All these cars people still driving here in Bosnia. Golf Mk2 1.6D 40kw is absolute hit here and the best csr ever made. They can last long as owner or even longer with proper maintenance. Now Golf Mk4 1.9TDI takes place on road from mk2 but it will never be legend as mk2. I don't like VAG at all but it is fact that their cars are most reliable for lower price here in Europe.
The best diesel engines are those of the late 90s/early 2000s, when they had high preassure direct injection and turbochargers, but without any DPF or EGR valve to clog up with sot after 100 000 km, setting your car into limp mode only to cost you $3,000 to fix at the dealer.
For those interested: The Fiesta was last taxed until June 1997 The Escort was last taxed until Sept 1997 The Orion was last taxed until October 1993 The Daihatsu was last taxed until May 1992 The Peugeot was last taxed until July 2000 The Cavalier was last taxed until February 1994 The Renault was last taxed until Sept 1994 Couldn't read/find the other car's registrations I searched for these out of interest, RIP to all these cars. You're welcome
This brings back memories. The company my father worked for in the 80's had Orion and Escort diesels and he sometimes borrowed and Orion diesel pool car. I used to the love the clatter and idle and they always had a distinctive smell inside. I purchased C reg Orion diesel on in the late 90's and it still smelt and sounded the same, was also very comfortable but I remember the steering being extremely heavy! I would love another if I could find one.
The Presenter of this film is the late actor James Kerry. He starred in many great TV shows of the 60s and 70s including The Saint, Dr Who and General Hospital. He sadly passed away a decade after making this at the age of 57.
My dad did bought a second hand Mk1 Sierra (late one, 1986)........... and after many years, he had sold it with 560,000 km's (interior was desintegrating and last years he used the big trunk to collect spare wood in forrest). But it had Peugeot 2.3D and the car was made in Belgium. With European diesel FORD's since Mk 5 Escort 1.8TD, you can literally throw a dice. You either have one great car or total misery on 4 wheels. Like the first Edge design Mondeos ....... many people perfectly happy while many couldn't even start it at +5 degrees of Celsius.
70mpg, and here we are 35 years later STILL struggling to match that! they werent gutless in their day, but they were anything BUT quiet. we owned them at the time, and i would want another as a second car. sadly theyre very expensive now, for what they are
@ betaman, thanks for posting! I'm a long term fan of the 1.6D, ever since their launch. First one I drove was a nearly new 1986 Escort Combi van 1.6D Popular. It was a company vehicle shared by two of us. Unfortunately in the hands of the girlfriend of the other driver one evening, it lost an argument with a taxi, and that was my 1.6D motoring over, for what at the time I thought would be for ever.... Wind the clock forward a couple of decades or so though, and I am the happy owner of three low mileage examples! I have a 1984 Fiesta L 1.6D, and two Mk4 Escort 1.6Ds. One is a 1986 5 door estate, the other is a 1987 3 door Popular saloon. I never originally planned to have three of them, but they were all too good to miss, and I knew that near mint low mileage examples were not exactly common! Also I just couldn't bear the thought of someone maybe buying them for their shells and sticking in other engines! Yes the 1.6D isn't the fastest, and yes they are rather agricultural, but so what, they are bullet proof mileage munchers, and that distinctive sound of theirs is fabulous! Doug
it really was a good engine. It had 33.75hp / liter which was very good at that time. Even the last volkswagen SDI (non-turbo diesel) with high pressure PD-injection only had 37.5hp / liter. Most other naturally aspirated diesel engines at that time were worse. The Peugeot XD2 Ford used at that time in other models, only had 29hp/liter. My grandpa had a fiesta with that engine and never changed the oil until it barely reached 100km/h any more. In the garage then, they realized the problem, changed the oil and it went strong again without any problems. Do this to a modern engine...
Ha, that engine was a bloody good one, we had escort Van's in the 80s, lasted into the early 2000s being thrashed for their whole life by forty maintenance engineers. Mine ( we each had a van but anyone could use it, basically you looked after it) when round the clock 4 times an a bit more, it was still driving as it went to the scrappers!
@@nysun6293 Except that electric cars really are the future. It's just a matter of time before the cost drops by a bit and the public awareness increases, deviating from what I see in today's comment sections full of myths, lies and misconceptions.
I had a 1.6D Fiesta around 1988, went to Blackpool for the weekend, overslept on the Sunday & had to get back for a christening in Walsall, drove it flat out all the way back on the M6, 100mph all the way back , my ears were ringing & had white finger by the time I got back lol
Ford Escort 1988 1.6 diesel estate.Best car I ever owned. I drive slowly anyway so speed no problem. Minimum of 50mpg easy to repair and kept going up to 275,000 miles before rust took over. Engine still working great even at that mileage 🙂
I've owned both the 1.6D and 1.8TD Ford and 1.9 XUD and DT engines. The fact I still have a 1998 306 that's still going immensely strong in body and engine, should tell you all you need to know.
I used to drive a Mk2 Fiesta van with the 1.6D, it was a great wee thing, it just ran and ran, it got replaced with a bedford rascal which require way more gearbox rowing while running about industrial estates delivering parts.
