What's crazy is without the performance pack there is no way to shift gears manually. I drove a premium Ecoboost and you had PRNDL and that's it, no paddles, no + or - on the gear selector.
I have this in the convertible version. This guy is reviewing this as though it is supposed to be a muscle car, even though it is not the V8 GT. People who want the sort of things that seem important to him buy the GT. As a buyer of the 4 cyclinder (with no performance pack, and all season tires) what do I want? Better gas mileage. Enough get up and go for someone not looking to race (or ever to use track mode or a drift brake for that matter). Good looking. Cool tech (whether he likes it or not I do). Comfortable to drive. Easy operation of the convertible top. He clearly wants a fully loaded GT manual. He is upset that it doesnt meet his expectation of what a pony car HAS to be. I guess he thinks people like me shouldn’t be driving a mustang. I love my car.
I agree with what you say 100%. I bought a premium eco boost off the lot for $38,000 with options that brought the sticker to $43,575. That's $5,575 off the sticker. The base non-premium eco boost with the same motor and drive train starts at $31,000. I'm sure you can get that discounted into the 20's. My car will go 0-60 in 4.8 seconds (Car and Driver did 4.5). The GT with V8 will go 0-60 in 4.3 seconds.....a whopping half a second faster than mine. Plenty fast for me and I'll pass plenty of gas stations.
He's reviewing it as a muscle car because it uses a muscle car design, with a muscle car's name, and all of the associated history of that muscle car the brand has built up over 50 years. And there are undoubtedly a lot of people who look at this trim as potentially a cheaper way to get into that muscle car experience, so the review is informing them that this isn't going to cut it. It seems like the 4 cylinder is just not a good choice in these cars much like the 4 cylinder made no sense in the Jaguar F-Type. There will be edge cases with owners like you who really appreciate what it brings, but I think most people will find it cuts too many corners on the car's ambitions and reputation to be worth it, and that's what the video highlights.
Really?, even in the "muscle car" days, 318 Chargers, i6 Challenger/Mustang/Camaro rolled out the factory, it's a mass market car. The F-Type is an dedicated sports car like the Corvette. Too much insecurity..
@rynelanders the idea that mustangs are viewed only as muscle cars may be true in your circles but I had a V6 mustang convertible in the 1980s. It would not have blown the doors off anything. It was a fun affordable convertible.
@@samuelhaber2471 everything was slow in the 80s due to the fuel crisis from OPEC in the late 70s. I don't think that's indicative of the overall ethos the line is known for, nor is it in line with the current design of the Mustang. This one looks the same as the range-topping V8 one, which is what everyone thinks of when they think of Mustangs, so it's natural to review it in that context. I'm glad you're OK with a basic economy car in Mustang drag, and that's fine, but you can't get excited when everyone else rightfully compares this one to the standard and find it comes up short.
Guys, almost no one pays 40k plus for an EB. Fun fact - I got my GT PP Premium in 2015 for 40k. Great engine and looks, very reliable and comfortable. Terrible panel gaps and steering sucked. Handling was very good once I went aftermarket for bushings, shocks and springs but GR86 handles much better as its better dialed in.
it had much worse paper machet engine, worse chassis, worse, interior, no magnaride, no brembos no recaros. Brah, just be half intelligent. You can base model this car at $35k which is up in price, but then it IS a better engine and chassis with the digital tech. Golf GTis are selling for near $50k these days. you can still get this car with 315hp for $35k. fkn bargain.
Mustang interior used to have a design that was very identifiable “Mustang” and now it’s just giant generic screen, same as every other bland modern vehicle
Yep>>> that instrument panel belongs I a LINCOLN--- NOT A MUSTANG!!! 2023 was the last year that the dash somewhat resembled the original Mustang. Whoever changed the design should be told to go stand in the unemployment line!!!!
This time it’s entirely consumer inflicted though. To most consumers a sports car is just something that’s fast, they’ll happily accept fast SUVs as the sports cars of the future.
Just wait until all the years of heat and vibrations start causing them to fail. What do you when you're about to head into work, the entire ENTIRE dash, to include HVAC and drive mode controls on the car won't turn on? I almost miss the days of head units.
I've tried a bunch of S550 Mustangs (Ecoboost stock, Ecoboost modded, GT non-performance pack stock, Shelby GT350) and it's crazy how much variability there is in the handling and driving experience. The stock ones felt like absolute boats (wallowy suspension, super sensitive brake / accel pedal, zero grip) while the GT350 was up there with the best cars I've ever driven. Wish the base Mustangs were better tuned.
