Jeff glad you are on the road again. You inspired me to get mine. I have a 18 and I’m for a class action lawsuit if they don’t want to give a warranty behind these engines. But to answer your question I would Keep it. rated r cars went thru the same thing an he eventually got the extended warranty
My 2017 GT350R motor blew last November with 8200 miles, and Ford replaced the engine. I'm keeping it, but then I don't think I can find a comparable track toy that fits my budget. Hoping for the best re: the new engine. I have not pursued an extended warranty, but will be interested in your experience if you go that route. Good luck with your new motor and thanks for your content!
Steve Ross thanks Steve, glad to hear your replacement went smoothly as well. You nailed it though, this car when functional is an awesome track car for the price. Hard to beat I agree.
that's crazy that basically 4 years of this car is a potential ticking time bomb. call me old or poverty but if i was buying a 60k car i'm sure as fuck not modifying it out of warranty!!! that car is WAAYYYY overkill for most people. driver mod is the single most important thing people overlook these days.
IMO a tune SHOULD NOT void any warranty that the tune did not do any damage, in example, a rod bearing. That's a faulty part FROM FORD. I couldn't imagine the cost of a voodoo engine out of pocket. Im glad my 2013 gt is out of warranty, however my 2019 raptor has a cobb stage 1 tune and I'm debating on whether I should put it back to stock after so many people are having a hard time with warranty claims from Ford
Not that Chevy doesn’t have issues, but this is the reason I’m driving a 19 ZL1 1LE instead of a GT350R. Initially thought about the Focus RS till I heard those were popping motors too.
ZL1 1LE is still the most badass of the pony cars. I have yet to see the GT500 beat it on a road course (maybe it will on a longer track). I am a chevy guy, so this next comment might seem biased, but I am not trying to be. I don't think GM cars are perfect, they have issues and make mistakes. But most of the GM stuff is either small little things, or many people might have a big issue but not everyone. Ford on the other hand may have less small issues, but when Ford has issues, they are apocalyptic. Like, if you have the car that has the issues, you WILL have it happen to you. Case in point, 6.0 diesel, powershift dual clutch trans, Focus RS, 5.4 3V issues etc. I do like the new mustang, GT350 is a cool car, but there has been way to many videos like this one and it would scare me away. Also Ford has been pretty bad about trying to get out of their responsibility when making a mistake.
@@f1hotrod527 Even the c8 corvette is faster than the Gt500 and has less hp! But the comaro is not a pony ford made that category. However that LT4 is a great engine.
I would have kept the stock engine to have it rebuilt at some point. Normally you just have to pay the core charge. Then i could still have a numbers matching car.
Actually most are fine it’s a small percentage of them that have issues if you look on the Shelby forums there is a in-depth write up on failures, It’s like 1%.
@@Prochargedbeast ehh if I'm thinking of the same write up, it wasn't very scientific lol. The guy who did it certainly did his best in that write up, but at the end of the day it was just him searching the internet for people who had failures. It wasn't actual data from Ford or anything like that. Only info that he was able to find. And I'm sure not everyone who has issues mentions it on the internet
rhino5oh over 1000 plus miles and many hard runs on my boosted 2017 still purring like a kitten lol. I have friends at 2 ford locations here in Florida and only 1 failure between the two and it was Jeff’s, I personally have 5 friends with boosted and non boosted 350’s and zero issues.
2010 Camaro ss2 6.2, 60,000 miles, long tube hookers, Borla stainless Loud mouth exhaust, bbk intake, ecm updates, updated vented rotors, couple other mods and I’m telling you it’s a great setup. Can’t keep my hands off this car and fun to drive.
That's a damn shame! I remember over a year ago when tunnel chaser traded his demon for a GT350R and started running into mechanical issues I thought maybe he just got a lemon! But you go on the forums and you can see a lot of people having issues with engines and Ford looking for any reason to not honor the warranty!😥
Long comment ahead Aug 1st I purchased a used 2017 350 with 20k miles and had the engine blow the next day because the dealership didn’t tighten the oil filter properly. Had to lawyer up to get a new engine. Got the car back at the end of October and had it for 3 weeks when the 2nd motor blew up on me after only 1300 miles. Had it towed to Ford for them to fly out a tech to check out the motor and he confirmed that it was indeed a part failure... on a brand NEW crate motor with 1300 miles. I just picked up my car today and am now on my 3rd motor. My plan? To keep the vehicle until the new Mach 1 drops for the 2021 model year then I’m trading her in with a quickness. Sounds like you got the Gen 2 motor in yours, Jeff and thats freaking awesome! I’m beyond jealous. For you I’d say hang onto it and see how it plays out for you in terms of reliability but I can definitely understand you losing confidence in the car. I’m in the same boat! You have 8400 miles on your car. You still have your factory 3yr/36k warranty. I’d spring for the extended warranty as you come close to exhausting the 1st one. I’ve been subbed for awhile and love your 350 videos! Keep us posted on the car!
the old school term (BREAK IN) cracks me up... Seat the rings, get er hot a couple times, change the oil & go race! Any motor machined properly doesn't require (break in).. Look up NELSON RACING ENGINES, His 260cid LS t turbo made hundreds or thousands of dyno pulls (1000+hp) .. No 5000 mile break in, LOL! then a ((5 minute continuous)) pull at full power @7000+ rpm 1,200HP.. Look at the bearings in that video.... Babbitt bearings don't (break in). Old "flat tappet cams" break in, rings seat... Rod & main bearings die from poor machine work, oiling issues or component deformation ... Designed on a computer , machined by robots? A human found & fixed the design flaw, not a computer....
Get a Stinger--these things--in the street tire division were running mid 12s to high 12s cause they could not put the power down. I left Ford because ALL 3 I had --had issues.And Ford battles folks on the warranty.
Glad to see Ford did the right thing by you Jeff. All comes down to weighing the pleasure from owning an incredible performer against the concern for another failure combined with the likelihood your asset is depreciating way faster than the GT350’s we’re supposed to. I was crushed when I let go of my perfect ‘16 Track Pack 350. I was getting closer to end of warranty period and witnessing the reality that it wasn’t an easy sell - clearly the perception of the car due to longevity concerns has taken a toll on the values. I bailed on what was supposed to be my never gonna sell it dream car. Sucks because it truly was the most unique and fun car I’ve ever driven. Maybe the ‘19 motor is better ... personally I wouldn’t bet on that. Good luck with your decision.
Gen1 Coyotes had problems with cylinder #8 as well. I'd only consider the extended warranty if I was going to keep the car. After hearing about the problems with the Voodoo engine, I would probably get a GT PPL2 or Bullitt instead of a Shelby.
Right at the beginning you stated they looked to see if it was tuned. Tuning voids the engine warranty! I just had a dealer try to sell me an 18 they claimed was certified pre owned. Opened the hood and saw the JLT intake. Tuner was in the trunk. Salesman tried to tell me the car would have a warranty even after I called Ford corporate and was told the car was NOT certified and COULD NOT be certified. On the other side, Ford is a business and they're not going to pay big $$$ for one of these engines if they don't have to
Not hating, but I'm guessing there's a 70% chance you're selling the GT350 in the next year. I've noticed all your IG content centers around the M2 Comp and I can't help but wonder if a little of the honeymoon is over after the 350 engine failure. To me, the replacement engine wouldn't be a negative UNLESS you no longer trust the car. Honestly, I'm not sure I trust my 2018 Coyote without question as well.
saleen367 that’s why I posed the question, I’m legitimately torn. I want to get it past the 1,000 mile break in and hit the track with it before I decide. It’s probably in the 50/50 range honestly, but an extended warranty could change that too.
