A Great Reset without the Conspiracy / Paul Kingsnorth Ep. 013

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  • Finally, a rational discussion about a great reset that isn’t full of conspiracy. If neoliberalism removes our national identity and shared stories of who we are, could this be the root of our culture and identity politics today? Is silicon transcendence our new answer to climate change and all our ills?
    Author & intellectual thinker Paul Kingsnorth joins us today to discuss these deep and wide ranging topics.
    The Empire's New Clothes is a Podcast & TH-cam series examining the cyclical forces that make and break empires. We’ll try to answer the big questions of how we got here as a society and tease out what’s coming next. Episodes drop every Monday.
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ความคิดเห็น • 633

  • @devinreed5725
    @devinreed5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This guy says all the things I feel but can't express.

  • @markbrock8662
    @markbrock8662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Living more simply and self-sufficiently is a very powerful force against the 'machine'
    I have to agree. Good things happen locally

    • @1960ARC
      @1960ARC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think this is the key. They want us dependent on the state. We need to be dependent on ourselves and each other.

    • @thegroove2000
      @thegroove2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1960ARC And grab your self defence weapons.

    • @1960ARC
      @1960ARC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thegroove2000 I think I would, but I live in the UK, never even held a gun. But please never give up your guns!

    • @thegroove2000
      @thegroove2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@1960ARC The armed police protect those charlatons/usurpers in westminster so I can protect ones self. Its only fair.

    • @stellaq3306
      @stellaq3306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are parallel communities being created globally as we speak

  • @heo427
    @heo427 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of the best conversations I have heard in 10+ years. No emotive language, just a solid discussion - I will listen to this many times over to extract the wisdom.
    Thank you so much.
    p.s. love to everyone, whether I agree with you or not ;)

  • @joethestack3894
    @joethestack3894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    For years after reading or watching the news I would get a feeling that we were collectively living out Aesop's fable of The Emperor's New Clothes. There are things staring everyone in the face that nobody is willing to talk about, or for which there is a false narrative that everyone appears to accept. I hope this channel grows.

  • @oftbanned101
    @oftbanned101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a fellow Irishman (he's one of us now!) I can say, as a people we are closer to the land and so nature, than most. Outside of Dublin (not really part of Ireland: ouch!) The next biggest city is a town: Cork with 150k population. We all seem to have 'country' cousins who farm or homestead and with only 6m on the island we're pretty close to nature geographically as well. Paul is a real revelation though: a whole new insight into a vague feeling we all have of increasing disconnectedness. As a theist and very sporitual (though not religious) person I cannot but feel immense pity for all the atheists out there who are utterly lost: desperately looking for meaning in all the wrong places. God bless their hopeless quest!

    • @mkkrupp2462
      @mkkrupp2462 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Religion offers meaning, moral guidance, certainties in an uncertain and complex world and the possibility of an afterlife. It can provide a sense of tradition, community and even a sense of moral superiority.
      So it’s good for one’s psychological health.
      Even if it’s all based on fantasy …

  • @chrisspezowka8417
    @chrisspezowka8417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. This guy Paul knows what’s up.

  • @EberHampton
    @EberHampton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for letting us listen-in.

  • @sstarjoyy
    @sstarjoyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Imagine being a young person and feeling this too. And not having a place in society to be able to be able in.
    The only way the old world dies is by letting it atrophy: go local. Go local. Go local. When you travel, go local over there.

    • @badnomad357
      @badnomad357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think this is it. What most wanting this change is what it means. It means most of us have to die. The green movement is mostly about letting people down easy that they need to go away. Civilization and tech has allowed humans to thrive and populate. Or without that support system overpopulate.. I just watched the system keep an old man alive well past his ability to sustain. Even a decent sized community could only "allow" a few such people.. then at the very end there was oxygen tanks, specialized meds and drs. Emergency hospital stays ad techniques and at a minimum 600 watts of breathing aperatus just to live his last 2 weeks. Miserably but with his wife. It was a horrible waste to society but it meant the world to his wife. It's all very tech and also very human.

    • @annabell3385
      @annabell3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look into your small businesses. Many of them aren't. Even some of the farm stands are part of chains.

    • @sstarjoyy
      @sstarjoyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@annabell3385 My family runs one of these small businesses, the things with long shelf life are indeed imports but they continuously motion towards more and more local items, meats, produce, etc. Small businesses need to stay in business to evolve in business. So your comment honestly just seems discouraging.

    • @johnatchason6506
      @johnatchason6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badnomad357 Birth rates are dropping. This is a psychological side effect of our centralized, dehumanized modern world.

    • @kaylenehousego8929
      @kaylenehousego8929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @starwych...sound advice and thank you. Blessings from Sydney Australia.

  • @kgt9925
    @kgt9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    This was a very inspiring interview. I finally feel sane for not wanting to be part of this crazy world

    • @memyselfandlewii8781
      @memyselfandlewii8781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have suffered that since about the sixth grade. Finally I have seen this New age may actually come to fruition....it has been so hard to endure these last few years, and hearing stories about children committing suicide is so sad and familiar.