Interesting! I think a comfortable cruising car is what the vast majority of Mustang buyers prefer, hence why it is set up that way (i.e., those customers will genuinely come back to the dealer and make a warranty complaint if the steering wheel is wiggling about in their hands with feedback or if the ride is too harsh!) even if that's frustrating to enthusiasts. As you imply the engineers are more than capable of making a sharp driving machine, but they aren't allowed to for most variants (there's strict Ford NVH standards and all those kinds of things, that can be ignored for the GT350 but are strictly enforced for normal Mustangs).
I know cars are just that expensive nowadays, but holy crap almost 48 grand for that pile. At that point who cares about the Recaro’s just put in the comfort seats. I’m probably selling my GT 350 this year and I plan to put it up for 55. I’ve seen brand new GT models going for about 53.
Got my 2024 mustang ecoboost last November because it was on sale for 26k and just finished paying my wife’s VW Atlas and I need another car so that I can give my lancer Sportback GTS to my son as he is off to college. I live up state New York and love driving it through the mountains. I love the sound of the twin turbo and the breaks are great.
lol-over the top negative. Just drove the GT and the 2.3L turbo and loved the 2.3L. Way more nimble, handling. Way better for daily driving. $30k. Easy decision
I just had a mustang as a rental in Vegas. I felt the same about the displays. Very annoying to have to pause 5-10 seconds for some whacky animation every time you click a button while you’re driving.
Well at least it looks great as a diecast 1:18 scale model. Ford does not seem to understand how to engineer in steering feel for electric steering. (Time to call Porsche) Their marketing department determined that the four cylinder EcoBoost sold more in automatic form. Still if Ford really wanted to cater to the enthusiast driver, they would still offer the manual. Unfortunately, so many car manufacturers feel the need to go with computer generated Nintendo Game Boy dashboards today. I think the worst is Mercedes. I remember when Mercedes came out with the 1970 280 SE with a real wood dash that was finished varnish over wood and offered lots of chrome. Sports car had manual gauges etc. Technology sometimes does not improve the driving experience. After viewing this video, I think I'll stick with my 2022 Subaru BRZ limited 6 speed manual.
Zygrene drove a Fiesta ST on this very channel that had good electric power steering IIRC. I suspect they are able to make reasonable electric power steering but that the feedback is deliberately filtered out with pull-drift compensation and all those kinds of things, as that is what most customers want. Quote: "Now Ford has released details on another advantage of its EPS system - a software-based pull-drift compensation program thathelps keep a vehicle equipped with EPS on trackwhen faced with crosswinds or an uneven driving surface. When the [Ford pull-drift compensation] program detects extra effort being used,the electric motor adds torque in the proper direction to prevent the driver from having to make corrections to keep the car on course. The compensation program is said to be virtually undetectable by the driver when in operation, and the program automatically resets itself to compensate for changing road conditions or curving roads. Ford says *the pull-drift compensation program is designed to increase customer satisfaction in steering, suspension, and ride quality surveys by up to 50%* " - MotorTrend article "Ford Electric Power Steering Technology Offers Automatic Pull-Drift Compensation" "Most" customers intend to cruise on the highway with their Mustang and associate isolation with quality, unfortunately. 🤨 In VW Audis, if you have VAGCom you can go into the steering module and turn off the pull-drift compensation which is called "straight line running" -- this slightly improves the typical numb VW Audi steering. Thankfully there are still cars like the Subaru BRZ and RenaultSports & Alpines that have column mount motors and intentionally designed to have (rather than intentionally not have) steering feel!
@@TassieLorenzoI agree with everything you said. I also disabled a few of the steering assist settings in my MK6 GTI with VCDS and think it feels quite a lot more natural now. Especially when the fronts spin
@@TassieLorenzo Of course the Fiesta was engineered in Europe. And frankly it gets down to standards of driving. Ford has been around long enough to know how to engineer suspension and steering. NO excuse!
This from a company whose 9 out of top 10 best selling vehicles are either trucks, vans or Econo boxes. The exception is the mustang. In the words of Ken Miles to Leo Beebe in Ford vs Ferrari: It looks fantastic. But inside, it's a lump of lard, dressed up to fool the public. My advice is, lose the inline-six and that idiotic three-speed, shorten the wheelbase, somehow lose half a ton, and lower the price: But even then, I'd still choose a Chevy Chevelle. And that's a F'n horrible car.
just checked on the ford site and a similarly spec'd gt would only be roughly 12k more. still very expensive but still better value than this lol. if the drivetrain is bad no matter what the ecoboost makes more sense without all the options, i guess for someone that wants a cool looking coupe and isnt worried about driving it hard lol
To be fair this car is not meant for how you’re driving it. If you’re wanting speed and performance you go to the GT. This caters more for the everyday driver. This is a more daily driver than a performance car.
