The weight and turning circle are what decides how the tipper will complete a turn on a roundabout. The cammer has never drove a truck to understand the limitations!
Like most cyclists, and thats from experience. So many are arrogant and think they can do as they please, obsessed with the law being on their side yet they flout the highway code at every opportunity. They usually have a helmet cam as well, just to piss car drivers off with the “its going on TH-cam mate” line. Wayne Kerrs.
Yep. Cyclist can’t be held accountable for the lorry driver’s choice to overreact, but cyclist is absolutely in charge of their own choice to be a inconsiderate road user just to make a point.
@@oddities-whatnottry cycling sometime, and see how you would react to some of the shit that goes on? Unfortunately some cyclists are twats, same as car, lorry drivers and motorcyclists🙄
The biker decides to piss Jewson off, so cycles in middle lane, when he can be using the bus lane. He should have his bike removed. Its people like him that give considerate bikers a bad name
Did a chunk of the video get cut off from the start? I'm wondering if the cyclist is getting revenge for the lorry cutting him off earlier maybe? Otherwise why the feck would he put this footage online? If there was no reason for it then yes, he's a right Jeremy Hunt.
Why on earth do cyclists moan when vehicles pass them too close and yet are quite content to put themselves at danger by going into the same narrow spaces beside a moving vehicle and placing themselves in a blind spot??
The turning circle on an 8 wheeler is very large in comparison to a car or an artic unit. So, dumb comment from someone without hands-on experience of all types.
@@Professor-Scientist because the overall effective wheelbase is longer on an 8x4 tipper than you average 4x2 or 6x2 tractor units and even 6x4 tractor units, it is also larger than your edge case (uncommon) 8x6 and 8x8 tractor units, the effective wheelbase on an 8x4 etc is from the centre point of axle 1 and 2 to the centre point of axle 3 and 4, also keep in mind the the maximum steering axle of a single axle on the front of a 4x2 or 6x# is often greater than the maximum effective steering axle on twin-steer. remember the semi trailer only dictates turning circle if there is an implicit obstacle, and in the case of a mini roundabout it is not an obstacle, thus the turning circle of the tractor unit would the the limiting factor at THAT mini roundabout. and while the driver of the 8x4 tipper could have done a better job they were well within their legal right to do what they did.
@@anoncyclist2131 when you get a licence then come back when you Have..................................................... Failed Double drive even with twin steers are poor at tight turns. It was a non-event anyway.
I have driven a class 1 for over 32 years and in that time I have seen ridiculous car driving people when they pass their test should have to have a day in a class one to see what it's like
My father did exactly that after passing my test 1962 in a Moggy Miner, within 3 months I was driving the construction projects 15 cwt Ford van and 3 ton Trader. Rear wheel steer site dumper and split frame steering loaders. These had lighter steering than the Moggy.
Never ceases to amaze me to see the frequency of submissions where either the cammer was the cause or the object was doing no something reasonable or expected but the cammer feels it’s worthy of criticism.
Yeah, funny how they whine like crazy if you go past them leaving less than 1.5m space - but will then try to squeeze past with about 3 inches to spare, even when traffic is moving. Entitled, arrogant pr!cks mostly.
The UK is probably one of the worst places to drive in if you're a lorry driver. The roads are just too narrow, and the fact that the route planners planning the journey dont even care to find the safest and easiest route possible just makes it even worse.
While working on new road building I asked a County civil engineer why lane aren't made wider at corners and bends, to allow truck drivers to stay within the road markings. Easily done when building roads as most have room to spare, his answer was mainly cost and that car drivers would squeeze another row of cars in.
I used to drive for a company that did seasonal contracts, the Autumn contract was delivering Christmas hampers to residential addresses in North Wales, night outs, the company said that 7 1/2 tonners with sleeper cabs were too expensive to hire so we got 17 tonners instead, what an absolute nightmare, every year negotiating tiny single track roads in the Welsh countryside, i completely ripped the front bumper off one truck trying to turn around after delivering to a house at a long winding dead end road.
@@davidriley2847 do you really think that??? what if the load wont fit on a small vehicle or do yoy expect 26T of bricks to be delivered one ton at a time by transit, grow up!
I always laugh at the name planner, it didn't go down very well when I told one he couldn't plan his way out of the toilet, we weren't exactly best mates.😂
@@stevedawson256 ended up that I let my CPC expire, just couldnt face it anymore. I did get my ADR though to do courier work and that was a good earner in all honesty but again, got fed up in the end of being on motorways all day, peak time in Birmingham, its depressing. I live up north and intend to stay up there. Hate travelling south. I knew a driver at some crap haulage firm I worked at years ago, told the boss he only wanted to go to Scotland on jobs.
As a former transport manager I can appreciate the drivers difficulty. The real question is why on earth wasn't there a restriction on HGV's using such an unsuitable lane ?
Prolly was an “Unsuitable for HGVs” somewhere. That said, they were never making that bend so shouldn’t have even tried, once they knew. I guess no mirror check.
what if that lane was where the delivery was? do you expect 27 transit to deliver one ton at a time? Who says there wasnt a restriction but it still wouldnt stop it getting used
@@JL-rx6hl legally speaking you are correct, but that turn is just not possible in in more than a 7.5 tonner imho. Ideally either an alternate route should have been planned or sought upon seeing the sign (if there is one), but that turn should have been taken far slower, and shunts added to try to get that trailer over more. Thanks to a 20yard road closure in London I found myself cuffing it after 9pm (“London Lorry Ban” territory) and at one point got myself jammed in a box junction at traffic lights turning right, I was shunting for 5 mins much to the annoyance of local traffic and the ubiquitous 3 busses to get that trailer over or I’d have taken out a keep left bollard And a light pole. I guarantee that junction is covered by CCTV for box junction fines, & expected one, but because I was moving & managed to clear; nothing. Nor was there a TFL fine for being over the 16.5 Tonne weight limit overnight. (We have exemptions for the area, but not That way; I actually phoned the Met for a reference number for the incident just in case, once back at base. Driver really messed up big there, so no excuses for them.
@@JL-rx6hl What a silly remark, Truck driver is stupid . If you want 27 tons and you live up there then expect to be using a wheelbarrow a lot. There also could have been another way to the customer.
At 5@18, the black car brake checked the lorry driver, there were no cars coming from the right and he put his foot on the brake. The insurance will probably blame the car driver and maybe the police should have been called.
