I searched for "under $100 pellet rifle review". Yours is by far the best review video. Probably gonna get the Daisy 880 based on your review. Gotta thin out the squirrel herd in the back yard. Thanks again.
Check out the Buckrail accessory for it. H and N terminators have done the best for pellets for me and also I like the BSA 4x32ao scopes. Just putting it out there if you’re looking for stuff like that.
That's good information for all folks, noob or experienced air rifle fans. I got my first BB gun in the late 1960's, love the hobby and always appreciate other peoples idea's and knowledge. Living in an apartment with limited outdoor opportunity to do some plinking is a challenge, so I built a pellet trap (for indoor shooting), the key is 'Duct Seal Compound" which is almost like thick clay type of substance, it comes in 1lb blocks or packs of multiple, it catches the pellet or BB with zero ricochets, it can be found in the electrical dept at the big box home improvement stores. There are lots of various plans on how to make one on the internet. Thank you Travis.
I had a Crosman 2100 years ago, and I took some 1/2 inch wide foam with adhesive on one side and stuck it on the inside of the pump handle to quiet down that clacking sound every time you pumped it. It wasn't weather striping it was a denser foam than that. Something I picked up at the hardware store. It quieted it down quite a bit.
Great video, lots of good details! Can you tell me what one has more power, the Umarex NXG, or the Daisy 880. I like to shoot steel coffee cans for my targets using bbs.
The 880 has more power. But if you can find a 1977xs, it’s a souped up 880. But they tend to need maintenance after a few thousand shots. The 880 is my pick.
I've had my 2100 for over 30 years. It's been great fun year after year. My son and I put new seals in as it eventually needed them and it's still going strong. (Yes, its fiddly but there's TH-cam videos to help) works great at 25 yards, hits steel consistently at 45 yards and we can hit at 55 if the target is big enough. Love it
Thanks Travis, the Daisy 901 is going to be my next budget purchase.I was considering the Legacy but I think the 901 just might be better. The 880 will be my #1 always
The Winchester 1977xs is awesome too , basically a slightly different looking 880 on steroids lol ..I get 900fps with daisy pointed lead pellets out of it 😳 not to shabby for a multipump and very accurate scoped
The 880 is a great kids gun especially for ease of pumping and the money. 40$ is awesome and if you put pellets in it and a 4X32 light weight scope…those kids won’t miss much out to 30-40 yards. Take the front plastic site off and wrap a piece of Scotch tape to snug it up inside the front site. You will increase the accuracy by about 25%. Hope this helps. Great info bud. Thanks.
That was an excellent pellet gun in the mid 90s and the best you could get off the shelf at Walmart. They totally turned them into trash around 2000 or so couldn't believe how bad they ruined that thing, went from the absolute best to making a red rider look like a target rifle. I hope they went back like they were originally.
Got my 1377 on clearance at walmart for $25 because I had one waaaay back in the day and thought it would be fun. Was kinda bummed out because it was all plastic... my old one was all wood and metal with a weird slide open breech instead of a tiny bolt handle. Definitely better built back then. But of course I found the mods and have built it to a mini rifle and its awesome now. 14" barrel, steel breech, fiber front sight, rear peep sight, oem stock and I printed fatty pump forend. Totally different beast now lol
On the defense of Crosman 760 smooth bore. I have a reservations shooting steel BB's in a rifled barrel. All this Winter, I shot my 760 (3 pumps/shot only) with Crosman Copperhead BB's shooting small bore targets printed on 65lb cardstock. This combination is very inexpensive and allows lots of practice. I ditched the small Crosman 4x scope in favor of a red dot which allows fine sight adjustment with easier single BB loading. I shoot my Crosman 2100 Classic with pellets only just to be gentler on the rifled barrel bore.
I can’t remember the channel. But he was using his newer 760 as an indoor plinker and I can see it being a great gun for that. I just wish they offered a rifled so that I could use hunting with my kids.
Speaking of rabbit hole... I bought my son a red ryder for Christmas. Since then I picked up a Crosman 1377, 1322, and a browning buck mark for myself. Now you've got me seriously considering a daisy 880. I feel like I'm too old to be buying bb guns. I love the crosman 13xx,but like you said, i despise the plastic breech and the rear sight. I don't like how the rear sight sticks way up and gets snagged on everything. I have to re-adjust it every time I get it out. The steel breech and the rear sight are pretty pricey.
Hey Travis, As always, another excellent video! I'm just getting around to watching it again, and only now able to comment. First of all, thanks once again for mentioning accuracy and adequate power for humane hunting and harvesting!!! You really stressed respect for life even if you are taking it, and not letting an animal suffer needlessly. Kudos to you. You really help me by reinforcing what I intend to teach my kids. Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.
I have bagged squirrel with a Crossman 760 with BB's and 5 pumps, but only at close range. The two guns me and my buddies had when I was a kid were the early 80's Crossman 760 and Daisy 880. The Crossman shot BB's way better, the Daisy shot pellets way better. Rifled vs Smoothbore barrels I guess... Kids liked rolling with BB's because of easy reload, so to me the Crossman was king. I know I made out to 30 yard shots on birds with the Crossman with BB's as a kid. Now as an adult I bought two vintage early 80's 760's and I have a new Daisy 880. The Daisy throws BB's everywhere, Crossman even with iron sights I can shoot a great group with BB's out to about 10-15 yards. So, just for plinking and maybe closer range small pest control BB's are fine. Any type of hunting outside of 15 yards and in I would go with .22 pellets like my Gammo Swarm. (kickass 10rd pellet mag as well)
The Chinese make a plastic breech that works well for the 1322 2240 family , it's not obvious that it's plastic it has same dimensions as the steel breeches , the negative I can say about it is when it came it had a lot of scratches from being in a bin with tons of other breeches , a simple scuffing with a green scrubber will take all the scratches out and I can say it works well at 25 percent of the weight of the steel breeches . All I'm saying is Crosman could do the same as OEM . Nice list , I agree although I havnt owned some of the guns you mentioned , I definitely had an 880 and a Legacy , currently own the 1322 converted from a 1377 , it was 44 bucks so I couldn't resist . I saw you hit 3k in Subs , way to be man keep the vids coming , wouldn't it be great to email Pyramid tell them about your channel and get some free stuff .
The Crossman 760 seemed to make a lot of sense for the kids killing paper and soda cans with bb's, but I found out that the break very easily where the stock meets the receiver. Too bad, because they are very handy, easy to load bb's and pellets, accurate enough to drill soda cans at 10 yards, and made in the US. I'm trying out the Powerline 35 now to see if it will hold up better. If crossman fixes their weak design, then I'll go back to the 760
For budget squirrel pellet guns I'd say, Daisy 880 pump gun under a $100 is best way to go, then for around $110 the Crosman Vantage break barrel is good choice, then from there one of the budget pcp options for around $200-300
Slap a 24-inch Barrel on mine I gained a little over 100 ft per second my 177 pushes about 8 ft pounds of energy and the 22 version if I remember is right around 10
I started building stocks for airguns 20 years ago, because I am left handed I was just thinking I would like to buy a 2100 or 880 and build a nice figured maple stock for it.
I liked the Remington 66. Back in the day. Was a great gun. Over 650 fps would trust it for wilderness hiking. Plenty of power and accuracy. The older Crosman 760s were way better than newer 760s. Easier to pump short plastic hand grips on older 760 s pumping handle made pumping easier
I'm not a huge pneumatic fan but I will probably get one of those Seneca Dragonfly's at some point. I do have the Crosman Legacy and I find it hard to pump towards the end and the tiny pellet port doesn't like my sausage fingers.