@@JeffAshton I completely get where you're coming from. On one hand I absolutely love my PP2 and on the other hand, I want no part of fighting for warranty claims. I bought my car for the same reasons ... a few track days per year with new car reliability. Extended warranties only relieve you of the expense, not the headache. Best wishes going forward.
This is the best case scenerio for that. Id love a gt350 but id be worried about the problems, buuuut i cant say jack since i have a 17 RS sooo yea. Id keep it till it was outta warranty, then see how it is, then decide whether ya want to keep it.
My son just had his engine in his 2017 GT350 replaced by Ford. two weeks ago. The car is occasionally driven, never tracked, and had scouring on the #5 and #7 cylinder walls, along with low compression. He was burning apx. 4 quarts of oil every 1000 miles. After the necessary diagnosis and back and forth with the dealer, who actually made the process as painless as possible, his engine was replaced. He's now going through the 500-1000 mile break-in period.
If it were me I would push for the extended warranty. Seeing how you got yours warrantied and WomanDriven didn’t, and keep the car. It’s beautiful and as far as I know you bought it to keep! Have that extended warranty on Ford’s dime and enjoy your one of a kind car!!
This is the exact reason i didn’t buy one Ford doesn’t stand behind known issues and look for ways to weasel their way out of responsibility. Glad you got your situation taken care of. f**k yeah push for the extended warranty !
Except - they stood behind the warranty and replaced the entire motor with no argument with the customer - which is directly contrary to your statements.
Billy Burgess agreed if the car is modified. Zero of these engines should be blowing in a non modified car and they are I think thats the point more then anything.
I plan on getting an extended warranty on my 2017. I think it is luck of the draw with these. Only 3% have had issues apparently but the ones that do get a lot of attention. So it seems to the public these engines have issues when in fact it’s about the same % as the other mustangs and other manufacturers. I eat about 1 qt of oil every 1000 mikes and pushing 9k on the odometer now. Which in this engine I find acceptable for the type of driving I do. At the track attack event we asked them. How many motors they have replaced, only one and 2 clutches (which I was surprised only 2 lol) the cars never had license plates on them and live at the track. The car I drove had 11k miles on it of pure track abuse. I drove that car harder than I have ever driven mine haha. The instructors literally told us to drive them as hard as we could and to try and break them. After that day I had more confidence in my 350 to hold up.
Hey did you notice a difference in the sound coming from the exhaust between the '17 motor and the new '19 motor? I heard the new Gen 2 motors sound a bit more "refined". I bought a 2019 GT350 myself a few days ago and loving every second of it!
Yes my 2019 replacement motor will not burble and crack when you ease off the gas at high rpm ... It was a characteristic I loved but the 2019 won't do it .. So the sound is less desirable to me
When I did heavy line for Ford back in the day, our motto as technicians was “ Ford quality is job assurance.” They knew they had serious engine problems and instead of fixing the problem , they lowered their warranty from 6/60 down to 5/50 Because most of the failures occurred after the 5/50 and before the 6/60
It's bullshit when ford won't honor the warranty for an engine they built. Paying over 70k for a car and they do everything they can to find a way not to give you a new engine. I would definitely fight for extended warranty. Sad to see a Shelby with so many engine problems.
I just had Engine Failure on my 2019 Mustang GT last month. The Tech called me and said it’s under warranty don’t know if it’s Factory or Powertrain but it’s been 4-5 weeks now. Tech kept talking about the holidays and blah blah blah but that’s quite a dealership to get it done in 12 days. That’s a sweet ride.
I am anal about my paint too. Did you do a PPF? If so, what areas did you cover? I have a 2020R that unfortunately is sitting in the garage until spring (Michigan). Besides the front clip, I am worried about the piano black on the trunk, and the appearing to be swirl prone pain on the spoiler.
Hey man,, I thought you fell off the earth.. I also have a 2017 gt350,, I bought it last year with 480 miles on it!! White with Blue stripes.. at about 2900 miles I noticed a rattling at between 2100 and 2400 rpms,, brought it to dealer,, they tested it and said it was a normal senerio with some of the shelbys.. dosent affect performance they say... have you heard of something like that on 350’s?? I figured you would be the best guy to ask.. cool to see your back brother!!
All I am seeing on TH-cam is there Mustang. GT 350 with blown motors. What's the deal????? Ford knows of this issues and supposedly corrected it with the 2019 models.. I can't remember the girls name on TH-cam she has a Mustangs GT350 and she blew her motor and Ford denied coverage because she changed out the air filter with an after market air filter...
I pushed hard for the extended warranty and they finally gave it to me. You should do the same. It'll help with resale value. I had the same. My dealer washed my car and there are swirls all over it. You can ask them to have it detailed and buffed out. My dealer agreed to it.
I would definitely push for extra warranty time! Nice that they did what they should have. I think i would push for at least an extra year to make up for the time you lost with the car!
Here's my take on this, I was a Service Manager at a Dealership and you can be happy for the new engine or pissed that it blew up and now it's not a numbers matching car. If you are a collector of car's then you could be pissed. However Ford isn't obligated to do anything above replacing the failed part, and even tho you got a new engine Ford is only obligated to warrant the new engine for the original warranty period. So if you did get Ford to extend the warranty period then you are ahead, if you bought the car for a collectors collection then you could fight Ford to buy the car back but, if they did do that and not fight you you would be lucky. It takes a lot of time and luck for that to happen. Ican only speak for myself" I would be happy with the new motor, and be happier that I can enjoy my GT-350.
This happened to my 2017, the replaced it with a 2020 gt350R engine. Ford doesnt match a number to the car like the old days. Also, extended warranty 7 years 100k miles took me less than 20mins to get
I think the 2019 engine should be better based on the changes Ford made. If I recall the block has been recast with a better cooling jacket (better passages for the heads as well), stronger exhaust valves springs, new head gaskets, I-beam connecting rods to strengthen the bottom end. I don't believe Ford has confirmed any of this but this info was gathered from a couple of the aftermarket tuners. Most of this came from the GT500 engine program. A large flat plane crank motor like this is a little unusual, most are smaller displacements because of the increased vibration you get with a flat plane crank. I don't think I would have any issue buying a 2019, but I would definitely not buy anything older. As for an extended warranty I would push for it, doesn't hurt to ask.
I would keep it. I have an 18 gt350 with 1100 miles so far. Absolutely love the car. Its my 8th mustang. I’m thinking of the extended warranty myself. Im also thinking of taking my current motor and having it built while the block and the heads are still good.
If you modify factory tune,you're out.Smart move on your part.When I got my '04 Terminator new,I paid for the Max Warranty.I believe it was $1800.By 60,000mi I got my money's worth.T-56 locked up($2200),oil cooler leak(replaced),ABS Module($1150).Planned on keeping mine forever.Sell it now,if you decide to keep it ,get the Max warranty.I think they still have two extendeds,one for engine & drivetrain,the other covers a whole bunch of other stuff.
