Lorry takes out 15 cars & injures 1 man outside Stonebridge Park train station. Lucky escape.
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- 12/05/23. Lucky escape. Lorry takes out 15 cars, injuring 1 man, outside Stonebridge Park train station, London. #accidenttruck #carcrash #crash #lorry
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love the way every ones filming and nobody appears to be actually speaking to the police.....
I think everyone was in a state of shock. We couldn't believe what we just witnessed. Within 5-6 minutes, the police were called.
Get the evidence first so no one can say this didn't happen, also no one was hurt just shocked,then get the police, also the evidence could be used to claim against the firm alleys truck driver, or the firm,
Glad no one was hurt in this!
@@wildadventurers9067 utterly unacceptable, tis is whats wrong with people now, your absolute first response should have been to call the police rater than video it, how did you know the lorry driver wasnt slumped over in the cab, your a disgrace
it goes on all the time it is more important to film somebody could have been dying
Its London no one there speaks to Police anyway.
Love how no one has even checked into the cab by using the steps to see if the lorry driver simply hasnt collapsed at the wheel and slumped down out of view
People did check inside the cab. No-one was present.
who the idiot talkin
It was Airbag / handbrake failure I know 1 of the recovery drivers that recovered the lorry, moving the train somehow damaged 1 of the Airbags and when the driver went to get his paperwork signed he looked out the window and just saw his truck take off and the injured person was the truck driver running after it trying to stop it luckily he hit the side of the truck and didn't land underneath it. The story was also in the paper.
I`m a hgv driver.The brakes work on air=the air releases the brakes so if the system fails the brakes are locked on.From what you said it sounds like the driver may have forgotten to apply the handbrake when he got out of the cab.Whatever the cause,like the van driver said,luckily nobody was badly injured or worse.
Brutal truth ,
ahem ,
someone forgot to apply the hand brake !!!
@@sparsh415 True it can be air brake. If rans out it'll automatic locked on the wheels likes you've mentioned as Truck is designed that way for safety if not got any air pressures. Bet that why you runs The truck for good 30 minute upto 1 hour before travel ? Not to warm up the engine but to rebuild the airs pressure. In this video it is most likely the driver forgotten to applied the handbrake. So to me might have left engine on and forgotten the handbrake. No air it'll locked on altogether 🤷♂
@@hawky2k215 Hello,you do have to build the air pressure up but it only takes about 5 mins. First thing in the morning we`re required to show 15 mins of vehicle checks on our tacho cards by law. The usual routine is=Digi card in,fire up the engine,walk around checks,check load,paperwork etc. Usually,after 15 mins,your on the road and earning the company money. I think you could well be right about this incident being driver error but it wont take them long to work out what`s happened.
@@sparsh415 Everything you've said is correct on what you do. If the truck got no air pressure at all it'll locked on the wheel anyway unless engine were left running too
One of the Best Heavy Haulage companies in the UK hauling Locomotives all over the the British Countryside, Sadly accidents do happen, Hope the Driver of the MAN TGA is OK.
Pay peanuts get monkeys......
@@nickaxe771obviously your not aware of the Salary Class 1 HGV Drivers are being paid these days………. Might want to do abit of research before you comment. 🚛🫵🍆
@@nickaxe771 60k peanuts how much are you earning?
@@traffordmedia Retired now after 40 years as a class one driver....so glad I am away from the nonsense we see from truck drivers daily....all very very sad.
Allelys are a respected haulage firm who specialize in moving unusual loads. I hope no one was hurt.
not sure they will be so respected after this shambles,
Obviously a mechanical error ......
@@matthewc.419 have you done a mechanical assessment?.. please show us your findings?
@@stewartlancaster6155 they are still highly respected now even, they moved a locomotive to kidderminster fairly recently
@@matthewc.419 Correct . The nut at the wheel .
I did tell my wife that lorry driving wasn't for her.
Mee too. 🤣🤣🤣
Plot twist: the guy filming is the lorry driver!
Lol 🫣
😂😂😂😂
Bet they don't show that on 'Train Truckers'. Oops.
P yeah or mention that their driver left the scene of an accident
@@timothygreen4997it was truck that left the scene not the driver. It's rolled with no one in the cab.
I used to work for Morris Allely 20 yrs ago, great company with top class kit, good enough to haul the rarest locomotives on earth inc the Flying Scotsman
With load a combined weight of around 70 tons and then brake failure, goodnight Marie. I had a brake failure with a loaded Antar on the German A1 many moons ago. Luckily our convoy had escorts and no one or anything was damaged other than my undies. I had a combined weight of 120 tons.