I own an S550 Ecoboost, and it’s a great tuner car at 25K, and I love it… but at 48K with no manual option, and more weight and faffery.. why would you buy this over a GR86 or even a GT??? Ford have totally lost the plot with the new S650 Ecoboost.
Call it gatekeeping if you'd like, but no enthusiast buys a four cylinder Mustang. Not sure why they even bother offering the performance package on this.
I love how he says the interior will be outdated in 5-10 years when brand-new Mercedes and BMW products have very similar interior designs. Also, I have no idea why you need to grab second gear there when you are already in the meat of the power band. I'll be honest, I think we drove different cars because after driving this I was genuinely impressed with the balance, throttle response, and handling.
watches ecoboost review... ends up watching some millennial complain about the gearbox only for 7 of the 10 mins. For what its worth, looks like the car was haulin ass pretty well through the canyon despite your complaints. you comparing to a M4 comp? lolz
If you are considering an HiPo Ecoboost Mustang you need to do yourself a favor and test drive a BMW 230i M-sport. Ford essentially tried to copy BMW and failed.
The cars made by Ford-Werke GmbH in Germany and Belgium have pretty good panel gaps and quality control. I guess it depends factory-to-factory on the age of the equipment and so on. Some Ford factories use older equipment on the production line -- the factory in Australia building Falcons and Territories was using really old equipment, as there wasn't a business case to refurbish the factory. I guess where Mustangs are made in Flat Rock, Detroit uses older equipment too (or American QC doesn't care, there isn't much of an attitude of setting aside cars with leaky seals and bad panel alignment for rework as that would set back production targets? "get it out the door!").
Got my 2024 mustang ecoboost last November because it was on sale for 26k and just finished paying my wife’s VW Atlas and I need another car so that I can give my lancer Sportback GTS to my son as he is off to college. I live up state New York and love driving it through the mountains. I love the sound of the twin turbo and the breaks are great.
@@Zygrenemost people including me I like the huge variety and actually really prefer the cars under 50k used or new I want to see what I could potentially enjoy for the money
This model is a techno-turd - the EMF coming off those silly shinny scenes alone is enough to give anyone a headache. Here's some advice, find and purchase a used REAL mustang from the 60s.
@@opmike343 There were plenty of modified stock Mustang GTs in the Bathurst 6 hour production car race. The engine has to be stock but boost is free, so this race tends to dominated by BMWs like M2s and M4s where there is a lot of scope to turn up the boost. You're allowed to change out the coilovers, brakes etc but most of the cars still use all the OEM CAN BUS wiring and need to do a pedal dance to defeat traction control before they go racing! Bathurst has always been a bit of a power circuit and muscle cars (Mustangs, Falcons, Camaros, Commodores, even Jaguar XJS V12s) have always gone well there due to the two long straights, even if cars like the BMW E30 M3 were much faster over the top of the hill.
You got a car hoping it was one thing and it was not. This is not a GT, this is a 4 cylinder turbo PONY car. I suspect you are likely looking for ways to not like it more than like it. You would probably be happier getting a 2025 Camaro or maybe a 2024 Charger...Oh wait..
Not taking your opinion on this car specifically because your complaint about downshifts as someone who actually know how to drive that car specifically it’s not going into second.
They can't keep ecoboosts on the lot. You'll see more 5.0's on the lot than ecoboosts around here. The Ecoboost premium with performance pak is a bit pricey. But the Coyote with performance pack will set you back and extra 10K on top of that. The one to get (Ecoboost) is the base model with 101A equipment group and active valve exhaust. That will only set you back just under 36K. Plus there is a $500 aftermarket software update that will add 65 WHP. It would be easy get it close to 400HP. And no hot babe ever looked twice at a Mitzu or a Honda. :)
Let's see. Iconic heritage (dare I say soul?), 0-60 in the low 5 second range, convertible availability, flirts with 30 mpg numbers, regular Ford Tech updates over time, noting that past Mustangs were offered with 4 cylinders, and it's not something that looks like everything else out there. Hmmm. A touch of ODD on your part?
