a smaller userbase and thus lower revenue he doesn't give in the paid promotion requests from tech companies like they do.
Seems little biased and hateful on snapdragon chips. When the M1 was introduced everybody on that bandwagon that calling the ARM was the future, even though there were a lot of compatibility issues with many applications. But most of these reviewers were appreciating (praising) battery life & benchmark results. Nobody cared about app compatibility, (8 GB so-called unified RAM) and now some company has come up with a solution for Windows so many Apple Sleeper cells were just woke up and bashing the Snapdragon X series. Yes, if you can wait for the apple solution, so wait a little for the Windows (Qualcomm's) updates. It will be improved and outperform Apple's useless (8 GB/256 GB) hardware in the price-to-performance ratio.
Its interesting. Windows users normally makes fun of gaming on apple computers. Any 4 years old M1 apple computer CRUSHES these new arm pcs in gaming in every possible way (what games can run and how they run)
People miss the point of these laptops, the majority of buyers are looking for an office suite, basics machine, that is fast, reliable and has great battery life. Your typical mom and pop or corporate giving a powerpoint presentation to off-site clients isn't going to be using Matlab. They wan't a Windows platform machine with tablet-like battery and portability in a traditional form factor. For that, the Snapdragon machines seem like a fantastic option if you have to buy now.
We can all deduce that the problem lies in Bloatware called Windows OS. Similar work if went on optimizing Linux for Arm, I am sure that would be as performant/efficient as Macbook.
you know if and when linux works for arm, it might have better support for it compared to something like windows since there have been arm versions of the repos on linux for several years at this point
@@David-Zita nah, windows is successful because it comes from microsoft and microsoft is a huge company with lots of resources,and it came first, so most people used it, so most companies developed their apps for it because of that, and so on. apple is not a competitor cause it has a different user base, and linux is open source, so it has no resources to compete, and because it became viable much later, most professional apps are already developed for windows. most people also do not want to learn a new OS, they want to stick with what they are used to. windows is crap, it just has no real competitor given the circumstances.
@@maurizio835 Intel always has laptops ready on launch, unlike AMD. While youre right we wont see every laptop design ready, there will DEFINITELY be more designs in the first few weeks than Snapdragon will have all year, so people wont really have to wait.
@@BurnsRubberMajor tech companies are going to release support for Qualcomm laptops for their applications, so going forward ARM is the future of mobile computing or will compete alongside Intel, AMD, and Mac.
@@LetsGoBowlingNiko We’ll see. This transition won’t be simple or easy. Corporate IT departments would need to buy in along with all x86 software companies. The launch of these Qualcom (Nuvia) SoCs has been a disaster. They offer similar performance to current Gen Intel/AMD with substantial bugs, compatibility and performance limitations at similar prices. They might have a role for limited functionality low end laptop but won’t compete in the longterm with Intel and AMD. Competition between Intel and AMD is fierce right now.
It's not sure, it's far away in efficiency (if you compare with the oher ARM chip), so if the AMD and Intel answer will have better efficiency, why would you do all the reworks if the result even inferior like you don't do anything just stick to the newer x86 model?
Best professional review hands down. I guess these are over-hyped and half-booked as usual from Microsoft. Intel will probably offer similar efficiency & superior compatibility with Lunar Lake in September.
These are a solid 1st gen. Also, why are we blaming Microsoft for third party software incompatibilities. M1 had a ton of software issues as well. In exactly the same way it had to happen with Apple, the dev community needs time to catch up and create native arm applications.
@@Kyt2024 It is because this is not the first gen by Microsoft & Qualcomm. They have been releasing ARM products for years now and this generation was supposed to be similar to the M1 moment Appl had but it clearly is not.
@@A15689 it’s very similar to M1 actually. And yes Microsoft and Qualcomm have done some other work on arm over the years but the x elite is a completely new initiative. It IS first gen. Like M1 this is the first moment now today where arm builds are worthwhile to make for windows. Things will improve significantly from here to their “M2” like they did with Apple. The only major difference tbh is Qualcomm did not focus on their GPUs enough for this first gen X elite, that’s going to be moved forward in the 2nd gen according to Qualcomm.
I've watched dozens of these X Elite device review/discussion videos, and this is the best so far. I've been recommending this video in the comments section of other videos that I feel somewhat misrepresent the drawbacks of this chip and only focus on the positives. There are positives for sure, don't get me wrong. If I was buying a Windows device and I mostly used web and mainstream office apps, I would be all over one of these. The battery life and snappy performance in native applications, especially and unsurprisingly in browsing the internet or using web-based programs, seems to be so good, particularly for the price. These chips are not overpriced. Personally, I can't use one of these yet because I need other programs, and I'm going to wait to see what Intel and AMD offers in its new chips in the coming months. Anyway, the point of this long comment is that I appreciate you, Josh, (and your team) putting out quality information, with the only agenda being to help the audience make the best choice for them.
