In the United States, in the 1960s and 1970s aluminum was used in home wiring for cheapness' sake. Later there were a lot of problem with oxidation and loosening of connectors due to significant expansion/contraction. Afterward, the US went back to copper wire. Using aluminum wire indicates that the manufacturer does not intent the vehicle to last a long time.
Because in the 60s alluminium was still new tech for civilian market. But guess what, alluminium is quite comment nowdays in cars buildings and plant. Copper price have rose and we know how to produce better alluiminium cable. Most EV like tesla use alluminium wire. Alluminium has much better electrical property than copper.
Even to this day aluminium wire and high current start's car and house fire's!!! Even aluminium speaker wire is absolutely garbage that breaks when setting up speakers or it won't work at all having many breaks along the length of the wires!! If you have a Ev with aluminium wire you are guaranteed to have a fire
unless it broke after a week or a month. Then you buy a dozen times... but most people can't change their car as regular as their shirt... no matter how cheap the car is.
@@FlameHeart-o3m China has used way too much tech , stupid computers on the dash board and crazy tech , just more to go wrong , even the seats have motors and switches , just a handle would have adjusted a seat , that will never fail just a simple handle ! Not 6 motors and an ECU and wiring to move a seat ?
Anyone who thinks they can get some kind of Porsche light for just under 40.000 euros must go see his doctor. That is still not a small amount of money. But it is like almost everything in China...a cheap copy with absolutely no quality.
There's a small middle-class. 84% of Chinese are in poverty. China's poverty line is $182 USD a year. There's only 150 million Chinese who earn 3,000-5,000 yuan a month. This group of 150 million is the one wasting all their money on this constant crap. Also that woman is likely very wealthy. She was able to withdraw 30,000 yuan in a single day. The vast majority of Chinese can't withdraw 1,000 yuan a day. They have the money but can't take it out. The banks are only allowing the rich to make large transactions.
it is a common thing; a low income person may feel they have acquisition power by buying something expensive, like a flat screen or a cellphone that it is usually reserved for higher income workers. i saw this all the time working in retail, ironically enough it is the wealthy people the ones who tend to be super stingy with the smallest things.
Europe should not allow these vehicles to enter the European market. Cars that loose suspension or batteries that catch on fire on a highway are very dangerous to other vehicles on the road
Agreed that's why in Australia we cherish our Ford Falcons and Holden Commmdores that are simple honest reliable cars without the unneasary complexity.
I have a Xiaomi 98" TV when it gets warm you can see the LED backlight squares showing through on light scenes. I always have a fan running behind it all the time, and just stop using it totally in the hot weather as it smells like its going to burn up. I would never consider buying any car from a Chinese company
10:28 Aluminium wiring is a recipe for disaster. I earn extra money by fixing people's car. There are countless number of cases where electrical problems arises from the use of Aluminium, where the connection at the Aluminium got eaten away overtime, while also generate some kind of deposit between the two materials increasing the resistance to a point of open circuit. I mostly found them on French cars (at the rear light cluster) and FIAT.
lol!!! aluminum wire was tried in factory built homes here in the US. It was discovered that the aluminum wire, while the lighter Then copper wire. was so much more brittle, particularly where the connections were made and the aluminum wire cut. to make the conductions, that the wiring was deemed too big of a fire hazard to be used. in these units.. Keep in mind that the units left the factory., were transported down the freeway, and ended their journey at the final site where they were installed. to be permanent homes. If that jostling down the freeway. a bit was enough to cause problems with the aluminum connections., Can you imagine? the kind of difficulties that those aluminum connections are going to have. with the car that's being driven down a highway every day Nova potholes. et cetera..xiaomi Should offer three versions of this car? 1. parked in the garage and never used., 2. special flame paint job 3. The burnt beyond recognition model..
From Tesla: Aluminum wire is cheaper than copper, but the wires must be thicker to carry the same amount of current. In addition, every type of attachment (breakers, outlets, etc.) must be specifically rated for use with aluminum wire (and many are not). Lastly, care must be taken to apply the correct anti-oxidizing paste. If aluminum wiring is not properly installed, over time it can cause dangerous overheating resulting in fires! For this reason, we strongly recommend the use of copper wires for EV charging to avoid the risk of improper installation. The Tesla Wall Connector is rated only for copper wire. Doesn’t sound like they are fond of Aluminum wire, even for the home charging system.
It's easy to copy the shell shape (and doing even this a laughingstock), but highly doubt they copied the material science and engineering like high speed crash crumple zones. You get what you spend with cars, they have slim margins already
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk ~ The Boeing of today, is not the like the Boeing pre 1997 and the McDonnell Douglas merger, which brought in a lot leaven into Boeing Corp.
6:18 she’s the sucker for paying 300k cash and expecting preferential treatment. You never pay that much in cash unless you have the keys in your hand.
