..and now Chrysler is recalling 1.1+ million vehicles that are sold with this shift mechanism. Theyre adding some further safety mechanism to keep car from rolling. Seemed like a bad idea all along.
These shifters are a pain in the ass for us technicians at dealerships. It won't let you shut the engine off in neutral, so you have to put it in park when you're trying to position the hoist arms under the car. So if the car is slightly too forward or rearward to hoist up, you gotta get back in, start it and drive it a few inches and try again. It also won't let you out of park unless the engine is running. Not a problem for some people, but it is kinda stupid in my opinion.
Have this shifter in my 2013 JV Edition....My only advice is to make sure you look at the cluster to make sure you're in reverse instead of park or neutral, in drive instead of reverse or neutral, in neutral instead of reverse or drive.Might feel like you shifted in the correct gear, but most times you're not.Can be annoying, but I prefer a shifter instead of that rotary thing on the 2015's and up.I just like to have my hand on a shifter when I'm driving....personal preference
I just saw the light jump from neutral to Park without signaling that the gears went through the reverse gear between neutral and park. This is bad considering most people consider the reverse between Park and neutral as a safety to making sure people don't accidentally put it in neutral when they mean to place it in Park. On a more responsible design it takes a conscientious second action to ensure a person is aware they are taking the vehicle out of park or conversely to ensure it is in park without question.
Some of you people don't realize that the transmissions in these cars (8 speed) are very reliable sine ZF makes them. Do some research and you will see the point I am making.
I rented a 300 couple weeks back, and personally found it pretty simple to use... I didn't find myself checking too see which gear I was in...pretty normal... And over the two days, I don't recall having been in a gear I didn't plan to be in. One thing though, I didn't know what this "S" next to drive stood for or how to engage it. This video doesn't even mention it!
Chrysler just issued a recall on the 2013-2014 electronic shifter. It pops out of park. The recall says to always set the parking brake when the car is in park and the engine is running. They don't have a fix, but are working on one. I have a 2014 and have had it pop out if park into reverse. I thought it was how I was working the shifter. Guess not.
I always have to look to make sure in R, if I don't I'll b in Park thinking I'm about to back up, then I gotta do it all over again lol, other than that I luv my 2013 300 Motown edition
Lmao same here Maurice. Idk how many times ive gone to back up only to rev the engine because its in park hahahaha glad im not the only one! I just have a base model the motown edition is where its at! Im a whiteboy btw still love the car
I don't believe it pops out of gear but sometimes you dont know what position it is in if you arent paying attention to the selector indicator. I hope they dont change it to that stupid dial they are now using. I already dont like it that I can't really shift it.
+Mike1967b I actually think it's nicer in some ways than the mechanical type. I wonder what demographic is failing to use it correctly? It doesn't seem that difficult, just different. A story also mentioned people getting out of the cars with the engine still running, which brings up another bad habit of excessive idling.
+Geo TI like this design, I find it very easy to use, I can find the gear I want without even looking, like you said it is just different but adapting to it took no time at all.
If people cant realize if their car in P or not, they shouldnt drive at all seriously .I am not even asking where these injuries happened, I really dont think these happened in Europe.
Agreed. I recently rented a 300 with that shifter, and it was unbelievably dreadful. A normal gated shifter is so mindlessly easy to use that I'm shocked that anyone would switch to such a clusterfork of horrendously bad engineering. This wasn't a minor foible that I could put up with if I owned the car; that shifter literally ruined the whole car. They couldn't pay me to own a car like that.
i have one of this piece of shity shift.. In case of engine not start, how I will move shifter to N position for moving car manually? if any one know please?!!
Should be in the owners manual, the Jeeps have a cord in the center console to pull, it is hidden beneath a trim piece where the top is hinged to the console itself may or may not be the same on Chrysler and Dodge.
Let us see: 7am shift to R and then to D. 730am shift to P. 5pm shift to R and then to D. 540pm shift to P. Repeat 5 times and 2 times on the weekend. You shift 42 times a week touching it 28 times. Total time 2 minutes of touching the shifter per week. If you can't get it, then get off the road and ride a bike!
i have it on my 2014 charger was able to get used to it in a week idk why everyone is saying you dont know what gear your in no offence but is it really that hard lol it jerks backward a little when in reverse just like any other car and dose the same when you put it in drive jerking forward that is.
