BYD Pickup's size, power & battery revealed; 480 HP, bigger than Ford Ranger
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- BYD Pickup's size, power & battery revealed; 480 HP, bigger than Ford Ranger
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As of today, we have one prototype in Brazil too… 🇧🇷
Where was it spotted?
In fact, this pickup will be released in the Americas first(I mean Mexico and Brazil), not in China.
If this thing were priced at $40k it would clean up in the US… if even allowed. Ford and Chevy are going to press hard on the government not to allow this in the US at all.
25% Chicken Tax on imported trucks plus 27.5% tariff on cars from China add up to 52.5%, which is a bit prohibitive. If they made this in Mexico, they could clean up (if politicians do not block them).
China should just forget about the US... Let them be isolated by their politicians to enjoy their second rated tech at an extortion price. They will see their neighbor supposing poorer neighbors drive better cars than them for a fraction of the price.
@@larryevans6739 We have no import duties on chinese cars in Australia, but they are still charging exhorbinately high prices (a BYD can cost more than a Tesla Model 3 !) 😞
What's really cool about this is that if you're working and Mining you can use the truck in the mines in pure electric mode and then when you get out you can switch over to hybrid mode
Surface mining yes. Underground mining not yet. Having the battery in the under carriage of truck is too dangerous currently for underground mining. We break vehicles on the daily in the rough underground environment and piercing the battery case would cause a bad fire that can’t be but out easily. We have a bunch of ford lightning’s at my mining company but they aren’t allowed to go underground due to risks of battery damage.
@@dillonk5573 They are LFP battery's - there is no fire risk.
@@timorum there is still a fire risk with LFP. Underground is a wet enviornment with a lot of rocks that damage the undercarriage of the trucks. Trust me if they were ready we would have them underground already. Would save immense amounts of money on electricity for not having to use as much ventilation. Work for one of the largest mining companies in the world. We have some drills that are fully electric right now.
@@dillonk5573wow - diesel with particulate filter, turbo allowed, not innocuous LFP??
Complete with excess heat production and fumes / CO2.
There are dedicated Brazilian BEV mining trucks designed for acidic / corrosive conditions.
Able to charge underground in existing infrastructure.
Way better alternative, outlast Landcruiser 3x.
Not hybrid mode, but rather ICE mode.
This vehicle is set to be a completely different take on the traditional pickup truck. I think it will succeed as long as the distributor doesn't interfere with the pricing. Based on the BYD Hybrid Off-Road Platform DMO, the remarkable thing about this technology is that it provides substantial power while minimising fuel consumption. Take the Bao 5, for example, which has about 677 horsepower, yet its fuel consumption is only around 7-8L/100km-cheaper than most medium or large SUVs. On a day-to-day basis, the 100-150km electric range allows you to travel freely in most areas. Notably, you can use this vehicle to power electric tools, thanks to its installed battery. There’s currently no other car like this on the market.
😂 BYD are kicking the shit
According to who? Get back to work unc
Just launched in México to compete with JAC and JMC chinese pick ups
Can't wait for a good truck like this. It is inevitable.
This is based on the same platform as the Fang Cheng Bao 5. That vehicle starts at $39k US in China (a little less than a dual motor Model Y in China), but that car is positioned as a luxury SUV, targeting Land Rovers and Land Cruisers, with 670hp (vs 480?) and a lot more content. Think Escalade vs. Silverado. For a base model truck, a price below $30k in China is possible, if a bit aggressive. A higher performance, optioned up version would also be possible, but would be more expensive.
I think many people in the US would be interested in a mid-size, fully electric pickup truck. Start the price at about 40K
Their government won't let it
wow, you're threatening US's national security😂
I’ll take this test camouflage two tone color. Orange and blue.
Good combination of colors in Thailand. Blue means too conservative. Orange means too liberal.
Thanks Sam. Brilliant news. PHEV Utes with 100km range that can fast charge will be a game changer.
If circumstances allow I'd be getting one of these
Absolutely
I’m normally not a fan of plug in hybrids vs full EV’s, but 100km is good enough for everyday driving and for truck owners who need to haul, I understand the range anxiety that would come with towing.
Fast changing hardly an advantage - get extra 50 miles on trip sections, back to petrol / diesel.
1.5 lt ICE probably overkill, but great for towing long distance.
