The issue though is that she opened with a false claim but presented it as fact. She was telling,not asking. I dint think she wanted clarification, she just wanted to grandstand......as was displayed when she smirked about having the definition on her phone......kind if like she was celebrating before she won,which she didnt.
Actually, her first statement is incorrect. There are not 5.6 million intersex people in the US. This number is based on an inflated number of disorders that are not truly intersex (I.e. where chromosomes and phenotype don’t match). The real number is closer to 60,000.
Correct. And even then, intersex isn't a 3rd category - its a term people came up with to describe a specific condition that results from chromosomal disorders. Those 60,000 might have a lot going on under the hood, but they're all either male or female.
@@Houlgravely I agree utlimately they are either male or female and it is necessary for them to go into one of these two categories to function in society. Having said that, it can be complicated to determine the sex of some of these individuals and I hope that in trying to stop the child abuse instituted by the transgender advocates through state laws governing gender affirming care for minors, that these folks aren't harmed. It sounds like the Tennessee law was properly written, and hopefully can be a template for other states.
@@RS-tz2zn people with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
Excuse me but Kleinfelters syndrome (XXY) and Turner’s syndrome (XXX) are both intersex conditions in which the male and female genitalia respectively is completely there. Unlike what this student claims. The issue with these two conditions is sterility, not ‘I don’t know what I am’. The two people I know who have these conditions would be the first to tell you they are very firmly grounded in their identity consistent with their anatomy. Moreover, medical intervention such as hormone therapy in these cases is to correct a medical deficiency that prevents the body working as it should. This is entirely different from mutilating or altering a healthy body functioning normally according to its chromosomes. Intersex people should not be used as a weapon for the trans movement.
Intresting is, that when i Research them, you get the answer that Klinefelter can only have man and Turner only woman. Which Supports directly the Argument there are only two genders.
People born with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
No, those are not intersex conditions. Any time there is a Y chromosome, it is a male. Any time there are only X chromosomes and no Y, it is only females. Kleinfelter's is only in males, and Turner's is only in females. Turner's syndrome is only ONE X chromosome, not three. XXX is Trisomy X Syndrome.
@@iceeironyyou guys are all confused on simple stuff. I’ll break it down so you understand, Woman = male who identifies as a woman Ciswoman = female who identifies as a woman. Its very simple, we need to show compassion and understand that trans people have high suicide rates compared to woman so they should be shows compassion, woman will be fine. We should refer to transwoman as woman and ciswoman as not woman but ciswoman from now on, this helps everyone.
Honestly, I appreciate her respectful and calm approach. We've seen so much of the opposite. Real mature adults don't have to swear or flail around when they disagree.
@@jaimeosbourn3616 You're right!! Matt was definitely a polite gentleman who patiently and thoughtfully let the questioner respond to everything he said, and not a mansplaining full-of-himself blowhard. Good thing us conservatives are so smart that we can figure that out!
People born with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
Apparently there are parents who don’t do that surgery and let the child get older and observe which gender seems to be more present throughout puberty. The intersex argument being considered as a third gender is delusional. Intersex people then prove the existence of male and female, thus making it only 2 and no other. It is sad to me that people blame the parents for making the wrong decision for their child. How are those parents going to know besides doing a closer examination of their child and look at which characteristics are more present. It’s hilarious to me that the delusional woke leftists want to include intersex in the argument, on top of not being able to define a woman in which can clearly be defined because then transgender people who transition would have it be meaningless then. There are definitely limitations when transitioning and it sucks that there are transgender people who want to continually not recognize their gender they are born as and know they will never be the opposite gender, in which again, that proves 2 genders only.
The US Census questions are written by the Secretary of Commerce who is not a geneticist, so not an expert in intersex classifaction or one to be quoted as if they are an expert in genetics.
and she was also making point argument...I get tired of the leftist who constantly go for the smear & character assaination which is almost all the time
Am I mistaken that the statistic she starts off with and she defines as having "incorrect chromosomes", is off by a factor of 100? She uses the figure of 5.6 million intersex individuals, which is about 1.6% of the population, when the actual figure of _genetically_ intersex individuals is estimated to be 0.018% or only about 59 thousand individuals on Earth, not in any one country.
You're right. There was some activist 'sexologist' named Anne fausto sterling who tried to inflate the number by including people with any mild sexual abnormality. My son was born with hypospadias, a relatively common condition for boys, meaning his urethra was not fully formed. He would be included in that 1.6% statistic.
1:32 "Currently Intersex issues we find online which is currently typically like infertility, erectile dysfunction for men..." If people with fertility issues and erectile dysfunction are also classified as intersex, then no wonder Intersex population is far more than expected.
Incorrect chromosomes in the “process of being born.” That caveat has to make the number even smaller. I mean babies being born whose chromosomes get messed up…that is almost nonexistent
I have never met a hermaphrodite, have you? It's so rare, there's no way it's over .05 percent of a given population. Let's worry about men and women and our children and building our population.
@@darthsilversith667 I think that most parents that have a hermaphrodite child, do their best to pick one sex for that child and hope for the best. In my my opinion only those people should get to pick what sex they identify as. If you are born with a penis and testicals you are a male. If you are born with a vagina and a uterus and mamory glands you are a female and there's nothing either sex can do to change that. If I dress up as a goat, does that make me a goat... Absolutely not
And just so that people understand this: Intersex doesn't mean that they're a third sex, or 'inbetween' sexes, just that something went wrong during development, and it may be hard for them to identify with the sex they're meant to be, but every body, is always either male or female, and it's not just gametes and chromosomes that separate the sexes from one another. It goes even deeper than that. Anyone who says different, is either lying, deIusi0nal, or wrong.