And now Chrysler opps! Fiat is now recalling this awful design gearshift due to people not putting it in park correctly. I work at a rental car company and I always hated this stupid shifter. And now the new ones have that dumb knob that the 200s and jeeps use. They can't the just use the regular design that the Dodge chargers and Challengers use?
People are so accustomed to pressed the shifter button to shift from any gear into any other gear that they'll have a hard time comprehending when to press and when not to press the shift button in order to achieve the desired gear.
What is the point of this design? Why not keep the mechanical gear shift that is simple to use and that everyone has committed to memory? From the news reports Ive been reading there have already been a lot of crashes when people exit their vehicle thinking it is in park but it isn't. Another awful design from Chrysler!
how exactly does one do that though? I agree its stupid but i think these drivers (ive seen it on the news allso) may be perhaps a bit thick in the head? i know if my car is still in gear it moves before i can even open the door.
+MrGOLDENSHOT25 you state "how exactly does one do that though? I agree its stupid but i think these drivers (ive seen it on the news allso) may be perhaps a bit thick in the head? i know if my car is still in gear it moves before i can even open the door".No we are not dummies, the shifter is moved to Park but REMAINS in Reverse ! The driver thinks the shifter is in Park, but is not. Since this has happened to me a number of times I thought I did not engage the shifter correctly. But when it happened again I discovered that some electrical bug initiates and causes the following to take place. The rear camera does not show the rear view behind the car, in the Infotainment screen, as it normally does when actually shifting to Reverse. Any dummy would realize the shifter is in Reverse, if the rear view illuminated in the Infotainment screen when the e-shifter malfunctions....But it Does Not. And another failsafe also occurs, when the motor is running, as in this situation opening the drive door normally a warning {Ringing Chimes} initiates. But no Chimes when the bug initiates. So who is the DUMMY....................Chrysler. They now have created a double FAILSAFE issue ! I'm sure they are aware of what I have stated, but are doing noting about,. It only involves 2 model years 2013 and 2014. After only 2 years Chrysler changed the e-shift to a ROTARY dial..................does that tell you anything ????
I'm not saying it is a good design, I'm just saying it like I see it based on what the news has shown me and what I have read. my door chime was unplugged by me so that if I wreck I wont have a ptsd episode when I hear one. I do see how one can get used to the rear camera engaging and subconsciously adapt to it meaning the car Is in reverse, but it still should not be the only indication to the driver. and again, it is a new car it should start pulling as soon as you foot is off the brake. I wont defend Chrysler (I really don't like their cars) but the calls I have seen for a recall seem like another step in the direction of the nanny state which I do not approve of. if you have been harmed by this silly design then I am sorry, but it is the drivers responsibility to pay 100% attention to their surroundings. a car can only be blamed for so much. if it makes you feel better I have the same opinion about the gm faulty ignition that caused wrecks. my car has died 5 times and every time I still manage to stop it safely instead of hitting a tree or another vehicle. sorry.
Smh it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist to know how to shift a gear lever... If you're that stuck on stupid then just simply count the clicks when shifting in your head and if that's still too hard to comprehend the all together just get you an older car.. Problem solved.
You MUST look at the display otherwise sooner or later you're going to slam into something behind or in front of you. Hold the lever for a microsecond too long and it skips to the next gear. An idiot designed this!!! Nice car otherwise. -- 2013 300
Horrible design. What ever happened to traditional automatic shifters? Slide it forward or back to change gears, and the gear is clearly seen next to the shift knob. This whole thing with electronic switches is ridiculous. Something like a transmission should always be more physical and less electronic... I'm not only blaming Fiat-Chrysler for these bad designs, but all OEMs who adopt it.. This is why I will always buy an old car...
Smh it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist to know how to shift a gear lever... If you're that stuck on stupid then just simply count the clicks when shifting in your head and if that's still too hard to comprehend the all together just get you an older car.. Problem solved.
