Moving Tips No One Tells You with Seth Pech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- This video I made in response to a viewer asking about my footwork and the things that I think help me move around the table well.
Hope you learn something and enjoy. I do not make money off these videos as of yet so all the borrowed videos can feel safe and sound that I am not stealing from them! If there is a problem I would be happy to help solve anything!
My Equipment Links
Here is my Blade - bit.ly/SethsBlade
Here is my FH Rubber - bit.ly/SethsFH
Here is my BH Rubber - bit.ly/SethsBH
0:00 Introduction
0:08 PechPong TABLE TENNIS
0:11 Paddle Palace
2:34 PROPER FOOTING FOR WIDE FOREHAND
4:06 POWER STANCE AFTER SERVE
5:19 MOVING AROUND THE CORNER WITH SPACE
6:50 AFTER MOVING IN PUSHING BACK WITH BOTH FEET
8:21 BACKWARDS FOREHAND CROSS STEP - กีฬา
these footwork break downs are pure gold. This is the foundation of all stable players
This is the best table tennis channel on youtube! I love your detailed explanations and attitude. The problem with coaches is that they have stopped learning. They dont understand why something is difficult and they often give very perscriptive advice. I love that you share the struggle you have taken and continue to take to get where you are. It inspires me to continue to improve at the beautiful, demanding and at times frustrating game!
Thank you coach! Great video!
Absolutely brilliant!
As always totally brilliant analysis of tactics. Many thanks.
This is amazing!
Thank you very much glad you found it useful!
Great tips. Very practical and useful.
Very interesting tips, thx !
Thank you! more to come!
Great video as always. Thanks for sharing
Thanks 🙏
Very helpful. You rock Seth!
You Rock! thank you very much :)
Love it. Very insightful video, thanks :)
Thanks :)
Really nice and to the point. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I needed this so bad. Great content!
Thank you!
Thank you for this valuable stuff ❤️❤️ very much appreciated! Love your work and channel bro!
No Problem! Im glad you find them valuable.
Excellent Video
Thank you 🙏
Fantastic channel! Tips we never knew..keep up the good work
Thank you! I will keep it up 👍👍
Great tut 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Great instructional video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching👍 glad you liked it
Very good video.
The break down analysis using video examples from World Class players and then you performing it is great.
I look forward to seeing more soon!
Thank you! Glad you liked it, yes I will do more for sure 👍👍
Outstanding thank you
Thanks!
Maravilloso 👏👏👏👏
Nice, Thanks...
Very insightful and detailed video. I like that you explain with both videos and graphics, makes it very clear. Thanks for the great content and keep those videos coming!
Thank you very much! Yeah I try my best to make sure it’s understandable. I’ll keep them coming!
you're awesome! thank you for this!
Tony Ma no problem glad you liked it 👍
Very helpful! This is going deeper in a way that benefits my game. Thank you!
great! Im glad you found it beneficial
Great video! Excited to see what else you might be able to share with us. It’s always great to see things that you can’t find elsewhere
Glad you liked it!! Yes more to come, I know I always loved finding new info that could help improve my game!
Awesome content! I hope to see more like this soon!
Heath Clugston thank you very much! Yes I’m working on the next episode!
These serie of videos are incredible good and super helpful, specially for intermediate-advanced players. Thank you very much!
Thank you! I’m glad you got something from them :) I’ll try to keep the good information coming 👍
Great video! Useful to improve upon the game
Thank you! Glad you feel it can help you improve!
Brilliant stuff Seth, your breakdown of the techniques Reaaly make it work - excellent!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
Just subscribed! Going to practice those footwork soon. Thanks
Thanks! Yes practice hard and keep at it consistency is key!
Nice tips, gonna try some 👍
glad to hear it! give it a go!
THX 4 ALL YOUR GREAT VIEDEOS AND KEEP UP D GOOD WORK....P:S U ARE SUCH A HUMBLE PERSON SO IT MAKES D VIDEOS EVEN BETTER...
Thank you! I am glad you enjoy the videos! I have fun making them. Thanks for the compliment 😊😊
Really cool. The left over right i saw somewhere but you explained it very well. Love it
Thanks glad you liked the video!
