Great video. My CF sleeve was slightly oversized at one spot and required that I painstakingly sand it to size. Only took about 15 min and the install was complete. Appreciate the clear and concise instructions, it made things easier.
What would be nice is to show the accuracy before the carbon fibre sleeve install, and again after the install. We could then see if it makes any difference.
For simplicity sake when I installed my carbon fiber sleeve I didn't even have to take the Barrel housing Out I just Unscrewed the shroud and pulled the liner out and then put the liner in the Carbon fiber sleeve and then put everything back together. It makes for a much quicker installation
There is a thick silicone grease much like dielectric grease , it would not damage the barrel or the carbon fiber , it might be another way to dampen the harmonics without gluing . It’s something I will look into when I receive the carbon liner from Airguns of Utah .
Would be interesting to compare groups with and without this liner, might not make any difference at all....But I guess we will only know that once we spend the money and test for ourselves....
You may find the new adjustable damper will fix much of the issues , the sleeve helps stiffen the barrel when you start reaching the limits of the barrel harmonics on higher velocities and heavy slugs . I think we are all looking forward to testing the benefits .
@@Airbuks yes i'd like to disassemble the barrel system and see the tollerance between the CF sleeve assembled on the liner and nut and the bridge at the both extremity and see if the both o'rings at the end of each side of the CF Sleeve compensate it well or not.
@@lenweber7142 no , the ones I have are the very first ones the guy made and the ID is to small to fit the CF liners , I haven’t tried it in the recent SS sleeve 🤔
very well explained the cover of the barrels the one you placed not the other one that gives a larger appearance to the barrel I don't remember the name is there carbon fiber?
Getting the sleeve past the threads is tough. Seemed as though the sleeve was slightly larger on each end. Had to push it in past the threads with the barrel nut.
Many thanks for the videos.Very helpful my friend.After installation though you will need to re adjust your scope! At least mine had to be zeroed again.
That is quite normal as it makes your barrel more rigid , so after installing this your barrel will flex / droop less and there for you poi will change .
Excellent video as always!!! I give you a thumbs up on every video!! I appreciate your time and quality of every video!! I look forward to every video of yours!!! Thanks again my friend!!
Thanks for showing, I wondered how this worked. However, I now wonder why FX do not make the barrel sleeve smaller so it fits snug to their liners, save on material, weight, create more air space inside the shroud. I am probably missing something. Again thanks.
The strength characteristics of carbon fiber is much higher the aluminum so putting it in between makes sense. Having the benefits of aluminum and carbon fiber together
You postulate that putting one of these carbon fiber sleeves over my barrel liner will stiffen it up and dampen down the barrel whip and thereby improve the "barrels' harmonics", and that this will "help out a lot" with "harmony and accuracy". So I would like to know if you have shot any groups at say 50 & 75 yards with and without this carbon fiber sleeve on your liner to see if it truly improves your accuracy, and if so then by exactly how much did it improve your accuracy?
I have a question I have the tension barrel system how tight do I tighten the 18 mm nut is there a tuque spec I don’t have the screw on barrel just the nut and then the moderator I know you have a video on it I just can’t find it tu again
Hello, first of all I apologize for my English, I follow you from Argentina. I ask you if it is necessary to also install the "Integrated Harmonic Barrel Tuning Shroud", together with the "CARBON FIBER LINER SLEEVE", or with this only it is enough to reduce the harmonics of the liner?
Hi; did you make the comparison video without and with? I would be interested to see the difference because I hesitate between this system or put the barrel tuner that will you advise me? Thank you for sharing and these explanations
Hi , I haven’t made that video . I tried bringing it on video but from the moment I putted the liner sleeve inside I had to retune my impact to get the same accuracy. So it very hard to compare the differences with or without. If you have a gun that is tuned to perfection this isn’t giving better accuracy but it improves the stiffness and helps to maintain the poi over time . In my opinion a good cheap upgrade so you don’t need to mess around with these orings 😉 I added it to all my barrels The barrel tuner I am still trying to figure out
@@Airbuks Yes, it's true that it's cheap and you glued it to epoxy? Do you advise me to take the barrel tuner because it works well? Thank you anyway for your answers
@@SnipeLoisirsTestsCustoms no I don’t glue it so I can use it on different liners 😉 ( I am a cheap ass 🤣) On the barrel tuner I can’t advise advise yet as I am still testing it myself before I advise it to others . At the moment I have the feeling if you have your gun tuned very well it won’t bring a big difference as your gun is already in harmony. If your gun isn’t in balance yet you can easily see the improvements. But as I mentioned, I don’t have the complete answer to it yet
Great video. For the next one maybe do an accuracy comparison? I want to order one for my Maverick... but is it going to benefit my already laser-accurate rifle?
