Serve Return Tips No One Tells You with Seth Pech Part 1
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I feel like I should pay money for this video. This one is really quite impressive. The last tip is likely the best of them all. With that said, remember your subscriber base too - we deal with a TON of long serves that are tricky too. Just an idea for a follow up. I'm already thinking I need my partner to send me short to the forehand and long to the backhand 50/50. I just learned so much that my mind is mush now. The lifting heavy backspin is something I needed right now - I'm struggling against this and I can't wait to start working on it - my practice partner actually has heavy spin. He is learning to use lighter spin now too...ugh, serve return is so complex.
Haha yeah I figured I would just put it out there for everyone who finds my channel. Yeah how to practice is just as important as what to practice!
Your right long serves are tough, I think they are actually more tough than short because there can be more spin and are faster, its just that the risk is higher when a person serves long for their opponent to hit a winning shot so pros don’t serve long that often because they want to have control over the outcome and not leave it up to their opponent. Good players spend a lot of time practicing long serves early on because its the gateway to a higher level. I think its most important to learn to spin the ball with heavy back and side spin serves because you can delete the spin that’s on the ball and put on your own, anytime you can do that you decrease the difficulty of the long serves.
@@PechPongTT best answer i ever saw on TH-cam comments ever.
thank u❤️
Hi, I'm struggling with long spinny sidespin serves to the BH. I try to delete the spin and put my own, but would love to see someone doing it and teaching it...
Yeah just look at He Zhi Wen - destroys opponents with long serve. Long serves are underrated and I started using them when I realized they put you into a rally immediately, rather than messing around with short steps for short game.
@@kevziro I'm a newbie only a year and a half playing, I agree with you, but prob not at the very top levels?
I use long serves with spin a lot find them v effective.
Nice to see you reference He Zhi Wen! He trains people a few times a week at my club in Dublin Ireland, nice chap. He was actually training someone at the table next to me last night ha.
Man, these lessons are very specific and detailed. You told lessons 10 table tennis videos can give. Mad respect for a pro teaching others to learn.
Thank you! :) I try to get all the info in one video so you dont have to go digging through my channel to find bits and pieces haha
you have a great way of articulating these concepts into words and with visuals! thank you!
Tony Ma thank you! I try my best haha!
I've been watching alot of videos and this one I would say is one of the best explained videos I've seen. Thank you.
Thank you sir! I’m glad you could understand it, I really put time into thinking about how to present the information :)
This is such high quality content!!! I love how clearly you explain everything so well! These are such good tips, I especially love the forehand flip against heavy backspin serve, I think that will help me a ton with my forehand flip. This is such good and useful info. I love it! Keep on making these!
Heath Clugston thank you very much! I’m glad it’s clear haha I tried my best to make the tips understandable, hope it makes a difference in your game!
that samsonov flik is so hard to master.. any time u use the opponent spin without adding ur own, u need to be shure u know the amount of spin and change your bat angle accordingly..
right?..
Awesome series of videos! You have hit all of my (main) weaknesses (bh, serve return and footwork). That helped a lot!
Thank you!! I am glad it helped I will be uploading more here so stay tuned!!
Once again a tremendous amount of content in a very short amount of time.Your videos definitely have very unique content. Will need to watch several times and make notes.You have given me info for many months of practice .
That’s great! Yes I looked and did not find the info on the topics I cover so I decided to put them out there myself for others to see!
The single most helpful serve return video I’ve ever seen! It really is things no one tells you. Explains a few things about how pro serve returns are so good. I will watch this video many times as short returns is something I’ve really needed help with. Thanks!
Thank you! I’m glad I could shed some light on the topic! I hope you improve from it as well 👍👍
this video is GOLD ! great work again seth... this info is like private lessons that people pay for and you are putting it ou there !
Thanks man yeah I’m happy to share the knowledge I’ve learned through my experiences
Thanks Seth! This is the best comprehensive summary video of serve returns that I have seen. Clearly explained and demonstrated!
