I have a 2020 ecoboost, and I'm just sitting here fuckin STUNNED they're marking the 2024 with a 4.5sec 0-60, when mine is only marked for 5.1sec......with the same power ratings
I believe the reason is the new testing numbers are from a slow roll start. I read somewhere the don't test from a dead stop for some reason. 🤷@@FunkyBananaBear
Love the cars, hate the community. People just shame anyone that can't afford nor want a v8. Like not everyone is planning to street race and spend lots of time in traffic, it would just be painful that have that much power available but never able to use it. Also dont got the money for gas and insurance loll
I own a 2024 GT but I understand where you’re coming from. Don’t let the trolls get to you. My GT is an automatic and I get a lot of crap from the “manual” community. It’s not worth getting into it with the “holier than thou” crowd.
@@LeadfootLouI noticed a lot of people who trash talk drive really bad cars in comparison too. Definitely have to do what makes YOU happy because you’re the only one who has to pay for it and live with it.
Unless you're stuck on the V8 sound, this will do what you need and more. This Mustang is more powerful than 80% of the V8 Mustangs ever made from 1964 till now. Me, I'm stuck on the V8 sound but I can appreciate this ecoboost for what it is.
I really don't get how the V8 is the "authentic" experience. The Mustang is not supposed to be, and was not when it was born, a performance car. The Mustang is a pony car, NOT a muscle car. It's a sporty, affordable car for young drivers. That was the MO with the Mustang. The first Mustang had the Thriftpower I6, which is a very fitting name like the Ecoboost I4. It's an economical engine for an economical sporty car. The fourth and fifth generations were the only ones to only have a V6 and V8, every other one had an economical engine choice. The EcoBoost is all 99% of people need. It's a quick, torquey, sporty car that is more than enough for city and suburban streets, which is what all but a handful of people use it for. It's fun but practical enough for everyday. That's the whole point of a pony car.
The V8 is the most authentic experience because what are the Mustangs of history that everyone remembers? The V8 ones. Sure it has always been a pony car. That’s fine. Get a turbo 4 or v6 or inline 6 one. Those are not bad vehicles. But, the V8 is just so such a melodic and mesmerizing experience. Mustangs that have less than a V8 are like popular pop music on the radio: perfectly easy to enjoy, but not something that people actively go out of their way to seek out. Meanwhile a V8 is Hendrix or Zeppelin. The gold standard. Take it from me: I spend an ecoboost but now I own a V8. An ecoboost is plenty fun and light on its feet, but so is a Honda Civic SI and many other vehicles. The V8 the is available in the Mustang makes it a total standout product.
I guess this guy hasn't seen the new 2025 Mustang GTD. I bought a base 2024 mustang gt 5.0, 6 speed manual, with active exhaust. 486 HP. That's decent right out. I plan on adding my own take of the GTD at a fraction of those cost. My first edition is a Whipple supercharger and slight body changes. Mustangs can be so much more than the ecoboost "pony" car
What you said rings true except for the part about I don;t get it. If you're an A to B guy say so. Can;t compare when mustang was new to today. completely different mindset from then to now. back then 150hp was still quick. 200hp was nutty. 300hp was insane. By todays standards 150hp (300) is quick, 200hp (450) is nutty and 300hp (650+) is insane. gotta take mindset into account. a 500hp car back then was like a 1500hp bugatti is now. 300hp is the new 120-150hp. as it should be. V8 sound is an american thing all the way around. Ive had 4s 6s n 8s. sound wise 8 every time no matter how much gas money it costs. V6? decent sound kinda sounds like old trucks. 4 cylinder sound? It's an eggbeater at best dude. If you don;t get it thats fine that means you're a "if it gets me from point A to point B" kinda guy. cool I can appreciate that.
@@weskirkland5850 “300hp is the new 120-150hp.” Yeah, I’m not saying it isn’t. The Thriftpower I6 Mustang had 101hp. The EcoBoost I4 is 315hp. The Mustang was designed as an economical but relatively sporty car. If 300hp is the new 120-150hp, then the 315hp EcoBoost is better than the 101hp Thriftpower while still holding up the economical design of the pony car. The Mustang wasn’t 200hp then so it doesn’t need to be 450hp now. That’s from your own comparison.
I rented one in all black for the weekend in Miami and was absolutely thrilled with the way the car accelerates and handles. It also looks great and catches a lot of attention, which in a place like Miami filled with exotic cars, is unusual.
V8 cars is a culture, a way of life. Turbo4 aint a bad vehicle they are stout responsible i would own one but i bought my 2014 v8 gt that i love cant get rid of her
That is actually one of the "beefiest" sounding 4 pots I've heard. I frankly think the 2.3 Eco Boost engine is an amazing power plant. And indeed eminently tunable. You can get a hell of a lot of power out of that engine. And at 315 hp. and 350 lbft. of torque it makes more power and torque than a naturally aspirated Ford 302 V8. And will get you over 30 mpg. on the highway. Carrol Shelby himself said you cant really use more than 300 hp. in the street. Not and keep your license. If I was buying a Mustang I'd buy the Eco Boost hands down.
I've always said something similar to my friends who mock me for buying the Ecoboost: "The Ecoboost lets you drive almost as fast as the GT, but WAY quieter, so you're not picking up on cops from blocks away lol. And on top of that, who are you buying all that GT speed for? The ecoboost is faster than 90-95% of the cars on the roads, that's all you'll really notice.
I got the V8 for the stick. I considered the Ecoboost, but then thought that I really missed stick shift rather than the A-10 (the Warthog, I call it- after the military plane) and I love a naturally aspirated car rather than having the tricks (turbo). Otherwise, I think it's a solid purchase for those who go down the 4-cyl road.
Thanks for the review of the ecoboost. 90% of my annual driving is at 50 mph or less in the city and I appreciate the better gas mileage. This powertrain is plenty for my needs. I'm sure that it's plenty for driving on the freeway too.
This is still a steal. I remember the 2005 producing 300hp costing the same as this. The fact this is the cost of a Wilderness Crosstrek these days this is a deal.
I've watched a lot of your videos and this is the first one where I've seen you as thrilled about a car as this one. So this Mustang must be amazing. Now I'm really tempted in test driving one!! Geezers!! Happy New Year!!