@@sherlockhomo-ph4suWho cares what gender they are? First of all, this person does not exist, so to speculate is dumb, second, even if this person did exist it's called an aNoMaLy. You don't base rules of society based on one or even a few individuals. Do I really need to explain why? I seriously think you're lying. Matt would have destroyed you worse than I just did.
Matt isn't a doctor. An intersex person such as this would most likely be considered male as their skeletal structure and hormones would reflect that, as well as certain parts of their reproductive system regardless of whether they have a penis or not. It's an interesting question but wholly irrelevant to what matt walsh argues. Exceptions don't prove anything, hence you also did not stop anything.@@sherlockhomo-ph4su
Not only was the young lady respectful, she researched what she was saying and brought the actual definition with her because she didn't want to make a fool of herself. She presented her case well. Matt of course rebutted her well also. We need more conversations like this.
@@ChuckU.Farley543 So if the same explanations/answers/rebuttal came from a woman speaker that would make it ok to you? Do you see how poor your argument is? Do you want to challenge the argument? Challenge the message NOT the messenger.
Matt never talked against intersex people. In fact he is sympathetic towards their situation. I think she's trying to manipulate the narration by conflating intersex and transgender.
These people need psychological help not placated, stop being part of problem and become the solution by being honest and getting them help, Matt keep up the good fight‼️
Matt's correct regarding the inflation of intersex individuals. National Institutes of Health (NIH) addresses this, stating, "the true prevalence of intersex is [actually] seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%" (or 5.6 million)
(I saw the whole lecture... that said) You're correnct - and SHE was IT. She was, however, polite, respectful, and listened to Matt's complete responses.
Here’s the thing with the type of guys like Matt Walsh. We don’t know how he would respond especially since how he usually is 🤷 so at least he isn’t duh mode like no that doesn’t exist duhh
They always start out with confidence, thinking they have the argument to defeat Matt. It's fun to see the panic in their faces as he calmly dismantles their argument. Keep them coming, very funny.
I checked this statistic a couple years ago. Estimate .5% percent of population is truely intersex. More than I would have imagined, but still not a large minority. And, Matt is entirely correct, although they may have "the equipment", they are unable to produce eggs & sperm, only one. So, the default would be to that gender.
There are no "intersex" individuals. There are males (humans with at least one Y chromosome in every cell) and females (humans with x chromosomes in every cell and without even a Y chromosome).
@@qwertyuqwertyu7481 The term used to be Hermaphrodite & I know one. Fifth child. Parents asked Dr. what they should do. Dr. told them to raise child as they saw fit. Since they already had 4 boys, they raised as a boy. Has a uterus, but does not menstruate. So, yes, male. But until puberty sets in, they really didn't know witch way biology was going to go. Just saying. I agree with only 2 genders, or did you miss my point?
Those are clearly inflated statistics, probably to pander to trans-activist pressure. There's no way that 5 out of 100 people walking down the sidewalk has both make and female sex organs. Common sense tells me that. For example, I don't need to be a veterinarian to know what a dog looks like. I think the statistic would be probably closer to 1 in 100,000, if that.
Nice to see this exchange. Matt was very respectful. She is a university student who did her research. She should not be faulted because she had never heard Matt's truthful argument about why the number 5,000,000 is flawed. She listened and appeared to be willing to consider his argument.
@@saltburner2 I heard a woman say that without the proper drugs, her child would be forced to go through the wrong puberty! Child abuse plain and simple!
No one's against anyone going to see a doctor. Just don't play Frankenstein with kids. And if you wanna take on such extreme measures as an adult, do that on your own dime. Don't make insurance companies raise premiums on the rest of us.
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Conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female, occur in 0.018% of the population, not 1.7% as has been estimated by some “experts”.
Glad to see she was mature enough to have a civil dialogue. Many from her camp would just start yelling "trans lives matter" as soon as Matt started talking.
for some reason matt seemed a little on edge but he handled that very well. He should have initially led that intersex isn't a third gender but well done, nonetheless, on both parties. 👏
yeah that statistic is a lie. there is an Evolutional Biologist named Colin Wright who wrote an article called Intersex is Not as Common as Red Hair and others have wrote similar things.
Her definition of 'intersex' is incorrect; a common issue. The most frequent Xy chromosome anomalies are XXy , Xo and XXX. These people are NOT 'intersex'. They are visibly either male; XXy, or female Xo and XXX. Until recently their chromosomal anomaly would have gone undetected. Externally they appear to be physically either male or female and in previous years would have been described as such at birth. True 'intersex' is someone with AIS. They are genetically male Xy but their external appearance is female. This is a rare but well documented situation. They have no reproductive capacity. I wish people would learn and understand the difference. The misinformation that is being propagated is damaging. As a final point, I have searched in vain for any legitimate study that shows that people with chromosomal anomalies are MORE likely to request gender affirming medical intervention than those with normal chromosomes. If anyone has any details of any legitimate study that shows otherwise, I would very much like to read it.
Thank you for doing a lot of research on this topic. But in my opinion, the case of intersex people is just used by gendrer ideology activists to confuse the minds of people who believe in biology. They don't want us to say "male and female" supposedly to be inclusive with intersex people, but in that case why continuing to say "humans have 5 senses" if there are blind, or deaf people? Their interest in Intersex is not logic , but for manipulation proposal.
An interesting case is Lady Colin Campbell (b. 1949) who at birth had genitalia which confused doctors; She was a rare case of someone who was 'assigned' male, and raised as a boy but was actually female. ['Colin' is the name of her former husband.] See Wikipedia for details.
