I saw it as kinda heroic in a way. “Through the fire and the billowing smoke, one figure emerges. Clad in T-65 Power Armor and wielding Maxon’s Gatling Laser. The Brotherhood of Steel Sentinel stood above the wreckage of the Prydwen, practically inviting the institute synths to face him. As the mechanical monstrosities charged forward, the Sentinel readies his Gatling Laser and whispers ‘For the Brotherhood’ as he opens fire on the advancing horde.”
@@Bimgus_The_Great General of the Minutemen: Minutemen, Smoke deployed. Target locked. Fire every artillery battery on the Prydwen. Let's finish those xenophobic fascists off once and for all!
@@garrettg2747 too bad I can't actually use the Xbox links because my Xbox does not like my internet does not like my Xbox Also never buy HughesNet it's not worth it A lot of TH-camrs that do mods do in things like that to try to give you links if they can But the way TH-cam is in its current moment sometimes you don't get the links because TH-cam threw up strike on them for having a link to something Just got to be careful
At this rate, Power Armor has become Fallout's Terminators, just endless new models and numbers. Gonna bet Fallout 5 will have the T-99 Power Armor, a sentient suit of near-indestructible power armor that has the consciousness of John Henry Eden, Jr. uploaded onto it.
@@khylerrodriguez1443 Search your feelings Kyler, you know it is the truth. Join the Minutemen and together we can help the Commonwealth and end the Brotherhood who steal!
It would make more lore sense if this suit was found inside the Railroads old HQ that was a secret facility by the US Government in the first place inside the vault you open up at the end of that quest.
Compared to where it was, you're right. However, the Switchboard was an equivalent CIA facility, not Treasury. Although, off the top of my head, that'd be as good as a hiding spot as any...
In terms of shoehorning it into 4, that works, but far and away the most logical place for this to exist would be in Fort Constantine in the Capital Wasteland, in Fallout 3. It never made a lick of sense *(from a lore perspective, it kinda makes sense from an IRL perspective at the time, being basically an Easter egg)* how only a single suit of the mass produced T-51b, which is basically just the F-15 of Power Armor, exists in the Capital of the country, and that it has such heavy security, being locked in with a couple dozen nuclear bombs and a *fucking ICBM,* the game treats it like a top-secret prototype...so it should actually be one, especially with something that was specifically designed to protect the president. That's an idea for the remaster.
There's a mod I used called "America Rising" and it's a fully voice acted mod for an enclave quest line. It may still have a few bugs and annoying problems but it's really well made. Even has clothing and weapons in the mod itself but nothing too lore breaking. Kinda.... Basically a nice fit for the enclave if there was a faction in Boston.
@@anarchyantz1564 yep. Supposedly a "hidden" section of the vault. Vault door there is just a bit southwest of where you are in the irradiated water I think. I still found it interesting but strange mostly tbh. Unsure why they'd keep some part of the government in a cryo vault. I mean they could've put em in another vault entirely but it's still interestinf
The Secret Service still does investigate counterfeiting, monitors the gold reserves, and such. Protecting politicians is a historical quirk, a side mission for them.
This makes me think that Frank Horrigan's power armor is a more "Specialized, Super Secret Service" type... only the Super part is because that he's a Super Mutant.
Yeah, honestly? Given the in-world government/enclaves whole jam? It makes a LOT of sense why a superior armor would be reserved for the secret service and not frontline troops; horrible, evil, 'bastard logic', as my old man would call it.
Well the thing is, while the power armors aren’t exactly the same, the T-65 and Frank Horrigan’s power armor share many design aspects with each other. The basic helmet shape is very similar, the only big difference being the tube placement, the pauldrons share more similarities with the T-65 rather than the enclave’s advanced PA. It just makes me think that Frank’s suit was made using heavily modified pieces of T-65.
I honestly think Bethesda should name it just "Secret Service PA". Because T-series PA it's a military PA, which was mass produced for soldiers, but this armor is obviously was not mass produced and was created for secret agents
When I first saw that Bethesda had added another power armor to fallout 76, I was reticent to accept it was even cannonical. However, your lore videos, Oxhorn, and this one have changed my mind and I now find the existence of the T-65 even logical. As you said, this suit was never actually built, just like the X-01, so then it is possible that separate agencies of the federal government ordered the construction of different suits to West-Tek. The Army ordered the construction of the X-01, the National Guard ordered the T-60 and the Secret Service ordered the T-65. As, of the three the T-60 was the least technically demanding, it was the only one that was actually finished and deployed in a small scale (this would be because it was designed for police and crowd control, not actual military combat). But, anyway, great video, Ox, it was a pleasure watching it, as always!
The T-60 was canonically just released. When they got close to finishing the T-60 they probably started to develop T-65, so it makes sense that the armor was only in plans at the time, probably only constructed and tested by dwellers of 76.
The power armor lore makes no sense, so it's best not to think about it. You can however fix it if you rename them. T-60 becomes T-45A1 T-65 becomes the T-60. That also fixes the T-51 lore.
Same, you know how bad I want 76 weapons in fallout 4? Preston would be Dope walking around with the Dagon(4 barreled musket) and paladin danse would totally rock the .50
Talk about a throwback. Didn’t expect a F4 Mod Muster anytime soon😅 as for the SS in 76, before before wastelanders, I was always under the impression that the Secret Service and select political officials where what made up the Enclave, so can anyone correct that confusion? I also still don’t get why Bethesda didn’t say that the T-60 was developed by the Brotherhood after defeating the Enclave in the capitol and seizing/studying old Enclave tech.
@@masinary1261 So the SS and the Enclave are two separate factions with the same post war goals, where the service takes orders from the Enclave? I wonder why the Appalachian Secret Service fell under the radar of the Appalachian Enclave..
