Same here Buster😊. I also watched ReDriven's review of the 100 Series LandCruiser. No chance I would buy one, but interested to see what ReDriven thought of it! I'm a passenger car/crossover type guy who would look at a Carnival too.
Timothy Rigby's experience with LDV has put me off them for life. Even after forking out for the "rust protection" his repair quote for the rust was more than the cost of the car. I'd rather get an old petrol Holden Rodeo & spend the difference restoring it than risking my money on an LDV.
@@cm-pk4kq I think you mean "Surf Club", because that's where he worked & the carpark he drove into. And if you actually read the judgment you'd understand how appalling the quality of the metal used in the construction was. Plus the proximity to the ocean was thrown out as a defense because the dealership is only 2 streets away from the water.
He didn't drive it in the surf he worked at the surf club. The funny thing is the dealership that sold him the LDV ute is also on the Gold coast near the surf.
nothing to do with driving in the surf Just lousy rust protection. And ZERO support.I've known another one that suffered very bad rust and NEVER went near salt water. @@cm-pk4kq
Anything from SAIC (LDV, MG etc) is an automatic no. The lack of rust prevention alone makes it a non starter, then there's the attitude of LDV themselves.
My courier bought several LDV vans, it was a disaster. They had lots of troubles including a motor that broke a crankshaft that LDV would not cover under warranty as they claimed they had violated the warranty. They switched to Ford Trannsits.
@@yay842 Ford have always been mid-tier reliability. Better than the euro brands, but worse than the japanese brands. Hiace is still the most bulletproof Van on the market.
Wheel studs made of cheese are a big red flag. Quality of critical components like wheel studs, bearings, clutches and so on are absolutely clear indications of overall quality and suitability for heavy work and long term ownership. I bet their used value reflects this. Great Wall sold their pickup in the UK for a while but sales ground to a halt from a slow start. Some vet practices bought a few locally but soon got rid of them. Now you just can’t give the ones that have survived away for toffee.
LDV are rust-buckets. My brother had one he got about 6 years ago and there was no paint on the edges of the panels. Had 2 rust fixes then he finally convinced the dealer to buy it back. He felt very lucky.
Neighbour had one of these.. I was under the bonnet trying to get it to start (batt dead) and couldn't get over the amount of rust on things like screws/bolts and things for something so new. Was like a 30 y/o car that spent its life on the coast (not exaggerating!)
Jesus christ every single time there's a bit for the voiceover I love it, got my mum to watch the chinese voice over and she's now recommending we get one solely because she understood what all the features were
From a repairers point of view, avoid them like covid. Replacement panel/parts are hard to get for repairs. They are so hard to get that we won't repair them. Also rust is a big issue. Even newer ones have rust where they shouldn't. If you do have one, when you're cleaning it, clean the underside of the vehicle or you'll get rust in the chassis.
I repair them too. Forgot to mention the parts prices. Think twice the price of Mercedes for body parts. If you don't mind weeks or months of inconvenience, go for it
full of sht 1969risky i own one and love it recently had a mechanic check the underneath of the car nothing worn and no rust go buy a new Landcruiser like my daughter did and see the rust while you watch and thats a fact
Down on the Gold Coast a few months ago I saw an LDV with a dealer plate on it presumably out for a test drive and it was stopped on the side of the Smith St motorway because they drive shaft had come off the rear axle.
That can happens if you engage 4wd with transfer case on ashphalt at say speed 80km/h +. It can happen on any brand. Dont believe me? Try do that on the Lc79 and come back to me on the outcome
I looked at buying one these back in 2018 but was put off by the choice of engine and low power output. Instead of the LDV T60 I bought a Foton Tunland. I still have the vehicle and it's currently only done 45,000Ks. The Fotons are butt ugly but suffer far less problems than the LDV's. Mine has done quite a bit of 4wd work as I live quite close to Vic High Country. So far I've seen no rust issues that seem common on some of the other Chinese utes. I don't regret buying it as it's been quite reliable but they're now somewhat orphans as Foton seems to have abandoned our market with diesel 4wd utes. Only time will tell if ultimately something serious breaks and I have difficulty getting parts for it.
Been using this for the past year or so. 2022 model 2.7D. Company car. Primarily used the ute for long commutes (1000km+) weekly. Full load 200kg of stuff. Has no power to cut through traffic (takes a hot minute before able to pass even with no load) infotainment is finicky at best. Android auto doesn’t work since it needs its own app to work. Apple car play works well enough. Surprisingly comfortable. Fuel for long commutes is manageable. City driving just outright sucks. Only issues that popped up was the tire pressure sensors bugging out and slightly noisier engine after 45k km. surprised to see people complaining about rust since the one i used was exposed to very wet climate (malaysia raining season) had no rust so far.
If it was rusty after only 1 year you'd be looking at a pile of red dust within 5-10 years. As they say in the video though, a lot of the rust is hidden between panels. A bit like having a cancer you don't discover until it's too late.....
I would stick with my Triton. Proven warranties and parts availability. Reliable. Reputation and ease of service. Ive done the Gulf, Gibb, Mitchell and Tanami feeling confident that it will keep fetting me home.
Yep 100% i have no interest in buying a dual cab ute any time soon but if i did it would be a triton any day of the week. Value for money cannot be compared!
Been a mechanic for nearly 10 years and have lost count of replacement 2.5’s in the tritons. The 4m41 3.2’s however seem to be a lot more durable, even though they’re not exactly a race car.
Redriven is on the money with most points, the T60 is actually very capable off road, the "fuel flap opening when opening the drivers door" is caused by the drivers door wiring shorting out. It gets caught on the door catch and can short out any wire in that harness, totally random which wire it shorts. the intake hose split is typical like many diesel utes. Only other thing not mentioned was drive belt tentioner bracket prone to snap, Other then that he is bang on.
If you buy it , put your greatest effort to avoid any big crashes as parts hard to get or insurance will just write it off ( as 2 of my mates told me )
2 brothers i worked with brought a pair of these and loved them as they suited their needs, with aftermarket bits they found lots of brand snobbery getting bullbars, roof racks and even getting spotlights installed with one auto elecky telling them "they don't do chinese crap". So far they have had no issues but all makers have their issues its how they are dealt with that makes or breaks them.