At extreme distance I think you'd see an improvement but at 100 yards, probably not much. I put one in my Maverick, no noticeable difference under 100 yards, haven't shot with it over 100 yet.
Many thanks for making this review, is very timely for me,i have just ordered a liner for my new Crown, if all goes well, i'll be ordering for my Wildcat & DreamTac, good work my friend
Someone link me to an install vid on the dreamline barrel please? The orings in that are different. Not sure I could get the barrel centered. Had a few clips of the shroud.
hi Man thank for your videos you are very precise in the explenation...;) i did the same without glue, but it seems that the CF sleeve move up and down in the barrel housing so i tried using 2 orings to block the sleeve but i'm afraid that this add some even minimal movement of the CF sleeve at the time of the shoot and create a new variable in the harmonic. My impressions are that the correct procedure (teoretically at least) would be using the glue ... why you choose to mention the 2 part epoxy and not the Loctite?
🤔 mine doesn’t move inside, but putting a oring to prevent that could help indeed . I use the epoxy as I am used to the compound , it’s slightly thicker then loctide to fill up the voids if there should be any
@@Airbuks i own the 70 mm heavy liner for slug, ordered the 70 mm CF Sleeve and tried to install without any glue or oring. I feel a movement from the back to the front and opposit i mean. if i put just an oring (the ones of the standard system that is very thick) on the front and try again i feel no movement.
@@Airbuks A mate and I both bought FX M3 late last year. Both rifles regularly had flyers, mine had changes of grouping. Grouping at 50 meters was about 10cm. Both rifles. It may have been a bad batch after the pandemic lockdown but for me, I didn't pay £1850 for a shit rifle. Its been replaced with new S510TR AirArms. Grouping is 1cm at 50 meters without flyers. Happy I got rid of the M3.
@@Airbuks My mate had his sent back to Sportsman Gun centre 3 times. They are the FX distributor in the UK. They never resolved the problem. I went straight for exchange to save me the trouble. Thank you for the replies, all the best.
Hello! I purshased one but it’s impossible for me push it down the barrel?! Few centimeters and the carbon is already scratched and at 10cm I was blocked… half a hour to push it out 😮🤬🥵 do you know this problem? Thx 🙏
Fx really should make these free or at least at very low cost. 30 euro for a little tube? 5 euro would be a better price if you ask me. It's not up to the customer to pay for this when it's a design fault.( Barrels too weak) The sleeves should come standard fitted as well.
Hello "Airbuks" - you have done 2 upgrades with respect to barrel stiffness. One here with the carbon fibre sleeve, and another with the thicker outer stainless steel barrel housing. I would be very interested in knowing your opinion, which method do you think, obtains better improvement to accuracy? Thank you for your videos, they are most informative.
Hi , to be honest I never really compared it 🤔 but both do get the stiffness better . In my opinion the ss barrel sleeve is a bite stiffer then the carbon fiber liner sleeve butt also adds more weight . The original barrel with the carbon fiber liner sleeve fit nicely together and create a nice sandwich if you can call it like that , also less weight added . No fiddling with orings and is available off the shelf . If you do your tuning right I think there is no difference between them regarding accuracy out to 100m . And maybe the carbon sleeve are a much cheaper option and available off the shelf
This is the comment and answer I've been searching for. I was hoping airbuks would post a video, doing a accuracy comparison, between fx standard, ss sleeve and the cf sleeve. Still would be good to see a comparison as there's no other video before and after.
Yes that is 100% correct. A 700mm liner sits about 45mm into the silver and brass transferport and the lock nut on the end screws in about 20-25mm and with some room to spare 600mm for a 700mm barrel is correct
what is the thcikness for .22 cal, i seen it as 8mm id, but i dont know what must be the od. the common in my area is 8mm x 10mm, making it 2 mm thick. does it need to be thicker?
Kan het zijn dat ik van mijn Maverick Sniper de loopmantel (shroud) niet losgedraaid krijg? Ik durf niet veel meer kracht te zetten uit angst iets kapot te draaien of te forceren...