People were unhappy when I said these Snapdragon X Elite are primary premium-priced Chromebooks, and at least it would be sensible to look at them that way in this first generation. With features like OLED, 120Hz, 16GB+ RAM, etc, they offer something extra over the budget Chromebook market. But it diminishes returns in performance, efficiency, and compatibility as your work becomes more intensive or specialist. Add in a bootlocked system and no apparent eGPU support; USB4 does not appear to support that feature, and you have something less than the sum of its parts for users outside casual use. Incredibly, as some of these are priced in the Apple segment, they are far from comparable.
Yep! I am highly disappointed in the iGPU and missing drivers for Snapdragon X Elite laptops. They had such a long time to get the drivers ready and failed. Fortunately, the driver issues can be fixed with 3 months at best. The iGPU will have to take a whole new iteration.
@@akin242002When will MSFT allow developers to code binary directly to ARM CPU? BC TurboTax, Citrix, AutoCad, & so on will never use the WIndows store!
Josh you magnificent angel. No one deep dives enough just like you and I think other reviews. Also you are the only one trying linux on reviews and I really appriciate a lot
@@EibrahamCx It really has nothing to do with 4 years of optimization. The experience was already extremely polished when the first M1 laptops hit the market. For instance, all the applications Josh identified as incompatible with Snapdragon, like the audio software, worked perfectly on M1, even though many of them did not have native ARM versions at the time.
@@boshi9 exactly; Apple was way more hush-hush about the M series prior to them hitting shelves, and yet everything was so much more polished on release Most of the issues listed in this video are only from the maker's preliminary testing. That's disturbing. There must be many more teething issues he hasn't even come across yet on those machines The release feels under-baked and rushed to get to market before Apple's M4 and AMD Strix Point release
@JustJoshTech I came from the comment you made on Linus Tech Tips video. Your video about these new laptops is much better as it seems you are actually applying real world use cases and with more comparisons.
Excellent. Besides, Snapdragon chipsets do not run Windows Pro to the best of my knowledge. Surface Laptops with Snapdragon Elite is available only with Windows Home Edition which is a stripped down OS with no security feature and very limited networking feature.
I guess we can wait for like a year at most until all these issues are ironed out. It was the case with the first Apple Silicon laptops as well. What Microsoft and Qualcomm have achieved is truly a marvellous step forward in Windows computers and it is certain that they will very soon fully replace x86 CPUs
@@Rascate81 New windows in those laptop eat upto 8 GB of ram and when MS will add more AI features it will eat more so 16 in windows full of bloatware is not enough
@wandering-jew go watch a video about arm gpus. These people can explain it better than me, but basically, the circuits around the CPU are very smushed together in a complex way for better performance.
@@luigidabro thats bs. arm is just a cpu architecture, it has nothing to do with where the graphics card is located or how it is connected. putting an integrated graphics cards into them is a choice independent of them being arm cpus.
It also seems like they're dipping their toes in ARM bit don't want to take a foot out of x86. They're gonna walk down the middle of the road until they are squished like a grape and forced to make a choice and lean hard into it.
@@obsidian_blue the first generation ARC in the Intel 155H beats the 780M in the 7900HS CPUs. I have pretty good confidence in saying Intel's Battlemage will beat strixpoint if not halo point.
@@einstien2409 You're still comparing AMD's last gen against Intel's current gen. AMD current iGPU is 880M. Strix Point has 33% more compute cores than 880M and runs at a faster clock rate too. Strix will also have more compute grunt than lunar lake too
Will the ARM handle Java (IntelliJ), C++ (Visual Studio 2022) development, lots of compilation and will it run VMWare Workstation ? How better / worse would these workload run compared to Intel i5 (1235U)?
@@Just_a_random_birb Both will. But the second X Elite series is something I am looking forward to as well, as this series was delayed and not supposed to launch this late lol
oh gosh after many hours searching for pros and cons in depth, finally you mentioned everything including what us, graphic artists want to know ! Thank you !
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Can i buy Ultra 9 185H processor laptop instead of Snapdragon X?
I'd love to help you make a comparison of more of these awesome Snapdragon PCs.
@@Just-a-human-being-d2tof course, it's all a question of your performance needs and whether you'd rather experiment with ARM.
I'm fact I'd recommend x64 machines like Intel or AMD unless you REALLY want to tinker with Windows in ARM explicitly or have very light computing needs (like mostly just using web browsers for example).
Surface Laptop 7 is so good
X86 is better
Amazing to finally have a reviewer with consistent focus on software development workloads across multiple devices.
Also Alex Ziskind
I think some of macbook advantages are from integrated design, which Microsoft and especially its partners have trouble replicating. For example, I bet that even the displays on macbooks have higher-than-average-efficiency LEDs. You can do that when your product line is limited so you have very high LCD volumes. The MacBooks skimp on memory and that saves A LOT of power. But as a result, they go to extreme lengths to un-do the RAM shortages and provide enough memory (like virtual memory and in-memory compressed virtual memory) to try to un-do the losses from skimping on RAM. Most importantly, Macs just don't have power profiles. They are efficient ALL the time, not when you shift gears into low-power mode, and that REALLY MATTERS A LOT. Overall, it seems the ex-server chips from Nuvia that Qualcomm is using for its snapdragon products are not nearly as power-efficient as Mac in-house-designed M1-M4 chips, probably 10-15% less efficient. So the snapdragons are 10-15% more efficient than x86, but 10-15% less efficient than ARM. And the snapdragons have EXCELLENT low-power video decoding so video playback is almost 3x longer than x86 machines.