I learned to drive in an escort powered by one of these. Clattery & slow, yes, but it managed over 50mpg at a time when diesel was much, much cheaper than petrol was. It was a non-turbo so no fireball to drive, but honestly just for transport it was fine. It wasn't until the mass adoption of diesel in the 90s that everything had to be turbocharged to they performed like petrol cars - which meant they also used about as much fuel......
A few different manufacturers have done the same "cheat" private tests about a year after the initial scandal, opel/vauxhall's tested found to adopt a similar ecu mode, and mercedes and its only now 2020 mercedes are starting to be held to account for there vehicles Most important thing for a diesel to me is a turbo
what memories , had an ex AA van for 10 years , drove it everywhere every day and it never let me down , 1.6 was better than 1.8 , single timing belt and Bosch injection so we have excellent throttle response , allways thought the 1.8 with CAV had an elastic band between the throttle pedal and the pump!!!! , there was a guy doing kits for the 1.6 to use in marine applications!!!!
2:14 That radio would have been more appropriate to 1974 than 1984. Ford were terrible for fitting cr*p radios in their cars, when a Vauxhall were installing proper stereos with digital tuning.
I had one of the first Fiesta 1.6DL off the line :) Lovely car, but it had a replacement engine within 6 weeks! Some numpty had left a clip off a hose and it overheated within the first 10 miles - replaced under warranty. Lovely car for an 18 year old ;) I then moved to an Escort 1.6D GL - with all the options I could get - champagne gold. I should have got another Fiesta - same engine, but much slower heavier car.
Although the Peugeot looks a bit flimsy it proved to be a very strong and long lasting car i just saw one the other day in traffic, judging from its license plate it was from 1987!
Used to have a Peugeot 205 1.8D as delivery vehicle, the engine was absolutely bomb proof, powerful for its size and very economical. Had over 300k miles still pulling strong, but the chassis rusted away.. :/
1986 Orion MK2 stratos silver 1.6d 850 000km without engine repair. Gearbox and clutch was orginal too. Body was totally end of life and electrics. It was markable car and still carry the key on My keychain. After 600 000 IT needed engine heating in under -5c 😃 At The end 0c was was too cold without electric engine heater
That engine was just about okay in the Fiesta but awful in the bigger Escort and Orion. Learnt to drive in them and even before passing my test found them slow. Put me off diesel for years. Bought a 306 D turbo in the late 90s and couldn't believe the improvements made. Been running a Leon TDI for over 13 years but don't think I'd want to drive one of those 1.6D's again lol
@@peterhealy545 They drove well, but was my first & last French car. Threw a rod on the motorway & needed a recon engine. Replaced it with a MK1 Leon in 2006 & I'm still driving it today.
My cousins other half had a maroon red b reg orion 1.6 diesel for a few months in 1999 covered in dents and only 1 wheel cover left but it kept going.weighed it in for some beer money
Clutching at straws with criticism for the 205 lol. The PSA diesels were miles ahead of anyone else right into the 90s when finally other manufacturers started getting their act together.
Compares Fiesta stats to 205 stats Realises 205 is a better car after bigging up Fiesta for 15 minutes *Let's be positive, it's actually an ally to the diesel cause*😂😂😂
@@TheBlaert Brilliant cars. My friend's dad has a near mint 205 from 1995. It's a turbo diesel, and it's got over 500 000 KMs on it. He has owned it since 1997 I believe. He does however (for the good) maintain it really well, at this rate it could still be on the road in a couple of centuries assuming bullshit emission standards don't get to low...
@@mr.slaphappy3794 I had an old Citroen Synergie MPV with the XUD. We ran it for years on veg oil, I remember taking it about 6-7 years ago from Nottingham to Gt. Yarmouth on £14 worth of Aldi's finest sunflower oil. This was with 3 kids, the missus, the dog, roofbox and a shed load of camping gear on board. It was glacial slow but cheap to run and monumentally reliable. Wish I'd never sold it.
Back in the day these were very good engines, Vauxhall’s also had good Diesel engines in the 80s, to today’s standard they weren’t very refined but they were reliable, with limited things to go wrong. Nowadays they are more refined have turbos and loads of sensors. The problem now there’s much more to go wrong.
Shit slow, noisey, but reliable as possible.I had an Escort Diesel van back in 1992, i was 19 yrs old, but cruised the earth for about 80k miles on a fart and an aspirin.No fault lights to pi55 me off.Cracking vehicle.
this was one of the best engines. It was a Deutz engine. a manufacturer who produced tractorengines. 3.7liter diesel on 60miles or 100km in real. we had a Ford Fiesta with 660 000km. i sold them because of a Porsche 912. I was an Idiot. in the end the car was running 165km/h on straight without problems. with the second clutch.
Lol what? The Orion was literally an escort 4 door with a boot and the fiesta was the first release of the new airo styled generation, the new escort and Orion hadn't came out at this stage, but even so small cars always look different to thier bigger siblings.