@@TicklishWhisker I really needed a second to get that with SS in this context you mean Secret Service.. Well it can always happen that when the bombs dropped, some Groups of Agents like the ones in Vault 79 simply couldn't get to the Enclave. I mean most of communications where dead and as we see in many Vaults or bunkers where they talk about how the sensors above ground are all dead. And if I remember correctly the Agents in 79 even talk say that they haven't got any other orders or even comunications from any remaining politicans. For the T60 i can see 2 reasons. Either they simply didn't thought about how it would fit, as Anchorage was the first big field test for the T51 or they explain it with the fact that T60 and X01 were both further developed Version of the T51 but the T60 got further/better result so they made a fabrication line to produce them in mass and replace the T51 versions but didnt got them out to the troops until the bombs dropped. So the BoS simply repaired the fabrication halls of the t60 and stated to fit their troops in it. Im not even sure if they use the T60 in Fallout 3 already, but if im not mistaken the only one you can get there is t51
@@Borntoodie T-60 didn’t come around until fallout 4. In fallout 3 you had T-45’s and the enclave had their X-01 and Tesla armors but if you completed the Anchorage DLC or did a mission with a ghoul you could end up with 2 suits of winterized T-51. As for the communications thing you mentioned that could make sense as to why, but with how you can find a Tesla version of the T-60 I feel like it would’ve made more sense that the brotherhood learned the technology to produce the armor in the capitol wasteland after the endgame DLC or something along the lines of that. Broken steel I think it was called? Idk why they didn’t go that route. Would’ve made me think the brotherhood was more advanced than they were. Sucks to hear that all the did was build a blimp out of that orbital platform..
@@masinary1261 Being as how minor of a faction the secret service are, it either surprises me that they made it as diverse as it is with different sub factions, or it doesn’t surprise me at all because it could be chalked up to lazy writing lol
I’d like to think that someone’s player character bought the plans for the T-65, built it, then traveled to the commonwealth by boat but then something happened to said player character (maybe the Mirelurks in the castle killed him?) while he was still out on the water and hence there is a full T-65 suit in the water outside the Castle.
wtf an Oxhorn Mod Spotlight? What year is this? lolol I just reinstalled Fallout 4 the other day and slapped all the Capital Wasteland mods on it with some other flair to make it more "New Vegasy" and it's been pretty fun.
I would like to see Ox do a mod muster on Sim Settlements 2. Im playing through the story of that right now. Its more like a real DLC then most mods even those that themselves are like official DLC. Bunch of voiced NPC's to talk to, Stuff to unlock. And naturally the settlement stuff.
I find it interisting to how similiar it looks to a warhammer 40k Astartes battle plate, especially one adapted for use by a Space Marine Chaplain with it's skull like helmet faceplate.
14:50 footies dont need expensive gear, good enough is good enough thats why the regular grunts didnt get any fancy shiny power armor like the t65, development cost was already high, mass production would just increase it further; especially with the us realising too late that the final price is gonna be payed soon
A lore-friendly interpretation of Bethesda making new models of Power Armor in new games is that the more advanced versions required new tooling in the factories, or that the existing factories for the older models drove the cost-per-unit down. Taking all the factories offline for a major refit for every new version doesn't make mush sense when they are already struggling to meet demand, but it did for the upgrade to using modular components on a standardized frame anyone could use instead of needing to have specialized under-layers and extra training. The X-models of armor are from an eXperimental branch where they tried radically new things in small batches to keep the costs down, which explains why they are so different, but the T-series are the refined versions that saw production. It even fits with available lore. That's one of the fun things about logistics. It's so closely tied to statistics that you can explain away anything while still sounding plausible.
I feel like the Minutemen paint job is super bland, like it’s all rust with the Minutemen on it, probably should have made it blue and more American if u know what I mean
It seems to me to meld well with the Minutemen aesthetic - minimally prettied up, practical but not beautiful (much like laser muskets and the Castle).
Works for me. The Minutemen are after all citizen soldier militias. Not the sort of people to have full time armory officers buffing out all the rust and dings and such. Just slap the logo on, make sure it works, and have it available because otherwise they're busy farming or something.
The Secret Service performs a lot of different functions. I don't like that they keep retconning the power armor lore, but it makes sense that the secret service would be there.
i don't really see adding additional armors as a "Retcon" tbh. at best it's expanding the lore and adding new options for gameplay, and at it's worst it's mildly inconveniencing the Wiki mods. the fallout lore is sparse in certain areas like power armor, and expansion doesn't hurt the setting, regardless of what the salty crybabies whine about.
They don’t really retcon power armor lore aside from it being modular and built around a standardized frame, which makes more sense from an engineering standpoint anyway
I just had a thought, when you were saying it’s not lore friendly to find T-65 under a rowboat in Boston, what’s to say someone didn’t bring it to Boston? The events of Fallout 4 take place much later than that of 76, so it’s entirely possible someone made the journey with built armour.
15:12 Its also possible that if the T-65 is designed for use by the Secret Service, it most likely had a completely different set of requirements to the T-45, T-51 and X-02 armors. Probably something like, the military suits are designed to prioritize "fuel" economy, user comfort and long term durability because they would be given to soldiers that could not reasonably expect to just knock off work every couple hours, while the Secret service armor prioritizes shorter term benefits, quicker to enter/exit, better speed enhancement and shear brute strength, because its not meant for prolonged operations and the power armor trained agents aren't meant to wear it all that often.
I've missed your FO4 Mod Muster vids. Great to finally see a new one. On a seperate note, I've been rewatching your Mothership Zeta vids, which got me thinking: How about a vid that covers a general history of the pre-war world's history with space travel and alien life. Not just Arcjet and Repconn, but also the lore from FO3 and 76. Not to mention the wall art in the Museum of Freedom, which has a lot of interesting lore implications.
It is possible that a prototype suit of t-65 was sent to fort strong for testing, similar to the t-51b, but was hidden in the water near Fort Independence when the bombs dropped to keep it out of the hands of the raiders and gunners. The mirelurks would’ve kept most people away from the area, as well as kept the Minutemen out of the water. It would be doubly risky to try and retrieve it, as they’d be at risk of both mirelurk attack and drowning
Possible explaination: The T-65 was really expensive to build. Like it used rarer and more expensive materials then any other power armor before or after. Hence why the enclave opted to develop the X-01 and X-02 using more common and less expensive materials. Something they could manufacture more easily on that oil rig without having to worry about the materials that where hard to get that the T-65 required. Just an theory I tossed together.
Perhaps one of the vault dwellers from Vault 76 had family in the Boston area, and travelled there in the T-65. Fallout 4 takes place over 180 yeara after the events of Fallout 76, anything could be possible.
The suit exists in Boston because during the period of the 76 game someone bought the plans (as in the game) then relocated to Boston where they hid it in pond as they got older so it wouldn't be stolen.
Not sure if you’ll see this Ox, but I appreciate your fallout 4 videos a lot. I’ve just managed to get into medical school, but those nights where I needed to relax from studying, I always put on fallout 4 on my PS4 and watch your videos on my laptop at the same time. To even have a new fallout 4 video today is really sweet, again thank you Ox.