Well I think we need to create new laws for society based on this one individual, as long as it supports the goals that tech billionaires put into my head 🤡👍
Intersex conditions are rare. However , there are intersex conditions they will develop primarily as male or female E.G XX male 80% will develop fully as male. Their XX chromosomes are not true female chromosomes due to having the SRY male gene translocated on the X chromosomes resulting in them developing as male. Swyer Syndrome XY will develop primarily as female their XY chromosomes are not true male chromosomes due to a missing SRY male gene or SRY mutated male gene resulting in them primarily developing as female having a vagina and uterus but underdeveloped and non functioning gonads (ovaries/testes)
@@mystic22g4 Lady C was born with deformed/undeveloped female genitalia, much later corrected surgically. Doctors advised her parents to raise her as a boy, which they did - but it was a mistake. Even after the correction, she remained infertile, but she is happy as a woman - she was never happy as a boy.
@@ethandollarhide7943 People who identify as gender fluid or non-binary exist, but the non binary identity is completely BS. Just because these non-binary people exist doesn't mean their identity is valid.
Would bet lunch that her definition of intersex is the Sterling definition which includes LOCAH… which is not an irregular combination of sex genes. There are only two haploid gametes.
And currently, even that use is being thought thru with more caution due to the risks of extremely harmful side effects which stem from their intended use.
We are meant to be debating on an agreed upon premise. Any specific religion is not agreed upon as a basis, so you are merely trying to use an argument by authority.
This young woman is incorrect having an extra chromosome such as XXY Klinefelter's syndrome is not an intersex condition trans activist claim it is but it's not. Intersex is defined as a discrepancy between internal gonads (ovaries/testes) and external genitalia. XXY fully develop as males they may have a smaller penis, low testosterone level, low sperm count but they do not have ambiguous genitalia some can even father children. There are also intersex condition in which that person will develop primarily as female or male. XX male 80% will develop fully as male, Their XX do hot represent true female chromosomes because the SRY male gene becomes translocated on the X chromosomes resulting in them developing as male. Swyer syndrome XY will develop primarily as female such as having a vagina and uterus but no functioning ovaries or uterus are assigned female at birth and is usually not recognized until puberty due to not having a menstrual cycle. Androgene Sensitivity Syndrome XY are genetic males because they are resistance to the male hormone androgen they have the physical traits of a female such as vagina. There are 2 types of AIS and people with partial AIS may have both male and female physical characteristics. Many have partial closing of the outer vagina, an enlarged clitoris, and a short vagina.
Idk why this is so hard to understand for some people lol. Having a genetic discrepancy makes it harder to identify your sex, but it does not put you on some weird spectrum
@@orangepacker7479 It becomes complicated assigning a sex when the genitals are ambiguous. However, most intersex conditions they will primarily develop as male or female meaning having a vagina or penis.
Trans activist will claim anything: if a girl likes blue, she's trans, if a boy likes pink, he's trans and will be whipped off for puberty blockers and surgery at the drop of a hat.
And there’s Turner Syndrome where the last chromosome is either missing in every cell (Classic) or the last chromosome is either incomplete or missing in different cells (Mosaic). Every TS is female because they each have only female sex organs and not the male sex organs. The incomplete 46th chromosome in the Mosaic cells is an X chromosome. None of them have a hint of a Y chromosome. My granddaughter has the Classic type. It burns me when she is included in the LGBTQ and left’s “gender is fluid” ideology.
An interesting intersex anomaly to discuss with your friends, it's called "Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome", or CAIS. A biological male that cannot process any of the male hormones like testosterone. They develop in the womb as female, grow up and go through female puberty, but they are infertile as they don't have a uterus. Usually girls don't figure this out until late in puberty when they are wondering why they aren't having a period. They identify (rightly so) as women but are biologically male.
Matt has learned more about interseggs and it shows. Like he said, there's no such thing as a person who can both impregnate and get pregnant. But there maybe some cases that are more murkier than others, and in those incredibly rare cases, we take people on a case by case basis.
How can “gender affirming care” affirm someone who is neither male nor female? What gender are we affirming? And why do they ALWAYS look different than the “gender” assigned at conception?
Speaking of a male that grows breast. That may occur when a male ages, likewise a aged female grows facial hair like a man. That's not a trans condition, that is the influence of the concentration of hormones as one ages.
Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.
Kudos to her on being respectful in this discussion. Really. There are a lot of people that usually go crazy with these things. But honestly, is there a way to actually see what 'Intersex' actually is? A lot of the sites I go to are left-wing propaganda about this stuff that I could barely get any unbiased information of the topic.
I saw part of this speaking event on Twitter, so I came here to find the full video except its not listed. Is there another channel or is it on another platform like Rumble, Twitch, DLive or somewhere else?
Every intersex video I've watched on TH-cam has featured an intersex person who had "corrective surgery" when they were a child and all regretted the surgery. 100%. There is nothing to correct. Cutting on anything "down there" damages any pleasure areas forever. They were all very sad stories.
Being intersex is not another gender or sex, it's an anomaly that shouldn't be there, something is wrong. It also does not negate the norm of XX or XY. When there are missing or extra chromosomes there are ISSUES. Behavioral, mental, emotional, developmental, intellectual, and neurological especially; i.e trisomy 21 (Down's Syndrome.) Why the DW staff and others who argue against this activism do not mention that is beyond me. Side note: Men who develop breasts are usually very insecure about it and it's usually a condition called Gynecomastia. Many will get it surgically removed because that is the only option for them. Working out, weight loss and other medicines don't help.
Intersex isn't considered an anomaly or defect by science, apparently. It's a part of the bimodal spectrum of physical sex and secondary sex characteristics. I watched "Valkai Labs" and other discussions. This is science, officially.