@@colinjohnston8519 Don't quite know what you're talking about. Look at the New Fiesta and the New Focus. Hell, even the Ka+. They are all practically the same car.
Had a C reg escort mkIII that prob spent its life as a minicab , Starting was always difficult, changed the glo plugs and it was marginally better, Failed MOT 3 months later on 17 items--was well and truly put off ford diesels--Best ones were the isuzu 1.5 and 1.7s in the novas and corsas, bombproof, quick and easy to maintain
I had an Escort 1.8D 1988 3-doors with lowered suspension and RS alloy wheels. Consumption was 4.2l /100km unbeatable ! But too much rust at the chassis
@@christineayres7094 Petrol cars chuck out similar levels of NOx. The problem isn't the fuel type it's the fact that we're heating a mixture of oxygen and nitrogen. Diesel has been demonised for the benefit of oil companies and governments.
I had the 16d fiesta it was fantastic . At the time the engibe was very refined and I was crying upland fownntge m6 Ellesmere port to Preston 5 days a week. The car could hold its own against 1.8 2.0 petrol engines cars and it never dropped below 56mpg regularly in the 60mpg mark being a student mpg was very important to me . They only car to better it was the 1.7 d in the fiat uno it was more refined than the ford and mire powerful plus the father a manual engine advance for winter mornings The performance on the fiesta was so good they had to use the suspension and anti roll bars off the xr2 . Notice they did not included the fiat because it's two diesel units where much better than any of the others.
I owned an ex police 1994 Escort saloon 1.8 L diesel for a few months. Surprisingly good. It took 6 seconds to fire up and had other faults of a 16 year old car but I was fond of it. Sooo economical. Yes it was slow and the engine was as coarse as a badger's backside but it got me back on the road after 3 months without a car. Comfortable drivers seat too.
I had a 1.6D escort estate back in the late 80s and yes it was slow but it bought it with 65k on the clock and sold it with 410k on it and the only thing it had was a camshaft oil seal and a water pump and it went everywhere on a cup full of fuel i was self employed at the time so having something that was reliable' economical and cheap to maintain was a plus it was just a pity they went rusty ...
Having run 1.6d escorts at work back in the day,I'll say this..slow...great mpg though and reliable ...1.8d... timing belt issues..the last diesel I had was a mk3 vw golf t.d...never again..
I've heard of the Ford 1.6 litre diesel engine. Was this offered here in the USA? I know that Ford did briefly offer the Escort for North American customers. I was way too young to drive at the time.
I wouldn't have thought they'd offer that diesel engine for sale in the states. Waay too slow for the roads over there. The 0 to 60 mph figures they give in this video were complete and utter lies. Much slower than that.
@@TheBlaert I seem to remember the Ford Escort being offered here in the States with a diesel engine back in the early 80s. It didn't sell very well, for obvious reasons.
Quick, quiet, clean! How times have changed. Horrible slug of an engine, but no doubting their durability. Can't judge them by todays standards though, and interesting to see this (presumably) Ford internal video.
Awful. "8 counterbalance weights instead of 4" as if this were a good thing, introducing so much extra rotational mass giving the engine a throttle response last seen in an oil tanker
Love videos like this. 0-60 in 15 seconds is horrendous. 😂😂😂 The best early diesel engines were generally French ones, the XUD PSA engine was a little gem. The ZX Volcane was one of the first small cars I drove with a diesel engine and thought it was as good as any of the petrol variants. Mind you that was nearly ten years after this.
Drove a 1.8D MK3 fiesta van for while many moons ago very economical and reliable, but sounded like a tractor was slow as hell stunk like it was trying to kill you as you drove along even with a brand new exhaust. Would run on old chip fat though so you could smell of fish and chips instead of diesel after a journey.
I really love Fords, but anyway time have shown that Golf mk2 is the best :D The only surviving 80's car (as a daily driver) that you can see on roads today. :)
My dad used to have a mk3 1.6D. That thing had a top speed of 120 KM/h and it took like 30 seconds to get there, but the fuel consumption was crazy good even by today's standards.
Most people purchased a ford under the mentality it is a safe buy because it is a ford, with people mainly stating they are easy to get parts for. In the 80s I had a Yugo Sana, other family members had ford fiesta, Sierra and escort, they regularly had their cars in the garage for alternator's, distributer faults and regular valve clearance adjustments etc, my Yugo had a 1.4 fiat engine, in seven years, it only ever required brake pads tyres and eventually an exhaust, It drove better, was more economical and had more comfortable seats, and cost around half the amount. They all said don't buy a Yugo you can't get the parts, I hardly ever needed parts and the few parts I did where of the shelf so not a problem.
best car diesel engines of 80s and 90s was peugeots xud series diesels and mercedes om series 5 cylinder engines even better if fitted with bosch pump on peugeots
Difference in torque is 29nm but difference in fuel economy is huge Second thing, he said clean and its true. In 80s there was many cars with no catalyst converters which means simple 1.6 diesel was cleaner than petrol engine.
