I was on Fin for 11 years. 1 mg 3 x a week. Around year 11 I started to notice my hair thinning again over about at 12 month period of time. I switched to Dutasteride .5 mg 3x a week and it stopped my thinning. I’ve never had any negative side effects from either medication
Over 92% of people who used it over 10 years not only did they mentain but even improved throughout all 10 years. 99% of people had no visual loss whatsoever. Finasteride is pretty much good anyone expect some rare cases. If u started early as a norwood 2-3 then rejoy cause its shown to work even better then higher norwoods.
100% true ! Finasteride by itself should he enough. And if you started at Norwood 3.5 (borderline Norwood 4) or Norwood 5 etc... then you can just add dutasteride once or twice a day on top of your finasteride to make 100% sure you will maintain/ regrow your hair over the next 10 years and even beyond. About the same side effects profil between fin and dut anyway so why not combine both in that specific case .
@@exactly1176 I ve yet to start dut since min/fin/needling and topical caffeine has been working for me just great. But if i ever need it i know I can just take it few times per week or even daily to bump up the 5ar inhibition.
Bro i am norwood 3 very thinned hair, doctor prescribed me recently I am not using as it contains side effects, I am only 25 recovered from lot of heart palpitations and stress please give me suggestion
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *Finasteride has been effective for almost 10 years but now seems to be less effective.* 00:15 *Concerns about finasteride's long-term ability to maintain hair.* 00:28 *Shout-out to sponsor Go Fiber for masking thinning or patchy areas.* 00:40 *Finasteride doesn't stop working; it suppresses DHT by 70%.* 01:07 *Stopping finasteride worsens hair loss drastically.* 01:48 *Study shows switching to placebo from finasteride results in significant hair loss.* 02:26 *Studies indicate finasteride can be effective for 1 to 10 years.* 02:55 *Two-year study shows continuous improvement in hair for both years.* 03:08 *Five-year study on Korean men shows 85.7% improved hair density.* 04:03 *Greatest stabilization of hair loss observed after the first year of finasteride use.* 04:58 *Diffuse hair loss type group showed the most progression post-peak improvement.* 05:12 *No hair loss worsening in Norwood 1 to 4 categories after peak improvement.* 05:55 *Patients over 30 had better long-term hair regrowth with finasteride.* 06:23 *Ten-year study on Japanese men shows continuous hair improvement for lower Norwood categories.* 07:05 *Finasteride may be less effective in regions with higher rates of early hair loss onset.* 07:45 *Higher rates of early onset hair loss in the US, UK, Canada, etc.* 08:12 *Median age differences imply Japan has fewer early balding men compared to the US.* 09:50 *Rapid hair loss progression and high testosterone levels can impact finasteride efficacy.* 10:59 *Increased popularity of fitness and substances like creatine and steroids contribute to higher DHT levels and hair loss.* Made with HARPA AI
Im 31 years of age and was a Norwood 6 I had a transplant about 3 months ago 4500 grafts which was around 11000 hairs and have started finasteride and have had no negative side effects so far.
I've been on finasteride for 14 months already with good results. But just to play it safe : 3 weeks ago I started dutasteride at 0.5mg twice a week (on Sunday and Wednesday I take dutasteride) and I take finasteride 1mg the rest of the week . Note that I'm also on topical minoxidil. No side effects whatsoever since I added dutasteride ! Better than that : my libido actually increased by a lot since I started dutasteride (the increase of testosterone I guess). It's also known that dutasteride has more or less the same side effects profil as finasteride so why not use it on top of finasteride for longer maintenance / better long term regrowth.
I have also been on fin for 14 months with good results and thinking of adding dut at the 2 year mark, I've heard some bad things about dutasteride side effects tho if fin starts loosing it's potency I'll definitely have to take the risk
@pablogats4627 " I've heard some bad things about dutasteride side effects " . ---> this doesn't mean anything (aside from being some fear mongering you find on the internet / nocebo effect). I would advice you to just look at the scientific date regarding dutasteride and you will see that dutasteride side effects profil is basically the same as finasteride despite blocking more serum DHT (which is very interesting). Also, the scientific data shows that for those getting side effects on dutasteride, the side effects will disappear on their own with continued use of dutasteride after 6 months of use. So basically : even if you are in the very small minority getting sides from dutasteride, just keep taking the drug and 6 months later you won't have sides anymore as your body will get used to it. Just read the science and forget about everything else. :)
@pablogats4627 yeah it's definitely a good idea to wait 2 years on finasteride before adding dutasteride once or twice a week on top of finasteride. I personally could have been waiting until 2 years but since i wanted to boost my regrowth and since I understood that dutasteride is basically as safe as finasteride : I decided to just add dutasteride to my stack right away just to have my peace of mind and make sure I get much more regrowth / better long term results. Edit : adding dutasteride is not always necessary though. Most people will be okay with just finasteride ! As long as you've got enough regrowth/ maintenance with finasteride only and you are satisfied with that : then i think there is just no need to add dutasteride anyway 😉
One thing few people talk about is that for many guys, hair loss stabilizes in their late 20s-early 30s. And, many men that start to lose their hair don't go fully bald. Some just end up as NW 2/3 or above. They do not get the shiny dome. I'll give an example. Me and my brother both noticed that our hair lines were receding at age 18. We are five years apart. I did natural treatments until the age of 22, when I noticed diffuse thinning, and hopped on the meds. My brother did nothing. Zero. At age 35 I've pretty much gone bald at the top of my head. I have a hair line that is NW 2.5, but my hair is super diffuse on top. So, I have chosen to accepted baldness. My brother, who did nothing, is 40 and is a NW 3 at worst, with dense hair everywhere, except his temples. I was a diffuse thinner with fine but voluminous hair, whereas he only ever receded, and his individual hairs were much thicker than mine. Our father, who is in his mid-60, is a NW 1 with black hair still! But his brother, our uncle, went NW 7 by his late-20s and white in his early-40s. Their father, my grandfather, also went bald in his 20s. Thus, it is all genetics, and if someone is keeping their hair on fin/min/keto/rolling, it is hard to pinpoint what precisely is playing the most massive role in keeping their hair, as the hair loss may have somewhat or fully stabilized on its own. If you look at videos from that hair transplant doctor on TH-cam ,Gary Linkov, he mentions that in his practice, he notices that hair loss often stabilizes on its own in many patients in their late 20s. It is all about the genetic predisposition to DHT/androgen sensitivity. Since each case is so different, it is a bit hard to pull out conclusions set in stone by studies, but they are the best scientific facts we have on hand.