In 2009 i bought a new GT-500.It had four tsb's on the clutch and mine went out.They used ceramic/metallic material which wouldn't hold up,no matter how you drove it.My dealer was excellent on the repair and didn't cost me anything for the repair.Some dealers were jerks about it and wouldn't repair it for free and that was a $3000.00 fix.Next years model they went back to organic material,it didn't grab well but lasted longer. Then there was the hood corrosion issues(aluminum),that Ford knew about,for over ten years.Mine did it twice.Once in warranty the other one out of warranty.I had to fight with Ford because they didn't want to cover it.The best i could get was I pay a third,Dealer pay a third and Ford paid a third(dealer shouldn't have to pay anything).The body man at the dealership was honest(i've known him for years) said we can repair it but it won't stay that way.At that point i would do anything to get rid of the car and wound up trading it for a used 2008 Corvette that had 6600 miles on it,in mint condition and i still have it today and not looking back. I might add that when my Dad passed away,he left me a 2009 Ford Taurus which has had a few issues but has been a much better car than the GT-500 was.
At 2:00 you came up. I was actually wondering that when you first mentioned that Ford put in a whole new motor. I was thinking well it’s probably better that that old motor blew out because with the gen 2 motor you can have a lot more confidence and reassurance that that problem will not occur again.
Id push for the extended warranty. In 2018 I wanted to get another Mustang and was set on getting an 03 / 04 Terminator but the more I learned about the GT350's the more I wanted one until I saw the engine issues they were having and still have even though it is a lot less. So now I'm back to getting a Terminator instead and in the end I'm sure I'd be more happy with in the long run.
@@cartmanbrah8937 i ended up getting a Terminator and had it for 3 years, modded it a lot and made 700 to the wheels with it . But then got rid of it once its age and issues started being a problem. When it got to the point of needing the valve seals done I got rid of it. It’s an old and aging platform and an expensive car to fix things on. Got a GT350 after that and while it was awesome in a lot of ways it didn’t have any down low power and was really numb below 4,000 rpm’s. If I had the option to get either one back right now I would pass it up.
Thanks for sharing your story...Sucks that this had to happen..i hope you Keep the car..It's such a fun car to drive..What would you get if you sold it?
Keep it if you like the car. I have a 2019 gt350 love it. I new that the gt350 has had some faiures but I didn't know it was to the extent your talking. Sounds like for stood behind their product. Good luck with it and enjoy.
I had a '17 with an engine failure, ended up buying a ZL1 but still miss the GT350. Maybe I'll consider a '19 or '20 some day if they prove to hold up. I'd say you could easily get an extended warranty through Ford if you wanted and keep enjoying it with the peace of mind of an extended warranty.
Shane Tormey that’s a tough one. They’re both bad ass in their own way. The ZL1 is so much more car, feels more solidly built and definitely more bang for your buck. The GT350 delivers a more emotional experience. It sounds so amazing, the engine never lets you forget you’re in a special car. One of each would be ideal!
Keep the car. Dont worry about numbers matching blah blah, no one cares about that unless in 20 years you will find one with 500 miles on it.. Call ford customer service for extended warranty, you dont ask, you dont get, try see what happens. This car is worth more i think, just because it has 2019 motor in it! I own 2017 gt350, i do have seccond 2018 motor in it. So far so good. Lots of track days on it. Great car, i love every inch of it despite of its small flaws!!! Great video!
Why would you allow a motor replacement. Once you had them admit fault you had them. The value of that car just dramatically decreased. You should’ve gotten a buy back and replaced the vehicle through ford for a 19/20. No one whose buying a Shelby is buying that knowing it’s not original engine. A GT350 is worth like $48k from 17 pre owned with low mileage. That car is probably worth $38k now. So you might not care but the next guy will. And even more ironic a ford dealerships trade value would even be lower on that. The fact that the plate doesn’t even say the real builder of the engine alone degrades the value of that vehicle immensely. Personally I would remove the plate. It’s basically lying keeping it there.
I think having the reinforced block, new ring packs, and variable valve timing improvements to the gym to is a big plus. I still own a 2016 I purchased brand new. I don’t have any significant oil consumption or problems at all. Feeling pretty lucky. I don’t believe it’s a ticking time bomb I believe it has more to do with how it went together. I’m guessing my engine went together nicely.
The earlier voodoo motors were originally put together by 2 techs. And they later switched to 1 to make sure that it was all done correctly and nothing was skipped over
Push for the extended warranty Jeff. I know you are here in the Central Florida area. What dealer did you take the car to for the engine warranty work?
Just blew my 2017 gt 350s motor yesterday. Was going back to Ford on and off for oil consumption issues. Mileage is 12,900. Check engine light came on flashing when I was driving it at higher speeds and then went off and then came back in and started knocking really loud, now she’s dead in the water sitting at the Ford dealership. Bought her used last summer with 1300 miles on her. I did in fact purchase a very expensive warranty just incase some of this BS happened. I read a forum where a guy is on his 3rd motor! This is my 3rd mustang and I’m a die hard stang guy but if this one keeps giving me issues I’m switching over to the Camaro ZL1.
I have a 2016 350 with 9,000 miles. Got the extended Ford warranty as I intend to keep it. The warranty is transferable so it adds value to the car if you do sell it. You have the best of both worlds, a low mileage 350 and a new upgraded engine. Get the extended warranty. You stated that there have been many problems with the 350 engine. Do you have any numbers regarding engine failures?
Same thing happened to mine! A 2016 GT350 with the Tech Pack. They also replaced the entire engine for me as well, not just the short block. How did you verify that the new crate engine is the 2019 Gen 2 version of the Voodoo?
I haven't heard of 2019 or 2020 failures but it's hard to get this information. Do you know for sure of failures in Voodoo 2 engine? I would keep the car and push for an extended warranty. Several folks on TH-cam have gotten a new motor and either a bumper to bumper or extended power train warranty.
@@JeffAshton Thanks. I found the following article that is one of the better "studies" on the internet. overrunautomotive.com/articles/gt350-engine-failure-by-the-numbers/
Ford did a bunch of testing on this motor. The problem is look up any of the people’s channels and really quickly you can see these cars are driving like no other cars in history for a off the shelf auto
working in parts at a ford dealership i would highly recommend you get the extended warranty on this. the 5.0's, the 350's and 500's come through all the time if its a 14-17.
I got a 2020 gt350 with 450 miles no problems so far lol. One thing I believe is these motors are not meant to rev up to 8250. My old 01 svt cobra had a redline of 7k and that's what I think these cars should redline at
Jeff, not certain how it has gone with the new engine, but I have a 2018 and blew the engine, got a 2019 GT350R Gen2 engine replacement and now that engine blew up......also cylinder #8....I think the engines are fine as long as you do not track it. There is a reason why Ferrari, McLaren and others do NOT exceed 4.9 L flat plane crank engines.
I have a 16 GT350 with 35K miles, I use this car as a daily driver and had no problem with it. I love it and have never had so much fun with a car, but I have never used it on a racetrack, I want to take care of it. I noticed on TH-cam that most of the replaced motors were used on track, in my opinion the durability is greatly reduced, especially with a motor that high revs like the Voodoo. On digital marktplaces are many 350s with more than 20K and clean carfax. The website thesoundofvoodoo.com/ also confirms that it's not that bad. Why this shitstorm against Ford?
Its just a 6 got a dud as well. He took to the dealer and they said all was well, ended up dead hole just like woman driven. Cylinder 8 is a common denominator. Honestly i dont think they have the plasma down pat yet.