Only save 15-20% fuel on long trips, it’s all about urban short trips, full electric.
@@iandavies4853 70 miles / 100 km EV range. If stopping every 300km on a road trip (which is about average) that means 1/3rd of the trip is on EV Mode.
Good starting. Better than nothing. Currently, people still think "In Toyota We Trust". It takes some decades to change people's minds.
With that much power and front and rear motors, it sounds like the petrol engine is a range extender (serial) hybrid.
If it really uses the DMO system, the petrol engine might not be the pure extender, but can directly drives the vehicle occasionally like running at high speed on the freeway
@@balapl1070 Understand. It's odd to have so much power for a vehicle in this segment. It is more power than an F-150 but considerably smaller, so just seems weird.
@@arleneallen8809the intelligent torque transfer mechanism will likely be separate torque control for each wheel. That way they can deliver more power without wheel spin.
DMO, dual mode operation, the motor can be in serial or parallel with the electric motors. When power is needed, it goes to drive directly. On highways, it operates as range extender
Can you run the ICE engine together with both electric motors simultaneously to get the 480hp.
How is the power & torque only running in ICE mode with 1.5 turbo
150 kWh solid state battery would be perfect
If it’s priced right, and is like the new “RamCharger” Ram, I’ll be buying it. Recently bought our first EV; a BYD Seal Performance, and we’ve been extremely impressed thus far. The Chinese auto industry is going to crush all the other legacy manufacturers.
I live in Turkey with weak Charging cluster.. Got a 10kw solar system offgrid.. So this BYD Pickup is absolut perfect..and my daily or better weekly drives are less then 20km.. Normally I would never buy a Plugin Hybrid, but to drive from here to Berlin, which I do twice a year, its ideal. Especially Bulgaria, Serbia etc. Have no good charging system. Also ride Enduro Motorbike all over turkey a lot, and there you are often happy to find a gas Station, in these remote areas charging will probably possible by 2030 or later!! I just dont understand Ford or Toyota or VW why the did not launch this car 5 years ago!!! Its a sad and dumm story with the Traditional car makers..
Dodge did that midsize with the Dakota pickup
You will note that BYD is now selling plug-in hybrids. Does that mean other auto makers have some credit for selling them?
Now selling? They started ICE, then went hybrid and then BEV. What they are doing is migrating to BEV's faster and better.
BYD have been building hybrids for years, this is nothing new.
BYD has been building hybrid long before its pure electric.
I've recently been looking into shopping an electric truck. This BYD pickup is exact the one I'm looking for, but unfortunately, it won't be available in Canada for years.
Actually, Canada would probably a good target market for this Ute - much like Australia IMO.
This could be a successful given the unique tech compare with other brands. You can run your power tools in anywhere without power, 1000kms distance is plenty and can fill up the tank anywhere. Around town just use battery and change when back home. Build quality should be good if they are trying to win customers.
Yes these are gonna be so poplar amongst the Hilux crew 😂
Sounds like the ute version of the bao leopard 5
Great yarn as usual, thanks Sam. 👍 The pure ev version will be a game-changer. But we work in the Great Sandy Desert and along the Gibb River Road, so I can't help wondering: will we be able to fit a bull bar, driving lights, trayback for the aluminium canopy, higher clearance for offroad, and please . . . V2H? I guess we will just have to wait, wait. wait, wait to find out if we can do what so many of us are busting to do: customise a truly Outback ute to replace the existing Hilux.
I've been watching Outback Truckers on TV lately, and that Gibb River road looks like a nightmare. I wouldn't dare take my Tesla on it, parts would be falling off left, right, and centre !
BYD Co Ltd signed a memorandum of understanding with Rêver Automotive Co Ltd on March 28 for Rêver Bus and Truck Co Ltd under Rêver group to build electric buses and trucks based on BYD technologies.
After cybertruck hype which dragged I for a number of years, this is the ute I want
The Honda pickup truck is based on the Odyssey unibody frame for a softer ride.
Im keen to get my hands on one
Probably help lazier to have induction charging - if they can minimise air gap.
Personal taste is that the Ranger... and even the Ford Maverick is too big for my needs and wants (as is true with many people I know.) What we want is something truly smaller, with a rooftop height no more than 60" (1562mm) and no longer than 196" (4978mm).