I got the mk2 and its pretty awesome. 1 pump all the way to 15 is the same. Accurate and has irons and threaded barrel... really nothing I'd change other than make it slightly more powerful
Excellent video, Travis. I am a big 880 fan, as you know, but I think you may well become a big 901 fan after you get one, as I have become. Yes, the moderators for the 880, that also fit the 901, have made a huge difference for my back yard plinking. I also think the 901 is easier to load. Sorry, so may comments I make on your videos includes a reference to the Daisy 880 and/or the 901. Thank you for stating "you get it." :)
My favorite airgun for shooting with a B•B is the Daisy Powerline 35 model. It shoots really accurate at realistic ranges of up to 25 yards, etc. It is accurate to shoot with a B•B because of it's precision quality inside diameter smooth bore barrel. My Daisy Powerline 35 started to shoot the Daisy PREMIUM Grade zinc coated steel B•B's very accurately aften about 400 rounds. I only shoot B•B in this airgun. I never shoots pellets in it. For hunting crows and rabbits I use my Welbey Rebel .22 caliber pumper airgun that has a 4×32 Bushnell rifle scope on it. It is accurate with good quality 14 grain lead pellets and has a velocity of 700 feet per second with lightweight pellets. Good accuracy up to 40 yards.
I got a 760 on ebay from 1997. It was new old stock. It had the rifled barrel. It's a great shooting little rifle. My 6 year old can pump it to 4 pumps most of the time.
My list 1.Daisy 901 2.Daisy 880 3.Umarex Apx 4.Daisy 35 All of them have a Pinty greed dot,and I shoot crosman domed pellets and Meisterkugln wadcutters. In hand the 880 is the most accurate,followed by the 901 which feels the best.
Oh yeah 880's are underrated for hunting. I wish they'd make one just a little bigger all around with a steel breech that could do 800-900 with a decent pellet.
@@ohshoot444 Travis, I still have the upgraded, higher power 880 that I built and was going to ship to you. Still haven't used it, I really should ship it to you. It is capable of 873fps with 7.4gr. lead pellets. It also has a metal pump arm (from a much older 880).
Crosmans are money pits lol 😂 I’ve six of the bloody things and none are left as they were out the box, I agree the fact they still put plastic breech is ridiculous! But I’d recommend the crosman 2289 backpacker, in 🇬🇧 can’t really get them so have to start with the 13** and then extend the barrel etc. but the 2289 has the quick release button for the stock and wow it’s worth having that! Great video 😊
I made a cool little discovery shooting gel with my pump gun using pellets. there's a particular pellet that I believe is supposed to act as a hollow point i guess it has a tiny dimple and the face is slightly raised like the start of a semi wadcutter. if that's its intended function it don't work, but if loaded backwards will flatten out to about 32cal and penetrate about inch and a half in 10 percent gel. that's an immediate massive energy dump. every other pellet I tried that with just broke apart. I don't play with air guns much these days I got the 10 pump daisy diamond because I was nostalgic that day and it was 30 bucks new and it's what I had as a kid. the only design that would hold up. all the other ended up with a screwdriver jammed in the bolt. I know somebody knows what I'm talking about lol. when I was a kid I took a shot at 1 of my grandparents chickens because I thought it was out of range, it was like 50 yards away with a bb and it died on the spot. I couldn't believe it. bb's are very underrated in my opinion because they will sail.
I like the 2100 better. The metal receiver is better for mounting an optic. The 1000 has a little more power though, but has the plastic receiver. But I normally shoot at 6 to 8 pumps and a good 4x scope on a 2100 is hard to beat. The legacy has the same accuracy and the extra fps doesn't seem to help in my opinion.
This might sound funny but I was thinking on getting a 760 just to shoot BBs through a long smooth-bore. I've started acquiring 4.45mm brass bearings which are a little heavier and thicker than steel BBs. They out perform steel in my pistols AND you can pump those Crosman pumpers over 10 w/out breaking them. ;-]
G'evening from the high desert of Southwest Idaho Travis. The Crosman 13xx has always been one of my favorite airguns. I recently picked up a an all original model 1300 in 22 Cal from 1976 and a matching 1377 in 177 Cal w/ the cocking knob for $120 😇 . Both will be getting breeches, pistons, seals & shoulder stocks 🤓 ..
Agreed on your choices. The 1322 is a great one. Definitely going down some rabbit holes on that. What about the Crosman 362? Basically the same design as the 1322. It's a little more expensive than tour other choices though.
I'm trying not to buy the 362. Shooting the airfoce talon in 177 with just a 12 inch barrel makes it small like a bullpup and very plinkable. Cost comparison in airguns still outweigh s the cost of ammo for center fire and I shoot at home
Agree on the 880 and the 13xx platform! Fun and accurate! What brand optic, have you liked on the 880, Travis? My son has the seneca pumper, and it's a sweet, accurate, shooter! Thanks for sharing, Steve
Good video Brother , I love the daisy 880 it is very accurate , I mounted a aluminum picatinny rail and a cheap Amazon red dot on mine and can easily hit a 1/4 inch group's at 50 ft, which has proven to be extremely effective to rid my small raised garden beds from destructive birds and Rats . even my Wife who had never shot a Gun in her life was able to hit golf ball sized targets easily.
@@ohshoot444 That's funny , I only use air Rifle's , Crossbow's , etc out to around 25 yards beyond that I'll go with 22lr and escalate the right tool for the intended target , I use Crossman Piranha 10.5 GR and can actually get almost as good accuracy with Daisy Premium Grade zinc plated steel shot BB's .
Travis, thanks for all the information you share. Between you and Riddick I've learned a ton in the short amount of time I've been getting back into plinking with air rifles. I couldn't quite make out the name of the site you mentioned about obtaining parts, can you remind me?
Dang bro! Best video i could find. Was looking at picking one of these up but didnt know what to go for. We get massive swarms of toads in rural Arizona and they're the psychedelic kind which really jack up dogs if they bite or lick them and theyre about the size of a softball full grown. Was looking for an air rifle that could cleanly dispatch them without ricochets damaging the outside of my house. A buddy let me borrow his but its got roughly the power of a 22 on a single break action and thats way more than i need plus it's pretty steep over 250 bucks. Would be great for longer distances on things like rabbits but way too much for close quarters toad dispatchin 😂
Try swapping out the guts of the Legacy 1000 with the 2100. The Legacy has a metal piston rod and much better valve. Goes to 12 pumps factory. Tweak the valve, hammer spring, port, etc. Then you have the ultimate 2100.
I had one of those Crossman pistols years ago. Crazy accurate. I could shoot the heads off wasps 40 feet up in trees. My cousin didn`t believe that and a dragonfly landed on a power line and told me to prove it. It came down without a head. So I bought a new one for about 60 bucks. Piece of garbage. Even at close range it was hard to hit bottle caps. I missed every cat that attacked my cat at night. Hate the new one. It`s very hard to pump, half the power of my old one, and honestly my first thought was....they designed this so you can`t hunt with them anymore. New designed traps and several other things I`ve tried out seemed made by animal rights activists to fail....like those God awful jump traps. I made the mistake of buying a bunch of them years ago. Totally useless. A lot of the fancy new air rifles I`ve tried out were wildly inaccurate. I used to successfully hunt ducks on creeks, doves, rabbits, squirrels, and all sorts of things for food with my old Benjamin pumps. Even got a coyote that started trailing me on a squirrel hunt with a Benjamin 22 cal. Dropped him 5 feet away. I also got a Canadian goose once. We had him for Christmas dinner. I mainly used the Benjamins for rabbit control in our gardens and averaged about 500-700 per year, sometimes a lot more. After a disease wiped out coyotes the rabbit population exploded. So each night I`d make a 300 yard loop around the gardens and get what I could. Those Benjamins were amazing.