My 1999 Cobra has the best V8 engine of that era (32 valve DOHC). It is rated at 320 HP. Today a 4 cylinder produces 315 HP. What would make a V8 vs. Ecoboost comparison more informative? How about showing the HP/Torque curves for each and showing the weights of the cars. How do the different engines perform. Looking at internet Dyno runs the V8 reaches max torque at about 3500 RPM and the Ecoboost about 2200 RPM. I drove an Ecoboost a few years ago and was impressed at how quickly it accelerated and continued to pull strongly as long as I kept the pedal down.
I rented an Ecoboost Mustang convertible last October and took it to the Sedona and the Grand Canyon. While having the pops and burbles of a V8 would’ve been nice, it had more than enough power. What I really missed was a manual transmission. It’s a shame the Ecoboost doesn’t get one anymore.
A Ford spokesperson told Road & Track in an email less than 10 percent of last-generation Mustang EcoBoosts sold came with manual transmissions. While we're not surprised to hear the automatic was the preferred transmission for the four-cylinder 'Stang, This explains why the manual transmission was discontinued in the EcoBoost
October a year ago. The S550 EcoBoost still offered a manual transmission. Most younger drivers aren't familiar with driving a manual transmission plus the car rental companies purchase automatic EcoBoost because that's what customers want especially in larger heavy stop and start traffic cities.
@@DWH300 I get that manual transmissions are declining in popularity and it's a dying skill among younger enthusiasts. I'm just saying it would make the ecoboost even more fun.
@@denniss4951I'de rather not drive if I couldn't drive a car with a manual, boring as heck if it doesn't have one. I want to be in control of the drive, not along for the ride 🤣
The lack of physical controls for the HVAC is a deal breaker for me. I swore I’d never make that mistake again. I don’t need that aggravation in my life.
learn how to use it and in a month you'll never know the difference. might as well do it now because in 10 years there will be no knobs on anything in any car. you sound like the computer guys still clinging onto windows 7.
@@weskirkland5850it took me a while to notice your comment, but I wanted to let you know that your prediction about the future of automotive controls is incorrect. Giant touch screens that encompass all the controls we need to operate the vehicle are not new. They are not impressive, and they will not last. This form of one-dimensional, lazy engineering is not sexy, and it’s not safe. Auto makers will return to tactile, intuitive controls that are easy to operate while driving. We know physical controls are better and so do manufacturers. Also, thanks for assuming I don’t know how to use a touch screen. Clown.
I've owned an Ecoboost Mustang, a 3.7 V6 Mustang and two 5.0 Coyote powered ones.......yes, you do need the V8. I did like the light nose/turn in of the Ecoboost though.
With high interest rates and killer inflation, the price of this model is very appealing. I haven’t found any other sports cars I love in this price range. The fuel economy is a nice plus. This might be my next car!
Of course the GT is better. But people need to stop acting like the low displacement engine didn’t always exist. Most of us don’t need a V8 to get up to highway speed. Over 300hp is enough.
I’m a Mustang GT owner. I’m not knocking the 4 popper, but for me it has to be the Coyote 5.0 V8. I’ll probably eventually purchase an S650, but that iPad dash 😬. Note, my S550 5.0 has the six speed and Performance Pack 1. I just returned from a 3,700 road trip through West Texas, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. Overall milage 28+ MPG! On the interstate with cruse control set at 70 MPH I get 32 - 33 MPH!!! Love my Mustang. Whatever blows your dress up - Happy motoring.
I've been driving an 08 v6 since I got my license 10 years ago and I'm finally getting a new car and decided to go with a mustang again. I'm so torn between the eco and GT because I drove both and was very impressed with both. Something I know no v8 enthusiast will agree with me on is they kind of felt the same. I think that's because I wasn't racing or anything just driving on the highway. I always thought I want nothing but a v8 when I upgrade but I really don't know if just the sound and rumble is worth the extra 10k+. I'm still trying to decide but it's just so difficult.
I was privately invited by Regent Motors (Singapore), the authorised dealer in Singapore for Ford to pre-order this very mustang meant to hit our shores in 2H 2024. Comes with the 2.3 Ecoboost, and the spec comes with Recaro seats, High Equipment Group 201A as standard. Good to have a 2nd mustang for a change as a more economical car. I was invited because I had a S-197 II Phase 2 GT500 making 900hp in China when I was 16 10 years ago, and somehow the dealer caught wind of it because SVT specifically came down to tune it for me. The V8 isn’t offered in SG because of the tight emissions regulations and an annual road tax of 5 thousand dollars. I had my fun with the Trinity S/C V8.
I wouldn’t mind getting an ecoboost again but the fact that it doesn’t come in manual i have to get the gt, i currently have a 2018 exoboost and i really want to fully enjoy a mustang with the v8 and manual since this one is probably the last one like this
I drove a ‘98 Mustang V6 for 17 years. Now I have a’22 5.0 GT. Hell yes, you need the GT. The looks of the ecoboost won’t satisfy long-term. I absolutely guarantee the time will come when every 4 cylinder owner will wish they got a GT.
Because of the way my ecoboost premium was optioned the msrp was $43k. The window sticker was $47k with markups and packages. I paid msrp. I could’ve got a base GT for the same price but I wanted the better gas mileage and more upgrades instead of the v8 and cloth seats with the slip screens. Think I made a good choice?
I have a buddy who has a lightly modded ws6 trans am. Consistently hits 0-60 times of around 4.5 seconds. I have never ever gotten in that car and thought it was slow. Not even close. The car runs like a striped ape. So why the heck to people hate so hard on this. I say give respect where it's due. It's a 2.3L
@@cormaro13 in some countries, i do not live in the US, 4cyl cars cost 500 a year to register and V8s cost $1200 a year just in registration. This is besides all the other additional costs. So while i may get the GT, i think comparing a performance spec'd ecoboost where its handling is higlighted vs a GT with a much more powerful engine would be a good comparison to us non-US citizens.
I own an ecoboost and rented a 5.0 GT convertible mustang when I was in Vegas, car was fun and fast but I really don't need it, might buy an SN95 convertible GT sometime soon but you really don't need the GT, especially if you're like me and don't drive that fast to begin with
I know you won't agree but I test drove both and I gotta say, they felt kind of the same. Now I know they wouldn't on a drag strip but I'm not really a racer, the most racing I do is hitting the gas at a light or flying up the on ramp. I think they felt the same because their 0-60 is pretty damn close and shooting up the on ramp foot down the only difference was sound but with that active exhaust on the eco i was pretty impressed with it.