Thanks for the video! Glad Ford resolved your issue. I would push for the extended warranty and then decide sell or keep her. With extended warranty it'll be easier to sell. On the other note. I was considering to purchase BMW M2 Competition or M4. But went with 2019 GT350 due to great deal I've got on GT350 and how this car handles. Would be awesome if you can make a video comparison between M2 Competition and GT350?
Hey Jeff, I have a 17, I bought it with 460 miles on it,, at 1500 miles I had at 2100-2400 rpms a rattle,, my dealership checked it, and said it was a normal sound to some engines in the Shelbys,, it not effecting performance IMO, but that’s all I have dealt with with mine... it’s wierd but I don’t know.. i have never tracked it or even redlined it since break in,,, let me know your thoughts.. thanks
I LOVE these GT350s... test drove one before I got my Type R (but it didn't really count as a test drive, the sales person didn't even let me wind the car out and I didn't even get to take any corners so I couldn't really experience it). Was looking at used GT350s but now I am afraid. It is a shame because this is the coolest American car to come out since the Dodge VIper ACR, I like the GT350s even more than the new C8s... it is just a master class in performance, fast loud and savage. I'm sad that these motors are having issues, I still think these are incredible cars, I just don't know the root cause of the engine failures. One thing I would look into is a maybe a dry sump oiling system, but that will surely void a warranty. I am very surprised that Ford did not include a dry sump in this car, a car that revs this high and can pull such high G's should have one by default.
...and it is VERY difficult to talk lightly about this issue / topic... because it is FAR to often. There is you, woman.driver, tunnel/chaser, and another TH-camr with engine failures... That is BRUTAL. Esp since there is maybe 3 or 4 other YT channels with prominent GT350(R) driving / mileage cars. Love the car (for the same reasons you and everyone else does) but damn - I feel I am really really casting the dice. I did almost buy a 2019 PP2 though, I sometimes wonder if that would have been the better way to go (and mod it later)... Gen3 though I hear also have problems. Case in point is my friends 2018 GT Gen3 blew up... it was (after a fight to get) replaced under warranty. It IS suspected though (and only suspected - no direct evidence), that the deal didn't re-top the oil during a routine oil change...
I bought a 2019 few off the showroom floor) last July. It is currently sitting on a lift for a seized engine (3268) miles. The Gen2 motors are not holding up either...
john dillinger they found out that one was fucked when he bought it, the mechanic that was breaking all his shit was also fucking his girlfriend and is gone now so things are coming back together a little now lol
I wanted a GT350. I just couldn't do it. Too many people I know personally and have seen with blown engines. Several were not tuned and several were low miles with very non aggressive driving. I dont think ford should be expected to warranty a engine that has been tuned. I do think they should stand up more because they do fight to warranty anything about these cars for some reason. Few that were blown were not tuned low miles and blew and the dealers were fighting every step of the way. I just dont know how they get away with THAT.
Make them give ya the warranty. All I drive is ford and I would probably sell it because you don't really know its fixed. Plus will the dealership be so nice next time? Keep your head up glad they fixed it for ya. I would say be careful but that takes all the fun out of it.
Great advice. Do *not* tune your 2015-2018 GT350 because these motors are breaking left and right. Spun rod bearings, broken valve springs, etc. It's pretty bad, according to my friend who tunes Mustangs every day. Ford is doing everything that they can to deny that they've screwed up, so if you have changed anything, they'll blame it on your changes and wash their hands of it.
Keep it and enjoy it. That is why you purchased it in the 1st place. Since this is your second GT350, you must really like it. Therefore, consider the extended warranty and keep driving it and have fun.
None matching numbers definitely hurts the resale value long term but it all depends on what are your long term plans with the car. I would sell and get all the money out of it now. Being it’s only 8k mileage car. Beautiful car either way. Good luck. 👍
I think you can buy a ford premium warranty for a full 8 years or 100,000 miles for around $5,000. To me that adds value and peace of mind to the car. Your car would be pretty much covered until 2025.
I have been seriously looking at buying one of these cars but all I see it issue after issue with them. Having just sold a C7 Z06 I’m on the fence now.
How are some of these failing while essentially stock .....meanwhile everyone else is slapping a whipple, VMP or procharging them....🤔 and doggin the piss outta em
Finally an update, sorry for the delay guys! What would you do if it was your car? Keep it, sell it, fight for an extended warranty?
Jeff Ashton I would keep it man. It’s a beautiful car with amazing performance AND with a brand new motor
Keep the car Jeff it’s an awesome vehicle I love driving mine every day brings a smile to my face and now that it’s boosted it’s even better!!
Jeff glad you are on the road again. You inspired me to get mine. I have a 18 and I’m for a class action lawsuit if they don’t want to give a warranty behind these engines. But to answer your question I would Keep it. rated r cars went thru the same thing an he eventually got the extended warranty
My 2017 GT350R motor blew last November with 8200 miles, and Ford replaced the engine. I'm keeping it, but then I don't think I can find a comparable track toy that fits my budget. Hoping for the best re: the new engine. I have not pursued an extended warranty, but will be interested in your experience if you go that route. Good luck with your new motor and thanks for your content!
Steve Ross thanks Steve, glad to hear your replacement went smoothly as well. You nailed it though, this car when functional is an awesome track car for the price. Hard to beat I agree.
that's crazy that basically 4 years of this car is a potential ticking time bomb. call me old or poverty but if i was buying a 60k car i'm sure as fuck not modifying it out of warranty!!! that car is WAAYYYY overkill for most people. driver mod is the single most important thing people overlook these days.
At .49 seconds I meant to say rod bearing material since I know someone will correct me in the comments. ;)
IMO a tune SHOULD NOT void any warranty that the tune did not do any damage, in example, a rod bearing. That's a faulty part FROM FORD. I couldn't imagine the cost of a voodoo engine out of pocket. Im glad my 2013 gt is out of warranty, however my 2019 raptor has a cobb stage 1 tune and I'm debating on whether I should put it back to stock after so many people are having a hard time with warranty claims from Ford
Not that Chevy doesn’t have issues, but this is the reason I’m driving a 19 ZL1 1LE instead of a GT350R.
Initially thought about the Focus RS till I heard those were popping motors too.
Damn the RS popping motors too!? Those little fuckers are fun to drive! A little too expensive but fun!
I love the looks of GT350r, and the seats...and exhaust tone...every single other way I like ZLE more. That LT4 engine is bullet proof. Good choice.
ZL1 1LE is still the most badass of the pony cars. I have yet to see the GT500 beat it on a road course (maybe it will on a longer track). I am a chevy guy, so this next comment might seem biased, but I am not trying to be. I don't think GM cars are perfect, they have issues and make mistakes. But most of the GM stuff is either small little things, or many people might have a big issue but not everyone. Ford on the other hand may have less small issues, but when Ford has issues, they are apocalyptic. Like, if you have the car that has the issues, you WILL have it happen to you. Case in point, 6.0 diesel, powershift dual clutch trans, Focus RS, 5.4 3V issues etc. I do like the new mustang, GT350 is a cool car, but there has been way to many videos like this one and it would scare me away. Also Ford has been pretty bad about trying to get out of their responsibility when making a mistake.
@@f1hotrod527 Even the c8 corvette is faster than the Gt500 and has less hp! But the comaro is not a pony ford made that category. However that LT4 is a great engine.
yeah not a chevy driver but you gotta feel good as chevy gets better(much) and Ford has gone wayyyy downhill
I would have kept the stock engine to have it rebuilt at some point. Normally you just have to pay the core charge. Then i could still have a numbers matching car.