You got that right. I bought a new 1377 about three years ago and it was terrible! The rear sight mounting screw was drilled off-center, so the sight could not be adjusted enough to get it on target. Also the plastic felt like a plastic model kit toy. Ended up throwing it away about a year later. The only good pump pistol I have is an old Sheridan that I bought back in '89, all wood and brass, very good quality and super accurate. Shoots at 550fps with 8 pumps over my chronograph. Never had any trouble with it. Also have a '72 model Benjamin 342 that I've had for 50 years now. Great rifle and super accurate with open sights.
@@trevorjameson3213 Wild cats were trying to kill my cats and I couldn`t even HIT them with the new Crossman...not once! I wasn`t trying to hurt them so I only pumped it three times. But it`s useless. I don`t even know where it is now and don`t care. It was way under powered compared to the late 1980s version.
WARNING!!! The actual price of the 1377 will skyrocket once you are done with it. Mine has over 200 dollars in upgrades + price of gun . it is very addictive. Mine has a modified arm pin, buck rail moderator and the barrel thread, steel breech, red dot sight, modified transfer port with bushing, a 2.9 pounds trigger spring, foldable stock , a massive picatiny rail with a light. I only use RWS superdomes 8.3 grains. I chrono mine at 747 fps average with 10 pumps thanks to the wider tranfer port, and how the auperdome pellets fit snug , with 2 pumps i go throug walls easy. I love mine but its a pain in the ass to put the pellet in.
My Crosman 766 is much more accurate than my Daisy powerline 880. But both are better than my sharp Innova. Was thinking about purchasing the apx. Looks interesting. I need some new gaskets /o-rings for my old 880 but they are not easy to get in Germany. Any recommendations were to purchase it and also were to get a modulator?
Honestly on the rebuild kits you may just want to call Daisy. The moderators can be found at Buckrail. I’ve got an affiliate link with them if you order from them. I think that’s the only place to get one atm. But you can also get adapters to run it on other airguns.
I`m getting a Daisy 880 as a last (inexpensive, relatively) pest control tool for a demonic armadillo who keeps destroying my food in my garden. I hit him with an old can of beans HARD and he returned before dawn and tried to take out every important plant I had. Getting another cheap driveway alarm too and putting one on each end of the garden. I`m trying to be very friendly with the big rabbits and planted things they like so they`d stop nibbling my beans and okra and the armadillo attacked their lettuce and moringa patch too! A disease reduced the rabbit population so I`m hoping the pair in my yard has babies to harvest next Winter. I want them around as a backup food supply so I try not to scare them much. The driveway alarms are a great hunting assistant.
@@ohshoot444 I think I can get a head shot because my garden is 25 feet from the front door. Either way getting shot with pellets won`t be fun for garden pests. I don`t want to have to do it but I need my garden food. Later on I`m getting something more powerful.
@@ohshoot444 I decided to get a 22 cal break barrel in two weeks. It can do 800 fps with lead and 1000 with alloy in 22 cal so that`s perfect for my needs. I`m glad I have the Daisy though because it`s useful, accurate, and dependable and fun to use. I needed a couple of these things in my prepping arsenal because I`ve never liked using anything dangerous to neighbors several hundred yards away. Plus I night hunt rabbits in Winter and there`s a lot of them this year. I may get that Crossman eventually to have some control over my fps but I need a break barrel for more rapid shots with full power.
Can any of these rifles handle the skirtless slugs made for PCPs, that seem to be sold in 8-18 grains? Not the skirted pellets shaped like badminton birdies.
It would be closer to 100 large if Crosman did offer the steel breach on the 13×× series. The 2240 XL is a good example of it. Blinging my 1322 as we speak.
I do believe Crosman sells an aftermarket rear sight for the steel breach. It's supposed to be more robust than the factory sight on the plastic breach.
I seem to remember, long ago, before they turned the Crosman 760 into a plastic piece of junk, it had a rifled barrel. The old barrels were solid steel. I heard the barrels are now tube in plastic.
Actually the 760 barrels are still blued steel, but smooth bore. The plastics are extremely cheap feeling (not like the robust plastic used on an 880).
I just need 4X1399 Crosman stock for 2x2240 and 1322,1377..Yes 2240 is CO2 but you get 30 decent shots and you can hunt small game.. As for pump rifles I only have Pumpmaster 760 and NXG...Pumpmaster is stronger shooting...
I bought my parts they sent me 880 schematic's,...it looked far more complicated than the 66 or the Classic? 66 and the classic have great sight's. But they have 2 1377's one is $49.00 its normal and one is $59.00 and its faster. Had one as a kid they were OK, But I'd prefer my 66. Looking forward to trying a good value break action gun that has sights.
I tried hunting peeps and even with my squeaky evil black rifle stock 1377 they didn't move after a miss 🐥😁 _I don't hate using the Crosman 13xx/2240 iron sights but adjusting them is a pain._ I sure wished I could try a Daisy 880 tho it really seems like a good budget rifle! Not sure id really get the other ones myself tho maybe a m4 just because the mag is a nice feature! *_Lots of fun for less than 100$!_*
Not sure if that exists other than the seneca aspen. But they had a lot of problems with that rifle. You might be better off going c02 with a chaser or a qb78
Totally agree. Crosman should offer the upgraded barrel for the 760 and stop that awful plastic breech. Why is it the 880 is so cheaply designed and made to handle like a toy but it blows all the crosman away? Plink some soon
Travis, this was a great video that you obviously put some time into, after using the guns that you covered, first. Hate it when someone tries to advise me on something that they haven't used themselves for any appreciable time. Can't argue with anything you said and I own all the guns you covered, some in both calibers. The 880 is a favorite of mine because it pumps so much easier that the others.(you didn't mention that BTW, but I know you know it's true) You were very concise in the criteria that you were using in this video, but if you are willing to go outside that box and consider a more expensive gun that may be even more difficult to work on, but doesn't need to really be modified in the first place, I would recommend the Seneca Aspen. It pumps up to a very high psi, gives an energy level at the muzzle that is capable of taking coyote sized animals, will give multiple follow up shots without re-pumping first, and has a magazine feeding system. Once you get this pumped up initially, you can take several very high powered shots and with 4 or 5 pumps, be back up to the max pressure and ready to fire again at over 25 Ft/Lbs of energy. It isn't as convenient or cheap for backyard plinking, but you also raised the issue of appropriateness for hunting and this gun hits all the marks in that regard. This may be THE ideal survival gun, if you're into that sort of mindset with your purchases. I love mine. If you can get one, I recommend that you do. You may not be able to appreciate its potential until you do.
John I have a Aspen in 22 cal and I love mine ! But as far as pumping it back up only takes 5 pumps per shot ?? Mine takes like 50 pumps per shot to pump back up !!
@@timmy4539 If you have to pump 50 times for each shot you take to get the gun topped back off, I think there's something wrong with your gun. That would mean after taking 10 shots you'd have to pump 500 times to get it full again. My gun only takes about 150 pumps to fill from completely empty to the full 250 bar level. I wouldn't like my gun at all if I had to pump as much as you have to.