Question: how often does he read out how much a Porsche costs ? Or better yet, the underpowered, overpriced Hondas and Acuras he loves. I'll wait for the answer. About the displays - BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Chevy, all have tech like this. So are you saying it needs more RAM, or are you one of the guys that thinks analog should be around forever? And people say he's not biased ? Right!. He's the only person I know that's found a leaking window in a Mustang. You mean to tell me all the clapped out Porsches, S2ks, Miatas he drives don't ever have mechanical issues, but the Mustang he points out issues and the price? He's just like any other Honda/Acura owner. They will lie about quality just to make their overpriced , underperforming, Hondas and Acuras look better. He is full of 💩
The leaking window issue is a legit concern though, considering this is a brand new 2024 Mustang and not a clapped out used car. I don't really care about a turbo 4 Mustang costing 48K, so long as its a good drivers car and can compete with other performance cars in its price range. I hate when people compare the turbo 4 Mustang to the V8 Mustang. Wtf is the point? That's like comparing a Civic Si to a Civic Type R, or a Golf GTI to a Golf R, or a BMW M340i to a BMW M3. The turbo 4 Mustang at this 48k price needs to be compared against the Civic Type R, WRX TR, Corolla GR, 400Z base model, Supra 2.0, etc. It seems to be more of a GT car versus those others, and that's ok if that is something you're looking for. And yeah, Porsche charges 70K for a base Cayman with a turbo 4. It competes with a base model V8 Corvette at that price. Porsche has been out of their minds on pricing and options. They are some of the worst offenders.
“You would expect a mustang to be really easy to control at the limit” I don’t think the internet agrees with you there boss lol.
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Oh, that’s good.
Had the same thought, hahaha
What's crazy is without the performance pack there is no way to shift gears manually. I drove a premium Ecoboost and you had PRNDL and that's it, no paddles, no + or - on the gear selector.
Even fiat puntos in the 2000s had + - in their automatics😂
Why tf would you buy an automatic mustang? Disgusting.
@@steve8803 I didn't buy an automatic mustang, I drove one.
I have this in the convertible version. This guy is reviewing this as though it is supposed to be a muscle car, even though it is not the V8 GT. People who want the sort of things that seem important to him buy the GT. As a buyer of the 4 cyclinder (with no performance pack, and all season tires) what do I want? Better gas mileage. Enough get up and go for someone not looking to race (or ever to use track mode or a drift brake for that matter). Good looking. Cool tech (whether he likes it or not I do). Comfortable to drive. Easy operation of the convertible top. He clearly wants a fully loaded GT manual. He is upset that it doesnt meet his expectation of what a pony car HAS to be. I guess he thinks people like me shouldn’t be driving a mustang. I love my car.
I agree with what you say 100%. I bought a premium eco boost off the lot for $38,000 with options that brought the sticker to $43,575. That's $5,575 off the sticker. The base non-premium eco boost with the same motor and drive train starts at $31,000. I'm sure you can get that discounted into the 20's. My car will go 0-60 in 4.8 seconds (Car and Driver did 4.5). The GT with V8 will go 0-60 in 4.3 seconds.....a whopping half a second faster than mine. Plenty fast for me and I'll pass plenty of gas stations.
He's reviewing it as a muscle car because it uses a muscle car design, with a muscle car's name, and all of the associated history of that muscle car the brand has built up over 50 years. And there are undoubtedly a lot of people who look at this trim as potentially a cheaper way to get into that muscle car experience, so the review is informing them that this isn't going to cut it.
It seems like the 4 cylinder is just not a good choice in these cars much like the 4 cylinder made no sense in the Jaguar F-Type. There will be edge cases with owners like you who really appreciate what it brings, but I think most people will find it cuts too many corners on the car's ambitions and reputation to be worth it, and that's what the video highlights.
Really?, even in the "muscle car" days, 318 Chargers, i6 Challenger/Mustang/Camaro rolled out the factory, it's a mass market car. The F-Type is an dedicated sports car like the Corvette. Too much insecurity..
@rynelanders the idea that mustangs are viewed only as muscle cars may be true in your circles but I had a V6 mustang convertible in the 1980s. It would not have blown the doors off anything. It was a fun affordable convertible.
@@samuelhaber2471 everything was slow in the 80s due to the fuel crisis from OPEC in the late 70s. I don't think that's indicative of the overall ethos the line is known for, nor is it in line with the current design of the Mustang. This one looks the same as the range-topping V8 one, which is what everyone thinks of when they think of Mustangs, so it's natural to review it in that context. I'm glad you're OK with a basic economy car in Mustang drag, and that's fine, but you can't get excited when everyone else rightfully compares this one to the standard and find it comes up short.
Guys, almost no one pays 40k plus for an EB.
Fun fact - I got my GT PP Premium in 2015 for 40k. Great engine and looks, very reliable and comfortable. Terrible panel gaps and steering sucked. Handling was very good once I went aftermarket for bushings, shocks and springs but GR86 handles much better as its better dialed in.
yeah this car was a lot better when it cost $25k and had a manual option.