Great vid. I owned one of the first LDV t60s in Australia. Was looking for new 4wd ute that wouldn't break the bank. It was a leased vehicle so wasn't concerned about having it for more than 5 years. Firstly... not sure you mentioned this in your video (I may have missed it) but the very first T60's in Australia do not have the all round view camera. Only reverse. So if you want/need the all round view camera, make sure it has one. Additionally, you may be able to use the lack of all round view camera as a bargaining chip to bring down the price. Mine was a 2017, if that helps. Secondly, get someone to check the BCM! Make sure it is mapped correctly. I found the dealers who sold these were generally selling LDV's as a second brand and their mechanics new *&^% all. I returned mine five, yes FIVE times to fix a relatively minor BCM issue (power windows wouldn't work) and they totally screwed up the BCM because my LDV was the earliest model (i.e. no all round camera, no bonnet latch alarm and probably other things). They just could not get it right. Even at the end the wing mirrors wouldn't fold in but i could live with that. Thirdly make sure you have a mechanic who knows LDV's back to front. As stated in this video, they are a bit of a Frankenstein when it comes to parts. Lastly, just before i traded it in, some component I think it was a 4wd selection motor, you will probably know what it's really called, totally failed. It resulted in the 4WD warning light coming on... sometimes. Ended up costing about $800 to get fixed. Just would not go into 4WD at all. I wasn't a big 4wder so doubt it was wear and tear... probably just forget what it was due to lack of use. Maybe make sure that is ok before you buy. I did like the car but the lack of experience from mechanics and accessories just made it a poor experience overall. That is nothing to do with being a Chinese built car, moreso the lack of effort to support the brand by Ateco. Consequently, I now drive a BT50.
No one in Australia or anywhere can convince me to buy an ute other than Toyota Hilux, new or old. What a feeling. Love your videos, always golden truth. No frills, yet decent comments
Just steer clear of the '15-18 models. A mate of mine has one. He had endless grief with the DPF, but in all fairness, it got sorted in the end and Toyota wrote him a cheque.
@@tomnewham1269 It was a pretty healthy cheque that he got, too. I just can't remember exactly how healthy it was. Anyway, he's a happy customer, he's still got the vehicle, and it doesn't look like he's filming a Cheech and Chong movie in it, anymore.
The smash repairers that my wife worked for had a contract with the local GW dealer. They would come straight off the ship, and straight to the repair shop to have the rust cut out of them amongst various other defects that would happen on the trip over.
I've had an LDV G10 auto diesel people mover for three years. I drive it hard daily 350km minimum and still doing 10l/100km. Loads of space, specs, everyone amazed by the ride comfort, dual zone aircon that work perfect in all weather. Have kept it logbook serviced - which is a downer as it must be done every 10,000km. But otherwise, no issues yet - touch wood, and can't speak for anyone else.
I have one. It’s a great ute. Got dings dents scratches from being used as a 4wd and dog vehicle. It’s a great ute for the price. My complaints come to the tech. The Bluetooth issues are a pain trying to get CarPlay to reliably work. The seatbelt sensor beeping. The blind spot monitor gets dirt on the sensor so they think there’s something there. The backup sensors are a pain. Remove the tech it’s a good ute. Reminds me of my old 90s ute.
@@hambo76 majority of the tech for EV? Well, outside of motor and battery, the tech originates from the old players. US, EU and then Japan and less so Korea. For motors, biggest producer right now is China. For batteries the same.
Great video! From what I’ve heard, the lack of accessories is due to a lack of support in Australia. There’s apparently just nothing for them from the players like ARB, TJM, etc.
Rust seems to occur in door welds, chassis rails, around /under windscreen seals , etc, etc . Electrical issues & sometimes failures are due to sensors, wiring, power spikes etc , then there appears to be some relay issues , then the infotainment system has a habit of failures , odd ECU glitches, transmission issues ,occasional power steering glitches, the list goes on. Not every vehicle appears to get a problem but there are a lot that do. I've got a colleague who's still got his at a dealers now & its been there 4 months. Its got a major electrical issue which is shutting the vehicle down, but when a GDU is plugged into the vehicle its not showing anything. Fault codes are reset which seems to temporarily alleviate the issue & days later its stuffed again . Anyone still wanna buy 1 ??
Its crazy that brand new these are only a few thousand less than a much more tried and tested Triton and people still choose these. Could understand how compared to a Hilux it looks cheap but when a Japanese brand is offering much the same for not much more coin it should be a no-brainer to spend the extra few k
@@sugarnads they're just not 10k cheaper tho. A decently equipped Triton lets say a GLX+ is 50k. Mid spec T60 is 44k driveaway. When you get to the top spec of both models the difference is even smaller 54k for the T60 driveaway, 55.5k for the GLS Triton driveaway. Again comparing it to a Hilux it's cheap, but certainly not against a Triton
The rust issues in LDVs is a bad problem and l know somebody who bought one of these and it spent 6 months at the dealer of his first 12 months of ownership l do not think much of anything built in China
I owned one for a year 2020 t60 pro , traded it in for same year hilux , no mechanical issues but was having rust spots coming up .there a good looking ute thoe And I really like the look of the lux models with the chrome grill and sports bar
Rust on the LDV concerns me the most, everything else I could work with...Speaking of Chinese I would love to see a review on the Haval SUVs, I want a car I can throw the family in for road trips and take off-road with no concern for consequences (Scratches, Dints etc..) - Personally, I would love a Prado but at the massive lack of depreciation I would constantly be questioning where I would be taking it with fear of damage.
Work at a dealership here and can confirm the ldv rust thing is a real issue we have had several ldv buy backs due to rust and ldv just ends up sending to get crushed
I did a test ride on the 1st gen, built finish was good and in some area’s better than the other brands, what did fail it was the Service and spare parts availability, even the sales guy said that it’s Not unusual to wait for 4 to 6 months for spare parts. The let down was the performance, No Performance 😂so the dealer had a throttle controller on it and said, yea I recommend you put one on as they are slooooo.😅
The Great Wall cars have rust also. A friend has one he bought brand new in 2013 and its hilarious. Literally cutting out panels, welding, bog and spray painting himself. 😂
Thanks Adam - Chinese utes come with in-built factory rust throughout the vehicle so in less than three or four years it’s going to be a drama for these utes and MG SUVs etc. I’m happy with my Hilux but totally understand budget constrained buyers but that rust will kill the initial cheaper purchase - Chinese tech is not tech but random eccentricity.
The hilux North American cousin Tacoma is notorious about frame rust. And there was a class action law suit against Toyota to force the replace the frame. I think the affect years ranging from 2000 all the way to 201x. I remeber the dealer was done replacing a frame( practically rebuild the whole truck) when I pick up my 2016 highlander hybrid back In 2016. After a premature caliper failure and need to fight to put the replacement work under warenty when the highlander was just 30k km on the clock. I no longer consider new model Toyota has much to do with reliable. Despite I went back to them for a mini van to replace thr highlander. But I already put aside some fund just in case something on the van go. I wish you best luck on living in the bubble and swallow the greif your hilux throw at you.