Lol at "other than my undies"
I`m hgv,was your brake failure down to brake fade though ???
@@sparsh415 no. The pipe to the servo blew and dumped the air, locked the shoes and burnt the linings ergo no brakes on the tractor. Remember these were late forties vehicles not modern day scannis or mercs.
Obviously brake failure or the driver had an episode. Allely's are a professional and highly respected company, I've never seen anything like this from them before
the truck must of been traveling to fast for its load
not sure they will be seen as professional and respected after this carnage.
@@torquetheprisoner without a driver, are you serious???
@@lonerenegade7582 the driver was in it but he buggerd off
@@torquetheprisoner - with the weight of the tractor unit, the trailer & the load it could have cause that sort of damage at less than walking pace.
Rather ironic that it is carrying a London Underground battery loco on the trailer. The loco is fitted with wheels to run on rails, so, assuming that it was disabled, if it had to be somewhere else, it could have been towed. If an axle had seized, a "skate" would have permitted movement. I admit that I do not know all the facts here, but too often rail vehicles are moved by road for cheapness- well it hasn't been so cheap in this instance.
Having said that, however, I must point out that Allelys transport are a well respected firm with plenty of experience in this sort of move. This incident surprises me as I have seen quite a few videos of similar work by them and they have shown tremendous skill.
I agree. They do have a great reputation. I think this was just an extremely unfortunate event. 🤷
I reckon the driver left the handbrake off by accident. Easily done.
The modern railway where they can't move rolling stock on rail!
That's one way to move illegal parked cars
Next time they might pay for a carpark instead of road parking 😂
they’ve done well to hide this, this is the only thing i’ve seen about the whole incident. can’t find anything through the usual searches
Should have showed the sign just off the round about that states that it’s private property and that all cars are left at owners risk. Good luck getting an insurance payout 😂
Liability would fall on
driver/haulage company and not land owners so legality of signs is irrelevant.
Thats just for the landowners benefit, the haulage company will have its own insurance
Doesn't work like that
The signs displayed indicate that parking is for authorised vehicles only.
Ah no. The horror the driver must've felt when they turned back up to see their lorry all the way down the road, and the carnage thats just been caused 🫣
And the horror that he will probably never be allowed to drive a lorry again. 🥺
@@wildadventurers9067 Possible mechanical failure?
@@wildadventurers9067 I`m hgv =He`ll probably get his p45 and maybe points(not sure) but I dont think he`d be banned for life. Even after a nightmare like this he`d easily get another job. The driver who assessed/trained me for BQ took out 6 cars(£50,000 damage) when he worked for Travis perkins. He hadn`t locked away the lorry crane stabiliser properly,it shot out and he was pulling the cars down the road with him.
@@wildadventurers9067 it was proven that it was a brake failure, I'm not sure if he'll be fired or not
I Don't Live Far From There, I Remember Seeing That While Flying My Friends Drone, We Thought It Was Just Stuck Until We Saw The Wrecked Cars
Accidents happen , that’s life ,!!!
Hope the driver was ok 👍
the truck driver probably came out of the cafe and thought "fucking hell"
Air pressure in truck brakes works two ways; it applies the service brakes and releases the parking brakes but there's a limit to the spring force in a parking brake even in an STGO 2 category vehicle and the video plainly shows both the STGO placard and the abnormal load.
My guess is whatever the true cause of the failure, they'll blame the driver for not additionally using wheel chocks.
Bet they won't show that on Train Truckers Reality TV show
The load is a battery powered vehicle from the London underground
the only thing the police would be interested in is trying to prove the lorry was doing over 30mph.
Unusual for an Allelys lorry to have a crunch as they are pretty pro bunch of loco movers, on back is one of LT's battery loco's a rare sight even on the tracks nicknamed "Notre Dame" cos you ended up a hunchback if you were over 5 ft tall lol
This would not have happened if a heritage locomotive was on the back like the flying scotsman or a Deltic as this was a low value locomotive of no historic value.
Imagine what a train could do on its own let alone a truck carrying a train.
I think recently what happened in India, is a good example. 👍
🙀 HS2...
In olden days we where taught to turn your wheels when parking for this very reason. Especially when pulling heavy loads. Aim it for anything close where it would stop against or just so it turns and not just straight on down a hill. I always do, because you can't trust anything mechanical.