@@LVHooper saw palmetto, zinc supplementation, green tea, pumpkin seed oil, edamame, stuff like that. I went all out with the zinc, green tea, and pumpkin seeds, but did not see great benefits.
What is your grade of baldness at 35? What are the changes you seen when you was 22 to 35.. Is your hair extremely thin? I didn’t understand NW stnds for😑
@@kenzmd4469 NW stands for Norwood, it is a balding scale. Since I'm a diffuse thinner, let just say that the scale does not apply to me. I'm pretty much very close to being totally bald. I have very thin hair, in the normal top region. At 22, I had slight recession, but was had thin hair on top. This was not noticeable to anyone, visually, even thought I could tell a big difference between ages 20 and 23.
I think when you're experiencing a considerable level of hair at a young age (NW4+ in your 20s) you've already lost a good portion of your hair. Even the hairs that appear "Healthy" are miniaturising, a lot of damage has already been done without you even realising it. Whereas if you start at a Norwood 2-3 then a lot of those hair follicles are still in top form, and are less vulnerable to the residual DHT. Also, many guys that are Norwood 2-3s may not actually be balding as aggressively as anticipated, perhaps they wouldn't have lost much more hair even if they weren't on the medical route to begin with. My uncle was a NW 2-3 in his early 20s and is around a Norwood 3 with slight diffuse (only noticeable under harsh lighting) thinning at 60 and I think many young men who notice hairloss are in the same club
A large number of men dont go fully bald, while 50% of men notice some form of hairloss by the time they are 50, that doesnt mean half of all 50 year olds are completely bald. I know many people in my family that receeded troughout their 20s and then one day it suddenly stopped and they kept a norwood2.5 or 3 for the rest of their life with otherwise thick hair on top
@@Bartholome3101 agreed, but I’am already on dutasteride which is i don’t need later because i feel my hair is thick and healthy after good hair wash, 25 years old and have some Grey as well :)
Been on Fin since 1999 so wow.. 24 years already. No problem. Still works as a charm. And yes I have been stupid and twice over the years stopping it and then the hair loss continued again so it’s not that I have so called stabilized myself.
From my own experience, finasteride starting to loose his power after 2 years and after like 1 year i was back to what i had before started to using finesteride. Then i started dutasteride and now i am 1 year on it, so far so good, seems balding didn't progress further.
So 1 year un u got all the results then declined to after 2 years little loss so dutasteride fixed it? I added dutasteride 4x/week 1st 2x then 3x EOD once om put of fin supply I'll do dutasteride every day why not seems better after on 1 year dutasteride did it get back alot better??
@@hadhad129 2 years after started using it i noticed i was loosing more hair, and after additional 1 year i got worse than 1 year before. so in total after 3 years of Finasteride i jumped on dutasteride, i didn't get amazing effects from Dutasteride but i believe i recovered just a little bit but most importantly stopped progress
Importatnt to notice i was using micro needling when i started Finasteride and stopped it in the second year, which also might be the reason i lost some gains i had with it.
@@DTOLL9000 Well, its stable, nothing changed much. Most important for me is to keep it stable. I dont think it was a shed. After starting finasterida i had gains, then after 2 years i noticed its getting worst slowly, then hopped on duta and all is stable now so far.
Was on Finasteride and had severe erectile dysfunction.. stopped hair loss but did not regrow hair that much I switched to Dutasteride .. on it 7 months and my crown is now almost 80% covered … very noticeable growth And my woody Johnny is as strong as I used to feel when I was in teens. It’s wierd.. I am 58.. happiest and most confident I have been in 20 years.. all caps will be destroyed s
Matt, your hair only seems to be improving. I think it would look really good if you grew it a bit long and parted in the middle like Bradley cooper! That hairstyle looks great with a dense Norwood 1.5-2 such as you.
It's still working for me after 3.5 years. My temples thickened up because I no longer have to style my hair a certain way to hide thinning. My forelock is slightly worse though.
There is something that makes the follicles less sensitive to dht? I see little concern about making the follicles more resistant. It's like it's all dht's fault.
Brah, who takes 10g of Creatine per day geez, yes creatine increases testosterone levels , but you still can take some at a normal dose. 10g is insanely high , I been taking creatine and finasteride for a year. 1mg fin and 2g creatine when I workout so 6g per week. I increased my muscle mass and still have my hair
How much creatine to take per day to protect your hair is a whole another topic. Many supplements advise 5g creatine/day which is still super high. What you are using is very optimal. I use 1.5-2g myself on the work out days
I never saw any good results. I took it for two years and it seemed like more hair fell out. I stopped it about 3 months ago slowly in stages and just went to anti inflammatory vitamins and shampoos and my hair stopped falling out as much. I'm 42 and I don't think I will bother with it again. Same thing happened whenever It took Minoxidel at 24. The places I put it my hair fell out faster and never grew back. I stopped and after a few years thought "Lets try it again." and again, the same thing, more hair fell out, none grew back or made my hair thicker and once I stopped it had done more damage than before, same with PRP. I will do one small transplant on my slightly receeding temples and part of the top of my head and see what happens next. The medical stuff did nothing for me.
@@mobpsycho5207 The shedding phase never ended for me. It just kept happening. I am convinced that had I not used any products I would not have a massive bald patch on my crown now and just be thin, cause everywhere else I did not use anything 20 years after I first noticed and started using this stuff is fine.
@@khalid40867 I first used minoxidel for about 2-3 years when I first started to notice my thinning crown. It did nothing and made it worse so I stopped. A few more years passed where I thought "Lets try it again and maybe this time it will work." Tried it for about another 2 -3 years and the little hair I had left on my crown was gone. Stopped completely since then, nothing came back. About 2 years later, went on Finasteride to see if it would bring back what I lost, again, nothing new and shedding for two years, and then my temples were going. Stopped about 2 months ago, and so has my shedding as I now stick with vitamins and anti inflammation shampoos.
