The HIDDEN 16-Player Mario Kart LAN Mode | Double Dash
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is the story of the secret 16-player Mario Kart Mode Double Dash LAN. This involves some hard to find equipment, lots of controllers, and at least 15 other friends. Eight teams of two people taking turns driving or throwing items.
Shoutout to TheresGabe for the inspo & being literally the only other person I could find that actually had 16 people show up all at once.
0:00 Intro
01:00 Context
01:50 What you need
05:29 Gameplay
#mariokart #mariokartdd #nintendo - เกม
This is something that I didn't know I needed in my life until now.
15 friends?
Ever since 2003 I was super intrigued by that image of the LAN menu at the back of the Double Dash’s box. I’m so happy to finally see it in action!
I hope you guys had tons of fun!
As a controller and console modder, you have just inspired me to design an all-in-one 16 player double dash travel kit.
Ambitious? Yes.
Expensive? Yes.
A waste of my efforts? Also, probably, Yes.
But we do what we must. Because we can.
I'd pay for that
hey man ! how does your all in one modding goes ?
Don't use Gamecubes, it'll be very expensive.
You can cut up a Wii and make it portable for much less.
I look forward to it
This has to be SOOO expensive… amazing setup dude, I wanna play so bad!
It's only expensive because he used Gamecubes for some reason. If you just use Wiis it's a lot cheaper.
I feel like this set up can be brought to locals to help recoup your costs
For real. Just to buy eight GCN LAN adapters probably cost him $900.
Warms my heart to see the time and effort put into making this video. All just to have a crap ton of friends over to play mario kart on a bigger scale than ever before.
Lmao this was not the video I expected. The person who did the shooting did great.
Fun video! I think I heard that double dash is super Unbalanced so random characters does make it more fun in that way too.
Must admit that I'm curious what the whole thing ended up costing.
i will never financially recover from this (until i sell it back on ebay)
I've done this once when I was kid and I never had the opportunity to do it again. also the fact this video has so little views is a crime. great video man. keep up the good work
Also to add here, someone on reddit got this working between two Gamecubes, a Wii, and a Wii U with homebrew installed on the Wii's.
This is so cool! I definitely want to do this at least once, it would be awesome to play Double Dash with 16 friends.
Only downside would be the price and not being able to pick your character, which is a bummer, but the randomness makes sense in the spirit of Double Dash
I'm glad there's more 16 player double dash content on youtube I wish you could upload you guys playing it if you have any other footage
It makes me very sad that this feature isn't taken advantage of by emulators to have a pseudo-online experience for the game. I know with software like Xlink it is possible to play this game online on original hardware, but this feature just screams of potential via modding, sorta like Slippi or CTGP. Thank you for making this video!
actually, modding has been attempted for YEARS on gamecube LAN games. it’s just that, unfortunately, it’s currently too difficult for anyone to find a workaround to solve the issue. as of the time of me writing this, there’s a $2100 bounty up for anyone who can fix the problem.
the problem being, there's no variable input delay which makes long distance sessions a stuttery and slow mess. double dash LAN has been possible online for a good while, believe it or not.
Great work! I've always been aware of the LAN mode in double dash since reading about it in a magazine back in the day. Its very cool to see process of actually getting it all set up.
You can also get 16 players by using only 4 Gamecubes and having two teams on each. It's more cramped, but a whole lot less expensive! I'm getting close to having this setup myself, with a third Gamecube setup, adapter and controllers and all, should arrive next month! I'll have to wait to pick up a fourth set, but I am going to call it there; all adding more does is add more real estate, and no other BBA game uses 8 consoles!
as far as I know LAN mode stops letting you do split screen like that after connecting a third console :( hoping i'm wrong
@@KadencePlays It stops you from doing 4-way split screen, but not 2-way. I've done it myself using Wiis loaded with Nintendont and emulating the BBA. Don't rely on that as a complete solution though; in my experience, three or more consoles without any Gamecubes connected gets unstable. Adding Gamecubes makes the connection more reliable for some reason.