Men or boys who develop breaststroke may have a medical condition called gynocomastia. It is a real condition. I have done, and seen done, MDs order mammograms for such condition. I do not know all the ways of diagnosing this.
It's amazing and telling that these kids who try to debate Matt or Ben or Michael, can't ask a simple question without reading the leftist-created talking points off their phones.
1:32 "Currently Intersex issues we find online which is currently typically like infertility, erectile dysfunction for men..." If people with fertility issues and erectile dysfunction are also classified as intersex, then no wonder Intersex population is far more than expected.
There was a Siriac-Greek author named Lucian of Samosata who wroted a parody-tale named "Real Story" about a race of men who live on the Moon where there aren't women and the babies are born from the calf of the men. Maybe she took it to seriously.
Almost every word out of her mouth was false. She started off wrong by stating that intersex is a condition of having incorrect chromosomes. It is not. The chromosomes are correct. What went wrong was the expression of those chromosomes somewhere between conception and birth. She was also wrong that they're not male or female, or that you can't tell. Virtually every intersex person has a clear physical sex that corresponds with two out of the three: chromosomes, hormone levels, and anatomy. That is nearly always the gender which the person perceives, regardless of the aberrant one of the three. It's likely that the biological sex of every intersex person is determinable by science, but that we simply don't yet know how to determine it for the tiny percentage currently unknown , which primarily consists of extremely rare cases of fairly evenly distributed mosaicism.
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Right here is a woman not many will agree with but she came seeking clarification and something to learn
The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Was she there to learn or to shame?
The issue though is that she opened with a false claim but presented it as fact. She was telling,not asking. I dint think she wanted clarification, she just wanted to grandstand......as was displayed when she smirked about having the definition on her phone......kind if like she was celebrating before she won,which she didnt.
Not really. She wants far left propagnada
she is a bad faith actor
Actually, her first statement is incorrect. There are not 5.6 million intersex people in the US. This number is based on an inflated number of disorders that are not truly intersex (I.e. where chromosomes and phenotype don’t match). The real number is closer to 60,000.
Correct. And even then, intersex isn't a 3rd category - its a term people came up with to describe a specific condition that results from chromosomal disorders. Those 60,000 might have a lot going on under the hood, but they're all either male or female.
@@Houlgravely I agree utlimately they are either male or female and it is necessary for them to go into one of these two categories to function in society. Having said that, it can be complicated to determine the sex of some of these individuals and I hope that in trying to stop the child abuse instituted by the transgender advocates through state laws governing gender affirming care for minors, that these folks aren't harmed. It sounds like the Tennessee law was properly written, and hopefully can be a template for other states.
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@@RS-tz2zn people with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
@@ChuckU.Farley543 Again you have no valid response but just can't resist proving that you don't have one.
Her example of a guy with breasts is nothing more than the average Redditor.
I developed a 'breast' in my 20s. It was a lipoma - a benign tumour, and was surgically removed. I still have the scar.
Dropped a barrage of anti-trans comments there and got banned. Worth it.
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@@saltburner2 a lipoma is not a breast. … or did yours have mammary glands ? 😂
Ever heard of Michael Moore?
Excuse me but Kleinfelters syndrome (XXY) and Turner’s syndrome (XXX) are both intersex conditions in which the male and female genitalia respectively is completely there. Unlike what this student claims. The issue with these two conditions is sterility, not ‘I don’t know what I am’. The two people I know who have these conditions would be the first to tell you they are very firmly grounded in their identity consistent with their anatomy. Moreover, medical intervention such as hormone therapy in these cases is to correct a medical deficiency that prevents the body working as it should. This is entirely different from mutilating or altering a healthy body functioning normally according to its chromosomes. Intersex people should not be used as a weapon for the trans movement.
OMG I'm so with you. And what kills me is that they are taking away so much from people born with this condition.
Intresting is, that when i Research them, you get the answer that Klinefelter can only have man and Turner only woman. Which Supports directly the Argument there are only two genders.
People born with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
No, those are not intersex conditions. Any time there is a Y chromosome, it is a male. Any time there are only X chromosomes and no Y, it is only females. Kleinfelter's is only in males, and Turner's is only in females. Turner's syndrome is only ONE X chromosome, not three. XXX is Trisomy X Syndrome.
@@iceeironyyou guys are all confused on simple stuff. I’ll break it down so you understand,
Woman = male who identifies as a woman
Ciswoman = female who identifies as a woman.
Its very simple, we need to show compassion and understand that trans people have high suicide rates compared to woman so they should be shows compassion, woman will be fine. We should refer to transwoman as woman and ciswoman as not woman but ciswoman from now on, this helps everyone.
I never get tired of this guy
Honestly, I appreciate her respectful and calm approach. We've seen so much of the opposite. Real mature adults don't have to swear or flail around when they disagree.
Or call names!
At least she came prepared, even if her "facts" were fiction, and she was able to talk without losing her mind.
erm, the total bs she is spewing... she clearly lost her mind long ago
Yes! Matt's mansplaining definitely proved her well-established facts were dubious. Glad that all us conservatives are so smart at figuring that out!
@@ChuckU.Farley543 Gotta over use those left wing buzzwords.
@@jaimeosbourn3616 yeah, lol mansplaining, hahaha
@@jaimeosbourn3616 You're right!! Matt was definitely a polite gentleman who patiently and thoughtfully let the questioner respond to everything he said, and not a mansplaining full-of-himself blowhard. Good thing us conservatives are so smart that we can figure that out!
how it went...