Salesman now has his (small) commission, so she can now wait! It's the retail equivalent of paying a kidnapper the ransom before your relative has actually been returned!
Xiaomi have long copied phones from other vendors, so it's hardly surprising that they copied the car too. That said, 20 yrs ago TopGear showed Chinese companies doing rip-offs of BMW, etc
Very suppressed ? They are spamming misleading content on a daily basis and forwarded by all their far right sect members comrades to the glee of their american racist viewer base, if anything, they should get a banner like state sponsored media saying "This channel is financed by a sect that was banned from mainland China and has since been trying to get their revenge on them using defamation and outright criminal activities"
Aluminum's higher resistivity means you need heavier gauge wire to carry the same amount of current, or suffer resistive losses in the form of hot wires that waste battery life and could melt the insulation and start fires.
@dcc70 so you are saying that 800v isn't deadly? Also bumping 12v system to 48v doesn't make it deadly. You have too simplistic a worldview. These are all just things that can be managed.
01:58 China pleather PVC doesnt last a year. They're made to flake and disintegrate. Activists wanted "eco friendly" plastics. This is it. 11:10 Aluminum wiring is not used in construction for very good reasons.
aluminum wiring for power distribution is used all the time in residential, commercial and industrial settings. the only thing its not used for is general purpose 15 and 20 amp power and lighting circuits.
Aluminum wire is not used for good reasons, but running hot is not one of them! The narrator also stated that the lower conductivity is made up for by increasing the cross section area. The heating issues is not because the wires are aluminum, but because they substituted a lower gauge to save money, which they would have done with copper as well. The main issue with Al wiring is because _mixing_ different metals causes reactions. In a home, the various fittings are generally made for copper, and the rare Al house has to insert special adapters. Now guess what's another thing they can cheap out on? The final issue is with how many times the wire can be flexed before it cracks. Note that all the distribution cables you have overhead on towers and underground, from the powerplant to the residential substation, is all made of aluminum.
It is a completely stolen design. Shame on thieves especially those who didn't understand what they stole and how to properly reproduce the stolen design.
@@stevie-ray2020 Ahahaha, you just wrecked yourself! Yeah "you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!" You should judge it by it's yellowing, moldy and rotting pages inside, just like your precious little bǎo shí mǐ. Here's your 50 cents
@@RJE48 Focus should be more on own designs and less rip offs. SU7 is based on BAIC platform, which seems to be poor quality or too advanced for regular chinese drivers...
@@teknosql4740 Manufacturing cars is much much more complex than you imagine. It involves 1000's of sub-contractors and suppliers and managing their quality throughout the entire chain. Just the plastic paint coatings on a dashboard, or a gear wheel is a huge story within itself.
@@varanisshouyou4379 If your screen is on during a call, (to press mute) it either means your phone proximity sensor is faulty from new, your screen has been repaired badly or your screen settings are messed up....
Aluminum has a higher resistance to electric flow than copper, and higher resistance generates more heat in the wire. Aluminum is OK to use for low voltage over short distances, but NOT for an EV!
@@olli1407 there's a big difference in stringing out aluminum/steel wires in the open air and apart from other wires, and confining aluminum wires in a small space with little airflow against other components.
Also diesel & gasoline powered equipment is used to mine, transport, and process metals in EV batteries. The mining process destroys the ecology in those areas. Child labor is used to mine cobalt in the Congo.
@@ciklop4206 Assembled in China, 90% of the components were imported from other countries. With oversight in the supply chain to make sure no corners are being cut.
@@guill90 doubt it's 90%, although I do see where you pulled the number from lol. They tend to keep as much of the process in China due to labour and centralisation dud
EVs made by Tesla are the most green, and with time it will increase, do t think this is a static situation, solar and wind plants are getting cheaper and increasing in numbers with time, green products will arrive exponentially, we are just in a transition state; Xiaomi does not know how to make EVs, let's see if they learn before their EV division goes backrupt.
@@Voltaje_YT The best Tesla with the latest Lithium cells only gets a pathetic 900 Power/Efficiency score. A Gasoline/Diesel gets a 4500 score. EV's are such a strain on the powergrids that they are causing brown-outs in just mid-sized cities and causing the Fast-Charge feature to be disabled at the charging stations. Plus the lithium mines have to strip 500,000cu. yds of earth to get enough lithium for just one EV. There's not enough lithium out there to sustain EV's. The largest mines in Australia and China have already been depleted 2yrs ago. They cause thousands of tons more of coal and natural gas to be burned at the powerplants. Sounds real "green" huh?? 😆 This sad idiotic EV fad will be gone in a couple years. Dealerships all over have announced they will not take any EV's on trade-in cause no one wants them.