@@timmy4539 Tim, if you search on YT for Pyramyd Air Channel's video entitled "Seneca Aspen - correct way to operate the pump" you will see the gun being used as I described in my first comment. Tyler actually only needs 3-4 pumps to replenish for each shot after 3 shots. You are basically trying to fill the gun, to start with, just high enough to give you 3 or 4 shots at the highest power. I don't know how much you know about how the valve works in an unregulated PCP airgun, but the max fill pressure isn't usually where you get the max power out of the gun. It is usually a much lower pressure that will give the highest power shots; the sweet spot. At any rate, once you have figured out what the best pressure is, and that will be pretty hard to do without a chronograph, then you take your 3 or 4 shots and then pump back up to that pressure. It should only take 10-12 pumps, something like that and then you can take 3 or 4 shots again. I treat mine like a regular old one shot multi-pump. Once I get it filled properly I take a shot, pump a few times take a shot, pump a few times, over and over. My shots are very close in velocity that way, just like any multi-pump would be, but man, will they ever be more powerful than any Crosman or Daisies from Walmart and with just a couple of pumps, not 10 -15 like those other guns require. If I shoot an animal and it's a miss or a wounding shot, I can operate the bolt and shoot again and probably do a third shot if I need to and all the shots will be the same velocity. If that happens I pump up the 10 or 12 times and I'm back to the usual routine 1 shot, pump a few. You have a gauge right on the gun to tell you when you get back to the sweet spot. One other thing that I will caution you on and it may be what is causing you to pump so much. The pump is not like a bicycle pump. It is a multi stage pump that is basically 3 pumps pumping from one into the next into the next to get the high pressure. The passages between those pump chambers are very small and the air flows through them slowly. If you recharge the pump handle before all the air from the previous stroke had a chance to pass from its chamber to the next, you wasted half or more of the stroke. I count 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and, with each number and each "and" being about a second apart. Slower really is faster, as weird as that seems. I hope you know that I'm not talking down to you and I understand that you may know these things already, but If you don't or if someone else comes along later and doesn't know I'm just trying to help. Start with that video. It's pretty clear about how the gun should operate.
@@mrhalfstep John that is how I pump the gun and I have seen the video that you're talking about what you have to understand is what I said before I have to pump my gun 40 - 50 times before it even starts to build pressure ! Once it starts to build pressure it's ok but it takes that many pumps to get it going ! It does not matter after how many shots or what the pressure is in the gun I have to pump it that 40 - 50 pumps to get it to start to build pressure again !
I 3d printed a chonky pump forend and it made my 1377 waaaaay better to pump. Not only easier but no more pinching the sh*t out of my hand. Put 14" barrel, fiber optic front sight, steel breech, William's rear peep sight, and oem stock on it. Heck of a awesome super light and packable mini rifle and very accurate
Boss great video ! The only one of the 5 you talked about that I don't have anymore is the 2100 it took a 💩 on me ! 😔 I have something to ask everyone says to store your pumper with one or two pumps in it ! But a lot of pumpers you have to cock to pump and I worry about the spring going bad in it if I leave it cocked !! Your thoughts ?? You should check out the sportsman 800 pumper it's not a bad gun !
@@ohshoot444 I don't know about the crosmans, but I always leave my 880's cocked, but NOT pumped or loaded. This keeps the exhaust valve closed and pressure off the exhaust valve spring, as well as the exhaust port staying sealed shut so stuff can't get in there. I've had issues in the past with 880's not holding air from sitting a long time NOT being cocked. After a few shots the valve would seal again and it was ok. But I think what's happening is the valve spring is not wanting to let the valve close fully when it's left uncocked for a long time. It gets a little sticky.
Sorry for the second comment but talking about the BLACK rifle and unwanted attention…alloy pellets that go super sonic sound like a .22 LR and also draw unwanted attention. Just saying. Quiet is cool don’t be a fool🤷♂️😉
I think the Legacy LOOKS like the Crosman 2100 Classic,.... Classic is some sort of metal a magnet try's to stick to it. A couple days back I rebuilt the Classic,....I tried to assemble it,... nearly all night,.... there's shit in there that don't compute. But it works fine now. Classic says 400 fps- 800 FPS? The Classic's air valve is 1 5/8 in length????? My favorite gun is the 66 Power Master a little over 600 FPS. I rebuilt mine last week. Not as hard as the classic,... Classics build is slightly better. The 66 is a solid gun and very comfortable. A pellet gun is just like a cross bow it needs sight pins at many different range's and all you get is one sight pin for one range. Close your high then your right on then farther your too low. Crossbow scope!
Why do you insist on taking all of them apart? I'm not mad that it took you so long to put them back together. Lol. Btw the crosman 2100 is GARBAGE. Way too hard to pump and the one I had just fell apart.
I searched for "under $100 pellet rifle review". Yours is by far the best review video. Probably gonna get the Daisy 880 based on your review. Gotta thin out the squirrel herd in the back yard. Thanks again.
Check out the Buckrail accessory for it. H and N terminators have done the best for pellets for me and also I like the BSA 4x32ao scopes. Just putting it out there if you’re looking for stuff like that.
@@ohshoot444 I might. Mostly need one for shots within 10 yards though. Thanks for your video.
880 is a good gun for sure, especially if you upgrade the scope.
That's good information for all folks, noob or experienced air rifle fans. I got my first BB gun in the late 1960's, love the hobby and always appreciate other peoples idea's and knowledge. Living in an apartment with limited outdoor opportunity to do some plinking is a challenge, so I built a pellet trap (for indoor shooting), the key is 'Duct Seal Compound" which is almost like thick clay type of substance, it comes in 1lb blocks or packs of multiple, it catches the pellet or BB with zero ricochets, it can be found in the electrical dept at the big box home improvement stores. There are lots of various plans on how to make one on the internet. Thank you Travis.
That's one excellent tip! Thanks man
I had a Crosman 2100 years ago, and I took some 1/2 inch wide foam with adhesive on one side and stuck it on the inside of the pump handle to quiet down that clacking sound every time you pumped it. It wasn't weather striping it was a denser foam than that. Something I picked up at the hardware store. It quieted it down quite a bit.
Great video, lots of good details! Can you tell me what one has more power, the Umarex NXG, or the Daisy 880. I like to shoot steel coffee cans for my targets using bbs.
The 880 has more power. But if you can find a 1977xs, it’s a souped up 880. But they tend to need maintenance after a few thousand shots. The 880 is my pick.
I've had my 2100 for over 30 years. It's been great fun year after year. My son and I put new seals in as it eventually needed them and it's still going strong. (Yes, its fiddly but there's TH-cam videos to help) works great at 25 yards, hits steel consistently at 45 yards and we can hit at 55 if the target is big enough. Love it
I've had my Daisy 901. S for about 10 years. It's solid and reliable. Never let me down.
Thanks Travis, the Daisy 901 is going to be my next budget purchase.I was considering the Legacy but I think the 901 just might be better. The 880 will be my #1 always
I love my 880, put by a nose, my 901 has surpassed it. Most of all because of it's heavier, sturdier build, but it still has the plastic bolt handle.
@@davidlinscheid2321 Thank you for the info, it's the 901 for my next purchase then for sure. Much appreciated 🙏👍
Yeah I'd go 901 out of those two for sure, unless you're just wanting a different gun. I never got the 1000 I had to shoot good.
The Winchester 1977xs is awesome too , basically a slightly different looking 880 on steroids lol ..I get 900fps with daisy pointed lead pellets out of it 😳 not to shabby for a multipump and very accurate scoped
The 901 is my favorite pumper.
The 880 is a great kids gun especially for ease of pumping and the money. 40$ is awesome and if you put pellets in it and a 4X32 light weight scope…those kids won’t miss much out to 30-40 yards. Take the front plastic site off and wrap a piece of Scotch tape to snug it up inside the front site. You will increase the accuracy by about 25%. Hope this helps. Great info bud. Thanks.
That was an excellent pellet gun in the mid 90s and the best you could get off the shelf at Walmart. They totally turned them into trash around 2000 or so couldn't believe how bad they ruined that thing, went from the absolute best to making a red rider look like a target rifle. I hope they went back like they were originally.
Got my 1377 on clearance at walmart for $25 because I had one waaaay back in the day and thought it would be fun. Was kinda bummed out because it was all plastic... my old one was all wood and metal with a weird slide open breech instead of a tiny bolt handle.
Definitely better built back then.
But of course I found the mods and have built it to a mini rifle and its awesome now. 14" barrel, steel breech, fiber front sight, rear peep sight, oem stock and I printed fatty pump forend.