@@jeremycole9809 hey im also interested in this, i have bunch of wiis and gamecubes. How do you connect wii and gamecube together? On same wifi router (gamecube via cable obviously)?
Is there a cheaper alternative to the gamecube lan adapter?
@@petarpetrovic257 For Wii, you can link up via Wifi, but you really should get some USB-LAN adapters and cables; that makes the game much more stable and less stuttery. The Wii needs to load the game via Nintendont--an application that loads Gamecube games from SD or USB--and have the BBA option set. Make sure you have one of your internet connection options set to Wired mode and have the BBA Emulation set to that network profile, or it won't work.
Make sure you use a router rather than a network switch; the Wii won't cooperate with a switch alone. For the Gamecube side of things, there is no cheaper alternative to the BBA--the Wii has you covered for being cheap. If using only Gamecubes, a network switch or router will do fine, but if you are having both Gamecubes and Wiis connected this way, connect the Gamecubes to the router first, the nconnect the Wiis; the creator of Nintendont makes it clear that it won't work right unless you do this.
@@jeremycole9809 thx i managed to do 8 players on 2 wii via wifi, but it was laggy at points. I thought real gamecube would improve it but i dont have bba adapters for real gc hardware. :D
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i've always wondered what this would be like! thanks for taking the time & effort to document this!! so cool :)
this was beautiful! i also like that kadence dressed up as luigi :)
Thank you for doing this and documenting it!
This was awesome to see and I’m really glad to have this game back in my collection.
Awesome!! About to pull this for 8 players, but sharing one big screen with a HDMI multiviewer. Each console gets a section of the TV divided equally.
totally crazy to know this 20 years after
thanks dude
Grew up on Mario Kart Wii, fell in love with Double Dash later on. This looks like so much fun, the opportunity to get some friends together and try it out would be fantastic.
This is the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen. Kudos to you sir
kudos to pulling it all together. looks like a rad time.
Now this is a true Nintendo Experience this is what they wanted and pictured and ya did it man great video I love the GameCube
Your efforts do not go unnoticed
I need to try this at my local Comic Con
wow so happy to have seen this! seems like a lovely time
Awesome, I really wanted to see this, i thought it would need only 4 GCN to play with 16 players, but it seems every gamecube only supports 2 players for LAN mode.
you a legend my dude
0:59 the friends is the hardest part
This video is criminally underrated
This is really easy and much, much, MUCH cheaper to do with Wiis. Softmod each Wii, install a fan-made piece of software called Nintendont, sideload or rip Mario Kart to each one, plug in any USB ethernet adapter, and go! You can even use a combination of Gamecubes and Wiis if you already have a mix of both.
At $40-$50 per Wii, $10 per generic controller (x2), and $10 per LAN adapter you're looking at less than $80 per system. Assuming you already have the networking equipment and TVs, you should come in around $600 for the complete setup. I can't even imagine what you paid to assemble this using real Gamecubes. The GCN LAN adapter alone usually costs over $120 each.
Hi Alex! That's what I tried first. Unfortunately it got flakey with 8 systems connected. Wish that did work :)
@@KadencePlays I will admit I’ve never tried eight Wiis. I have networked two Wiis and a Wii with a GameCube, which worked perfectly. Nintendont documentation includes many caveats, workarounds, and special cases for LAN-enabled games and makes no such warning about Mario Kart though.
In any case, great video. It looked like a good time!
This is so cool man
This is in my bucket list
This video is actually an example of why League of Legends and games like it are successful
this is sick af
Loved the video. I'm trying to set up 8 player myself and I've a question for you. Did you use normal ethernet cables to connect the GameCube to the hub and together or what cables did you use?
Imagine having enough friends for this
6:03
You could say a.... MARIO PARTY
I will show myself out now
Truly epic! This is legendary, the bravest consumerist move ever.
Hiya! Been wanting to leave a comment for a while, but I've been waiting until a certain time.
Just wanna say thanks for this video. I saw this back in... September 2022, and... let's just say... it had a definitive influence on me. ^^
Back in 2005, I took part in an 8 TV Lan tourney and that was a magical experience for me, though I honestly thought that that time would've been the only time I experience that. Though after seeing this video... I was basically like "You know what... I wanna make this happen again!"