Seems like a plug in hybrid makes a lot of sense, more affordable. Is it a range extender set up?
Does the gasoline engine directly drive the wheels or charge the batteries?
He said it's believed to be a 1.5 liter turbo charged 4 cylinder engine. If that's the case, it must be driving the wheels.
@@kentyler3962 Easier to hook it up to a generator than transmissions and drive shafts.
@@kkarllwt Absolutely. I love my Chevy Volt. The gas engine just powers the electric motor, no drivetrain.
I can do both
it depends on the remaining electricity and the driving conditions to switch "direct drive" or "charge battery" automatically or manually. it's called DMO technology. I'll give u the translation of BYD's DMO below.
BYD DMO is a professional level off-road hybrid platform, officially known as Dual Mode Off Road, or Super Hybrid Off Road in Chinese.
DMO is an innovation of BYD in plug-in hybrid technology, specifically developed for off-road vehicles. This platform is mainly driven by electricity, combining high-efficiency electric systems and traditional internal combustion engine technology, and can support two modes: direct drive or power generation.
The characteristics of DMO include the use of a 96% high-strength steel frame, CTC battery chassis integration technology, as well as the world's first longitudinal EHS hybrid system and off-road specific rear wheel drive electric assembly. These technologies collectively improve the utilization of chassis space, torsional stiffness, and overall vehicle safety. The BYD Equation Leopard 5 is the first rugged SUV to use a DMO professional off-road platform, showcasing the powerful performance and versatility of the DMO platform
Brands represents a sense of nostology and pickup buyers are conservative they buy a truck for the 10% of the time they need a truck, it must 100% truck in its functionality even though its only used in that capacity 10% of the time. Do not think you can skip on towing, cargo or toughness becouse trucks are mostly used as big cars.. Pickups are not cars and pickup- buyers the world over pay a premium for that distinction..
Take a lead from Tesla Cyber truck and its retro toughness make the body panels, frame bed and everything robust and extra tuff way over industry standard don't go for sleekness, modernity or efficiency go for rugged durability in design.
Look and 70's era pickups for inspirations these are still fashionable and revered today becouse of their simplicity, reliability and toughness.
Dual cab vehicles drive just like a car. Serious offroaders fit their own suspension.
😁the chinese SUV prototype outruns almost all SERIOUS OFFROADERs without any change.
It is the market that will either accept or reject the hybrid model.
Everyone has a choice.
So why are detractors of this BYD hybrid so up in arms against this option?
Perhaps they are paid critics from the ICE industry.....🤔🤔🤔😉😉
I would choose this while waiting for charging stations network stations to be developed.
Win both ways.
Great for Africa, and another nail in Toyota's coffin🎉
Japan is the future
@@user-vy4lz9ux9s future lesson. What unique process has Japan got that can't be easily replicated cheaply if not more efficiently? Even the device you are using is Chinese, 20 years ago it could have been Japanese, Swedish, German or American but now, huh
Towing capacity?
Pass through midgate missing 😪
Will it have a midgate I cannot understand why these manufacturers do not use these mid Gates like the avalanche has you have the ability to have full size construction material and Park the thing in the garage the other thing will they bring it to the US
The vehicle sounds appealing in some ways. However, the one big concern I have about buying a BYD is the availability of replacement parts for repairs and maintenance. (Based upon what I've read about the UK and Europe having those issues. Allegedly, insurance companies are writing off damaged vehicles simply because they cannot obtain the parts for repairs. And the result is skyrocketing insurance costs.)
You don't need spares... Just buy another one ;-) Much like the old Jaguars.
Is it petrol or diesel in the hybrid ?
petrol
It will never be allowed in the USA. Unions will block it.
It’s ok, let the Americans ride donkey, who cares.
The majors in America depend heavily on Chinese parts, which gives China some leverage on this game.
Safety requirements are not being met for American standards.
Oh a hybrid?
Ford gonna just buy fromBYD and put a blue badge on it
It's been obvious for a while that the legacy majors in America and Europe will move to rebadging Chinese vehicles increasingly. One can see examples already, and the cost gap is big.
No. The real Ford is more strength. And rebadging Chinese car will damaged the Ford brand images.