@@sks220 I can see your point but you're smoking dope if you think they feel similar v8s are way more of a throw you back in your seat, I've owned a 2021 ecoboost, 2013 gt, and now a 2024 gt, totally different animals. That being said your opinion is yours and you're entitled to it.
@@driftcat7076 I agree they're different, I guess it's just how I drive it, I don't floor it whenever I get the chance or challenge other muscle cars to races. Don't get me wrong I want a 24 GT, I just don't know if it's in the budget, lord knows I'm trying though.
Yes, you need the V8. Is it a good car, yes. But every time you get in it and start it, you will be reminded of how you could have had the GT for only about $6,000 more.
Like, others said. Its not just $6k, its $6k+ gas. Which for those commuting is a lot. I mean the GT is already starting off $120/month more without taking into account gas and more importantly insurance. I guarantee its easily over $200/month. Making it easy to consider an ecoboost for many.
It's interesting some of the choices that Ford made with this...some of the stuff is almost contradictory. Specifically thinking the fact that they have a full on track-mode and valved exhaust...but give you no version of manually controlling it with paddle shifters or a manual mode on the shifter. A car with all the noise but no way to play with it behind the wheel is just confusing
You're WRONG. The Ecoboost Premium is almost exactly $10,000 cheaper than the GT Premium. The automatic is standard on the 'Boost so that makes it about $11,600 cheaper than a GT Premium automatic.
I really wish they would make the back seat just a little bigger so it was usable with 4 adults for short trips. That's the only thing preventing me from buying one. There was more than enough room back in the day. Not sure when they switched both the mustang and camaro to basically two seaters.
I honestly think if Ford had a ecoboost mustang with a four door it would sell like crazy. I love all mustangs but I feel like the ecoboost would be a lot better of a daily with four doors. Especially since it’s overshadowed by the v8 model.
Only comment I have regarding the in cabin sound - if Ford continued from the S550, some of that growl you experience is from the sound symposer, which pipes in artificial engine sounds through the speaker system. I own a 2018 ecoboost, and it has plenty of power with a modest tune and other inexpensive bolt ons.
nothing beats a V8: the feel, the sound, the torque. I say get a base model V8--it has a lot of very good features. Plus the fuel economy is pretty decent, meaning that you won't be using that much more fuel than the EcoBoost model... Plus stick shift!!!
While the exterior of the new Mustang is passable (but certainly not inspiring, IMO), that dash with the huge screens does absolutely nothing for me. Really dislike that direction Ford took. Kudos to them for continuing with gas-powered Mustangs, however.
I would go so far as to call the interior hideous. Vaguely unpleasant shapes, style lines that clash, and that ungainly screen perched atop it all. Everything looks clunky and cheap.
@@tommc3622 The dash of the 2005 to 2014 is what a sports car dash should look like. The 2024 is a mishmash and looks like the designers could not agree on a unified design. Too many cooks in the soup.
I thought it looked pretty dumb too but then I test drove one and they are actually pretty nice, I don't really want an older used model because of how it looked when I was driving tbh.
As a former Mustang owner - some things I really like some I don't about the latest generation. I'm pretty sure though I'd spend the extra for the GT or go all the way for the Dark Horse. If this would be your "only" car or primary car or used as a "daily" then I can see getting the 4 cylinder - if this is a "weekend" ride or you don't have a daily commute then I can see how this might be a great choice for a fun and practical ride.
I had a GT. I’m getting the EcoBoost. Too much gas. I was always on E and at a gas station several times a week. Not hating at all but it’s time to cruise. I can’t even speed in my area anymore cuz of all the imports
It's funny how every new mustang the reviewer goes on about the track apps, meanwhile those same track apps have been available since 2015. It's nothing new at all. In fact every tech component of the car functions exactly the same since 2015. It's just wrapped different now with the new screens and haptic buttons.
My late father used to have 1989 Ford Mustang GT it was a a hatchback NOT a coupe with a back wiper back then it was a racely wagn NOT SUV with 5 speed stick back then it cost $28,000 Cobra was $45,000
@@NorthernWind603I thought that until I took a ride in a gt and realized it’s a bit excessive with the noise. The power delivery I could get use too but even from the factory it tends to be quite loud for me. The noises are cool when other people drive it but it wouldn’t be a good daily for me the gas consumption would eat through my wallet
Understood. I’ve gone away from wanting a straight piped GT like I did when I was 18. Now, just a bolt on exhaust does the job for me. The newer models come with the new active exhaust which has a quiet mode tho if you opt for it. The gas consumption I can’t help you on. Smiles per gallon as the term goes Lol
If I'm going to own a mustang it's going to be for the driving experience. Part of that experience is the sound. So, I would argue that the V8 definitely sounds better. Honestly, the EcoBoost sounds like garbage. But, the 2024 V8 Mustang exhaust sounds like shit too in comparison to previous years V8 models. Ford ruined it.
Well you can actually find the Sync 4 system in the latest Version of the Focus ST Facelift in Europe but this is a bit more advanced already. Makes me wonder if I can actually Upgrade the Infotainment in my 2022 Focus ST once the Mustang is out
The V8 mustang in all its glory didn't even come with an option for more than 300 horsepower until 2007. So the 2024 EcoBoost has more horsepower than literally every factory mustang on the road before then. For 0-60 time, the GT is LESS THAN A SECOND (less than half a second in many of the road tests) faster than the EcoBoost.
This is a better Review than that TH-cam Guy dressed in shorts who is always remarking about how many Twinkies and other Junk Food he can stuff in door pockets or center consoles. He thinks he is funny, but that dude is totally annoying.
If you want longevity, you DO NOT buy a turbocharged 4cyl. Besides, I don't care what the HP is, Mustangs are supposed to have a V8. The resale value will suck as well.
can anyone give me some advice here? So currently, I drive a 2014 Dodge Charger R/T Plus and it has just over 107k miles on it. I still owe a fair amount on the finance. Now to clear things up, I bought the car with high miles because my job was only a mile away. Unfortunately, I herniated 3 discs and had to basically leave my job. I currently doordash for a living (Im 20 and in college) and its a decent gig. I already put nearly 3500 miles on it in the past month and a half. Although I do have a power train warranty, do any of you think it might be worth selling the 2014 RT and getting into the 4 cyl mustang?? The fuel efficiency is crucial. I profit somehow with getting 14 mpg so I can not even imagine 22-30 mpg.