Normaal gezien moet je die er gewoon kunnen afdraaien. Er kan geen lijm of iets dergelijks gebruikt zijn omdat je toegang moet hebben tot de schroef van voor op je loop zodat je de liners kan wisselen of poetsen .🤔 Voor de veiligheid kan je de loop er best afhalen en in een bankvijsje steken en dan nog eens proberen . Op die manieren kan je normaal gezien niets kapot draaien
@@Airbuks Ik heb de Maverick tweedehands, dan weet je nooit wat er vooraf mee gebeurd is natuurlijk, maar ik ga van het goede van de mensen uit en geloof de vorige eigenaar dat ie hem niet gelijmd heeft. De Maverick ziet er trouwens absoluut niet verkloot uit. Wat is trouwens ook het nut om te lijjmen. Ik ga dus idd de loop voorzichtig klemmen en proberen los te krijgen, desnoods met gebruik van een hetelucht-warmtebron. Het is noodzakelijk want ik wil er de DonnyFl Shogun op bevestigen. Heb ik trouwens al gedaan en de resultaten zijn zeer bemoedigend, maar dat ding is redelijk topzwaar en ik wil de loop zoveel mogelijk verstarren om de instabiliteit eruit te halen. Ik houd je op de hoogte. Appreciatie voor je snelle info vanuit Bree, Limburg.
@@marcceyssens8524 ik ga ervan uit dat die gewoon stevig aangedraaid is dus ik een bankvijs zal het wel lukken. . Succes en laat maar weten als het je gelukt is
@@Airbuks Dag Matthias, want ik geloof dat dat je voornaam is, excuses als ik er hiermee langs zit, maar gelieve dan te verbeteren:-). Ik heb de shroud juist los gekregen. De volledige loopset uit het wapen verwijderd. Daarna de loopmantel tussen de bankschroef gedraaid, goed vast, maar serieus goed vast. Daarna met moeders haar haarföhn goed lang het uiteinde vd shroud verwarmd zodat je die met de blote hand niet meer vast kon houden. Dan schietgebedje gelanceerd tesamen met toch nogal wat kracht (en dito krachttermen) en plots kwam ie los. Dat is dus iets wat je kan meegeven aan al je volgers (met hetzelfde probleem)! De loopmantel zit niet altijd handvast in de shroud vastgedraaid. Ik ga je niet verder ophouden want moet nog een en ander bestellen om de Maverick op het niveau te krijgen waarop ik 'm wil. Bedankt en fijne dag nog! Keep up the good work man!
@@marcceyssens8524 goed te horen dat het gelukt is , deze hoort niet zo vast te zitten 🙈 misschien heeft de vorige eigenaar hem wat te vast gezet 🤔 . Eind goed al goed 👍🏻 Ps Mathias is idd mijn naam 👍🏻
@@Airbuks I did , they don’t make them yet . If you need one for the 700 and o rings are not enough then why they they work for a 800mm ? You are limited by the can you can put on the rifle because the barrel sag is ridiculous. I don’t think they thought it out . I know the 800mm plus barrels from skout come with them . As soon as they dreamed this up they should have made one . Before even the slug barrel .
Then you have to buy the whole barrel kit just to get the tension system . 400 bucks . They don’t sell the system without the new block . I might have to make my own stuff .
@@simoncoher4841 yes indeed my M3 is already very accurate and don’t expect any miracles but when I up the regulator pressure to 150bar and shoot slugs I never get the same accuracy as with pellets at a low regulator pressure , so I hope all the extras will help to get good groups on paper 🤞🏻
What do you mean sir ? They make one for a 500mm liner aswel 🤷♂️ But the cf sleeves are only for the normal barrels not for the super light ones from the crown
That’s the reason why I don’t glue them aswel 😉 the grease is a good tip 👍🏻 The characteristics of carbon fiber in cold and warm are very good ( expansion/ contraction wise ) so I don’t see much of a problem
@@Wolf-689xl just be aware the Cf liner sleeves might not fit the stainless steel sleeves as they have a smaller ID I think . It was like this in the beginning he made them , not sure if it’s the same now 🤷♂️
When the slugs came out and customers pushed the limits of speed the harmonics increased , they are addressing it with a less expensive but effective fix for older MK1 , MK2 guns , It’s not a bad idea .
Jury rigged solution to a problem that shouldn't exist. Believe me the difference in expansion of the two materials means you must glue it to be even marginally effective.
Hi , from the moment I did the video they always have been in stock where I live 🤷♂️ check out these links if you live in Europe www.krale.shop/nl/barrel-sleeve-fx-carbon-fiber/ www.huma-air.com/FX-Carbon-Fiber-Barrel-Sleeve
Great video. My CF sleeve was slightly oversized at one spot and required that I painstakingly sand it to size. Only took about 15 min and the install was complete. Appreciate the clear and concise instructions, it made things easier.
Thx , glad you got that fixed 👍🏻
“Pain in the hiney”. Excellent! Nice human phrase (we can all understand). Subscribed.