So I did! :)
(With some help)
After much time (And $), I procured not only what I needed for 8 TV Lan, but... also a means to record All 8 Screens! 😁
Hopefully it's ok if I post this link. Here's what I believe is the very first Fully Recorded and documented 8 TV Lan race! ^^
th-cam.com/video/J9eigrDfGdI/w-d-xo.html
So yes, thanks again for doing this video! :)
It gave me one heck of a push to realize a dream of mine. ^^
Hi! Thank you so much for writing this comment. It made my day :) I'm so happy you finished this project! Not enough people get to enjoy it. After this video, I worked with Ludwig for a livestream and we also had to tackle capturing 8 input feeds. However, I don't think we actually intended to save the footage like you did. th-cam.com/video/Lfmk7jrSB0c/w-d-xo.html thank you and congrats again!
@@KadencePlays Many thanks! It was quite the undertaking... definitely a pricy one, and setting the whole thing up... was a day of it's own haha XD
I've yet to truly complete the setup though, as I still don't have 16 controllers yet, but it's definitely on my todo list, amongst other things (Like HD recording for all 8 screens. ^^)
And yeah, I did come across that stream about a month ago, pretty dang entertaining. The commentary kinda reminds me of those MK8 tourneys that Nintendo did not too long ago. ^^
Your a Legend!
This is incredible
I bet your wallet felt that. I am crying for it. Wouldn't have the dolphin way been as good?
LAN party with Kirby Air Ride. That’s gonna be the one
pretty epic bro
the best part is that nintendo CAN NOT turn dow the servcer, since the gamecube is the server of your local network!
I definitely want to try this one day.
this is incredible
Now that…… is a Mario Party
I don't know what I'm more jealous of: the friend group or the PVM lol
I too have been trying to accomplish this for many years now slowly buying all the parts I'm still not there yet I intend to make a full movable rig with all GameCubes and TVs attached
Looks pretty fun
Holy shit, this is bonkers. 10/10
This is what I want on the next super smash bros
Now with a modded Wii or Wii U you can use Nintendont and Emulate the Broadband Adapter.
Crazy to see 16 players on the gamecube
This can also be done with Dolphin... It's also much easier. I am using the Wii adapter for my GC controllers and enable LAN.
Though a truly original experience would be truly amazing!
This is the dream for sure
WOW THIS IS AMAZING 😍😍😍
I always wanted to make a tournament like this.
Amazing
I appreciate the animal crossing music and the effort put into this video!! :)
i never got 16 people but I got 8 person double dash using 2 computers with dolphin. I also sorta got it to work with 4 wiis running nintendont with emulated bba over wifi lol but it wasnt the best
I wanna do this now
bucket list
muito bom!
Honestly, setting up the wii to do this isn’t too difficult either. Wiis, usb dongles and sd cards are also way cheaper than buying the broadband adapter, the gamecube, and the physical copies of double dash
trust me i tried it that first - it doesn't work as nicely as it should
@@KadencePlays what happened exactly?
@@memoryaccessviolation it can lag a lot, dont know if this is the case with real gamecubes tho
all you need is 4 TVs, four people on four consoles.
Wish I had 15 friends to do this with lol
The version of mario kart DD matter when you are going to play in LAN mode? Or you need to have ALL the games in the same European, American or Japanese version?
with less than 16 players (say 4 on lan mode) do players get to select their loadouts?
nope lol
If Nintendo is to ever remaster this game! They need to bring this mode back!!
You can do this WAY cheaper using only Wiis, if you use nintendont there is a setting bba emulation where it enables you to connect multiple wiis (and gamecubes) together, also with a moded wii you dont need a game disc and lastly they are realy cheap and common
i tried that first! they dont connect to each other as reliably after awhile!!
@@KadencePlays You connected them using wifi or ethernet adaptors?