I think the reason guys with less hair loss (lower Norwood) responded better is they are less prone to hair loss genetically. Their hair loss isn't as aggressive, so the drug has less to do to stabilize them. The observation in the study about guys over 30 having better results makes sense too. If we have two Norwood 3 guys, one is 20 and the other 30, I'd bet the 30 year old has better long term results with finasteride. His hair loss isn't as aggressive. A bit of DHT reduction is all he needs because his follicles aren't as sensitive as the 20 year old's.
I dont know why I still taking finasteride because my hairloss is stable and no sign of further or getting worse (no agressive) since it started 11 years ago. I have been using finasteride 5 months and see no a bit result. Do you think its unnecessary for me?
So am i right to assume the earlier you get on finasteride the better? so a 20/21 year old getting on finasteride will keep more of their hair by the time they are 40 compared to if they started finasteride at 30/31?
I've started Finasteride Accord (at least that's what i found in Bulgaria that says that helps with hair). Already 3 months on it. First month i've notice low libido and i lost the morning wood, but with time i've started expirience diarehia. So, right now my side effects are decrease on semen + a bit low libido and diarehia. Is there a way at least to avoid the diarehia? Or it will stop with time? Right now i'm taking Finasteride 1 mg, 1 hour before eating.
Matt, can you explain what Ivan Rakitic does to retain his hairline throughout the years? When it's dry, it looks so full and thick while when it's wet, it shows his hair line receding.
Is finasteride not working for me? 1.5 years ago i started topical finasteride, 1 month ago i switched to oral because my hairline was still receding. yet i still don't see any sign of stabilisation in the hairline. what should i do?
@@kiralypayne3106 Side effects only occur in about 2-4% of takers. 1% doesn’t respond, and it works for 95% of us. It’s pretty successful and safe for most people and hairloss only worsens if you don’t treat it. Better to start now than later. Also, studies show side effects go away if you stop taking it. So, anything seem abnormal, just stop taking it and consider something else like Minoxidil, Ketoconazole, RU1885, or Pylirutimide if you’re willing to really gamble
10:50 damage is accumulative. I think suppression of DHT slows miniaturization , but it (DHT) still accumulates (and miniaturization continues). This explains why taking 5AR blocks works better in people who start sooner and why hair loss continues after using 5AR inhibitors better than androgen receptor susceptibility or elevated hormone levels.
Got a question here in my country theres no 1mg finasteride only 5mg can I split the pill i asked a dermatologist and she told me its fine but i wanna hear from u guys since u have experience with it
Since no one else responded then I will. I have heard of quartering a Proscar tablet and taking the 1.25 mg piece every day. Check out Kevin at “Haircafe” youtube channel and he explains how that is okay and works well.
Classic mistake to think it's not working at 8 months. For most people it takes about 12 to 14 months to just notice some results and sometimes up to 24 months. You've got to be patient mate. 8 months is nothing. Also don't forget that most of the time you will only see maintenance on finasteride (not regrowth) but if you just got maintenance between month 14 to 24 : just take it as a victory. Again : patience is key. Don't give up and never stop the treatment
@@exactly1176 hey man, I have seen your others comments on this channel and they gave me hope, I just started taking oral fin and topical min a few days ago and I’m just hopeful it will work for me, can you tell me more about your experience? By the way I’m 21
@@devilstyle1161 You are right that women who are still able to get pregnant should take spironolactone instead of finasteride. But older women can take finasteride.
Hello Matt, i have 5mg proscar and i want to quarter it and take 1,25 mg, do you think its better start every other day and if i will be withous sides, go to everyday? I wanna give a fin a shot, but im stiĺ kinda scared becouse of peoples stories on reddit etc... I bought and take it strong saw palmetto, and take about 1600 mg daiĺy, i know its not the same but do you think that i have bigger chance that i will be okay on fin, becouse i have no sides on saw palmetto? Becouse some people report sides even on saw pallmeto, some of them PFS, maybe they just too sensitive to 5ari.
I started with 1.25mg at the beginning of April 2024, 2 days yes, 1 day off... Same with 5mg Proscar, quarter it. Haven't seen any results so far, but also no side effects so it's all good. I think I need to stick with the drug for at least 6 months to see any results.. Have you started taking it or did you stick with saw palmetto?
I've been using dutasteride (Avodart) since I was 28 I'm 42 now and it's still working, I would like to get a HT soon though not sure which clinic to use in Turkey yet.
Finasteride it's a treatment that you do forever, it will never lose effect, what may happen is the baldness become more aggressive, which is normal with the age.
Contact Matt he will help with clinic selection As I've seen both HLC clinic And Now hair time have great results Im telling this cause i researched a little before you Not ad or anything cause im about to get my ht in the near future
@@abdulmajeedal-hadeethi458 yes I will book with Matt very soon, just waiting to see what happens after that awful earthquake in Turkey and Syria, peace to all .
Curious if you’ve had kids during this time? I’m in a long term relationship I’m 27 we have a son , and wouldn’t mind another child but can fin etc cause birth defects?
@midnightdragon8812 There's no connection between males taking Finasteride and birth defects. Women who are past their first trimester of pregnancy are encouraged to not take any drugs that could affect hormone balance.
Hi Matt, Is it pointless for defuse pattern sufferers? I have really good and thick hair on my temples with no recession, I’ve never really fitted in to the Norwood scale, I am a defuse thinner on scalp. I’ve recently had HT from a reputable clinic in London and I’m on finasteride 1mg daily. I’m only 2 months in and you can imagine things are looking pretty dreadful at this stage, but the hope is there for the coming months. But watching this and some other videos, I’m fearing that my defuse pattern might not work with HT and Fin, or am I just paranoid?
If its a reputable clinic, I wouldn't worry. Finasteride works with any kind of androgenic alopecia. Finally, if you can afford it, consider buying some pyralutamide for more protection.
Hey Matt, many times you say that you need medication after ai hair transplant. But normally the transplanted hair shouldn't fall out, right? Or are their studies saying something different? I am asking because I am using already dutasteride and obviously it isn't working on my hair, still losing it... So the transplant would be my next move, but if I lose my transplanted hair as well, than it would be for nothing, cause medication is not working on me
There is 1 study Steve. The 4 year follow up grading of hair loss after FUT showed moderate reduction in transplanted hair density in 55.35%, slightly reduced density in 27.67% greatly reduced in 8.03% and no change in the density in 8.92% subjects. 112 subjects evaluated. Among 112 subjects, 82 (73.21%) continued using minoxidil and 40 (35.71%) continued using finasteride at the end of 4 years of surgery.