@@undisclosedthai I was actually being sarcastic. Selling the Ford Lightning at a $40K loss per truck is the real damage and concern to their brand.
All traditional ICE MANUFACTURERS better smartened up and embrace EV and ask for Tesla help otherwise they won’t be around.
It’s not Tesla to worry about they are the leader in 1st place. It’s Asian brands coming for 2nd and 3rd spots Ford &GM should focus on.
@@undisclosedthai Really? Maybe you haven't heard, but there is a Mercedes / BYD venture to rebadge some models as Mercs !
If you didnt read the statistics that top 3 cars in the US are all pickups I would not know how truck crazy they are. Its not like the rest of the world. Thats why model 1 is the top globally but in US its no. 5
Mining in Australia is crying out for lower cost options than expensive Landcruiser/Hilux conversions or RHD conversions of the F150 Lightning. Not so much interested in the Petrol Plug In hybrid version because most Mine sites only have Diesel, but the pure BEV version will be the gamechanger we’ve been waiting for. If there are options with ~300km and ~600km genuine off road ranges they’ll clean up.
USA Today: Another roadblock to convincing Americans to buy an EV: plunging resale values
"The average price for a used electric vehicle fell by up to 32% while the average for a gas model slipped by 3.6 percent"
Come on mate you don’t even know what your talking about. You’ve never seen a lithium battery in a Ute tray obviously
Tesla with their 4 year old models and giant expensive Cyber truck is no match. I am concerned that Tesla is not keeping up. I love Elon and want him to succeed.
4 years old? The new 3 just came out and the S and X were also refreshed.
The cyberbullshit from Tesla is a folly. They should have built a normal Ute/Pickup instead IMO (and I'm a shareholder).
Very nice, hope they bring to Brazil right away The Duracell only version
plug in Hybrid? Is it too heavy for full electric?/
full electric is coming, but they think phev will be the best intro.
I’d be interested to hear you report more on other aspects of the EV ownership ecosystem, especially service, support, repairs availability, etc, in target markets. Understanding the F&B of the vehicles is interesting, but as we all know, there’s a lot more to ownership than just the vehicle.
In Australia, we have 100% built Utes/pickups from chinese government owned SAIC corp. The company name is LDV. They are relatively cheap compared to all the Toyota equivalents, and you can buy them just about anywhere. The Toyota dealerships must be crapping themselves.
When the full electric arrives, I'm in!
The best will be to have a diesel plug in hybrid
How is the diesel going to help the environment?
@@Michael-yi4mc diesel engine is 25% more efficient than a petrol motor much greener
@@nicolubbe1 👍We are not looking for efficient. The EPA is looking for clean.
@@Michael-yi4mc the new diesel engine is cleaner than petrol
@@nicolubbe1 👍Better than Diesel gate?
Brand loyalty is key here.
If the incumbents continue to become ever pricier, and BYD, say, comes in at a more moderate price with a creditable product, hypothetically, they might wedge their way in like the Korean makes did. Politics are probably a bigger factor.
Interested to see how an under vehicle camera will work in off road?
"is much better".... so it hasnt even been released, nor have you driven it or seen it in the flesh. Save the clickbait statements for when you actually real world test it.
plugin hybrids has a couple more years left due to incredible battery range increases, battery efficiency, battery price decreases and super fast charging.
I’ll wait for a van body on this pickup truck chassis.
I agree. It would make a nice mobile home in BEV version.
Independent rear suspension is a mistake for load carrying vehicles like utes. Hopefully they have some sort of weight adjustment system built into the rear suspension otherwise the tyres can chew out quickly.
Is this Blade brand any relation to a business that used to be in Australia many years ago that were converting hyaundai Getz into electric cars and selling them to government agencies then one of the owners for unknown reasons drove the business into the ground and the other guy was hired by a Chinese firm?
With a 5KW power outlet it would be a real winner.
What is the model name of the pickup truck?
Shark
The price that BYD are throwing at the media is probably just trying to put Geely on their heels as their Radar or Riddara RD6 base model truck goes for $25K
Evening mate
The bed is too short
This would sell a lot in Brazil.
edit* is not ladder Frame. i am feeling DOA.
It is body on frame. The battery is integrated into the ladder frame. Not a unibody like a Cybertruck or Honda Ridgeline.