🤣👍🏻
Be nice if FX would actually fill there many months long backlogs on people waiting for barrels
What would be nice is to show the accuracy before the carbon fibre sleeve install, and again after the install. We could then see if it makes any difference.
👍🏻 I had that suggestion already and thinking about it 👌🏻
@@Airbuks No change at all.
For simplicity sake when I installed my carbon fiber sleeve I didn't even have to take the Barrel housing Out I just Unscrewed the shroud and pulled the liner out and then put the liner in the Carbon fiber sleeve and then put everything back together. It makes for a much quicker installation
This chanel is so underrated
I didn’t glue mine in case I switch to a slug liner. Great video.
There is a thick silicone grease much like dielectric grease , it would not damage the barrel or the carbon fiber , it might be another way to dampen the harmonics without gluing . It’s something I will look into when I receive the carbon liner from Airguns of Utah .
Nice idea , die you have a name of that product?
@@Airbuks Super Lube silicone brake grease or Permatex dielectric grease .
@@hotchihuahua1546 thx
Would be interesting to compare groups with and without this liner, might not make any difference at all....But I guess we will only know that once we spend the money and test for ourselves....
Maybe I can do that 🤔
@@Airbuks that would be great and highly appreciated...your videos are awesome ;)
You may find the new adjustable damper will fix much of the issues , the sleeve helps stiffen the barrel when you start reaching the limits of the barrel harmonics on higher velocities and heavy slugs . I think we are all looking forward to testing the benefits .
I still used one o ring on each end with our impacts just to dampen . vibrations,,,. Great video thanks Len and Teresa😊
Maybe I should try that aswel , thx for the tip 👍🏻 ps : nice to meet one of the female viewers aswel 👍🏻
@@Airbuks yes i'd like to disassemble the barrel system and see the tollerance between the CF sleeve assembled on the liner and nut and the bridge at the both extremity and see if the both o'rings at the end of each side of the CF Sleeve compensate it well or not.
@@Airbuks have you been able to put the carbon tube inside the stainless steel shroud, around the barrel?
@@lenweber7142 no , the ones I have are the very first ones the guy made and the ID is to small to fit the CF liners , I haven’t tried it in the recent SS sleeve 🤔
very well explained the cover of the barrels the one you placed not the other one that gives a larger appearance to the barrel I don't remember the name is there carbon fiber?
Sorry mate , I don’t understand 😬 you mean the shroud?
@@Airbuks I am referring to the jacket of the barrel, the aluminum one that could otherwise be changed for a carbon fiber one
Getting the sleeve past the threads is tough. Seemed as though the sleeve was slightly larger on each end. Had to push it in past the threads with the barrel nut.
🤔 strange, but ja tight fit is always better I guess 😉
Many thanks for the videos.Very helpful my friend.After installation though you will need to re adjust your scope! At least mine had to be zeroed again.
That is quite normal as it makes your barrel more rigid , so after installing this your barrel will flex / droop less and there for you poi will change .
I just ordered the carbon fiber sleeve and the slug kit
Excellent video as always!!! I give you a thumbs up on every video!! I appreciate your time and quality of every video!! I look forward to every video of yours!!! Thanks again my friend!!
Thx for the support 🙏🏻
@@Airbuks Amen 🙏🏻 God Bless !!!
Thanks for showing, I wondered how this worked.
However, I now wonder why FX do not make the barrel sleeve smaller so it fits snug to their liners, save on material, weight, create more air space inside the shroud.
I am probably missing something.
Again thanks.
The strength characteristics of carbon fiber is much higher the aluminum so putting it in between makes sense. Having the benefits of aluminum and carbon fiber together
So u have to spend more money 💰
@@crypto_creep8222 😂 it’s like options on a car do you really need them , no . Do you want them , yes . So it will cost some extra 😉😂
@@Airbuks I still belive and I'm sure you agree with me weather you can say it or not they should be a stock option
@@crypto_creep8222 offcours I agree this should be a stock option! Maybe some future models will have it standard
Very well presented .Could I put that on my smooth twist barrel? Cher’s Dean
Any FX barrel with liners should work
You postulate that putting one of these carbon fiber sleeves over my barrel liner will stiffen it up and dampen down the barrel whip and thereby improve the "barrels' harmonics", and that this will "help out a lot" with "harmony and accuracy". So I would like to know if you have shot any groups at say 50 & 75 yards with and without this carbon fiber sleeve on your liner to see if it truly improves your accuracy, and if so then by exactly how much did it improve your accuracy?
Hi Charles, I see your point 👍🏻 that’s a test that I can do in a future video .