A lot of police cars are 5.7 Hemi Chargers. 107,000 miles shouldn't be a problem, especially with a power train warranty. . How much cash would you have to add to buy the Mustang? $10,000 will buy 2,857 gallons of gasoline at $3.50 a gallon. At 14MPG, that will take you 40,000 miles. If you spend an extra $10,000 to get into an Ecoboost and get 22MPG (you're not Door Dashing on the freeway and turbos usually get worse than estimated MPG in real life), you'll go an extra 8 miles on each gallon. The Charger burns 25 cents of gasoline to travel one mile at $3.50 / gallon, the Ecoobost burns 16 cents of gas to move one mile. You'll save 9 cents a mile in gasoline driving the Ecoboost. You would have to drive the Ecoboost 111,1111 miles to pay back the $10K it cost you to get into the Mustang. After that, you'd start saving on gasoline. Of course, I doubt you would only have to add ten grand to what you get for your charger. Do you have $10,000 laying around? If not, add the cost of a loan. Don't forget more expensive insurance for the new car. And, you'd be nuts too keep the Ecoboost for 111,1111 miles or more without a powertrain warranty, so add that. YOU'D HAVE TO BE CRAZY NOT KEEP THE CHARGER. Don't forget, it's a lot easier to get in and out of Charger. Hopefully you won't have any more back problems, but if you do you'll' sell the Mustang in a heartbeat and loose a bunch of money on it just to cap things off. Buying a brand new car to save gas never makes sense.
@@jimjones-pz1tt hey thank you sm for the insight but sadly I’m selling it today. I’m just eating a little bit of the debt so that I can maybe get a newer one or get something a little bit better on gas until I’m able to really afford it comfortably. I really really appreciate your advice
You can’t even shift manually without the High Performance Package, there is no manual transmission available, and the GT looks markedly different from the EcoBoost now unlike the last gen. Ford definitely is making a statement with these choices. They want to clearly separate the models so no one ever sees an EcoBoost and thinks it’s a GT
I got nothing against 4 cylinder turbo cars, they can be fun, but having a MUSTANG, with a dyson sounding engine/exhaust it's a buzzkill, I don't care how good the car looks, having a Mustang it's all about the experience, and that 4 cylinder engine just kills the experience in my opinion.
Way too expensive for a 4 cylinder mustang… Back in 2018 new GTs were being sold for 30K. V6 and ecoboosts were around 22K. If you have money, just get a V8, much more fun.
I just don't understand why 315 horsepower isn't enough for people. Do you go out to the track and race every day? Mustang is not a race car. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
So I know that you won't be able to tune the new V8's without help from pre-established partners, but are the ecoboosts included in that as well? It'd be cool to be able to tune the new eco's but not the V8's right outta the box...would give the Eco something to brag about.
I got one of these, and it's a ton of fun to drive. 315 hp is plenty for my purposes and it handles beautifully. The acceleration is very impressive.
I have a 2020 ecoboost, and I'm just sitting here fuckin STUNNED they're marking the 2024 with a 4.5sec 0-60, when mine is only marked for 5.1sec......with the same power ratings
Car and Driver got the 4.5 reading. Their test car had the HPP package. Motortrend got 4.9.@@FunkyBananaBear
I believe the reason is the new testing numbers are from a slow roll start. I read somewhere the don't test from a dead stop for some reason. 🤷@@FunkyBananaBear
And doesn’t break the bank at the pump!
Love the cars, hate the community. People just shame anyone that can't afford nor want a v8. Like not everyone is planning to street race and spend lots of time in traffic, it would just be painful that have that much power available but never able to use it. Also dont got the money for gas and insurance loll
I own a 2024 GT but I understand where you’re coming from. Don’t let the trolls get to you. My GT is an automatic and I get a lot of crap from the “manual” community. It’s not worth getting into it with the “holier than thou” crowd.
@@LeadfootLouI noticed a lot of people who trash talk drive really bad cars in comparison too. Definitely have to do what makes YOU happy because you’re the only one who has to pay for it and live with it.
Ignore them. Get whatever you like and can afford.
Unless you're stuck on the V8 sound, this will do what you need and more. This Mustang is more powerful than 80% of the V8 Mustangs ever made from 1964 till now. Me, I'm stuck on the V8 sound but I can appreciate this ecoboost for what it is.
I rented one for the week to drive to pigeon forge. Lol. I’ve been outside my hotel looking at the car every 5 mins. 😂 I don’t wanna drop it back off
Drop it back off and go and buy a GT!!!
@@michaelmcdonald9847how about you let people buy what they want. It’s not your car so stop giving a fuck
first time in a decent car?
I really don't get how the V8 is the "authentic" experience. The Mustang is not supposed to be, and was not when it was born, a performance car. The Mustang is a pony car, NOT a muscle car. It's a sporty, affordable car for young drivers. That was the MO with the Mustang.
The first Mustang had the Thriftpower I6, which is a very fitting name like the Ecoboost I4. It's an economical engine for an economical sporty car. The fourth and fifth generations were the only ones to only have a V6 and V8, every other one had an economical engine choice.
The EcoBoost is all 99% of people need. It's a quick, torquey, sporty car that is more than enough for city and suburban streets, which is what all but a handful of people use it for. It's fun but practical enough for everyday. That's the whole point of a pony car.
Bravo! Finally a smart answer.
The V8 is the most authentic experience because what are the Mustangs of history that everyone remembers? The V8 ones. Sure it has always been a pony car. That’s fine. Get a turbo 4 or v6 or inline 6 one. Those are not bad vehicles. But, the V8 is just so such a melodic and mesmerizing experience. Mustangs that have less than a V8 are like popular pop music on the radio: perfectly easy to enjoy, but not something that people actively go out of their way to seek out. Meanwhile a V8 is Hendrix or Zeppelin. The gold standard. Take it from me: I spend an ecoboost but now I own a V8. An ecoboost is plenty fun and light on its feet, but so is a Honda Civic SI and many other vehicles. The V8 the is available in the Mustang makes it a total standout product.
