3D Scanning WILL change our Hobby!
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surely make a full squad of mercenaries with every member at the studio then paint them up, maybe a killteam?
This needs to happen! A full killteam of Jazza's team!
EXACTLY.
Use hero forge miniatures so that each member of the team can create their persona,
Surely hero forge would sponsor that too
YES
Watching Gareth run away with his model has so much ‘two week notice’ energy!
‘Uh Gareth I need that back-‘
‘It’s mine now! What’re you gonna do? Fire me?’
aw that is SUCH a good gift idea! The personalization that Dave was able to add as well made it all the more special! It was especially sweet to make one of Gareth! I do hope he gets to keep it!
Aww what an amazing gift for Gareth you need to make a bigger model of him and have it in the office. Jens was beautiful to you should do a model of the whole team
I know that the guys from Eons of Battle had a similar problem with none blonde hair and such not picking up properly. They solved it with putting a light dusting of flour over themselves to get the hair to pick up. Worked pretty well in the end.
The flour trick will probably work on most surfaces that the scanner struggles with.
For Darker Hair, try dusting the subject with something like Baby Powder. In my small amount of Scanner Tomfoolery that really helped with being able to scan hair, and also darker skin tones
I did this a few years ago using an xbox one kinect. Got good results from my face scan, still haven't 3d printed it for my miniatures yet however.
Appreciate this is a paid sponsorship for creality, but to keep the hobby affordable for others, don't forget to look horizontally at other good tech, especially something you can find easily and cheap 2nd hand. 👍
Try the app Polycam with an iPhone with Lidar. I scanned a gnome that is just shy of 2cm tall and it picked up every little detail! Every finger, every bobble on the hat, the chainmail, everything! And the coolest thing is, it textures everything for you as well. So you have a finished 3D object with textures and everything!
And the coolest thing is you don‘t need a turning table or a special camera. Which makes it way easier and faster to scan stuff.
I even scanned full rooms, ramps from a bike park and larger models. everything accurate and beautiful!
So to finish my comment up: It is possible to scan EVERYTHING! Tiny minis, Candles, PCs, People. EVERYTHING!
PS: If you need some help with Stuff like this, I live in Europe, but am still happy to help you guys!
I would try it in a dark room, and yes, using size mods is one of the best ways to get what you want.
Id imagine this tool will be really useful for terrain also, scanning real life objects to shrink and print as scatter or w/e
Absolutely, especially if you have cool stuff lying around. Interesting crates, drums etc
@@TabletopTime for sure. Imagine all the orky stuff in a scrapyard. There is all sorts of stuff you could find out and about.
3m3d can do this with an iphone.
Me and my brother are doing Black templars and Ultra Marines.
I wanted Space Bears!!!! Soooooo badly. I can't wait to see what custom chapter you guys come up with next
Ugh. So much inspiration from you guys. It's overwhelming. Please stop. 🙏
Eons of battle had an awesome scanner
Incredibly fitting that a Baby Björn holds together Jazzas costume
LETS GOOOOO! You guys never cease to amaze me. I have turned so many of my friends that are into warhammer 40k along with me, to your channel. And the Gaming Channel. Your guy's voices, are pretty soothing to have on whilst in the background. Also the fun you have keeps all of us engaged!
That Sister of Battle turned out AWESOME! the flamethrower/chainsaw seems fitting, too!
Eons of Battle did something similar, and they managed to scan hairs by puoring flavour on Jay.
Man, first whacking her in the nose with the chain, then the awkward pat on the shoulder… Jen really took one for the team in this one!
Nice looking little scanner, when we use industry scanners if your doing heavy detail and a heap of scans you can true adding a fix know dimension object to the scan, sphere’s or cubes. You then aligned everything based on the added object to limit the required processing correction factors. Be nice to know if this makes a difference. Great vid as always
The possibilities go super far beyond minis, it won’t be long till people are making action figures of themselves! Awesome video keep up the awesome work! 🤘🤘🔥🔥
That reminds me of my Shadowrun group way back when. I modeled all our characters with our own faces (one of my buddies was particular fun, he played a troll) I used Poser 8.0. Took me hours to model just one face, then some more hours to model the body and the scene and then *TWO FRIGGIN' DAYS* just to render it and export it as a jpeg.
If i had a 3D scanner 25 years ago tho.....
That was pretty sick. Especially the final sister of battle with the flamer
I'd love to see this used to take a classic model and scale it u to work with modern 32mm games. Some of the Realms of Chaos stuff say or a display piece of Brian Nelson's classic Archaon.
Little tip: I think this scanner uses unique geometry/color changes to track where it’s at on objects, therefore, you can help the scanner by placing tiny high contrast (color) pieces of tape all over your subject. These little pieces of tape will act like breadcrumbs for the scanner to know where it is in space. It will need to see multiples at a time for the best result.