@@Airbuks I think a whole lot of us would be interested in your results
I'd certainly love to see an accuracy comparison video! Airbuks! As an FX "Guru", I challenge you to produce a comparison video. 🎬😊
Where's the beef? Yeah, I'd like to see a before and after test.
Great video, thank you for posting!
I have a question I have the tension barrel system how tight do I tighten the 18 mm nut is there a tuque spec I don’t have the screw on barrel just the nut and then the moderator I know you have a video on it I just can’t find it tu again
I do it hand tight and then I try different torque specs 1/4 turn with a wrench
Thank you for your time and explanation👍👍👍👍👍👍
You’re welcome ☺️ thx for the support
Hello, first of all I apologize for my English, I follow you from Argentina. I ask you if it is necessary to also install the "Integrated Harmonic Barrel Tuning Shroud", together with the "CARBON FIBER LINER SLEEVE", or with this only it is enough to reduce the harmonics of the liner?
No you can perfectly use the liner sleeve without the tuner 👍🏻 it will help mostly stiffing up the barrel and maybe a little bit in the harmonics
Do you know how OD and the ID of Carbon Fiber Sleeve ?
Great video, would it not be best to install with mild grease to stop any vibration.
Silicone grease is what I’m going to try , it shouldn’t hurt the carbon fiber or barrel . Permatex silicone grease should work .
Do you still have to index the liner? Or does this fix the indexing? I bet you will to fine tune
Hi; did you make the comparison video without and with? I would be interested to see the difference because I hesitate between this system or put the barrel tuner that will you advise me? Thank you for sharing and these explanations
Hi , I haven’t made that video . I tried bringing it on video but from the moment I putted the liner sleeve inside I had to retune my impact to get the same accuracy.
So it very hard to compare the differences with or without.
If you have a gun that is tuned to perfection this isn’t giving better accuracy but it improves the stiffness and helps to maintain the poi over time .
In my opinion a good cheap upgrade so you don’t need to mess around with these orings 😉
I added it to all my barrels
The barrel tuner I am still trying to figure out
@@Airbuks Yes, it's true that it's cheap and you glued it to epoxy? Do you advise me to take the barrel tuner because it works well? Thank you anyway for your answers
@@SnipeLoisirsTestsCustoms no I don’t glue it so I can use it on different liners 😉 ( I am a cheap ass 🤣)
On the barrel tuner I can’t advise advise yet as I am still testing it myself before I advise it to others .
At the moment I have the feeling if you have your gun tuned very well it won’t bring a big difference as your gun is already in harmony.
If your gun isn’t in balance yet you can easily see the improvements.
But as I mentioned, I don’t have the complete answer to it yet
@@Airbuks Ok thank you 😂for the barrel tuner I'll see as soon as it's available I'll try to adjust it well before thank you good shot see you soon
Great video. For the next one maybe do an accuracy comparison? I want to order one for my Maverick... but is it going to benefit my already laser-accurate rifle?
Good question, I am thinking about making a video about it 👍🏻
At extreme distance I think you'd see an improvement but at 100 yards, probably not much. I put one in my Maverick, no noticeable difference under 100 yards, haven't shot with it over 100 yet.
Many thanks for making this review, is very timely for me,i have just ordered a liner for my new Crown, if all goes well, i'll be ordering for my Wildcat & DreamTac, good work my friend
Great job my friend what is the CF length of the 600 millimetres superior liner thanks
Not 100% sure as I installed it in my gun 😉 but I think it’s about 500mm long
@@Airbuks thank you
@@Airbuks thanks and what is the OD/Id size of the CF sleeve
@@yanhuawu6614 also not sure as I mentioned I have it installed 😉
@@Airbuks ok thanks
Wow ..! It’s great sir! I like it! Can you provide me a link or website so I can get it sir? Thank you very much
You should be able to buy it at any store that sells FX airguns
Someone link me to an install vid on the dreamline barrel please? The orings in that are different. Not sure I could get the barrel centered. Had a few clips of the shroud.
What kind of Dreamline barrel do you have a traditional one like in the impact etc or a super light one with spacers like the Crown has ?
Can you measure the OD and the ID of CF sleeve?
hi Man thank for your videos you are very precise in the explenation...;) i did the same without glue, but it seems that the CF sleeve move up and down in the barrel housing so i tried using 2 orings to block the sleeve but i'm afraid that this add some even minimal movement of the CF sleeve at the time of the shoot and create a new variable in the harmonic. My impressions are that the correct procedure (teoretically at least) would be using the glue ... why you choose to mention the 2 part epoxy and not the Loctite?
🤔 mine doesn’t move inside, but putting a oring to prevent that could help indeed .