Totally different beast now lol
On the defense of Crosman 760 smooth bore. I have a reservations shooting steel BB's in a rifled barrel. All this Winter, I shot my 760 (3 pumps/shot only) with Crosman Copperhead BB's shooting small bore targets printed on 65lb cardstock. This combination is very inexpensive and allows lots of practice. I ditched the small Crosman 4x scope in favor of a red dot which allows fine sight adjustment with easier single BB loading. I shoot my Crosman 2100 Classic with pellets only just to be gentler on the rifled barrel bore.
I can’t remember the channel. But he was using his newer 760 as an indoor plinker and I can see it being a great gun for that. I just wish they offered a rifled so that I could use hunting with my kids.
Speaking of rabbit hole... I bought my son a red ryder for Christmas. Since then I picked up a Crosman 1377, 1322, and a browning buck mark for myself. Now you've got me seriously considering a daisy 880. I feel like I'm too old to be buying bb guns.
I love the crosman 13xx,but like you said, i despise the plastic breech and the rear sight. I don't like how the rear sight sticks way up and gets snagged on everything. I have to re-adjust it every time I get it out. The steel breech and the rear sight are pretty pricey.
NEVER too old to buy BB guns!
Hey Travis,
As always, another excellent video!
I'm just getting around to watching it again, and only now able to comment.
First of all, thanks once again for mentioning accuracy and adequate power for humane hunting and harvesting!!!
You really stressed respect for life even if you are taking it, and not letting an animal suffer needlessly.
Kudos to you. You really help me by reinforcing what I intend to teach my kids.
Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.
I have bagged squirrel with a Crossman 760 with BB's and 5 pumps, but only at close range. The two guns me and my buddies had when I was a kid were the early 80's Crossman 760 and Daisy 880. The Crossman shot BB's way better, the Daisy shot pellets way better. Rifled vs Smoothbore barrels I guess... Kids liked rolling with BB's because of easy reload, so to me the Crossman was king. I know I made out to 30 yard shots on birds with the Crossman with BB's as a kid. Now as an adult I bought two vintage early 80's 760's and I have a new Daisy 880. The Daisy throws BB's everywhere, Crossman even with iron sights I can shoot a great group with BB's out to about 10-15 yards. So, just for plinking and maybe closer range small pest control BB's are fine. Any type of hunting outside of 15 yards and in I would go with .22 pellets like my Gammo Swarm. (kickass 10rd pellet mag as well)
You can put adhesive backed foam tape where the pump handle closes to quiet pumping them up on Crossman air rifles.
The Chinese make a plastic breech that works well for the 1322 2240 family , it's not obvious that it's plastic it has same dimensions as the steel breeches , the negative I can say about it is when it came it had a lot of scratches from being in a bin with tons of other breeches , a simple scuffing with a green scrubber will take all the scratches out and I can say it works well at 25 percent of the weight of the steel breeches .
All I'm saying is Crosman could do the same as OEM .
Nice list , I agree although I havnt owned some of the guns you mentioned , I definitely had an 880 and a Legacy , currently own the 1322 converted from a 1377 , it was 44 bucks so I couldn't resist .
I saw you hit 3k in Subs , way to be man keep the vids coming , wouldn't it be great to email Pyramid tell them about your channel and get some free stuff .
Where do you find the chinese breech?
The Crossman 760 seemed to make a lot of sense for the kids killing paper and soda cans with bb's, but I found out that the break very easily where the stock meets the receiver. Too bad, because they are very handy, easy to load bb's and pellets, accurate enough to drill soda cans at 10 yards, and made in the US. I'm trying out the Powerline 35 now to see if it will hold up better. If crossman fixes their weak design, then I'll go back to the 760
For budget squirrel pellet guns I'd say, Daisy 880 pump gun under a $100 is best way to go, then for around $110 the Crosman Vantage break barrel is good choice, then from there one of the budget pcp options for around $200-300
Is the 880 enough for cotton tails?
Slap a 24-inch Barrel on mine I gained a little over 100 ft per second my 177 pushes about 8 ft pounds of energy and the 22 version if I remember is right around 10
I started building stocks for airguns 20 years ago, because I am left handed I was just thinking I would like to buy a 2100 or 880 and build a nice figured maple stock for it.
I built a wooden stock and forearm(pump arm) for my 2100 several years ago. It makes a huge difference in how it feels and looks!
I liked the Remington 66. Back in the day. Was a great gun. Over 650 fps would trust it for wilderness hiking. Plenty of power and accuracy. The older Crosman 760s were way better than newer 760s. Easier to pump short plastic hand grips on older 760 s pumping handle made pumping easier
I'm not a huge pneumatic fan but I will probably get one of those Seneca Dragonfly's at some point. I do have the Crosman Legacy and I find it hard to pump towards the end and the tiny pellet port doesn't like my sausage fingers.
I got the mk2 and its pretty awesome. 1 pump all the way to 15 is the same. Accurate and has irons and threaded barrel... really nothing I'd change other than make it slightly more powerful
Excellent video, Travis.
I am a big 880 fan, as you know, but I think you may well become a big 901 fan after you get one, as I have become.
Yes, the moderators for the 880, that also fit the 901, have made a huge difference for my back yard plinking. I also think the 901 is easier to load.
Sorry, so may comments I make on your videos includes a reference to the Daisy 880 and/or the 901. Thank you for stating "you get it." :)
I do get it
Great job Travis. Nice choices Crosman made a 760D with rifled barrel at about 70. Were available until 2019 on Am. azon.
Got me G Man!!
Got me to Gman !
Wish they'd still sell a rifled barrel version
@@randyhardy3692 The M4 177 rifle
My favorite airgun for shooting with a B•B is the Daisy Powerline 35 model. It shoots really accurate at realistic ranges of up to 25 yards, etc. It is accurate to shoot with a B•B because of it's precision quality inside diameter smooth bore barrel.
My Daisy Powerline 35 started to shoot the Daisy PREMIUM Grade zinc coated steel B•B's very accurately aften about 400 rounds. I only shoot B•B in this airgun. I never shoots pellets in it.
For hunting crows and rabbits I use my Welbey Rebel .22 caliber pumper airgun that has a 4×32 Bushnell rifle scope on it. It is accurate with good quality 14 grain lead pellets and has a velocity of 700 feet per second with lightweight pellets. Good accuracy up to 40 yards.
I’ve honestly always stayed away from smooth bore guns. But I may have to get one and check it out.
I got a 760 on ebay from 1997. It was new old stock. It had the rifled barrel. It's a great shooting little rifle. My 6 year old can pump it to 4 pumps most of the time.
I’ve been looking for one of those for a while, with the clip too.
Ever try one of those Barra 1866's? They are supposed to be pretty nice.
Jackalope I've got a 1866 and love it ! I'm getting over 800 fps with it and at 15 yards it's dead nuts with the Crossman destroyers !
I haven't. I've heard good things too.
@@ohshoot444 I just ordered one for popps and giggles so we shall see here shortly.
My list
1.Daisy 901
2.Daisy 880
3.Umarex Apx
4.Daisy 35
All of them have a Pinty greed dot,and I shoot crosman domed pellets and Meisterkugln wadcutters.
In hand the 880 is the most accurate,followed by the 901 which feels the best.
I have the umarex .i don’t have a crosman 1377 yet but he is on my list.nice video again 👍😉
1377 is awesome I have one
Daisy 880s work for rabbits within 20 yards. I have done it.😊
Oh yeah 880's are underrated for hunting. I wish they'd make one just a little bigger all around with a steel breech that could do 800-900 with a decent pellet.
@@ohshoot444 Even with Chinese manufacturing, the price would be high enough you'd might as well buy a Benjamin pumper.