As an owner of a Redmi Note 10 who discovered that its VoLTE file wasn't doing its job when Vodafone turned off their 3G network here in Australia, I know what you mean! The Note 10 is a 2yr old 4G phone, but fortunately I found an easy fix online, & I still love it!
Dont underestimate china, just dont buy if you think its not good, they choose cheapest material to price purpose not mean they are not capable to build strong one, they have cutting edge tech to produce many thing
Chill, it's their first product. And other Chinese EVs are well made enough to compete with a lot of European and American cars. Don't just sip "china bad" coolaid, it's bad for your mental health.
They claim to be selling at a loss, but they're selling trash? How much of a loss could it have been if they skimp on the materials and only use low quality stuff that breaks within a year? The reason luxury cars are that expensive is because they use high quality material that doesn't break easily, or is extremely light (or both if carbon fiber)... You can get some pretty decent cars for 30k USD (new) and most of them you will be able to use for over 10 years because they're not made out of trash.
It’s cheap for a reason. The Chinese copy almost everything from the design perspective only. However, when it comes to engineering, craftsmanship, build quality, and more, they suck. They try to make their cars as cheap as possible. Always remember that you get what you pay for. Major automakers price their EVs higher but they produce acceptable level of quality. I don’t get it why don’t the Chinese build something of good quality and go head-to-head with the major automakers. The Chinese really love to do it cheap and affordable. In the long term, it may sound good; but in the long term, it would be very problematic.
You guys keep crying that they copy but besides the exterior, point to the intellectual property inside the car that you accuse them of copying. China haters only know how to cope by saying "copied" without ever driving a Chinese car lmao.
@@KanishQQuotes The same phones that had a tendency to blow up in your pocket ? I have a latest generation Note 13 Pro + and it hasn't given me a single problem and the quality is superb, this entire channel is a propaganda tool taking 3 videos out of context and generalising it as a problem on a countrywide scale.
You preorder, you lose. But tbh, aluminium wiring is very popular in EVs. It's lighter and cheaper. BMW i3 uses alu wires in the battery, in interconnectors between modules. Besides, every battery has cells connected with aluminium tabs. It does NOT generate more heat because thicker gauge is used to compensate for higher resistance.
This is one of the main problems with China. Everybody wants to get their hands in the sectors that were hot like Real Estate and EVs. Why Xiaomi and Evergrande decided to get involve in the EVs? There are already so many players (originally more than 400 companies in EVs). Just stick to what you are good at and manage your business well.
Honestly that's kind of amazing that they found such a crappy material I don't know of any other material on earth that disintegrates or wears away that fast like did they make the seats out of butter And how do you even have more leaks than there are places that hold fluid that don't even make sense there's probably only oil in the front and rear gear boxes how is oil coming out of the tires and in other places at the same time there shouldn't even be that much fluid in there
Maybe it's not for lubrication, but a cooling-fluid or its for fire extinguisher purpose, heard chinese EVs are likely to overheat or to combust externally. I think it would be a very clever way to include a fire extinguisher in the car. Maybe you can make them a micro transaction for when the car is burning. For only 30000¥ you can purchase a immediate fireout feature. Do you like to buy now?
They obviously blew the main feedline for the blinker fluid at all four clusters front and rear. Such shoddy workmanship should be criminal. Oh... wait... it's China. Never mind.
Benz started making cars in 1885. They have been perfecting them ever since. My previous one did 240.000km. Once a year to the dealer for scheduled maintenance. Once there was an issue with the water pump. They didn't charge anything for the repair. We got a phone call from the dealer afterward to explain and apologise, "That should not have happened." Then it was rather sadly rear-ended. Too expensive to repair. so we took the money the insurance paid for it and bought a new car. Guess which brand. If people are so stupid to buy a car from a company that was making rather crappy cell-phones and decided somewhere last week "we're gonna make cars".... In my country there is a saying: if you burn your a**, you have to sit on the blisters.
I believe it’s a mistake to underestimate the ability of Chinese manufacturers to learn from the mistakes of older models. China has the people, industry, and resources to innovate and improve constantly. Moreover, there are several Chinese EV models that have received excellent reviews. In the West, we may have become complacent and underestimated this competition.
we are not rich enough to buy cheap under spec products. how can a Tech giant simply copy and paste Porsche Taycan and interior graphics of Tesla? Chinese customers are very much brand oriented and they stick to their choice of proper cars when they can afford them. Porsche, BMW, Tesla etc..
Any actual users here? Here I do hear just general statements and some individual experiences. What I'm missing is some statistics for example in how many of total sold&used cars is specific issue etc...
Most U.S. homes have aluminum wire for the main runs, such as the street feed to the Main Breaker and from there to any Subpanels (usually 100 A USE-2). It is mandatory to use anti-corrosion grease at the connectors, but that is recommended for copper wire too. 1960's homes which used aluminum wire for the outlets (15 or 20 A) apparently didn't use grease, so suffered corrosion at connectors which gave high resistance heating and sometimes caused fires. So, no problem using aluminum wire for the high current runs in EV's, if designed correctly.