I think ford would want that core back to see why it failed.......
They already know why it failed
I have worked for a dealership for many years. 99% of the time if you pay the core charge you can keep your core.
My 2017 350 is boosted and still going strong!! Never had any oil consumption issues so I got a good one I guess.
Prochargedbeast48 great to hear man, good to hear some are holding up well!
Actually most are fine it’s a small percentage of them that have issues if you look on the Shelby forums there is a in-depth write up on failures, It’s like 1%.
@@Prochargedbeast ehh if I'm thinking of the same write up, it wasn't very scientific lol. The guy who did it certainly did his best in that write up, but at the end of the day it was just him searching the internet for people who had failures. It wasn't actual data from Ford or anything like that. Only info that he was able to find. And I'm sure not everyone who has issues mentions it on the internet
rhino5oh over 1000 plus miles and many hard runs on my boosted 2017 still purring like a kitten lol. I have friends at 2 ford locations here in Florida and only 1 failure between the two and it was Jeff’s, I personally have 5 friends with boosted and non boosted 350’s and zero issues.
@@rhino5ohh .0
2010 Camaro ss2 6.2, 60,000 miles, long tube hookers, Borla stainless Loud mouth exhaust, bbk intake, ecm updates, updated vented rotors, couple other mods and I’m telling you it’s a great setup. Can’t keep my hands off this car and fun to drive.
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That's a damn shame! I remember over a year ago when tunnel chaser traded his demon for a GT350R and started running into mechanical issues I thought maybe he just got a lemon! But you go on the forums and you can see a lot of people having issues with engines and Ford looking for any reason to not honor the warranty!😥
Trades a demon??? For a gt350??? Who does that?
I'd understand trading a demon for a gt500 but a 350???? Bro what 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@jrodzilla24 Someone who wants a car that actually handles...
Long comment ahead
Aug 1st I purchased a used 2017 350 with 20k miles and had the engine blow the next day because the dealership didn’t tighten the oil filter properly. Had to lawyer up to get a new engine.
Got the car back at the end of October and had it for 3 weeks when the 2nd motor blew up on me after only 1300 miles. Had it towed to Ford for them to fly out a tech to check out the motor and he confirmed that it was indeed a part failure... on a brand NEW crate motor with 1300 miles.
I just picked up my car today and am now on my 3rd motor. My plan? To keep the vehicle until the new Mach 1 drops for the 2021 model year then I’m trading her in with a quickness.
Sounds like you got the Gen 2 motor in yours, Jeff and thats freaking awesome! I’m beyond jealous. For you I’d say hang onto it and see how it plays out for you in terms of reliability but I can definitely understand you losing confidence in the car. I’m in the same boat!
You have 8400 miles on your car. You still have your factory 3yr/36k warranty. I’d spring for the extended warranty as you come close to exhausting the 1st one.
I’ve been subbed for awhile and love your 350 videos! Keep us posted on the car!
Damn... sorry to hear about the issues man. I’m 50/50 right now, maybe when I get it back on the track it will change my mind. 😁
the old school term (BREAK IN) cracks me up... Seat the rings, get er hot a couple times, change the oil & go race! Any motor machined properly doesn't require (break in).. Look up NELSON RACING ENGINES, His 260cid LS t turbo made hundreds or thousands of dyno pulls (1000+hp) .. No 5000 mile break in, LOL! then a ((5 minute continuous)) pull at full power @7000+ rpm 1,200HP.. Look at the bearings in that video.... Babbitt bearings don't (break in). Old "flat tappet cams" break in, rings seat... Rod & main bearings die from poor machine work, oiling issues or component deformation ...
Designed on a computer , machined by robots? A human found & fixed the design flaw, not a computer....
That's crazy you got the '19 motor. Hope there aren't anymore issues!
I would push for the extended warranty!!!
Here! here!
It’s worth the time to try and get it for sure
Most definitely
Really good information. I was contemplating on getting a 16 gt350,with 17,000 miles on it for 41k. Badass car,but I'm not feeling the headaches.
Get a Stinger--these things--in the street tire division were running mid 12s to high 12s cause they could not put the power down. I left Ford because ALL 3 I had --had issues.And Ford battles folks on the warranty.
Glad to see Ford did the right thing by you Jeff. All comes down to weighing the pleasure from owning an incredible performer against the concern for another failure combined with the likelihood your asset is depreciating way faster than the GT350’s we’re supposed to. I was crushed when I let go of my perfect ‘16 Track Pack 350. I was getting closer to end of warranty period and witnessing the reality that it wasn’t an easy sell - clearly the perception of the car due to longevity concerns has taken a toll on the values. I bailed on what was supposed to be my never gonna sell it dream car. Sucks because it truly was the most unique and fun car I’ve ever driven. Maybe the ‘19 motor is better ... personally I wouldn’t bet on that. Good luck with your decision.
Gen1 Coyotes had problems with cylinder #8 as well. I'd only consider the extended warranty if I was going to keep the car. After hearing about the problems with the Voodoo engine, I would probably get a GT PPL2 or Bullitt instead of a Shelby.
Right at the beginning you stated they looked to see if it was tuned. Tuning voids the engine warranty! I just had a dealer try to sell me an 18 they claimed was certified pre owned. Opened the hood and saw the JLT intake. Tuner was in the trunk. Salesman tried to tell me the car would have a warranty even after I called Ford corporate and was told the car was NOT certified and COULD NOT be certified.
On the other side, Ford is a business and they're not going to pay big $$$ for one of these engines if they don't have to
Not hating, but I'm guessing there's a 70% chance you're selling the GT350 in the next year. I've noticed all your IG content centers around the M2 Comp and I can't help but wonder if a little of the honeymoon is over after the 350 engine failure. To me, the replacement engine wouldn't be a negative UNLESS you no longer trust the car. Honestly, I'm not sure I trust my 2018 Coyote without question as well.
saleen367 that’s why I posed the question, I’m legitimately torn. I want to get it past the 1,000 mile break in and hit the track with it before I decide. It’s probably in the 50/50 range honestly, but an extended warranty could change that too.
@@JeffAshton I completely get where you're coming from. On one hand I absolutely love my PP2 and on the other hand, I want no part of fighting for warranty claims. I bought my car for the same reasons ... a few track days per year with new car reliability. Extended warranties only relieve you of the expense, not the headache. Best wishes going forward.
This is the best case scenerio for that. Id love a gt350 but id be worried about the problems, buuuut i cant say jack since i have a 17 RS sooo yea. Id keep it till it was outta warranty, then see how it is, then decide whether ya want to keep it.
My son just had his engine in his 2017 GT350 replaced by Ford. two weeks ago. The car is occasionally driven, never tracked, and had scouring on the #5 and #7 cylinder walls, along with low compression. He was burning apx. 4 quarts of oil every 1000 miles. After the necessary diagnosis and back and forth with the dealer, who actually made the process as painless as possible, his engine was replaced. He's now going through the 500-1000 mile break-in period.
If it were me I would push for the extended warranty. Seeing how you got yours warrantied and WomanDriven didn’t, and keep the car. It’s beautiful and as far as I know you bought it to keep! Have that extended warranty on Ford’s dime and enjoy your one of a kind car!!
This is the exact reason i didn’t buy one Ford doesn’t stand behind known issues and look for ways to weasel their way out of responsibility. Glad you got your situation taken care of. f**k yeah push for the extended warranty !