@@ohshoot444 Travis, I still have the upgraded, higher power 880 that I built and was going to ship to you. Still haven't used it, I really should ship it to you. It is capable of 873fps with 7.4gr. lead pellets. It also has a metal pump arm (from a much older 880).
I just bought a Winchester 1977 XS from Academy. A bump up from the Daisy 880. You should make a review on that one. Great channel.
I have that rifle and it's a Beast
Crosmans are money pits lol 😂 I’ve six of the bloody things and none are left as they were out the box, I agree the fact they still put plastic breech is ridiculous! But I’d recommend the crosman 2289 backpacker, in 🇬🇧 can’t really get them so have to start with the 13** and then extend the barrel etc. but the 2289 has the quick release button for the stock and wow it’s worth having that!
Great video 😊
13xx is definitely the best air gun ever made
Is it worth adding in my collection?
@@pricelessppp HECK YEAH U CAN MOD THEM TO NO END👍👍
@First State Airgun It looks like the cheapest to plink with till I save for a new compressor!
Got me again 🍕 boy !!!
@@timmy4539 pizza boy away but I said it like a superhero
I made a cool little discovery shooting gel with my pump gun using pellets. there's a particular pellet that I believe is supposed to act as a hollow point i guess it has a tiny dimple and the face is slightly raised like the start of a semi wadcutter. if that's its intended function it don't work, but if loaded backwards will flatten out to about 32cal and penetrate about inch and a half in 10 percent gel. that's an immediate massive energy dump. every other pellet I tried that with just broke apart. I don't play with air guns much these days I got the 10 pump daisy diamond because I was nostalgic that day and it was 30 bucks new and it's what I had as a kid. the only design that would hold up. all the other ended up with a screwdriver jammed in the bolt. I know somebody knows what I'm talking about lol. when I was a kid I took a shot at 1 of my grandparents chickens because I thought it was out of range, it was like 50 yards away with a bb and it died on the spot. I couldn't believe it. bb's are very underrated in my opinion because they will sail.
Maybe I need to try some JB Weld on my Umarex NXG APX to strengthen that scope rail. Have you done anything like that?
BTW good recommendations 🙂👍.
I used adapters and torqued the to 10 in-lbs.
I’m looking to buy either the 2100 or legacy, which one do you think I should buy?
I like the 2100 better. The metal receiver is better for mounting an optic. The 1000 has a little more power though, but has the plastic receiver. But I normally shoot at 6 to 8 pumps and a good 4x scope on a 2100 is hard to beat. The legacy has the same accuracy and the extra fps doesn't seem to help in my opinion.
@@ohshoot444 thank you
I have all of those except the umarex.good choices
This might sound funny but I was thinking on getting a 760 just to shoot BBs through a long smooth-bore. I've started acquiring 4.45mm brass bearings which are a little heavier and thicker than steel BBs. They out perform steel in my pistols AND you can pump those Crosman pumpers over 10 w/out breaking them. ;-]
G'evening from the high desert of Southwest Idaho Travis. The Crosman 13xx has always been one of my favorite airguns. I recently picked up a an all original model 1300 in 22 Cal from 1976 and a matching 1377 in 177 Cal w/ the cocking knob for $120 😇 . Both will be getting breeches, pistons, seals & shoulder stocks 🤓 ..
Agreed on your choices. The 1322 is a great one. Definitely going down some rabbit holes on that. What about the Crosman 362? Basically the same design as the 1322. It's a little more expensive than tour other choices though.
I was trying to keep it under $100. I should've mentioned that in the video. I did that thing where I thought it but didn't say it lol
I'm trying not to buy the 362. Shooting the airfoce talon in 177 with just a 12 inch barrel makes it small like a bullpup and very plinkable. Cost comparison in airguns still outweigh s the cost of ammo for center fire and I shoot at home
1377***
Agree on the 880 and the 13xx platform! Fun and accurate!
What brand optic, have you liked on the 880, Travis?
My son has the seneca pumper, and it's a sweet, accurate, shooter!
Thanks for sharing,
Steve
Love the 880! Want a pistol grip feel so might get a 13xx.
On the 880 the Winchester 4x32 ao is about perfect. I've used the simmons 22 mag scopes a lot too.
@@ohshoot444 Thanks Travis,
Good shootin to ya!
Steve
Disagree on the 880. I had an old one which I loved. I also bought a newer 880 and thought I'd like it but they cheaped it out.....just terrible.
I have a soft spot for the 2100. Many childhood years spent plinking and roaming the woods thinking I was cool with my 2100 😎🍻
I may pick up another one of those.
Good video Brother , I love the daisy 880 it is very accurate , I mounted a aluminum picatinny rail and a cheap Amazon red dot on mine and can easily hit a 1/4 inch group's at 50 ft, which has proven to be extremely effective to rid my small raised garden beds from destructive birds and Rats . even my Wife who had never shot a Gun in her life was able to hit golf ball sized targets easily.
I read that first as 50 yards lol. It is a great air rifle for sure. Thanks for the comment. What pellet do you shoot?
@@ohshoot444 That's funny , I only use air Rifle's , Crossbow's , etc out to around 25 yards beyond that I'll go with 22lr and escalate the right tool for the intended target , I use Crossman Piranha 10.5 GR and can actually get almost as good accuracy with Daisy Premium Grade zinc plated steel shot BB's .
Travis, thanks for all the information you share. Between you and Riddick I've learned a ton in the short amount of time I've been getting back into plinking with air rifles. I couldn't quite make out the name of the site you mentioned about obtaining parts, can you remind me?
Buckrail. Thanks for the comment!
@@ohshoot444 I just got a Crpsman Vantage in .177, they made me an offer I couldn't refuse. :)
You should try the Barra 1866, a very nice option.
1377 and 880
Dang bro! Best video i could find. Was looking at picking one of these up but didnt know what to go for. We get massive swarms of toads in rural Arizona and they're the psychedelic kind which really jack up dogs if they bite or lick them and theyre about the size of a softball full grown. Was looking for an air rifle that could cleanly dispatch them without ricochets damaging the outside of my house. A buddy let me borrow his but its got roughly the power of a 22 on a single break action and thats way more than i need plus it's pretty steep over 250 bucks. Would be great for longer distances on things like rabbits but way too much for close quarters toad dispatchin 😂
880 with h and n terminators
Try swapping out the guts of the Legacy 1000 with the 2100. The Legacy has a metal piston rod and much better valve. Goes to 12 pumps factory. Tweak the valve, hammer spring, port, etc. Then you have the ultimate 2100.
Thank you, good useful info. Will probably get the 880 on your review
Daisy 880 is great. Also pro tip, if your black rifle looks too scary just spray paint it 😂
Crossman makes a steel dovetailed breach for the 1377 and the 1322
On my crossman legacy I took off the scope and put a laser on the front with a hose clamp sighted at 40 yards. Works great
I really have been tempted by the 880 for a long time.
I had one of those Crossman pistols years ago. Crazy accurate. I could shoot the heads off wasps 40 feet up in trees. My cousin didn`t believe that and a dragonfly landed on a power line and told me to prove it. It came down without a head. So I bought a new one for about 60 bucks. Piece of garbage. Even at close range it was hard to hit bottle caps. I missed every cat that attacked my cat at night. Hate the new one. It`s very hard to pump, half the power of my old one, and honestly my first thought was....they designed this so you can`t hunt with them anymore. New designed traps and several other things I`ve tried out seemed made by animal rights activists to fail....like those God awful jump traps. I made the mistake of buying a bunch of them years ago. Totally useless. A lot of the fancy new air rifles I`ve tried out were wildly inaccurate. I used to successfully hunt ducks on creeks, doves, rabbits, squirrels, and all sorts of things for food with my old Benjamin pumps. Even got a coyote that started trailing me on a squirrel hunt with a Benjamin 22 cal. Dropped him 5 feet away. I also got a Canadian goose once. We had him for Christmas dinner. I mainly used the Benjamins for rabbit control in our gardens and averaged about 500-700 per year, sometimes a lot more. After a disease wiped out coyotes the rabbit population exploded. So each night I`d make a 300 yard loop around the gardens and get what I could. Those Benjamins were amazing.