I have a 2019 LDV t60 pro, these models also have a rear diff lock. Even tho they are dirt cheap and have the traits of a 30 year old rust bucket, they make great budget off roaders and quite reliable if you put the money into it. I like to say, it all depends on what side of the ship you get it from, they are either good or they are bad, no in between 😅
LDV were the British Leyland DAF Van company. I wonder if there is anything from the days of Marinas, Maestros and SD1s, no matter how trivial still being made for these?
The Royal Mail used the old British Leyland Sherpa van for years. They had an excellent turning circle, were rough as guts, but were pretty reliable and could withstand a lot of neglect..
If driven near the beach they rust very badly where door hinges meet the body and inside the rear tray panels and lower front guards. My neigbour had one, it drove ok but the rust stains were an eye sore. He sold it with a 6k loss, the car was a 2021 unit with only 8K on the clock. My good old Grand Cherokee 2000, no rust at all over the 8 years I've had it and it launches my boat too.
How many time you have rebuild the bloddy thing. 2000 model year grand cherokee has become rare living specimen in Canada. The ones I see all have hatch, hood or fender from other viechle with rear wheel well rust to hell. Being near the coastline is just as corrosivse as in Canada. Claim it rust free for a 23 years old viechle is more likely a big fat lie or it is a grade Queen. Heck, my 2008 wrangler has been rust proof every year with fluid film or krown. But it still rust like hell. Good thing there is enough meat on the frame, so I know Im good for the next decade
Ha Ha, I'm not lying, I wish I could post photos of the car. Here in Melbourne Australia, we do not have salt on our roads and I do live near our coast. The Jeep has no rust at all. Mechanically I've done many things to fix it like new engine, power steering box, HVAC blend doors and heater core and other maintenance stuff. It is a really nice 4x4.
Have you seen a ranger lately? They identify as an f250. The old ford dealer up the road that was designed for falcons and utes is now DROWNING in massive ranger twin cab utes. They dwarf everything around them and it looks hilarious
Of couse you love it! Knowledge about the existence of the rest of the world must be so very educational. We also drive on a pretty fucked up side of the road! How wierd!!!
Had one now for over 2 years, nothing special and engine is noisy. Got a idrive on mine and that makes it a different beast. It does the job and i actually like it for longer trips.
Meh, who uses who knows. Truck owners are a special bunch. Truck in a sense is the extension of some if not must truck owners ego. Here in North America, I hear story family memeber in the GM camp and ford camp are insisting their truck is better and more reliable than thr other. And quitely fix their truck when they do experiencing problem. I guess it is no different in the other side of the globe.
My neighbour bought the first model and had it towed do the dealer 11 times in the first 12mths. The dealer gradually replaced parts until the last tow when they replaced the computer after which fixed the problem. The dealer them told him he had wiped his hands of him and never to return even for servicing.
A couple of years ago I grabbed a GWM dual-cab ute with ~75,000 kms on the clock for only $7000. It has been brilliant. Most of the essential electronics works, but there is nothing fancy. I fitted an after market dash cam and reverse cam to it for peanuts. No rust. But the paint job was not good, so I sanded it down and re-did it myself. It is what it is, it is not a "penis car" but a work vehicle. The power is OK, even towing a trailer, and the 5-spd manual trans is great. It even handles and brakes OK. The previous driver must have stood on the brakes all day, so I replaced the front pads and rotors and the rear shoes, and replaced and bled the clutch and brake fluids. There is a special tool necessary to remove the front rotors from the hubs, and you can't buy one unless you are an authorized dealer, so independent mechanics-watch out. However, I reasoned that many components were knock offs or licensed from other vehicle makers, so I grabbed a Bluepac NPRS-12, and with a little filing down in a couple of spots it worked a treat. The power plant for example, is a copy of the Mitsubishi 2 liter petrol. The hubs are a Triton or Ranger copy, I forget which. Everything is fairly rugged and basic, which I like. The tub has a thick tough plastic cover which is only mildly scratched and I have put everything in there, tools, rubbish building materials, sand mulch, old scrap metal with sharp edges. The wheel arches have shitty plastic though, which degrades and falls off. No bid deal, at least for me. The battery was a cheap after-market affair, so I replaced that. Manual windscreen wipers, so I get to control them when it rains. Some chrome bits had some mild surface rust. The wheel nuts and studs are not cheese, and tolerate the half-inch impact drill very well. As with most cars, the jack was average, but I always get I high spec jack and chuck it in the back anyway, when I get a vehicle. Anyway, the GWM dual cab ute is a much better second-hand buy that this LDV model, but if you are going for a 4WD version, I have heard that GWM had some transfer-case issues in some of their earlier models. My old rig does not overheat even under heavy load on a really hot day, so no worries there either. It is just one vehicle though. I can't speak for all the models of GWM out there. I could not even buy a HiLux or ranger or whatever, even with a odometer reading of 400,000 for anywhere near the price and condition of the GWM, so I am ahead there too.
It's a Chinese sh*tbox. Cousin bought one used with a little over 20,000km on it & the gearbox died before hitting 30,000km. Warranty fixed it, but he resold it & lost $4k on the hunk of junk & was lucky he didn't sell his BT-50 yet.
@11:15 you say a negative of the longer wheel base is the turning circle or the amount of space you need to do a u’ie is “reduced”. Shouldn’t that be “increased.
Like my mechanic said 'if a company can afford to sell a new car for as cheap as they do the what's wrong with them?' which I completely agree with plus I'd rather a ute that has a decent support network over something like the T60. To be completely honest if I had to get a cheap runabout ute I'd consider a Ssangyong Musso over the T60 even if it has the same sort of support network as the T60. I dread too read that report about the rust to do with the T60 but I might read it later to see just how bad it is lol. Honestly suprised by the T60 being today's review car and definitely an eye opener. Bloody good video guys and look forward to next week's videos as per usual so keep up the good work 👍.
I love the mega tub model as no one else offers this extended wheel base that does have the rear axle at the front of the tub causing loading and towing to unload the front axle weight which has always made me shy away from dual cabs
@@tonydoggett7627 iPhone is only assembled in China, and the latest one only uses about 10% China-made parts. Very different from buying a mostly Chinese SAIC/GWM shitbox car, don't be too troubled by your iPhone!
Great videos so informative. I have a 2000 Lexus lx470 with 420k on the clock still drive great. Maybe a review on a super high k older vehicle would be good???