I guess this guy hasn't seen the new 2025 Mustang GTD. I bought a base 2024 mustang gt 5.0, 6 speed manual, with active exhaust. 486 HP. That's decent right out. I plan on adding my own take of the GTD at a fraction of those cost. My first edition is a Whipple supercharger and slight body changes. Mustangs can be so much more than the ecoboost "pony" car
What you said rings true except for the part about I don;t get it. If you're an A to B guy say so. Can;t compare when mustang was new to today. completely different mindset from then to now. back then 150hp was still quick. 200hp was nutty. 300hp was insane. By todays standards 150hp (300) is quick, 200hp (450) is nutty and 300hp (650+) is insane. gotta take mindset into account. a 500hp car back then was like a 1500hp bugatti is now. 300hp is the new 120-150hp. as it should be. V8 sound is an american thing all the way around. Ive had 4s 6s n 8s. sound wise 8 every time no matter how much gas money it costs. V6? decent sound kinda sounds like old trucks. 4 cylinder sound? It's an eggbeater at best dude. If you don;t get it thats fine that means you're a "if it gets me from point A to point B" kinda guy. cool I can appreciate that.
@@weskirkland5850 “300hp is the new 120-150hp.”
Yeah, I’m not saying it isn’t. The Thriftpower I6 Mustang had 101hp. The EcoBoost I4 is 315hp. The Mustang was designed as an economical but relatively sporty car.
If 300hp is the new 120-150hp, then the 315hp EcoBoost is better than the 101hp Thriftpower while still holding up the economical design of the pony car. The Mustang wasn’t 200hp then so it doesn’t need to be 450hp now. That’s from your own comparison.
First time on your channel. I really like your vibe. Some TH-camrs sound like a commercial for the car. You don’t. Really appreciate it.
I rented one in all black for the weekend in Miami and was absolutely thrilled with the way the car accelerates and handles. It also looks great and catches a lot of attention, which in a place like Miami filled with exotic cars, is unusual.
V8 cars is a culture, a way of life. Turbo4 aint a bad vehicle they are stout responsible i would own one but i bought my 2014 v8 gt that i love cant get rid of her
V8 ftw yess
That is actually one of the "beefiest" sounding 4 pots I've heard. I frankly think the 2.3 Eco Boost engine is an amazing power plant. And indeed eminently tunable. You can get a hell of a lot of power out of that engine. And at 315 hp. and 350 lbft. of torque it makes more power and torque than a naturally aspirated Ford 302 V8. And will get you over 30 mpg. on the highway. Carrol Shelby himself said you cant really use more than 300 hp. in the street. Not and keep your license. If I was buying a Mustang I'd buy the Eco Boost hands down.
Very well said.
Well said brother
I've always said something similar to my friends who mock me for buying the Ecoboost: "The Ecoboost lets you drive almost as fast as the GT, but WAY quieter, so you're not picking up on cops from blocks away lol. And on top of that, who are you buying all that GT speed for? The ecoboost is faster than 90-95% of the cars on the roads, that's all you'll really notice.
I got the V8 for the stick. I considered the Ecoboost, but then thought that I really missed stick shift rather than the A-10 (the Warthog, I call it- after the military plane) and I love a naturally aspirated car rather than having the tricks (turbo). Otherwise, I think it's a solid purchase for those who go down the 4-cyl road.
I drove one as a rental for a week, loved it. Looking into getting one for myself now.
Thanks for the review of the ecoboost. 90% of my annual driving is at 50 mph or less in the city and I appreciate the better gas mileage. This powertrain is plenty for my needs. I'm sure that it's plenty for driving on the freeway too.
I have a 2015 Ecoboost Premium that has the Turbo Charged 4 Cylinder and love it! I don't need a damn V8 to have fun drive.
The Insurance is cheaper and gas usage is more affordable
Bingo
@@Tony-q4f3tThis is the main reason I would get this over the V8
33 mpg on the hwy is pretty good, especially if it comes with 350 lb ft of torque.
the v8 is rated at 31 so there isnt much between them
I just ordered a 2025 Ecoboost Premium Fastback 3 days ago, can't wait to get it.
This is still a steal. I remember the 2005 producing 300hp costing the same as this. The fact this is the cost of a Wilderness Crosstrek these days this is a deal.
I've watched a lot of your videos and this is the first one where I've seen you as thrilled about a car as this one. So this Mustang must be amazing. Now I'm really tempted in test driving one!! Geezers!! Happy New Year!!
Thanks for the great review from "Down Under". Hope to buy one in mid 2024 when they arrive in Australia in RH drive
Very impressive. Liking the new Mustang.
My 1999 Cobra has the best V8 engine of that era (32 valve DOHC). It is rated at 320 HP. Today a 4 cylinder produces 315 HP. What would make a V8 vs. Ecoboost comparison more informative? How about showing the HP/Torque curves for each and showing the weights of the cars. How do the different engines perform. Looking at internet Dyno runs the V8 reaches max torque at about 3500 RPM and the Ecoboost about 2200 RPM. I drove an Ecoboost a few years ago and was impressed at how quickly it accelerated and continued to pull strongly as long as I kept the pedal down.
I rented an Ecoboost Mustang convertible last October and took it to the Sedona and the Grand Canyon. While having the pops and burbles of a V8 would’ve been nice, it had more than enough power. What I really missed was a manual transmission. It’s a shame the Ecoboost doesn’t get one anymore.
that's because manual sucks. and this isn't a whole hell of a lot better, it isn't a dual clutch.
A Ford spokesperson told Road & Track in an email less than 10 percent of last-generation Mustang EcoBoosts sold came with manual transmissions. While we're not surprised to hear the automatic was the preferred transmission for the four-cylinder 'Stang,
This explains why the manual transmission was discontinued in the EcoBoost
October a year ago. The S550 EcoBoost still offered a manual transmission. Most younger drivers aren't familiar with driving a manual transmission plus the car rental companies purchase automatic EcoBoost because that's what customers want especially in larger heavy stop and start traffic cities.
@@DWH300 I get that manual transmissions are declining in popularity and it's a dying skill among younger enthusiasts. I'm just saying it would make the ecoboost even more fun.
@@denniss4951I'de rather not drive if I couldn't drive a car with a manual, boring as heck if it doesn't have one. I want to be in control of the drive, not along for the ride 🤣
The lack of physical controls for the HVAC is a deal breaker for me. I swore I’d never make that mistake again. I don’t need that aggravation in my life.
Aggravation😂
learn how to use it and in a month you'll never know the difference. might as well do it now because in 10 years there will be no knobs on anything in any car. you sound like the computer guys still clinging onto windows 7.
@@weskirkland5850it took me a while to notice your comment, but I wanted to let you know that your prediction about the future of automotive controls is incorrect. Giant touch screens that encompass all the controls we need to operate the vehicle are not new. They are not impressive, and they will not last. This form of one-dimensional, lazy engineering is not sexy, and it’s not safe. Auto makers will return to tactile, intuitive controls that are easy to operate while driving. We know physical controls are better and so do manufacturers.