You got that right. I bought a new 1377 about three years ago and it was terrible! The rear sight mounting screw was drilled off-center, so the sight could not be adjusted enough to get it on target. Also the plastic felt like a plastic model kit toy. Ended up throwing it away about a year later. The only good pump pistol I have is an old Sheridan that I bought back in '89, all wood and brass, very good quality and super accurate. Shoots at 550fps with 8 pumps over my chronograph. Never had any trouble with it. Also have a '72 model Benjamin 342 that I've had for 50 years now. Great rifle and super accurate with open sights.
@@trevorjameson3213 Wild cats were trying to kill my cats and I couldn`t even HIT them with the new Crossman...not once! I wasn`t trying to hurt them so I only pumped it three times. But it`s useless. I don`t even know where it is now and don`t care. It was way under powered compared to the late 1980s version.
WARNING!!! The actual price of the 1377 will skyrocket once you are done with it. Mine has over 200 dollars in upgrades + price of gun . it is very addictive. Mine has a modified arm pin, buck rail moderator and the barrel thread, steel breech, red dot sight, modified transfer port with bushing, a 2.9 pounds trigger spring, foldable stock , a massive picatiny rail with a light. I only use RWS superdomes 8.3 grains. I chrono mine at 747 fps average with 10 pumps thanks to the wider tranfer port, and how the auperdome pellets fit snug , with 2 pumps i go throug walls easy. I love mine but its a pain in the ass to put the pellet in.
How bout the winchester 1977 xs basically an 880 on steroids
I've never owned one of those. I should've mentioned it with the 880 though.
Around extra 90-100fps still same accuracy
My Crosman 766 is much more accurate than my Daisy powerline 880. But both are better than my sharp Innova. Was thinking about purchasing the apx. Looks interesting.
I need some new gaskets /o-rings for my old 880 but they are not easy to get in Germany. Any recommendations were to purchase it and also were to get a modulator?
Honestly on the rebuild kits you may just want to call Daisy. The moderators can be found at Buckrail. I’ve got an affiliate link with them if you order from them. I think that’s the only place to get one atm. But you can also get adapters to run it on other airguns.
I`m getting a Daisy 880 as a last (inexpensive, relatively) pest control tool for a demonic armadillo who keeps destroying my food in my garden. I hit him with an old can of beans HARD and he returned before dawn and tried to take out every important plant I had. Getting another cheap driveway alarm too and putting one on each end of the garden. I`m trying to be very friendly with the big rabbits and planted things they like so they`d stop nibbling my beans and okra and the armadillo attacked their lettuce and moringa patch too! A disease reduced the rabbit population so I`m hoping the pair in my yard has babies to harvest next Winter. I want them around as a backup food supply so I try not to scare them much. The driveway alarms are a great hunting assistant.
You may want to check out the crosman 262 for armadillo, unless you're just trying to coax it away.
@@ohshoot444 I think I can get a head shot because my garden is 25 feet from the front door. Either way getting shot with pellets won`t be fun for garden pests. I don`t want to have to do it but I need my garden food. Later on I`m getting something more powerful.
@@ohshoot444 I decided to get a 22 cal break barrel in two weeks. It can do 800 fps with lead and 1000 with alloy in 22 cal so that`s perfect for my needs. I`m glad I have the Daisy though because it`s useful, accurate, and dependable and fun to use. I needed a couple of these things in my prepping arsenal because I`ve never liked using anything dangerous to neighbors several hundred yards away. Plus I night hunt rabbits in Winter and there`s a lot of them this year. I may get that Crossman eventually to have some control over my fps but I need a break barrel for more rapid shots with full power.
Can any of these rifles handle the skirtless slugs made for PCPs, that seem to be sold in 8-18 grains? Not the skirted pellets shaped like badminton birdies.
Maybe some of the lighter ones. You may have to modify the barrel to be able to seat slugs.
@@ohshoot444 I was specifically thinking of trying 8.5gr slugs, in the Daisy 880 or 882, which are still made by a couple of companies.
Good information 😊
Wish they made an older style that doesnt break because of plastic.
It would be closer to 100 large if Crosman did offer the steel breach on the 13×× series. The 2240 XL is a good example of it. Blinging my 1322 as we speak.
Steel breech that can accept a rear factory sight also!
I do believe Crosman sells an aftermarket rear sight for the steel breach. It's supposed to be more robust than the factory sight on the plastic breach.
All good choices. Thanks Travis.
I had a 880 30 years ago. Very accurate with BB'S. The one I have that is 10 years old. It sucks. Bad. Using pellets barely makes it better
Have you bought one in the last couple years? They’re hard to beat now.
I seem to remember, long ago, before they turned the Crosman 760 into a plastic piece of junk, it had a rifled barrel. The old barrels were solid steel. I heard the barrels are now tube in plastic.
Actually the 760 barrels are still blued steel, but smooth bore. The plastics are extremely cheap feeling (not like the robust plastic used on an 880).
I just need 4X1399 Crosman stock for 2x2240 and 1322,1377..Yes 2240 is CO2 but you get 30 decent shots and you can hunt small game..
As for pump rifles I only have Pumpmaster 760 and NXG...Pumpmaster is stronger shooting...
I actually love my legacy 1,000 tons of power and pretty good accuracy
I love my daisy 880 because you can load 7 in the chamber and still have great velocity 😅
Down fall is you can't aim down and your .177s fall out the hole 😅 then ur left with 3 in the magnet chamber
U can load up to 10
@@Chronicrockstar Dang!!!👍👍
@@Chronicrockstar 😂😂👍👍
I actually just got an nxg apx and it is accurate little thing. I am digging it!
Jason my friend how you doing ?
@Timmy Hey man! Not to bad. I hope you are doing better my friend!
@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 I'm working on it but no promises ! Lol
I bought my parts they sent me 880 schematic's,...it looked far more complicated than the 66 or the Classic?
66 and the classic have great sight's.
But they have 2 1377's one is $49.00 its normal and one is $59.00 and its faster.
Had one as a kid they were OK, But I'd prefer my 66.
Looking forward to trying a good value break action gun that has sights.
I tried hunting peeps and even with my squeaky evil black rifle stock 1377 they didn't move after a miss 🐥😁
_I don't hate using the Crosman 13xx/2240 iron sights but adjusting them is a pain._
I sure wished I could try a Daisy 880 tho it really seems like a good budget rifle!
Not sure id really get the other ones myself tho maybe a m4 just because the mag is a nice feature!
*_Lots of fun for less than 100$!_*
Great info!! Thank you very Much
Glad you enjoyed it!
Are there any multi-shot air rifles you recommend? Trying to find something I pump a couple times then shoot 3+ times before pumping again.
Not sure if that exists other than the seneca aspen. But they had a lot of problems with that rifle. You might be better off going c02 with a chaser or a qb78
I know you're kinda new to airguns. Have you ever looked up any info on AIRGUN ACADEMY? They disagree with you on some things.
I don't really want to argue with you man.
I mis-spoke. It's closer to 35 Ft/Lbs of energy, depending on the pellet.
Totally agree. Crosman should offer the upgraded barrel for the 760 and stop that awful plastic breech. Why is it the 880 is so cheaply designed and made to handle like a toy but it blows all the crosman away? Plink some soon
The 880 barrels are much more consistent.