Lady: "is a male with breasts and a penis still a male"
Matt: "Think about what you just said"
Baphomet has both
Intersex people get medical treatment typically soon after birth, trans people are getting COSMETIC surgery. 2 tottaly different things.......
People born with DSDs have been fighting against the medical industry performing procedures on them as children which were not neccessary to sustain their lives. The language "assigned at birth" was originally used accurrately by people born with these conditions but hss since been hijacked from them by gender ideologues and used to argue for more uneccessary medical intervention on minors, and expand it to be used on healthy children who suffer no Intersex condition at all.
True. And normally their problems later on are mostly related to having children, and many do have children later on just fine or with some help.
I've watched a few videos on intersex people and they all had surgery as children and regretted it. Many sad stories.
Apparently there are parents who don’t do that surgery and let the child get older and observe which gender seems to be more present throughout puberty.
The intersex argument being considered as a third gender is delusional. Intersex people then prove the existence of male and female, thus making it only 2 and no other.
It is sad to me that people blame the parents for making the wrong decision for their child. How are those parents going to know besides doing a closer examination of their child and look at which characteristics are more present.
It’s hilarious to me that the delusional woke leftists want to include intersex in the argument, on top of not being able to define a woman in which can clearly be defined because then transgender people who transition would have it be meaningless then. There are definitely limitations when transitioning and it sucks that there are transgender people who want to continually not recognize their gender they are born as and know they will never be the opposite gender, in which again, that proves 2 genders only.
The US Census questions are written by the Secretary of Commerce who is not a geneticist, so not an expert in intersex classifaction or one to be quoted as if they are an expert in genetics.
I don’t agree with her, but I respect her for being respectful
Sorry, courtesy should be extended to everyone - respect has to be earned.
Those numbers she was quoting about the amount of intersex ppl is absolute bullshit.
Don't be so soft.bwe can't afford it
and she was also making point argument...I get tired of the leftist who constantly go for the smear & character assaination which is almost all the time
Am I mistaken that the statistic she starts off with and she defines as having "incorrect chromosomes", is off by a factor of 100? She uses the figure of 5.6 million intersex individuals, which is about 1.6% of the population, when the actual figure of _genetically_ intersex individuals is estimated to be 0.018% or only about 59 thousand individuals on Earth, not in any one country.
You're right. There was some activist 'sexologist' named Anne fausto sterling who tried to inflate the number by including people with any mild sexual abnormality. My son was born with hypospadias, a relatively common condition for boys, meaning his urethra was not fully formed. He would be included in that 1.6% statistic.
1:32 "Currently Intersex issues we find online which is currently typically like infertility, erectile dysfunction for men..." If people with fertility issues and erectile dysfunction are also classified as intersex, then no wonder Intersex population is far more than expected.
Incorrect chromosomes in the “process of being born.”
That caveat has to make the number even smaller. I mean babies being born whose chromosomes get messed up…that is almost nonexistent
These freaks even include PCOS in it!!
I disagree with her but I appreciate that both sides interacted politely.
I have never met a hermaphrodite, have you? It's so rare, there's no way it's over .05 percent of a given population. Let's worry about men and women and our children and building our population.
No fluidity
Almost all humans are born with a penis and testicals or a vagina, a cervix, uterus and mamory glands. A person born as a male will never be a woman.
@@tbone541I’ve met one but they are indeed rare. I’m also struggling to believe her figure of 5 something million.
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I think that most parents that have a hermaphrodite child, do their best to pick one sex for that child and hope for the best. In my my opinion only those people should get to pick what sex they identify as. If you are born with a penis and testicals you are a male.
If you are born with a vagina and a uterus and mamory glands you are a female and there's nothing either sex can do to change that. If I dress up as a goat, does that make me a goat...
Absolutely not
And just so that people understand this: Intersex doesn't mean that they're a third sex, or 'inbetween' sexes, just that something went wrong during development, and it may be hard for them to identify with the sex they're meant to be, but every body, is always either male or female, and it's not just gametes and chromosomes that separate the sexes from one another. It goes even deeper than that. Anyone who says different, is either lying, deIusi0nal, or wrong.
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@@ChuckU.Farley543 Not a response not a rebuttal. Just you being "dickish".
@@jaimeosbourn3616 And it suckered you into responding! That's awesome! Too easy. 😂😂😂
You can't stop the Matt Walsh.
I stopped him on his own show one day. He couldn't answer my question
@@sherlockhomo-ph4su I'll bite. What was your question?
@@bobwilliams4895 If someone is born with XY chromosomes and a vagina, are they male or female? What gender are they?
@@sherlockhomo-ph4suWho cares what gender they are? First of all, this person does not exist, so to speculate is dumb, second, even if this person did exist it's called an aNoMaLy. You don't base rules of society based on one or even a few individuals. Do I really need to explain why? I seriously think you're lying. Matt would have destroyed you worse than I just did.
Matt isn't a doctor. An intersex person such as this would most likely be considered male as their skeletal structure and hormones would reflect that, as well as certain parts of their reproductive system regardless of whether they have a penis or not. It's an interesting question but wholly irrelevant to what matt walsh argues. Exceptions don't prove anything, hence you also did not stop anything.@@sherlockhomo-ph4su
Not only was the young lady respectful, she researched what she was saying and brought the actual definition with her because she didn't want to make a fool of herself. She presented her case well. Matt of course rebutted her well also. We need more conversations like this.
Yes! Matt's dickish mansplaining definitely makes for a great rebuttal!
@@ChuckU.Farley543 And you get your virtue signaling cookie for today
Yay!@@jaimeosbourn3616reduced himself to pathetic right-wing buzzwords. Keep trying, though, @jaimeosbourn3616, you'll make it some day!
lol sadly she never brought her brain
@@ChuckU.Farley543 So if the same explanations/answers/rebuttal came from a woman speaker that would make it ok to you? Do you see how poor your argument is? Do you want to challenge the argument? Challenge the message NOT the messenger.