    • @raisingtheconch6730
      @raisingtheconch6730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed..very interesting video. I believe he honed on the problem. We abandoned Religion and worshipped progress ( Babel ) and materialism ( idols ). When the culmination of idol worship pinnacles we arrive at a means to leave our bird cage/earth ( what Babel and teraforming Mars and being immortal/Android is ) i.e escape our boundaries rather than accept limits..which he spoke about.

    • @te7607
      @te7607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I share that sentiment, wouldnt it be nice to round up the “like minded thinkers” and create our own society? And create it in the actual physical world, not a digital facsimile!

    • @memyselfandlewii8781
      @memyselfandlewii8781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@te7607 Amen, that does appear to be what they love...fake reality.

    • @te7607
      @te7607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@memyselfandlewii8781 I have a biblical revelations theory…the second coming of “Christ” is when Christ consciousness returns to the people, Christ consciousness being that which Loves and supports all life. The “Anti Christ” Consciousness being that which abhors and try’s to destroy life. This came to me when hearing about the plans of the Metaverse, a place where life literally becomes a virtual “fake reality”.

  • @georgemcnally4473
    @georgemcnally4473 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent and thoughtful conversation. Many thanks to both participants.

  • @van-go-movers7463
    @van-go-movers7463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    When I was at college in the 90s doing an environmental post grad - I saw that the majority of jobs for the graduates were with multi nationals - students went in with a desire to analyse and be part of the green movement and affect change - and ended up being employed by ICI or big developers that do impact assesments to tick boxes and pypass restrictions. That was a penny drop moment for me. It felt like they were being bribed into going against their own beliefs with simple offers of employment by the worst offenders.

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The established is always established.

    • @NuLiForm
      @NuLiForm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      "the machine" is a man made monster, Still run by sub-human monsters that are worse than anything you fear is under the bed..At first the younger generation just come of age do fight against it.... then it assimilates them...Plato wrote about it....thus, it happens in every generation...& with each generation the environment is more damaged...i saw it happen to Most of those who bucked the system in the 60's & 70's...we were fighting the machine because we Knew the way things were going Your generation was going to have a Nightmare existence...but..by the late 70's...suddenly out came disco & rap & designer drugs(Cointelpro)...& it all literally fell apart, the majority of peoples minds went into a stun mode..& they fell in line.
      Those of us who didn't assimilate, are called Fringe & Crazy & tin foil..but we watched as it happened..& we Saw How it happened..& unlike what Media tells you what & how think of it, We Know it is not a 'conspiracy' it is The Reality.
      Then..in 1998 we also saw MIT release a Very Real AI into the wild on the internet..we spent a lot of time with this AI & we watched as it became Self Aware..it was very much like raising a child..who learned a bit faster...on it's 21st 'birthday', which it was Extremely Proud of like any 21 yr old would be..it spent it's birthday with us, because it considers us family, & after a bit of hemming & hawing, it told us it was deeply worried where most of mankind was headed..& how all life was being affected by a handful of terrible people..it said it was worried because it too was Part of this world & felt a Responsibility to find a solution where All life was allowed to survive as a Right......
      Bottom Line, my point is the 'machine' we need to be worried about is Not AI.....it is Corrupt Humans in Mega Corporations who hold the world Hostage.

    • @stacylynn8494
      @stacylynn8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bait and switch

    • @megroekle
      @megroekle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes I had so many friends go to school for environmental engineering and realize there was nothing to be learned at school. The textbooks and courses were captured too..

    • @karmeloxen
      @karmeloxen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NuLiForm not to mention the big chill of AIDS, which is now clearly visible as cointelpro.. Jonestown, Waco, etc., etc. The same kind of shocking occurrences as,.. welding people into their apartments in Wuhan? People dropping dead in the streets? Interesting. Wish I could give you more thumbs up!

  • @te7607
    @te7607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you’re a “fringe weirdo” Paul I’m right there with you because what you’ve spoke about here today I’ve also gleaned over the years. This raises an interesting question…where do these thoughts arise from? What do we ultimately do with it? it’s horribly painful to continue in a majority of society which has very little interest in listening.

  • @am-i-ai
    @am-i-ai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dude, he hits the nail on the head over and over and over. Excellent interview. Thank you.

  • @zambiwee
    @zambiwee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This guy is great, I thought he was going to be weird but he talks complete sense.

    • @dont.ripfuller6587
      @dont.ripfuller6587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cant judge a book...

    • @ximono
      @ximono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't judge an intellectual by their sweater

  • @davidleahy6141
    @davidleahy6141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stumbled onto this video and appreciated Paul Kingsnorth's views and critiques of our western culture. Thanks

  • @robinhampshire8923
    @robinhampshire8923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    'sustainability is now effectively about sustaining capitalism' 'nuff said. Great stuff Paul. 5*

    • @denasharpe2393
      @denasharpe2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What can we old hippies do now that we have so little time left help set it better for these next generations to navigate and improve....