I really hadn't thought about the last one before, thanks!
Glad you got something new from this!! no problem :) :)
Such an amazing and informative videos, really good tips that no one talks about.. Definitely will try these to improve my game...
Glad you found them fresh and new, work hard and your game will go upwards!
You've really got the best TT lessons on youtube. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! They are invaluable!
I’m glad you enjoy the videos I’ll keep making them 😁
Your videos are one of the best instructional videos. Great job I also wish you the best success in 2024.
I totally enjoyed it... Strong Quads!!
Very good guidance for me as beginner. Thanks a lot
Glad to hear it! No problem 👍
Thx a lot very effective way for demonstrating these tips ,even though i knew some of these , but the i ones i know were not that clear in mind
Respect ..
Thank you, glad that I could solidify the information for you.
Excellent Tutorial.Footwork is so important.Really liked the Way Ma Long integrates his footwork with the serve to get the quickest ready position.
Yeah! its really a game changer, it takes work to implement it and easy to fall off if you or I get a little lazy
wow your video contents are great!!! very keen on details i've watch a lot of videos and yours brief but on point, this will help many players i'm glad to came accross these tutorials especially abt your observations on fan's footwork thanks!!!
Thank you glad you enjoyed it :) more to come!
I have almost all the issues that you mentioned..right foot ahead of left, moving up with one foot and stepping back with one..very useful tips..
awesome stuff! Others would put these tips in like five 10 min videos. Thanks for keeping it to the core. Real great stuff!
Thank you, yeah I don't believe in dragging things out :)
What I've noticed aswell is that before Fan Zhendong uses the backhand flip on the receive, Ma Long is already on the left side of the table preparing for his own forehand, which is great place to be, since he can move to the left and right in an instant for big forehand shot, even if Fan sends it to the right, he just jumps there and still hits the forehand, and if he sends it more to the middle of his body, he just jumps left and still is able to forehand incoming ball.
yes he is incredible and has a special gift to be able to move and perceive the opponents placement so well.
Thanks for the great video. I like your style of presenting in an easy to understand way. I appreciate your way of teaching that let's you work to duplicate the techniques.
Thank you! That’s great that you understood the video, I try to use my best illustrations that I have learned worked when I work with people in a one on one setting. Putting them in videos has been pretty fun actually :)
This was the best video I’ve seen that explains these footwork concepts so easily. You’re very good at what you do!
Thank you! Glad you found it easy to understand I will make more soon!
Favorite video so far. Great explanation on moving. So many coaches just say "move" and never explain how.
Yeah there are a lot of little things that go into moving better in table tennis. I talk about how to move better when trying to backhand flip against serve in one of my “how I practice videos”
amazing, please have more similar content. never seen this kind of content anywhere on internet. thanks!
Nguyen Anh Quynh Thank you! Yes this is how I feel as well and why I decided to make this!
The best table tennis channel, bravo! 👏
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoy the videos!
your channel is amazing for table tennis players!
Thank you very much Im glad you enjoy the videos! more to come :)
thanks!!!
this is a very informative video for me as i am a intermediate player and i have so much to learn. thank you for the tutorial.
Glad you think so! best of luck to you
Thank you for sharing another quality video. Footwalk is a key to the become a good player.
Yes it is!
Nice of your video using the top players as an example to gain knowledge in footworks. Loved your videos.Great job!
Thanks glad you found it worth while:)
Verry gut thanks.
Thank you very much!
Great vídeo, great edition. Thanks for the tips. Many things we only see when somebody show us. I m going to share the video with friends. "See you in next vídeo", hahaha
Thank you! Yes table tennis knowledge can be hidden like that! That would be great! I’ll keep them coming 👍👍
Thanks for sharing. I really like the tip about FZD backwards cross step. I hadnt noticed that one before. This is a timely video because reviewing footage from recent my recent match play I noticed I move really awkwardly (poor weight transfer) in that situation. Thank-you!
Yeah the Fan movement is really special he redefined what moving could be for me.