You buy a car with a warranty that is void once modified. Why would Ford not cover themselves?
Except - they stood behind the warranty and replaced the entire motor with no argument with the customer - which is directly contrary to your statements.
But they did, so invalid complaint
Billy Burgess agreed if the car is modified. Zero of these engines should be blowing in a non modified car and they are I think thats the point more then anything.
Damn! keeping my fingers crossed that my 18 doesn't TAKE A SHITTER!!! Keep these videos coming!!! RESPECT!!!
Hows it been?
I plan on getting an extended warranty on my 2017. I think it is luck of the draw with these. Only 3% have had issues apparently but the ones that do get a lot of attention. So it seems to the public these engines have issues when in fact it’s about the same % as the other mustangs and other manufacturers. I eat about 1 qt of oil every 1000 mikes and pushing 9k on the odometer now. Which in this engine I find acceptable for the type of driving I do.
At the track attack event we asked them. How many motors they have replaced, only one and 2 clutches (which I was surprised only 2 lol) the cars never had license plates on them and live at the track. The car I drove had 11k miles on it of pure track abuse. I drove that car harder than I have ever driven mine haha. The instructors literally told us to drive them as hard as we could and to try and break them. After that day I had more confidence in my 350 to hold up.
Hey did you notice a difference in the sound coming from the exhaust between the '17 motor and the new '19 motor? I heard the new Gen 2 motors sound a bit more "refined". I bought a 2019 GT350 myself a few days ago and loving every second of it!
Yes my 2019 replacement motor will not burble and crack when you ease off the gas at high rpm ... It was a characteristic I loved but the 2019 won't do it .. So the sound is less desirable to me
@@justinjacobs5777 Interesting. I think it still sounds pretty amazing though. Hope you still enjoy, even with the new motor.
When I did heavy line for Ford back in the day, our motto as technicians was “ Ford quality is job assurance.”
They knew they had serious engine problems and instead of fixing the problem , they lowered their warranty from 6/60 down to 5/50 Because most of the failures occurred after the 5/50 and before the 6/60
It's bullshit when ford won't honor the warranty for an engine they built. Paying over 70k for a car and they do everything they can to find a way not to give you a new engine. I would definitely fight for extended warranty. Sad to see a Shelby with so many engine problems.
Jef ,i have a question ,im thinking of buying a gt350 ,i see a lot of issues lets get reall put my money in it or don't do it ??? Let mi now
you're back yassss
wish you would upload more frequently I love your channel
The6SpeedLife thanks man, I appreciate the support. I’m going to try and get back to some more regular content. :)
Glad you got the car back bro! I’d probably opt for the extended warranty, it’s a beautiful car. Happy new year!!
I just had Engine Failure on my 2019 Mustang GT last month. The Tech called me and said it’s under warranty don’t know if it’s Factory or Powertrain but it’s been 4-5 weeks now. Tech kept talking about the holidays and blah blah blah but that’s quite a dealership to get it done in 12 days. That’s a sweet ride.
I am anal about my paint too. Did you do a PPF? If so, what areas did you cover? I have a 2020R that unfortunately is sitting in the garage until spring (Michigan). Besides the front clip, I am worried about the piano black on the trunk, and the appearing to be swirl prone pain on the spoiler.
Joshua Burkard I did PPF on the front only.
Hey man,, I thought you fell off the earth.. I also have a 2017 gt350,, I bought it last year with 480 miles on it!! White with Blue stripes.. at about 2900 miles I noticed a rattling at between 2100 and 2400 rpms,, brought it to dealer,, they tested it and said it was a normal senerio with some of the shelbys.. dosent affect performance they say... have you heard of something like that on 350’s?? I figured you would be the best guy to ask.. cool to see your back brother!!
Mustang Scott76 hmm... not sure without hearing it. I definitely have never had any rattling sound.
I have a 2017 and it has done it since I’ve had it.
All I am seeing on TH-cam is there Mustang. GT 350 with blown motors. What's the deal????? Ford knows of this issues and supposedly corrected it with the 2019 models..
I can't remember the girls name on TH-cam she has a Mustangs GT350 and she blew her motor and Ford denied coverage because she changed out the air filter with an after market air filter...
Gen 2 Voodoo now time for Twin Turbos!
Mustang Lifestyle tell him Andrew
I pushed hard for the extended warranty and they finally gave it to me. You should do the same. It'll help with resale value. I had the same. My dealer washed my car and there are swirls all over it. You can ask them to have it detailed and buffed out. My dealer agreed to it.
Glad I'm seeing these videos on the GT 350 engine failures. Almost bought a used one last year.
I would definitely push for extra warranty time! Nice that they did what they should have. I think i would push for at least an extra year to make up for the time you lost with the car!
Here's my take on this, I was a Service Manager at a Dealership and you can be happy for the new engine or pissed that it blew up and now it's not a numbers matching car. If you are a collector of car's then you could be pissed. However Ford isn't obligated to do anything above replacing the failed part, and even tho you got a new engine Ford is only obligated to warrant the new engine for the original warranty period. So if you did get Ford to extend the warranty period then you are ahead, if you bought the car for a collectors collection then you could fight Ford to buy the car back but, if they did do that and not fight you you would be lucky. It takes a lot of time and luck for that to happen. Ican only speak for myself" I would be happy with the new motor, and be happier that I can enjoy my GT-350.
This happened to my 2017, the replaced it with a 2020 gt350R engine. Ford doesnt match a number to the car like the old days. Also, extended warranty 7 years 100k miles took me less than 20mins to get
Actually they do, if you run the Vin#. But it won't be important until 30 or so years from now.
I think the 2019 engine should be better based on the changes Ford made. If I recall the block has been recast with a better cooling jacket (better passages for the heads as well), stronger exhaust valves springs, new head gaskets, I-beam connecting rods to strengthen the bottom end. I don't believe Ford has confirmed any of this but this info was gathered from a couple of the aftermarket tuners. Most of this came from the GT500 engine program. A large flat plane crank motor like this is a little unusual, most are smaller displacements because of the increased vibration you get with a flat plane crank. I don't think I would have any issue buying a 2019, but I would definitely not buy anything older. As for an extended warranty I would push for it, doesn't hurt to ask.
I would keep it. I have an 18 gt350 with 1100 miles so far. Absolutely love the car. Its my 8th mustang. I’m thinking of the extended warranty myself. Im also thinking of taking my current motor and having it built while the block and the heads are still good.
If you modify factory tune,you're out.Smart move on your part.When I got my '04 Terminator new,I paid for the Max Warranty.I believe it was $1800.By 60,000mi I got my money's worth.T-56 locked up($2200),oil cooler leak(replaced),ABS Module($1150).Planned on keeping mine forever.Sell it now,if you decide to keep it ,get the Max warranty.I think they still have two extendeds,one for engine & drivetrain,the other covers a whole bunch of other stuff.
so you need a warranty to drive a Ford??
It's not just Ford. Nearly all these modern cars have issues, it's disgusting.
I couldn’t live with a car that I would fear to modify. Personally.
You have to keep checking on your oil levels at all times
teggsrb18c1 all cars are the same
@@jamesmedina2062 No some engines can take a lot of abuse and some only break from owner negligence.