@@sagarbadiger5554so if our follicles are sensitive to dht but were using finasteride, will heavy weight training not affect my hair loss anymore since im using finasteride?
Is 1 mg of fin a day over kill? I started the second I noticed my crown thinning, it wasn’t much. The thinning was the size of a quarter maybe a little bigger.
This is insane; 22 years old and guys in the comment are reporting severe hair loss. You got unlucky with the hair lottery. I am more than double the age of many of the guys here and my hairline has not changed since my twenties. My father and grandfathers all had full heads of hair. So this is another problem, if you guys started on Fin like at age 19 or 22, then you are screwed down the line in your older years. You will eventually go bald, nothing will stop that. But it if you go on Fin like at 50 or 60, and you are NW 1, then expect to have a full attractive head of hair into your golden years, and maybe even until you die.
@@artkelartttkel2504nobody cares abour your ghetto doctor charging 800€ for a transplant. Hes probably putting anus hairs on your head, thats why its so cheap. Good luck with that
Propecia is a scam, just buy generic finasteride, it will be far less than 30 a month. Any good hair transplant doctor will make you take fin before and after your transplant anyway.
@@milenavidmar2733 i am worried that if i start now after 5 years its result reduced to 64 percent and i am 20 rn so i am thinking to wait 2 3 years am i right or should i start from today
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Matt, you keep using dermapen?
Sir can we use 5mg for hair loss?
I was on Fin for 11 years. 1 mg 3 x a week. Around year 11 I started to notice my hair thinning again over about at 12 month period of time. I switched to Dutasteride .5 mg 3x a week and it stopped my thinning. I’ve never had any negative side effects from either medication
Did you noticed any hair thickening with Dutasteride? Also, did you switch cold turkey from one medicine to the other? Thank you
Who is that guy on your pic?!😂
@@bangbob673 lol
Got my hair transplant in November last year and dutasteride is what my clinic provides me no side effects so I'll be sticking with dutasteride
How much money did you spent on fin in 11 years?
I’ve been on finasteride for over 14 years. And it still works
Bro tell me plz u telling truth
@@scott9352 ok bro what your condition now
@@ffidsalelowprice6066 went from diffuse thinning and balding spot to good growth and no bald spot still maintaining
@@scott9352are you on just finestride or other stuff?
How old were u when u started taking fin?😮
Over 92% of people who used it over 10 years not only did they mentain but even improved throughout all 10 years. 99% of people had no visual loss whatsoever. Finasteride is pretty much good anyone expect some rare cases. If u started early as a norwood 2-3 then rejoy cause its shown to work even better then higher norwoods.
100% true ! Finasteride by itself should he enough.
And if you started at Norwood 3.5 (borderline Norwood 4) or Norwood 5 etc... then you can just add dutasteride once or twice a day on top of your finasteride to make 100% sure you will maintain/ regrow your hair over the next 10 years and even beyond.
About the same side effects profil between fin and dut anyway so why not combine both in that specific case .
@@exactly1176 we meet again fellow slaphead curse fighter.
@@akilbarboni4198 we will fight this curse until we die !!!! Lmao
@@exactly1176 I ve yet to start dut since min/fin/needling and topical caffeine has been working for me just great. But if i ever need it i know I can just take it few times per week or even daily to bump up the 5ar inhibition.
Bro i am norwood 3 very thinned hair, doctor prescribed me recently I am not using as it contains side effects, I am only 25 recovered from lot of heart palpitations and stress please give me suggestion
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00 *Finasteride has been effective for almost 10 years but now seems to be less effective.*
00:15 *Concerns about finasteride's long-term ability to maintain hair.*
00:28 *Shout-out to sponsor Go Fiber for masking thinning or patchy areas.*
00:40 *Finasteride doesn't stop working; it suppresses DHT by 70%.*
01:07 *Stopping finasteride worsens hair loss drastically.*
01:48 *Study shows switching to placebo from finasteride results in significant hair loss.*
02:26 *Studies indicate finasteride can be effective for 1 to 10 years.*
02:55 *Two-year study shows continuous improvement in hair for both years.*
03:08 *Five-year study on Korean men shows 85.7% improved hair density.*
04:03 *Greatest stabilization of hair loss observed after the first year of finasteride use.*
04:58 *Diffuse hair loss type group showed the most progression post-peak improvement.*
05:12 *No hair loss worsening in Norwood 1 to 4 categories after peak improvement.*
05:55 *Patients over 30 had better long-term hair regrowth with finasteride.*
06:23 *Ten-year study on Japanese men shows continuous hair improvement for lower Norwood categories.*
07:05 *Finasteride may be less effective in regions with higher rates of early hair loss onset.*
07:45 *Higher rates of early onset hair loss in the US, UK, Canada, etc.*
08:12 *Median age differences imply Japan has fewer early balding men compared to the US.*
09:50 *Rapid hair loss progression and high testosterone levels can impact finasteride efficacy.*
10:59 *Increased popularity of fitness and substances like creatine and steroids contribute to higher DHT levels and hair loss.*
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Im 31 years of age and was a Norwood 6 I had a transplant about 3 months ago 4500 grafts which was around 11000 hairs and have started finasteride and have had no negative side effects so far.
How is it going ?
Damn, a norwood 6 loooool
I've been on finasteride for 14 months already with good results.
But just to play it safe : 3 weeks ago I started dutasteride at 0.5mg twice a week (on Sunday and Wednesday I take dutasteride) and I take finasteride 1mg the rest of the week .
Note that I'm also on topical minoxidil.
No side effects whatsoever since I added dutasteride ! Better than that : my libido actually increased by a lot since I started dutasteride (the increase of testosterone I guess).
It's also known that dutasteride has more or less the same side effects profil as finasteride so why not use it on top of finasteride for longer maintenance / better long term regrowth.
I have also been on fin for 14 months with good results and thinking of adding dut at the 2 year mark, I've heard some bad things about dutasteride side effects tho if fin starts loosing it's potency I'll definitely have to take the risk
@pablogats4627 " I've heard some bad things about dutasteride side effects " .