Also, yes, dark (black) and shiny (chrome or white) colors will be difficult for the scanner to pick up.
Cheers for a great video. I just purchased the scan-lizard and being a novice to scanning it gave me some goods points to work with. Nice one and all the best
I'd love to see you do a comparison of these techniques vs using photogrametry. I've still not seen results from similar 'hobby scanners' that I would consider better than what you can get from a good set of photos and some photogrametry software.
I would love to have small busts of my family instead of portraits. So, someone should set up a portrait studio that does these instead of photos. A 3D portrait studio..? 3D printed portraits? But not minis. Like, print them as large as the 3D printer can do. That would be incredible. If they're printed well and then painted well, it would be so cool to have them on a shelf or the mantel instead of photos in a frame on the wall. Am I crazy or is this a good idea? It's a good idea, right? It would be like being a wealthy Roman or something and having a bust made but it doesn't cost a fortune.
I remember seeing this done during the making of Walking With Dinosaurs when I was a kid back when it was the cutting edge. It's so cool that it has developed into such an accessible form.
I have both the Lizard and the Revopoint Mini. The mini is fantastic for 28mm terrain and minis. I'd use the Lizard for anything larger. The software for the Revopoint is better overall. The creality software doesn't have enough user options. The original software actually gets better results even though it's less user friendly.
Sister of Battle Jen is AMAZING!
For parts 5cm or less I would suggest to buy a special scanner like the Revopoint mini or scanners for Jewellery.
It seems like this things strength is turning any real life thing into a miniature with precise detail.
Good video, Jay from EoB just did a similar thing. he used a spinny chair and tripod the scanner. Sorry to see you go Gareth
Oh, it's sad to see Gareth go. I hope he does well in the future.
There are various ways to get some textures to work. Dots, powder or even matte gell can work
Gareth's final video should be him painting jazzas copy of his guardsman and jazza painting one for him!
First day priming? Woof!
Hmm, Team Tabletop Time in their respective universes, including cameos for the roleplay channel...
Sounds like an interesting idea thinking about it.
I wonder if putting hairspray or talcum powder would help with capturing the hair detail by making it more matte?
Thats a great idea and definitely worth a shot!
Yeah when scanning 3D objects your often suppose to coat it in a special spray (that wipes off) which makes the object have a matt grey finish which makes things MUCH easier to scan
Jay from Eons of Battle had the same scanning idea and used flour, I think, to deal with the gloss.
This is fun tech! It would be fun to have a full warband of your best mates
Looks interesting, although I think for most of us it’d probably be worth holding off for a few more years so the tech can be refined some more; at the moment it looks like it’d be more of a novelty than a useful tool for 3D printing minis.
Regarding the hair issue: could it be alleviated somewhat by the use of hair products? I’m thinking maybe use wax/gel to style the hair into thick clumps/strands, similar the the stylised ones you sculpted in Blender onto Jen’s model (at the risk of making your scanee look like an anime protagonist 😝). And for antireflectiveness, maybe dust the hair with talc or similar powder?
Both of these will improve the scans by the sounds of it
that is such a cool thing and cya garry will be missed
i think if you scan larger scale anime figures itll work very well
I think GW need to get on this, cuz sum of there new human face scalps are terrible 😂
Polycam is ace for this kind of thing too
I do 3d scanning for museums and the like. And we use a corn starch based talcum powder on shinny things as it doesn't damage the subject matter. I don't know it it will work on hair.
Now we need a kill team (or something similar?) with the whole crew!
Looking at this I couldn’t help but think that if there is an open source version of the software, you might be able to adapt an old Kinect to do something similar. I have hooked one up to my computer and the scanning camera does work.
Nope. Not done. Need to see Jazza as a Space Bear and you, Dave, as a T’au. Then there needs to be a game with all of you in it. HAS TO HAPPEN!!!!
I saw some youtube channels. they used baby talcum powder and put it on their hair, and it was amazing that it can scan the entire of the head area absolutely.
Scan and make face bricks for the brick wall backdrop
I'm waiting since years for affordable and solid technology, I have to wait a bit more
They make a 3d scanning aerosol spray. Goes on white and non reflective and dissolves on its own after 4 hours and leaves behind no residue. Really helps pick up details.
Video 33 of asking for the Thunderbear cavalry that would use the Thunderwolf cavalry statblock
Awesome. It would be great if you guys compared it with other 3d scanning solutions. Things like photogrammetry (Meshroom for example) the Xbox Kinect or the newer iPhone's LIDAR functionality (polycam is a popular app) and compare usability and results. I've scanned faces using Meshroom, my phone and my laptop with good results but haven't tried miniatures.
Love the show!