Where do Highway Maintenance find their drivers? Failures from McLaren F1 training programmes? They are regularly the worst drivers I see on the M11. Middle Lane hogging, tailgating, speeding they do it all. Perhaps they think they are above the law because their truck has a few hi-vis stripes.
Doesn't matter, you shouldn't presume that other drivers are going to act in a logical manner especially if you're driving a large heavy vehicle and especially in the wet.
As a at C and cat D driver, i feel a lot for these chaps the idiocy seen on a daily basis is off the scale, most car drivers have never driven anything bigger than a car and don't fully comprehend the size and weight and space needed to manoeuvre these vehicles , they are completely oblivious, more education is needed at the test to bring an understanding that large vehicles cannot power their way out of situations especially at roundabouts / junctions . And remember, if you have it , it came on a lorry.
Sorry, but we’re the pros on the roads, we have to make allowances for the amateurs. No excuses for the bad trucking shown! That said, what was the cyclist about??
'If you have it, it came on a lorry.' Oh that tired old cliche. Most things you need were brought to you in a car - nurses, doctors, shop assistants, accountants, mechanics, cleaners - we all get to work in cars mate. As for your comment about car drivers not having driven anything bigger than a car, I understand there are bad car drivers out there who don't understand the difficulties of driving an HGV but that doesn't negate the responsibility of a truck driver. You're sharing the road with cars, vans, bikes and pedestrians. The roads don't belong to you, you just use them like everyone else.
@@Raggerty-j4c I have driven vehicles from the Mini upwards to an eight axle mobile crane, when car driving I do give trucks etc. a wide berth. Allow them onto roundabouts, pull out to overtake on hills as the seconds it cost me can be quickly made up. There has always been those who need to be first in line to the next traffic light, yet I've never seen one get a prize. I took the Advanced Drivers Course and tips I got from the police driving instructor has made driving a pleasure. Also passengers do not have to stamp holes in the floor trying to find a foot brake on the passenger side.
Give your journeys a bit more time. Keep a bit more distance between vehicles. Show a bit of restraint and a bit more patience. If everyone did this the roads would be a safer and less stressful place to be.
8 wheelers have a terrible turning circle. At least he knew he wouldnt make it and had a shunt unlike most car drivers just keep going and use the path or verge as an extension of the road
6:14 just a tip to car drivers this car is sitting in the blue trucks blind spot. As a truck driver I ask you to please consider we can’t see you when you sit in this position. No hard feelings.
Just as a tip to other Cat C & CE drivers, those “blindspot” mirrors can be adjusted to eliminate your blindspots so a good check in them means you don’t hit sommat! Been driving heavies a while now, my 1st had a knocker box.
A truck's blind spots are 100% the responsibility of the truck driver. I agree, other vehicles shouldn't linger in a truck's blind spot but it's up to the truck driver to constantly monitor them. If you're relying on car drivers to do it for you then you need to either re-train or find an alternative career.
car driver should have read the road and situation better and eased back behind the truck so the truck could pull across, truck driver should have been aware of him though
Jack Lynch tunnel in Cork, Ireland. car is completely wrong here, there are 2 lanes in this tunnel which come from 2 different dual carriagways, there is a solid white line through the tunnel until you get out the other end, trucks or any other vehicle for that matter need to merge into the left lane after the tunnel but stupid people in the left lane dont hold back and let people merge, instead they proceed to sit in blind spots and/or overtake on the inside which is illegal
Then something isn't right if you have such a large blind spot, most of these occasions happen because the truck travels too fast for the conditions and loads of truck drivers Bully car drivers,
4:11 I'm going to hazard a guess there was previous to that vid. This shows the trucker totally at fault but what happened before the first round about? I hope the cammer gave the FULL video to the police.!
That tipper done well to get to that point before having to reverse. There was a RAB in Vradford i used to hate using but the drop off was just up that road a bit. I couldn't get round it in two tries and had to take the third bite to get up that road. it was a nightmare.....poor road planning at it's best
A lady had that happen on the A48 but it was an artic trailer full of coal. Truck miss judged a stream running alongside the road and dropped the truck into it spilling the load. The lady's coal shed was full by next morning.
It doesn’t matter what way you look at the standard of driving is getting worse wether you are a elderly, professional truck,PCV, service, driving instructor or driving examiner, or just a car driver, the people mainly condone the elderly for bad driving I’m 82 years and have driving since I was 17 years old and I consider myself as a good and safe driver I have been a truck and coach driver since I was 21 I retired when I was 72.
The guy in the car had no need at all to stop and knew exactly what he was doing the road was clear and Lorries can't just stop like a car does it takes time, definitely an insurance job there
Road rage lorry with Merc. Obviously, like everyone else, but wondering whether Merc brake-checked the lorry as the lorry braked a couple of times. But in the end, should drive sensibly
What the vast majority of these dashcam warriors don't realise is that when they send their footage through to the police, one of the first things that the police will do is to examen what the dashcam warrior was actually doing! There have been countless occasions when the police have actually prosecuted the dashcam warrior because the police have deemed that THEIR standard of driving was actually dangerous and illegal! There's a kind of a hilarious and poetic justice to that! What is it they say about people in glass houses? 🤔😂😂
The standard of driving in the U.K., is appalling, with many long term drivers driving like they are 5year olds. It’s the easiest test in the world to pass, and once passed a lot of drivers, choose to ignore everything they were taught and drive like a muppet. That’s why the police need to be informed on each and every occasion .
Merc & Artic, don’t know what had gone on earlier but there was no need for the Merc to stop at the roundabout which was completely clear from the right. Stupid brake check!!
4:01, we Dutch also pass vehicles between the pavement and vehicles. It is normal. But if you are allowed to bike on the bus lane, then do that and do not block other traffic. If he was not allowed to do so, then it was okay.
You can see the buslane ends pretty quick, so honestly it probably wasn't worth it as he wasn't turning left further ahead. Just the typical road toxicity, biker would be the type of person to brake check people. Bikes are considered traffic here in the UK too by the way, cars got to treat them like another car, as our high way code hints. Bikes don't yield to the left unless they want to be overtaken, that's pretty much the general rule, but they have to treat lanes the same way, so if there's an arrow turning left, the biker cannot go forward. But people ignore the rules because they're bikers which is so frustrating to see.