What makes me sad is the fact that the characters in fo76 are all dead we would see them in a any other fallout game or unless they make a another prequel
I’m pretty sure they based the model numbers on the years when the US actually updated a lot of their gear. 1951; 1960; 1965. Maybe just a coincident 🤷🏻♂️
Ox, you should do a fallout bestiary spanning all of the games. Explaining how all of the crazy wasteland critters came to be. If anyone can do it justice it'd be you my friend!
The very few bestiary vids out there are sub par at best. Oxhorn would do amazing with this idea. Make shorter videos as theres probably not a ton of lore other than how they evolved, what they evolved from, etc. But theres a ton of content there just due to the amount of different creatures in the universe. This could be a good placeholder while waiting for the next fallout game. I'd watch
Glad to see you're doing well Ox! You should do a series on fascinating little unmarked landmarks around the Commonwealth, or fascinating situations: for example, pipes sticking out of the ground, areas on top of Lexington we'd normally never see... and so on!
I think a lore answer would be that a Vault 76 resident who acquired it or a descendent/thief made a journey to the commonwealth from Appalachia with the power armor then for some reason scuttled it at the bottom of the pond/lake near the castle to prevent it from falling into some groups hands.
@@SinastarCross "Courier 6 is a half Mutant made from the DNA of the Vault Dweller!" Yeah totally lore friendly and not a slap to the face to what made New Vegas an interesting story/s
You could make the argument that the T-65 in the mod was an early prototype suit being sent to Boston for initial testing at Fort Strong, as in-lore the T-51 also went through prototype trials there.
Heres my lore, it is in the water by the castle because it was abandoned by the minute men when the castle fell to mirlurks. And was found in the basement of the Massachusetts state house
I think maybe one of the reasons why t65 may have never been given out to Frontline troops was just how expensive it was. So they made a few suits for special operatives in the secret service and kept the plans on file. And the one being found under the robo and Boston could be explained that the Treasury department sent out special operatives and power armor after the bombs dropped to secure financial institutions.
I wonder why Bethesda didn't take a chance to reference Fallout 2 in this power armor. Since Frank is a member of the secret service. Of course, Frankie undoubtedly had custom everything, since none of his normal gear would have fit after FEV.
I feel like the power armor should’ve been located in different places depending on the faction you chose. If you chose the railroad you find it in the switchboard, if you chose the brotherhood it’s in that place in the glowing sea where you get the bombs, if you chose the minutemen you find it in the castle armory or the underground area of the castle, and if you chose the institute they send you to the house in the glowing sea with the bunker inside of it with all the synths and the power armor.
Hey Ox, loved the video. I just want to point out that real world Secret Service was still under the Treasury Dept all the way up until 2003. It was at that point that they were transferred to Homeland Security were they operate a national series of Electronic Crimes Task Forces (ECTFs). Basically they investigate white collar, economic and technological crimes... so Fall Out's Secret Service still being in charge of the gold reserve does make at least cursory sense.
So, this is for Oxhorn. The reason the BoS paint scheme is like that is because the symbol on the front is that of the Appalachian Brotherhood, meaning that suit was created and used by the ABoS, and made it's way over to Boston independently, or the BoS only knows how to paint it as the Appalachian Brotherhood did
You also have to consider that Fallout 76 takes place WAY before Fallout 4, so maybe an explanation for T-65 being found around the wasteland is from those that found the plans for the T-65 power armor, produced it, and traveled to the Boston area.
The USSS is still part of the Treasury and they do still combat counterfeiting. The protection of the president and VP is their most obvious work, but they also investigate counterfeiting operations.
Actually, I think you almost had it there Ox. As for why there would be a built suit in the Commonwealth, I'd say someone who had the plans, maybe a Vault 76 player, built the suit! From there, armor like that could wind up anywhere, I mean it's just as likely as a suit of X-02 Power Armor making it's way into the Glowing Sea. All that would need to happen is for the armor to change hands over 200-ish years, going from place to place remaining mostly intact due to it's superior spec. Eventually, it's last owner before the Lone Survivor ditching it near The Castle for one reason or another, and perishing before they could retrieve it. Anyway, that's my take on it. Honestly this is more than Lore Friendly enough for me. Thanks for the showcase!
Oxhorn, finding a t-65 (secret service power armor) in boston would kinda make sense since fallout 76 is years before Fallout 4. and one from apalacha might have traveled to boston for all we know.
Now I know the Canon of the T60, and it's lacking but I think my headcanon makes some sense. The T45 comes out as the first practical use powerarmor. Then in 2076, the T51 is released as the most advanced suit of combat power armor. At the same time, old worn T45 suits are given to mining companies for experimentation, thus giving the excavator power armor. In early 2077, with the T51 being standard issue for shock troops, the US starts looking to improve its stocks of T45 that no longer have a main use. So the US refits old T45 suits with heavier armor and beefed hydrolics. This new T60 suit is perfect for sentry duty. This armor is heavy and sluggish like the T45 but provides better protection than the T51. Meaning the US military can save resources that it vitally needs by just refitting old T45 suits. The brotherhood would later discover the documents describing the procedure and blueprints, allowing them to refit all the suits on the east coast chapter to T60 spec. Around the same time as the T60 development, the Secret service, nervous about potential nuclear war and the need for extreme protection measures, begins researching on the most advanced suits they can get a hold of, the T51A, with T51Bs still being in short supply and state of the art, the T51A is the best they can get. The Secret Service being a much smaller force doesn't have the same resource restrictions of the Army, with only a hundred or so special agents to be armed, they can afford to equip the suit with more advanced and rare protective technologies. Thus the T65 prototype was developed. The T65 in small numbers ends up in Control station enclave and became the test bed for the advanced power armor suit and the X01. Long read, but in my mind, that's how I see powerarmor development in Fallout
As others have said, the Secret Service still is part of the Department of the Treasury and its primary mission is still to combat counterfeiting. At least IRL, not sure about Fallout. I'd imagine the T-65 was probably freshly off the testing grounds and was probably earmarked for presidential security initially due to the rioting increasing. Plus waiting for more to be built for proper deployment to the armed forces. Most suits were probably turned to slag when the White House was turned into a crater. The X-01 was likely still in the prototype/testing stage. Not officially ready.