I use the epoxy as I am used to the compound , it’s slightly thicker then loctide to fill up the voids if there should be any
@@Airbuks i own the 70 mm heavy liner for slug, ordered the 70 mm CF Sleeve and tried to install without any glue or oring. I feel a movement from the back to the front and opposit i mean. if i put just an oring (the ones of the standard system that is very thick) on the front and try again i feel no movement.
My carbon tube didnt slide in that easy into the barrel sleeve. Had to use a bit force.. liner went into the carbon tube easier.
🤔 that’s odd
I found the perfect solutions to my FX Impact Mk3.
I got rid of it.
🤣 why what was wrong ?
@@Airbuks A mate and I both bought FX M3 late last year. Both rifles regularly had flyers, mine had changes of grouping. Grouping at 50 meters was about 10cm. Both rifles.
It may have been a bad batch after the pandemic lockdown but for me, I didn't pay £1850 for a shit rifle. Its been replaced with new S510TR AirArms. Grouping is 1cm at 50 meters without flyers. Happy I got rid of the M3.
@@thelairdmc sad to here that mate , it could be a easy fix as it could be a small issue 😬 but I am sure the Air Arms is a great rifle aswel 👍🏻 enjoy
@@Airbuks My mate had his sent back to Sportsman Gun centre 3 times. They are the FX distributor in the UK. They never resolved the problem. I went straight for exchange to save me the trouble.
Thank you for the replies, all the best.
Any idea what is ID and OD of carbon fibre sleeve?
Sr I have a cuestion where can I get the jam nut part for my fx impact m3 .22 cal
You can order it from your dealer
Hello! I purshased one but it’s impossible for me push it down the barrel?! Few centimeters and the carbon is already scratched and at 10cm I was blocked… half a hour to push it out 😮🤬🥵 do you know this problem? Thx 🙏
No I haven’t heard of that yet . Is it a original FX part or did you buy it online somewhere ?
@@AirbuksHello, thanks for your answer. No it’s a Fx airgun packaging (700mm .22) i don’t understand what happen here 🤔☹️
@@jeromemorespeeder3503 send FX a mail explaining it and they will send you a replacement
Hello,
Good video
Can I do the same with my dreamline ?
Thank you
Yes offcours
Fx really should make these free or at least at very low cost. 30 euro for a little tube? 5 euro would be a better price if you ask me.
It's not up to the customer to pay for this when it's a design fault.( Barrels too weak) The sleeves should come standard fitted as well.
Maybe they will be in the future 🤞🏻
Do you need this if you were to get the FX Integrated Harmonic Barrel Tuner?
No it’s not needed but I would advise it 👍🏻
Hello "Airbuks" - you have done 2 upgrades with respect to barrel stiffness. One here with the carbon fibre sleeve, and another with the thicker outer stainless steel barrel housing. I would be very interested in knowing your opinion, which method do you think, obtains better improvement to accuracy? Thank you for your videos, they are most informative.
Hi , to be honest I never really compared it 🤔 but both do get the stiffness better . In my opinion the ss barrel sleeve is a bite stiffer then the carbon fiber liner sleeve butt also adds more weight .
The original barrel with the carbon fiber liner sleeve fit nicely together and create a nice sandwich if you can call it like that , also less weight added .
No fiddling with orings and is available off the shelf .
If you do your tuning right I think there is no difference between them regarding accuracy out to 100m .
And maybe the carbon sleeve are a much cheaper option and available off the shelf
This is the comment and answer I've been searching for.
I was hoping airbuks would post a video, doing a accuracy comparison, between fx standard, ss sleeve and the cf sleeve.
Still would be good to see a comparison as there's no other video before and after.
Great video, thanks for sharing. After fitting the Carbon Sleeve and refitting into the outer barrel do you have to index the liner? Thanks
Hi , thx ! I have experimented with that after installing th cf sleeve and indexing still makes a difference yes
@@Airbuks what does it mean to index the liner? Like just rotating it? Thank you
@@jonahchua yes indeed , try rotating it to 12-3-6-9 o’clock and you will be surprised with the results on paper 😉
@@Airbuks oh nice, my accuracy is quite bad right now so I need all the help. Thank you very much 👍
@@jonahchua can you tell me your setup , caliber , etc …
What are the lengths of the sleeves. I ordered one for my 700mm barrel and the sleeve showed up 596mm, doesn't seem right?