Sam you get a bit carried away with your enthusiasm, to claim the BYD is much better than a proven hilux or ranger when the BYD ute has proven zero, makes u sound like a fan boy and not an informed analyst. I know you're only human, and I;ll keep supporting you as overall you do a great job in informing us.
Imagine living once on planet Earth and driving around in a BYD.. 🤣
When do you sleep?
He doesn't he's a robot powered by AI 😂
Churning out videos 24-7 to make money is his pleasure, food, rest, everything 😆
@@fabi-9971 Lol
@@ev.whyking Lol Lol
Haven't they kind of Osborned themselves by revealing that there's only a 12 month wait for a full EV version? Or do people actually want the PHEV instead in significant numbers? If so, then I can't relate to that.
I’ve got friends who are still scared to go full BEV, but an affordable pickup truck that can do 100km range on Battery for daily use to save them money and a Petrol range extender for when they do need to tow a caravan 1200km in a day would be very appealing.
According to Ford, GM, Stellantis and Toyota, people want PHEV trucks more than EV trucks. In LATAM, MEA and APAC, for the countries where charging infrastructure is not developed, a PHEV makes more sense for many users.
@@DickyChap I did a trip from Melb-Cairns return in my BEV (Tesla Model Y), some days we did more than 1200km (but without a caravan) motels are cheaper.
If any of the Chinese brands build a support network with available parts and have built trust and reputation for reliability of at least another 5-10 yrs I may consider buying. At the moment, it’s still “sucks to be you” after sales service, which they get away with in China where the “rule of law” is very flimsy.
you need to build up your reputation and reliability before businesses are willing to invest there. so, if you are only reputable and reliable towards western businesses, then only western businesses will invest there.
@@user-dk9ln1dy6s LDV have already done this in Australia. I see them everywhere in Australia, where previously it was all Toyota and Hyundais.
I would have been happy to see the BYD Ute 90mm shorter/ smaller than the Ford Ranger. The hybrid version would be better suited to have a larger battery, something maybe closer to 200km in electric range.
Making it longer /larger than Ford Ranger makes it just a little less attractive for the average driver unfortunately. Larger utes may better suit the tradies market but will they be buying BYD hybrid or sticking with Ford or Toyota.
60miles is nothing
how can it succeed given byd 's huge reliability issues ? are u their rep?
480hp with 1000ks range carrying all that dead weight? I find that hard to believe. Something is fishy here. Is the 480hp the petrol or the electric motor? Or is that the combined hp?
Toyota has a history of reliability both on road and off road plus an extensive dealership network able to provide service and spare parts nationwide.. Not so for BYD, which looks to be offering sexy EVs for urban cowboys. No wonder Sam wants one.
I can almost hear the giant sucking sound of Ford GM and Toyota.
AMERICA OVER CAPACITY OF WALLSTREET
Too big for Europe. It's a parking nightmare in most of urban Europe.
Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Lamborghini
Would not touch a imported Chinese car with a barge pole. No spare parts, no backup, high insurance costs.
Thousands of Aussies are buying them already (no import duty helps).
How can you say that. You have never seen one, driven one, or had any feedback from anyone one who is relevant. This channel is just getting worse by the day.
It's just regurgitation from other sites that also regurgitate speculation from Semi AI generated "articles"
Hybrids, yesterday. Electric today and Tomorrow .
Specs do not sound very good for such a big car. 358 HP combined has little value, as combined power use will be very limited with an up to 60 mile range only. 1,5 L turbo engine also sounds small for this vehicle size, which is supposed to be a work horse.
I highly doubt this vehicle can do 1000 kms on a single tank, let alone with electric combined. And then there is that extra 30 Kwh weight it carries. Offload capabilities we will have to see if it has enough umf with combined power in sync. For comfort, I can understand the specs. I still doubt 1,5 L is powerful enough for tough offroading even with the turbo.
Why does an electric ute need a bonnet? Wasted space. Hard to see over.
Crashworthiness might have something to do with it...
Too big for me. I want. An EV ute smaller than the ranger.
Sorry - I really do not understand the concept of PHEV for a commercial or work use. Truck is for commercial use mostly but those who bought PHEV for work couldnt be bother charging. There is a study in EU with PHEV is 3 time polluting. Might be better do a full gas hybrid rather than PHEV. At the end its either Hybrid or BEV.......there is no room for PHEV.