I’m glad you liked it 🙌 I try my best
Firstly want to thank you Seth for that kind of video, because receiving I think is a key to develop in tt, so all the tips are really helpful some of them are not so easy to read without personal coach. Respect!
Thanks for the compliments! Im happy to share my knowledge and the things I wish I knew when I was a developing player
I must thank you very much for this beautiful video. I started to play again after 20 years and today i had so much trouble returning. Finally i can come back with peace of mind knowing what to do.
Great video and well summarized! You jump straight to some advance aspects that are not talked about that much, thanks for the tips, will try the 'with the spin' and 'harimoto chop' out!
Thank you! Yes I try to talk about topics that are not so common but also can be useful for anyone trying to get better!
I really appreciate you taking time to make these videos they have been very helpful for me.
Hey great that you find them useful! I’ll keep them coming!
You're so good! Thanks for all the info Seth, I really do wish you grow a lot more here, your content more than deserves it!
Thanks! Yes I hope I grow as well, competition on TH-cam is very strong so growing is tough but I have a few more good content ideas that will help you and also help my channel :)
@@PechPongTT I'll definitely do my bit of liking your vids and letting the guys at the club know about your channel :)
great video as usual! i'm trying to teach my daughter to play and your title is right on the spot it will surely help many aspiring players...you'll be a top notch coach one of these days! easy to understand explaination and with demonstration thank you!
Glad you enjoy and understand and I will try my best to be the best coach possible :)
Excellent instructional videos! I have so much to work on now that I’ve been watching your videos. Thank you for your selfless instruction. Your efforts will certainly raise the bar of players at all levels.
Thanks glad you liked the videos!
Great technical details, I never thought about this natural FH angle return concept before. I will implement this in the training. Much appreciated.
Yeah it will take some time and I would try and find what works for you, it’s not an all or nothing of one or two returns work and the others don’t just keep the two and trash the others, maybe they will come back around in a different form in the future 👍👍
Great teachings and tips. I learned so many things. Your effort in this video will be not in vain. Good job!
Thanks 🙏 I’m glad you found it useful
This is really EXCELLENT! So much good stuff in here and extremely well explained. Thank you!
Thank you I’m glad you felt it was understandable!
These are some fantastic tips and well explained! I just subscribed. Thanks!
Thank you glad you found them useful! More to come 😁
This is absolutely brilliant Seth
Man please please keep the videos coming
Awesome ++
Thanks Seth great video. I like how you chose single elements of a rally, and how to introduce them , when and how to play them
Thank you, I’m glad you found it useful and informative! 👍👍
Excellent,Thanks for this Seth. I just got back from an afternoon training session at my local club.Lost a match purely on serve return. This has certainly given me some options to try out and improve.
Appreciate the content as it is well thought out and obvious takes a lot of effort to produce.
Hi, thank you for the compliment, glad it could help. haha yeah it did take a lot of work to make, stay tuned more to come!!
Finally a well explained technic how to return serve. It took me 10 years to find you and I'm going to put it in practice starting tomorrow. Well done sir and please keep making videos. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the input glad you understand it and feel it will help your game!!
Nice video and very good explanation. Its usefull even for the top players. I have played over 3o years and still keep learning every match I play. Good job, Seth.
Thank you very much! I am also learning everyday! always new rocks to turn over if you keep searching!
Very detailed and comprehensive tutorial. I can really feel your passion and interest in table tennis. You can open a membership system to coach others who want to learn more table tennis skill in youtube. Keep it up man!
Great suggestion! Thanks yes I love this sport
Thank you so much for this video. It really helped clear up some of my issues with service returns😊
Great tips! I'll be watching them multiple times to improve my skills. Interesting, useful, powerful
Great! Glad you find it informative
What I really like about your videos is that your tips and tricks apply to all levels of players. Not only beginners. Thanks a bunch
Thank you, yes I try to make sure that the tips can be used at any level :)
reallly really love your videos.for me one of the best training videos existing in the net!