@@thanos_x23 ethernet
@@KadencePlays oh ok. thanks for the clarification
@@thanos_x23 Yeah, I tried this myself when I first started to build my setup. Wii's with Nintendont are pretty unstable. Even with a single Wii in the Mix, you'll be lucky to get through one race without a disconnection, even with a LAN adapter. The Wii's themselves just don't transfer data fast enough.
The most reliable is connecting to gamecubes themselves, with BBA's
That being said, if you have a PC that can run Dolphin Emu well... and can link it to your gamecube... that works pretty well too. You'll occasionally have a stutter or two every now and then... but it seems pretty stable.
That being said though... Gamecubes are still the best way to do it. ^^
That must have cost over 1k to make it happen...!
I want to do this with another consoles too. PS2 is too hard to find Old Fat PS2 for connect. Which one you can make Lan party like this? Teach me...Master
Nintendont emulator on the wii suppports emulation of broadband adapter now!
just wait until you hear about 24 player multiplayer...
great job 16 ppl playing.. 2 as team on each tv
I wonder how dolphin can handle this…
pog
Just lightly flexing those PVMs huh lmao, I'm insanely jealous
If you had used Swiss you didn’t need to buy any games. Just run iso games. It’s probably a gray area but still :-) could have saved you a few pennies there
Hoping to do this one day. My siblings and I played the heck out of this growing up. Now I have nieces and nephews too! Does anyone know if japanese and English copies are compatible?
Hot dog! That looks like fun!
hey I heard it's possible to do this splitscreen 4 controllers per gamecube
Yes, it's possible 😉
No idea if you're still replying to these comments, but was power consumption a worry? I would imagine having 8 tvs and 8 GameCubes could be dangerous if all plugged into the same power circuit. If so, what did you do to fix this? I'm planning a setup sort of like this but I can't find much online and I really want to make sure I can do it correctly and safely. Thanks!
So I am not knowledge about this either, but when I asked around from before, I was told that gamecubes and small TVs do not draw very much power. I ended up splitting the setups between two different circuts/powerstrips and it worked out fine
@@KadencePlays Thanks for the help! Really appreciate it!
this can be do it with switch or wii??
That sucks you can't choose your characters/car. My brothers are gonna be super disappointed with that.
we got 24 players on mario kart wii now thanks to a mod
cool
Can you also connect multiple nintendo switches and play mario kart 8 deluxe?
Yeah, but you won’t have 16 people participating in one race (iirc maxes at 12)
Is there a way to use isos instead of the discs? Or has anyone found a good way to do it with the Wii and Homebrew?
not yet, at least that i know of
@@KadencePlays I'm gona test this, but can we not just use Nintendon't and it's BBA emulation to do this?
i talked about this in the video, i found the bba emulation to get flakey after connecting more and more connections. seems fine connecting a couple of wiis but seemingly had issues after 4 or so. lmk if you experience anything different@@Auddy07
also if you have 15 friends coming over you dont want to deal with any flakiness/instability IMO@@Auddy07
@@KadencePlays hmm, I wonder what the limit is for it, if it gets weird after 4
you could have saved alot of money using wiis and connecting to lan with the wii lan adapter and nintendont
Trust me I tried that first! Didn’t work that great
So is there a specific reason why you shouldn’t mix a wii into there? Does it not connect properly to the game cubes?
it was just kinda flakey when i first tried it with wiis and you dont want flakiness when that many people are coming over to your apt
@@KadencePlays thank you for letting me know! I understand I wouldn’t want flakiness either
@@KadencePlays another question let’s say I did 4 big TVs would I be able to squeeze 4 people onto one GameCube? Eliminating the need for 8 consoles and 8 games bringing total down to 4 consoles 4 games ?
@@damiengemini5140yes, you can do this with four cubes
A Wii isn’t compatible with the lan adapter
So you had a Mario Party to Play Mario Kart
interesting question mario kart wii had no lan mode , so annoying is double dash worked by not wii!
Is it really hidden if it's a visible option from the main menu?
the option is hidden unless you have at least two consoles connected w/an obscure adapter!
@@KadencePlays ah. My bad
I think Charlie aka moistcritikal aka penguinz0 needs to do this as well
We could do that with the Dolphin emulator.