Reliable? Ha! I remember blowing mine up - the cylinder heads on these were notorious for failing. My local ford dealership told me that cylinder heads were a stock item...
With all the unwanted electronic nonsense put into modern cars we are slowly been railroaded to have to go back to the main dealer for everything. More ££££ for them.
@@marcusphoenixish You'd never meet emissions and economy standards without electronics. Never mind the performance and refinement we expect from modern cars. I don't find electronics a problem to be honest. Solid state stuff is extremely reliable in my experience. Actuators and transducers can go bad of course but top tier fuel solves/prevents most issues. Again, this is only my personal experience. I run my cars without recourse to main dealer facilities, though I do have access to local independent specialists that cover both the cars in this household. In this case Mazda and BMW. No mainstream car maker is intentionally going to make things go wrong. The reputation would follow them and that would create immense problems for the brand.
Quick, quiet and clean. Not 3 words I would use to describe 80's diesels.
Slow noisy rattling turd of an engine - I remember having to drive them back in the day - awful
There is no difference in the sound of the petrol and diesel engine tik till tik chuga chug chuga. oh dear
Noisy and extremely slow comes to mind.
Bag of spanners?
Very economical, and over 500,000 miles was possible with 5000 mile oil changes.
The longest survivor of the cars in this film was the Peugeot, last taxed in 2000...( too much time on my hands)
Well done, well done indeed sir
Xud was a far superior engine
Who knew that Peugeot units would power modern Fords and Volvos
All these cars people still driving here in Bosnia. Golf Mk2 1.6D 40kw is absolute hit here and the best csr ever made. They can last long as owner or even longer with proper maintenance. Now Golf Mk4 1.9TDI takes place on road from mk2 but it will never be legend as mk2. I don't like VAG at all but it is fact that their cars are most reliable for lower price here in Europe.
@@armincekric7621 I love VAG.
The best diesel engines are those of the late 90s/early 2000s, when they had high preassure direct injection and turbochargers, but without any DPF or EGR valve to clog up with sot after 100 000 km, setting your car into limp mode only to cost you $3,000 to fix at the dealer.
Absolutely!
Yea 1.9 TDI PD 130 in a Skoda Fabia VRS here: 103k so just run in lol. Goes like stink in midrange and 50mpg and not mapped or anything.
I totally agree. Common rail afterwards good if worked but lots of problems with injectors and fuel pumps.
Better clogging a DPF than clogging our lungs!
Best is a modern twin turbo diesel v6 with the dpf deleted 😂
This guy could sell ice to an eskimo.
Car theft was massive during the 80's,
The only working form of anti theft was the 1.6D written on the back lol
For those interested:
The Fiesta was last taxed until June 1997
The Escort was last taxed until Sept 1997
The Orion was last taxed until October 1993
The Daihatsu was last taxed until May 1992
The Peugeot was last taxed until July 2000
The Cavalier was last taxed until February 1994
The Renault was last taxed until Sept 1994
Couldn't read/find the other car's registrations
I searched for these out of interest, RIP to all these cars.
You're welcome
Well thats a bit of a short life span isnt it
@@seimolddickhead5552 UK roads destroy our cars, practically all cars by 10 years old are showing signs of rust underneath
Very interested thanks bud 👍👍👍👍👍👌
They all rusted away back then. Hard to believe when you expect at least ten rust free years out of a modern car
@@andyboy13100 and the scrappage schemes that people fell for got rid of the rest
Love the dramatic music
This brings back memories. The company my father worked for in the 80's had Orion and Escort diesels and he sometimes borrowed and Orion diesel pool car. I used to the love the clatter and idle and they always had a distinctive smell inside. I purchased C reg Orion diesel on in the late 90's and it still smelt and sounded the same, was also very comfortable but I remember the steering being extremely heavy! I would love another if I could find one.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and that it brought back memories.
Peter Thomson that smell was called cancer
The Presenter of this film is the late actor James Kerry. He starred in many great TV shows of the 60s and 70s including The Saint, Dr Who and General Hospital. He sadly passed away a decade after making this at the age of 57.
My dad did bought a second hand Mk1 Sierra (late one, 1986)........... and after many years, he had sold it with 560,000 km's (interior was desintegrating and last years he used the big trunk to collect spare wood in forrest).
But it had Peugeot 2.3D and the car was made in Belgium.
With European diesel FORD's since Mk 5 Escort 1.8TD, you can literally throw a dice. You either have one great car or total misery on 4 wheels. Like the first Edge design Mondeos ....... many people perfectly happy while many couldn't even start it at +5 degrees of Celsius.
70mpg, and here we are 35 years later STILL struggling to match that!
they werent gutless in their day, but they were anything BUT quiet. we owned them at the time, and i would want another as a second car. sadly theyre very expensive now, for what they are
@ betaman, thanks for posting! I'm a long term fan of the 1.6D, ever since their launch. First one I drove was a nearly new 1986 Escort Combi van 1.6D Popular. It was a company vehicle shared by two of us. Unfortunately in the hands of the girlfriend of the other driver one evening, it lost an argument with a taxi, and that was my 1.6D motoring over, for what at the time I thought would be for ever....