Watching from New Zealand, we brought a 2022 t60, 6 speed manual, it's currently in the dealership getting a replacement gearbox under warranty at 31,000 km, there's been a few other electrical gremlins 😂 There's no way I'd own one of these out of warranty so will be selling before that runs out.
im actually really glad it doesn't have those "safety" fetures like auto braking or lane keep assist becuase its another thing to fail and they get really annoying. I really hate it when you cant turn that stuff off in a car
You forgot to mention that OEM spares and panels are non existent! In some cases insurers are cash settling customers or you will wait up to a year or more for parts if you prang it.
It looks ok, very generic but all the time I know deep down that the quality is completely lacking underneath. All Chinese cars are nice on the surface but never have any substance beneath them. Your review is great, it’s the product lol. We are used to LDV as rusty old vans in the 80s and 90s when I was a kid here in the UK
Just tried to get my almost brother in laws to pair with my phone and set the sound up for him. He sold me his 2009 Hiace last year and took his Bluetooth to FM adapter out and has it in the LDV. I just spent an hour trying to get his phone to pair telling him he doesn’t need it anymore and just gave up. His is a 2023.
These are good utes provided you buy them for the right reasons: If you are looking for a Ute that will last you 20 years, something you can pass down to your grandkids, look elsewhere. There are perfect for: 1) a new individual who is starting out a new business. Cheap Ute to get around and carry his tools. After 5 years when the business is established, throw this one and invest in the better Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger etc. 2) you need a Ute for your employees to travel around in. You aren’t sure who will be driving them. You invest in this, you make your money in 3-5 years. If this lasts you any more than 5 years very good. Otherwise, no loss to you. If you are going to buy used then assuming these have a life span of 5 years, take away that many years off that used ute
No still miss my VZ Ute it did everything that was expected of it and was never going to be just a show piece. Have absolutely no interest in buying a dual cab Ute let alone a Chinese or even an Indian one.
No, just no. Everyone I know who works with SAIC products says they're a disaster, it's embarrassing to be seen in the same suburb as an LDV and they have a terrible attitude to customer service. Buy something better but with a few years and ks on it.
In the UK we don't get a lot of Chinese products you get. And then there are our price hikes. So you are lucky to have more choice with the age old argument of cheap new or older used.
You might say buy one of these because they're cheaper, however the depreciation on them or risk of issues literally makes them more expensive than just buying a reliable japanese brand.
I think if you’re somewhat understanding of finance you’re not going to get screwed over anymore through a bank or dealer. Most of them have pretty competitive options now. Anything better than leasing as a private consumer
Virtually every 90s Honda interior with over 350k-400k virtually looks like this LDV new and that is no exageration. If there is a 20 year old LDV interior that still looks new only then will I confirm the interior is durable. Many 90s Honda with 350k-400k is still on the same factory sealed power unit and 90% still with matching factory sealed transmissions , both manual and surprisingly the automatics. If there is a LDV that can even reach 20-25 years with the same PU and trans only then will it gain some confidence and respect. ha
hi i have the 2020 t60 pro and its a great 4x4 no major problem with it have had 2 glow plugs replaced under warranty i do wish it had a rear diff lock in the pro and yes i would buy another one
Only watched it because of redriven. There's no chance I'll ever buy one of these 😊
They are such POS hey. Always curious to see who is driving them
Same here Buster😊. I also watched ReDriven's review of the 100 Series LandCruiser. No chance I would buy one, but interested to see what ReDriven thought of it!
I'm a passenger car/crossover type guy who would look at a Carnival too.
I'm not even in the market for a vehicle, but I always find myself watching the videos. Always entertaining.
Same here. Love his presentation style and always find it entertaining.
Timothy Rigby's experience with LDV has put me off them for life. Even after forking out for the "rust protection" his repair quote for the rust was more than the cost of the car.
I'd rather get an old petrol Holden Rodeo & spend the difference restoring it than risking my money on an LDV.
If my last name were Rigby, I'd be giving all of my kids three-syllable first names for as long as anyone has heard of the Beatles.
Timothy Rigby's was a hatchet job by John Cadogan, Rust on these is not an issue as you don't drive it into the surf as Tim did.
@@cm-pk4kq I think you mean "Surf Club", because that's where he worked & the carpark he drove into. And if you actually read the judgment you'd understand how appalling the quality of the metal used in the construction was. Plus the proximity to the ocean was thrown out as a defense because the dealership is only 2 streets away from the water.
He didn't drive it in the surf he worked at the surf club. The funny thing is the dealership that sold him the LDV ute is also on the Gold coast near the surf.
nothing to do with driving in the surf Just lousy rust protection. And ZERO support.I've known another one that suffered very bad rust and NEVER went near salt water.
@@cm-pk4kq
Anything from SAIC (LDV, MG etc) is an automatic no. The lack of rust prevention alone makes it a non starter, then there's the attitude of LDV themselves.
My courier bought several LDV vans, it was a disaster. They had lots of troubles including a motor that broke a crankshaft that LDV would not cover under warranty as they claimed they had violated the warranty. They switched to Ford Trannsits.
Maybe they did violate the warranty
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Wow, you know you're bad when you get people to go towards a Ford
Ford transits are also complete shit lol
@@yay842 Ford have always been mid-tier reliability. Better than the euro brands, but worse than the japanese brands. Hiace is still the most bulletproof Van on the market.
Wheel studs made of cheese are a big red flag. Quality of critical components like wheel studs, bearings, clutches and so on are absolutely clear indications of overall quality and suitability for heavy work and long term ownership. I bet their used value reflects this. Great Wall sold their pickup in the UK for a while but sales ground to a halt from a slow start. Some vet practices bought a few locally but soon got rid of them. Now you just can’t give the ones that have survived away for toffee.
I snapped one on my mitsy a couple of months ago, surprised how easily I did it.
What torque did it snap at? @@dankiwi01
LDV are rust-buckets. My brother had one he got about 6 years ago and there was no paint on the edges of the panels. Had 2 rust fixes then he finally convinced the dealer to buy it back. He felt very lucky.
Neighbour had one of these.. I was under the bonnet trying to get it to start (batt dead) and couldn't get over the amount of rust on things like screws/bolts and things for something so new. Was like a 30 y/o car that spent its life on the coast (not exaggerating!)
Jesus christ every single time there's a bit for the voiceover I love it, got my mum to watch the chinese voice over and she's now recommending we get one solely because she understood what all the features were
From a repairers point of view, avoid them like covid. Replacement panel/parts are hard to get for repairs. They are so hard to get that we won't repair them. Also rust is a big issue. Even newer ones have rust where they shouldn't. If you do have one, when you're cleaning it, clean the underside of the vehicle or you'll get rust in the chassis.
We got body parts for them in melb
I repair them too. Forgot to mention the parts prices. Think twice the price of Mercedes for body parts. If you don't mind weeks or months of inconvenience, go for it
@@markcrebert4143 Yeah I forgot to mention that as well. That's the reason why we wont repair them any more.