Very interesting 👍😀
Thanks! 👍
Thank you very much for that Input Champ, A lot of people would want some Money for all those great topics from your Site. Wish you all the best
Thank you! Yeah I want to put out the info for anyone who wants to improve 👍👍
Please do more of it! This really is no one tells u series
Will do!! Working on it 👍
thx a lot sir
More on footwork please!!
Yes this is due for an update I will work on putting more info out on footwork in new videos
Thank you Boss
No problem glad you enjoyed!
Great!
Thanks M8! 👍
Hi pechpong, im from indonesia.. After see many pingpong channel on youtube.. i can say this is the best pingpong channel.. i m so blessed accidently found this pechpong channel.. thx so much.. i really like all your video and explaination.. thx so much 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you! I’m glad you think that! Hopefully you can improve from what I’ve learned :)
For sure.. thx a lot for ur video.. 👍👍
Best videos on tt to date. Huge problem on your footwork patterns around 3:40ish though, let me explain. Do not and i repeat do not cross your left foot first across your right leg when playing to a wide ball, this is completely out of balance and not efficient for next ball recovery.You must give it all you've got to try and recover balance and poise, hard to do when under pressure. 1. If the Ball is hit wide and fast to your forehand your first movements are BACK then ACROSS, YES, BACK then ACROSS. If you move ACROSS FIRST, the ball will catch up with you and you will be forced into the crossover feet position,NOT GOOD. That crossover is an ABSOLUTE last resort when you have no option left to try and save the point. 2. Your footwork patterns at around 6:0 mins. are absolutely spot on and are to be strongly encouraged by all, BACK then ACROSS here,beautiful footwork!
Thanks for the compliment! And also the in depth explanation on the proper footwork for when the ball goes wide to the forehand. I’ll make sure I do that 👍👍 thanks again and I’ll keep the content coming!
Thank you sir, it's the best series I've seen so far. It helps me to improve and reconsider everything I do by the table. The other day I spotted that I tend to change my grip slightly between forehand and backhand strokes. For a backhand one I try to fix my grip with my thumb. I was wondering if it's okay or normally people hold a racket in a fixed, steady way?
Thats normal, many great players actually most switch their grip for forehand and backhand if its too drastic of a change then maybe its hurting your game but normally a small change is ok and much practice will help speed up the transitions
Hey Seth...great video. I have been requesting persons do a video about "bouncing" footwork on in and out movement and between strokes. Maybe you could do so?
SMASH! Table Tennis thank you very much! This is an interesting topic, the bounce movement is a mechanism to keep the body in motion and give the legs the ability to spring as soon as the player knows where to go so the body does not become stationary. The small adjustments by bouncing are the small connecting bridges between the large movements.
Very good footwork video, you've solved one of my big problem
1. Proper footing for WIDE FOREHAND,
2. POWER STANCE AFTER SERVE, land same time WITH BOTH FEET
3. MOVING AROUND THE LEFT CORNER WITH SPACE
4. AFTER MOVING IN, PUSHING BACK WITH BOTH FEET (NO LAZY FOOT)
5. backwards FOREHAND CROSS STEP
no the video is in normal speed, I make the match reviews not so much to teach but to be open about how I view the game and hopefully you and others will get a reference point to base the way you play and see the game, I believe there is lack of dialogue in the sport and only want to be someone who adds to it to help others bounce ideas!
Great details and nice explanations, as usual! What helped me the most, was the 'pushing back with both feet' in order to get in position to attack the next ball. Of course sometimes i do it naturally. But i will focus on it in practice more. The hard part about it is, anticipating where your opponents move will go. Especially when he pushes back your push. As shown in the video, after you resettle with both feet, you stay far from the table. If your opponent pushes short, you must be very quick in order to get back in.
Question: do you just do this move, when your opponent attacks your push? Then it makes sense. You just have to be very quick, because the attack is mostly in a advantageous position due to the effect of surprise. Or do you use to generally, as some kind of hop in and out thing like oldschool american kickboxers were constantly bouncing on their feet?