Matt never talked against intersex people. In fact he is sympathetic towards their situation. I think she's trying to manipulate the narration by conflating intersex and transgender.
Educated by Matt Walsh.
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@@ChuckU.Farley543 Your emoji key stuck on stupid?
These people need psychological help not placated, stop being part of problem and become the solution by being honest and getting them help, Matt keep up the good fight‼️
Matt's correct regarding the inflation of intersex individuals. National Institutes of Health (NIH) addresses this, stating, "the true prevalence of intersex is [actually] seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%" (or 5.6 million)
Excellent. There has NEVER been a person who has produced both eggs and sperm
Correct, however, not everyone produces viable eggs or viable sperm...and not everyone has organs that can practically procreate.
There's always one dum dum who thinks the exceptions disprove the rule 🗿
(I saw the whole lecture... that said) You're correnct - and SHE was IT. She was, however, polite, respectful,
and listened to Matt's complete responses.
Here’s the thing with the type of guys like Matt Walsh. We don’t know how he would respond especially since how he usually is 🤷 so at least he isn’t duh mode like no that doesn’t exist duhh
They always start out with confidence, thinking they have the argument to defeat Matt. It's fun to see the panic in their faces as he calmly dismantles their argument. Keep them coming, very funny.
I checked this statistic a couple years ago. Estimate .5% percent of population is truely intersex. More than I would have imagined, but still not a large minority. And, Matt is entirely correct, although they may have "the equipment", they are unable to produce eggs & sperm, only one. So, the default would be to that gender.
There are no "intersex" individuals.
There are males (humans with at least one Y chromosome in every cell) and females (humans with x chromosomes in every cell and without even a Y chromosome).
@@qwertyuqwertyu7481 The term used to be Hermaphrodite & I know one. Fifth child. Parents asked Dr. what they should do. Dr. told them to raise child as they saw fit. Since they already had 4 boys, they raised as a boy. Has a uterus, but does not menstruate. So, yes, male. But until puberty sets in, they really didn't know witch way biology was going to go. Just saying. I agree with only 2 genders, or did you miss my point?
Those are clearly inflated statistics, probably to pander to trans-activist pressure. There's no way that 5 out of 100 people walking down the sidewalk has both make and female sex organs. Common sense tells me that. For example, I don't need to be a veterinarian to know what a dog looks like. I think the statistic would be probably closer to 1 in 100,000, if that.
It’s actually 0.018%
@@hakeemfrancis1099 Thank You.
Nice to see this exchange. Matt was very respectful. She is a university student who did her research. She should not be faulted because she had never heard Matt's truthful argument about why the number 5,000,000 is flawed. She listened and appeared to be willing to consider his argument.
What could she possibly mean by "incorrect chromosomes" in her preamble?
That does rather give the game away!
I don't know if that's possible. Wrong chromosomes? I'm no doctor and I don't know.
@@rickcarson9423 A bit like being born in the wrong body?
@@saltburner2 I heard a woman say that without the proper drugs, her child would be forced to go through the wrong puberty! Child abuse plain and simple!
@@saltburner2 I heard this one. I was a man trapped in a woman's body. Thankfully my mom went to the hospital and I was born!
5.6 million minus 5.59999million = actual intersex probably
This is what debate should look like. No name-calling, cancelling of free speech, etc...Both parties were respectful.
No one's against anyone going to see a doctor.
Just don't play Frankenstein with kids.
And if you wanna take on such extreme measures as an adult, do that on your own dime. Don't make insurance companies raise premiums on the rest of us.
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Thank you..this cleared up a lot of confusion.
He’s right they are inflating the numbers
Conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female, occur in 0.018% of the population, not 1.7% as has been estimated by some “experts”.
good to see a real discussion from both sides instead of yelling and screaming at each other, Kudos to both of them
Glad to see she was mature enough to have a civil dialogue. Many from her camp would just start yelling "trans lives matter" as soon as Matt started talking.
5.6 millions? 🤦 Where did she get that number? Oh,online! It must be true then!
I just don't trust people that use the word "like" more than three times in one sentence.
Respect to her for being civil and having an honest discussion with the information she had.
All I heard when she asked her question was “ And one time in band camp”…..
for some reason matt seemed a little on edge but he handled that very well. He should have initially led that intersex isn't a third gender but well done, nonetheless, on both parties. 👏
yeah that statistic is a lie. there is an Evolutional Biologist named Colin Wright who wrote an article called Intersex is Not as Common as Red Hair and others have wrote similar things.
They know. They’ll keeping lying and lying
How tf are you able to compare a medical condition to delusions?
*Liberals *
5.6 million intersex? Hardly
Her definition of 'intersex' is incorrect; a common issue. The most frequent Xy chromosome anomalies are XXy , Xo and XXX. These people are NOT 'intersex'. They are visibly either male; XXy, or female Xo and XXX. Until recently their chromosomal anomaly would have gone undetected. Externally they appear to be physically either male or female and in previous years would have been described as such at birth.
True 'intersex' is someone with AIS. They are genetically male Xy but their external appearance is female. This is a rare but well documented situation. They have no reproductive capacity.
I wish people would learn and understand the difference. The misinformation that is being propagated is damaging. As a final point, I have searched in vain for any legitimate study that shows that people with chromosomal anomalies are MORE likely to request gender affirming medical intervention than those with normal chromosomes. If anyone has any details of any legitimate study that shows otherwise, I would very much like to read it.