---> this doesn't mean anything (aside from being some fear mongering you find on the internet / nocebo effect).
I would advice you to just look at the scientific date regarding dutasteride and you will see that dutasteride side effects profil is basically the same as finasteride despite blocking more serum DHT (which is very interesting).
Also, the scientific data shows that for those getting side effects on dutasteride, the side effects will disappear on their own with continued use of dutasteride after 6 months of use. So basically : even if you are in the very small minority getting sides from dutasteride, just keep taking the drug and 6 months later you won't have sides anymore as your body will get used to it.
Just read the science and forget about everything else. :)
@pablogats4627 yeah it's definitely a good idea to wait 2 years on finasteride before adding dutasteride once or twice a week on top of finasteride. I personally could have been waiting until 2 years but since i wanted to boost my regrowth and since I understood that dutasteride is basically as safe as finasteride : I decided to just add dutasteride to my stack right away just to have my peace of mind and make sure I get much more regrowth / better long term results.
Edit : adding dutasteride is not always necessary though. Most people will be okay with just finasteride ! As long as you've got enough regrowth/ maintenance with finasteride only and you are satisfied with that : then i think there is just no need to add dutasteride anyway 😉
@@exactly1176 fin/dut crew is here!
Your Norwood now?
One thing few people talk about is that for many guys, hair loss stabilizes in their late 20s-early 30s. And, many men that start to lose their hair don't go fully bald. Some just end up as NW 2/3 or above. They do not get the shiny dome.
I'll give an example. Me and my brother both noticed that our hair lines were receding at age 18. We are five years apart. I did natural treatments until the age of 22, when I noticed diffuse thinning, and hopped on the meds. My brother did nothing. Zero. At age 35 I've pretty much gone bald at the top of my head. I have a hair line that is NW 2.5, but my hair is super diffuse on top. So, I have chosen to accepted baldness. My brother, who did nothing, is 40 and is a NW 3 at worst, with dense hair everywhere, except his temples. I was a diffuse thinner with fine but voluminous hair, whereas he only ever receded, and his individual hairs were much thicker than mine. Our father, who is in his mid-60, is a NW 1 with black hair still! But his brother, our uncle, went NW 7 by his late-20s and white in his early-40s. Their father, my grandfather, also went bald in his 20s.
Thus, it is all genetics, and if someone is keeping their hair on fin/min/keto/rolling, it is hard to pinpoint what precisely is playing the most massive role in keeping their hair, as the hair loss may have somewhat or fully stabilized on its own. If you look at videos from that hair transplant doctor on TH-cam ,Gary Linkov, he mentions that in his practice, he notices that hair loss often stabilizes on its own in many patients in their late 20s. It is all about the genetic predisposition to DHT/androgen sensitivity. Since each case is so different, it is a bit hard to pull out conclusions set in stone by studies, but they are the best scientific facts we have on hand.
What natural treatments did you use?
@@LVHooper saw palmetto, zinc supplementation, green tea, pumpkin seed oil, edamame, stuff like that. I went all out with the zinc, green tea, and pumpkin seeds, but did not see great benefits.
Did you take finasteride 1mg daily from 22-35?
What is your grade of baldness at 35?
What are the changes you seen when you was 22 to 35.. Is your hair extremely thin?
I didn’t understand NW stnds for😑
@@kenzmd4469 NW stands for Norwood, it is a balding scale. Since I'm a diffuse thinner, let just say that the scale does not apply to me. I'm pretty much very close to being totally bald. I have very thin hair, in the normal top region. At 22, I had slight recession, but was had thin hair on top. This was not noticeable to anyone, visually, even thought I could tell a big difference between ages 20 and 23.
I think when you're experiencing a considerable level of hair at a young age (NW4+ in your 20s) you've already lost a good portion of your hair. Even the hairs that appear "Healthy" are miniaturising, a lot of damage has already been done without you even realising it. Whereas if you start at a Norwood 2-3 then a lot of those hair follicles are still in top form, and are less vulnerable to the residual DHT. Also, many guys that are Norwood 2-3s may not actually be balding as aggressively as anticipated, perhaps they wouldn't have lost much more hair even if they weren't on the medical route to begin with. My uncle was a NW 2-3 in his early 20s and is around a Norwood 3 with slight diffuse (only noticeable under harsh lighting) thinning at 60 and I think many young men who notice hairloss are in the same club
A large number of men dont go fully bald, while 50% of men notice some form of hairloss by the time they are 50, that doesnt mean half of all 50 year olds are completely bald. I know many people in my family that receeded troughout their 20s and then one day it suddenly stopped and they kept a norwood2.5 or 3 for the rest of their life with otherwise thick hair on top
I used it for 20 years until it stopped working. I'm taking dutasteride now.
How long have you been on dutasteride? And how does it affect your libido?
@@JoeyHern increased libido in my case (since I added dutasteride) . Pretty happy with that ! Haha
It doesn’t « stop working » you aga is just getting stronger over time. Dutasteride is a great choice.
@@Bartholome3101 agreed, but I’am already on dutasteride which is i don’t need later because i feel my hair is thick and healthy after good hair wash, 25 years old and have some Grey as well :)
@@TekkenLegacy-gamex don’t worry dude, freshly 26 here and also on dut to avoid this scenario. Wish you good hair for the rest of your life!
Been on Fin since 1999 so wow.. 24 years already. No problem. Still works as a charm.
And yes I have been stupid and twice over the years stopping it and then the hair loss continued again so it’s not that I have so called stabilized myself.
You are only using fin ?? Or something more
@@SAGARKUMAR-pm6vl no just fin. And trying to keep my scalp healthy avoiding any products that could irritate it
@@litjellyfish oo I want to use fin ... what should be the best starting dose ...I want to take your suggestion
@@SAGARKUMAR-pm6vl 1 mg
What is your dosage regimen?
From my own experience, finasteride starting to loose his power after 2 years and after like 1 year i was back to what i had before started to using finesteride. Then i started dutasteride and now i am 1 year on it, so far so good, seems balding didn't progress further.
So 1 year un u got all the results then declined to after 2 years little loss so dutasteride fixed it?