I like how you pointed out ready position after the serve. Not only is that important to get ready for the opponents return but also it is a very important point in the entire service technique P.S. I would like see more guides and tutorials on table tennis
Hi yes you are right about the serve thing good point! what do you mean exactly by more guides and tutorials on tables? Thanks for the feedback!
PechPong TT I mean just keep doing what you are doing but some technique tutorials would be nice.
Got it! Will do 👍👍
Thank you Seth for sharing all this, I agree that your channel is the best on you tube so far! I wanted to suggest a new video for something that I couldn't find anywhere yet, which is what is the best stroke you can make upon the type of ball you receive. Like what you may do with a back and leftside spin ball. What are good and bad option? The easiest? the safest? I saw many advice on how to read the spin but not much on choosing a stroke upon that. While it's easy to top or push a backspin or block a topspin, the side, no spin (or floating, like against pimple and antitop) or cork spin make it hard to choose an appropriate stroke.
This is a very good idea! I am going to be doing a series of videos like this which cover what you speak about. I will break it down into separate areas such as long serves (receives how to and where to) as well as styles like pimples and stuff like that. Thanks for watching and the ideas
@@PechPongTT Thanks, you are really doing a great job, I'm looking forward to watch that!
Great content! I know my footwork doesn't exist. Hopefully I can improve!
thank you very much! yes you can improve! :)
@@PechPongTT I appreciate your confidence. :)
I wonder if you thought about an offline coaching? A student provides a video of his/her play (during a match or maybe a particular drill) and you provide feedback? I would use such a service :)
P.S. it is amazing to watch yourself recorded. The reality of viewing the play/technique/etc is so far removed from the mind eye's view it's scary! In reality, at least for me, the movements are slow and clunky, while imagining I'm playing at the Vladi's level :)
P.P.S. I received my Wallyboard rebounder yesterday and tried it out. I think it can be a great tool in developing a feeling/touch for the ball (besides the other uses like the stroke technique, etc.).
Hi !
Your videos are veeery intresting!!!
Can you share also some advices on robors....?
When to buy it how to use it?
How to choose one.......etc.
Thanks for all your advices!!🤗🤗
Great content. I've been playing for 5 years and I've never seen serve recovery split step stance mentioned. Definitely going to try it out!
Matty thank you! Yes it helps get ready faster and be more explosive for sure, good luck!!
It is nice video. It will be great if you could cover the practices (For example steps climbing) to improve different types of movements.
try salsa dancing, many of these steps are covered and will make them feel natural
Hi Seth,
You instructions are excellent. It will be great if you could create a series focused on how to improve your playing skills practicing with a robot. Eg.
TT Robot 101 - Moving Skills
TT Robot 102 - Forehand Looping
Etc etc.
I really like that Idea, I will put that down in my book for video ideas! Thank you :)
Thanks Seth, the only problem with you vids they are very forehand oriented. I’m naturally backhand oriented player and now my forehand footwork becomes better that make more shots forehand. Not that I’m complaining, it’s a nice problem to have rather than having bad sides 😂
I just wish there are contents as good as yours for backhand players so I can go back to be backhand dominant lol.
Yes I do like to take forehand and see everything from the aspect of finding a forehand. Maybe I can one day make a video about BH tactics in games!!
What a surprise video. Makes me think about moving and what the pros do in a whole different light. How much do you use the robot in a week? It's great for working on this stuff.
wilkinru Glad I could shed some light on something new for you! I probably use it twice a week for about an hour and a half each session going through various detail facets of my game. The robot can be a great tool if you can be creative and know how to use it. Be very specific and you can learn many new feelings and techniques.
smart content
Zev Libin thanks man! Trying to put some good ideas out there for everyone!
@@PechPongTT good luck with your channel! how old were you when you started playing, if you don't mind me asking?
Dang, really nice content. Could you do a video on the short game? A lot of advice I see is just "push or flick it" but something more in depth would be great.
thresholden oooooo great Idea, yes I can do that! Thanks for the compliment 👍
@@PechPongTT Really appreciate the video ! You definitely put a lot of precious information in it. I have heard some pro talking about receiving with the spin of the ball or against the spin of the ball( not sure my description is precise or not). I would like to hear more insight from you about this topic. Thanks!