@@systemBuilder Skimping on memory definitely does NOT save power as it has to compensate by constantly compressing data and swapping to and from SSD. All of that obviously consumes more so it wastes power if anything.
@@yurymleh you really don't have a clue do you? They run virtual memory and it only gets used when you switch between applications, or if both applications happen to be writing to the screen at the same time, which is rare. This is power draw only once every several minutes. The overhead of compression or flash-based paging systems pales in comparison to the constant power draw and DRAM refresh current needed for a second bank of RAM!
@@systemBuilder If that were true MBA with 16 and 24GB would have worse battery life times than MBA with 8GB which they don't. So who is clueless again?
i could never buy a laptop without seeing joshes opinion it
I'm paying the price. I bought this over an iPad thinking that this would have more compatibility with audio applications. 😂
@@sasmitha8446There’s probably a lot of USB devices without the right drivers :/ Not sure how long it would take.
Could you buy a desktop?
@@sasmitha8446 you're still in the return period
@@mechanicalmonk2020 i mean i already have the knowledge required to get the parts
I'm an ex-Microsoft employee (retired) and I've not enjoyed the (other) apple-using tech journalist take on Snapdragon laptops. HOWEVER, in the case of Josh, in this video, I have to give him a big THUMBS UP! I own the Surface Laptop 7, and for my needs (casual + light software dev) it is lifechanging, but it might not work for others, depending on what their use cases are. Josh did a great job on this review! I hope that things improve over time, as they did with Apple Silicon (M1), but as of right now, Josh's take is spot on. Great job, Josh and team!
Because you are biased?
@@MichaelGGarry The poster was at least polite enough to list their bias. What's your excuse?
What does being an ex-Microsoft employee have anything to do with your experience?
@@MichaelGGarry Uh, yeah! That's what I was pointing out at the beginning. I worked for Microsoft and still thought that his review was fair and balanced. I thought that was clear by admitting my bias and still applauding his review. I wish that he was wrong, and that the devices were perfect, but as of this date, they are not. Just as he pointed out.
@@maxweinbach3996 Acknowledging my implicit bias (because I am), but still appreciated his fair & accurate review.
This is the most in depth overview of the Snapdragon laptops I've seen since launch. Thank you for this! As an architect, I am a little more confident with these devices but usability would be better if these mature more next year.
Always buy 2nd generation of anything. I've decided to wait for Surface Pro 12 with X Elite 2.
If lunar lake delivers I think you should stay on x86 why put on Jeopardy your work?
@@jorge86rodriguez I already have my PC for that, I just need a laptop that has good battery life haha
100 years later lol
I would guess this is mostly about adapting software for this processor type. Overall, I do think snapdragon laptops are probably best for most people. After all, it gives lower temps and longer battery life. Most people just need their laptop for editing documents, or using some web app or relatively lightweight business related app. I do hope they actually bring out low cost pc's exactly for this case. It would transform laptops businesses could use and you can recommend to relatives and friends that just need basic laptop.
Pretty sure these are going to become mainstream laptop processors, and we are just waiting for software to catch up.
I too find the Surface Laptop to be the most compelling of the new Snapdragon lineup, and for the casual user it most likely boil down to which OS is preferred.
no its not
The Lenovo is better
I like the Samsung for its great integration with my other Samsung devices. But I realize not everyone is in that boat.
Another great option is the Book4 Edge, since is the only one that supports the top SKU of the X Elite
You need a $1,000 machine for casual things? My Chromebook does just fine in Casual Video Playing.
Thanks for the review. Much more nuance video with the target user group and respective user experience for different user cases. Did see a whole bunch x elite laptop reviews from multiple channels already. This one is not among the first wave of reviews, but is the best and most informative review so far.
It's much appreciated to see an honest evaluation of the laptops, well done! I had to laugh about the female Netflix/office and two male power users though...
It's even more funnier because I'm eyeing to purchase a snapdragon laptop for my wife for her simple browsing use-case. Whereas I am a software developer who uses docker and other development tools mentioned, so I will stick to AMD/Intel laptops for now. 😂
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This guy is amazing he bought these laptops with his own money 😳 and did a fair review highlighting the positives and negatives too!
He's a legend
@@IvoPavlikhe’ll be returning them right after the video lol
@@sirrabhsurya5087 I don't think he will... because of he might want to test new features as they get updated.
@@sirrabhsurya5087maybe not return, but he'll definitely write them off as a business expense
Clicked as soon as the video appeared on my feed.. You guys are the best
Thank you Josh and team! Your honesty and straight forwardness is highly appreciated
Genuinely, thank you, I know we are asking a lot but next time trying to cover C/C++ compiling, and huge huge thank you for covering Linux support
so damn glad someone is giving software dev specific info about these, thanks for the video josh
I am using Surface Laptop 7 with X Elite 80-100, man I have to say its very great, I get more battery life than my Macbook Pro M1 und extremely great performance.