Wind the clock forward a couple of decades or so though, and I am the happy owner of three low mileage examples! I have a 1984 Fiesta L 1.6D, and two Mk4 Escort 1.6Ds. One is a 1986 5 door estate, the other is a 1987 3 door Popular saloon. I never originally planned to have three of them, but they were all too good to miss, and I knew that near mint low mileage examples were not exactly common! Also I just couldn't bear the thought of someone maybe buying them for their shells and sticking in other engines!
Yes the 1.6D isn't the fastest, and yes they are rather agricultural, but so what, they are bullet proof mileage munchers, and that distinctive sound of theirs is fabulous! Doug
it really was a good engine. It had 33.75hp / liter which was very good at that time. Even the last volkswagen SDI (non-turbo diesel) with high pressure PD-injection only had 37.5hp / liter. Most other naturally aspirated diesel engines at that time were worse. The Peugeot XD2 Ford used at that time in other models, only had 29hp/liter.
My grandpa had a fiesta with that engine and never changed the oil until it barely reached 100km/h any more. In the garage then, they realized the problem, changed the oil and it went strong again without any problems. Do this to a modern engine...
Vauxhall Cavalier - here in germany it was called Opel Ascona and I had three of them. Very good and pretty cars!
1.6D bomb proof engine.
Ha, that engine was a bloody good one, we had escort Van's in the 80s, lasted into the early 2000s being thrashed for their whole life by forty maintenance engineers. Mine ( we each had a van but anyone could use it, basically you looked after it) when round the clock 4 times an a bit more, it was still driving as it went to the scrappers!
"There really is no doubt that diesel is the engine of the future."
They'll say the same about electric cars one day!
Ny Sun they’ll be saying the same about teleportation one day!
@@nysun6293 Except that electric cars really are the future. It's just a matter of time before the cost drops by a bit and the public awareness increases, deviating from what I see in today's comment sections full of myths, lies and misconceptions.
If only diesel engines didn't become more complicated in the future not that they were in the 90's anyway.
@@evolt7553except electric cars really shouldnt be the future.its just a big scam.
I had a 1.6D Fiesta around 1988, went to Blackpool for the weekend, overslept on the Sunday & had to get back for a christening in Walsall, drove it flat out all the way back on the M6, 100mph all the way back , my ears were ringing & had white finger by the time I got back lol
This video will self destruct in 10 seconds
Ford Escort 1988 1.6 diesel estate.Best car I ever owned. I drive slowly anyway so speed no problem. Minimum of 50mpg easy to repair and kept going up to 275,000 miles before rust took over. Engine still working great even at that mileage 🙂
I've owned both the 1.6D and 1.8TD Ford and 1.9 XUD and DT engines. The fact I still have a 1998 306 that's still going immensely strong in body and engine, should tell you all you need to know.
I've got a 97 306 dturbo still, ive owned it for 20 years
Jesus these Ford 1.6 diesels were hateful things, great upload B.
I used to drive a Mk2 Fiesta van with the 1.6D, it was a great wee thing, it just ran and ran, it got replaced with a bedford rascal which require way more gearbox rowing while running about industrial estates delivering parts.
Loved these engines in fact as my cars rotted away I kept the engines and gearboxes. The later 1.8s suffered from belt breakages.
I learned to drive in an escort powered by one of these. Clattery & slow, yes, but it managed over 50mpg at a time when diesel was much, much cheaper than petrol was. It was a non-turbo so no fireball to drive, but honestly just for transport it was fine. It wasn't until the mass adoption of diesel in the 90s that everything had to be turbocharged to they performed like petrol cars - which meant they also used about as much fuel......
Best diesel car I had was a 2000 Peugeot 406 estate 2.0 rapier. Loved it. so comfortable with brilliant fuel economy and fantastic ride quality
Quote. "the diesel engine is the engine of the future". Well it was until VW screwed the job up.
Diesel engines are great, no matter what politicians Say. VW did screw up, but that's vws fault, not the engine.
A few different manufacturers have done the same "cheat" private tests about a year after the initial scandal, opel/vauxhall's tested found to adopt a similar ecu mode, and mercedes and its only now 2020 mercedes are starting to be held to account for there vehicles
Most important thing for a diesel to me is a turbo
This was my first car. 5 door silver 1.6d..... laser version lol i loved it
what memories , had an ex AA van for 10 years , drove it everywhere every day and it never let me down , 1.6 was better than 1.8 , single timing belt and Bosch injection so we have excellent throttle response , allways thought the 1.8 with CAV had an elastic band between the throttle pedal and the pump!!!! , there was a guy doing kits for the 1.6 to use in marine applications!!!!
2:14 That radio would have been more appropriate to 1974 than 1984. Ford were terrible for fitting cr*p radios in their cars, when a Vauxhall were installing proper stereos with digital tuning.
They did get better. Later 80s Ford stereos were rebadged blaupunkts
The flashing line is telling you to set the clock. I loved that generation of fiesta , had a 1.3 Ghia
Wasn't that the radio code?