/Bo
There are scanning spraypaints that look white when fresh and disappear when dry, you could use this to scan your Macintosh computer
Do you guys plan on 3D scanning your customized minis to make them STL files?
Buy one McFarlane Space Marine, and then pose an entire army exactly how you want at 28mm scale!
you have to use baby powder or food spray to scan hair
PAINT EM!!!!!
Hmmm... May have to try this project.
Eons of battle-y
There are scanners that can scan miniatures in detail, but they are outside of the hobbyist budget, starting at around $10k.
at that price maybe that's how it is. i remember seeing a video of a guy doing the same with something like a 5000$ jewelry scanner, which wasn't just a rotating table but could scan at different angles. that one was way more efficient, easily did small bits from a space marine
This also means you can effortlessly import your models as 3d models, to put into animations.
I backed the Kickstarter.
When it arrived I had to find uses for it and sadly a I could really think of was to take scan of my elderly family members faces to act as death masks for future generation.
Congestions 😂🤣💀
Pretty Nice
Those turned out so awesome!!! I've used similar processes in land measurement, but many years ago, and you're very correct that the surface does make a huge difference. I'd be interested to experiment with adding something to hair to give it a little matte before scanning to see what happens!
The missing piece of the 3D printing puzzle. Looks like it's a few years off but coming along nicely.
THIS IS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!
Hope you put these on MMF need a Gareth 🤩
Could you please give out the STL files of all your heads? :D we need a TTT killteam :P
15:09 na dude...thats totaly how we do it as well!
Where did you get that AMAZING mew shirt ? ❤
new TTT video!! time to drop everything to watch it!
Well damn... got me off guard hear björn basically pronounced as expected with aussie accent. GG!
You need to look into N.E.R.F.s for 3d scanning. Corridor did a video on it not too long ago
We need a full tabletop time killteam sold on mymini factory. If you want to go full force make different ones for each faction
I'll miss him. I hope he makes special appearances for more resident evil.
Other than that, this was really cool.
We will all miss him terribly
Rather than rotating the model on the plate, did you try changing the elevation of the camera. That way your model overlaps are more consistent and you are getting better views of the mini. ?
I use a laser scanner for work but at a much larger scale. I found that multiple scans at different elevations gave a better view of the object scanned and filled in gaps.
Are you also able to change the resolution that you scan at or is it fixed?
By the All Father I want my head on a Space Wolf! This video just cost me money...
I Love Gareth
At last we can have brigades of daemonettes with Winston Churchill's manly features
try a small 3d scanner made for small things like a jewelry 3d scanner
Tabletop Time Kill Team, without a DOUBT, and if any of you guys have pets, include them somehow! 😃
Love the mew shirt mate
That was sent to us by a long time fan, patron and genuinely amazing community member Tris, I love it! Being a veteran of the pokemon first movie in cinemas back in the day, Mew holds a special place!
Where did you get that shirt.
I want the shirt. I WANT THE SHIRT
Which shirt in particular?
@@TabletopTime I gotta know where the mew shirt is from
I was thinking the Mew shirt, but all the shirts you wear in the vid are dope
I would really like to see an army of space bear jazza against an army of tau converted imperial guard dave
"something about the surface that reflects light". yeah, that'll be the big piece of glass known as the screen....
Hair and fur have been the bane of digital 3D modeling for as long as it's been a thing.
$800 for that scanner, $400 or more for a resin printer, prep station, a good high quality computer if you don't already have one, dozens if not hundreds of hours learning 3D sculpting and fixing and adjusting the scans. Then dozens or hundreds of hours printing the miniatures and cleaning them. I don't think miniature manufacturers are in any risk of going bankrupt any time soon.
can we see you do the revopoint mini for a comparison
Imagine scanning toilet and add 2 heavy bolters and the 3d print it
You can use any ordinary camera for photogrammetry so I'm wondering is there anything special about their "3D scanner" camera?
It feels like this scanner is very compact, but not very suitable for direct handheld. We have a sensepro can be handheld for a long time, and the scanning effect is also very good
Cool video but why do the models look like that when you've primed them? At first I though "oh no they got ruined somehow" but apparently that was on purpose?
if my hobby budget would allow such great technology i would totally make funny faces and print out crazy chaos cultists who are beyond any reason and logical thought
Interesting 🤔 Jazza did this but simpler
I feel like regular photogrammertry with a dslr and either Reality capture or polycam returns far better results for far far cheaper
@Table Top if you get chance take a look at RFD Hobby latest video. His whole house has burnt down and maybe the community can send him some much needed love? ❤️
Based on that Hulk test it looks like scanning tech hasn’t advanced much for small objects in many years.
"Astra Primursa Jen."
*STEALS JAZZA'S PAULDRONS*