Thank you for doing a lot of research on this topic.
But in my opinion, the case of intersex people is just used by gendrer ideology activists to confuse the minds of people who believe in biology.
They don't want us to say "male and female" supposedly to be inclusive with intersex people, but in that case why continuing to say "humans have 5 senses" if there are blind, or deaf people?
Their interest in Intersex is not logic , but for manipulation proposal.
Why is the main speaker's connection to the sound system much worse than a person asking questions?
An interesting case is Lady Colin Campbell (b. 1949) who at birth had genitalia which confused doctors; She was a rare case of someone who was 'assigned' male, and raised as a boy but was actually female. ['Colin' is the name of her former husband.] See Wikipedia for details.
Well I think we need to create new laws for society based on this one individual, as long as it supports the goals that tech billionaires put into my head 🤡👍
Intersex conditions are rare. However , there are intersex conditions they will develop primarily as male or female E.G XX male 80% will develop fully as male. Their XX chromosomes are not true female chromosomes due to having the SRY male gene translocated on the X chromosomes resulting in them developing as male. Swyer Syndrome XY will develop primarily as female their XY chromosomes are not true male chromosomes due to a missing SRY male gene or SRY mutated male gene resulting in them primarily developing as female having a vagina and uterus but underdeveloped and non functioning gonads (ovaries/testes)
@@mystic22g4 Lady C was born with deformed/undeveloped female genitalia, much later corrected surgically. Doctors advised her parents to raise her as a boy, which they did - but it was a mistake. Even after the correction, she remained infertile, but she is happy as a woman - she was never happy as a boy.
If someone opened with and out right lie. I'd just tell them to get lost. You can't debate liars. They just keep lying.
There is no such thing as a non-binary, or gender fluid human.
They're not going to turn to dust and disappear just because you said that. They exist and are here to stay just like Trans People. Get over it.
@@ethandollarhide7943 They can't turn to dust. They don't exist any more than unicorns do.
@@Tawny593 Congratulations, you made ZERO people that identify as Non Binary or Gender Fluid disappear with that statement.
@@ethandollarhide7943 And transxuality is different from non-binarity.
@@ethandollarhide7943 People who identify as gender fluid or non-binary exist, but the non binary identity is completely BS. Just because these non-binary people exist doesn't mean their identity is valid.
Where is the audio engineer for these events..... The mics ring out constantly!!!! Every single time
She is arguing for .01% of the population...good for her
She just claimed that there are more intersex people than trans people…what?
If gender is a social construct why they need affirmation care then 🤔
Why do they need hormones and surgery?
Holy geez are these kids ever brainwashed. Dont send your children to college or university!!!
Would bet lunch that her definition of intersex is the Sterling definition which includes LOCAH… which is not an irregular combination of sex genes. There are only two haploid gametes.
There’s nowhere in the United States, that hormones are not given for precocious puberty, which is one of the things she’s talking about
And currently, even that use is being thought thru with more caution due to the risks of extremely harmful side effects which stem from their intended use.
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Leviticus 20:13 KJV Bible Deuteronomy 22:5 !!! Brings the punishment of Luke 17:2 for confusing children and away from God !!!
Please don't confuse the issue by introducing theology.
We are meant to be debating on an agreed upon premise. Any specific religion is not agreed upon as a basis, so you are merely trying to use an argument by authority.
“College makes you stupider.” -Dennis Prager
This young woman is incorrect having an extra chromosome such as XXY Klinefelter's syndrome is not an intersex condition trans activist claim it is but it's not. Intersex is defined as a discrepancy between internal gonads (ovaries/testes) and external genitalia. XXY fully develop as males they may have a smaller penis, low testosterone level, low sperm count but they do not have ambiguous genitalia some can even father children.
There are also intersex condition in which that person will develop primarily as female or male. XX male 80% will develop fully as male, Their XX do hot represent true female chromosomes because the SRY male gene becomes translocated on the X chromosomes resulting in them developing as male.
Swyer syndrome XY will develop primarily as female such as having a vagina and uterus but no functioning ovaries or uterus are assigned female at birth and is usually not recognized until puberty due to not having a menstrual cycle.
Androgene Sensitivity Syndrome XY are genetic males because they are resistance to the male hormone androgen they have the physical traits of a female such as vagina. There are 2 types of AIS and people with partial AIS may have both male and female physical characteristics. Many have partial closing of the outer vagina, an enlarged clitoris, and a short vagina.
Idk why this is so hard to understand for some people lol. Having a genetic discrepancy makes it harder to identify your sex, but it does not put you on some weird spectrum
@@orangepacker7479 It becomes complicated assigning a sex when the genitals are ambiguous. However, most intersex conditions they will primarily develop as male or female meaning having a vagina or penis.
Thank you 👍🏻
Trans activist will claim anything: if a girl likes blue, she's trans, if a boy likes pink, he's trans and will be whipped off for puberty blockers and surgery at the drop of a hat.
And there’s Turner Syndrome where the last chromosome is either missing in every cell (Classic) or the last chromosome is either incomplete or missing in different cells (Mosaic). Every TS is female because they each have only female sex organs and not the male sex organs. The incomplete 46th chromosome in the Mosaic cells is an X chromosome. None of them have a hint of a Y chromosome. My granddaughter has the Classic type. It burns me when she is included in the LGBTQ and left’s “gender is fluid” ideology.
The fact that this is even a discussion…
We as Americans are living on borrowed time as far as freedom has it
5.6 intersex Americans, who all happen to be male or female.
That droning, monomaniacal delivery...🤪
Matt is a legend
She was rational and polite
and cute too
She needs to learn what determines sex. It's really dumb for a college student to claim that there are people who aren't male or female.