@@JonathanDavidsonn ofcourse they are traffic. Pedestrians are traffic. Person in a wheelchair in the street is traffic. Maybe you mean driver. Yes, they are drivers. Person on a horse is a driver, person on a moped is a driver. Thus the cyclist is allowed to drive in front of that vehicle. I think, as a Dutch and used to cyclists ( we all are a cyclist here) that he did nothing wrong. But we learn to keep to the side of the road. So, he did okay. They better make a protected cycle path there and thus take away a car lane.
@@gerhard6105 Yeah I'm not disagreeing it's more so our country's main division in mentality lately I wanted to specifically highlight, they don't think of cyclists as another road user, more like an annoying pedestrian. But yeah I hope the biker did go straight forward on that junction further ahead otherwise they're an even worse knob. Absolutely love the cycling infrastructure in your country. I mostly cycle using trails rather than using roads because of uncaring drivers :')
...too bad that other doad users don't understand that HGV vehicles need more room and are slower and it is hard to see even thou u got at least 6 mirrors. Hat off for u tarmac heroes! 👍
I've been driving class one for 42 years, and I agree with you.. the standard of lorry driving by some (not all) lorry drivers these days is abysmal. I'm glad I'm well retired out of it now . Was a good crack once ,
Only today I had a lorry 2yards from my rear bumper in 50mph traffic on M1 North bound,I was on the inside lane as was exiting at next junction,I was keeping up with traffic so wasn't slowing him down,I eventually wound my window down and gave him 2 fingers,to which he then decided to overtake!TWAT!
@@stevennazar2102 my mode of transportation is a wheelchair or mobility scooter , to slow for the road , to fast for the path . The main road through the village is a 7.5 ton weight limit and yet cars vans bikers or truckers use to road - 44 tons - even past the police who do nothing . I was attacked and the police do nothing - I have not been out side now in 12 months . No body cares , nobody helps . The police are just to busy - last month a school girl was knock down and killed on a crossing the truck driver got 18 years ( suspended ) for 20 years . There’s just No justice in the world - I live in England . I’m now to scared to go out - 1 year ago I last went out . I hear you …
Lorry drivers in South Wales remove their rear number plates so that they can speed through the 50mph sections and use lane 3 to overtake. Zero police presence means zero chance of getting caught.
That's an old trick used when I was a kid, another is two or more on the same reg. They work for a while and then the cops get them, along with the chain hanging down over the plate, black electric tape turning a 5 to 6 etc. Up on the NW Coast they will be caught in double quick time, near the police college.
0:57 no he couldn't do that in one. Tippers steer like shit, good at speed but manoeuvring they're terrible, I found that DAFs are the worst but MANs and Scania's are much better but still wouldn't have made that in one.
5:00 ok so the HGV Driver should have his license revoked, don't give me all this BS about not tangling with a lorry, the lorry was 100% at fault from the off! He was in the wrong lane and driving like a pr1ck following the mercedes
I hope that the artic driver in the first clip wasn’t using a car sat nav as no way should that road have been on a planned route for,such a long vehicle. Don’t know why the cyclist posted his Jewson clip, he was breaking all sorts of highway rules and riding dangerously. The HGV at 4’30” was just completely illegal all the way round! By the way, somebody ought to proof read their subtitles for spelling, grammar and syntax!
The wagon at the island had no choice they are not small vehicles and I have had to do the same some people have no idea how crap the turning circle is on a wagon
At 3:46, first you drove on his left side even though everywhere he has to give you six feet of space. Then you became one of those goons on a bike that just wanted to hold him up rather than ride in the bus lane, it is no wonder that drivers have low opinions of cyclists.
4:14 that lorry was the one in the wrong there, he was in the wrong lane to start with, don't know if the merc had somehow p*ssed him off, but either way, at that point it was 100% the lorry.
Why blame foreign drivers? almost all those clips were UK registrations indication probable UK drivers, blame where its due not where your bias points it
All things considered, in my experience truck drivers aren't generally bad but where they do seem to lose their shit is through roadworks on motorways with average speed cameras. They just go into moronic tailgating mode. I'd have cops in unmarked cars constantly patrolling motorway roadworks and any trucker using his truck as a weapon to intimidate should lose his licence immediately.
It's said the section of the road widening works on the M1 near Dunstable made more money off the average speed cameras than the cost of the widening works.
@@Raggerty-j4c A lot of tailgating is to stop others cutting in. I know it's not right to tailgate but try leaving the correct thinking, braking gap and I bet up will have to slow up and make it again.
@@TheByard So you believe deliberately giving yourself no braking distance by tailgating is the best way to defend your braking distance? That's the most bizarre reply I've ever read.
Like most things these days a few days training and they get the ticket just like plumbers electricians and so on even doctors get a quick pass i.e. less than 5 years ???? When you dont give experiance the respect it deserves this is what happens. Most lorry drivers frighten the shit out of me these days some simply dont have a friggin clue or they go into macho man mode and by god when that happens all hell breaks lose !!!!!!!!
But he needed to be going the other way, so would it have been better for him to do a sixteen point turn in the middle of the road, it only says "avoid" not "don't" stop being so holier than thou.
After watching the tipper overturning serval times he could have made it if he did it slow...taken the lane straight ahead aiming for the first black pole and may have had to reverse and jack knife to point of cab mirror nearly touching trailer been in a few situations like this myself..or the other thing ring transport manager explaining problem .
not really a true statement, if the cyclist is a pratt then he is a pratt and deserves calling out, applies equally to car and HGV drivers and with some exceptions he's not too unfair, a bit nit picky sometimes maybe
I feel I have to mention here, the vast majority of lorry drivers in the UK are at the top of their profession. Professional, hard-working, excellent drivers. I've had my life saved, as a biker, more times than I can count by a truck driver, and half the issues that arrive are because of other drivers not understanding how a lorry works, where it needs to be placed to get round a corner, and generally being a jerk
'I've had my life saved, as a biker, more times than I can count by a truck driver.' Really? I've been riding motorbikes since 1983 and my life has never been saved by a truck driver. I shudder to think how you ride if you're so reliant on truckers to save your life.