The T-65 Should be a prototype to the secret service after the sucess of T-45d Custom known as T-60, only in total 15 prototypes weremade and the Enclave dindt get time to retrieve the Schematic, even in adams air force they couldn't find one, soo ispossible the T-65 should be lore friendly but only found in major city and even DC would have 1
I theorize that the T-65 is the ancestor to the MK2 suit of the Enclave. I think they found schematics intel on the T-65 and advanced the design even further. MK2 was first used officially in 2241, which is 138 years after Fallout 76. And they could have found more intel on their journey through the wastes into the East as well since Appalachia is part of Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania, which are all in the path to getting to DC. Or if not direct contact, perhaps the Enclave had agents in the secret service, undercover all that time during the war and in it's aftermath.
Its possible the Secret Service is separate form the Enclave's version. That is, the Enclave Secret Service is its own entity created post-war as the entirety (iirc) of the Secret Service was stationed at V79.
I just got my T-65 and Secret Service Armor. Now I'm probably going to get the Plasma Caster. If the T-65 anywhere it should have been found in Fallout 3 in Washington D.C. at the white house.
One way for it to make sense, would be if a 76 Dweller with the plans eventually had made their way to Boston, or at least if their armor had by whatever means.
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It's good to see *"Oxhorn's Mod Muster"* back again.
Its been a good min. I've missed these videos. Nice and nostalgic.
I was scared this was creation club content lol
Agreed 👍. Missed this series
Missed these got all my Fallout mods thanks to Oxhorn
Yes
*Shows brotherhood paint scheme*
*Also has destroyed Prydwen in the backround*
It was the only way to be sure.
I saw it as kinda heroic in a way.
“Through the fire and the billowing smoke, one figure emerges. Clad in T-65 Power Armor and wielding Maxon’s Gatling Laser. The Brotherhood of Steel Sentinel stood above the wreckage of the Prydwen, practically inviting the institute synths to face him. As the mechanical monstrosities charged forward, the Sentinel readies his Gatling Laser and whispers ‘For the Brotherhood’ as he opens fire on the advancing horde.”
@@Bimgus_The_Great Makes sense in a way
@@Bimgus_The_Great General of the Minutemen: Minutemen, Smoke deployed. Target locked. Fire every artillery battery on the Prydwen. Let's finish those xenophobic fascists off once and for all!
@@Bimgus_The_Great reminds me of that one dude preparing the face the Klan. Can't remember his name though, please remind me.
It’s cool to see more fallout 4 and another mod muster
I hope so because it's one of my top favorite series that he does that just kind of comes and goes
@@ethanwhisman5459 ikr ox is so entertaining when he does them and it’s great that he puts Xbox links too
@@garrettg2747 too bad I can't actually use the Xbox links because my Xbox does not like my internet does not like my Xbox
Also never buy HughesNet it's not worth it
A lot of TH-camrs that do mods do in things like that to try to give you links if they can
But the way TH-cam is in its current moment sometimes you don't get the links because TH-cam threw up strike on them for having a link to something
Just got to be careful
I know he’s already covered like everything in vanilla Fallout 4, but like maybe a creation club every once in a while
The thing I would love to see him cover for his Minutemen character is the militarized Minutemen mod along with Zach's Minutemen patches
At this rate, Power Armor has become Fallout's Terminators, just endless new models and numbers. Gonna bet Fallout 5 will have the T-99 Power Armor, a sentient suit of near-indestructible power armor that has the consciousness of John Henry Eden, Jr. uploaded onto it.
Bro that sounds awesome
yea that sound amazing, id love to walk around the wastes with president eden
Put that on, attach a jetpack and now you're the Iron Man of Fallout
Considering the wacky wasteland of Fallout 2, that sounds like something Black Isle would've come up with eventually
technically speaking there was a suit back in fallout 3 with.. limited intelligence
Maxon: Proctor, what do the records say about her Power Armor??
Teagen: It’s T-over9000!
Maxon: WHAT 9000!?
Nice
Me wearing it:KAMEEEEE HAAAAMEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAA *PRYDWEN EXPLODES*
@@genjibeeps998 That's liberty prime 😅
Arnold Schwarzenegger: *Well dats stronga dan tha TEE-Wun-ThaAL-OL-AL-OL-Zun.*
Arnold Schwarzenegger: *Well dats stronga dan tha TEE-Wun-ThaAL-OL-AL-OL-Zun.*
"most players will never get a full suit of T-65"
literally everyone at Scorched Earth: *allow us to introduce ourselves*
A lot of players spend their gold on other stuff. Like the secret service armor.
* Scorched earth starts *
F76 players: gatling plasma,laser ,fixers go brrr
@@curie0039 The Gauss Minigun.
@@CdrChaos its a minority because the ammo is expensive af but yeah there's some
@@curie0039 Ammo Factory. I routinely carry 20k in ammo for my heavy weapons.
Lol I love the crashed prydwen in the back as you show case the brotherhood of steel paint job.
Best place for them :D
Ad Victori.....uh....... wait
I will pretend its pretend what we just saw.
@@khylerrodriguez1443 Search your feelings Kyler, you know it is the truth. Join the Minutemen and together we can help the Commonwealth and end the Brotherhood who steal!
I don't join factions I just kill whoever has a price on their head everyone is collateral
It would make more lore sense if this suit was found inside the Railroads old HQ that was a secret facility by the US Government in the first place inside the vault you open up at the end of that quest.
Compared to where it was, you're right. However, the Switchboard was an equivalent CIA facility, not Treasury. Although, off the top of my head, that'd be as good as a hiding spot as any...
wasnt fort strong a testing facility for power armor and mini nukes as well?
In terms of shoehorning it into 4, that works, but far and away the most logical place for this to exist would be in Fort Constantine in the Capital Wasteland, in Fallout 3.
It never made a lick of sense *(from a lore perspective, it kinda makes sense from an IRL perspective at the time, being basically an Easter egg)* how only a single suit of the mass produced T-51b, which is basically just the F-15 of Power Armor, exists in the Capital of the country, and that it has such heavy security, being locked in with a couple dozen nuclear bombs and a *fucking ICBM,* the game treats it like a top-secret prototype...so it should actually be one, especially with something that was specifically designed to protect the president. That's an idea for the remaster.
T-“over9000”
*chuckle accompanied by face palm*
Mod creators: Challenge accepted.
Saiyan Power Armor, includes armored tail piece
I would love a dragon ball power armor mod!