Travis, this was a great video that you obviously put some time into, after using the guns that you covered, first. Hate it when someone tries to advise me on something that they haven't used themselves for any appreciable time. Can't argue with anything you said and I own all the guns you covered, some in both calibers. The 880 is a favorite of mine because it pumps so much easier that the others.(you didn't mention that BTW, but I know you know it's true)
You were very concise in the criteria that you were using in this video, but if you are willing to go outside that box and consider a more expensive gun that may be even more difficult to work on, but doesn't need to really be modified in the first place, I would recommend the Seneca Aspen. It pumps up to a very high psi, gives an energy level at the muzzle that is capable of taking coyote sized animals, will give multiple follow up shots without re-pumping first, and has a magazine feeding system. Once you get this pumped up initially, you can take several very high powered shots and with 4 or 5 pumps, be back up to the max pressure and ready to fire again at over 25 Ft/Lbs of energy. It isn't as convenient or cheap for backyard plinking, but you also raised the issue of appropriateness for hunting and this gun hits all the marks in that regard. This may be THE ideal survival gun, if you're into that sort of mindset with your purchases. I love mine. If you can get one, I recommend that you do. You may not be able to appreciate its potential until you do.
John I have a Aspen in 22 cal and I love mine ! But as far as pumping it back up only takes 5 pumps per shot ?? Mine takes like 50 pumps per shot to pump back up !!
@@timmy4539 If you have to pump 50 times for each shot you take to get the gun topped back off, I think there's something wrong with your gun. That would mean after taking 10 shots you'd have to pump 500 times to get it full again. My gun only takes about 150 pumps to fill from completely empty to the full 250 bar level. I wouldn't like my gun at all if I had to pump as much as you have to.
@@mrhalfstep I have to pump mine like 50 - 60 pumps before it starts to build air ! The guys at air Venturi told me that that's normal !
@@timmy4539 Tim, if you search on YT for Pyramyd Air Channel's video entitled "Seneca Aspen - correct way to operate the pump" you will see the gun being used as I described in my first comment. Tyler actually only needs 3-4 pumps to replenish for each shot after 3 shots. You are basically trying to fill the gun, to start with, just high enough to give you 3 or 4 shots at the highest power. I don't know how much you know about how the valve works in an unregulated PCP airgun, but the max fill pressure isn't usually where you get the max power out of the gun. It is usually a much lower pressure that will give the highest power shots; the sweet spot. At any rate, once you have figured out what the best pressure is, and that will be pretty hard to do without a chronograph, then you take your 3 or 4 shots and then pump back up to that pressure. It should only take 10-12 pumps, something like that and then you can take 3 or 4 shots again. I treat mine like a regular old one shot multi-pump. Once I get it filled properly I take a shot, pump a few times take a shot, pump a few times, over and over. My shots are very close in velocity that way, just like any multi-pump would be, but man, will they ever be more powerful than any Crosman or Daisies from Walmart and with just a couple of pumps, not 10 -15 like those other guns require. If I shoot an animal and it's a miss or a wounding shot, I can operate the bolt and shoot again and probably do a third shot if I need to and all the shots will be the same velocity. If that happens I pump up the 10 or 12 times and I'm back to the usual routine 1 shot, pump a few. You have a gauge right on the gun to tell you when you get back to the sweet spot. One other thing that I will caution you on and it may be what is causing you to pump so much. The pump is not like a bicycle pump. It is a multi stage pump that is basically 3 pumps pumping from one into the next into the next to get the high pressure. The passages between those pump chambers are very small and the air flows through them slowly. If you recharge the pump handle before all the air from the previous stroke had a chance to pass from its chamber to the next, you wasted half or more of the stroke. I count 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and, with each number and each "and" being about a second apart. Slower really is faster, as weird as that seems. I hope you know that I'm not talking down to you and I understand that you may know these things already, but If you don't or if someone else comes along later and doesn't know I'm just trying to help. Start with that video. It's pretty clear about how the gun should operate.
@@mrhalfstep
John that is how I pump the gun and I have seen the video that you're talking about what you have to understand is what I said before I have to pump my gun 40 - 50 times before it even starts to build pressure ! Once it starts to build pressure it's ok but it takes that many pumps to get it going ! It does not matter after how many shots or what the pressure is in the gun I have to pump it that
40 - 50 pumps to get it to start to build pressure again !
Two words Crosman 362.
5lbs and 14fpe. Right around $100.
Thanks Man
They got longer barrel 1322's called the drifter also can accept 2240 barrels. I've been wondering if they're easy to pump up like the daisy 880?
The 1322 isn't as easy
I 3d printed a chonky pump forend and it made my 1377 waaaaay better to pump. Not only easier but no more pinching the sh*t out of my hand.
Put 14" barrel, fiber optic front sight, steel breech, William's rear peep sight, and oem stock on it. Heck of a awesome super light and packable mini rifle and very accurate
1322, the money pit of airguns. 🤑
Yep i agree with you
Muy buen video bien explicado amigo 😊😊😊
Boss great video ! The only one of the 5 you talked about that I don't have anymore is the 2100 it took a 💩 on me ! 😔
I have something to ask everyone says to store your pumper with one or two pumps in it ! But a lot of pumpers you have to cock to pump and I worry about the spring going bad in it if I leave it cocked !! Your thoughts ?? You should check out the sportsman 800 pumper it's not a bad gun !
I do leave them with a pump or two in there. Don't think it matters a ton though. I've never thought of the spring though.
@@ohshoot444 I don't know about the crosmans, but I always leave my 880's cocked, but NOT pumped or loaded. This keeps the exhaust valve closed and pressure off the exhaust valve spring, as well as the exhaust port staying sealed shut so stuff can't get in there. I've had issues in the past with 880's not holding air from sitting a long time NOT being cocked. After a few shots the valve would seal again and it was ok. But I think what's happening is the valve spring is not wanting to let the valve close fully when it's left uncocked for a long time. It gets a little sticky.
Crossman 1377 is lil finicky but great pistol
Great video I enjoyed It!
Thanks!
Crosman Legacy .177 under $90!
Lol I am sure I have purchased at least two of every air rifle I have ever owned, just for parts lol
Are multipumps or break barrels generally quieter?
Multi pumps are quieter.
Great Video!!
Thanks!
I have a crossman T38 22cal CO2 pistol but I fear it won't be powerful enough for small game.
Yeah that would be tough. The Crosman 362 is probably going to be the best option for you.
Croseman legacy want too bad if modify the barrel but is awfully beastly to work on the umerex nag you got to me is still going after afew years
And 10 shot groups at 50 yards.
Sorry for the second comment but talking about the BLACK rifle and unwanted attention…alloy pellets that go super sonic sound like a .22 LR and also draw unwanted attention. Just saying. Quiet is cool don’t be a fool🤷♂️😉
I think the Legacy LOOKS like the Crosman 2100 Classic,.... Classic is some sort of metal a magnet try's to stick to it.
A couple days back I rebuilt the Classic,....I tried to assemble it,... nearly all night,.... there's shit in there that don't compute.
But it works fine now. Classic says 400 fps- 800 FPS?
The Classic's air valve is 1 5/8 in length?????
My favorite gun is the 66 Power Master a little over 600 FPS.
I rebuilt mine last week.
Not as hard as the classic,... Classics build is slightly better.
The 66 is a solid gun and very comfortable.
A pellet gun is just like a cross bow it needs sight pins at many different range's and all you get is one sight pin for one range. Close your high then your right on then farther your too low. Crossbow scope!
Old 880 = great
New 880 = terrible
I've owned both
how to order sir
There’s many places to order these from. I can’t share sites like that on TH-cam.
Why do you insist on taking all of them apart? I'm not mad that it took you so long to put them back together. Lol. Btw the crosman 2100 is GARBAGE. Way too hard to pump and the one I had just fell apart.
Mostly because I like to. Thanks for asking.
@@ohshoot444 Ok.