@@Raggerty-j4c I've been riding for 40 years, all over the world, mostly as a civilian, so it's exposure to a million miles of road, not a "reliance", I never said I relied on truckers. Most of the time lorries are big things to move past. However, I've ridden enough to come across the situation where a lorry has warned me of a cager cunt coming up on the inside, or had a lorry wave me back when I was overtaking to warn me of something in the road that HE can see, but I can't yet. Your arrogance and ignorance are disappointing to see,
@@Raggerty-j4c yeah ffs valid point, just cos its not you doesn't mean its invalid information, if you think back you might just recognise a couple of instances yourself
Why moan about a trucker in front of the police no point so what your stuck behind him many people in life are worse off than stuck behind a truck people with cancer and disability’s n stuff and your moaning didn’t even need to be on this stupid clip
2:06 You were in the wrong lane too. That's a spiral roundabout. Lanes are clearly marked and you are supposed to get in the correct lane as you enter then simply follow the spiral out wards to your exit. If you have to change lanes inwards, you fucked up.
5:16, lorry driver must behave with a big truck with maybe a big load worth loads of money and with a truck worth loads of many. He must drive defensive and not let him get mad to get involved/ play the games. Very unprofessional. What ever the Mercedes driver does.
3:55 I think that is unfair to use rude language to describe this cyclists actions. Had the cyclist moved into the bus lane, you can almost guarantee the Jewson lorry driver would have left hooked them turning into that side road. The road position was defensive cycling.
4:00 his instant rage holds him up. the bike would have been away faster than you, then you would have been stopped by the bike already ahead in the bus lane. screaming at people for costing you 0 seconds, usually means they will treat you like a twat. if you are screaming at someone, you know they are there so there isnt that excuse ppl will no doubt give
No twat on bicycle was causing it all for his cam. But all is not lost i know know that driver and when go see him weekend i will see his dash cam as it's on his one and twat on bike is along there often so me and another buddy will be out on our bikes and give him a friendly track style shoulder hook up into a stationary object. Had one a few years back giving me yap when i asked where his lights was and front brake! started getting lippy he didn't need brakes etc as fixed wheel etc etc then i showed why need brakes as shoulder hooked him and he was last seen flying through back window of a car!. Act like a Cnut get treated like one.Simple.
From my experience, lorry drivers are very probably the worst 'drivers' on the road, followed closely by taxi drivers. They just don't seem to give a dam. Sadly, the majority seem to spoil it for the good few.
Although I haven’t encountered many bad lorry drivers in my time, I have seen untold amounts of bad taxi drivers. They’re much worse than Uber drivers, in my opinion.
The consequences of lorry drivers getting it wrong is often catastrophic They have to be better than everyone else and I reckon they usually are But when they are bad it really shows
Tipper turning circles are really bad, not much he could have done there. There's no way he was making it round in one go.
Not much he could ? He could have stopped , what sort of armchair do you drive ? Stupid comment
Stopped? He did stop, and did a minor shunt to complete the manoeuvre.
@@alexrobinson2281you are on about a different clip. How embarrassing you stupid commenter 😂
The weight and turning circle are what decides how the tipper will complete a turn on a roundabout. The cammer has never drove a truck to understand the limitations!
@@neilduran3586Neither has alexrobinson2281 by the sounds of it 😉
Cyclist at 3:45 is a right Nob
Like most cyclists, and thats from experience. So many are arrogant and think they can do as they please, obsessed with the law being on their side yet they flout the highway code at every opportunity. They usually have a helmet cam as well, just to piss car drivers off with the “its going on TH-cam mate” line. Wayne Kerrs.
Yep. Cyclist can’t be held accountable for the lorry driver’s choice to overreact, but cyclist is absolutely in charge of their own choice to be a inconsiderate road user just to make a point.
@@oddities-whatnottry cycling sometime, and see how you would react to some of the shit that goes on? Unfortunately some cyclists are twats, same as car, lorry drivers and motorcyclists🙄
Just that one?
The biker decides to piss Jewson off, so cycles in middle lane, when he can be using the bus lane. He should have his bike removed. Its people like him that give considerate bikers a bad name
Just like you have them with motorbikes to , those a- holes 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
Did a chunk of the video get cut off from the start? I'm wondering if the cyclist is getting revenge for the lorry cutting him off earlier maybe? Otherwise why the feck would he put this footage online? If there was no reason for it then yes, he's a right Jeremy Hunt.
@@staggabob he's a complete idiot either way. you don't pick a fight with a lorry on a bicycle, unless you're suicidal.
He is lucky the truck driver didn't get out of the cab and make that bike a permanent part of the cyclist's anatomy.
Why on earth do cyclists moan when vehicles pass them too close and yet are quite content to put themselves at danger by going into the same narrow spaces beside a moving vehicle and placing themselves in a blind spot??
The turning circle on an 8 wheeler is very large in comparison to a car or an artic unit. So, dumb comment from someone without hands-on experience of all types.
No it isn't very short term on 8 wheeler
How is it larger than an artic?
@@Professor-Scientist because the overall effective wheelbase is longer on an 8x4 tipper than you average 4x2 or 6x2 tractor units and even 6x4 tractor units, it is also larger than your edge case (uncommon) 8x6 and 8x8 tractor units, the effective wheelbase on an 8x4 etc is from the centre point of axle 1 and 2 to the centre point of axle 3 and 4, also keep in mind the the maximum steering axle of a single axle on the front of a 4x2 or 6x# is often greater than the maximum effective steering axle on twin-steer.
remember the semi trailer only dictates turning circle if there is an implicit obstacle, and in the case of a mini roundabout it is not an obstacle, thus the turning circle of the tractor unit would the the limiting factor at THAT mini roundabout.
and while the driver of the 8x4 tipper could have done a better job they were well within their legal right to do what they did.
@@Professor-Scientist Learn the difference between size and turning circle. Then ask a sensible question.
@@STEPHANDANG Didn't do you any good then. Get more experience.
Second one was full lock and it’s a small roundabout so no he couldn’t have done any better
Correct. I’ve driven twin steer trucks and they’re a nightmare.
full lock but maybe 2-3m too early after going past 1st, i reckon it could clear if he got to the island
@@anoncyclist2131 when you get a licence then come back when you Have..................................................... Failed Double drive even with twin steers are poor at tight turns. It was a non-event anyway.
And the highway code states you should avoid attempting U turns on mini roundabouts.
@@buckrogers2828 yet if i posted my licence youd find another made up argument right?
I have driven a class 1 for over 32 years and in that time I have seen ridiculous car driving people when they pass their test should have to have a day in a class one to see what it's like
So bad HGV drivers are the fault of car drivers are they?
Agreed, but not all hgv drivers are angels though are they? As seen on this video
The difference is, Nigel, we’re professionals & need to act like it. Each one featured herein is not suitable for the job.
I've been riding motorbikes since 1983. Should all HGV drivers be made to ride a motorbike? I see idiots on bikes, in cars and driving HGVs.