@@Mark-ms5pn he means the line in the left upper corner, it's coming from Vhs recorder
I had one of the first Fiesta 1.6DL off the line :) Lovely car, but it had a replacement engine within 6 weeks! Some numpty had left a clip off a hose and it overheated within the first 10 miles - replaced under warranty. Lovely car for an 18 year old ;) I then moved to an Escort 1.6D GL - with all the options I could get - champagne gold. I should have got another Fiesta - same engine, but much slower heavier car.
Although the Peugeot looks a bit flimsy it proved to be a very strong and long lasting car i just saw one the other day in traffic, judging from its license plate it was from 1987!
There's a 205 near my house from a neighbor
The thing works everyday
@@BavarianM Though car like the 405 & 406
FORD... Fix.Or.Repair.Daily....this guy makes delboy look like a saint 😂
This "Ford" engine was developed by Deutz. It was quite a good one.
Back when diesel fuel was cheaper than petrol in the UK.
It still is in Germany😁
It still should be now.
Still is in Ireland
It still is in Italy
Still is in Portugal
The engine graphics (petrol/diesel) look like they were created on a Commodore Amiga - that classic colour cycling effect!
I would love to have a go on an Amiga right now
Used to have a Peugeot 205 1.8D as delivery vehicle, the engine was absolutely bomb proof, powerful for its size and very economical.
Had over 300k miles still pulling strong, but the chassis rusted away.. :/
I swear all diesel cars sound like a transit van, and the luxury cars sound great but you can still distinctively hear the inner transit van noise.
I love 80s music, its like watching Terminator 1. :)
Love these videos. Looks more like 83-84 on A reg😁
1986 Orion MK2 stratos silver 1.6d 850 000km without engine repair. Gearbox and clutch was orginal too. Body was totally end of life and electrics. It was markable car and still carry the key on My keychain.
After 600 000 IT needed engine heating in under -5c 😃
At The end 0c was was too cold without electric engine heater
Quick? I don’t think so, you need a calendar for the 0-60 time!
I mean no, it's not quick. But is it quiet and clean? Uhm..... well, no.
@@arnemaeschaelck5012 but apart from that!
Why were they not available in a ghia version in the 80s?
That engine was just about okay in the Fiesta but awful in the bigger Escort and Orion. Learnt to drive in them and even before passing my test found them slow. Put me off diesel for years. Bought a 306 D turbo in the late 90s and couldn't believe the improvements made. Been running a Leon TDI for over 13 years but don't think I'd want to drive one of those 1.6D's again lol
306 d turbo all the way brilliant cars I had 2
@@peterhealy545 They drove well, but was my first & last French car. Threw a rod on the motorway & needed a recon engine. Replaced it with a MK1 Leon in 2006 & I'm still driving it today.
I've still got a 97 306 dturbo, ive owned it for 20 years
205s had amazing rust proofing. The fiesta would have rotted away in a few years whereas the 205 would go on forever
Pugs were galvanized!
Most Peugeots don't rust
Did these tapes come direct from the ford vault or are old dealership tapes?
My cousins other half had a maroon red b reg orion 1.6 diesel for a few months in 1999 covered in dents and only 1 wheel cover left but it kept going.weighed it in for some beer money
They're far better than the modern diesels of today with DPF's fitted.
Set the VCR time. Line will stop flashing....
Or turn off on screen display (OSD)
Clutching at straws with criticism for the 205 lol. The PSA diesels were miles ahead of anyone else right into the 90s when finally other manufacturers started getting their act together.
Yes, the XUD engine was way ahead.
Compares Fiesta stats to 205 stats
Realises 205 is a better car after bigging up Fiesta for 15 minutes
*Let's be positive, it's actually an ally to the diesel cause*😂😂😂
I had a 205 diesel for years. Fantastic cars. If they weren't so expensive nowadays I'd buy one for going to work in a heartbeat
@@TheBlaert Brilliant cars. My friend's dad has a near mint 205 from 1995. It's a turbo diesel, and it's got over 500 000 KMs on it. He has owned it since 1997 I believe. He does however (for the good) maintain it really well, at this rate it could still be on the road in a couple of centuries assuming bullshit emission standards don't get to low...
@@mr.slaphappy3794 I had an old Citroen Synergie MPV with the XUD. We ran it for years on veg oil, I remember taking it about 6-7 years ago from Nottingham to Gt. Yarmouth on £14 worth of Aldi's finest sunflower oil. This was with 3 kids, the missus, the dog, roofbox and a shed load of camping gear on board. It was glacial slow but cheap to run and monumentally reliable. Wish I'd never sold it.
Back in the day these were very good engines, Vauxhall’s also had good Diesel engines in the 80s, to today’s standard they weren’t very refined but they were reliable, with limited things to go wrong. Nowadays they are more refined have turbos and loads of sensors. The problem now there’s much more to go wrong.
I'll happily take a Mondeo 1.8 TD than a modern day car.
Plus they'd run on veg oil.