The most honest review I've watched so far! Thank you for being the honest voice of reason for consumers
You got it
@@JustJoshTechthank you for your work it really helps
@drinkwater9891 the same linus that made this paid marketing video? th-cam.com/video/C0bEew9dqNs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yPqNPfkqbx5f8-z1
The only channel that covered linux support! 🎉🎉 Thanks.
The scatter-plot at 6:02 is epic. A real eye-opener!
It looks like Jim Keller really knows how to save power. 6:01 - this scatter plot shows 4 types of processors. The yellow and blue ones did NOT have Jim Keller leading the design teams. The red and black ones DID have Jim Keller working to lead some iterations of the design teams! See the difference! I thought you would !!!!
Josh has been testing these laptops for 10 days. I knew that the next video would give a total review about the laptops. Turned out it isn't as great as it seemed. I'll be waiting for the Intel Lunar Lake chips.
Thanks Josh, you are my fav laptop and now also business channel. I only trust your advise.
yup, Lunar Lake it will be for me as well :).
Hi. Can you tell why is so many people waiting for Lunar lake? Are they gonna make some very significant jump? I am gonna purchase a meteor lake laptop soon (confused between Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i or Ideapad pro 5), but people waiting for Lunar lake are making me nervous.
Idk about the performance uplifts but wait for a while if u can@@narutokunn
@@narutokunn I would wait for Lunar Lake. I believe it's faster, and most important more energy efficient
@@narutokunn uses a more advanced node from TSMC, on-package memory, low power design, next gen integrated graphics (around rtx 3050 in benchmarks). Multi threaded performance won't be anything special tho.
Review is spot on. I bought a surface laptop 7 after returning a MacBook Air. I use it for media consumption, misc business tasks, file management on local server shares and a lot of remote connections to other computers. I love it so far. I realized that most of the things I do are cloud based or on other servers. I don’t need a laptop that does heavy lifting. And battery life has been night and day vs other windows laptops.
But it’s not a gaming pc and there’s definitely growing pains with software compatibility. I appreciate a review that can convey that without trashing what the devices are.
Cudos to the graphics in this video, the visuals are very nice and streamlined :)
Snapdragon X Elite delivers exceptional performance, but improvements are needed for the engineering software and GPU.
yup, people laugh at arc igpu (me as well), but it turns out it's even better than this :/.
no one's gonna buy a 1000 dollar laptop that can only play games at 36 fps 😢
because of the x86 translation, those programs need to get ported to work on ARM and they will work much better, I think.
@@efeloteishe4675 Which isn't going to happen...
@@cosmicreaverkassadin1143 I still find it hilarious that people pay anything at all for a laptop to play games on them. Sure, maybe if you're on travel and it's all you got...
I cannot praise you enough for the quality and comprehensiveness of your reviews such as this. It’s second to none! Thank you.
Developers are not in a rush because Microsoft did not commit to ARM. It’s just a side project and everyone is just waiting to see how it goes, including consumers and developers. Sheer poison for sales.
Agreed. Windows won’t allow developers to code binary directly to ARM CPU. MSFT wants TurboTax, Citrix, AutoCad, & so on to go through the Windows store. Garbage move!!!
What, I think they are basically all in on arm. They haven't released a consumer intel product this year! Surface pro 10 was a business limited production with no marketing.
bullshit. Microsoft is all in on ARM so much so that Intel looks like a Motorola right now.
@@tringuyen7519 Either they'll back track on this move or just fail with arm, again.
source?
there haven't been so many apps ported to arm in a long time
Finally a proper indepth review. Most reviewers would just show some synthetic benchmarks and some Photoshop and figma benchmarks and call it a day.
It’s so nice to see reviews that don’t just go into what a content creator uses. I’d imagine far more workers are using virtual desktop interfaces to access applications than use video editing software
@@whenhen Right? I use android studio, pytorch, and mathlab. All that on a linux distro (Arch). 99% of all reviews never cover these.
@@whenhen also Im learning ethical hacking using kali linux. Would have been a total waste when it comes to this laptop.
@@whenhentf is that last sentence? Video editing software is widely used
@@64bitmodels66 There are many major companies running most of their applications on some sort of a VDI, especially in heavily regulated industries. In my previous company alone there are more people using a VDI than professional video editors in the USA according to the BLS. Not having something like Citrix running smoothly can be a massive deal breaker when purchasing a laptop.
Was waiting for the video eagerly and... i guess I'll wait for the upgrade :(
Was very curious about VMware and VirtualBox and you're the only reviewer to touch this topic, thanks Josh.
Excellent review. This channel always puts tremendous effort and care into their work
This is exactly what I was looking for - no hype, just details. Thank you!
You can get a Asus Zenbook 14 with Core ultra 9 32gb 1tb for 900 usd nowadays, and the battery life is not much shorter than snapdragon ones, almost half the price.