My father did exactly that after passing my test 1962 in a Moggy Miner, within 3 months I was driving the construction projects 15 cwt Ford van and 3 ton Trader.
Rear wheel steer site dumper and split frame steering loaders. These had lighter steering than the Moggy.
Never ceases to amaze me to see the frequency of submissions where either the cammer was the cause or the object was doing no something reasonable or expected but the cammer feels it’s worthy of criticism.
I drove 8 Leggers for 20 odd years and they have a shite turning circle ⭕😮
3:30 Typical entitled cyclist, holds people up when they didn’t need to just to make a point. That’s the cycle equivalent of a brake check.
Lycra warriors are a fkn nightmare. Everyone is wrong but me attitude
@@andyw2150 What an insecure little man you are.
Yeah, funny how they whine like crazy if you go past them leaving less than 1.5m space - but will then try to squeeze past with about 3 inches to spare, even when traffic is moving. Entitled, arrogant pr!cks mostly.
one day he will meet someone who REALLY doesn't care and his reign will be over
@@andyw2150 what has their dress sense got to do with it? 🙄
The UK is probably one of the worst places to drive in if you're a lorry driver. The roads are just too narrow, and the fact that the route planners planning the journey dont even care to find the safest and easiest route possible just makes it even worse.
While working on new road building I asked a County civil engineer why lane aren't made wider at corners and bends, to allow truck drivers to stay within the road markings. Easily done when building roads as most have room to spare, his answer was mainly cost and that car drivers would squeeze another row of cars in.
Well how about building the lorries to suit UK roads!
I used to drive for a company that did seasonal contracts, the Autumn contract was delivering Christmas hampers to residential addresses in North Wales, night outs, the company said that 7 1/2 tonners with sleeper cabs were too expensive to hire so we got 17 tonners instead, what an absolute nightmare, every year negotiating tiny single track roads in the Welsh countryside, i completely ripped the front bumper off one truck trying to turn around after delivering to a house at a long winding dead end road.
@@davidriley2847 do you really think that??? what if the load wont fit on a small vehicle or do yoy expect 26T of bricks to be delivered one ton at a time by transit, grow up!
I always laugh at the name planner, it didn't go down very well when I told one he couldn't plan his way out of the toilet, we weren't exactly best mates.😂
Being an HGV driver is no fun these days. Too many other idiots on the roads to contend with.
Absolutely agree with you there. Glad I'm retired out of it now
@@stevedawson256 ended up that I let my CPC expire, just couldnt face it anymore. I did get my ADR though to do courier work and that was a good earner in all honesty but again, got fed up in the end of being on motorways all day, peak time in Birmingham, its depressing. I live up north and intend to stay up there. Hate travelling south. I knew a driver at some crap haulage firm I worked at years ago, told the boss he only wanted to go to Scotland on jobs.
idiots are not confined to cars - they can get HGV licences too! As we have seen , some ride bikes.
As a former transport manager I can appreciate the drivers difficulty. The real question is why on earth wasn't there a restriction on HGV's using such an unsuitable lane ?
Prolly was an “Unsuitable for HGVs” somewhere. That said, they were never making that bend so shouldn’t have even tried, once they knew. I guess no mirror check.
what if that lane was where the delivery was? do you expect 27 transit to deliver one ton at a time? Who says there wasnt a restriction but it still wouldnt stop it getting used
@@JL-rx6hl legally speaking you are correct, but that turn is just not possible in in more than a 7.5 tonner imho.
Ideally either an alternate route should have been planned or sought upon seeing the sign (if there is one), but that turn should have been taken far slower, and shunts added to try to get that trailer over more.
Thanks to a 20yard road closure in London I found myself cuffing it after 9pm (“London Lorry Ban” territory) and at one point got myself jammed in a box junction at traffic lights turning right, I was shunting for 5 mins much to the annoyance of local traffic and the ubiquitous 3 busses to get that trailer over or I’d have taken out a keep left bollard And a light pole. I guarantee that junction is covered by CCTV for box junction fines, & expected one, but because I was moving & managed to clear; nothing. Nor was there a TFL fine for being over the 16.5 Tonne weight limit overnight. (We have exemptions for the area, but not That way; I actually phoned the Met for a reference number for the incident just in case, once back at base.
Driver really messed up big there, so no excuses for them.
Is the lane unsuitable or is the C==T behind the wheel unsuitable for the job? is the question, The answer is ????????????????????????????????????
@@JL-rx6hl What a silly remark, Truck driver is stupid . If you want 27 tons and you live up there then expect to be using a wheelbarrow a lot. There also could have been another way to the customer.
Was the bike nonce at 3:20 Jeremy Slime?
At 5@18, the black car brake checked the lorry driver, there were no cars coming from the right and he put his foot on the brake. The insurance will probably blame the car driver and maybe the police should have been called.
Where do Highway Maintenance find their drivers? Failures from McLaren F1 training programmes? They are regularly the worst drivers I see on the M11. Middle Lane hogging, tailgating, speeding they do it all. Perhaps they think they are above the law because their truck has a few hi-vis stripes.
Tipper was a twin axle steer, they are notorious for being sluggish to turn, a lot of drag created by those two axles.
The twin steer on tippers is garbage, he wouldn't get that round in one, neither would you!
First clip - it's beginning to look alot like Christmas
@5:15 serves him right (Mercedes driver), there was nothing coming around the roundabout, no reason to stop other than being a knob.
They were both being knobs.
Doesn't matter, you shouldn't presume that other drivers are going to act in a logical manner especially if you're driving a large heavy vehicle and especially in the wet.
Only a couple of bad clips. Most of the others are down to poor judgement. People closing space to prevent a lane change are childish
Looks like the 1st dude got lucky as his 5th wheel snapped off ! 🙂
As a at C and cat D driver, i feel a lot for these chaps the idiocy seen on a daily basis is off the scale, most car drivers have never driven anything bigger than a car and don't fully comprehend the size and weight and space needed to manoeuvre these vehicles , they are completely oblivious, more education is needed at the test to bring an understanding that large vehicles cannot power their way out of situations especially at roundabouts / junctions . And remember, if you have it , it came on a lorry.
Stupid comment.
Sorry, but we’re the pros on the roads, we have to make allowances for the amateurs. No excuses for the bad trucking shown!
That said, what was the cyclist about??