Also, thanks for assuming I don’t know how to use a touch screen. Clown.
Came in for Real Men saying Manly Things about the v8, leaving satisfied. After all, beating someone to the next stoplight makes you somebody..
I've owned an Ecoboost Mustang, a 3.7 V6 Mustang and two 5.0 Coyote powered ones.......yes, you do need the V8. I did like the light nose/turn in of the Ecoboost though.
With high interest rates and killer inflation, the price of this model is very appealing. I haven’t found any other sports cars I love in this price range. The fuel economy is a nice plus. This might be my next car!
You think that until you start add on packages, like the fast back should already come with alot of things that their trying to sell as an add on.
@@MWAclanGamingThat’s what I noticed when I was building the car on the site. Goes up fast, and eventually becomes too expensive.
Of course the GT is better. But people need to stop acting like the low displacement engine didn’t always exist. Most of us don’t need a V8 to get up to highway speed. Over 300hp is enough.
I’m a Mustang GT owner. I’m not knocking the 4 popper, but for me it has to be the Coyote 5.0 V8. I’ll probably eventually purchase an S650, but that iPad dash 😬. Note, my S550 5.0 has the six speed and Performance Pack 1. I just returned from a 3,700 road trip through West Texas, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. Overall milage 28+ MPG! On the interstate with cruse control set at 70 MPH I get 32 - 33 MPH!!! Love my Mustang. Whatever blows your dress up - Happy motoring.
I've been driving an 08 v6 since I got my license 10 years ago and I'm finally getting a new car and decided to go with a mustang again. I'm so torn between the eco and GT because I drove both and was very impressed with both. Something I know no v8 enthusiast will agree with me on is they kind of felt the same. I think that's because I wasn't racing or anything just driving on the highway. I always thought I want nothing but a v8 when I upgrade but I really don't know if just the sound and rumble is worth the extra 10k+. I'm still trying to decide but it's just so difficult.
Nah I can honestly say this car is amazing. I traded in my 2014 GT for it and don’t regret it one bit! Power isn’t everything
I had a Mach 1 that I just sold for an ecoboost. Do I miss the power? A little. But do I miss the payment on the Mach 1 …fuck no
@@ajsculthorpe9881 the Ecoboost is extremely good on gas as well! I’ve been driving about a week without having to put gas
Now that the 2.3 doesn't come with a 6 speed, YES, you do really need the V8.
When it comes to V8 Id much rather get an 05-10 model. Im really digging the new 2.3
Agreed
The 3v? Why? Why not get a 18-21 V8?
3v way better@@tythegreatttg
Why
Lmao. Why. I could maybe see a GT500 from that era being desirable, but that’s it.
I was privately invited by Regent Motors (Singapore), the authorised dealer in Singapore for Ford to pre-order this very mustang meant to hit our shores in 2H 2024. Comes with the 2.3 Ecoboost, and the spec comes with Recaro seats, High Equipment Group 201A as standard. Good to have a 2nd mustang for a change as a more economical car.
I was invited because I had a S-197 II Phase 2 GT500 making 900hp in China when I was 16 10 years ago, and somehow the dealer caught wind of it because SVT specifically came down to tune it for me.
The V8 isn’t offered in SG because of the tight emissions regulations and an annual road tax of 5 thousand dollars. I had my fun with the Trinity S/C V8.
I wouldn’t mind getting an ecoboost again but the fact that it doesn’t come in manual i have to get the gt, i currently have a 2018 exoboost and i really want to fully enjoy a mustang with the v8 and manual since this one is probably the last one like this
I drove a ‘98 Mustang V6 for 17 years. Now I have a’22 5.0 GT. Hell yes, you need the GT. The looks of the ecoboost won’t satisfy long-term. I absolutely guarantee the time will come when every 4 cylinder owner will wish they got a GT.
Because of the way my ecoboost premium was optioned the msrp was $43k. The window sticker was $47k with markups and packages. I paid msrp. I could’ve got a base GT for the same price but I wanted the better gas mileage and more upgrades instead of the v8 and cloth seats with the slip screens. Think I made a good choice?
I just traded my eco for a GT, and it was the best decision. I love the 5.0 coyote!
How .much money you lose
I have a buddy who has a lightly modded ws6 trans am. Consistently hits 0-60 times of around 4.5 seconds. I have never ever gotten in that car and thought it was slow. Not even close. The car runs like a striped ape. So why the heck to people hate so hard on this. I say give respect where it's due. It's a 2.3L
terrific review from "Down Under" and likely to purchase one when they arrive
$31,000 base model is *Awesome* with an amazing 0-60 time
It's not 31, it's about 36,500 otd if you don't get Mark ups
@@Striker50_ they have 5 at my local dealer, one for $31k ,one $32k and three for $33k
Just get a S550 V8 with the same price. I just seen a 2019 one for 28k with 50k mils
Wonder why no one has reviewed a high performance ecoboost yet, at all, on the internet ever. really really weird... Good review :)
Cause it's not worth the money ,just get the v8 🐱
@@cormaro13 in some countries, i do not live in the US, 4cyl cars cost 500 a year to register and V8s cost $1200 a year just in registration. This is besides all the other additional costs.
So while i may get the GT, i think comparing a performance spec'd ecoboost where its handling is higlighted vs a GT with a much more powerful engine would be a good comparison to us non-US citizens.
Before watching im gonna answer yes and anyone who says otherwise hasnt felt the v8 version of their car.
I own an ecoboost and rented a 5.0 GT convertible mustang when I was in Vegas, car was fun and fast but I really don't need it, might buy an SN95 convertible GT sometime soon but you really don't need the GT, especially if you're like me and don't drive that fast to begin with
@@shm-62u30 fair point those 2vs have crazy potential and sound great.
I know you won't agree but I test drove both and I gotta say, they felt kind of the same. Now I know they wouldn't on a drag strip but I'm not really a racer, the most racing I do is hitting the gas at a light or flying up the on ramp. I think they felt the same because their 0-60 is pretty damn close and shooting up the on ramp foot down the only difference was sound but with that active exhaust on the eco i was pretty impressed with it.
@@sks220 I can see your point but you're smoking dope if you think they feel similar v8s are way more of a throw you back in your seat, I've owned a 2021 ecoboost, 2013 gt, and now a 2024 gt, totally different animals. That being said your opinion is yours and you're entitled to it.