Bill Hsu this is a good topic and yes I can talk about with and against and some details on that.
@@PechPongTT Some details about the body part for bh top spin in different distance from the table would be great too:) A lot of information about the arm part( fix the elbow, free your wrist... etc) out there, but I found it really difficult to exchange from a block/counterhit and a top spin smoothly.
p.s. I really like your back hand motion , though I think you are a fh oriented player!? 🤔
Bill Hsu I like where you were thinking I’m currently making a backhand video and it covers pretty much exactly those topics!! Yes I am a forehand oriented player but I have tried to improve my backhand over the years.
Good
Thank you!
I think you learn to bounce around with your calf muscles in squat position automatically when you play a lot of table tennis, instead of shuffeling the legs, crossing them and whatnot.
Hi yes you are right that’s what happened for me, when I work with students sometimes it take much repetition and practice to achieve it or else they stay flat footed
Great video! Awesome content, but I want to point out few things:
1. After moving in, push back with both feet is completely wrong. When you push in your body weight is forward on your dominant (hand) foot, and therefore you push with that foot. What XX does is to push with his left foot, get to normal stance, jump back with both feet to prepare counter.
2. The last FZD footwork, you somewhat get the idea of the footwork but you don't seem to understand the point. This footwork is done when you're on the ready to hit position (weight already shifted to dominant foot; you didn't do this with the robot) but the ball comes towards your body (elbow). The point of this footwork is to allow you to transfer weight as much as possible on your topspin rather than doing passive stroke.
Thanks for your insight, you seem to have a good understanding of the why and how of moving in table tennis!
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This is definitely the thinking guy/gal's table tennis channel. Lots of value shared, and lots more to come. You have an instant subscriber right there :)
I have a tip for you, as I think you're open-minded enough to consider it: your physical strength can get in the way of your technique (how efficiently you use your body) and just because you CAN make a very decent and reasonably powerful stroke relying on muscle strength - sometimes you do... What I would encourage you to try (as an "experiment" of sorts) is to PRETEND you were NOT-strong, like a child that has not yet developed their full strength and therefore MUST use their "force from the goround-up", efficient weight transfer and rotation to generate the power for the stroke, and naturally follow through with their playing arm in a super-relaxed and "loose" manner (as they don't have the strength to "fake/force" it anyway) (NB: "loose" like in track and field sprinting events - brief generation of power, followed by deliberate relaxation).
(For the record, I am nowhere near your level, and will likely never reach it - and yet I feel there's value in you trying this "fake weakness => forced looseness" experiment)
Thank you for the tips and the compliments on the content :)) I will keep working on improving the game, I am trying to use more body and less brute strength, as well as adjusting my racket angle like a kid does to loop the underspin instead of forcing it over with so much spin. Thanks again 📈
Please make video on chop block
Noted
hi, another very unusual and very nice, useful tuitorial video.
i wonder if you would like to share your mrmories or experiences on the psychological side of being a competitive sportsman. like what kind of life does it demand, how do you mentally prepare yourself for the tournaments and each matches, your thoughts during the matches when things look ok or vice versa
thank you.
i am playing for fun and don't really enjoy playing for points as it ruins my play dramatically, as i find it difficult to handle psychologically. but i really admire people who can cope this cgallenge
Hi thank you for the compliments and the amazing video Idea I will mark that one down in my TH-cam ideas book! Playing competitively especially when it’s for money is a different animal.
@@PechPongTT i guess it may attract attention from a wide audience, especially if it includes topics let's say what chiese, europeans or americans are doing differently,
or your personal comments on some historical matches or instances within matches. i sometimes watch those matches but plays are very fast and every point looks similar, bum bum and over. can not really see what goes on...tactics and so on
your own matches that you can not forget for both your remorses or how you turned it around and could win
thanks 👍
@@PechPongTT i have been living in thailand for some years now. once when i was back to my home country (turkey) , a cousin of mine asked me how it was living in thailand and i started telling him this and that but soon realized it wasn't as much amazing as it normally would have been. as i thougt on the reason, i figured out because my cousin had never been there and he had nothing to add or comment on my stories.
on the other hand when i am together with people living in thailand, we easily engage in very fun chat about living in that country as we all know what it means and have experience.
what i mean sometimes such narrations become much better when conducted with a friend from the same field or experience, filling the gaps or bringing in other perspectives or memories...back and forth, fun, friendly chat.