'If you have it, it came on a lorry.' Oh that tired old cliche. Most things you need were brought to you in a car - nurses, doctors, shop assistants, accountants, mechanics, cleaners - we all get to work in cars mate.
As for your comment about car drivers not having driven anything bigger than a car, I understand there are bad car drivers out there who don't understand the difficulties of driving an HGV but that doesn't negate the responsibility of a truck driver. You're sharing the road with cars, vans, bikes and pedestrians. The roads don't belong to you, you just use them like everyone else.
@@Raggerty-j4c I have driven vehicles from the Mini upwards to an eight axle mobile crane, when car driving I do give trucks etc. a wide berth. Allow them onto roundabouts, pull out to overtake on hills as the seconds it cost me can be quickly made up. There has always been those who need to be first in line to the next traffic light, yet I've never seen one get a prize.
I took the Advanced Drivers Course and tips I got from the police driving instructor has made driving a pleasure. Also passengers do not have to stamp holes in the floor trying to find a foot brake on the passenger side.
Give your journeys a bit more time. Keep a bit more distance between vehicles. Show a bit of restraint and a bit more patience. If everyone did this the roads would be a safer and less stressful place to be.
Tipper not turning in a oner? You really don't have a clue do you!
8 wheelers have a terrible turning circle. At least he knew he wouldnt make it and had a shunt unlike most car drivers just keep going and use the path or verge as an extension of the road
6:14 just a tip to car drivers this car is sitting in the blue trucks blind spot. As a truck driver I ask you to please consider we can’t see you when you sit in this position. No hard feelings.
Just as a tip to other Cat C & CE drivers, those “blindspot” mirrors can be adjusted to eliminate your blindspots so a good check in them means you don’t hit sommat!
Been driving heavies a while now, my 1st had a knocker box.
A truck's blind spots are 100% the responsibility of the truck driver. I agree, other vehicles shouldn't linger in a truck's blind spot but it's up to the truck driver to constantly monitor them. If you're relying on car drivers to do it for you then you need to either re-train or find an alternative career.
car driver should have read the road and situation better and eased back behind the truck so the truck could pull across, truck driver should have been aware of him though
Jack Lynch tunnel in Cork, Ireland. car is completely wrong here, there are 2 lanes in this tunnel which come from 2 different dual carriagways, there is a solid white line through the tunnel until you get out the other end, trucks or any other vehicle for that matter need to merge into the left lane after the tunnel but stupid people in the left lane dont hold back and let people merge, instead they proceed to sit in blind spots and/or overtake on the inside which is illegal
Then something isn't right if you have such a large blind spot, most of these occasions happen because the truck travels too fast for the conditions and loads of truck drivers Bully car drivers,
I'd like to know how the recovery company managed to recover that trailer in the 1st clip, and how the lime was cleared..
4:11 I'm going to hazard a guess there was previous to that vid. This shows the trucker totally at fault but what happened before the first round about?
I hope the cammer gave the FULL video to the police.!
Definitely something going on previous. Usually it's something like a poor emerge, long horn from the truck, then car slows down to piss them off.
That tipper done well to get to that point before having to reverse. There was a RAB in Vradford i used to hate using but the drop off was just up that road a bit. I couldn't get round it in two tries and had to take the third bite to get up that road. it was a nightmare.....poor road planning at it's best
That first clip the family will be able to grow giant Brassicas from all that Lime! 🥦🥦🥦
A lady had that happen on the A48 but it was an artic trailer full of coal. Truck miss judged a stream running alongside the road and dropped the truck into it spilling the load. The lady's coal shed was full by next morning.
It doesn’t matter what way you look at the standard of driving is getting worse wether you are a elderly, professional truck,PCV, service, driving instructor or driving examiner, or just a car driver, the people mainly condone the elderly for bad driving I’m 82 years and have driving since I was 17 years old and I consider myself as a good and safe driver I have been a truck and coach driver since I was 21 I retired when I was 72.
The guy in the car had no need at all to stop and knew exactly what he was doing the road was clear and Lorries can't just stop like a car does it takes time, definitely an insurance job there
Road rage lorry with Merc. Obviously, like everyone else, but wondering whether Merc brake-checked the lorry as the lorry braked a couple of times. But in the end, should drive sensibly
Far too many drivers, both private and commercial, using their vehicle as an offensive weapon!
Imagine if we didn't have lorries 🤔
What is it with you holier than thou dashcam warriors. ooh look mummy he did a bad thing. Grow up
What the vast majority of these dashcam warriors don't realise is that when they send their footage through to the police, one of the first things that the police will do is to examen what the dashcam warrior was actually doing!
There have been countless occasions when the police have actually prosecuted the dashcam warrior because the police have deemed that THEIR standard of driving was actually dangerous and illegal!
There's a kind of a hilarious and poetic justice to that!
What is it they say about people in glass houses? 🤔😂😂
The standard of driving in the U.K., is appalling, with many long term drivers driving like they are 5year olds. It’s the easiest test in the world to pass, and once passed a lot of drivers, choose to ignore everything they were taught and drive like a muppet. That’s why the police need to be informed on each and every occasion .
@@robthomas2216 You're on the autism spectrum I guess.
They don't call them lorry drivers anymore, they're licence holders.
Merc & Artic, don’t know what had gone on earlier but there was no need for the Merc to stop at the roundabout which was completely clear from the right. Stupid brake check!!
4:01, we Dutch also pass vehicles between the pavement and vehicles. It is normal. But if you are allowed to bike on the bus lane, then do that and do not block other traffic. If he was not allowed to do so, then it was okay.
You can see the buslane ends pretty quick, so honestly it probably wasn't worth it as he wasn't turning left further ahead.
Just the typical road toxicity, biker would be the type of person to brake check people. Bikes are considered traffic here in the UK too by the way, cars got to treat them like another car, as our high way code hints.
Bikes don't yield to the left unless they want to be overtaken, that's pretty much the general rule, but they have to treat lanes the same way, so if there's an arrow turning left, the biker cannot go forward. But people ignore the rules because they're bikers which is so frustrating to see.
@@JonathanDavidsonn ofcourse they are traffic. Pedestrians are traffic. Person in a wheelchair in the street is traffic. Maybe you mean driver. Yes, they are drivers. Person on a horse is a driver, person on a moped is a driver. Thus the cyclist is allowed to drive in front of that vehicle. I think, as a Dutch and used to cyclists ( we all are a cyclist here) that he did nothing wrong. But we learn to keep to the side of the road. So, he did okay. They better make a protected cycle path there and thus take away a car lane.