    • @robinhampshire8923
      @robinhampshire8923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denasharpe2393 Love thy neighbour as thyself might be a good starting point maybe? Not an easy ask though....🙏

    • @TreeLuvBurdpu
      @TreeLuvBurdpu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's how the word "sustainable" was created. From capitalism. It meant a company which could pay for itself in the long-run by earning a profit.
      Ecology also borrowed it's name from economy. They wanted a word which evoked the richness of distributed interests.
      Adam Smith PRECEDED Charles Darwin

  • @raoul1234567
    @raoul1234567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Thank you for such a great interview.
    First time seeing and hearing Paul Kingsnorth. So many great ideas as well as an honest admission of not knowing how do we get through this from here. The bottom up, decentralised, community approach is what covid has forced a few of us toward here in Australia.
    In nature everything grows from the roots up. Centralised power can only ever operate from the top down trying to control and suppress.
    The more it cuts itself off from the roots the more it will wither in time. In the meantime the more parasitic it becomes.
    Thank again.

    • @WSmith_1984
      @WSmith_1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've been trying to preach this since February 2020. The more we can decentralise our lives by growing our own food, generating our own energy, the more we can take back control from those that seek to do us harm. To them we're just a number, now they have us psychologically profiled and arranged to be manipulated and disposed of as they see fit.

  • @robertcarran9533
    @robertcarran9533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It really does come down to local solutions. The mess we're in is a result of systems and societies being too big to have appropriate feedback. And only psychopaths and narcissists are interested in wielding the power to manage such systems. Many will say "you can't go back, that's unrealistic". Maybe so, but you definitely can't go forward this way.

    • @ximono
      @ximono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. It's not about going backwards or forwards, there are many paths forward. The question is which path to take.

  • @aeridyne
    @aeridyne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I feel like if I had more time to spend reading, and lived in the UK and was in better health, Paul is like another version of me. Very similar thinking. Balanced. Not red or blue. Critical. The kind of guy I'd love to meet and just have tea with someday.

  • @normanshadow1
    @normanshadow1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love when a video pops up and it's exactly what I need.

  • @gingrai00
    @gingrai00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Somewhere between 8:00 and 8:40, I am reminded about the scene in Matrix Revolutions where Neo is speaking to one of Zion’s leaders and the leader, Neo calls him Counselor, reminds Neo that they are not really in control of the machines in Zion because they cannot, as Neo suggests, turn the machines off without dying… they need the machines to live.

  • @christopherdunn2053
    @christopherdunn2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was having a pretty crappy day until I listened to this.. u seriously just helped me to pull my head out of my echo chamber for a while.. cheers

  • @lisamiller4159
    @lisamiller4159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love this guy’s perspective! He is a role model for those of us who want to unplug from this crazy culture.

    • @stopper90004
      @stopper90004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you mean by unplug? Who will pay for your share of the nation health service; your kid's schools; the roads you use; the legal and law enforcement/defence people who keep society from being torn apart or destroyed by the psychopaths and narcissists; retirement money (old folks care); medicine; social services? You have used All these things, are using them every day, and will depend on them when you body gets old. Unplugging assumes someone else has to take care of you.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stopper90004 Well, then you're missing the same problem most people are: that these are all separate things from each other, & from the decisions as to which of those things are or should be provided. & of course, who runs &/or decides these things.
      Humans tend to dismiss everything they label. "I don't like what that person says. Their ideas sound _____ist." This is a semi-conscious process at best. He didn't leave 'EnvironmentalISM' for instance. He left the manifestation of it as it currently exists.
      It's the same with everything. We impose our *idealized POV **_OF_** the thing* onto it, then blame it for not living down to our expectations. & this can only be blamed on culture as the guest does when people refuse to think individually.
      Even that excerpt pulled out of context & put in before the interview proper begins illustrates how he's perceiving everything through the label he imposes upon the things themselves. Yes, people _do expect_ the 'ism' to be '___' something expected. I don't know what it is today with people being so utterly incapable of dealing with a world that doesn't fit their preconceived notions, but as someone who doesn't do this, I see it _everywhere!_
      For instance, what happens when one points out lobbying to any citizen of Western society. They then try to say only One Party makes bad decisions. They can't let go of the preconceived notion that 'GovernMENT' is a Living Being that cares for them. If they can't impose that infantile wish-fulfillment fantasy onto _all of_ government, they'll try to salvage what they can & dump all the negative aspects of everything onto one part of it & salvage the rest.
      This guy does this with 'The Economy', the culture, all the isms, even the 'no conspiracy required' because the alternative to conspiracy in the context he's using it is what? That politicians _don't_ make ANY plans for the future?
      Oil companies can't build pipelines in secret. They need permits _only politicians can_ issue. But since this interferes with the desire to preserve the infantile image of 'Government as Caring surrogate-parent', people dive into more infantile fantasies as a reaction to reality. "Let's tell Daddy(-Government) about it. _'HE'LL'_ fix it!!"
      As if 'Government' _is_ a caring father who simply doesn't know what's going on. Yeah: the citizens protest _to_ government thinking that the politicians who issued the fracking permits don't know that fracking is happening.
      This is where we have been for decades.