@@driftcat7076 I agree they're different, I guess it's just how I drive it, I don't floor it whenever I get the chance or challenge other muscle cars to races. Don't get me wrong I want a 24 GT, I just don't know if it's in the budget, lord knows I'm trying though.
It's stylish, affordable fun transportation. For most buyers that's what they want
Yes, you need the V8. Is it a good car, yes. But every time you get in it and start it, you will be reminded of how you could have had the GT for only about $6,000 more.
and every time your in the gt your reminded your spending 6k more on gas 😆
@@emmanuel1163 I didn't buy a $50,000 car to save gas.
Yep! When around those with a V8 you will feel you have 1/2 a stang!
Cam phasers
Like, others said. Its not just $6k, its $6k+ gas. Which for those commuting is a lot. I mean the GT is already starting off $120/month more without taking into account gas and more importantly insurance. I guarantee its easily over $200/month. Making it easy to consider an ecoboost for many.
It's interesting some of the choices that Ford made with this...some of the stuff is almost contradictory. Specifically thinking the fact that they have a full on track-mode and valved exhaust...but give you no version of manually controlling it with paddle shifters or a manual mode on the shifter. A car with all the noise but no way to play with it behind the wheel is just confusing
Opting for the High Performance Package is a must. The paddle shifters alone is worth paying extra for
@@BostonAutoBlog didn't realize those were separate options - thanks for clarifying!!!
@BostonAutoBlog I would argue that a manual transmission is a must.
Its absence makes this an instant hard pass from me.
Are these the trunk subwoofers of the upgraded audio version ?
how come my 2024 eco boost not have exhaust mode. ??
bc you didnt get the optional package
I'm wanted to buy new Ford Mustang so bad.
It’s amazing man. You won’t regret it!
One of best new Ford Mustang I can afford.
You're WRONG. The Ecoboost Premium is almost exactly $10,000 cheaper than the GT Premium. The automatic is standard on the 'Boost so that makes it about $11,600 cheaper than a GT Premium automatic.
thank GOD YOU SCREAMED THE WORD WRONG! Wouldn't HAVE gotten YOUR point OTHERWISE!
I really wish they would make the back seat just a little bigger so it was usable with 4 adults for short trips. That's the only thing preventing me from buying one. There was more than enough room back in the day. Not sure when they switched both the mustang and camaro to basically two seaters.
I honestly think if Ford had a ecoboost mustang with a four door it would sell like crazy. I love all mustangs but I feel like the ecoboost would be a lot better of a daily with four doors. Especially since it’s overshadowed by the v8 model.
Why you want a whimpy shity Ford Mustang Grow some BALL drive a V8. If you want a UGLY 4 door get the Ford Mustang E-Boss
It's coming
What a great review I want one.
Exterior is gorgeous! Interior looks like a nissan sentra
Only comment I have regarding the in cabin sound - if Ford continued from the S550, some of that growl you experience is from the sound symposer, which pipes in artificial engine sounds through the speaker system. I own a 2018 ecoboost, and it has plenty of power with a modest tune and other inexpensive bolt ons.
The Camaro hasn’t gone away. It was reincarnated into the body of the new Mustang. The rear end really gives off modern Camaro vibes to me.
nothing beats a V8: the feel, the sound, the torque. I say get a base model V8--it has a lot of very good features. Plus the fuel economy is pretty decent, meaning that you won't be using that much more fuel than the EcoBoost model... Plus stick shift!!!
The price beat the v8
At least the front headlights nolonger look depressed since the previous model had the facelift, good job Ford
While the exterior of the new Mustang is passable (but certainly not inspiring, IMO), that dash with the huge screens does absolutely nothing for me. Really dislike that direction Ford took. Kudos to them for continuing with gas-powered Mustangs, however.
I would go so far as to call the interior hideous.
Vaguely unpleasant shapes, style lines that clash, and that ungainly screen perched atop it all.
Everything looks clunky and cheap.
@@tommc3622 The dash of the 2005 to 2014 is what a sports car dash should look like. The 2024 is a mishmash and looks like the designers could not agree on a unified design. Too many cooks in the soup.
EWWW! You like EV or a Plug In or a Hybri!
I thought it looked pretty dumb too but then I test drove one and they are actually pretty nice, I don't really want an older used model because of how it looked when I was driving tbh.
As a former Mustang owner - some things I really like some I don't about the latest generation. I'm pretty sure though I'd spend the extra for the GT or go all the way for the Dark Horse. If this would be your "only" car or primary car or used as a "daily" then I can see getting the 4 cylinder - if this is a "weekend" ride or you don't have a daily commute then I can see how this might be a great choice for a fun and practical ride.
I dont need a V8. This will be plenty for an evwryday experience 🔥 😊
Echoboost is a great daily driver but just like the 5.0 must be modded to really become a race car JMO
Very thorough. Thank you!
Often wondered how these would do if powered by either 2.7 or 3.5 Eco 6's!!!!
I had a GT. I’m getting the EcoBoost. Too much gas. I was always on E and at a gas station several times a week. Not hating at all but it’s time to cruise. I can’t even speed in my area anymore cuz of all the imports
It's funny how every new mustang the reviewer goes on about the track apps, meanwhile those same track apps have been available since 2015. It's nothing new at all. In fact every tech component of the car functions exactly the same since 2015. It's just wrapped different now with the new screens and haptic buttons.
I bought a eb vert non active exhaust. I think that option is not worth it....I like it, I had a gt convertible prior, it was nothing but problems.
You don’t think you need a V8 until you end up with one, then you realize the errors of your past choices lol
The sound of the eco boost is also terrible. Long live the coyote!
My late father used to have 1989 Ford Mustang GT it was a a hatchback NOT a coupe with a back wiper back then it was a racely wagn NOT SUV with 5 speed stick back then it cost $28,000 Cobra was $45,000
@@NorthernWind603I thought that until I took a ride in a gt and realized it’s a bit excessive with the noise. The power delivery I could get use too but even from the factory it tends to be quite loud for me. The noises are cool when other people drive it but it wouldn’t be a good daily for me the gas consumption would eat through my wallet
Not true
Understood. I’ve gone away from wanting a straight piped GT like I did when I was 18. Now, just a bolt on exhaust does the job for me. The newer models come with the new active exhaust which has a quiet mode tho if you opt for it. The gas consumption I can’t help you on. Smiles per gallon as the term goes Lol
Good Show, I Want One in Anti-Matter Blue.