The premium mustangs always been expensive the car still cheap you can get a performance pack for 35k and the base models cost $32k
@@ohh48832k is insane. A LT1 camaro used to start at 34k. You got a literal corvette engine…
it had much worse paper machet engine, worse chassis, worse, interior, no magnaride, no brembos no recaros. Brah, just be half intelligent. You can base model this car at $35k which is up in price, but then it IS a better engine and chassis with the digital tech.
Golf GTis are selling for near $50k these days. you can still get this car with 315hp for $35k. fkn bargain.
It’s a fleet vehicle. A mustang for none car people who like the look of a sports car but don’t plan on driving aggressively.
Mustang interior used to have a design that was very identifiable “Mustang” and now it’s just giant generic screen, same as every other bland modern vehicle
Yep>>> that instrument panel belongs I a LINCOLN--- NOT A MUSTANG!!!
2023 was the last year that the dash somewhat resembled the original Mustang.
Whoever changed the design should be told to go stand in the unemployment line!!!!
For real. S550 interior was beautiful. Nothing about the S650 interior says mustang besides the mustang logo being there…
The price goes up but the quality and passion for the product goes down. Unfortunately what we see a lot of in this economy in every industry.
We are truly in a new malaise era of automobiles. The high horsepower and performance is just clouding the underlying issues.
This time it’s entirely consumer inflicted though. To most consumers a sports car is just something that’s fast, they’ll happily accept fast SUVs as the sports cars of the future.
Nearly $50k for a 4 cylinder mustang. Impressive!
Over $50 after taxes and everything for an eco boost? Wtf has this world come to, I appreciate the review tho
Man the tablet dash fad currently sweeping across all the OEMs drives me insane
Just wait until all the years of heat and vibrations start causing them to fail. What do you when you're about to head into work, the entire ENTIRE dash, to include HVAC and drive mode controls on the car won't turn on? I almost miss the days of head units.
Yep, looks like ass.
I've tried a bunch of S550 Mustangs (Ecoboost stock, Ecoboost modded, GT non-performance pack stock, Shelby GT350) and it's crazy how much variability there is in the handling and driving experience. The stock ones felt like absolute boats (wallowy suspension, super sensitive brake / accel pedal, zero grip) while the GT350 was up there with the best cars I've ever driven. Wish the base Mustangs were better tuned.
Interesting! I think a comfortable cruising car is what the vast majority of Mustang buyers prefer, hence why it is set up that way (i.e., those customers will genuinely come back to the dealer and make a warranty complaint if the steering wheel is wiggling about in their hands with feedback or if the ride is too harsh!) even if that's frustrating to enthusiasts. As you imply the engineers are more than capable of making a sharp driving machine, but they aren't allowed to for most variants (there's strict Ford NVH standards and all those kinds of things, that can be ignored for the GT350 but are strictly enforced for normal Mustangs).
I know cars are just that expensive nowadays, but holy crap almost 48 grand for that pile. At that point who cares about the Recaro’s just put in the comfort seats. I’m probably selling my GT 350 this year and I plan to put it up for 55. I’ve seen brand new GT models going for about 53.
why selling the gt350?
GT350 for 55 is a great value. Most sport cars nowadays start at 50K and don't have the character and ability to track like the GT350.
Very weird to option the very pricey handling package with the garbage Ecoboost motor.
How is it garbage lol you know nothing about it
Got my 2024 mustang ecoboost last November because it was on sale for 26k and just finished paying my wife’s VW Atlas and I need another car so that I can give my lancer Sportback GTS to my son as he is off to college. I live up state New York and love driving it through the mountains. I love the sound of the twin turbo and the breaks are great.
The 2.3 ecoboost is a great engine!
48k?!?!? For this?!?!? Might as well put that money and go for a used S550 GT and save the rest.
Great review! If you got this through Ford as a press car and they see this video, you're not going to be getting another Ford ever again hahaha.
Horrible car for 48k.
Mustang or corolla for 48k 🤔
@@mengx94Corolla all day. CTR/ITS over both.
Inflation is crazy. 48k for the base engine
@@mooeingagreed but TBF he said the base price was $36K, so they added $12K in options.
@@RyneLandersgot everything BUT the V8💀😂horribly optioned car
It's stressful enough just watching this video. I can't imagine how much worse it would be to actually drive it.
You know what’s insulting? The ecoboost starts at 32k. A LT1 camaro was 34k. 48k before taxes is ludicrous!
Great honest review! Thank you for telling it straight 👊
Good review, but it made me wonder how the owner felt about this review.
@@BrianWEnglishIt has a manufacturer plate, seems it might be a demo car
@@FCustureri Oh good point, I needed to finish my coffee before watching
@@BrianWEnglish Haha, fair!
lol-over the top negative. Just drove the GT and the 2.3L turbo and loved the 2.3L. Way more nimble, handling. Way better for daily driving. $30k. Easy decision
Did you buy that rear spoiler or was it installed already on the vehicle?