Thank you, I’ve worked hard to get them out to you and others I’m glad you find it worth it.
I can't believe I'm just seeing these videos now! These are a lot of help!
This video gave you my subscription, wonderful tips and well explained. Keep up with those nice videos!
Thank you very much! Glad you found it informative and thanks for subscribing!! I’ll be sure to make more in the near future :)
Awesome video. For a while I was in my head like unable to understand how to hit the ball higher on heavy backspin... lift it! Excellent vid. I am finally able to binge all your stuff now that I got my wisdom teeth out and can't do anything else haha. This video is gold, not sure what I would do without it.
Thank you! Glad you finally got around to watching them 👍👍 I’m making a video on the forehand next
Thanks 🙏🏻… can’t wait to try out these advanced moves on the table. Hopefully take my game to the next level. ❤🎉
I hope you can 👍
These are fantastic tips - hope you do more such detailed advice videos. 👍😉
Thank you, yes I plan to do more in the near future 👍👍
This video was amazing. Why hasn't it been recommended to my feed earlier! This is something I'll need to watch over and over to fully grasp as I struggle with service return. Thank you so much :)
Glad I could shed some light on the topic! Yes watch it and watch the best players and identify which method they are using, I think this will speed up your learning
Hey seth, are all your push techniques done with the forearm and no.shoulder?
I am 37 and for the first time I understood this concept
By the way are 7 years that I don't play competitively anymore
GREAT VIDEO
Thank you glad I could shed some light on the topic for you
love this stuff. Insane overview over the Serves. Good training recommendation. I will take this to the table. Regards from Germany.
Thank you! Glad you liked it greetings from The USA :)
Thanks for the awesome explanations. Of all the tt videos I have seen over the years, yours stand apart 😊
It would be great if you could also show how to return a short reverse pendulum topspin service that lands on the forehand side. I always pop it up when pushing from my forehand. I know I can flick it, but just wanted to understand the technique to push such serves.
There are a couple ways to return that serve and you have to find the one that suits the way you play. Some players like to come in and just angle the racket pretty perpendicular to the ball and let the spin and energy bounce it back over, others like to go with the spin in much the same manner think Timo boll he does this one a lot and then others like to go with the spin and chop down on it like Fan Zhendong his angle will be more open and pointing to the ceiling than the others not bu much but a little more and the downward motion counteracts the topspin that is on the ball and going with the spin stops the ball from biting the rubber and throwing it somewhere you don’t want it to
Really amazing video.. I'll definitely have to go through your entire playlist ofcourse. Great content. Thanks a lot for sharing 👍
Looking forward for more insightful content from you. This will definitely help my game..💯
Thanks for the kind words! glad you find it informative. more to come !
Many thanks for summarising all types of serve returns; also you have given examples of top world players. Furthermore, detailed videos will be practical to start excercising, on each type of serve return, seperately.
Thank you, glad you found the video comprehensive and detailed! ill be sure to keep making more stuff!
Thanks a lot for this video. Am very grateful to you for this as I have been struggling with receiving serves for a very long time, specially with sidespin serves. Thanks again for this video👍😊👍
No problem! Im glad you enjoyed the video!
Great video man, thanks for the all the help, really really very detailed and great stuff. I sometimes was doing the "wait for the fall" sometimes but i didn't know the technique behind it. That's why some days i happen to always reply "short" shots and some days i just can't. now i know what was the technique i unintentionally did in one of the days and made it work that way.
Glad I could help!
Thank you for explaining the concepts, im taking your ideas with me to my next training session
Thank you! Glad you like them keep up the practice!
Thanks a lot. Very useful content. It will be great to see videos about tt tactics. Good luck.
Thank you! Im glad you enjoyed it. Tactics is a good topic, very diverse and ever changing I will have to think about how to convey a simple effective way to go about tactics.
You're videos are top notch in quality and research.