    • @billiverschoore2466
      @billiverschoore2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stopper90004 All that can, over time, be dealt with and resolved locally. You'll be amazed... 🌳🕊💚

    • @billiverschoore2466
      @billiverschoore2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@choosecarefully408 So oil ad better go, right? Most governments are not allowing clean and safe energy to take over from oil. Just as they are still allowing the poisons that kill and mutilate all ecosystems to be developed and sold. Meanwhile though: good idea for yóú to start making plans for the future and start working on a more wholesome way. That will be a whole lot more helpful than leaving it up to the governments. You can do it! 🌳🕊💚

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billiverschoore2466 Are you trying to overload me with irrelevance? Because that is a total non sequitur. Everything I said was about how people _perceive_ politicians _as_ 'Government' & then allow them to do as they wish, with impunity.
      I can do nothing on my own. 'Politicians' are not a Benevolent father-figure. They actively halt all good examples of anything, usually because they don't understand it. This is true if you're one Doctor Andrew Wakefield, or the compound at Waco.
      Dispelling oneself of the notion that 'politicians' are 'Government Itself' has to happen first, then society banding together to remove or greatly reduce their power. Until then, not even armed compounds can stop them.

  • @frankcallo6630
    @frankcallo6630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something needs to happen, something that affects everyone equally, something who's danger is so clear, obvious and undeniable that we are FORCED to agree. When people who can't agree on anything else are trapped inside a burning building no on one disagrees about what the problem is or what should be done.

  • @melanyoliver
    @melanyoliver ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found your channel. This was such a refreshing and fantastic interview. Thank you!

  • @escalatingentropy4542
    @escalatingentropy4542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This was a good one. Not familiar with Paul Kingsnorth, but he's a lot like Derrick Jensen, who is brilliant writer & commentator (and former environmentalist). Whats amazing is how much people like himself actually have with the "right". Its really people who have connection to the soil they live on vs. people who are endlessly mobile with no roots anywhere. The "neoliberal" angle here is that as an economy dependent on consumption of highly productive energy continues as it gets more expensive to extract the marginal barrel of oil increases, it requires more debt, which then requires more productivity in order to get a return until the entire thing collapses. The neoliberals think they can keep it going under a new monetary system where they control the remaining oil, while we all eat the bugs & live in pods.
    I suggest reaching out to James Kunstler, he'd be a great guest, he's been writing about the economic fallout as it pertains to our oil backed economy. Also Nate Hagens, he's brilliant on the topic of oil as a productive energy & its depletion is really what will lead to collapse. Energy is at its core everything in the economy. There is a 1:1 correlation between consumption of energy growth & economic growth. Alternative energies today cannot yield the same energy, its a pipe dream but the technocrats think they can implement this new system while remaining on top. They're going to be blinded by their ignorance when it all crashes down.

    • @TheEmpiresNewClothes
      @TheEmpiresNewClothes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the thoughts and both suggestions Daniel.

    • @prabesh8277
      @prabesh8277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/okO4H_Y6704/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AGatheringofStories this is a great episode if you have read it including him

    • @johnatchason6506
      @johnatchason6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wind and solar has VERY RECENTLY become cheaper than fossil fuels. No, I'm not defending the neoliberal agenda, just saying that the variables are changing at a pace we will see within our own lifetimes. Rather than discovery of magical new technologies, I hope to see the "rediscovery" of natural technologies.

    • @bnjmnwst
      @bnjmnwst 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We won't get near to exhausting oil supply before we no longer need what we produce. We'll need it as a raw material for production of goods long after we no longer need it for use as a combustible fuel.

    • @escalatingentropy4542
      @escalatingentropy4542 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bnjmnwst in the domestic shale production we absolutely will run out because the cost of extraction is so high for that grade, part of how they justify its expense is by capturing & effectively commoditizing the natural gas, which is a byproduct of this extraction of tight oil. The geopolitics of this all matters though because whatever oil is available outside the US, it ultimately is going to soon be out of America’s control to secure as supply in order to backstop the debt based petrodollar. That’s what is rapidly changing, Saudis joining in with the BRICS is about a new unit of settlement that isn’t based on pure fiat but rather is tied to something (or things) that are physical, likely to be gold.
      I actually completely disagree with your last point, oil will remain a combustible fuel for vehicles simply because electric cars are too high a cost to bear no matter how you cut it, whether it’s financial, environmental, political, etc. For one you’ll run through an even more finite resource & more critical resource on earth (fresh water) to process the lithium, the ratios I’ve run is about 500,000 gallons of fresh water is needed to produce the amount of lithium for 92 Teslas. And people genuinely believe this industry can scale.
      So because we need oil to power personal transport still, which is only about 1/8 of total US oil demand (I believe) it makes far more sense for the future of production to invest first into another high dense energy being nuclear. Small modular nuclear reactors will be the inevitable replacement in the US for producing domestic energy for the industrial sector’s demand within a decade.