I appreciate your honesty Josh I just recently found your channel and you showed me that it's not worth buying these laptops now so I'll wait until the end of the year to see if the situation gets better.
These are big fat expensive chromebooks rushed to market. They don't edit video or play games very well, but they do browse the web and play videos and have good displays & sound.
Best video on the internet
Covered use cases well
Pratical tests
I would have loved benchmarks of emulation layers but awesome effort
Office work tasks are "professional" tasks. Perhaps what you were looking for was media creation tasks, which are important and professional, but not inherently more so than somebody who lives in desktop publishing suites or project management software.
Exactly what I thought!
I agree 100 per percent and is a serious blind spot in many reviews
You're correct. I didn't even realized that. I think he wanted/meant that office work tasks are low to medium in "heavyness" or "demandingness". As in, as a benchmark, they're not overly useful for determining how powerful a CPU is. Hence the need to put them in a separate category.
There are so many professions and "professional" tasks - given what you know now, how do you differentiate the varieties? Josh's approach is valid to me and not quite misleading as he explains the typical office work apps.
@@xiangli2452 I can guarantee that every company uses Office, and just a very small % of professionals are making videos.
This is really the only excellent laptop review channel I know on YT. Funny how I found your channel when you were still so small. Wish all reviews were like this: consise, critical, and pragmatic.
I just bought one and am using it for full stack development and its great. Excited about the ARM architecture and NPU. Looking forward to doing AI development on the platform.
Almost like you didn’t watch the video, if you want to do AI dev, even the lowest line nvidia card blows these out of the water in terms of TOPs.
That's an amazing video, you're clearly the best content creator in the laptop space. It's really useful to know which softwares work and don't work, however it would have been nice if you would have specified if they work natively or through emulation.
Great review as always, though the title and thumbnail are very misleading...
for example, something like the Humane AI pin is useless now, whatever updates they give, it will still not match a smartphone with ChatGPT 4o or Gemini or the latest Siri.
But most of the issues in SDX devices can and will be fixed in a few months. And the video could have mentioned that, i guess it was not in Josh's intention to support Windows on ARM. so I feel the title and thumbnail are misleading.
Josh thank you so much for testing the audio stuff! Sad to hear, but good to know its not working right now. The only thing I've seen from an audio perspective is the stock install of FL Studio. I'll definitely be holding off---sounds like for a few years since some of these companies are saying they have no plans to migrate any time soon.
Thank heavens for this video, just recently watched Max Tech and the clear apple bias was so bad it pisses me off, so great job on making an actually objective review
MAXTECH is a clown. Why people trust what he says if he doesnt have a tech degree?
@@sergioyichiong7269 you don't need a tech degree you just need to be objective and well he honestly isn't
@Riyoe *"clear apple bias"*
LOL clear Apple bias from Max Tech? He's generally the Apple trasher of all reviewers. If he has any praise for Apple's products he's being honest because he can't find a reason to lie. Apparently you want to hear nothing but Apple trashing to make you happy, so be honest you're simply an Apple hater because Apple silicon Macs are the best computers all around, and if it hurts you to admit that then....SMH
@@BlendingWithHenry nice rage bait, literally everything max tech says is meatriding apple lmao bro has not watched any of his videos
@@Riyoe You're full of crap. Typical PC fanboy.
Fantastic review. I wish everyone else on YT did work like this.
Wow, what a freaking video. Subscribed
Your candor and honest reviews are much appreciated. I own an older Surface on ARM and it works just fine for the basics and I really never try to push it too hard. These newest ones are two big steps forward, but still takes a step back when it comes to compatibility.
Thank you!
Wow, thanks for the indepth testing and infromative video! Loved the live stream as well.
Hey Josh, first time viewer here, just want to say the way you structured this video was excellent. Many people generalize quite heavily when reviewing electronics, but your way of explaining different types of users is the absolute best way to review or put things into perspective for viewers. Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it, and we appreciate that you noticed the structure! Welcome
Hopefully these arm chips age like fine wine from compatibility aspect because , competition always good thing for consumer
Can always depend on you mate, this is exactly the video I was looking for.
Detailed, concise and exactly the information I want.
Please create a video showing the performance of Autocad. This will help a lot of architects in the world. Thank you!
It's a great idea and I'd love to do a video on it. Hopefully next month
@@JustJoshTech thank you so much!
You are the only one that gives good information about software compatibly and different use cases. These are fundamental information that people who really use their pcs for work nedeed (other than the ubiquitous video editing, absurdly over estimated on TH-cam reviews). Thanks, keep it up!
Awesome video! I just have a question: is there going to be a separate review for each of those laptops?
This is really outstanding. Really appreciate the effort on Linux too!