I don't feel like i should be watching this for free.
Thats a good feeling isnt it :) its honestly the least I can do, to get to high levels it takes a lot maybe personal coaches who have played at the highest level and 100s of hours of practice along with good sparing partners, these videos are to help speed up the process of learning and hopefully demystify this crazy hard game!
Best of luck to you :)
Need to watch this again. Great content seth!
Thank you, glad it helps!
Yo . . .Thank you so much for this video, your explanations were perfect. I’ve been wanting to join a TT club for way too long and now with the knowledge just from watching this you have given me the confidence to do so.
P E A C E : )
Thats great! Im glad you like the videos and they give you the confidence to start playing at the club!
Hi,
Indeed a lot of researches to build this great video.
One of the best useful, practical and with a lot added values video.
I am waiting for part 2.
Thanks
Thank you for noticing the hard work I put into making this and Im glad you enjoyed it.
"That is it for today" that was a huge understatement. This vid is loaded with great information. thanks
Haha thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Outstanding. Super quality video. Great serve receive knowledge!
Hey! Thanks Tahl means a lot, glad you liked it. hope to see you around soon :)
Anyone who receives my serves should watch this video, some really great advice here
hey Perch, you make outstandingly clear videos :-) keep up the cool work, man!
Ruslan Safin thank you! Will do 👍👍
i really like the use of clips from top players games. great video
Thanks yeah I thought that I would find it useful if I was viewing so I put that in there
Great video, very instructive as usual, many thanks
Glad you liked it 👍
High quality tips ! Thanks for sharing
Thanks 🙏 of course :)
Great video - you deserve way more views for content this high quality!
Thank you! Im sure if I keep delivering good stuff for you guys it will happen :)
Yeh definitely, this channel deserves a lot more views, and I think is going to gain popularity quick.
Two biggest TT youtube sites are Pongfinity and Adam Bobrow .What can be learned from that?
Great tip for returning non-natural FH serve! Never thought of that.
That’s awesome glad I could give you ideas! 💡
Great insight and tips Sert..Excellent video.👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your explainations. I get super motivated. Thank you 👏👍.
Thanks glad you found it motivating! I always get motivated when I learn something new or find a different way to train another part of my game!
Wow - been working on some of these ideas but not with the correct technique - thank you very much. Much appreciated!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video keep up the work 📈
Can’t thank you enough. Serve return creates the most anxiety of any shot in the sport. Half the points are returning serves so we need to do the deep dive and this video digs deep.
Thank you! yes serve return is very difficult to learn I am still learning a lot about it glad you liked the video!
Fantastic techniques decoded using clips of it being used in matches... thanks... keep enlightening.
Thank you much! Yeah I think it’s important to see the better players doing it because they will give the right mental pictures
Thanks for your efforts. Great content!
Jeff Timmerberg yeah no prob glad you found it useful!
the quality of the tips and the video were astounding. thanks so much for the effort. definitely going to be referring to this video a bunch xD
hey thank you, glad you enjoyed the content :)
You are very kind. This sort of knowledge is gold dust.
Thank you 🙏 I’m glad you found it and gave it a watch 😃
well...for a +50 guy playing for fun, lots of very precious lessons here. i hope i can put into practise even just a couple of them. like you said it at the end, i can see that you must have really put hard work to get this video out. congragulations 👏👏👏
Thank you! Im glad that you enjoyed the video!
Thank you for sharing. It's very insightful, very useful.
Thank you!!
Thank you good sir, lovely video and really nice tips.. Thanks for taking the time to make it.. Really going to help me a lot.. I wish I found this channel earlier..
You found It now that’s the main thing :)
Great video, excellent contents and well explained. Thank you.
Glad you liked it !
Nice job Seth, great video of service returns 👍
Thanks, Yes these are the things that made serve receive more clear for me!
Your comment regarding friction decrease made a light bulb come on in my mind. Awesomeness.
That’s the moment we all live for, glad I could give you that 😁😁
Very clearly explained. Thanks a lot.