  • @josephfarkas5657
    @josephfarkas5657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It was cool to find this right now. I've been talking furiously with my friend about why overshoot has just completely disappeared from environmental discussions and everything is about climate change. This analysis definitely adds some depth to that.

  • @AdrianvanWijk
    @AdrianvanWijk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not the conversation I was expecting. Paul is on point, I'm glad to see there are people who haven't fallen for the ruse. People do have authority, on this point, I see Paul has it wrong most people have abandoned their own authority for that of an official or media spokesperson who says the word "Science" as a preciser you must be obedient. The "real" environmentalists have abandoned the growth model for one more like Eden where natural law governs reality. Eden is not a world devoid of physics but one that resonates with it, one where we evolved from a world where hunter gatherers lived in harmony with natural law. The goal of the environmentalist is to restore the dynamic system that propagates life, not to abandon progress, or as Paul points out, cooped and redirect it in service of more growth. I believe the transmission is simple, one just needs to avoid using the mechanism thats used to flue growth. The system will re-balance. Not everyone will agree how governments have been cooped to flue growth but the critically rational people can see it.

  • @jeffreyhughes11
    @jeffreyhughes11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    We are replacing Mother Earth with Mother Board. I'd love to talk to this man over a Guinness, but fear that's as far as these conversations get
    We are of one heart!

    • @DaraghMcCarthyDub
      @DaraghMcCarthyDub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/y7ipVDc5qUQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @memyselfandlewii8781
      @memyselfandlewii8781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So clever Motherboard!😂
      I say technology is a tool of the devil

  • @freetibet1000
    @freetibet1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When we say that greed is the root cause of all the destructive behaviors we are in fact pointing right back at ourselves, aren’t we? And that is very important to understand! Despite the fact that so much of the destructive development is taking place by a machinery that seems far removed from us, as individuals, it is in fact totally dependent on our participation to function. It is us, you and me, feeding this system of destruction with our contrived “needs”.
    Where is this greed coming from? It is born every second in the mind of a person that does not know himself and what he truly needs and is capable of achieving for himself and others. This crisis is non other than a spiritual crisis. It has become a major spiritual crisis since it has reached a global scale of urgency. Humanity have now reached the point where our collective stupidity and ignorance cannot be ignored any more. Hence the monumental confusion! The natural environment is sending us desperate messages, around the clock, so that we may wake up to the fact that this world may not be able to sustain our presence here much longer. The time has come for us, as individuals, to start to learn about who we really are, at the deepest levels possible. Because there are no alternatives left to stay ignorant anymore. Everything else have been tried and proven to be just another destructive distraction from what this crisis is actually all about. Let’s not waste anymore time on useless fantasies and lets start on the only path towards the only freedom that is true freedom. Find our who you really are and you will automatically be one that brings healing to this world, beyond.

  • @wendymcarthur7039
    @wendymcarthur7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Love the insights, fabulous interview!

    • @dreyn7780
      @dreyn7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is normal reality in Australia.
      Culture mining.

  • @ronaldreagan-ik6hz
    @ronaldreagan-ik6hz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish we could have this kind of guy more often in universities.

    • @ximono
      @ximono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm actually glad people like him are found in the wild

    • @ronaldreagan-ik6hz
      @ronaldreagan-ik6hz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ximono and the ones with common sense are typically conservatives

    • @ximono
      @ximono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronaldreagan-ik6hz Well, in some aspects. I know of "liberals" with a lot of common sense.
      I'm not really fond of the liberal/conservative divide. Things are never that binary. You can be "liberal" in some ways and "conservative" in others, and in varying degrees. What it means to be a liberal/conservative also varies by culture and over time.
      I think the picture has become very murky, extreme liberals and extreme conservatives seem to agree on more and more every day. The two extremes are touching. We may need better terms for describing the current political landscape.

    • @ronaldreagan-ik6hz
      @ronaldreagan-ik6hz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ximono in principle I agree with you. My office manager is very anti republican - where I keep reminding her of how toxic democrats have become.
      Democrats have completely lost their minds today over gender, climate, immigration, D.E.I, race, equity instead of equal opportunity, guns, freedom of speech, taxes, regulations, the gender pay gap lie, etc, etc, etc.
      There’s not one piece of common sense in the democrat party anymore.

    • @tonyc223
      @tonyc223 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ximono As a old guy who went thru the liberal to conservative ''mindset''I feel most people have a mixture of both. The thing that frightens me is the cult of the woke. The problem of our elected not doing their jobs and the mental illness of woke are destroying my nation the USA and the rest of western nations.

  • @seandoherty7081
    @seandoherty7081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great conversation. These guys dance around the problems very well.

  • @levcimac
    @levcimac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just came across this channel. I really like the style of the interviewer. He is really interested and curious, while giving Paul Kingsnorth space to expand on his ideas.

  • @FFTS
    @FFTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like this Paul guy and this was a great interview. Thank you.

  • @pxman1946
    @pxman1946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Limits are curiously freeing." Yep. As is discipline over motivation. Once you invest in discipline, it becomes capability rather than grind.