+sm0kiin You've obviously never used one of these. It doesn't click in each gear position. It just has forward and back. It's an oversized up and down button.
+Sadpants McGee I wouldn't have made that comment if I never used one smart guy... It's not hard like I said before yall make it much more difficult than what it is.
sm0kiin You said "count the clicks when shifting." If you've ever used one of these, you'd know there are no clicks when shifting. It's just an oversized electronic up/down switch.
+Sadpants McGee My shifter clicks at reverse and neutral. I don't even look at the display or shifter anymore I can feel by the clicks what gear I'm in.
Probably the only thing about my 2012 300 that I could do without. I wish it had the normal shifter like the SRT does.
I actually find this shifter very easy to use and easier to clean the area around it.
..and now Chrysler is recalling 1.1+ million vehicles that are sold with this shift mechanism. Theyre adding some further safety mechanism to keep car from rolling.
Seemed like a bad idea all along.
I love my Crystler 300 ❤❤💖💖❤ easy to drive pretty Awesome to look at very nice car a Ive had it for 2 yrs an no problems with shift😀
Christina G nice :)
These shifters are a pain in the ass for us technicians at dealerships. It won't let you shut the engine off in neutral, so you have to put it in park when you're trying to position the hoist arms under the car. So if the car is slightly too forward or rearward to hoist up, you gotta get back in, start it and drive it a few inches and try again. It also won't let you out of park unless the engine is running. Not a problem for some people, but it is kinda stupid in my opinion.
I have one on my Chrysler 300s 2014 and once you get used to it it's no big deal
Have this shifter in my 2013 JV Edition....My only advice is to make sure you look at the cluster to make sure you're in reverse instead of park or neutral, in drive instead of reverse or neutral, in neutral instead of reverse or drive.Might feel like you shifted in the correct gear, but most times you're not.Can be annoying, but I prefer a shifter instead of that rotary thing on the 2015's and up.I just like to have my hand on a shifter when I'm driving....personal preference
Exactly why I’m looking for a 2014 300s
I just saw the light jump from neutral to Park without signaling that the gears went through the reverse gear between neutral and park. This is bad considering most people consider the reverse between Park and neutral as a safety to making sure people don't accidentally put it in neutral when they mean to place it in Park. On a more responsible design it takes a conscientious second action to ensure a person is aware they are taking the vehicle out of park or conversely to ensure it is in park without question.
I have a 2012 300 that was given to me by Aunt and I have to get use to the gear shifter!
Some of you people don't realize that the transmissions in these cars (8 speed) are very reliable sine ZF makes them. Do some research and you will see the point I am making.
I rented a 300 couple weeks back, and personally found it pretty simple to use... I didn't find myself checking too see which gear I was in...pretty normal... And over the two days, I don't recall having been in a gear I didn't plan to be in. One thing though, I didn't know what this "S" next to drive stood for or how to engage it. This video doesn't even mention it!
It's for sport mode... I think...
I'll keep my shifter with the numbers and a R. Thank you.
Chrysler just issued a recall on the 2013-2014 electronic shifter. It pops out of park. The recall says to always set the parking brake when the car is in park and the engine is running. They don't have a fix, but are working on one. I have a 2014 and have had it pop out if park into reverse. I thought it was how I was working the shifter. Guess not.
driver error...it does not move out of park by itself...
I always have to look to make sure in R, if I don't I'll b in Park thinking I'm about to back up, then I gotta do it all over again lol, other than that I luv my 2013 300 Motown edition
Lmao same here Maurice. Idk how many times ive gone to back up only to rev the engine because its in park hahahaha glad im not the only one! I just have a base model the motown edition is where its at! Im a whiteboy btw still love the car
@@XBLHAX I have a 2012 Chrysler 300 limited edition and that thing even have heated and cool cupholders
The v8 models don't feature this since they have the 5 speed Mercedes transmission which doesn't come with this.
Thanks to god.
so do I depress the break pedal or not?
You have to
Can you swap this shifter with twist knob shifter?
I don't believe it pops out of gear but sometimes you dont know what position it is in if you arent paying attention to the selector indicator. I hope they dont change it to that stupid dial they are now using. I already dont like it that I can't really shift it.