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@@gerhard6105 Yeah I'm not disagreeing it's more so our country's main division in mentality lately I wanted to specifically highlight, they don't think of cyclists as another road user, more like an annoying pedestrian.
But yeah I hope the biker did go straight forward on that junction further ahead otherwise they're an even worse knob.
Absolutely love the cycling infrastructure in your country. I mostly cycle using trails rather than using roads because of uncaring drivers :')
What irks me is that the cyclist slowed significantly and appears to taunt the trucker!
...too bad that other doad users don't understand that HGV vehicles need more room and are slower and it is hard to see even thou u got at least 6 mirrors. Hat off for u tarmac heroes! 👍
Well done bus for blocking the junction😡
If you allowed an 8 wheel tipper to have the ability to turn tighter it would fall over , that's why they turn like a barge.
I've been driving hgv class 1 for 25 years. Some of the worst drivers are lorries drivers
I've been driving class one for 42 years, and I agree with you.. the standard of lorry driving by some (not all) lorry drivers these days is abysmal. I'm glad I'm well retired out of it now . Was a good crack once ,
could not turn in one its a daf
Don’t Brake Check Trucks Unless You Want Your Vehicle Fucked Up SIMPLE …
Only today I had a lorry 2yards from my rear bumper in 50mph traffic on M1 North bound,I was on the inside lane as was exiting at next junction,I was keeping up with traffic so wasn't slowing him down,I eventually wound my window down and gave him 2 fingers,to which he then decided to overtake!TWAT!
@@stevennazar2102 my mode of transportation is a wheelchair or mobility scooter , to slow for the road , to fast for the path . The main road through the village is a 7.5 ton weight limit and yet cars vans bikers or truckers use to road - 44 tons - even past the police who do nothing . I was attacked and the police do nothing - I have not been out side now in 12 months . No body cares , nobody helps . The police are just to busy - last month a school girl was knock down and killed on a crossing the truck driver got 18 years ( suspended ) for 20 years . There’s just No justice in the world - I live in England . I’m now to scared to go out - 1 year ago I last went out . I hear you …
@@doozerakapuckfutinPeople do care, but maybe they don't know how you are feeling inside.
If your going that slow that a 20 to 40 tonne lorry can overtake you your probably the problem.
Lorry drivers in South Wales remove their rear number plates so that they can speed through the 50mph sections and use lane 3 to overtake. Zero police presence means zero chance of getting caught.
That's an old trick used when I was a kid, another is two or more on the same reg. They work for a while and then the cops get them, along with the chain hanging down over the plate, black electric tape turning a 5 to 6 etc.
Up on the NW Coast they will be caught in double quick time, near the police college.
@@TheByard I worked for a company had a new unit with 295 on front and 259 on the back, wasn't noticed till it went for MOT.
The driver who said typically tipper driver of the opus truck should see that it was a grab lorry no a tipper
It's a tipper fitted with a grab
Clearly you haven't watched Ashville videos
0:57 no he couldn't do that in one. Tippers steer like shit, good at speed but manoeuvring they're terrible, I found that DAFs are the worst but MANs and Scania's are much better but still wouldn't have made that in one.
Ha ha, daf are pretty good compared to the scammel routeman and Leyland octopus 8 wheelers I started off on
Can't blame the driver, it's down to Toy Town UK roads and the planners.
5:00 ok so the HGV Driver should have his license revoked, don't give me all this BS about not tangling with a lorry, the lorry was 100% at fault from the off! He was in the wrong lane and driving like a pr1ck following the mercedes
I hope that the artic driver in the first clip wasn’t using a car sat nav as no way should that road have been on a planned route for,such a long vehicle.
Don’t know why the cyclist posted his Jewson clip, he was breaking all sorts of highway rules and riding dangerously.
The HGV at 4’30” was just completely illegal all the way round!
By the way, somebody ought to proof read their subtitles for spelling, grammar and syntax!
You have never driven an eight wheeler have you?
Did you mean “Bad ending to road rage”??
The wagon at the island had no choice they are not small vehicles and I have had to do the same some people have no idea how crap the turning circle is on a wagon
There are signs a mile up the road for the next junction why prat’s have to cut across at the last second is beyond me as is lane hogging
Nothing wrong with the second one. What’s the whining about? Some roundabouts are simply too small for lorries.
At 3:46, first you drove on his left side even though everywhere he has to give you six feet of space. Then you became one of those goons on a bike that just wanted to hold him up rather than ride in the bus lane, it is no wonder that drivers have low opinions of cyclists.
90% of lorry drives are idiots
7:12. A BU70URK in a Merc!
how do these people get a driving licence.
4:14 that lorry was the one in the wrong there, he was in the wrong lane to start with, don't know if the merc had somehow p*ssed him off, but either way, at that point it was 100% the lorry.
The driving standards over the last 25 years, I’ve gone to shit, too many foreigners using dodgy licenses in this country now
Why blame foreign drivers? almost all those clips were UK registrations indication probable UK drivers, blame where its due not where your bias points it
@@davedixon2068 A lot of drivers on tippers and White vans deliveries or eastern Europeans, that’s all I’m saying
@@michaelrussell4254 precisely
All things considered, in my experience truck drivers aren't generally bad but where they do seem to lose their shit is through roadworks on motorways with average speed cameras. They just go into moronic tailgating mode. I'd have cops in unmarked cars constantly patrolling motorway roadworks and any trucker using his truck as a weapon to intimidate should lose his licence immediately.
It's said the section of the road widening works on the M1 near Dunstable made more money off the average speed cameras than the cost of the widening works.
@@TheByard I can believe that but what has that got to do with tailgating?
@@Raggerty-j4c A lot of tailgating is to stop others cutting in. I know it's not right to tailgate but try leaving the correct thinking, braking gap and I bet up will have to slow up and make it again.
@@TheByard So you believe deliberately giving yourself no braking distance by tailgating is the best way to defend your braking distance? That's the most bizarre reply I've ever read.
Was it a German car?
Think we all know the biggest knob in this video the Cyclist picking fights with Class 2s.. Smart guy..
Darwin Award on wheels before too long
spilt? they mean 'spilled'
Foreign lorry drivers making friends with the locals again?
I'm a HGV driver and i work nights and we usually take liberty with traffic rules just out of the sheer fact there's fuxk all nobody around.
Hopefully you'll be caught and banned.