I'd better buy cheaper prev gen x86 laptop if it just for casual use, heck even maybe used ones. Some can last 10+ hr on battery at just half the price.
buying new computers is dumb anyway. desktops offer far more performance for the same price, and if you need a laptop, buying a used apple silicon macbook would be almost as powerful as the newest laptops, but would barely cost you money as its resell value barely drops at that point, making its usage actually much, much cheaper than any other high performance laptop.
for casual use anything thats 2020 or newer will do, you could either buy a used thinkpad for 300 bucks, or a used macbook air. nobody needs to buy the newest models, its just a gigantic waste of money and the people buying those only do so because they want the feeling of getting something new, cause it makes no sense at all
Wow! The video I didn't know I needed. Thanks Josh and the entire team, for this in-depth, unbiased review 🎉
Tbh, with mobile phones this good I don't need the laptop for casual stuff at all. I even bought my home with it. For those that are not professional or don't high end excel work, do you really need one? If you feel you do for the sake of it or for the option just get a decent one for £700 as that will be medium future proof as well.
if you get a used macbook air, it might be over a thousand, but its resell demand is so high that is barely looses value by using it and it also has the highest efficiency, so this would actually be the cheapest option, cheaper and better and nicer than laptops with a lower cost of purchase. getting new tech is dumb anyway no matter what
Yeah, it's good for casual user
But like, there is no clear slice of cake for it
If I am casual user,
Says, I don't have any specific software, I want battery life, and I want to use ARM. I can always use Apple Macbook. Sure, it's not Windows, but software support is much better at this point.
If I play games
or have any specific software, x86 is always the choice. Windows on Arm is the 3rd branch after x86 and Apple, any software support or official release will be behind. It really is overhyped, there is no real reason to use it now or soon. Unless things changed in next 10 years, but Intel/AMD is not gonna watch and do nothing.
Great review as always. For windows power mode, did you run it at balanced, high performance, or best efficiency?
Amazing. Honestly, that's the best review so far!
Excellent analysis, thanks.
This is the video I was waiting for. Thank you. Very nice research.
I appreciate that
I was waiting for this video. The only honest and practical reviewer on TH-cam that you can always rely on. You don't have to worry about him getting paid to give a positive review of the product even if it is just marketing crap. This channel is highly underrated. He is wayyyy better than the other tech "reviewer" biggies. Gotta respect the fact that despite having a smaller userbase and thus lower revenue he doesn't give in the paid promotion requests from tech companies like they do.
Thank you for the truthful review! This is why you're the only one I watch when comes to laptops.
Fantastic review! Very informative 👍 thanks a lot ❤
Seems little biased and hateful on snapdragon chips. When the M1 was introduced everybody on that bandwagon that calling the ARM was the future, even though there were a lot of compatibility issues with many applications. But most of these reviewers were appreciating (praising) battery life & benchmark results. Nobody cared about app compatibility, (8 GB so-called unified RAM) and now some company has come up with a solution for Windows so many Apple Sleeper cells were just woke up and bashing the Snapdragon X series.
Yes, if you can wait for the apple solution, so wait a little for the Windows (Qualcomm's) updates. It will be improved and outperform Apple's useless (8 GB/256 GB) hardware in the price-to-performance ratio.
Its interesting. Windows users normally makes fun of gaming on apple computers. Any 4 years old M1 apple computer CRUSHES these new arm pcs in gaming in every possible way (what games can run and how they run)
Crushes , lol what a shill , and what games ? 30% of my game library?
People miss the point of these laptops, the majority of buyers are looking for an office suite, basics machine, that is fast, reliable and has great battery life. Your typical mom and pop or corporate giving a powerpoint presentation to off-site clients isn't going to be using Matlab. They wan't a Windows platform machine with tablet-like battery and portability in a traditional form factor. For that, the Snapdragon machines seem like a fantastic option if you have to buy now.
We are definitely aware of this and agree with you
We can all deduce that the problem lies in Bloatware called Windows OS. Similar work if went on optimizing Linux for Arm, I am sure that would be as performant/efficient as Macbook.
Stupid comment.
you know if and when linux works for arm, it might have better support for it compared to something like windows since there have been arm versions of the repos on linux for several years at this point
your hate for windows is the reason windows is successful and linux is free but no one wants it. Linux users are so annoying.
@@David-Zita nah, windows is successful because it comes from microsoft and microsoft is a huge company with lots of resources,and it came first, so most people used it, so most companies developed their apps for it because of that, and so on. apple is not a competitor cause it has a different user base, and linux is open source, so it has no resources to compete, and because it became viable much later, most professional apps are already developed for windows.
most people also do not want to learn a new OS, they want to stick with what they are used to.
windows is crap, it just has no real competitor given the circumstances.
A lot of professional/enterprise software simply doesn't work on Linux, unlike MacOS or Windows.
The amount of work you put into gathering a lot of information and distilling it into a relatively short video is very appreciated.
Linus tech tips once again showing why they are irrelevant in the tech review space
They are the absolute worst, and they think they are funny and entertaining.
Did they release a review on this?
From what ive seen they stated the issues aswell what do you mean?
Wow. Short and snappy video review. Why doesn't Josh have 1M subscribers already? Just subscribed.
I'll be waiting for Intel Lunar lake based on 3nm, should be out in one or two months.
earliest september. but finishing the chip does not mean OEMs are ready. You have to wait end of year / 2025 for a full release of laptops.