I think you simply need to set the clock on your VHS player to get rid of the white bar. However, you may have figured this out by now.
@ betaman, the flashing line is because the time is not set. If you do so, it will go
away!
I know and whats really sad/annoying is that I don't have the remote and it seems that its needed to do that.
Oh I wonder who makes the modern Ford diesels oh yes PSA!
Psa is very good
@@BavarianM yes I know my smax 2.2 is psa.
Shit slow, noisey, but reliable as possible.I had an Escort Diesel van back in 1992, i was 19 yrs old, but cruised the earth for about 80k miles on a fart and an aspirin.No fault lights to pi55 me off.Cracking vehicle.
Had the old 1.8 Diesel without turbo ... biggest pile of crap ever bought.
I sold that shit for 500 bucks. Still felt like I robbed the guy.
We have escort in Brazil i droved it's a great car
this was one of the best engines. It was a Deutz engine. a manufacturer who produced tractorengines. 3.7liter diesel on 60miles or 100km in real.
we had a Ford Fiesta with 660 000km. i sold them because of a Porsche 912. I was an Idiot. in the end the car was running 165km/h on straight without problems. with the second clutch.
3 Models of cars that all have their own design. Where has this time gone
Lol what? The Orion was literally an escort 4 door with a boot and the fiesta was the first release of the new airo styled generation, the new escort and Orion hadn't came out at this stage, but even so small cars always look different to thier bigger siblings.
@@colinjohnston8519 Don't quite know what you're talking about. Look at the New Fiesta and the New Focus. Hell, even the Ka+. They are all practically the same car.
Had a C reg escort mkIII that prob spent its life as a minicab , Starting was always difficult, changed the glo plugs and it was marginally better, Failed MOT 3 months later on 17 items--was well and truly put off ford diesels--Best ones were the isuzu 1.5 and 1.7s in the novas and corsas, bombproof, quick and easy to maintain
In the real world the 0-60 mph time was about 20 seconds. On a slight incline it could take over half a minute.
17-18 second
P.S at 4.18 is misleading. This was not a direct injection engine!
This engine was indirect injection as was it's 1.8D replacement in 1988
If the guy is praising the unique qualities of those engines I can not imagine how diesels were before these new engines.
Great engine..mine did 475000 miles .
Set up your time in your VHS, the flashing will stop and it will hide.
Had 50hp so nippy enough in the Fiesta...about same as 1.1 petrol but you got a 5speed box with the Diesel.
I had an Escort 1.8D 1988 3-doors with lowered suspension and RS alloy wheels. Consumption was 4.2l /100km unbeatable ! But too much rust at the chassis
Diesel cleaner lmao 😂
You're not old enough to understand ...I understand.
@yossarian Lol 😂 but still the Fumes from diesel are much more dangerous the Nox gases cause lung cancer
@@christineayres7094 Petrol cars chuck out similar levels of NOx. The problem isn't the fuel type it's the fact that we're heating a mixture of oxygen and nitrogen. Diesel has been demonised for the benefit of oil companies and governments.
I had the 16d fiesta it was fantastic . At the time the engibe was very refined and I was crying upland fownntge m6 Ellesmere port to Preston 5 days a week. The car could hold its own against 1.8 2.0 petrol engines cars and it never dropped below 56mpg regularly in the 60mpg mark being a student mpg was very important to me . They only car to better it was the 1.7 d in the fiat uno it was more refined than the ford and mire powerful plus the father a manual engine advance for winter mornings
The performance on the fiesta was so good they had to use the suspension and anti roll bars off the xr2 .
Notice they did not included the fiat because it's two diesel units where much better than any of the others.
I can remember not many bloody petrol Ford's starting in th morning!!!
My dad had brand new company escort van in 1984 he said it went like fk still talks about it to this day
I owned an ex police 1994 Escort saloon 1.8 L diesel for a few months. Surprisingly good. It took 6 seconds to fire up and had other faults of a 16 year old car but I was fond of it. Sooo economical. Yes it was slow and the engine was as coarse as a badger's backside but it got me back on the road after 3 months without a car. Comfortable drivers seat too.
Matt the Council Estate Capitalist my mum had an ex police Fiesta 1.8D. L reg. didn’t wanna start. Didn’t wanna stop. Around 65mpg on a run. Amazing.
I had a 1.6D escort estate back in the late 80s and yes it was slow but it bought it with 65k on the clock and sold it with 410k on it and the only thing it had was a camshaft oil seal and a water pump and it went everywhere on a cup full of fuel i was self employed at the time so having something that was reliable' economical and cheap to maintain was a plus it was just a pity they went rusty ...
80s diesels used to emit huge clouds of black smoke!
Having run 1.6d escorts at work back in the day,I'll say this..slow...great mpg though and reliable ...1.8d... timing belt issues..the last diesel I had was a mk3 vw golf t.d...never again..
agreed. the 1.6d NEVER snapped timing belts! mind you, i saw very few 1.8s snap belts either in the dealership i worked in
10:35 Wow.. Only 1,20 pound less on a full tank? Was roadtax so cheap then that you should consider a diesel?