I want to dislike but this is just too brilliant I might have to like it I'm sorry.
What happens if there is something wrong with the gear display? How do you know which gear your in?
it shows it on the shifter itself did you not notice that?
Does anyone knew if this will work on a 2014 300 with the v8
Is my shifter supposed to be moving without presssing the lock button or is it broken
Hello Bryan,
We recommend having the shifter inspected by your local to ensure proper functionality. ^LH
i didn't see this Electronic Shifter in SRT-8 Models ??
Isn't this the thing that killed Anton Yelchin?
Recalled as of today due to more than 41 injuries caused by people exiting the vehicle when they thought it was in Park. What a bad design... SMH
+Mike1967b I actually think it's nicer in some ways than the mechanical type. I wonder what demographic is failing to use it correctly? It doesn't seem that difficult, just different. A story also mentioned people getting out of the cars with the engine still running, which brings up another bad habit of excessive idling.
+Geo TI like this design, I find it very easy to use, I can find the gear I want without even looking, like you said it is just different but adapting to it took no time at all.
If people cant realize if their car in P or not, they shouldnt drive at all seriously .I am not even asking where these injuries happened, I really dont think these happened in Europe.
How about the (S) ??
worst design I have ever seen how did this pass quality control?
Agreed. I recently rented a 300 with that shifter, and it was unbelievably dreadful. A normal gated shifter is so mindlessly easy to use that I'm shocked that anyone would switch to such a clusterfork of horrendously bad engineering. This wasn't a minor foible that I could put up with if I owned the car; that shifter literally ruined the whole car. They couldn't pay me to own a car like that.
Good God.....bring back the simple days of the column shift with P-R-N-D-2-1
Very hard to use. Hard to find the gears.
i have one of this piece of shity shift.. In case of engine not start, how I will move shifter to N position for moving car manually? if any one know please?!!
Should be in the owners manual, the Jeeps have a cord in the center console to pull, it is hidden beneath a trim piece where the top is hinged to the console itself may or may not be the same on Chrysler and Dodge.
Let us see: 7am shift to R and then to D. 730am shift to P. 5pm shift to R and then to D. 540pm shift to P. Repeat 5 times and 2 times on the weekend. You shift 42 times a week touching it 28 times. Total time 2 minutes of touching the shifter per week. If you can't get it, then get off the road and ride a bike!
Dumbest idea ever. I rented a 300 for a week. You always had to look to make sure it was in gear.
i have it on my 2014 charger was able to get used to it in a week idk why everyone is saying you dont know what gear your in no offence but is it really that hard lol it jerks backward a little when in reverse just like any other car and dose the same when you put it in drive jerking forward that is.
+A42yearoldARAB i agree, some people are just too stupid.
Any shifter you have to look at,which planet did you come from,are driving in mars,dumbo!
I don’t think they’re stupid. But if you have a recall on 1.2M cars it’s not the greatest idea hence the stupidity’s design flaw.
And now Chrysler opps! Fiat is now recalling this awful design gearshift due to people not putting it in park correctly. I work at a rental car company and I always hated this stupid shifter. And now the new ones have that dumb knob that the 200s and jeeps use. They can't the just use the regular design that the Dodge chargers and Challengers use?
No. That would make too much sense.
Ppl will need to go to uni and get a degree in enginering to understand how to use this shifter.
People are so accustomed to pressed the shifter button to shift from any gear into any other gear that they'll have a hard time comprehending when to press and when not to press the shift button in order to achieve the desired gear.
NO WONDER. Even this instructional video is confusing.
Not only does it work poorly, but it looks cheap too.
this shit is totally unnecessary.....
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This is such a convoluted, over-engineered nightmare. I hope somebody got fired for this.
idk how technically declined you have to be to feel that way but hey to each their own. we cant all advance
What is the point of this design? Why not keep the mechanical gear shift that is simple to use and that everyone has committed to memory? From the news reports Ive been reading there have already been a lot of crashes when people exit their vehicle thinking it is in park but it isn't. Another awful design from Chrysler!
how exactly does one do that though? I agree its stupid but i think these drivers (ive seen it on the news allso) may be perhaps a bit thick in the head? i know if my car is still in gear it moves before i can even open the door.