Hnngggg exactly
There's a mod I used called "America Rising" and it's a fully voice acted mod for an enclave quest line. It may still have a few bugs and annoying problems but it's really well made. Even has clothing and weapons in the mod itself but nothing too lore breaking. Kinda.... Basically a nice fit for the enclave if there was a faction in Boston.
Ah the Vault 111b.
@@anarchyantz1564 yep. Supposedly a "hidden" section of the vault. Vault door there is just a bit southwest of where you are in the irradiated water I think. I still found it interesting but strange mostly tbh. Unsure why they'd keep some part of the government in a cryo vault. I mean they could've put em in another vault entirely but it's still interestinf
Yea and there is a fcom t65 patch that adds secret service soldiers to enclave reinforcements. This goes well with America rising
Yeah, it was focused on fallout 2 enclave since it had the oil rig in one of the simulations. Be cool to see more of those enclave quest mods.
Ox : posted fallout 4 video in 2021
Me : wait, that's illegal
The Secret Service still does investigate counterfeiting, monitors the gold reserves, and such. Protecting politicians is a historical quirk, a side mission for them.
In FO4?
@@EmbeddedWithin No, in real life and fallout 4 I guess as I believe the Enclave has a Secret Service but I can't remember exactly.
@@WalrusWinking I don’t quite believe that as we don’t have a sliver of evidence that they do other than a few things
This makes me think that Frank Horrigan's power armor is a more "Specialized, Super Secret Service" type... only the Super part is because that he's a Super Mutant.
Yeah, honestly? Given the in-world government/enclaves whole jam? It makes a LOT of sense why a superior armor would be reserved for the secret service and not frontline troops; horrible, evil, 'bastard logic', as my old man would call it.
@@tomisabum poor Bastards, blown to bits in their Sheet metal, while the secret Service strutted around wearing these masterpieces
@Andrew K Bethesda introduced the Earliest Model in Fallout 3 (an inferior armor as the cover art oh my)
Well the thing is, while the power armors aren’t exactly the same, the T-65 and Frank Horrigan’s power armor share many design aspects with each other. The basic helmet shape is very similar, the only big difference being the tube placement, the pauldrons share more similarities with the T-65 rather than the enclave’s advanced PA. It just makes me think that Frank’s suit was made using heavily modified pieces of T-65.
I honestly think Bethesda should name it just "Secret Service PA". Because T-series PA it's a military PA, which was mass produced for soldiers, but this armor is obviously was not mass produced and was created for secret agents
Just give it another series of power armor for classes of PA like Police PA, Fire Fighter PA and Secret Service PA.
When I first saw that Bethesda had added another power armor to fallout 76, I was reticent to accept it was even cannonical. However, your lore videos, Oxhorn, and this one have changed my mind and I now find the existence of the T-65 even logical. As you said, this suit was never actually built, just like the X-01, so then it is possible that separate agencies of the federal government ordered the construction of different suits to West-Tek. The Army ordered the construction of the X-01, the National Guard ordered the T-60 and the Secret Service ordered the T-65. As, of the three the T-60 was the least technically demanding, it was the only one that was actually finished and deployed in a small scale (this would be because it was designed for police and crowd control, not actual military combat). But, anyway, great video, Ox, it was a pleasure watching it, as always!
The T-60 was canonically just released. When they got close to finishing the T-60 they probably started to develop T-65, so it makes sense that the armor was only in plans at the time, probably only constructed and tested by dwellers of 76.
The X-01 was actually a pre war PA one of the last X series that was built before the bomb drop, nuka world proved that
The X-01 was designed and built pre-war, it was just never mass produced due to manufacturing complications and the bombs
The power armor lore makes no sense, so it's best not to think about it.
You can however fix it if you rename them.
T-60 becomes T-45A1
T-65 becomes the T-60.
That also fixes the T-51 lore.
It doens't is just Oxhorn trying to justifice the shitty lore of F76 in to the Main canon
“Finding a built suit in under a rowboat in Boston wouldn’t make sense” what if one of the 76ers came to Boston and lost the suit in the water?
Yeah that is what I was thinking. Could have put in something like a note on the boat about it.
Maybe it was left there at low tide? Or the sea level was lower when the armor was left?
I kinda wish this kind of stuff would be put into creation club (I’m a playstation user)
That's unfortunate, you guys can't get shit for mods. Just one of the perks of being on Xbox with games like these. Sony doesn't let shit through
Poor soul
Me to Lil, me to
Same, you know how bad I want 76 weapons in fallout 4? Preston would be Dope walking around with the Dagon(4 barreled musket) and paladin danse would totally rock the .50
Same. Fucking hate sony.
Our old fiend Frank Horrigan was United States Secret Service, wonder if the Enclave would have made him a custom suit if they got it up and running.
Who said they didn’t?
We never did recover his power armor in fallout 2. Maybe they had similar components.
Talk about a throwback. Didn’t expect a F4 Mod Muster anytime soon😅
as for the SS in 76, before before wastelanders, I was always under the impression that the Secret Service and select political officials where what made up the Enclave, so can anyone correct that confusion?
I also still don’t get why Bethesda didn’t say that the T-60 was developed by the Brotherhood after defeating the Enclave in the capitol and seizing/studying old Enclave tech.
The ss in appalachia was stuck down in some vault, seperate from the enclave.
@@masinary1261 So the SS and the Enclave are two separate factions with the same post war goals, where the service takes orders from the Enclave? I wonder why the Appalachian Secret Service fell under the radar of the Appalachian Enclave..
@@TicklishWhisker I really needed a second to get that with SS in this context you mean Secret Service.. Well it can always happen that when the bombs dropped, some Groups of Agents like the ones in Vault 79 simply couldn't get to the Enclave. I mean most of communications where dead and as we see in many Vaults or bunkers where they talk about how the sensors above ground are all dead. And if I remember correctly the Agents in 79 even talk say that they haven't got any other orders or even comunications from any remaining politicans.
For the T60 i can see 2 reasons. Either they simply didn't thought about how it would fit, as Anchorage was the first big field test for the T51 or they explain it with the fact that T60 and X01 were both further developed Version of the T51 but the T60 got further/better result so they made a fabrication line to produce them in mass and replace the T51 versions but didnt got them out to the troops until the bombs dropped. So the BoS simply repaired the fabrication halls of the t60 and stated to fit their troops in it.