I added dutasteride 4x/week 1st 2x then 3x EOD once om put of fin supply I'll do dutasteride every day why not seems better after on 1 year dutasteride did it get back alot better??
@@hadhad129 2 years after started using it i noticed i was loosing more hair, and after additional 1 year i got worse than 1 year before. so in total after 3 years of Finasteride i jumped on dutasteride, i didn't get amazing effects from Dutasteride but i believe i recovered just a little bit but most importantly stopped progress
Importatnt to notice i was using micro needling when i started Finasteride and stopped it in the second year, which also might be the reason i lost some gains i had with it.
How is your hair now? I had a shed 3 years in but recovered most of it back. You might have just had a shed?
@@DTOLL9000 Well, its stable, nothing changed much. Most important for me is to keep it stable. I dont think it was a shed. After starting finasterida i had gains, then after 2 years i noticed its getting worst slowly, then hopped on duta and all is stable now so far.
i want to take it but it gives me horrible side effects. watching my hair going is another pain but there's nothing i can do
what kind of side effects has it given you? I virtually have none outside of water semen.
have you considered smth like pyrilutamide
You could maybe try topical 0.001 you cannot have side effects from 0.1mg topical
@@mobpsycho5207 no didn't try that
@@jojoanimations3 depression and sexual side effects. depression was worse than the sexual sides
I wonder if these studies ever included or took into account the other things in the big 4 like Minoxidil , micro-needling, Ketoconazole shampoo.
Was on Finasteride and had severe erectile dysfunction.. stopped hair loss but did not regrow hair that much
I switched to Dutasteride .. on it 7 months and my crown is now almost 80% covered … very noticeable growth And my woody Johnny is as strong as I used to feel when I was in teens. It’s wierd.. I am 58.. happiest and most confident I have been in 20 years.. all caps will be destroyed s
Matt, your hair only seems to be improving. I think it would look really good if you grew it a bit long and parted in the middle like Bradley cooper! That hairstyle looks great with a dense Norwood 1.5-2 such as you.
And it can hide some forehead 😂
@@H.E.M. he doesn’t need to hide forehead man. People in the hairless community get hair dysphoria but his forehead looks perfectly fine.
It's still working for me after 3.5 years. My temples thickened up because I no longer have to style my hair a certain way to hide thinning. My forelock is slightly worse though.
There is something that makes the follicles less sensitive to dht? I see little concern about making the follicles more resistant. It's like it's all dht's fault.
That would be the true balding cure if they could figure out how to do that.
Yes there is: Spironolactone
Gene editing would cure baldness
@@da4441
Is that true?
Nevertheless, you'll grow Breast too, so probably not worth it
Excellent video Matt!
Great video 👍 is there a difference between taking fin. At the morning or evening?
Does not matter.
Then if finasteride stopped working for me after years will dutasteride be a good solution?
Brah, who takes 10g of Creatine per day geez, yes creatine increases testosterone levels , but you still can take some at a normal dose.
10g is insanely high , I been taking creatine and finasteride for a year. 1mg fin and 2g creatine when I workout so 6g per week. I increased my muscle mass and still have my hair
How much creatine to take per day to protect your hair is a whole another topic. Many supplements advise 5g creatine/day which is still super high. What you are using is very optimal. I use 1.5-2g myself on the work out days
I never saw any good results. I took it for two years and it seemed like more hair fell out. I stopped it about 3 months ago slowly in stages and just went to anti inflammatory vitamins and shampoos and my hair stopped falling out as much. I'm 42 and I don't think I will bother with it again. Same thing happened whenever It took Minoxidel at 24. The places I put it my hair fell out faster and never grew back. I stopped and after a few years thought "Lets try it again." and again, the same thing, more hair fell out, none grew back or made my hair thicker and once I stopped it had done more damage than before, same with PRP. I will do one small transplant on my slightly receeding temples and part of the top of my head and see what happens next. The medical stuff did nothing for me.
there is a shedding phase involved in almost every product which can last up to a few months idk
@@mobpsycho5207 The shedding phase never ended for me. It just kept happening. I am convinced that had I not used any products I would not have a massive bald patch on my crown now and just be thin, cause everywhere else I did not use anything 20 years after I first noticed and started using this stuff is fine.
@@gutz1982 no. If you’d stuck with the treatments your hair would 100% be better than it is now.
@@gutz1982 How long were you using minoxidil and finateride. I am 20 and thinking about using it since I am starting to have thinning hair
@@khalid40867 I first used minoxidel for about 2-3 years when I first started to notice my thinning crown. It did nothing and made it worse so I stopped. A few more years passed where I thought "Lets try it again and maybe this time it will work." Tried it for about another 2 -3 years and the little hair I had left on my crown was gone. Stopped completely since then, nothing came back. About 2 years later, went on Finasteride to see if it would bring back what I lost, again, nothing new and shedding for two years, and then my temples were going. Stopped about 2 months ago, and so has my shedding as I now stick with vitamins and anti inflammation shampoos.
I think the reason guys with less hair loss (lower Norwood) responded better is they are less prone to hair loss genetically. Their hair loss isn't as aggressive, so the drug has less to do to stabilize them.
The observation in the study about guys over 30 having better results makes sense too. If we have two Norwood 3 guys, one is 20 and the other 30, I'd bet the 30 year old has better long term results with finasteride. His hair loss isn't as aggressive. A bit of DHT reduction is all he needs because his follicles aren't as sensitive as the 20 year old's.
I dont know why I still taking finasteride because my hairloss is stable and no sign of further or getting worse (no agressive) since it started 11 years ago. I have been using finasteride 5 months and see no a bit result. Do you think its unnecessary for me?
I don't think so, the 10-year study says that age has nothing to do with it
If I can keep my hair till 50 with fin and min I’ll be happy. 27 right now, just started.
How’s it going?
Same, everyone looks uglier at 50 anyway, I won't care as much about being bald at that age.
So am i right to assume the earlier you get on finasteride the better? so a 20/21 year old getting on finasteride will keep more of their hair by the time they are 40 compared to if they started finasteride at 30/31?
Yes. By your mid 20s you start to lose it. So if you start before the mid-20s, you can keep what you got then longer.