+MrGOLDENSHOT25 you state "how exactly does one do that though? I agree its stupid but i think these drivers (ive seen it on the news allso) may be perhaps a bit thick in the head? i know if my car is still in gear it moves before i can even open the door".No we are not dummies, the shifter is moved to Park but REMAINS in Reverse ! The driver thinks the shifter is in Park, but is not. Since this has happened to me a number of times I thought I did not engage the shifter correctly. But when it happened again I discovered that some electrical bug initiates and causes the following to take place. The rear camera does not show the rear view behind the car, in the Infotainment screen, as it normally does when actually shifting to Reverse. Any dummy would realize the shifter is in Reverse, if the rear view illuminated in the Infotainment screen when the e-shifter malfunctions....But it Does Not. And another failsafe also occurs, when the motor is running, as in this situation opening the drive door normally a warning {Ringing Chimes} initiates. But no Chimes when the bug initiates. So who is the DUMMY....................Chrysler. They now have created a double FAILSAFE issue ! I'm sure they are aware of what I have stated, but are doing noting about,. It only involves 2 model years 2013 and 2014. After only 2 years Chrysler changed the e-shift to a ROTARY dial..................does that tell you anything ????
I'm not saying it is a good design, I'm just saying it like I see it based on what the news has shown me and what I have read. my door chime was unplugged by me so that if I wreck
I wont have a ptsd episode when I hear one. I do see how one can get used to the rear camera engaging and subconsciously adapt to it meaning the car Is in reverse, but it still should not be the only indication to the driver. and again, it is a new car it should start pulling as soon as you foot is off the brake.
I wont defend Chrysler (I really don't like their cars) but the calls I have seen for a recall seem like another step in the direction of the nanny state which I do not approve of. if you have been harmed by this silly design then I am sorry, but it is the drivers responsibility to pay 100% attention to their surroundings. a car can only be blamed for so much.
if it makes you feel better I have the same opinion about the gm faulty ignition that caused wrecks. my car has died 5 times and every time I still manage to stop it safely instead of hitting a tree or another vehicle.
sorry.
+Ty Garrett I guess the point of this design is to prove to everyone that Chrysler is much stupider than everyone originally thought.
Now with the death of Actor Anton Yelchin possibly at the hands of Chrysler they are going to pay big time..
user error
Smh it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist to know how to shift a gear lever... If you're that stuck on stupid then just simply count the clicks when shifting in your head and if that's still too hard to comprehend the all together just get you an older car.. Problem solved.
You MUST look at the display otherwise sooner or later you're going to slam into something behind or in front of you. Hold the lever for a microsecond too long and it skips to the next gear. An idiot designed this!!! Nice car otherwise. -- 2013 300
Horrible design. What ever happened to traditional automatic shifters? Slide it forward or back to change gears, and the gear is clearly seen next to the shift knob.
This whole thing with electronic switches is ridiculous. Something like a transmission should always be more physical and less electronic...
I'm not only blaming Fiat-Chrysler for these bad designs, but all OEMs who adopt it.. This is why I will always buy an old car...
agree! older cars and trucks are last longer also safe.
Not an improvement. In my humble opinion.
Smh it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist to know how to shift a gear lever... If you're that stuck on stupid then just simply count the clicks when shifting in your head and if that's still too hard to comprehend the all together just get you an older car.. Problem solved.
+sm0kiin You've obviously never used one of these. It doesn't click in each gear position. It just has forward and back. It's an oversized up and down button.
+Sadpants McGee I wouldn't have made that comment if I never used one smart guy... It's not hard like I said before yall make it much more difficult than what it is.
sm0kiin You said "count the clicks when shifting." If you've ever used one of these, you'd know there are no clicks when shifting. It's just an oversized electronic up/down switch.
+Sadpants McGee My shifter clicks at reverse and neutral. I don't even look at the display or shifter anymore I can feel by the clicks what gear I'm in.
There’s no clikckity nothing wen going from P to D & vice verse