There is a study in EU with PHEV is 3 time polluting -- DMO is not. EU don't have much electrical car, what kind of research can they do.
Why would they bother with PHEV. Pointless. Sold my PHEV or not like phew outlander as the entire PHEV idea is far too stupid to make any sense at all.
Japanese PHEV is a JOKE. The chinses version of this ute, can do 7L per 100k. Very cheap to run.
@@liuyangyang Japanese PHEVs - joke 100% agree. But my Outlander PHEV as well as my 2019 non-PHEV Hilux 2.8 D were both doing 7l/100km. And yes, this UTE is def better than either, but I'm happy to bet that it will be garbage compared to it's own fully EV version. PHEV is basically unnecessary amount of dino-juice burning dino-tech onboard. No-brainer to have all that ICE space filled with batteries and having the simplest of motion system in place rather than the most complex one. Also, in the UK the Outlander PHEV was ok, but in Spain whenever temperature outside reached over 26C, the thing was suffering big time with all sort of fans running at full at all time. And to no surprise, having the 2L petrol engine just ahead of the battery pack... PHEV is seriously dumb idea IMHO.
I hate BEV's why drag all that extra expense and weight around for 60 miles, every repair is double the costs because the the gas engine is in the way of the electric components and vice a versa. Mileage for both drive trains is reduce do the extra weight and complexity. I have enough complexities in my life !!!
the bev version does not have an ice engine, you mean a PHEV, but I agree the worst of both worlds.
I don't think many guys would buy a BYD 'truck' Chinese 4wd are not known for strength and there will be other EV Options like RAM,Chev. Only way would be a super cheap price.
I'd never buy Chinese 'truck' if same price. BYD are the Aliexpress of cars.
You will never buy it and you think its the "Aliexpress" of cars, but todays young and future generations will grow up with the knowledge that Chinese EV`s as with all new energy technology is better than the western or Japanese equivalent.
Sure some of them are going to be indoctrinated western supremacists, but generally people will go for the better product/best value for money.
😁😁😁😁 the electrical motor of BYD is just so advanced. 500bhp. Where do you think RAM CHEV PHEVs are coming from if there is any? Where do you think Model 3 battery is coming from? BYD
@liuyangyang hmm, yang sir, cars have more to them than the battery maker. Duracell or Energizer make batteries, but we don't drive them. Actually, I'm wrong. My sons 4wd monster truck is powered by Duracell, and also China built. Fun aside, I simply cannot see the developed Western world labelling BYD or Neo or any of the other 90+ Chinese EV makers as motoring prestige. Yes I know they are huge in China, and numbers are global in size, but not global in location. huge given that Asian market, but that's very localised. Now Chinese car CEOs are getting schooled on western pushback and expectstions. It's taken Mercedes, and other brands over 100 years of motoring, racing, marketing and proven quality to aspire to.The Chinese market is so different to USA and Europe, James Bond won't step out of a BYD, not for many decades. You don't step out of a BYD and say, wow, I've made it. You step out and wonder if the door steel will still be straight next time you shut the door. Have you seen byd 4wd reviews? Twisted metal, laughable and apauling excuse for 4wd. Come on, look at the EU push back, US same. EU ports BYD parking lots with teturn to sender stickers. BYD will struggle to establish market share especially when marquee brands get the same or better batteries and electric motors, which they will pilfer, steal or buy from BYD, and it will happen quickly. Asians countries are not exactly reveared as driving nations are they.
Given there is NO support network outside of Asia, the only way they BYD will gain western market share, undercut the absolute crap out of their competition. That's not prestige, but that is the proven Chinese way. Sell cheap.
@@liuyangyang Only 20 GigaWattHours of BYD Blade LFP's go to Tesla. Most of them come from CATL.
@@LekkerDops Unfortunately, BYD are over pricing their cars in Australia. If they cut them to a 10% margin, THEN they would sell like hotcakes.
Not keen on the paint job lol
i bet its 3 tons 🤣
You are wrong. Chinese pickups do not sell very well, because (so far) they are stupidly constructed and they suck at quality.
It's true in the past,but now things have changed
Just gonna call it, the shape is ugly, there are so many better looking Utes, back to the drawing board BYD
JMC PICKUP