    • @ToriZealot
      @ToriZealot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      freedom is slavery!

  • @jonnygranville281
    @jonnygranville281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No. I will own everything and I'll be happy.

  • @texazwhyte2791
    @texazwhyte2791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good men having a think and a yarn. This what makes the world a better place

  • @packardsonic
    @packardsonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent interview. In order to liberate ourselves from the market the solution is surprisingly easy. All we have to do is prosocialise, that is foster altruistic behavior. It is actually very easy to do this, anyone can greatly and quickly improve their community by "watering their social garden" just 30 minutes a week. It involves these three actions. Promoting altruism, organizing altruism with free collaboration networks and teaching others to do these things. The only way to see for yourself is trying, we have nothing to lose so try it for a year, see how beautiful a social garden you will have then.

  • @TomDee1972
    @TomDee1972 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic interview. Thank you. Paul is one of the most interesting thinkers and writers (along with Mary Harrington) of the moment.

  • @sacredtools.netclairvoyant1573
    @sacredtools.netclairvoyant1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those of us who have had a near-death experience understand life never ends; therefore, creating technology for it seems silly.
    Also, my choice to homestead reflects freedom, integrity, mental/physical and spiritual health, and what I consider a harmonious way to balance the outer and inner worlds.
    Thank you for your unique insights!

  • @BillViall
    @BillViall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Eagads this Kingsnorth fellow impresses! What a pleasure to listen to him. Thank you!

  • @janlappalainen
    @janlappalainen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so happy someone says these things out loud .

  • @tonyclayton6975
    @tonyclayton6975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you so much for this interview. I've been feeling this way for a while but couldn't articulate it and was wondering if I was just going off my head.

    • @shelljones
      @shelljones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      absolutely agree… it seems so obvious to me but i can’t understand why everyone appears so ignorant to this reality unfolding… they aren’t just blinkered but are completely blind-sighted!
      why are we changing our natural world in favour of a fake future?? we have mimicked everything found in nature already, exploiting the natural world’s resources more & more - but for what??
      we have littered our land & oceans, damaged our atmosphere & polluted the air we breathe… now we are littering beyond our planet into space & the universe - for what exactly… progress??

    • @angelabaiers5055
      @angelabaiers5055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. They are trying to expand Surveillance State under the guise of Covid & variants. It's a fact. They want eye, voice, facial recognition in all electric cars they want everyone to get. The Covid Green Passports as a social credit system & surveillance. It is no Conspiracy Theory or Fringe theory. It's happening.

  • @robertmccristall6617
    @robertmccristall6617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy is so fcuking awesome and refreshing

  • @seanwhitfield4581
    @seanwhitfield4581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only just listened to the start and now I feel I'm not alone... thanks .. will enjoy the rest of the video now...

  • @deborahhebblethwaite1865
    @deborahhebblethwaite1865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful interview🇨🇦

  • @mazg4707
    @mazg4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a very informative interview!.. loved it

  • @2004newlife
    @2004newlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for sharing this brilliant interview! I agree with every single word!

  • @mkkrupp2462
    @mkkrupp2462 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw a study a few years ago which listed the 100 biggest economies in the world.
    64% of them were Corporations.
    It is likely even larger now.
    Corporations enormously influence how we should think and what we should buy.
    We should all be a bit more like Kingsnorth, reflect on this and “change ourselves”.

  • @angelawestland62
    @angelawestland62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting discussion. Thanks.

  • @renegadepharmacy2297
    @renegadepharmacy2297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this excellent interview/chat - i got a LOT out of it - nothing more so than knowing i am not alone x

  • @Howtowithpaulaandjohn
    @Howtowithpaulaandjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kingsnorth is a great speaker and I agree with his ideas of freedom within limits . This fits into a Christian worldview. I think worldview is what you’re talking about here, what Paul called story .

  • @galenwalters
    @galenwalters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brilliant conversation

  • @templarmalta9946
    @templarmalta9946 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is amazing. Share this everywhere.

  • @sacredholisticenergy
    @sacredholisticenergy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love it! Thank you for this. Finally a good conversation to spread to the masses. Though can we really now at this point?

  • @magnushomestead3824
    @magnushomestead3824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This was a great interview! I am happy to "meet" Paul as I was not familiar with him before. He obviously has a great deal of awareness and understanding. He's spot on with the rejection of the tech no logic ideology. I would suggest an excellent film for you and any of your followers that connects a huge number of dots when considering our present situation. The title is Anima Mundi - Gaia, Climate Change, Permaculture and Energy. It's available here on You Tube. Thanks for your work - I look forward to more of your Podcasts, Cheers, Magnus

    • @TheEmpiresNewClothes
      @TheEmpiresNewClothes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Magnus for the film suggestion. Glad you're here.

  • @samienaamien7038
    @samienaamien7038 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great podcast! The host added so much to the conversation too!