That 30 percent dht still made isn’t scalp dht
I've started Finasteride Accord (at least that's what i found in Bulgaria that says that helps with hair). Already 3 months on it. First month i've notice low libido and i lost the morning wood, but with time i've started expirience diarehia. So, right now my side effects are decrease on semen + a bit low libido and diarehia. Is there a way at least to avoid the diarehia? Or it will stop with time? Right now i'm taking Finasteride 1 mg, 1 hour before eating.
Just wear a diaper.
@@TheFreshestLyrics after dinner not on empty stomach
Try reducing the dose
Matt you helped me a lot and I switched to dutasteride because of one of your videos.. thank you sir
Matt, can you explain what Ivan Rakitic does to retain his hairline throughout the years? When it's dry, it looks so full and thick while when it's wet, it shows his hair line receding.
Lionel Messi used to apply 1ml of his semen to his scalp daily.
Probably hair fibers
Is finasteride not working for me? 1.5 years ago i started topical finasteride, 1 month ago i switched to oral because my hairline was still receding. yet i still don't see any sign of stabilisation in the hairline. what should i do?
Looking at your vids, it seems you have a mature hairline. I don't see any thinning at all.
Your hair looks thick af
Are you still on topical finasteride?was it similar efficacy as oral? And are there any updates on your oral min
I would like to know too.. 🤗
One of the charts near the beginning of the vid show topical finasteride was not as effective as oral but still grew hairs.
Topical finasteride is just a placebo it doesn't work
Im on fin and also take creatine monohydrate. Am i right to assume that this will increase DHT on my hair?
yep, creatine increases the DHT count,. i took it for a while and made my hair fall as f
Yup I started taking creatine too and I noticed way more hair loss
Is a dose of 0.5mg of Finasterida every other day good with a Norwood 2 at my age of 35 my alopecia is weak btw
Should be ok
It saved my hair but lost my sex drive.
That’s good
Doesn’t sound worth it to me lol
@@nomo4u886 a mixed bag lol
@@kiralypayne3106 Side effects only occur in about 2-4% of takers. 1% doesn’t respond, and it works for 95% of us.
It’s pretty successful and safe for most people and hairloss only worsens if you don’t treat it. Better to start now than later.
Also, studies show side effects go away if you stop taking it. So, anything seem abnormal, just stop taking it and consider something else like Minoxidil, Ketoconazole, RU1885, or Pylirutimide if you’re willing to really gamble
Not only sex drive.. drive is not only sexual.
Men are in general more goal oriented and go out to do battles that is dht
China has two bars 07:25. Why is that?
If this bloke goes bold game over for his channel
I stopped because me and my lady want kids 6 months now my hair is stabiele not falling out after 14 years of use i hope it stays
just started finasteride at between nw4 and nw5 diffuse thinning with retrograde pray for me
Im only a norwood 2. Im hopeful i get get back a good but of what ive lost and keep it
Norwood 2 doesn’t even look that bad imo as long as you’ve got good density, don’t sweat it
@@youtubeman2001 it looks much better now
nw 1 now?@@veilmontTV
@@veilmontTVHow much fin and how often?
@@NMEofdaST8 1.25 mg a day. Quarter of a proscar a day. I'm still getting hair back
Hey Matt, any updates on cloning and dr. tsuji. Thanks for the content!
Finstride can be work on life time ?????
10:50 damage is accumulative. I think suppression of DHT slows miniaturization , but it (DHT) still accumulates (and miniaturization continues). This explains why taking 5AR blocks works better in people who start sooner and why hair loss continues after using 5AR inhibitors better than androgen receptor susceptibility or elevated hormone levels.
What are 5 AR blocks
@@johncatalano71015 Alpha Reductase
Stop lying. You have no idea what you are saying.
Matt can u do a same study on dutasterside and when should one switch from dut to fin ?
Got a question here in my country theres no 1mg finasteride only 5mg can I split the pill i asked a dermatologist and she told me its fine but i wanna hear from u guys since u have experience with it
Since no one else responded then I will. I have heard of quartering a Proscar tablet and taking the 1.25 mg piece every day. Check out Kevin at “Haircafe” youtube channel and he explains how that is okay and works well.
yes, absolutely. Also. how's finasteride working for u after all this time?
Is there another shedding phase after 1 year use of xyon finastride?
I am using it again since 8 months gave it a second try, but i feel like its not working, any suggestions?
Classic mistake to think it's not working at 8 months. For most people it takes about 12 to 14 months to just notice some results and sometimes up to 24 months.
You've got to be patient mate. 8 months is nothing.
Also don't forget that most of the time you will only see maintenance on finasteride (not regrowth) but if you just got maintenance between month 14 to 24 : just take it as a victory.
Again : patience is key. Don't give up and never stop the treatment
@@exactly1176 hey man, I have seen your others comments on this channel and they gave me hope, I just started taking oral fin and topical min a few days ago and I’m just hopeful it will work for me, can you tell me more about your experience? By the way I’m 21
What is proper dose of Finasteride for post menopausal women? 5 mg per day. Or 2.5 mg per day?
Try spirolactone. Finasteride isnt recommended for women
@@devilstyle1161 You are right that women who are still able to get pregnant should take spironolactone instead of finasteride. But older women can take finasteride.
Hello Matt, i have 5mg proscar and i want to quarter it and take 1,25 mg, do you think its better start every other day and if i will be withous sides,
go to everyday? I wanna give a fin a shot, but im stiĺ kinda scared becouse of peoples stories on reddit etc... I bought and take it strong saw palmetto, and take about 1600 mg daiĺy, i know its not the same but do you think that i have bigger chance that i will be okay on fin, becouse i have no sides on saw palmetto? Becouse some people report sides even on saw pallmeto, some of them PFS, maybe they just too sensitive to 5ari.
I started with 1.25mg at the beginning of April 2024, 2 days yes, 1 day off... Same with 5mg Proscar, quarter it.
Haven't seen any results so far, but also no side effects so it's all good. I think I need to stick with the drug for at least 6 months to see any results..
Have you started taking it or did you stick with saw palmetto?
@@neometalx9 im on finasteride daily, also quarted 5mg pill, i had hair transplant and i started fin after
This kinda got me scared lol I’m on oral min and fin you think I stopped my hair loss or is it still getting worse you think
Idk about creatine dude, i dont think it increases scalp dht
I've been using dutasteride (Avodart) since I was 28 I'm 42 now and it's still working, I would like to get a HT soon though not sure which clinic to use in Turkey yet.