My neighbour has one and had an accident, It took 3 months for his car to be repaired.....waiting on parts.
full of sht 1969risky i own one and love it recently had a mechanic check the underneath of the car nothing worn and no rust go buy a new Landcruiser like my daughter did and see the rust while you watch and thats a fact
Down on the Gold Coast a few months ago I saw an LDV with a dealer plate on it presumably out for a test drive and it was stopped on the side of the Smith St motorway because they drive shaft had come off the rear axle.
That can happens if you engage 4wd with transfer case on ashphalt at say speed 80km/h +. It can happen on any brand. Dont believe me? Try do that on the Lc79 and come back to me on the outcome
I looked at buying one these back in 2018 but was put off by the choice of engine and low power output. Instead of the LDV T60 I bought a Foton Tunland. I still have the vehicle and it's currently only done 45,000Ks. The Fotons are butt ugly but suffer far less problems than the LDV's. Mine has done quite a bit of 4wd work as I live quite close to Vic High Country. So far I've seen no rust issues that seem common on some of the other Chinese utes. I don't regret buying it as it's been quite reliable but they're now somewhat orphans as Foton seems to have abandoned our market with diesel 4wd utes. Only time will tell if ultimately something serious breaks and I have difficulty getting parts for it.
Been using this for the past year or so. 2022 model 2.7D. Company car. Primarily used the ute for long commutes (1000km+) weekly. Full load 200kg of stuff.
Has no power to cut through traffic (takes a hot minute before able to pass even with no load) infotainment is finicky at best. Android auto doesn’t work since it needs its own app to work. Apple car play works well enough. Surprisingly comfortable. Fuel for long commutes is manageable. City driving just outright sucks. Only issues that popped up was the tire pressure sensors bugging out and slightly noisier engine after 45k km.
surprised to see people complaining about rust since the one i used was exposed to very wet climate (malaysia raining season) had no rust so far.
If it was rusty after only 1 year you'd be looking at a pile of red dust within 5-10 years. As they say in the video though, a lot of the rust is hidden between panels. A bit like having a cancer you don't discover until it's too late.....
I would stick with my Triton. Proven warranties and parts availability. Reliable. Reputation and ease of service. Ive done the Gulf, Gibb, Mitchell and Tanami feeling confident that it will keep fetting me home.
Yep 100% i have no interest in buying a dual cab ute any time soon but if i did it would be a triton any day of the week. Value for money cannot be compared!
Been a mechanic for nearly 10 years and have lost count of replacement 2.5’s in the tritons. The 4m41 3.2’s however seem to be a lot more durable, even though they’re not exactly a race car.
@@MrPoogman 4m41 all the way. Doesn't need to be a racecar its a diesel four wheel drive
I have a 2019 320d I would love to get it reviewed as I personally faced few issues mileage 50k
drove a Mitsy for ten years did 250.000 kays. gave it hell. . new clutch after 8 years. SHE gave me a good service
Redriven is on the money with most points, the T60 is actually very capable off road, the "fuel flap opening when opening the drivers door" is caused by the drivers door wiring shorting out. It gets caught on the door catch and can short out any wire in that harness, totally random which wire it shorts. the intake hose split is typical like many diesel utes. Only other thing not mentioned was drive belt tentioner bracket prone to snap, Other then that he is bang on.
If you buy it , put your greatest effort to avoid any big crashes as parts hard to get or insurance will just write it off ( as 2 of my mates told me )
2 brothers i worked with brought a pair of these and loved them as they suited their needs, with aftermarket bits they found lots of brand snobbery getting bullbars, roof racks and even getting spotlights installed with one auto elecky telling them "they don't do chinese crap". So far they have had no issues but all makers have their issues its how they are dealt with that makes or breaks them.
Great vid. I owned one of the first LDV t60s in Australia. Was looking for new 4wd ute that wouldn't break the bank. It was a leased vehicle so wasn't concerned about having it for more than 5 years. Firstly... not sure you mentioned this in your video (I may have missed it) but the very first T60's in Australia do not have the all round view camera. Only reverse. So if you want/need the all round view camera, make sure it has one. Additionally, you may be able to use the lack of all round view camera as a bargaining chip to bring down the price. Mine was a 2017, if that helps. Secondly, get someone to check the BCM! Make sure it is mapped correctly. I found the dealers who sold these were generally selling LDV's as a second brand and their mechanics new *&^% all. I returned mine five, yes FIVE times to fix a relatively minor BCM issue (power windows wouldn't work) and they totally screwed up the BCM because my LDV was the earliest model (i.e. no all round camera, no bonnet latch alarm and probably other things). They just could not get it right. Even at the end the wing mirrors wouldn't fold in but i could live with that. Thirdly make sure you have a mechanic who knows LDV's back to front. As stated in this video, they are a bit of a Frankenstein when it comes to parts. Lastly, just before i traded it in, some component I think it was a 4wd selection motor, you will probably know what it's really called, totally failed. It resulted in the 4WD warning light coming on... sometimes. Ended up costing about $800 to get fixed. Just would not go into 4WD at all. I wasn't a big 4wder so doubt it was wear and tear... probably just forget what it was due to lack of use. Maybe make sure that is ok before you buy. I did like the car but the lack of experience from mechanics and accessories just made it a poor experience overall. That is nothing to do with being a Chinese built car, moreso the lack of effort to support the brand by Ateco. Consequently, I now drive a BT50.
So, in short: if you want one, take it to a mechanic for a pre sale inspection. And an exorcist.
Haha
No one in Australia or anywhere can convince me to buy an ute other than Toyota Hilux, new or old. What a feeling. Love your videos, always golden truth. No frills, yet decent comments
Pretty unbeatable...I can't understand the people who buy this crap - let these companies cark it...
I own a povo pack workmate single cab works for me.
Just steer clear of the '15-18 models. A mate of mine has one. He had endless grief with the DPF, but in all fairness, it got sorted in the end and Toyota wrote him a cheque.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Toyota had to write him a cheque as the ACCC took Toyota to court and the court fined Toyota a motza.
@@tomnewham1269 It was a pretty healthy cheque that he got, too. I just can't remember exactly how healthy it was. Anyway, he's a happy customer, he's still got the vehicle, and it doesn't look like he's filming a Cheech and Chong movie in it, anymore.
Emma and Jordan use it to go on a gravel trail on Sunday morning to get to their picnic destination..
that thing hasn’t done a days work..
I love the first minute of talk. Perfectly explained 80% of dual cab ute owners in Australia. Its terrible.