Im not even sure if they use the T60 in Fallout 3 already, but if im not mistaken the only one you can get there is t51
@@Borntoodie T-60 didn’t come around until fallout 4. In fallout 3 you had T-45’s and the enclave had their X-01 and Tesla armors but if you completed the Anchorage DLC or did a mission with a ghoul you could end up with 2 suits of winterized T-51. As for the communications thing you mentioned that could make sense as to why, but with how you can find a Tesla version of the T-60 I feel like it would’ve made more sense that the brotherhood learned the technology to produce the armor in the capitol wasteland after the endgame DLC or something along the lines of that. Broken steel I think it was called? Idk why they didn’t go that route. Would’ve made me think the brotherhood was more advanced than they were. Sucks to hear that all the did was build a blimp out of that orbital platform..
@@masinary1261 Being as how minor of a faction the secret service are, it either surprises me that they made it as diverse as it is with different sub factions, or it doesn’t surprise me at all because it could be chalked up to lazy writing lol
Only a matter of time till:
T-69 Power Armor for the bedroom and beyond
I loved how for each faction paint scheme you used different themes for each one to represent their style.
I’d like to think that someone’s player character bought the plans for the T-65, built it, then traveled to the commonwealth by boat but then something happened to said player character (maybe the Mirelurks in the castle killed him?) while he was still out on the water and hence there is a full T-65 suit in the water outside the Castle.
wtf an Oxhorn Mod Spotlight? What year is this? lolol I just reinstalled Fallout 4 the other day and slapped all the Capital Wasteland mods on it with some other flair to make it more "New Vegasy" and it's been pretty fun.
So hyped for when that drops in full as a conversion, as well as Miami.
@CocoaXtv_ Dont be so negative. They are gonna be awsome once they release. Same true for Cascadia.
I follow these guys closely and I assure you they do one heck of a job.
@@tobbvida5601 I learned to lower my expectations after frontier
@@tomisabum Wait, I thought Miami is already cancelled?
I would like to see Ox do a mod muster on Sim Settlements 2. Im playing through the story of that right now. Its more like a real DLC then most mods even those that themselves are like official DLC. Bunch of voiced NPC's to talk to, Stuff to unlock. And naturally the settlement stuff.
I’m waiting for some bug patches. The plots were SO buggy.
Notifications: There's a new Oxhorn Mod Muster today.
Me who never thought I'd see a new one in my life: Impossible.
I find it interisting to how similiar it looks to a warhammer 40k Astartes battle plate, especially one adapted for use by a Space Marine Chaplain with it's skull like helmet faceplate.
The vault tech paint job might as well just make it an ultramarine
@@MrSmiley81092 smurf sons of mine
@@MrSmiley81092ye
What! 2x Oxhorn in one weekend...we all hit the lottery AND it is Fallout 4.
*Fallout
@@ALJ9000 thanks
The Service Service’s primary function is still to protect US currency in our world. No lore issue there.
I miss your Fallout 4 vids!
14:50 footies dont need expensive gear, good enough is good enough thats why the regular grunts didnt get any fancy shiny power armor like the t65, development cost was already high, mass production would just increase it further; especially with the us realising too late that the final price is gonna be payed soon
A lore-friendly interpretation of Bethesda making new models of Power Armor in new games is that the more advanced versions required new tooling in the factories, or that the existing factories for the older models drove the cost-per-unit down. Taking all the factories offline for a major refit for every new version doesn't make mush sense when they are already struggling to meet demand, but it did for the upgrade to using modular components on a standardized frame anyone could use instead of needing to have specialized under-layers and extra training.
The X-models of armor are from an eXperimental branch where they tried radically new things in small batches to keep the costs down, which explains why they are so different, but the T-series are the refined versions that saw production. It even fits with available lore.
That's one of the fun things about logistics. It's so closely tied to statistics that you can explain away anything while still sounding plausible.
I feel like the Minutemen paint job is super bland, like it’s all rust with the Minutemen on it, probably should have made it blue and more American if u know what I mean
I'm right there with you. It seems like a let-down.
I guess it was supposed to be an earthy tan coloring like their uniforms or something.
personally I like it since it goes well well with Militarized Minutemen
It seems to me to meld well with the Minutemen aesthetic - minimally prettied up, practical but not beautiful (much like laser muskets and the Castle).
Works for me. The Minutemen are after all citizen soldier militias. Not the sort of people to have full time armory officers buffing out all the rust and dings and such. Just slap the logo on, make sure it works, and have it available because otherwise they're busy farming or something.
The Secret Service performs a lot of different functions. I don't like that they keep retconning the power armor lore, but it makes sense that the secret service would be there.
Lore wise yeah, but. It’s a game. Said item makes the gameplay better. 🤷🏼♂️
i don't really see adding additional armors as a "Retcon" tbh. at best it's expanding the lore and adding new options for gameplay, and at it's worst it's mildly inconveniencing the Wiki mods. the fallout lore is sparse in certain areas like power armor, and expansion doesn't hurt the setting, regardless of what the salty crybabies whine about.
They don’t really retcon power armor lore aside from it being modular and built around a standardized frame, which makes more sense from an engineering standpoint anyway
I just had a thought, when you were saying it’s not lore friendly to find T-65 under a rowboat in Boston, what’s to say someone didn’t bring it to Boston? The events of Fallout 4 take place much later than that of 76, so it’s entirely possible someone made the journey with built armour.
There are also several high-level military facilities in the Boston area, so it’s possible that a suit of t-65 was issued to one of them
15:12 Its also possible that if the T-65 is designed for use by the Secret Service, it most likely had a completely different set of requirements to the T-45, T-51 and X-02 armors. Probably something like, the military suits are designed to prioritize "fuel" economy, user comfort and long term durability because they would be given to soldiers that could not reasonably expect to just knock off work every couple hours, while the Secret service armor prioritizes shorter term benefits, quicker to enter/exit, better speed enhancement and shear brute strength, because its not meant for prolonged operations and the power armor trained agents aren't meant to wear it all that often.
The Mod Muster is back BABYYYY
I've missed your FO4 Mod Muster vids. Great to finally see a new one.
On a seperate note, I've been rewatching your Mothership Zeta vids, which got me thinking: How about a vid that covers a general history of the pre-war world's history with space travel and alien life. Not just Arcjet and Repconn, but also the lore from FO3 and 76. Not to mention the wall art in the Museum of Freedom, which has a lot of interesting lore implications.