Yes that is 100% correct. A 700mm liner sits about 45mm into the silver and brass transferport and the lock nut on the end screws in about 20-25mm and with some room to spare 600mm for a 700mm barrel is correct
Can you tell me what the diameter of the tubes are thanks
what is the thcikness for .22 cal, i seen it as 8mm id, but i dont know what must be the od. the common in my area is 8mm x 10mm, making it 2 mm thick. does it need to be thicker?
What size did you get for the .22?
@@Tunnelrat6666 8mm*12mm 3k cf tube for drone will do, just trim the inner and outer diam to fit for liner and shroud
@@CALOYairguns Thanks will give it a go. Fx has never had stock in Australia and I am sick of waiting.
Hi, just a quick question. Does this carbon fiber liner sleeve fit to a superior barrel? Thank you.
They are made to fit the superior and superior heavy liners 👍🏻
Thank you!
So really there is no point in glueing them as surly once you screw the jam nut in it will press up anyway ????
Kan het zijn dat ik van mijn Maverick Sniper de loopmantel (shroud) niet losgedraaid krijg? Ik durf niet veel meer kracht te zetten uit angst iets kapot te draaien of te forceren...
Normaal gezien moet je die er gewoon kunnen afdraaien. Er kan geen lijm of iets dergelijks gebruikt zijn omdat je toegang moet hebben tot de schroef van voor op je loop zodat je de liners kan wisselen of poetsen .🤔
Voor de veiligheid kan je de loop er best afhalen en in een bankvijsje steken en dan nog eens proberen . Op die manieren kan je normaal gezien niets kapot draaien
@@Airbuks Ik heb de Maverick tweedehands, dan weet je nooit wat er vooraf mee gebeurd is natuurlijk, maar ik ga van het goede van de mensen uit en geloof de vorige eigenaar dat ie hem niet gelijmd heeft. De Maverick ziet er trouwens absoluut niet verkloot uit. Wat is trouwens ook het nut om te lijjmen. Ik ga dus idd de loop voorzichtig klemmen en proberen los te krijgen, desnoods met gebruik van een hetelucht-warmtebron. Het is noodzakelijk want ik wil er de DonnyFl Shogun op bevestigen. Heb ik trouwens al gedaan en de resultaten zijn zeer bemoedigend, maar dat ding is redelijk topzwaar en ik wil de loop zoveel mogelijk verstarren om de instabiliteit eruit te halen. Ik houd je op de hoogte. Appreciatie voor je snelle info vanuit Bree, Limburg.
@@marcceyssens8524 ik ga ervan uit dat die gewoon stevig aangedraaid is dus ik een bankvijs zal het wel lukken. . Succes en laat maar weten als het je gelukt is
@@Airbuks Dag Matthias, want ik geloof dat dat je voornaam is, excuses als ik er hiermee langs zit, maar gelieve dan te verbeteren:-). Ik heb de shroud juist los gekregen. De volledige loopset uit het wapen verwijderd. Daarna de loopmantel tussen de bankschroef gedraaid, goed vast, maar serieus goed vast. Daarna met moeders haar haarföhn goed lang het uiteinde vd shroud verwarmd zodat je die met de blote hand niet meer vast kon houden. Dan schietgebedje gelanceerd tesamen met toch nogal wat kracht (en dito krachttermen) en plots kwam ie los. Dat is dus iets wat je kan meegeven aan al je volgers (met hetzelfde probleem)! De loopmantel zit niet altijd handvast in de shroud vastgedraaid. Ik ga je niet verder ophouden want moet nog een en ander bestellen om de Maverick op het niveau te krijgen waarop ik 'm wil. Bedankt en fijne dag nog! Keep up the good work man!
@@marcceyssens8524 goed te horen dat het gelukt is , deze hoort niet zo vast te zitten 🙈 misschien heeft de vorige eigenaar hem wat te vast gezet 🤔 . Eind goed al goed 👍🏻
Ps Mathias is idd mijn naam 👍🏻
Thank you for the instruction.
Your welcome
So should we combine it with carbon barrel harmonic tuner?
As I replied in the other comment 😉
Why none for the 357 800mm barrel? Lord knows it needs it .
🤔 not sure if they exist , I don’t own a 357 so I haven’t looked into that
@@Airbuks I did , they don’t make them yet . If you need one for the 700 and o rings are not enough then why they they work for a 800mm ? You are limited by the can you can put on the rifle because the barrel sag is ridiculous. I don’t think they thought it out . I know the 800mm plus barrels from skout come with them . As soon as they dreamed this up they should have made one . Before even the slug barrel .
Then you have to buy the whole barrel kit just to get the tension system . 400 bucks . They don’t sell the system without the new block . I might have to make my own stuff .
is the 600mm sleeve we sets on 700mm barrel?reply please
Hi mate , if you know me a little bit I will always try to reply 😉
The sleeve for a 700mm liner is around 600mm long yes 👍🏻
Does this also apply to Fx panthera?