I just had a mustang as a rental in Vegas. I felt the same about the displays. Very annoying to have to pause 5-10 seconds for some whacky animation every time you click a button while you’re driving.
Hertz & enterprise are gonna be all over this
Well at least it looks great as a diecast 1:18 scale model. Ford does not seem to understand how to engineer in steering feel for electric steering. (Time to call Porsche) Their marketing department determined that the four cylinder EcoBoost sold more in automatic form. Still if Ford really wanted to cater to the enthusiast driver, they would still offer the manual. Unfortunately, so many car manufacturers feel the need to go with computer generated Nintendo Game Boy dashboards today. I think the worst is Mercedes. I remember when Mercedes came out with the 1970 280 SE with a real wood dash that was finished varnish over wood and offered lots of chrome. Sports car had manual gauges etc. Technology sometimes does not improve the driving experience. After viewing this video, I think I'll stick with my 2022 Subaru BRZ limited 6 speed manual.
Zygrene drove a Fiesta ST on this very channel that had good electric power steering IIRC. I suspect they are able to make reasonable electric power steering but that the feedback is deliberately filtered out with pull-drift compensation and all those kinds of things, as that is what most customers want. Quote:
"Now Ford has released details on another advantage of its EPS system - a software-based pull-drift compensation program thathelps keep a vehicle equipped with EPS on trackwhen faced with crosswinds or an uneven driving surface. When the [Ford pull-drift compensation] program detects extra effort being used,the electric motor adds torque in the proper direction to prevent the driver from having to make corrections to keep the car on course. The compensation program is said to be virtually undetectable by the driver when in operation, and the program automatically resets itself to compensate for changing road conditions or curving roads. Ford says *the pull-drift compensation program is designed to increase customer satisfaction in steering, suspension, and ride quality surveys by up to 50%* "
- MotorTrend article "Ford Electric Power Steering Technology Offers Automatic Pull-Drift Compensation"
"Most" customers intend to cruise on the highway with their Mustang and associate isolation with quality, unfortunately. 🤨
In VW Audis, if you have VAGCom you can go into the steering module and turn off the pull-drift compensation which is called "straight line running" -- this slightly improves the typical numb VW Audi steering. Thankfully there are still cars like the Subaru BRZ and RenaultSports & Alpines that have column mount motors and intentionally designed to have (rather than intentionally not have) steering feel!
@@TassieLorenzoI agree with everything you said. I also disabled a few of the steering assist settings in my MK6 GTI with VCDS and think it feels quite a lot more natural now. Especially when the fronts spin
@@TassieLorenzo Of course the Fiesta was engineered in Europe. And frankly it gets down to standards of driving. Ford has been around long enough to know how to engineer suspension and steering. NO excuse!
I'm here for the butthurt comments.
This from a company whose 9 out of top 10 best selling vehicles are either trucks, vans or Econo boxes. The exception is the mustang. In the words of Ken Miles to Leo Beebe in Ford vs Ferrari: It looks fantastic. But inside, it's a lump of lard, dressed up to fool the public. My advice is, lose the inline-six and that idiotic three-speed, shorten the wheelbase, somehow lose half a ton, and lower the price: But even then, I'd still choose a Chevy Chevelle. And that's a F'n horrible car.
just checked on the ford site and a similarly spec'd gt would only be roughly 12k more. still very expensive but still better value than this lol. if the drivetrain is bad no matter what the ecoboost makes more sense without all the options, i guess for someone that wants a cool looking coupe and isnt worried about driving it hard lol
Should do a review of a 370z nismo, been a long time since you reviewed a 370
Who is stupid enough to buy a 48k mustang a 4 banger at that!!!!
For a 4 banger sounds pretty good
315hp is literally more than any GT before like 2011 or something. Definitely a sick car but not for 50k.
Inside its like a truck😭
I got mine for 39k all upgrades and packages because it got repoed and wnded up at a Honda dealership lol. I like mine, but would t like it for 48k
Why do the seats look so fragile when he accelerates like i dont think shey should be moving that much
would not buy one for performance driving. would consider a low option trim as a big coupe for cruising.
I have a 2024 GT Convertible great car tech is great, big difference with the 480 HP.
48K for that???? HAHAHAHA
That's 5.0 territory!!!
To be fair this car is not meant for how you’re driving it. If you’re wanting speed and performance you go to the GT. This caters more for the everyday driver. This is a more daily driver than a performance car.
How is it compared to the manual EcoBoost S550?