This is cool and all but where’s the T-69
That model was exclusive to Vault 69
Its in a rocket called Rocket 69
Nice
I can only imagine what it would look like
@@Giygas-c5n with a battering ram.... you know where ;)
It is possible that a prototype suit of t-65 was sent to fort strong for testing, similar to the t-51b, but was hidden in the water near Fort Independence when the bombs dropped to keep it out of the hands of the raiders and gunners.
The mirelurks would’ve kept most people away from the area, as well as kept the Minutemen out of the water. It would be doubly risky to try and retrieve it, as they’d be at risk of both mirelurk attack and drowning
Love that we got 2 fallout videos in consecutive days, miss the days we would get them almost everyday.
Well done Ox. I loved how you showed the faction paint schemes at each of their HQ’s with their musical theme. Kudos.
Honestly, i love the look of the T65.
Possible explaination: The T-65 was really expensive to build. Like it used rarer and more expensive materials then any other power armor before or after. Hence why the enclave opted to develop the X-01 and X-02 using more common and less expensive materials. Something they could manufacture more easily on that oil rig without having to worry about the materials that where hard to get that the T-65 required.
Just an theory I tossed together.
yeah well, Frank Horrigan was in "secret Service" and used somesort of power armor.
I get nostalgia watching Ox's Fallout 4 videos. ESPECIALLY these newer ones.
I'm glad he has even gone back to making those Fallout 3 Metro vids!
Dang you youtube comments fellas should let me know when a copy of this mod appears on console
There is, its called excavator power armor
It’s on console for Xbox at least
@@James-xx1ro as a freshly baked PC player:
XBox Controllers blow!
@@kwesont excavator is a different pa from fo76
@@James-xx1ro it is, when I checked I could not find it
Perhaps one of the vault dwellers from Vault 76 had family in the Boston area, and travelled there in the T-65. Fallout 4 takes place over 180 yeara after the events of Fallout 76, anything could be possible.
Yes!! Welcome back to fo4, I've been waiting for some new content :D
The suit exists in Boston because during the period of the 76 game someone bought the plans (as in the game) then relocated to Boston where they hid it in pond as they got older so it wouldn't be stolen.
Hey Ox thx for makin a new fallout 4 vid really missed them u really got my tea in the right spot.
It still is part of the treasury. That’s the main job being the body guard is a side branch.
"the thing about oxhorn is you only know you liked his content. . . when he's gone"
The person that did the paint schemes did a great job, it looks just like aged paint I've seen on older military tanks
Wait, does he know that he's making everyone's day?
Not sure if you’ll see this Ox, but I appreciate your fallout 4 videos a lot. I’ve just managed to get into medical school, but those nights where I needed to relax from studying, I always put on fallout 4 on my PS4 and watch your videos on my laptop at the same time. To even have a new fallout 4 video today is really sweet, again thank you Ox.
By the Gods! An Oxhorn Fallout 4 video?!
*PRAISE THE SUN!*
Now I want Solaire as a companion in FO4
Love the profile pic mate
Never thought I would hear the words Oxhorn's Mod Muster again
What makes me sad is the fact that the characters in fo76 are all dead we would see them in a any other fallout game or unless they make a another prequel
Nice pfp fam
Ngl I want that profile picture.
Gucci pfp fam
I love how the brotherhood paint scheme looks like the battle of the bungle paint scheme used on the p-47 in WW2.
I am sad that there isn't a quest for this mod to find it. I like a good story when hunting for weapons or armor.
I’m pretty sure they based the model numbers on the years when the US actually updated a lot of their gear. 1951; 1960; 1965. Maybe just a coincident 🤷🏻♂️
Ox, you should do a fallout bestiary spanning all of the games. Explaining how all of the crazy wasteland critters came to be. If anyone can do it justice it'd be you my friend!
I'm 100% onboard for that
The very few bestiary vids out there are sub par at best. Oxhorn would do amazing with this idea. Make shorter videos as theres probably not a ton of lore other than how they evolved, what they evolved from, etc. But theres a ton of content there just due to the amount of different creatures in the universe. This could be a good placeholder while waiting for the next fallout game. I'd watch
Glad to see you're doing well Ox! You should do a series on fascinating little unmarked landmarks around the Commonwealth, or fascinating situations: for example, pipes sticking out of the ground, areas on top of Lexington we'd normally never see... and so on!
The legend is back to Fo4!!!
I think a lore answer would be that a Vault 76 resident who acquired it or a descendent/thief made a journey to the commonwealth from Appalachia with the power armor then for some reason scuttled it at the bottom of the pond/lake near the castle to prevent it from falling into some groups hands.
Will you will be covering Fallout: New California?
Not lore friendly at all. Shit mod.
@@SinastarCross "Courier 6 is a half Mutant made from the DNA of the Vault Dweller!" Yeah totally lore friendly and not a slap to the face to what made New Vegas an interesting story/s
I love that you are still covering Fallout 4 content for those of us who are still playing it regularly & also love & enjoy every trace of it.
looks like Oxhorn's back with his mod musters
cool
love these videos
You could make the argument that the T-65 in the mod was an early prototype suit being sent to Boston for initial testing at Fort Strong, as in-lore the T-51 also went through prototype trials there.
Parry this you casuals lol, I am over powered compared to the synths
Heres my lore, it is in the water by the castle because it was abandoned by the minute men when the castle fell to mirlurks. And was found in the basement of the Massachusetts state house
Wait, didn’t the president in fallout 2 have a secret service super mutant?
Enclave secret service not "Secret service"
frank horrigan
I think maybe one of the reasons why t65 may have never been given out to Frontline troops was just how expensive it was. So they made a few suits for special operatives in the secret service and kept the plans on file.
And the one being found under the robo and Boston could be explained that the Treasury department sent out special operatives and power armor after the bombs dropped to secure financial institutions.
To bad Fallout 76 is really just a simulation like "tranquility lane" from Fallout 3. Nothing in it is canonical.
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Huh?
I wonder why Bethesda didn't take a chance to reference Fallout 2 in this power armor. Since Frank is a member of the secret service. Of course, Frankie undoubtedly had custom everything, since none of his normal gear would have fit after FEV.
Cause its a mod? The Hell are you on?
Apologies mate, Im tweaking lol
You meant 76 not 4
@@SinastarCross This mod is a recreation of an actual game equipment in 76. I was referring more to that than specifically to the version in F4.