The Panthera comes with one standard from factory
Thank you. Looks pretty fool proof.
Another great video , easy to install have you tested it yet mate and is there much difference?.
Thank you keep them coming ..
Hi , thx for the support. I haven’t had the chance to test it yet as the weather isn’t cooperating with my schedule 😉
@@Airbuks Hi mate I be watching with anticipation, As with out the liner you where getting good groups ..
@@simoncoher4841 yes indeed my M3 is already very accurate and don’t expect any miracles but when I up the regulator pressure to 150bar and shoot slugs I never get the same accuracy as with pellets at a low regulator pressure , so I hope all the extras will help to get good groups on paper 🤞🏻
@@Airbuks As soon as the weather gets good and you have some free time you will soon find out I for 1 can wait mate look forward to your review 👍
how about 500mm installation ? need clearance between ham nut ?
What do you mean sir ? They make one for a 500mm liner aswel 🤷♂️
But the cf sleeves are only for the normal barrels not for the super light ones from the crown
what is the OD and ID of 177 carbon fiber sleeve.
I don’t know 🤷♂️ I don’t have any in 177
Por favor
Los subtítulos tener opción de verlo en
Gracias
I will try on some further videos 👍🏻
@@Airbuks en español gracias
please,
What is the inner diameter of small carbon fiber
Measure the liner you have in your gun it depends on the caliber 😉
@@Airbuks .25 caliber. What's the outside diameter
Hi my friend, could you recommend a tri pod for a Impact M3?
No sorry, still looking for one myself 😉
Athlon Midas hands down
Did you tought about wht cold and warm weather could do when you bound 2 different materials togheter? 😉
Better ad some grease on the liner
That’s the reason why I don’t glue them aswel 😉 the grease is a good tip 👍🏻
The characteristics of carbon fiber in cold and warm are very good ( expansion/ contraction wise ) so I don’t see much of a problem
What is the outer diameter of a .22 liner?
Not sure 🤔
do they make them for dreamline compact?
🤔 I think the shortest are for a 500mm , but you could buy a 500mm and cut it down to length
Você vende LINE para o Brazi?
Is this sleeve applicable on the dreamline as ell?
Yep
I have the new dreamline version..where can I get this CF tubes
@@pinoydad_0811 depends on where you live , if you live in Europe try Krale Schietsport or Huma Air
Làm sao tôi có thể mua nòng FX được
Are they available in the USA?
They should yes
@@Airbuks thank you, also thank you for the link to Ronny, his stainless steel sleeve arrived yesterday, amazing craftsmanship.
@@Wolf-689xl just be aware the Cf liner sleeves might not fit the stainless steel sleeves as they have a smaller ID I think .
It was like this in the beginning he made them , not sure if it’s the same now 🤷♂️
Just got mine from Airguns of Utah yesterday .
Thanks for other video 😊
You’re welcome 👍🏻
M3... what abaut mk2?
The cabin liners sleeves fit any Fx barrel with liners 👌🏻
Qual é a medida do sleeve?
do they work though?
Time will tell 😉
@@Airbuks I hope so. I just ordered one at the same time I ordered my new M3
Even if it helps to stop overtightening of the jam nut its a bonus.
Yes I don’t have the shroud
Can buy a pc?
Nope 👎
Fx should make this stock and not a aftermarket part. Fx is getting away from making great guns to making gimmick guns
When the slugs came out and customers pushed the limits of speed the harmonics increased , they are addressing it with a less expensive but effective fix for older MK1 , MK2 guns , It’s not a bad idea .
You Shop pls …????? Link
I don’t have a shop 🤷♂️ just a TH-cam guy 😉
Skipped the how to remove the barrel part…
If you know your way around your FX I totally understand you skipped that part 😉 for some owner it is still useful
FX los rifles más estúpidos si quieres tirar una clase de balines le tiene que cambiar el cañón sintonizador al cañón silenciador y al final no agrupa
English please
Like friends 👍👍
Hi
Jury rigged solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.
Believe me the difference in expansion of the two materials means you must glue it to be even marginally effective.
Those carbon fiber sleeve are not on the market because fx people are lazy so you should not be doing a review on a product that not for purchase
Hi , from the moment I did the video they always have been in stock where I live 🤷♂️ check out these links if you live in Europe
www.krale.shop/nl/barrel-sleeve-fx-carbon-fiber/
www.huma-air.com/FX-Carbon-Fiber-Barrel-Sleeve
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