Great videos, keep them coming!!
You got it 👍👍
I have such a hard time figuring out what´s coming to me on the serve and how to respond to it. So, THANK YOU lol. This helps a lot.
Let´s go train now.
Best wishes from Brazil!
Glad I could help! :) go get it!
I appreciate you for making this video bro!!
Thank you! I’m glad you like them
What an amazing work! Thanks so much for this :)
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it 😁
Absolutely gold stuff!! Thanks🙏
Super amazing tips thank you so much
Most welcome 😊
What seems hard to me (i only play recreationally) is to know what spin was used on the serve therefore which way to return. All in a split second. Hats off to you TT players!
Hey! Yeah it is tough at first, but there are about 7 or so main serves used and once you’ve memorized them and know what they look like then returning them become much easier then it just becomes a matter of seeing the slight differences in contact. It’s the hardest part of the game really
Great little gold nuggets. Thanks a lot for sharing
No problem!! Glad to share :)
Amazing content, thank you so much and... keep it coming!
Thank you will do 👍
Amazing video and knowledge Seth! Any advice for dealing with pesky short and low dead serves?
Yeah those are nasty tough, many top players push the the ball but don’t push under the ball instead the push a little more towards the back of the ball and push downwards with much spin Ma long, Patrick Fransiska, and Truls do this one very often and very well.
Terrific video! Thanks a tonne & Cheers mate!
Thanks! Glad you liked it 👍
Very nice and instructive. Thank you.
Thank you! Glad you liked it :)
Yooo it's Olav from TableTennisAnalytics at 3:20 😁
Also an amazing TT content producer on TH-cam! I'd love for you guys to do a collab one day, I think a lot of us would really enjoy that.
*Thank pro, Knowledge about table tennis is very useful*
Thanks glad you find it useful!! More to come stay tuned 🙌
Great coaching/Training
Good advice.
This is so much information! Very nice and in depth. I need to sleep now, so my brain can go store the info properly :P
Thank you! I figured I would just lay it out there for anyone any they can learn it at their own pace. I also like your idea of sleeping after learning a subject good thinking!!!
@@PechPongTT Just watched it again :) Do you know why pros don't flip (forehand) the ball more often if it is short and topspin? Is it too risky to get cought out of position if the ball gets blocked?
@@halter777 Hi, yes it is a bit risky to get cought out of position, not if the ball is blocked but rather if the opponent hits a very strong counter topspin back because the forehand flip is not able to make a lot of spin like the backhand flip its hard to hit it strong enough shot to be safe at the highest level. at yours and my level however anytime we can forehand flip it usually works out pretty well!
Why this channel recommended so late to me. I learnt alot. Thanks alot
Your here now :)
Thank you so much! Could you help us understand how to attack a long serve depending on the spin and what could be a good strategy?
Hey I made a video with Jiri Martinko, European youth champion about that exact topic and he shared a few gems that I think everyone should know.
Thanks for this video it's really helpfu,l I'm looking forward to putting this into practice.😁👍👍👍
great! Good luck, hope it helps and you improve a lot!
Thx for this video man 😍😍 I will try it tomorrow in Training.
Of course! Glad you liked it, work hard 📈
Your sharing is really helpful. Tks a lot.
Awesome !!!
it will help me a lot!
Thank you!
Great!!
Very nice content! Thanks for very concise tips and clearing things up for me. BTW what's the setup on your viscaria? Which rubbers are you using?
Thanks for the compliments I’m glad it was understandable, currently I use Dignics 09c on both sides.
Hey, just found your channel it is a great channel with the best content, you have nailed it down as you walk it through and then you demostraste it in practice so it is easy to pick it up.
Although for me sometjing is not quite clear is how you lift up the ball. Would you just hit it in an upward motion?
Thanks
Hi glad you like it, yeah I just slowly lift the ball try not to bounce it up just lift it
Thanks alot...very detailed stuff