I feel like the power armor should’ve been located in different places depending on the faction you chose. If you chose the railroad you find it in the switchboard, if you chose the brotherhood it’s in that place in the glowing sea where you get the bombs, if you chose the minutemen you find it in the castle armory or the underground area of the castle, and if you chose the institute they send you to the house in the glowing sea with the bunker inside of it with all the synths and the power armor.
Hey Ox, loved the video. I just want to point out that real world Secret Service was still under the Treasury Dept all the way up until 2003. It was at that point that they were transferred to Homeland Security were they operate a national series of Electronic Crimes Task Forces (ECTFs). Basically they investigate white collar, economic and technological crimes... so Fall Out's Secret Service still being in charge of the gold reserve does make at least cursory sense.
So, this is for Oxhorn. The reason the BoS paint scheme is like that is because the symbol on the front is that of the Appalachian Brotherhood, meaning that suit was created and used by the ABoS, and made it's way over to Boston independently, or the BoS only knows how to paint it as the Appalachian Brotherhood did
I do love that they used the reclaimed bos paint scheme for the mod it one of my favorite versions of the bos paint schemes in the franchise
You also have to consider that Fallout 76 takes place WAY before Fallout 4, so maybe an explanation for T-65 being found around the wasteland is from those that found the plans for the T-65 power armor, produced it, and traveled to the Boston area.
As someone who has long finished the grind for T-65, I am happy to be able to use it in Fallout 4 aswell! Still playing it after all these years
Fallout 4 special edition.
T65. Official lore.
Secret service guarding not just president but all heads of the 13 commonwealths from RED MENACE.
Man Fallout 4’s faction soundtracks are just so freaking good.
( Yes I know the BoS soundtrack is from Tactics )
The USSS is still part of the Treasury and they do still combat counterfeiting.
The protection of the president and VP is their most obvious work, but they also investigate counterfeiting operations.
The Secret Service does in fact still work with the treasury dept and fights counterfeiting.
Actually, I think you almost had it there Ox. As for why there would be a built suit in the Commonwealth, I'd say someone who had the plans, maybe a Vault 76 player, built the suit! From there, armor like that could wind up anywhere, I mean it's just as likely as a suit of X-02 Power Armor making it's way into the Glowing Sea. All that would need to happen is for the armor to change hands over 200-ish years, going from place to place remaining mostly intact due to it's superior spec. Eventually, it's last owner before the Lone Survivor ditching it near The Castle for one reason or another, and perishing before they could retrieve it.
Anyway, that's my take on it. Honestly this is more than Lore Friendly enough for me. Thanks for the showcase!
Oxhorn, finding a t-65 (secret service power armor) in boston would kinda make sense since fallout 76 is years before Fallout 4. and one from apalacha might have traveled to boston for all we know.
really do miss Oxhorn Fallout 4 videos nice to see it back
Now I know the Canon of the T60, and it's lacking but I think my headcanon makes some sense.
The T45 comes out as the first practical use powerarmor. Then in 2076, the T51 is released as the most advanced suit of combat power armor.
At the same time, old worn T45 suits are given to mining companies for experimentation, thus giving the excavator power armor.
In early 2077, with the T51 being standard issue for shock troops, the US starts looking to improve its stocks of T45 that no longer have a main use. So the US refits old T45 suits with heavier armor and beefed hydrolics. This new T60 suit is perfect for sentry duty. This armor is heavy and sluggish like the T45 but provides better protection than the T51. Meaning the US military can save resources that it vitally needs by just refitting old T45 suits. The brotherhood would later discover the documents describing the procedure and blueprints, allowing them to refit all the suits on the east coast chapter to T60 spec.
Around the same time as the T60 development, the Secret service, nervous about potential nuclear war and the need for extreme protection measures, begins researching on the most advanced suits they can get a hold of, the T51A, with T51Bs still being in short supply and state of the art, the T51A is the best they can get. The Secret Service being a much smaller force doesn't have the same resource restrictions of the Army, with only a hundred or so special agents to be armed, they can afford to equip the suit with more advanced and rare protective technologies. Thus the T65 prototype was developed. The T65 in small numbers ends up in Control station enclave and became the test bed for the advanced power armor suit and the X01.
Long read, but in my mind, that's how I see powerarmor development in Fallout
As others have said, the Secret Service still is part of the Department of the Treasury and its primary mission is still to combat counterfeiting. At least IRL, not sure about Fallout.
I'd imagine the T-65 was probably freshly off the testing grounds and was probably earmarked for presidential security initially due to the rioting increasing. Plus waiting for more to be built for proper deployment to the armed forces. Most suits were probably turned to slag when the White House was turned into a crater.
The X-01 was likely still in the prototype/testing stage. Not officially ready.
The T-65 Should be a prototype to the secret service after the sucess of T-45d Custom known as T-60, only in total 15 prototypes weremade and the Enclave dindt get time to retrieve the Schematic, even in adams air force they couldn't find one, soo ispossible the T-65 should be lore friendly but only found in major city and even DC would have 1
This mod is very well detailed. I really like that entire concept, it’s good to see people still transferring content between games.
they still serve the treasury.
you would find Secret Service Power Armor anywhere they had head quarters and where a mint was present
"I don't think a president would be in Vault 111" ahh I see you never played America Rising mod
I theorize that the T-65 is the ancestor to the MK2 suit of the Enclave. I think they found schematics intel on the T-65 and advanced the design even further. MK2 was first used officially in 2241, which is 138 years after Fallout 76. And they could have found more intel on their journey through the wastes into the East as well since Appalachia is part of Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania, which are all in the path to getting to DC. Or if not direct contact, perhaps the Enclave had agents in the secret service, undercover all that time during the war and in it's aftermath.
Ahh.... Oxhorn’s back with a good old Fallout 4 video. What a sight to behold. Missed these.
Oxhorn "Most player wont get the t-65 because of the grind"
Me: nah m8 most ppl wont get it because most ppl don't play fallout 76
Its possible the Secret Service is separate form the Enclave's version. That is, the Enclave Secret Service is its own entity created post-war as the entirety (iirc) of the Secret Service was stationed at V79.
Given the heavy debasement of the dollar in Fallout, counterfeiting was probably a major pre-war concern.
I just got my T-65 and Secret Service Armor. Now I'm probably going to get the Plasma Caster. If the T-65 anywhere it should have been found in Fallout 3 in Washington D.C. at the white house.
One way for it to make sense, would be if a 76 Dweller with the plans eventually had made their way to Boston, or at least if their armor had by whatever means.