That makes alot of sense. 👍
Leave in gear as well but you can't if it's an auto.
trouble is also truck has an electric hand brake they fail often
@aswclassics iow I didn't know that. 👍
@@aswclassicsiow8588 truck is too old for an e hand break, I’m a class 1 license holder & drive MAN trucks. Truck would need to be 21 plate or newer.. at a glance I’d hazard a guess at the year being between 17-19 plate, possibly a 20 plate.
That's crazy! Hope no one was hurt!
just our ears from the commentary... lol
Why do people exaggerate so much ? Nobody was injured so get over it.
There was 1 minor injury mate. Whiplash,sprained wrists and minor cuts from the African man jumping out of the car in the middle.
ironic name to company, will that be bowling?
@@johndejure9849 that's a good one. 👍
That has to be the craziest thing I've seen on the road and I thought I've seen it all
If I’d watched the TV show Trucking Heavy, I would know who drives that, as their base is in studley.
All very well saying cars are insured but the payout in lots of cases will not replace the car that has been lost , who will pay the difference?
Looks like a runaway. Alleleys drivers very experianced. Heavy haulage experts
The liquid is most probably antifreeze. Or water
Option one is he forgot the handbrake.
Option two is he forgot the handbrake but the air was low so as soon as it built back up, it released the brakes.
Option three is the same as option two except he mistook a brake warning light for the 'handbrake on' light.
Option four is that the entire braking system failed.
Me personally, the first thing I do instinctively is engage the handbrake. I usually double check before I leave the cab.
TfL trying to stop people driving cars again
Looking at the MOT history site (you can check trucks too for their version of the MOT, an "annual inspection"), and this MAN TGX has an outstanding recall. I wonder if it's to do with the braking system?
Guy was out of the cab, left engine running to get pressure, but forgot to engage park brake (SO I HAVE BEEN TOLD)
Makes sense. 👍
Told wrong, driver wasn't there
Makes sense , lucky lucky boy not to have killed no one , potential 80 ton runaway .
@@ericharrison57 driver doesn’t have to be
@@WarwickshireTransportalleged driver, rang in, not well,
No one bothered to check that the driver wasn't slumped down in the cab after taking ill or something.
Found one unconscious in the passenger footwell once, rolled over...got him out by making a hole in the windscreen!
P.S; In these days of Pfizer/Moderna/AZ,it wouldn't surprise me...the Ian Hutchinson (TT Races) documentary was on last night,just look what it did to him...survived motorcycle racing, the jab nearly ended him,if it weren't for Jason O'Halloran who was cycling with him in Spain!
I would have shit myself seeing that heading towards me pushing a pile of cars.
I think I did mate. 🤣🤣🤣
@@wildadventurers9067 😂
That leaking is the driver pissing his self with 😂😂😂
Mechanical failure,, its a machine.. carrying over 100 tonnes.. I can sometimes happen....
All the hype about driverless vehicles - it could have been a driverless lorry. But seriously, I wonder if the driver forgot to put the parking brake on. There's no way of stopping that weight and size easily.
I totally agree mate. 👍
If you open the door on a HGV without the handbrake on you get a loud alarm.
@@neilsa9292 The door was locked. I checked both sides. 🤷
@@wildadventurers9067 The alarm doesn't stop the driver getting out and locking the doors it just warns him
@@neilsa9292if it was building air pressure as suggested it would be buzzing anyway.
Alleley's usually have two people in the cab plus an escort vehicle. No sign of them. I wonder whether they'll show that in the next series of 'Train Truckers'!
Probably not. Lol
Greggs
It's not T reg, it's a private plate the clue is the AHH, A llelys H eavy H aulage.
Looks like Allelys haulage company got a big insurance bill coming .
Petrol 🤣🤣🤣 it's a diesel truck for a start.
My bad. 🤣
yeah, petrol big trucks haven't been made since like the 1940s. and even Diesel ones only do 8 miles per gallon or so, and these heavy haulage ones likely do even less.
but to be fair, Diesel fuel is still petroleum-based, it's just called "Diesel" after the _compression ignition_ engine invented by Rudolf Diesel that it's intended to fuel.
@@wildadventurers9067 Not really,you weren`t sure and did the sensible thing and told him to get out of a dangerous are.He had a mobile phone in his hand which has the potential to ignite fuel+ the truck could have started moving again.If it was yourself who filmed this I think you responded really well to the situation. 🙂
@@westfieldracer Yep,he defo did the right thing telling him to get clear of the area.
fits like a glove haha 🤣🤣
Good to see the accident investigation team doing there job😂😂
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Initial assessment: Ah, it's a write-off, man!