@@bobwilliams4895 Sadly it is what the colleges teach these days.
yet still so, so wrong.
She was polite, but not rational.
What exactly does YAF have against the deaf by blocking captions on all their videos?
An interesting intersex anomaly to discuss with your friends, it's called "Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome", or CAIS. A biological male that cannot process any of the male hormones like testosterone. They develop in the womb as female, grow up and go through female puberty, but they are infertile as they don't have a uterus. Usually girls don't figure this out until late in puberty when they are wondering why they aren't having a period. They identify (rightly so) as women but are biologically male.
Really Young America's Foundation ?!
No "play all videos" in Home page ?
Matt has learned more about interseggs and it shows. Like he said, there's no such thing as a person who can both impregnate and get pregnant. But there maybe some cases that are more murkier than others, and in those incredibly rare cases, we take people on a case by case basis.
How can “gender affirming care” affirm someone who is neither male nor female? What gender are we affirming? And why do they ALWAYS look different than the “gender” assigned at conception?
Not a chance there are 8 millions that are intersex. not a chance.. more like 100.
The prevailing “wisdom” is that this isn’t biology, and then they ask a biology question.
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Yeeesh.
Speaking of a male that grows breast. That may occur when a male ages, likewise a aged female grows facial hair like a man. That's not a trans condition, that is the influence of the concentration of hormones as one ages.
Klinefelter syndrome is frequently associated with gynecomastia, even early in puberty.
Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.
Kudos to her on being respectful in this discussion. Really. There are a lot of people that usually go crazy with these things. But honestly, is there a way to actually see what 'Intersex' actually is? A lot of the sites I go to are left-wing propaganda about this stuff that I could barely get any unbiased information of the topic.
She seems like a good student. I mean that sincerely. She had some false ideas but it looked like she was willing to learn.
The moment she said "chromozones", it was clear there was something not quite right.
I saw part of this speaking event on Twitter, so I came here to find the full video except its not listed. Is there another channel or is it on another platform like Rumble, Twitch, DLive or somewhere else?
Every intersex video I've watched on TH-cam has featured an intersex person who had "corrective surgery" when they were a child and all regretted the surgery. 100%.
There is nothing to correct. Cutting on anything "down there" damages any pleasure areas forever. They were all very sad stories.
This is all a distraction.
If you have to lie at the very beginning, your entire question should be discarded.
She was just misinformed. She seems alright
@@wordforever117She knowingly conflated intersex with trans-stuff. If she was simply misinformed, then she is an idiot and is still lying.
Her question is pointless because it started with a false premise, because it begins with a false statement the entire question falls apart.
What’s funny? Is they go on about people who are intersex but the majority of people who are trans are not intersect😂
Being intersex is not another gender or sex, it's an anomaly that shouldn't be there, something is wrong. It also does not negate the norm of XX or XY. When there are missing or extra chromosomes there are ISSUES. Behavioral, mental, emotional, developmental, intellectual, and neurological especially; i.e trisomy 21 (Down's Syndrome.) Why the DW staff and others who argue against this activism do not mention that is beyond me.
Side note: Men who develop breasts are usually very insecure about it and it's usually a condition called Gynecomastia. Many will get it surgically removed because that is the only option for them. Working out, weight loss and other medicines don't help.
Girl, "intersex" people are still male if they have the Y chromosome.
Where did you learn your Biology? TikTok?
She didn't understand most of what he said.
Intersex isn't considered an anomaly or defect by science, apparently. It's a part of the bimodal spectrum of physical sex and secondary sex characteristics. I watched "Valkai Labs" and other discussions. This is science, officially.
... She actually seemed not to be unhinged,for a leftest. Seemed a nice gal 😮🥴
One thing immediately springs to mind, being long-term ex British military, and that thing is a bullet ‼️
So Matt Walsh by is own admission defends a law he has not read as well as stating what is in the law which he as not read.
Men or boys who develop breaststroke may have a medical condition called gynocomastia. It is a real condition. I have done, and seen done, MDs order mammograms for such condition. I do not know all the ways of diagnosing this.
Intersex are so rare they shouldn't even be considered for use in an argument
It's amazing and telling that these kids who try to debate Matt or Ben or Michael, can't ask a simple question without reading the leftist-created talking points off their phones.
1:32 "Currently Intersex issues we find online which is currently typically like infertility, erectile dysfunction for men..." If people with fertility issues and erectile dysfunction are also classified as intersex, then no wonder Intersex population is far more than expected.
There was a Siriac-Greek author named Lucian of Samosata who wroted a parody-tale named "Real Story" about a race of men who live on the Moon where there aren't women and the babies are born from the calf of the men. Maybe she took it to seriously.
Thanks lady, i have a headache now, lol
Absolutely because you know at birth, if you were born with both. The percentages are unbelievable shorter than being born with dwarfism
The more I hear leftists talk, the more I feel like my IQ is going down a couple points
Almost every word out of her mouth was false. She started off wrong by stating that intersex is a condition of having incorrect chromosomes. It is not. The chromosomes are correct. What went wrong was the expression of those chromosomes somewhere between conception and birth. She was also wrong that they're not male or female, or that you can't tell. Virtually every intersex person has a clear physical sex that corresponds with two out of the three: chromosomes, hormone levels, and anatomy. That is nearly always the gender which the person perceives, regardless of the aberrant one of the three.
It's likely that the biological sex of every intersex person is determinable by science, but that we simply don't yet know how to determine it for the tiny percentage currently unknown , which primarily consists of extremely rare cases of fairly evenly distributed mosaicism.
I can't believe we have to even discuss this!
SMH,
Andy. Annmarie's husband