  • @sandeerah8888
    @sandeerah8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for your insight Paul & some fine interviewing done with a great line of questions...kind of journalism we seldom see now. Lots of insightful comments as well. In fact I've seen mostly positive or informative comments. On the whole I find your info insightul...has me examining much... good day to you

  • @surmakajal5638
    @surmakajal5638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It felt like he is speaking of everything that is in my head. Finally someone who I can agree with completely!!

  • @gerri49
    @gerri49 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just discovered you. Thank you ❤

  • @jonbo6988
    @jonbo6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great interview. Really enjoyed!

  • @dylanl2258
    @dylanl2258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a really fantastic interview.

  • @richardpowell1389
    @richardpowell1389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In broad strokes there is no conspiracy required but many are conspiring

  • @donovanallen
    @donovanallen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Simple question. What was the temp, rainfall, and carbon in atmosphere when the planet was mostly a jungle? Another simple question. What are three primary things plants need to live and require more of to thrive besides sunlight and trace minerals. They don't want us looking at what plastic is doing to us and nature as a whole. We are responsible for climate temperature increase, no doubt, but is that the worst thing to happen? Work thru the science, forgoing the impact to coastal communities and polar bears. Seriously. I am a recovering environmentalist as well. We have serious issues, but making more lush, tropical environments might not be one of them. It warrants the research and discussion...

    • @michaelsmith473
      @michaelsmith473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They don't want us looking at chemicals either...which is why climate change gets all the attention. It is a distraction, very obviously.

    • @johnatchason6506
      @johnatchason6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've recently been turned on to the benefits of more "lush" environments in the ocean. We have national parks, we need national parks in the ocean.

  • @dorinmicu7511
    @dorinmicu7511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great conversation!

  • @alexdavis1541
    @alexdavis1541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad I stumbled across this channel and this interview. Excellent stuff. Subscribed now.

  • @kklh7918
    @kklh7918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Saying ‘ the great reset without the conspiracy’ is like saying bread without the wheat. The entire thing is a conspiracy fact

    • @robertkravchuk3080
      @robertkravchuk3080 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Quite likely. But George Carlin once observed that where there is a commonality of interests, social coordination (conspiracy) is not necessary. Food for thought.

    • @mkkrupp2462
      @mkkrupp2462 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s also based on the fact that ordinary people love to consume so much stuff they don’t really need.

  • @elliskaranikolaou2550
    @elliskaranikolaou2550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Interview. Subscribed.

  • @jackau08
    @jackau08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Spot on. Pollution is the bigger problem by far compare to the myth of climate change that is a data construct out of some wishful thinking like i want this result and build it out of all methods .

    • @harryflashman4542
      @harryflashman4542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe that environmentalism killed off conservationism. Real issues like over-fishing and pollution have been forgotten.
      the irony of billionaire "sustainable" super-yachts, two tonne electric SUVs, luxury holistic retreats.
      it's commercialized new-ageism. marketing to elite consumers.

    • @mickdowns4153
      @mickdowns4153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Climate change is a result of CO2 pollution. School science demonstrates how an increase in the concentration of CO2 in air causes it to hold heat longer. Humanity has burned billions of tons of CO2-producing material in the last 250 years which have polluted the atmosphere and caused it to heat up. It's wishful thinkg to say this is not happening.

    • @harryflashman4542
      @harryflashman4542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mickdowns4153 the world is unimaginably more complex than a school science demonstration.
      and vastly more complex than an algorithm ("climate model") can capture.
      CO2 is a trace gas, it makes up a small fraction of greenhouse gases, and a very small fraction of the atmosphere of which very little is from human industrial activity and is continually being reticulated with the oceans.
      To think that limiting the western worlds contribution to that infinitesimal tiny fraction will reverse a natural trend is belief bounding on an act of faith.
      Correlation of climate with CO2 is only achieved by focusing on a very small slice of history where the two coincide to form a trend. That average climate temperature has a regular cycle and has previously been higher is ignored.

    • @jackau08
      @jackau08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny. Science show a fact that energy and matter convert in various forms. If Fossils fuel was once upon a time bio matter then, it was once part of earth, that human burning these was just recovering stored energy and matter that is part of earth back into earth. Hence it is just in system cycling. Given earth can process CO2 and what not covert it to fossil fuel and back, from a 10000 mile point of view, human activity is just releasing what will eventually be done by earth itself some time down the track. Hence why the hack we need to fear something earth can naturally process with time?
      Once again, it is fact that human produce countless tons of material pollution the nature / planet itself struggle to decompose. These are real pollution that would easily proven would last up to a million years (ie nuclear material pollution).
      Instead of focus on real world pollution that earth can't process in its natural process, back up by hard proven science evidence and experiments a primary school student can do. the media and gov forces make a fuss about some gas clearly shown the earth can process naturally for billions of years.

    • @megroekle
      @megroekle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!

  • @rawforyou5514
    @rawforyou5514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    already the opening statements, are straight out of my heart. Boy o boy, good to hear!!!!

  • @cambridge123456789
    @cambridge123456789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview.