Driver was well stressed that poor guy that was in the car bet he thought his time was up.
How sad. I am a fan of heavy haulage and watch this actual firm, Allelys, on their TH-cam channel. I hope no one was hurt. I would doubt it, because of the speed the truck would be travelling at. Nevertheless, it must have been terrifying for all concerned!
Unbelievable.
Is there any information about how it happened ?
Did you get a picture of the drivers face when he came back to find his truck like this?
Unfortunately I couldn't. The police were dealing with him.
The Only one way that this could happen is for the parking brakes to be left off.
Not really.
@@6chhelipilot explain more please
@@6chhelipilot absolutely, how else could a low loader roll away on its own, I drove low loaders for many years and this could not have happened if the parking brake was applied properly .
Yep, handbrake off and full air pressure in the tanks to hold the brakes off.
Just so people understand, the air in a truck brake system holds the brakes off, releasing that air will apply the brakes, its fail safe, if you lose the air from the tanks or a brake line breaks the brakes will automatically be applied. You can have brakes fail if you use your brakes heavily and constantly such as going down a steep incline ,the brakes will overheat and you will get brake fade.
The things that Mayor Khan does to get cars off the roads in London !
That african is gonna have a claim up he is rubbing his hands together
Damn wish my car was there, could do with a new one.
The insurance would underpay
At 3:14 it says on the fence"No unauthorised parking"
Lot to be said for Leaving a Heavy Haulage truck in Reverse along with application of H/Brake when facing down hill , or 1st when facing up hill , if leaving for a long period drain Air Tanks All Brakes lock on,,. then accidents like this don't happen.
You can't actually leave a truck in reverse gear because of the way the auto box works.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 Sorry in my day they were manual
If you drain tanks brakes don't lock on they release it's only when any air is in tanks ie some pressure in lines then brakes lock on till full air pressure is up ie buzzer not going mental! then they release.
@@buckrogers2828 i suggest you try out what your stating, PARK ON STEEP HILL with h/brake on and box in Park Drain AIR Tank of ALL AIR, select Nuetral & release Hand brake, DID IT ROLL AWAY. ????
good find 🙂
Damn, Could be faulty parking brake failed or driver simply forgot to put on the parking brake either way looks like someone is seeing the traffic commissioner oops.
Yeah mate it was the fence that stopped it... LITERALLY, LITERALLY...
As long as no one was injured happy days. Cars you can replace.
And here we are thinking this only happens in Durban, SA. Often ...
Bloke climbs from the smashed up car.
Guy filming - “were you in the car”?
😂😂😂
I thought he may of been caught up in the middle. 🤣🤣🤣
a case for Colombo ..maybe?
I think he pulled out on the lorry without looking 😂😂
the truck will have a dash cam but if something had failed it might not have captured it! Should be on the next series of train truckers...
Black man did it , he jumped back into his own car to claim whiplash compensation
Did the driver run away or what….. also big transporting trucks like these have a escort vehicle ahead of them… not getting the full story in this video….. 😬🤔
Parking brake failed. The lorry was at the top of the hill.
What was the loco number? At least it is undamaged
Not seen anyone check the truck cab!
Mate, I checked the cabin, no-one was inside.
I've been googling, there is literally no news about this accident.
Looks like someone is trying to keep it hush hush. 🤫
I guess they are all stood there filming waiting for someone to report it 🤦♂️
they want to keep it underground...
If you think that fence is strong enough to stop a 44ton plus lorry, you are hugely mistaken. Most of been a fault with the truck. You can’t get out the cab with the engine off and hand brake NOT on without it giving you an audible tone
44 Tonne?? This is a heavy haul unit - the loco on the trailer alone is much more than 44..all up gross weight of well over 100 Tonne
@@garethifan1034 yup. Hence why I said 44ton plus because that’s going to be the minimum weight 😜
He`d left the engine on to build up air pressure according to another comment. When I drove for B and Q another hi-ab driver up North left his crane vertical and drove up the Motorway and hit a Gantry ripping off the crane. My manageress asked me if you`d be able to tell. I went yeah defo was he drugged tested cos an alarm would have been going in the cab(which you can sometimes switch off),the truck would have handled like shit and other road users would have been sounding their horns etc but he still did it.
The truck is running at STGO Cat2 which means that its Gross weight can't exceed 80000kg so 80 tonnes.
so what actually happened did the brakes fail or was the park brake off
No brakes were applied.
Driver definitely getting his dcbt. ( dont come back tomorrow) lol. P45 in the post.