The smash repairers that my wife worked for had a contract with the local GW dealer. They would come straight off the ship, and straight to the repair shop to have the rust cut out of them amongst various other defects that would happen on the trip over.
Wrong manufacturer
🐂💩
Finally someone said it…
ALL the dual cabs are a bit shit…
I've had an LDV G10 auto diesel people mover for three years. I drive it hard daily 350km minimum and still doing 10l/100km. Loads of space, specs, everyone amazed by the ride comfort, dual zone aircon that work perfect in all weather. Have kept it logbook serviced - which is a downer as it must be done every 10,000km. But otherwise, no issues yet - touch wood, and can't speak for anyone else.
Been here with you since the channel had 3-4digit subs.. Hello from the Philippines!
Best car review channel going at the moment 👌
I have one. It’s a great ute. Got dings dents scratches from being used as a 4wd and dog vehicle. It’s a great ute for the price. My complaints come to the tech. The Bluetooth issues are a pain trying to get CarPlay to reliably work. The seatbelt sensor beeping. The blind spot monitor gets dirt on the sensor so they think there’s something there. The backup sensors are a pain. Remove the tech it’s a good ute. Reminds me of my old 90s ute.
Nothing stirs up the punters like a Chinese ute review😅.
Makes me wonder what the Chinese electric cars will be like reliability wise a few years down the track.
Why wonder? What Chinese designed and made stuff actually delivers, perhaps even overdelivers?
Overdelivers in explosions maybe?
A QLD high court judge has already answered that question
Where do you think the majority of electric car tech comes from?
@@hambo76 majority of the tech for EV? Well, outside of motor and battery, the tech originates from the old players. US, EU and then Japan and less so Korea. For motors, biggest producer right now is China. For batteries the same.
Great video! From what I’ve heard, the lack of accessories is due to a lack of support in Australia. There’s apparently just nothing for them from the players like ARB, TJM, etc.
Although I haven’t personally looked into it. There could be more out there than I think there is.
@@kinetic_1553 savage tech makes heaps of mods for them but its not really worth it due to the bad resale value
Also a QLD high court judge concluded there unfit for purpose
Rust seems to occur in door welds, chassis rails, around /under windscreen seals , etc, etc . Electrical issues & sometimes failures are due to sensors, wiring, power spikes etc , then there appears to be some relay issues , then the infotainment system has a habit of failures , odd ECU glitches, transmission issues ,occasional power steering glitches, the list goes on. Not every vehicle appears to get a problem but there are a lot that do. I've got a colleague who's still got his at a dealers now & its been there 4 months. Its got a major electrical issue which is shutting the vehicle down, but when a GDU is plugged into the vehicle its not showing anything. Fault codes are reset which seems to temporarily alleviate the issue & days later its stuffed again . Anyone still wanna buy 1 ??
Do a review on the Torana in the workshop😊
Its crazy that brand new these are only a few thousand less than a much more tried and tested Triton and people still choose these. Could understand how compared to a Hilux it looks cheap but when a Japanese brand is offering much the same for not much more coin it should be a no-brainer to spend the extra few k
Theyre atleast 10k cheaper not 'a few' thousand.
Thats a significant difference even financing
It's when the missus gets involved.
@@sugarnads they're just not 10k cheaper tho. A decently equipped Triton lets say a GLX+ is 50k. Mid spec T60 is 44k driveaway. When you get to the top spec of both models the difference is even smaller 54k for the T60 driveaway, 55.5k for the GLS Triton driveaway. Again comparing it to a Hilux it's cheap, but certainly not against a Triton
The rust issues in LDVs is a bad problem and l know somebody who bought one of these and it spent 6 months at the dealer of his first 12 months of ownership l do not think much of anything built in China
I owned one for a year 2020 t60 pro , traded it in for same year hilux , no mechanical issues but was having rust spots coming up .there a good looking ute thoe And I really like the look of the lux models with the chrome grill and sports bar
Rust on the LDV concerns me the most, everything else I could work with...Speaking of Chinese I would love to see a review on the Haval SUVs, I want a car I can throw the family in for road trips and take off-road with no concern for consequences (Scratches, Dints etc..) - Personally, I would love a Prado but at the massive lack of depreciation I would constantly be questioning where I would be taking it with fear of damage.
Work at a dealership here and can confirm the ldv rust thing is a real issue we have had several ldv buy backs due to rust and ldv just ends up sending to get crushed
What do you think of the Mifa petrol, any good ? Problems ? Mechanical and electrical?Rust ? Please let me know, thanks
I did a test ride on the 1st gen, built finish was good and in some area’s better than the other brands, what did fail it was the Service and spare parts availability, even the sales guy said that it’s Not unusual to wait for 4 to 6 months for spare parts. The let down was the performance, No Performance 😂so the dealer had a throttle controller on it and said, yea I recommend you put one on as they are slooooo.😅
The Great Wall cars have rust also. A friend has one he bought brand new in 2013 and its hilarious. Literally cutting out panels, welding, bog and spray painting himself. 😂
That was Ateco period GWM - they were a POS. The new ones are much much better.
Someone needs to do a cheap ute showdown comparison between the SsangYong, GWM and LDV please!
I was thinking about upgrading my '88 Brumby but you've changed my mind 😄, I'll stick with my 35 year old rust bucket with no electronics
Have a look at the QLD high court ruling on them
Hey mate. Hope you're well?
Just sitting in my old ute SMOKING a DURRY watching another of your videos. 😊
Great content!
All issues aside, I like the look of the LWB. If I was to own one, which I never will, I'd de-badge it.
the ldv utes that have a 2.4l 4 cylinder that is the same engine as the 2002 Mitsubishi express
Better to pay more and get Japanese or 2nd hand Japanese
There is no Japanese ute now
@@caseyhopkins6299then what do you call Hilux, D-Max and Navarra?
“Japanese” utes are made in Thailand now.
Thanks Adam - Chinese utes come with in-built factory rust throughout the vehicle so in less than three or four years it’s going to be a drama for these utes and MG SUVs etc. I’m happy with my Hilux but totally understand budget constrained buyers but that rust will kill the initial cheaper purchase - Chinese tech is not tech but random eccentricity.
The hilux North American cousin Tacoma is notorious about frame rust. And there was a class action law suit against Toyota to force the replace the frame. I think the affect years ranging from 2000 all the way to 201x. I remeber the dealer was done replacing a frame( practically rebuild the whole truck) when I pick up my 2016 highlander hybrid back In 2016. After a premature caliper failure and need to fight to put the replacement work under warenty when the highlander was just 30k km on the clock. I no longer consider new model Toyota has much to do with reliable. Despite I went back to them for a mini van to replace thr highlander. But I already put aside some fund just in case something on the van go. I wish you best luck on living in the bubble and swallow the greif your hilux throw at you.