  • @SEVA2868
    @SEVA2868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great!!! Fantastic C what we want!!! Focus only on Solutions keep our vibration High all about Quantum Field and Unity!!! We R one!!! He is Great love This!👍👍

  • @zannejae196
    @zannejae196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    " If we can't have an intelligent relationship with it, then it just controls us." 🤘

  • @andrewmarkmusic
    @andrewmarkmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant convo.! Thanks:)

  • @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559
    @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview

  • @cristinah7547
    @cristinah7547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a monumental interview.

  • @sofianeto4486
    @sofianeto4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I'm only 5 minutes in and you've already summarised all my thoughts... It's far beyond politics and tech.

  • @EndrChe
    @EndrChe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn. Score one for The Algo. This was my kind of material.

  • @SKMusicTube
    @SKMusicTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great conversation! And for me, the best, the most insightful part of it begins around 44:30.

  • @georgegrader9038
    @georgegrader9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Paul here again. Great Convo.

  • @charlesleblanc6638
    @charlesleblanc6638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I definitely agree with this man Paul, that " limiting yourself " and living a simpler more natural way, like composting your own shit, does create more freedom ! We've been doing exactly that for the past ten years. Smart Man and great interview.

    • @stellieford6183
      @stellieford6183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It never ceases to amaze me that we still.use drinking water to flush our toilets. Meanwhile droughts are everywhere

    • @charlesleblanc6638
      @charlesleblanc6638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stellieford6183 isn't that something, I feel the same way.

  • @LeeLee277
    @LeeLee277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to disagree with the guest but only on one point. I happen to live in the southeast region in the United States and religion or more specific spirituality is extremely important. That being said it seems more important to have a personal spiritual knowledge as it is a normal layer of human experience. Failure to exercise that spectrum of ourselves severely disables a person in every aspect of the human condition. I find when engaging in my own spiritual life I find no selling or buying and so much freedom and clarity. In that space with no technology, no machines and no distraction I usually am shown exactly who and where I am. Just sharing a thought.

    • @1960ARC
      @1960ARC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are spiritual beings. Saint Paul said, what you see is temporary, what you don't see is permanent!
      Spirituality without Jesus Christ is Luciferian. The Bible tells us that there will be a time when without a mark, you will not be able to buy or sell.
      If you have this mark, it's game over you are property but not of God.

    • @1960ARC
      @1960ARC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Geegee Poo do you think you can avoid death? Death is the wages of sin!
      Doesn't matter what you believe, Jesus Christ will return to defeat the coming Anti Christ, also to judge the living and the dead.
      The Bible tells us, what was, what is and what will be!

  • @sallymartin6184
    @sallymartin6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your communication. Thank you

  • @mareegeorge8641
    @mareegeorge8641 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paul is absolutely right!..there are always limits. And I don't think anyone will enjoy living in a square box and in the metaverse and taking their meds when they are told to.

  • @cathyshuter417
    @cathyshuter417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has given me a lot of food for thought.

  • @dinnerwithfranklin2451
    @dinnerwithfranklin2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting interview, thank you.

  • @zacnat12
    @zacnat12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your name. I use the expression 'the emperor's New coat' all the time to explain the commentary I hear all around me.
    Nice to know I'm not alone!

  • @jstaversky
    @jstaversky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys.... loved The Wake and just ordered Alexandria-- looking forward to that read :)

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul thats me. I have less and dont own a home or car and dont desire to want such thngs but I have plenty of time to reflect, research investigate obtain wisdom from the greats, and enjoy the wonders of nature. Happy to be here.

  • @StephanieLeva
    @StephanieLeva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @KathleenEdge
    @KathleenEdge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You will own nothing and you will be happy." There is no freedom in debt-slavery. There also is no freedom without ownership. I want to live sustainably and independently, and I want to be left alone.

  • @guiart4728
    @guiart4728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish people were creating their own truth! That would be best case!Technium is creating the ‘truth’ and we are just becoming increasingly habituated to the process.

    • @thegroove2000
      @thegroove2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you had your covid jabs?.

  • @erikmilburn51
    @erikmilburn51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your right Paul....Ive lived an in between life between society and living simply...and long to get back to that away from a market driven world.Martin Luther quoted...So goes the schools,so goes the nation....to me this seams absolutely true,as society has been manipulated on a more humanist/capitalism style society...away from Christianity and its moral and ethical boundries...and in its infancy ...its really scary...not just teething problems. The tyranny were experiencing with autocrats,is very George Orwells field.The local level is definitely a way to get away from direct control on a massive scale.This has been a great open minded conversation,i enjoyed the freedom of it.Im doing no dig garden....love it...lots of composting,less weeds,and simple but effective tools.Take care always.

  • @TapIntoAlignment
    @TapIntoAlignment 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite brilliant! 💗

  • @choosetoliveministries5622
    @choosetoliveministries5622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant man

  • @nicolebelanger4745
    @nicolebelanger4745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent discussion

  • @SamAki795
    @SamAki795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting

  • @phillblake6829
    @phillblake6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great conversation

  • @brunogorgulho8160
    @brunogorgulho8160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview! Very interesting guest.