I haven't driven a manual Ecoboost
I own an S550 Ecoboost, and it’s a great tuner car at 25K, and I love it… but at 48K with no manual option, and more weight and faffery.. why would you buy this over a GR86 or even a GT??? Ford have totally lost the plot with the new S650 Ecoboost.
Those seats are SICK
8:59 was savage AF 🤣
Call it gatekeeping if you'd like, but no enthusiast buys a four cylinder Mustang. Not sure why they even bother offering the performance package on this.
48k hell no. I got my S650 GT for way less 🤘🏾
For 48k I can get a 13-14 Gt500 or a 350. Very close to the price range of those beautiful cars.
Lotsa great used performance cars out there for 48k
And this car surpasses the Camaro and Challenger???
Ok I thought I was the only one who heard the wind noise in mije
Awesome review man! Man that's hugely disappointing for Ford.
Here's a redeeming quality come and raise me goofball.
I love how he says the interior will be outdated in 5-10 years when brand-new Mercedes and BMW products have very similar interior designs. Also, I have no idea why you need to grab second gear there when you are already in the meat of the power band. I'll be honest, I think we drove different cars because after driving this I was genuinely impressed with the balance, throttle response, and handling.
Everyone has their own opinions...
Hertz is foaming at the mouth rn.
It's amazing that your video and Chris Cervenka's video offer such totally opposite views of this car. And he's an experienced autocross driver.
Base Gt is a better value at that price plus it sounds way better
Just buy GTI and tune it would be a lot of fun and also practical..
I had a fully spec'd GT 10 speed and got rid of it week 1 due to the poor transmission design. Absolute garbage that 10 speed.
watches ecoboost review... ends up watching some millennial complain about the gearbox only for 7 of the 10 mins. For what its worth, looks like the car was haulin ass pretty well through the canyon despite your complaints. you comparing to a M4 comp? lolz
I can’t imagine paying 47k for a loaded ecoboost when I can pay that for a base GT
Got the first gen ecoboost and it has more torque than a e92 m3. This will smoke a e92 m3 on track and on the road
If you are considering an HiPo Ecoboost Mustang you need to do yourself a favor and test drive a BMW 230i M-sport. Ford essentially tried to copy BMW and failed.
Find an 88 with a five speed for 8 grand and you'll have more fun and more money
Ford: Built Rough
The cars made by Ford-Werke GmbH in Germany and Belgium have pretty good panel gaps and quality control. I guess it depends factory-to-factory on the age of the equipment and so on.
Some Ford factories use older equipment on the production line -- the factory in Australia building Falcons and Territories was using really old equipment, as there wasn't a business case to refurbish the factory.
I guess where Mustangs are made in Flat Rock, Detroit uses older equipment too (or American QC doesn't care, there isn't much of an attitude of setting aside cars with leaky seals and bad panel alignment for rework as that would set back production targets? "get it out the door!").
Wow, whole lot of nope with this one. A lot of better ways to spend almost $50k
Guess OEMs and stealerships are determined to ensure I never buy a new car. Why pay that much for _this?_
Needs a manual.
I just paid 12k for an ecoboost feel like a winner for what I got but 48k nope 👎 my car looks way better than that one too
The car is way overpriced but these cars aren't meant to cut up winding roads.
Got my 2024 mustang ecoboost last November because it was on sale for 26k and just finished paying my wife’s VW Atlas and I need another car so that I can give my lancer Sportback GTS to my son as he is off to college. I live up state New York and love driving it through the mountains. I love the sound of the twin turbo and the breaks are great.
Mustang have always been for posers. Camaro baby!!! Actual handling prowess. $48k should get you a v8 1le
Be nice!
Fix Or Repair Daily😂
That dash is awful. I'll pass on these type of "plastic slab" interiors.
After the high of a 997 4.0 gt3 RS, you give us this review... meh (for the car, not your effort)
Sometimes it be like that. It's a weird outcome of having access to such a wide range of cars.
I think this video perfectly encapsulates why those Porsches are so expensive and desired.
@@Zygrenemost people including me I like the huge variety and actually really prefer the cars under 50k used or new
I want to see what I could potentially enjoy for the money
I personally would ALWAYS be in Sports Mode and why not
Imagine buying this instead of a cayman…or a m340/240 or 330i msport…or even a supra used 3.0 or new 2.0, low mileage c7 corvette, i can go on
Just traded my 2013 dodge charger r/t 5.7 hemi in for a 2024 mustang ecoboost high performance package with active valve exhaust.
This model is a techno-turd - the EMF coming off those silly shinny scenes alone is enough to give anyone a headache. Here's some advice, find and purchase a used REAL mustang from the 60s.