I don't think they made that color but one year. Too dark almost looks black so why not get a black car - It looks better
@@fastguned It Remind Me of USMC Dress Blues, Semper-Fi.
No paddle shifters = grocery getter
If I'm going to own a mustang it's going to be for the driving experience. Part of that experience is the sound. So, I would argue that the V8 definitely sounds better. Honestly, the EcoBoost sounds like garbage. But, the 2024 V8 Mustang exhaust sounds like shit too in comparison to previous years V8 models. Ford ruined it.
Well you can actually find the Sync 4 system in the latest Version of the Focus ST Facelift in Europe but this is a bit more advanced already. Makes me wonder if I can actually Upgrade the Infotainment in my 2022 Focus ST once the Mustang is out
15.0mpg? Is that right?
These are 47k in this spec in Connecticut as of Feb 24 Not 35k .And that before taxes and dealer charges. MSRP doesn't mean a thing anymore.
34k in florida
My only complaint is them ditching the manual transmission on'em.
The V8 mustang in all its glory didn't even come with an option for more than 300 horsepower until 2007. So the 2024 EcoBoost has more horsepower than literally every factory mustang on the road before then. For 0-60 time, the GT is LESS THAN A SECOND (less than half a second in many of the road tests) faster than the EcoBoost.
I like it I would buy one.
Would anyone know what that rear spoiler is? I have been trying to find this exact one but can't locate it. Thanks in advance
That color on the Ecoboost looks good. How about a sunroof Ford? Not too 'Premium' without basics like that.
Nice
A small glimpse? As opposed to a BIG glimpse?
Good for a daily driver, for sure.
Do I really need it? Hell yes I do, I want a 5.0 V8 rumble when throttling it. 🥴
What about a GR86?
This is a better Review than that TH-cam Guy dressed in shorts who is always remarking about how many Twinkies and other Junk Food he can stuff in door pockets or center consoles. He thinks he is funny, but that dude is totally annoying.
If you want longevity, you DO NOT buy a turbocharged 4cyl. Besides, I don't care what the HP is, Mustangs are supposed to have a V8. The resale value will suck as well.
They messed up the rear and front grill
Love my ecoboost! Mainly got it to commute, I knew that GT was going to drink gas like a mf 😂
can anyone give me some advice here? So currently, I drive a 2014 Dodge Charger R/T Plus and it has just over 107k miles on it. I still owe a fair amount on the finance. Now to clear things up, I bought the car with high miles because my job was only a mile away. Unfortunately, I herniated 3 discs and had to basically leave my job. I currently doordash for a living (Im 20 and in college) and its a decent gig. I already put nearly 3500 miles on it in the past month and a half. Although I do have a power train warranty, do any of you think it might be worth selling the 2014 RT and getting into the 4 cyl mustang?? The fuel efficiency is crucial. I profit somehow with getting 14 mpg so I can not even imagine 22-30 mpg.
A lot of police cars are 5.7 Hemi Chargers. 107,000 miles shouldn't be a problem, especially with a power train warranty. . How much cash would you have to add to buy the Mustang? $10,000 will buy 2,857 gallons of gasoline at $3.50 a gallon. At 14MPG, that will take you 40,000 miles. If you spend an extra $10,000 to get into an Ecoboost and get 22MPG (you're not Door Dashing on the freeway and turbos usually get worse than estimated MPG in real life), you'll go an extra 8 miles on each gallon. The Charger burns 25 cents of gasoline to travel one mile at $3.50 / gallon, the Ecoobost burns 16 cents of gas to move one mile. You'll save 9 cents a mile in gasoline driving the Ecoboost. You would have to drive the Ecoboost 111,1111 miles to pay back the $10K it cost you to get into the Mustang. After that, you'd start saving on gasoline. Of course, I doubt you would only have to add ten grand to what you get for your charger. Do you have $10,000 laying around? If not, add the cost of a loan. Don't forget more expensive insurance for the new car. And, you'd be nuts too keep the Ecoboost for 111,1111 miles or more without a powertrain warranty, so add that. YOU'D HAVE TO BE CRAZY NOT KEEP THE CHARGER. Don't forget, it's a lot easier to get in and out of Charger. Hopefully you won't have any more back problems, but if you do you'll' sell the Mustang in a heartbeat and loose a bunch of money on it just to cap things off.
Buying a brand new car to save gas never makes sense.
@@jimjones-pz1tt hey thank you sm for the insight but sadly I’m selling it today. I’m just eating a little bit of the debt so that I can maybe get a newer one or get something a little bit better on gas until I’m able to really afford it comfortably. I really really appreciate your advice
@@Jawz_345 👍
Yes absolutely.
You can’t even shift manually without the High Performance Package, there is no manual transmission available, and the GT looks markedly different from the EcoBoost now unlike the last gen. Ford definitely is making a statement with these choices. They want to clearly separate the models so no one ever sees an EcoBoost and thinks it’s a GT
The average person can't even tell the difference between a charger and a challenger so the hood vents isn't going to change that
I want a v8 Ecoboost
Are the seats the upgrade leather or active x premium?
I just want an ecoboost with 6 speed manual.
I got nothing against 4 cylinder turbo cars, they can be fun, but having a MUSTANG, with a dyson sounding engine/exhaust it's a buzzkill, I don't care how good the car looks, having a Mustang it's all about the experience, and that 4 cylinder engine just kills the experience in my opinion.
Nah I have one at 17 it's good enough, I plan on getting a 5.o but rn the eco is perfect
99% of people only buy for looks and comfort, engine is pointless when speed limits are so low.
Way too expensive for a 4 cylinder mustang… Back in 2018 new GTs were being sold for 30K. V6 and ecoboosts were around 22K.
If you have money, just get a V8, much more fun.
Everything was more cheaper 2018. Houses, food, gas etc. its called inflation.
I just don't understand why 315 horsepower isn't enough for people. Do you go out to the track and race every day? Mustang is not a race car. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Yes I REALLY need the V8! 🤣
So I know that you won't be able to tune the new V8's without help from pre-established partners, but are the ecoboosts included in that as well? It'd be cool to be able to tune the new eco's but not the V8's right outta the box...would give the Eco something to brag about.
I’m a camaro guy… but this is ok. Just ok….
Love 'em both, but I get it. With this Ecoboost around $42K, you could be into a final year LT1 at 40K.
You can have a performance car with turbo 4, but you must have a MT option