Finasteride it's a treatment that you do forever, it will never lose effect, what may happen is the baldness become more aggressive, which is normal with the age.
Contact Matt he will help with clinic selection
As I've seen both HLC clinic
And Now hair time have great results
Im telling this cause i researched a little before you
Not ad or anything cause im about to get my ht in the near future
@@abdulmajeedal-hadeethi458 yes I will book with Matt very soon, just waiting to see what happens after that awful earthquake in Turkey and Syria, peace to all .
Curious if you’ve had kids during this time? I’m in a long term relationship I’m 27 we have a son , and wouldn’t mind another child but can fin etc cause birth defects?
@midnightdragon8812 There's no connection between males taking Finasteride and birth defects. Women who are past their first trimester of pregnancy are encouraged to not take any drugs that could affect hormone balance.
This is why I don't take creatine
Hi bro, what is your hair loss routine now
Should i be taking 1mg every day if i am slightly thinning on temples?
Neither Fina or Mjnoxidil help with temporal recession but you will keep the rest of your hair with them
Bro im loosing back of my head, donor area i dont know whats is this
Has anyone here had the experience of having a baby while taking dutasteride or finasteride?
Is the baby healthy?
Make video on your hair condition
soon!
So creatine increases DHT and therefore my Hairloss also when i take finasterid daily ?
If you use creatine in combination with fin you hair growth will increase.
increase? shoulndt the creative rise the DHT levels and increase the loss?@@TheFreshestLyrics
Hi Matt,
Is it pointless for defuse pattern sufferers? I have really good and thick hair on my temples with no recession, I’ve never really fitted in to the Norwood scale, I am a defuse thinner on scalp.
I’ve recently had HT from a reputable clinic in London and I’m on finasteride 1mg daily. I’m only 2 months in and you can imagine things are looking pretty dreadful at this stage, but the hope is there for the coming months. But watching this and some other videos, I’m fearing that my defuse pattern might not work with HT and Fin, or am I just paranoid?
You are paranoid. If you aren not too far gone finasteride should help you out fine.
If its a reputable clinic, I wouldn't worry. Finasteride works with any kind of androgenic alopecia. Finally, if you can afford it, consider buying some pyralutamide for more protection.
If I stop it for couple of months and resume it;will finesteride once again become effective as it used to be before?
Please reply brother
you found anything on this?
Trump is a good example. 30 years on it and he obviously has less hair then in 1996 but still maintains hair overall.
Hey Matt, many times you say that you need medication after ai hair transplant. But normally the transplanted hair shouldn't fall out, right? Or are their studies saying something different? I am asking because I am using already dutasteride and obviously it isn't working on my hair, still losing it... So the transplant would be my next move, but if I lose my transplanted hair as well, than it would be for nothing, cause medication is not working on me
There is 1 study Steve. The 4 year follow up grading of hair loss after FUT showed moderate reduction in transplanted hair density in 55.35%, slightly reduced density in 27.67% greatly reduced in 8.03% and no change in the density in 8.92% subjects. 112 subjects evaluated. Among 112 subjects, 82 (73.21%) continued using minoxidil and 40 (35.71%) continued using finasteride at the end of 4 years of surgery.
If i stop fenastaride and lose hair and start it again will i regain lost hair
I do light workout at home , is that fine , or does it aggravate my hair loss?
So, is it advised to stop working out to stop hair loss ?
That’s crazy
@@laxjs yes, that's true , heavy resistance raining may increase hair fall , only if our follicles is prone to damage due to Dht.
@@sagarbadiger5554so if our follicles are sensitive to dht but were using finasteride, will heavy weight training not affect my hair loss anymore since im using finasteride?
If it's light workout it's fine
Is 1 mg of fin a day over kill? I started the second I noticed my crown thinning, it wasn’t much. The thinning was the size of a quarter maybe a little bigger.
How’s your hair now? :)
@@Heehawheehawheehaw full head of hair, people don’t believe me when I tell them I was thinning.
Do you still consume finas n apply minox?
Trägst du deine Haare nach links? Falls ja mach es mal andersrum dann wirkt es dichter. Nach links stellen sich die Wurzeln eher auf
Start with dutasteride only
This is insane; 22 years old and guys in the comment are reporting severe hair loss. You got unlucky with the hair lottery. I am more than double the age of many of the guys here and my hairline has not changed since my twenties. My father and grandfathers all had full heads of hair.
So this is another problem, if you guys started on Fin like at age 19 or 22, then you are screwed down the line in your older years. You will eventually go bald, nothing will stop that. But it if you go on Fin like at 50 or 60, and you are NW 1, then expect to have a full attractive head of hair into your golden years, and maybe even until you die.
matt, im a long time fan 3+ years and uve been making the same video over and over again, it's getting stale tbh
any good companies that sell Dutasteride?
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30 dollars for 1 month 360 dollars per year 3600 dollar for decade. You can get 4 hair transplant in Turkey with this money
Do you know good clinics? I think it depends of the donor area swell, maybe fin has benefits before going for hair transplant?
@@GermoStaalfeldt doctor Yılmaz is the best
Many people have DUPA diffuse balding, transplanta don't help much because the grafts even from the back of the head with DUPA are poor
@@artkelartttkel2504nobody cares abour your ghetto doctor charging 800€ for a transplant. Hes probably putting anus hairs on your head, thats why its so cheap.
Good luck with that
Propecia is a scam, just buy generic finasteride, it will be far less than 30 a month. Any good hair transplant doctor will make you take fin before and after your transplant anyway.
Does finastride lose it power
No it doesnt. Start taking it and fight dht asap
@@milenavidmar2733 i am worried that if i start now after 5 years its result reduced to 64 percent and i am 20 rn so i am thinking to wait 2 3 years am i right or should i start from today
CAN I MIX FINASTERIDE WITH STEMYXEDINE ? PLEASE ANYONE THAT CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION! I'M NOT SURE IF STYMOXEDINE IS AN EFFECTIVE SOLVANT!
You can also right down with small letters my friend ! 😉
Haha
YES YOU CAN
@@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH HAHA I REALLY NEEDED AN ANSWER