I have a 2019 LDV t60 pro, these models also have a rear diff lock. Even tho they are dirt cheap and have the traits of a 30 year old rust bucket, they make great budget off roaders and quite reliable if you put the money into it. I like to say, it all depends on what side of the ship you get it from, they are either good or they are bad, no in between 😅
Sell asap
LDV were the British Leyland DAF Van company. I wonder if there is anything from the days of Marinas, Maestros and SD1s, no matter how trivial still being made for these?
The Royal Mail used the old British Leyland Sherpa van for years. They had an excellent turning circle, were rough as guts, but were pretty reliable and could withstand a lot of neglect..
Mr Rigby is not the only one to have terminal rust problems. But it is not just LDV. All Chinese brands here have cut corners in assembly quality!
Another brilliant review by ReDriven, keep up the great work guys. ❤
Thanks a ton! - AK
If driven near the beach they rust very badly where door hinges meet the body and inside the rear tray panels and lower front guards. My neigbour had one, it drove ok but the rust stains were an eye sore. He sold it with a 6k loss, the car was a 2021 unit with only 8K on the clock. My good old Grand Cherokee 2000, no rust at all over the 8 years I've had it and it launches my boat too.
How many time you have rebuild the bloddy thing. 2000 model year grand cherokee has become rare living specimen in Canada. The ones I see all have hatch, hood or fender from other viechle with rear wheel well rust to hell. Being near the coastline is just as corrosivse as in Canada. Claim it rust free for a 23 years old viechle is more likely a big fat lie or it is a grade Queen. Heck, my 2008 wrangler has been rust proof every year with fluid film or krown. But it still rust like hell. Good thing there is enough meat on the frame, so I know Im good for the next decade
Ha Ha, I'm not lying, I wish I could post photos of the car. Here in Melbourne Australia, we do not have salt on our roads and I do live near our coast. The Jeep has no rust at all. Mechanically I've done many things to fix it like new engine, power steering box, HVAC blend doors and heater core and other maintenance stuff. It is a really nice 4x4.
How a about a review of the Torana in Jim’s workshop😂
The 'what goes wrong section' would last 5 seconds
As a American I love hearing someone call a Ford ranger sized vehicle as "very large"
And we love it that you have entire states that are smaller than some of our cattle ranches 🙂
Well if it isn't an American surprised at the lack of morbid obesity in anything and everything outside US soil....
Have you seen a ranger lately? They identify as an f250. The old ford dealer up the road that was designed for falcons and utes is now DROWNING in massive ranger twin cab utes. They dwarf everything around them and it looks hilarious
Of couse you love it! Knowledge about the existence of the rest of the world must be so very educational. We also drive on a pretty fucked up side of the road! How wierd!!!
Had one now for over 2 years, nothing special and engine is noisy. Got a idrive on mine and that makes it a different beast. It does the job and i actually like it for longer trips.
Meh, who uses who knows. Truck owners are a special bunch. Truck in a sense is the extension of some if not must truck owners ego. Here in North America, I hear story family memeber in the GM camp and ford camp are insisting their truck is better and more reliable than thr other. And quitely fix their truck when they do experiencing problem. I guess it is no different in the other side of the globe.
An 'Out of the blue' screen saver on your phone. Such good tastes.
Thanks for Keeping it Real ... 👍
Funny that the one thing the country of origin is we’ll known for, is one of the most complained about. The tech. 😂
Wow we getting more videos now, Keep up the good work!!!
i own 3 Chinese used cars :) Grear Wall V240, Geely MK and Chery J3. all good cars. also the engine is by VM Motori, not MV Motori
My neighbour bought the first model and had it towed do the dealer 11 times in the first 12mths. The dealer gradually replaced parts until the last tow when they replaced the computer after which fixed the problem. The dealer them told him he had wiped his hands of him and never to return even for servicing.
A couple of years ago I grabbed a GWM dual-cab ute with ~75,000 kms on the clock for only $7000. It has been brilliant. Most of the essential electronics works, but there is nothing fancy. I fitted an after market dash cam and reverse cam to it for peanuts. No rust. But the paint job was not good, so I sanded it down and re-did it myself. It is what it is, it is not a "penis car" but a work vehicle. The power is OK, even towing a trailer, and the 5-spd manual trans is great. It even handles and brakes OK.
The previous driver must have stood on the brakes all day, so I replaced the front pads and rotors and the rear shoes, and replaced and bled the clutch and brake fluids.
There is a special tool necessary to remove the front rotors from the hubs, and you can't buy one unless you are an authorized dealer, so independent mechanics-watch out. However, I reasoned that many components were knock offs or licensed from other vehicle makers, so I grabbed a Bluepac NPRS-12, and with a little filing down in a couple of spots it worked a treat. The power plant for example, is a copy of the Mitsubishi 2 liter petrol. The hubs are a Triton or Ranger copy, I forget which.
Everything is fairly rugged and basic, which I like. The tub has a thick tough plastic cover which is only mildly scratched and I have put everything in there, tools, rubbish building materials, sand mulch, old scrap metal with sharp edges.
The wheel arches have shitty plastic though, which degrades and falls off. No bid deal, at least for me.
The battery was a cheap after-market affair, so I replaced that. Manual windscreen wipers, so I get to control them when it rains. Some chrome bits had some mild surface rust. The wheel nuts and studs are not cheese, and tolerate the half-inch impact drill very well. As with most cars, the jack was average, but I always get I high spec jack and chuck it in the back anyway, when I get a vehicle.
Anyway, the GWM dual cab ute is a much better second-hand buy that this LDV model, but if you are going for a 4WD version, I have heard that GWM had some transfer-case issues in some of their earlier models.
My old rig does not overheat even under heavy load on a really hot day, so no worries there either. It is just one vehicle though. I can't speak for all the models of GWM out there. I could not even buy a HiLux or ranger or whatever, even with a odometer reading of 400,000 for anywhere near the price and condition of the GWM, so I am ahead there too.
Ford Vs Holden
Toyota Vs Nissan
Now……
LDV Vs GWM
@@DMSVICAU They can race in the Bathurst 100
It's a Chinese sh*tbox. Cousin bought one used with a little over 20,000km on it & the gearbox died before hitting 30,000km. Warranty fixed it, but he resold it & lost $4k on the hunk of junk & was lucky he didn't sell his BT-50 yet.
Totally agree with what you said it’s a CSB
i would like to see a gwm ute review even tho there not that old
@11:15 you say a negative of the longer wheel base is the turning circle or the amount of space you need to do a u’ie is “reduced”. Shouldn’t that be “increased.