@@jamesmedina2062 lol sure sure.
d1sturb3d surprise surprise...every car on the planet can be modified
In 2009 i bought a new GT-500.It had four tsb's on the clutch and mine went out.They used ceramic/metallic material which wouldn't hold up,no matter how you drove it.My dealer was excellent on the repair and didn't cost me anything for the repair.Some dealers were jerks about it and wouldn't repair it for free and that was a $3000.00 fix.Next years model they went back to organic material,it didn't grab well but lasted longer.
Then there was the hood corrosion issues(aluminum),that Ford knew about,for over ten years.Mine did it twice.Once in warranty the other one out of warranty.I had to fight with Ford because they didn't want to cover it.The best i could get was I pay a third,Dealer pay a third and Ford paid a third(dealer shouldn't have to pay anything).The body man at the dealership was honest(i've known him for years) said we can repair it but it won't stay that way.At that point i would do anything to get rid of the car and wound up trading it for a used 2008 Corvette that had 6600 miles on it,in mint condition and i still have it today and not looking back.
I might add that when my Dad passed away,he left me a 2009 Ford Taurus which has had a few issues but has been a much better car than the GT-500 was.
At 2:00 you came up. I was actually wondering that when you first mentioned that Ford put in a whole new motor. I was thinking well it’s probably better that that old motor blew out because with the gen 2 motor you can have a lot more confidence and reassurance that that problem will not occur again.
I have a 17’. Keep it you have the better motor.... wish i had a 19 motor... absolutely push for the extended warranty. Good luck
Id push for the extended warranty. In 2018 I wanted to get another Mustang and was set on getting an 03 / 04 Terminator but the more I learned about the GT350's the more I wanted one until I saw the engine issues they were having and still have even though it is a lot less. So now I'm back to getting a Terminator instead and in the end I'm sure I'd be more happy with in the long run.
I'm currently in the same boat
@@cartmanbrah8937 i ended up getting a Terminator and had it for 3 years, modded it a lot and made 700 to the wheels with it . But then got rid of it once its age and issues started being a problem. When it got to the point of needing the valve seals done I got rid of it. It’s an old and aging platform and an expensive car to fix things on.
Got a GT350 after that and while it was awesome in a lot of ways it didn’t have any down low power and was really numb below 4,000 rpm’s. If I had the option to get either one back right now I would pass it up.
This is why I will not tune my 2018. I would absolutely get the extended warranty. Hope you don't have any more issues.
Thanks for sharing your story...Sucks that this had to happen..i hope you Keep the car..It's such a fun car to drive..What would you get if you sold it?
Realistically in the $43-46,000 range.
Keep it if you like the car. I have a 2019 gt350 love it. I new that the gt350 has had some faiures but I didn't know it was to the extent your talking. Sounds like for stood behind their product. Good luck with it and enjoy.
I had a '17 with an engine failure, ended up buying a ZL1 but still miss the GT350. Maybe I'll consider a '19 or '20 some day if they prove to hold up. I'd say you could easily get an extended warranty through Ford if you wanted and keep enjoying it with the peace of mind of an extended warranty.
After owning both, which do u like better?
Shane Tormey that’s a tough one. They’re both bad ass in their own way. The ZL1 is so much more car, feels more solidly built and definitely more bang for your buck. The GT350 delivers a more emotional experience. It sounds so amazing, the engine never lets you forget you’re in a special car. One of each would be ideal!
Ultimately the ZL1 is the better car
Keep the car. Dont worry about numbers matching blah blah, no one cares about that unless in 20 years you will find one with 500 miles on it..
Call ford customer service for extended warranty, you dont ask, you dont get, try see what happens.
This car is worth more i think, just because it has 2019 motor in it!
I own 2017 gt350, i do have seccond 2018 motor in it. So far so good. Lots of track days on it. Great car, i love every inch of it despite of its small flaws!!! Great video!
push the numbers matching issue to leverage longer warranty
I did this and got it done
Why would you allow a motor replacement. Once you had them admit fault you had them. The value of that car just dramatically decreased. You should’ve gotten a buy back and replaced the vehicle through ford for a 19/20. No one whose buying a Shelby is buying that knowing it’s not original engine. A GT350 is worth like $48k from 17 pre owned with low mileage. That car is probably worth $38k now. So you might not care but the next guy will. And even more ironic a ford dealerships trade value would even be lower on that. The fact that the plate doesn’t even say the real builder of the engine alone degrades the value of that vehicle immensely. Personally I would remove the plate. It’s basically lying keeping it there.
I think having the reinforced block, new ring packs, and variable valve timing improvements to the gym to is a big plus.
I still own a 2016 I purchased brand new. I don’t have any significant oil consumption or problems at all. Feeling pretty lucky. I don’t believe it’s a ticking time bomb I believe it has more to do with how it went together. I’m guessing my engine went together nicely.
The earlier voodoo motors were originally put together by 2 techs. And they later switched to 1 to make sure that it was all done correctly and nothing was skipped over
Push for the extended warranty Jeff. I know you are here in the Central Florida area. What dealer did you take the car to for the engine warranty work?
Over build the motor and keep it around a stock ish power level but just drive the shit out of it
Just blew my 2017 gt 350s motor yesterday. Was going back to Ford on and off for oil consumption issues. Mileage is 12,900. Check engine light came on flashing when I was driving it at higher speeds and then went off and then came back in and started knocking really loud, now she’s dead in the water sitting at the Ford dealership. Bought her used last summer with 1300 miles on her. I did in fact purchase a very expensive warranty just incase some of this BS happened. I read a forum where a guy is on his 3rd motor! This is my 3rd mustang and I’m a die hard stang guy but if this one keeps giving me issues I’m switching over to the Camaro ZL1.
I have a 2016 350 with 9,000 miles. Got the extended Ford warranty as I intend to keep it. The warranty is transferable so it adds value to the car if you do sell it. You have the best of both worlds, a low mileage 350 and a new upgraded engine. Get the extended warranty. You stated that there have been many problems with the 350 engine. Do you have any numbers regarding engine failures?
Same thing happened to mine! A 2016 GT350 with the Tech Pack. They also replaced the entire engine for me as well, not just the short block.
How did you verify that the new crate engine is the 2019 Gen 2 version of the Voodoo?
I haven't heard of 2019 or 2020 failures but it's hard to get this information. Do you know for sure of failures in Voodoo 2 engine? I would keep the car and push for an extended warranty. Several folks on TH-cam have gotten a new motor and either a bumper to bumper or extended power train warranty.
Thebombshizzle there are some documented failures on 2019 and 2020s on Mustang6G.com
@@JeffAshton Thanks. I found the following article that is one of the better "studies" on the internet. overrunautomotive.com/articles/gt350-engine-failure-by-the-numbers/
im in the same situation, however, motors are on backorder. Ive decided to sell mine after the engine replacement.
Ford did a bunch of testing on this motor. The problem is look up any of the people’s channels and really quickly you can see these cars are driving like no other cars in history for a off the shelf auto
I am going to be full out pissed if my 2020 GT350R engine blows... (picking up in May...) - Good luck bro.
You must be crazy. You know those engines are reverse engineered garbage...right?
working in parts at a ford dealership i would highly recommend you get the extended warranty on this. the 5.0's, the 350's and 500's come through all the time if its a 14-17.
I got a 2020 gt350 with 450 miles no problems so far lol. One thing I believe is these motors are not meant to rev up to 8250. My old 01 svt cobra had a redline of 7k and that's what I think these cars should redline at
If I remember correctly she had a tune on her's and thats why she was denied.
yea i seen her video it was tuned. she put her stock parts back on and tried to get claim.