Where was the overturned lorry did I miss it
first clip?? that big red thing that came around a tight corner and fell over was the lorry that couldnt
1:00 no he could not. Some of them have very big turning circle not just like a litlle car
Tippier drivers bad drivers always speeding very dangerous
Like most things these days a few days training and they get the ticket just like plumbers electricians and so on even doctors get a quick pass i.e. less than 5 years ???? When you dont give experiance the respect it deserves this is what happens. Most lorry drivers frighten the shit out of me these days some simply dont have a friggin clue or they go into macho man mode and by god when that happens all hell breaks lose !!!!!!!!
I might have "subscribed" but for the crappy captions.
00:46 "Could he have done this better?"
Yes. He could have obeyed rule 188 of the Highway Code: "Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts."
But he needed to be going the other way, so would it have been better for him to do a sixteen point turn in the middle of the road, it only says "avoid" not "don't" stop being so holier than thou.
HC also says watch out for others doing so. Meaning Its not best practice but it's allowed if necessary.
Dashcam footage is now "Professional raw footage"............LOLZ
After watching the tipper overturning serval times he could have made it if he did it slow...taken the lane straight ahead aiming for the first black pole and may have had to reverse and jack knife to point of cab mirror nearly touching trailer been in a few situations like this myself..or the other thing ring transport manager explaining problem .
Quite a few truck-wits in this video. Seems none of them should hold a CDL.
Nice .
5:41 What a legend. Hahaha 😆 😂 😆
So you admit to taking liberties at night and you think that maniac is funny. I really hope you're banned sooner than later pal.
6:20 you were in his blind spot mate should of stayed back he should of made the change but you should of stayed back
You should get paid to test bumpers with cyclists 😉
most are innocuous
Interesting how Dashflix reserves their criticism for cyclists ratherthan drivers! Must pander to his main audience I suppose...
not really a true statement, if the cyclist is a pratt then he is a pratt and deserves calling out, applies equally to car and HGV drivers and with some exceptions he's not too unfair, a bit nit picky sometimes maybe
@@davedixon2068 I have no issue with bad cycling being called out, it's more the selection of clips by DF.
Also , why are lorries driving at 60mph in a 50mph these days ……?
The time clock, rest breaks, timed delivery's, road delays. To name just four.
They're not, they're limited to 56 by law
As a retired HGV driver I wondered how so many were doing 60 on a level road, then found out my speedo isn't accurate, it reads nearly 10% fast.
If you think you could better, have a try!
I feel I have to mention here, the vast majority of lorry drivers in the UK are at the top of their profession. Professional, hard-working, excellent drivers. I've had my life saved, as a biker, more times than I can count by a truck driver, and half the issues that arrive are because of other drivers not understanding how a lorry works, where it needs to be placed to get round a corner, and generally being a jerk
'I've had my life saved, as a biker, more times than I can count by a truck driver.' Really? I've been riding motorbikes since 1983 and my life has never been saved by a truck driver. I shudder to think how you ride if you're so reliant on truckers to save your life.
@@Raggerty-j4c I've been riding for 40 years, all over the world, mostly as a civilian, so it's exposure to a million miles of road, not a "reliance", I never said I relied on truckers. Most of the time lorries are big things to move past. However, I've ridden enough to come across the situation where a lorry has warned me of a cager cunt coming up on the inside, or had a lorry wave me back when I was overtaking to warn me of something in the road that HE can see, but I can't yet. Your arrogance and ignorance are disappointing to see,
@@Raggerty-j4cwhy query someones comment. Do you know them and were you there. Maybe you were just lucky.
@@stevedawson256 Oh ffs
@@Raggerty-j4c yeah ffs valid point, just cos its not you doesn't mean its invalid information, if you think back you might just recognise a couple of instances yourself
More professional clowns behind the wheels of HGVs
Why moan about a trucker in front of the police no point so what your stuck behind him many people in life are worse off than stuck behind a truck people with cancer and disability’s n stuff and your moaning didn’t even need to be on this stupid clip
2:06 You were in the wrong lane too. That's a spiral roundabout. Lanes are clearly marked and you are supposed to get in the correct lane as you enter then simply follow the spiral out wards to your exit. If you have to change lanes inwards, you fucked up.
Other way round.
Not really that unbelievable though are they !!
5:16 was about to blame the lorry driver until I saw there was no oncoming traffic
What a bellend from the merc
First clip…………🤣
Bad ended? Great use of English
Some really outstanding professional lorry driving, NOT.
5:16, lorry driver must behave with a big truck with maybe a big load worth loads of money and with a truck worth loads of many. He must drive defensive and not let him get mad to get involved/ play the games. Very unprofessional. What ever the Mercedes driver does.
insurance scam
@@davedixon2068 could be.
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That first clip... fuckin div
3:55 I think that is unfair to use rude language to describe this cyclists actions. Had the cyclist moved into the bus lane, you can almost guarantee the Jewson lorry driver would have left hooked them turning into that side road. The road position was defensive cycling.
Found the lycra clad bellend. Get out of the way if you can't cycle fast. You look like a nonce in lycra.
Nah he was being an ar*se winding the trucker up.
4:00 his instant rage holds him up. the bike would have been away faster than you, then you would have been stopped by the bike already ahead in the bus lane.
screaming at people for costing you 0 seconds, usually means they will treat you like a twat. if you are screaming at someone, you know they are there so there isnt that excuse ppl will no doubt give
No twat on bicycle was causing it all for his cam. But all is not lost i know know that driver and when go see him weekend i will see his dash cam as it's on his one and twat on bike is along there often so me and another buddy will be out on our bikes and give him a friendly track style shoulder hook up into a stationary object.
Had one a few years back giving me yap when i asked where his lights was and front brake! started getting lippy he didn't need brakes etc as fixed wheel etc etc then i showed why need brakes as shoulder hooked him and he was last seen flying through back window of a car!. Act like a Cnut get treated like one.Simple.
From my experience, lorry drivers are very probably the worst 'drivers' on the road, followed closely by taxi drivers. They just don't seem to give a dam. Sadly, the majority seem to spoil it for the good few.
Although I haven’t encountered many bad lorry drivers in my time, I have seen untold amounts of bad taxi drivers. They’re much worse than Uber drivers, in my opinion.
BMW and Audi drivers are by far the worst.
The consequences of lorry drivers getting it wrong is often catastrophic
They have to be better than everyone else and I reckon they usually are
But when they are bad it really shows