Well it was less money for more miles
I've heard of the Ford 1.6 litre diesel engine. Was this offered here in the USA? I know that Ford did briefly offer the Escort for North American customers. I was way too young to drive at the time.
I wouldn't have thought they'd offer that diesel engine for sale in the states. Waay too slow for the roads over there. The 0 to 60 mph figures they give in this video were complete and utter lies. Much slower than that.
@@TheBlaert I seem to remember the Ford Escort being offered here in the States with a diesel engine back in the early 80s. It didn't sell very well, for obvious reasons.
Quick, quiet, clean! How times have changed. Horrible slug of an engine, but no doubting their durability. Can't judge them by todays standards though, and interesting to see this (presumably) Ford internal video.
Intro music?
Cavalier in Brazil it's Caled 'Monza'
Jesus they were a nasty slow heap of an engine
Awful. "8 counterbalance weights instead of 4" as if this were a good thing, introducing so much extra rotational mass giving the engine a throttle response last seen in an oil tanker
Would love to own one of them as a daily🙏🏼
Aaaaaaaargh! Set the damned clock on the VCR!!!
Love videos like this. 0-60 in 15 seconds is horrendous. 😂😂😂 The best early diesel engines were generally French ones, the XUD PSA engine was a little gem. The ZX Volcane was one of the first small cars I drove with a diesel engine and thought it was as good as any of the petrol variants. Mind you that was nearly ten years after this.
Drove a 1.8D MK3 fiesta van for while many moons ago very economical and reliable, but sounded like a tractor was slow as hell stunk like it was trying to kill you as you drove along even with a brand new exhaust.
Would run on old chip fat though so you could smell of fish and chips instead of diesel after a journey.
I really love Fords, but anyway time have shown that Golf mk2 is the best :D
The only surviving 80's car (as a daily driver) that you can see on roads today. :)
My daily driver is a 1972 Hillman Avenger!
Plenty of 205s left too
@@TheBlaert In our country climate and road conditions are so rough, that even stones turn to dust. :D
That's thanks to the scrappage scheme just search on TH-cam for the airfields full of retro cars that were getting stripped
My dad used to have a mk3 1.6D. That thing had a top speed of 120 KM/h and it took like 30 seconds to get there, but the fuel consumption was crazy good even by today's standards.
Yeah the golf from my experience was always better built than the escort and had a much longer life...
The arrogance is the most amazing thing about this :P
But what about the rust??!??!?!
Most people purchased a ford under the mentality it is a safe buy because it is a ford, with people mainly stating they are easy to get parts for. In the 80s I had a Yugo Sana, other family members had ford fiesta, Sierra and escort, they regularly had their cars in the garage for alternator's, distributer faults and regular valve clearance adjustments etc, my Yugo had a 1.4 fiat engine, in seven years, it only ever required brake pads tyres and eventually an exhaust, It drove better, was more economical and had more comfortable seats, and cost around half the amount. They all said don't buy a Yugo you can't get the parts, I hardly ever needed parts and the few parts I did where of the shelf so not a problem.
best car diesel engines of 80s and 90s was peugeots xud series diesels and mercedes om series 5 cylinder engines even better if fitted with bosch pump on peugeots
Try finding an empty road these days!
"It delivers maximum torque at only 3,000RPM"
Ford 1.6D: 95N.m at 3,000RPM
Ford 1.6 carburetted: 124N.m at 3,000RPM
Yes, great.
Difference in torque is 29nm but difference in fuel economy is huge
Second thing, he said clean and its true.
In 80s there was many cars with no catalyst converters which means simple 1.6 diesel was cleaner than petrol engine.
Karol Pawlik carburetor was the reason for pollution, not no cat.
la Ford orion 1.8D GHIA 1990 THE BEST CAR
The price of diesel back then, around 38p a litre! £1.73 a gallon!
Reliable? Ha! I remember blowing mine up - the cylinder heads on these were notorious for failing. My local ford dealership told me that cylinder heads were a stock item...
If only today's diesels were so simple, we're going backwards.
yep addblue, egr, dpf, total nightmare .
@@davebalfour5229 I've been driving DPF cars since 2005, the first of which was a 2002 Peugeot 406 HDi. So far I've had no operating issues.
With all the unwanted electronic nonsense put into modern cars we are slowly been railroaded to have to go back to the main dealer for everything. More ££££ for them.
@@marcusphoenixish You'd never meet emissions and economy standards without electronics. Never mind the performance and refinement we expect from modern cars.
I don't find electronics a problem to be honest. Solid state stuff is extremely reliable in my experience. Actuators and transducers can go bad of course but top tier fuel solves/prevents most issues.
Again, this is only my personal experience.
I run my cars without recourse to main dealer facilities, though I do have access to local independent specialists that cover both the cars in this household. In this case Mazda and BMW.
No mainstream car maker is intentionally going to make things go wrong. The reputation would follow them and that would create immense problems for the brand.
Didn't want to set your clock...? :-P
16.4 seconds to get to 60....fucking hell hahahahah