@@maurizio835 Intel always has laptops ready on launch, unlike AMD. While youre right we wont see every laptop design ready, there will DEFINITELY be more designs in the first few weeks than Snapdragon will have all year, so people wont really have to wait.
Great info! Real life use cases! Love it!
I'm pretty sure that ARM will be the way to go for all laptops in a few years
i hope not
Doubtful. We’ve seen this before. Just more hype this time.
@@BurnsRubberMajor tech companies are going to release support for Qualcomm laptops for their applications, so going forward ARM is the future of mobile computing or will compete alongside Intel, AMD, and Mac.
@@LetsGoBowlingNiko We’ll see. This transition won’t be simple or easy. Corporate IT departments would need to buy in along with all x86 software companies. The launch of these Qualcom (Nuvia) SoCs has been a disaster. They offer similar performance to current Gen Intel/AMD with substantial bugs, compatibility and performance limitations at similar prices. They might have a role for limited functionality low end laptop but won’t compete in the longterm with Intel and AMD. Competition between Intel and AMD is fierce right now.
It's not sure, it's far away in efficiency (if you compare with the oher ARM chip), so if the AMD and Intel answer will have better efficiency, why would you do all the reworks if the result even inferior like you don't do anything just stick to the newer x86 model?
Thank you for including programming tasks and Linux. It's nice to see a reviewer covering this many bases, even for non-mainstream uses.
Best professional review hands down. I guess these are over-hyped and half-booked as usual from Microsoft. Intel will probably offer similar efficiency & superior compatibility with Lunar Lake in September.
These are a solid 1st gen. Also, why are we blaming Microsoft for third party software incompatibilities. M1 had a ton of software issues as well. In exactly the same way it had to happen with Apple, the dev community needs time to catch up and create native arm applications.
@@Kyt2024 It is because this is not the first gen by Microsoft & Qualcomm. They have been releasing ARM products for years now and this generation was supposed to be similar to the M1 moment Appl had but it clearly is not.
@@A15689 it’s very similar to M1 actually. And yes Microsoft and Qualcomm have done some other work on arm over the years but the x elite is a completely new initiative. It IS first gen. Like M1 this is the first moment now today where arm builds are worthwhile to make for windows. Things will improve significantly from here to their “M2” like they did with Apple. The only major difference tbh is Qualcomm did not focus on their GPUs enough for this first gen X elite, that’s going to be moved forward in the 2nd gen according to Qualcomm.
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@@Kyt2024 What makes this a completely new initiative versus the previous 8cx chip ?
Thanks for the thorough testing and honest opinions. If I wasnt already subscribed id subscribe again :)
0:11 what a line *"They're Hyped like there the second coming of JESUS* 😂😂😂
Great review and detailed from a user experience. This is different from other reviews that i have seen of this product. Much better! Thanks!
0:05 they're all Windows... I think you meant X86?
I've watched dozens of these X Elite device review/discussion videos, and this is the best so far. I've been recommending this video in the comments section of other videos that I feel somewhat misrepresent the drawbacks of this chip and only focus on the positives. There are positives for sure, don't get me wrong. If I was buying a Windows device and I mostly used web and mainstream office apps, I would be all over one of these. The battery life and snappy performance in native applications, especially and unsurprisingly in browsing the internet or using web-based programs, seems to be so good, particularly for the price. These chips are not overpriced. Personally, I can't use one of these yet because I need other programs, and I'm going to wait to see what Intel and AMD offers in its new chips in the coming months. Anyway, the point of this long comment is that I appreciate you, Josh, (and your team) putting out quality information, with the only agenda being to help the audience make the best choice for them.
Thank you so much. This video wasn't easy. We had 4 people working non stop for 7 days. And had to buy many laptops
People were unhappy when I said these Snapdragon X Elite are primary premium-priced Chromebooks, and at least it would be sensible to look at them that way in this first generation. With features like OLED, 120Hz, 16GB+ RAM, etc, they offer something extra over the budget Chromebook market.
But it diminishes returns in performance, efficiency, and compatibility as your work becomes more intensive or specialist. Add in a bootlocked system and no apparent eGPU support; USB4 does not appear to support that feature, and you have something less than the sum of its parts for users outside casual use. Incredibly, as some of these are priced in the Apple segment, they are far from comparable.
Yep! I am highly disappointed in the iGPU and missing drivers for Snapdragon X Elite laptops. They had such a long time to get the drivers ready and failed. Fortunately, the driver issues can be fixed with 3 months at best. The iGPU will have to take a whole new iteration.
@@akin242002When will MSFT allow developers to code binary directly to ARM CPU? BC TurboTax, Citrix, AutoCad, & so on will never use the WIndows store!
This is THE best MOST comprehensive Snapdragon review I have ever seen! EXCELLENT 👍🏽!!!
You literally just shat all over every other laptop reviewers. Your massive amount of work put into this video shows.
Josh you magnificent angel. No one deep dives enough just like you and I think other reviews. Also you are the only one trying linux on reviews and I really appriciate a lot
What an awesome comment! Thank you
The problem here is windows
MacOS i well integrated to the M series its not even close
Probably because macOS has been optimizing for M chips for 4 years, while Windows with Qualcomm is still working on it.