Jeff, not certain how it has gone with the new engine, but I have a 2018 and blew the engine, got a 2019 GT350R Gen2 engine replacement and now that engine blew up......also cylinder #8....I think the engines are fine as long as you do not track it. There is a reason why Ferrari, McLaren and others do NOT exceed 4.9 L flat plane crank engines.
I have a 16 GT350 with 35K miles, I use this car as a daily driver and had no problem with it. I love it and have never had so much fun with a car, but I have never used it on a racetrack, I want to take care of it. I noticed on TH-cam that most of the replaced motors were used on track, in my opinion the durability is greatly reduced, especially with a motor that high revs like the Voodoo. On digital marktplaces are many 350s with more than 20K and clean carfax. The website thesoundofvoodoo.com/ also confirms that it's not that bad. Why this shitstorm against Ford?
Its just a 6 got a dud as well. He took to the dealer and they said all was well, ended up dead hole just like woman driven. Cylinder 8 is a common denominator. Honestly i dont think they have the plasma down pat yet.
Thanks for the video! Glad Ford resolved your issue. I would push for the extended warranty and then decide sell or keep her. With extended warranty it'll be easier to sell. On the other note. I was considering to purchase BMW M2 Competition or M4. But went with 2019 GT350 due to great deal I've got on GT350 and how this car handles. Would be awesome if you can make a video comparison between M2 Competition and GT350?
Hey Jeff, I have a 17, I bought it with 460 miles on it,, at 1500 miles I had at 2100-2400 rpms a rattle,, my dealership checked it, and said it was a normal sound to some engines in the Shelbys,, it not effecting performance IMO, but that’s all I have dealt with with mine... it’s wierd but I don’t know.. i have never tracked it or even redlined it since break in,,, let me know your thoughts.. thanks
Let both go for the new GT500. You’d love it! Good luck fella.
I LOVE these GT350s... test drove one before I got my Type R (but it didn't really count as a test drive, the sales person didn't even let me wind the car out and I didn't even get to take any corners so I couldn't really experience it). Was looking at used GT350s but now I am afraid. It is a shame because this is the coolest American car to come out since the Dodge VIper ACR, I like the GT350s even more than the new C8s... it is just a master class in performance, fast loud and savage. I'm sad that these motors are having issues, I still think these are incredible cars, I just don't know the root cause of the engine failures. One thing I would look into is a maybe a dry sump oiling system, but that will surely void a warranty. I am very surprised that Ford did not include a dry sump in this car, a car that revs this high and can pull such high G's should have one by default.
So big end bearings u/s. Are Ford offering any reason behind B.E.B failures? Most obvious is lack of lubrication ?
...and it is VERY difficult to talk lightly about this issue / topic... because it is FAR to often. There is you, woman.driver, tunnel/chaser, and another TH-camr with engine failures... That is BRUTAL. Esp since there is maybe 3 or 4 other YT channels with prominent GT350(R) driving / mileage cars. Love the car (for the same reasons you and everyone else does) but damn - I feel I am really really casting the dice.
I did almost buy a 2019 PP2 though, I sometimes wonder if that would have been the better way to go (and mod it later)... Gen3 though I hear also have problems. Case in point is my friends 2018 GT Gen3 blew up... it was (after a fight to get) replaced under warranty. It IS suspected though (and only suspected - no direct evidence), that the deal didn't re-top the oil during a routine oil change...
Keep it , it was warrantied. Why are these failures happening ? Too thin of oil ? Multiple engine builders or just one or a few ?
I bought a 2019 few off the showroom floor) last July. It is currently sitting on a lift for a seized engine (3268) miles. The Gen2 motors are not holding up either...
Seems like this is an issue with this engine.. “Itsjusta6’s” gt350 did the same thing.
that idiot screws every car up he gets.
that's why i unsubbed from that doorknob's channel.
john dillinger agreed. It’s cool that he can afford all that nice and fun shit but they ruin everything
its an extremely common issue on cylinder 8 for these mustangs 14-17 5.0s and 350s and 500s
john dillinger they found out that one was fucked when he bought it, the mechanic that was breaking all his shit was also fucking his girlfriend and is gone now so things are coming back together a little now lol
eckocrazy361 14-17’ gt500 eehhh!? 🤣
I wanted a GT350. I just couldn't do it. Too many people I know personally and have seen with blown engines. Several were not tuned and several were low miles with very non aggressive driving. I dont think ford should be expected to warranty a engine that has been tuned. I do think they should stand up more because they do fight to warranty anything about these cars for some reason. Few that were blown were not tuned low miles and blew and the dealers were fighting every step of the way. I just dont know how they get away with THAT.
Make them give ya the warranty. All I drive is ford and I would probably sell it because you don't really know its fixed. Plus will the dealership be so nice next time? Keep your head up glad they fixed it for ya. I would say be careful but that takes all the fun out of it.
I have a 2018 and you convinced me to get the extended warranty. Thanks.
I want to get one and I was thinking 2019; you just confirmed that. Thanks for sharing
is that full flow aftermarket air filter the culprit for the damage engine? those filters allow a lot of dirt pass to the engine
Shit everywhere I go on TH-cam these things are blowing up or breaking
Yeah royalty exotics just got issues with his gt 500 and it's a 2020
Can't do it! But I want one so bad! Way to many problems
@@ashishpatel350 that's got to be a record failure even for Ford...
Straight up garbage!
It's making him money with youtube views so I'm sure it's not an entirely bad deal for him
Had a 2016 and sold it. Was just looking at these again (2017-2018) to pick up as a fun weekend car. This gives me serious pause.
Hey Jeff happy New Year. Enjoy your beautiful GT350 and new motor. Enjoy
Great advice. Do *not* tune your 2015-2018 GT350 because these motors are breaking left and right. Spun rod bearings, broken valve springs, etc. It's pretty bad, according to my friend who tunes Mustangs every day. Ford is doing everything that they can to deny that they've screwed up, so if you have changed anything, they'll blame it on your changes and wash their hands of it.
Keep it and push for a extended warranty.
you have the two perfect "drivers car"! M2 and gt350, love it! if you had to choose one, what would it be and why? beautiful collection
Sorry to hear about your situation. I would keep the car, get the extended warranty, and call it a day.
Get rid of it. I would get a trinity 5.8
Keep it and enjoy it. That is why you purchased it in the 1st place. Since this is your second GT350, you must really like it. Therefore, consider the extended warranty and keep driving it and have fun.
Damn thing shouldn't have failed period! Hope you got an extended warranty. Do you still have it?
None matching numbers definitely hurts the resale value long term but it all depends on what are your long term plans with the car. I would sell and get all the money out of it now. Being it’s only 8k mileage car. Beautiful car either way. Good luck. 👍
I think you can buy a ford premium warranty for a full 8 years or 100,000 miles for around $5,000. To me that adds value and peace of mind to the car. Your car would be pretty much covered until 2025.
I have been seriously looking at buying one of these cars but all I see it issue after issue with them. Having just sold a C7 Z06 I’m on the fence now.
How are some of these failing while essentially stock .....meanwhile everyone else is slapping a whipple, VMP or procharging them....🤔 and doggin the piss outta em
My guess is those guys got the money to reinforce everything with all new parts to ensure stability. I would do that personally, screw stock...