Talking about "after moving in pushing back", pushing back with both feet help if the ball is long after short push , but if the ball is short again what happen ? if i move both feet i have to do 2 steps , left forward right forward , if i move only the right back is 1 step , right back right forward, if you watch Fang in the last video he move only the right leg , so i belive is a problem of intuition about how the ball will come after a short push , or how much are you fast in moving your legs, not everyone as Xu Xin rapidity , or is good when you push long a short ball, thank you to give opportunities to discuss and analyze ttennis particular aspects.
Hey yeah good observation, Peter Karlsson talked about this with me and I believe that he was referring to the ability to use both feet, like some players forget that they have both points of contact on the ground that they can use to move back if they believe they need to.
Hello, could you shed some light on spacing? Like moving forward or back. I tend to stay in a sweet spot where I can barely touch the table with my paddle. I catch myself not moving back unless I make a really big mistake then I move back 5 steps preparing for a smash. Any tips on how to gauge how far you need to be from the table?
Yeah that’s a good question to be honest I’m figuring more about that right now, if you watch in my matches I tend to go further back and go strait to the lobbing strategy instead of staying a little closer and trying to block, I think a large part of it is you ability to block if it’s good you can stay closer if it’s still improving like mine then maybe a little more back is safer. Obviously if you can stay close and block it would be an advantage. Hope that starts to get some wheels turning.
Hello! I had a question about pushing with both feet when retreating from the table. After the step in to receive a serve, should you take a small step back (so your feet are now even) and then retreat by pushing with both feet, or do you go for the big jump back immediately after the step in? In the clips it looks like Xu Xin does it both ways (first immediately jumping back, and then taking a small step back followed by a big step back). I've been doing the two step movement, but was wondering if I should be doing the 1 step movement you demonstrated. Thanks for the video!
Follow Xu Xin he is the master of moving!!
How do we move forward to hit a ball when we are back of the table
Hi coach, hope u have a good day. I think your movement in the backward forehand cross step is a bit false in comparison to the original version of FZD. I saw in the video FZD hit the ball with normal movement of a forehand stroke but he generated greater power to move cross from his right leg to the left while i think you only use your upper body.. Its just my personal view, sorry i got yours wrong, im just a boy who really loves table tennis but not too good at it. Btw, your videos are really helpful, clear and effective, thank you!
No problem I’m glad you can analyze and come up with good ideas hope you keep watching my videos :)
Yes it’s the best Chanel of ping pong, for intermediate to advanced players, maybe some professional players will find it helpful too. Over time I have seen “23,000 rating” players who make a lot of wrong movements, they play so good because they play 2-4 hours per day every fucking day, it’s insane 😂 and they still have wrong movements.
Look like Xu Xin uses 2 steps for pushing back.
Yes, I guess what I mean is that he actively uses both feet to move, too often people and me only use one foot when pushing back
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So i have a question: How do you fix something permanently? I feel like my level goes up but also down. Its very demoralising. I think i may just need a coach but do you have any other tips?
I have the same problem honestly, I write down in my notebook all the things I’m working on and revisit older themes to keep them fresh, getting better I feel can be hard because your always revisiting old things while trying to add new skills Into your game.
@@PechPongTT The tip about recovering with both feet is extremely useful. I tried it last night and i nearly won against someone I lost 3-0 to last time. Do you think there is such a thing as talent or do you think everything can just be trained?
@@bronzong91 fan zhendong is a good example of how training can take you far, nowadays he's much more creative but a few years ago he was incredibly robotic and consistent which is clearly a result of a lot of effective practice.
Awesome tips. But make one that's more basic. These are too advanced even for me and I am almost 2200