Like my mechanic said 'if a company can afford to sell a new car for as cheap as they do the what's wrong with them?' which I completely agree with plus I'd rather a ute that has a decent support network over something like the T60.
To be completely honest if I had to get a cheap runabout ute I'd consider a Ssangyong Musso over the T60 even if it has the same sort of support network as the T60.
I dread too read that report about the rust to do with the T60 but I might read it later to see just how bad it is lol.
Honestly suprised by the T60 being today's review car and definitely an eye opener.
Bloody good video guys and look forward to next week's videos as per usual so keep up the good work 👍.
Exactly. Everything is made out of cheap crap. You get what you pay for. I wouldn't even consider this junk.
I love the mega tub model as no one else offers this extended wheel base that does have the rear axle at the front of the tub causing loading and towing to unload the front axle weight which has always made me shy away from dual cabs
Loving these videos! Do you guys reckon you could cover WOVI cars, like the pros and cons? Cheers
Love the old Torana behind the mechanic. Reminds me of my Dads ones
After what the Chinese did with Australian Barley, lobster and wine export industry, and their bond with Russia. I would not purchase a Chinese ute.
Agree to a point. But for consistency I assume you take the same stance with your mobile phone, tablets, TV's and other common Chinese made goods?
@@andyh5666 where possible. tv & appliances S Korea, vehicles Japan & Thailand. Clothes Vietnam. Food Australian. Unfortunately the iPhone is China.
@@tonydoggett7627 iPhone is only assembled in China, and the latest one only uses about 10% China-made parts. Very different from buying a mostly Chinese SAIC/GWM shitbox car, don't be too troubled by your iPhone!
@tonydoggett7627 Agreed but how far do you take it do you purchase anything from China wich is very hard to avoid.
Just noticed Britz ( formerly of the Hiace fan club) are now using LDVs. Obviously they've done a business case.
Great videos so informative. I have a 2000 Lexus lx470 with 420k on the clock still drive great. Maybe a review on a super high k older vehicle would be good???
I will stick to a older higher Kay name brand . Having said that these don’t seem awful . All the dual cabs have issues
Not sure if it was mentioned but they overheat towing, or at least the early ones did.
Watching from New Zealand, we brought a 2022 t60, 6 speed manual, it's currently in the dealership getting a replacement gearbox under warranty at 31,000 km, there's been a few other electrical gremlins 😂
There's no way I'd own one of these out of warranty so will be selling before that runs out.
Sell asap. A QLD high court has already ruled it unfit for purpose
im actually really glad it doesn't have those "safety" fetures like auto braking or lane keep assist becuase its another thing to fail and they get really annoying. I really hate it when you cant turn that stuff off in a car
You forgot to mention that OEM spares and panels are non existent!
In some cases insurers are cash settling customers or you will wait up to a year or more for parts if you prang it.
Thanks so much for the input!
We have got them now in melb
Host is so connected to us when I skipped to the driving section while giving us the "do you care", my mental state became clear
Larry Da-Vid? Surely the legroom was 'prettay, prettay, prettay good'
Squinting into the sun 🤣. Never thought of it like that, but cannot unsee it now 👍👍🤣
It looks ok, very generic but all the time I know deep down that the quality is completely lacking underneath. All Chinese cars are nice on the surface but never have any substance beneath them. Your review is great, it’s the product lol. We are used to LDV as rusty old vans in the 80s and 90s when I was a kid here in the UK
It's a no brained, get an older/higher milage Triton for the same price.
mine is a rust bucket already and lives at the repair shop, i am ready to give it away for peace of mind !!!
Ive bought 2020 ldv t60 trailrider 2nd hand 65000 k's not one issue so far and its a diesel
Just tried to get my almost brother in laws to pair with my phone and set the sound up for him. He sold me his 2009 Hiace last year and took his Bluetooth to FM adapter out and has it in the LDV. I just spent an hour trying to get his phone to pair telling him he doesn’t need it anymore and just gave up. His is a 2023.
These are good utes provided you buy them for the right reasons:
If you are looking for a Ute that will last you 20 years, something you can pass down to your grandkids, look elsewhere. There are perfect for:
1) a new individual who is starting out a new business. Cheap Ute to get around and carry his tools. After 5 years when the business is established, throw this one and invest in the better Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger etc.
2) you need a Ute for your employees to travel around in. You aren’t sure who will be driving them. You invest in this, you make your money in 3-5 years. If this lasts you any more than 5 years very good. Otherwise, no loss to you.
If you are going to buy used then assuming these have a life span of 5 years, take away that many years off that used ute
I would love you to do the same video as this but on the GWM ,I have heard they are pretty good.
No still miss my VZ Ute it did everything that was expected of it and was never going to be just a show piece. Have absolutely no interest in buying a dual cab Ute let alone a Chinese or even an Indian one.
Love the little things like "paying bill" at ad segment haha
How about doing a Haval
Quick glance, what goes wrong takes up around to 1/5 to 1/4 of the entire time stamp…
This is gonna be good 😂
No, just no. Everyone I know who works with SAIC products says they're a disaster, it's embarrassing to be seen in the same suburb as an LDV and they have a terrible attitude to customer service. Buy something better but with a few years and ks on it.
Sensor and electrical problems
Bring Chinese …
Who would have thought!!!
You pay pennies you get junk !!!
Gotta enjoy the rust !!!
BWM and LDV are different breeds. Their quality and rep are heaven and hell in 2024.
In the UK we don't get a lot of Chinese products you get. And then there are our price hikes. So you are lucky to have more choice with the age old argument of cheap new or older used.
If they rust here in Oz you guys in the UK and North America will only have them for a couple of years before they dissolve completely!
If u put MSG in the fuel tank they dont rust
You might say buy one of these because they're cheaper, however the depreciation on them or risk of issues literally makes them more expensive than just buying a reliable japanese brand.
I think if you’re somewhat understanding of finance you’re not going to get screwed over anymore through a bank or dealer. Most of them have pretty competitive options now.
Anything better than leasing as a private consumer
Virtually every 90s Honda interior with over 350k-400k virtually looks like this LDV new and that is no exageration.
If there is a 20 year old LDV interior that still looks new only then will I confirm the interior is durable.
Many 90s Honda with 350k-400k is still on the same factory sealed power unit and 90% still with matching factory sealed transmissions , both manual and surprisingly the automatics.
If there is a LDV that can even reach 20-25 years with the same PU and trans only then will it gain some confidence and respect.
ha
hi i have the 2020 t60 pro and its a great 4x4 no major problem with it have had 2 glow plugs replaced under warranty i do wish it had a rear diff lock in the pro and yes i would buy another one