Bloody Nora what the heck , every body car insurance going Thu the roof . Regards mark
This firm has a television show with them moving trains
Train Truckers
"is there anybody in there?"
Is this in the uk??
Yes. London- England.
No. It's in Japan.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 It's in wembley- London. The train station is stonebridge Park.
@@wildadventurers9067 Japan was sarcasm lol
its really shocking 🤔
If the air pressure dropped then there is no way the truck could have rolled. I think the driver forgot to apply the park brake.
Totally agree anyone can make a mistake,I’ve worked on these type of vehicles for over 50years and over that time vehicle brakes have got better and better,if the parking brake had been properly applied there’s NO way on the planet I know of it rolling away down that hill on its own,if an air pipe had burst the spring brakes would have automatically applied themselves as soon as the air pressure dropped,if there is an answer to this I would love to know about it,someone has already said it could have been the air bag being damaged but everything is piped independently to stop things like this happening.
No such thing as 'accidents'
holy crap
Looks like a few dollars worth of damage there and no doubt a bruised truckies ego! But obviously some sort of accident and I sort of feel sorry for the poor bastard!
Its terrible. That companies not buying everyone a new car, they will have to go through their insurance. A lot of those look older stuff, probably agency rail workers parked up, looking at the orange jacket on the dash in the mini. My point is, those cars will be owned, not on finance or leased, you get peanuts from your insurance. If someone smashes my 07 plate Fiesta up, what do you think they give me? I'm off the road and that's it 👍
I agree mate. 👍
it was private property and warnings saying cars parked at owners risk
@@davegilson5796 WAWAW
No one will get any money off insurance company as their is a sign their drivers park their at their own risk
@@andrewthornhill4229 it's the same everywhere you go, supermarkets, retail parks, BnQ, builders merchant, garden centre, Harrolds lock Smith, any business car park, football stadium, gym, anywhere. If I'm parked at the side of the road and someone goes down the side of my 16 year old Fiesta, I wouldn't even ring the insurance, I'd have to repair it myself. They would write my car off with a dented wing.
I had a flat tyre in York, picked a screw up in Holgate Depots yard, I just got the car into Kwik fit as it went completely down, lad put it on the ramps, forgot to put blocks under to clear the plastic sills, broke them, not the clips, the actual sills. I took it to John Bee body shop, yes Richard, new cills, painting, fitting, £650 and that was 2019. I just glued them back on tight.
That's why I drive a banger. I'll only pay 4 to 5 k for a car and I always keep enough money in the bank to replace it, if I have to 👍
TV crew missed that one always watch the trucking progs sure a weird incident where's the people when they move the trains always loads of folk that's a strange case lucky no one killed
all those cars parked up next to a truck I thought they were all dogging
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What a story to tell your grand kids, the cars were in the way so I smashed them up 😂😂
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Bet they had cones out to stop people parking there but as usual people move them to park. You are warned not to park in places where they place cones most likely mechanical failure and incompetent car drivers moving the cones
No one attempted to open the door on the truck driver may have passed out it's my assumption parking brake was not engaged these things happen
People did try to open the lorry doors. They were both locked.
@@wildadventurers9067 didn't know that cheers mate
Hello? Mr George , how much you pay for the driver ?
£20!
No no you pay too much, hes not a good operator !
Parking brake!😮
Insurance claim must have been a few quid, respectful company alleys aswel.but mechanical failure can't be avoided, act of God I think it comes under with insurance company.
I doubt an highly experienced firm with equipment as good as that would of made a mistake, something fucked up, I highly doubt it’s the driver but who knows, mistakes do happen but rare at that level
Professional company something must have gone wrong with lorry for this to happen
Apparently, the driver went off for lunch.
The driver forgot to put the handbrake on obviously, then after some time the truck started moving probably. 😢
@@manuegavave2043 but the engine was on. 🧐
@@wildadventurers9067 apparently he immobilized the truck but not in a handbrake and probably went out to do or to buy something
or the driver has fuc#ed up. It happens in our industry unfortunately.
He’s lucky there’s close to 100 tonne I recon an trucks are diesel diesel tanks are at the back of the cab the hand break was probably left off
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On this weeks train and trucks
What country is this in ? Jus askin
England
Hope everyone is ok? That’s the main thing.
Hope the driver is ok too.
Realy unusual for such experienced driver to make this mistake.????
Feel sorry 4 the truck driver me
Obvoiusly............the air brakes come unstuck !!!!
Wrong
Boss , Boss , we have a problem