@@EibrahamCx It really has nothing to do with 4 years of optimization. The experience was already extremely polished when the first M1 laptops hit the market. For instance, all the applications Josh identified as incompatible with Snapdragon, like the audio software, worked perfectly on M1, even though many of them did not have native ARM versions at the time.
@@boshi9 exactly; Apple was way more hush-hush about the M series prior to them hitting shelves, and yet everything was so much more polished on release
Most of the issues listed in this video are only from the maker's preliminary testing. That's disturbing. There must be many more teething issues he hasn't even come across yet on those machines
The release feels under-baked and rushed to get to market before Apple's M4 and AMD Strix Point release
@@EibrahamCxthat is not optimization its tailored to the hardware.
@@EibrahamCxwhile advanced users at the aircraft engineering industry will be still using windows.
@JustJoshTech I came from the comment you made on Linus Tech Tips video. Your video about these new laptops is much better as it seems you are actually applying real world use cases and with more comparisons.
Excellent. Besides, Snapdragon chipsets do not run Windows Pro to the best of my knowledge. Surface Laptops with Snapdragon Elite is available only with Windows Home Edition which is a stripped down OS with no security feature and very limited networking feature.
BS. what a lie. It performs amazing. Typing on a Slim 7x Win 11 Pro 32 GB Ram ;).
Josh you are on top of it! thanks for a great review of this new tech
I guess we can wait for like a year at most until all these issues are ironed out. It was the case with the first Apple Silicon laptops as well. What Microsoft and Qualcomm have achieved is truly a marvellous step forward in Windows computers and it is certain that they will very soon fully replace x86 CPUs
I'll stick with my M3 MacBook but I'm really glad Windows laptops are catching up... If only they didn't have to run Windows...
mac is terrible
Please tell me you got the 16GB
@@raminMTL have you used it, ever?
@@Rascate81 New windows in those laptop eat upto 8 GB of ram and when MS will add more AI features it will eat more so 16 in windows full of bloatware is not enough
@@scientist30 I was talking about the MacBook. If it were for windows get the 32 GB if possible haha
You have exceptionally good tech videos, subscribed, keep it up!
Why hasn't someone combined these laptops with Nvidia GPUs
Bucz you can't
Arm gpus don't work like that... They are integrated.
@@luigidabro why can't they have dedicated GPUs
@wandering-jew go watch a video about arm gpus. These people can explain it better than me, but basically, the circuits around the CPU are very smushed together in a complex way for better performance.
@@luigidabro thats bs. arm is just a cpu architecture, it has nothing to do with where the graphics card is located or how it is connected. putting an integrated graphics cards into them is a choice independent of them being arm cpus.
First time I've seen you... Subbed! Hadn't heard of anyone trying Linux on a Snapdragon, and that's one of the things I'd want to do.
Linux Fans need to wait at least a couple of months, depending on distro
Yep, they are rushing an unfinish product
It also seems like they're dipping their toes in ARM bit don't want to take a foot out of x86. They're gonna walk down the middle of the road until they are squished like a grape and forced to make a choice and lean hard into it.
Agreed- he is an excellent way of navigating through the hype!
Mad respect for intel CPUs. Those cpus are x86 and is running really well. Especially that 185H and the 155H.
Just wait for strix point to arrive and be tested. Only ryzen offering shown was not even current gen from amd in these benchmarks
@@obsidian_blue the first generation ARC in the Intel 155H beats the 780M in the 7900HS CPUs. I have pretty good confidence in saying Intel's Battlemage will beat strixpoint if not halo point.
@@einstien2409 You're still comparing AMD's last gen against Intel's current gen. AMD current iGPU is 880M. Strix Point has 33% more compute cores than 880M and runs at a faster clock rate too. Strix will also have more compute grunt than lunar lake too
@@obsidian_blue 880M is next gen, the 7940HS is current gen. Pull your head out of the sand. The ARC GPUs came out about 6 months before RDNA3.
@@obsidian_blue when ARC was released, AMD was still rocking RDNA 2. 880M will be RDNA 3+. Battle mage will be the direct competition.
Will the ARM handle Java (IntelliJ), C++ (Visual Studio 2022) development, lots of compilation and will it run VMWare Workstation ? How better / worse would these workload run compared to Intel i5 (1235U)?
9:15 - no need to reply, you covered it all! ❤
Intel Lunar Lake is going to destroy Snapdragon X
Depends on how it's executed :(
I am betting on AMD.
@@Just_a_random_birb Both will. But the second X Elite series is something I am looking forward to as well, as this series was delayed and not supposed to launch this late lol
@@ashar8192lmao, snapdragon x was a big failure
Good one 🤣😂
oh gosh after many hours searching for pros and cons in depth, finally you mentioned everything including what us, graphic artists want to know ! Thank you !
this is great analysis and journalism, who knows how many hours and how much resources was spent to do this, I truly appreciate it
4 people for 8 working days. It was insane. Thank you for noticing though.
I've never clicked so fast