I think that car is not suposed to be driven that way. It is not a snake.
Driven what way? It's a canyon road, not Bathurst. If it can't do this, then what the hell is it for?
@@opmike343 it is a GT car. Does not have a dual clutch. It is a car for long road adventures.
If it's less practical than a civic, it should drive better, and it doesn't.
@@opmike343 There were plenty of modified stock Mustang GTs in the Bathurst 6 hour production car race. The engine has to be stock but boost is free, so this race tends to dominated by BMWs like M2s and M4s where there is a lot of scope to turn up the boost. You're allowed to change out the coilovers, brakes etc but most of the cars still use all the OEM CAN BUS wiring and need to do a pedal dance to defeat traction control before they go racing!
Bathurst has always been a bit of a power circuit and muscle cars (Mustangs, Falcons, Camaros, Commodores, even Jaguar XJS V12s) have always gone well there due to the two long straights, even if cars like the BMW E30 M3 were much faster over the top of the hill.
Get the v8 not much more.:.looks tacky too
American dumpster fire.
1. Base 4 cylinder mustang 48k
2. Mustangs dont sell
3. Mustang gets cancelled and turned into hybrid suv for 40k
4. Suv sells better
"Base 4 cylinder mustang 48k".....no. Base 4 cylinder mustang is 31k. Look it up.
You got a car hoping it was one thing and it was not. This is not a GT, this is a 4 cylinder turbo PONY car. I suspect you are likely looking for ways to not like it more than like it. You would probably be happier getting a 2025 Camaro or maybe a 2024 Charger...Oh wait..
What a pile lol
Not taking your opinion on this car specifically because your complaint about downshifts as someone who actually know how to drive that car specifically it’s not going into second.
48K! A manual F80 M3 for the same amount of money.....what a disaster.
They can't keep ecoboosts on the lot. You'll see more 5.0's on the lot than ecoboosts around here. The Ecoboost premium with performance pak is a bit pricey. But the Coyote with performance pack will set you back and extra 10K on top of that. The one to get (Ecoboost) is the base model with 101A equipment group and active valve exhaust. That will only set you back just under 36K. Plus there is a $500 aftermarket software update that will add 65 WHP. It would be easy get it close to 400HP. And no hot babe ever looked twice at a Mitzu or a Honda. :)
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All new cars are just ghey. I like my ‘06 Solara my sister gave me for free
Why would anyone get this over a Model 3 Performance?
what?🤣
You DON'T need to downshift at 4k rpm 😂 especially if redline is 6k. Just let the engine work and climb up the last couple rpm.
Let's see. Iconic heritage (dare I say soul?), 0-60 in the low 5 second range, convertible availability, flirts with 30 mpg numbers, regular Ford Tech updates over time, noting that past Mustangs were offered with 4 cylinders, and it's not something that looks like everything else out there. Hmmm. A touch of ODD on your part?
Question: how often does he read out how much a Porsche costs ? Or better yet, the underpowered, overpriced Hondas and Acuras he loves.
I'll wait for the answer.
About the displays - BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Chevy, all have tech like this. So are you saying it needs more RAM, or are you one of the guys that thinks analog should be around forever?
And people say he's not biased ? Right!. He's the only person I know that's found a leaking window in a Mustang. You mean to tell me all the clapped out Porsches, S2ks, Miatas he drives don't ever have mechanical issues, but the Mustang he points out issues and the price? He's just like any other Honda/Acura owner. They will lie about quality just to make their overpriced , underperforming, Hondas and Acuras look better.
He is full of 💩
The leaking window issue is a legit concern though, considering this is a brand new 2024 Mustang and not a clapped out used car.
I don't really care about a turbo 4 Mustang costing 48K, so long as its a good drivers car and can compete with other performance cars in its price range. I hate when people compare the turbo 4 Mustang to the V8 Mustang. Wtf is the point? That's like comparing a Civic Si to a Civic Type R, or a Golf GTI to a Golf R, or a BMW M340i to a BMW M3.
The turbo 4 Mustang at this 48k price needs to be compared against the Civic Type R, WRX TR, Corolla GR, 400Z base model, Supra 2.0, etc. It seems to be more of a GT car versus those others, and that's ok if that is something you're looking for.
And yeah, Porsche charges 70K for a base Cayman with a turbo 4. It competes with a base model V8 Corvette at that price. Porsche has been out of their minds on pricing and options. They are some of the worst offenders.
Lots of insecure v8 owners. The base model is why the v8 Mustang exist. Nobody forcing anyone to buy it..
this reviewer just hates. manual trans suck.. go row your own gears and get beat at the track. i run 13.1 in my ecoboost
Embarrassing comment 🤣