To the fears of European manufacturers of the Chinese car manufacturers, relax, it is not hard to see their products are absolutely dreadful all around and the support is even worst. How many times I have bought Chinese products and feel regret, every single time, literally.
i used aluminum wire for my car stero speakers. had to replace/strip and re wire after 2months due to corrosion. save $20 for the first install. but ended up have to do the work twice till i replaced it for copper
My house burned down because of aluminum electrical wiring. I mean down down, as in clear to the basement floor down. It's an interesting experience shoveling ashes which represent everything you own into a dumpster.
Tesla was also scrutinized whenever they first came out, y’all don’t remember the fatal accidents and battery explosions? These are all easily fixable for a 1st gen manufactured car. And if this is a Porsche than the Chrysler 300 is a damn rolls royce. I wish I could buy one except for the shitty overpriced evs we get in the US
Never be the first to buy something from a new manufacturer. It's one thing when Apple decided to produce phones. Very similar to iPod / laptops. But, a phone company producing cars? Even the iPhones had major issues (not Apple's fault). Worked in downtown SF in a modern relatively low floor building and our phones didn't work in the building. It was comical.
My personal experience of using Macs at university (plus how short-lived other Apple products belonging to others I know have lasted) convinced me to never purchase anything from Apple!
While i think that they may very well fix those issues, undercutting the competition by incurring losses does not 'convey seriousness'. Quite the opposite. In conveys desperation. But the same goes for almost all legacy car companies as well.
Oh, the damn information gap has led many to believe that Xiaomi cars appeared out of nowhere. I think this is due to a lack of understanding of the information from China. Xiaomi's car factory is operated by BAIC (Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Co.), and the project was initiated several years ago. BAIC Group serves as a contract manufacturer for many automotive brands such as Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, and Foton. As for the technology of Xiaomi cars, Xiaomi has poached a large number of talents from Geely Automobile Research Institute, including the head of the institute. Speaking of Geely Automobile Group, I think some people might be familiar with it. This company owns Volvo, Lynk & Co, Geely, and smart, and even now holds substantial shares in Aston Martin and Mercedes-Benz. I hope that a random video on a TH-cam channel should not sway the judgment of an intellectually capable person. Let me repeat the specs of the Xiaomi SU7: Length (mm): 4997 Width (mm): 1963 Height (mm): 1455 Wheelbase (mm): 3000 CLTC pure electric range (km): 700 Official 0-100 km/h acceleration (s): 2.78 Price: 299,900 RMB, approximately 41,200 USD
I wonder how many people in this channel are excited to believe that one batch of cars by one of hundreds of car makers in China having issues at the moment can represent all the cars this company and all Chinese companies will ever make. If anyone was actually worried about low quality Chinese cars then no tariffs would be needed. Countless car brands have had issues that required crazy amounts of recalls. Do you see people saying this means “all German/japanese cars have faulty breaks” because of that? Only when speaking about China do you actually attempt to easily accept this kind of bad logic. Even the way the information is presented makes it seem like it doesn’t know or care about the car industry at all and just wants to get some of that congressional anti China money.
I bought my Lexus GS 450h 2012 and never had problems compared with ANY other car companies who had from small to huge problems Lexus never have problems.
This page is pure propaganda. If you actually want real news from China and not read all the people who are envious of them theres many other channels to check out.
When the first import cars from Japan landed on western shores, we were laughing. When the first import cars from Korea landed on western shores, we were laughing. Now we are laughing no more.
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In the United States, in the 1960s and 1970s aluminum was used in home wiring for cheapness' sake. Later there were a lot of problem with oxidation and loosening of connectors due to significant expansion/contraction. Afterward, the US went back to copper wire. Using aluminum wire indicates that the manufacturer does not intent the vehicle to last a long time.
Guess what tesla use? aluminum wire? or copper wire?
I think aluminum is not the problem. You should isolate it well and use the right wire thickness accordingly.
it could also be a method of accidental forced obsolescence so the user needs to buy a new car sooner.
Because in the 60s alluminium was still new tech for civilian market. But guess what, alluminium is quite comment nowdays in cars buildings and plant. Copper price have rose and we know how to produce better alluiminium cable. Most EV like tesla use alluminium wire.
Alluminium has much better electrical property than copper.
Even to this day aluminium wire and high current start's car and house fire's!!! Even aluminium speaker wire is absolutely garbage that breaks when setting up speakers or it won't work at all having many breaks along the length of the wires!! If you have a Ev with aluminium wire you are guaranteed to have a fire
You buy cheap, you buy twice
unless it broke after a week or a month. Then you buy a dozen times... but most people can't change their car as regular as their shirt... no matter how cheap the car is.
@@FlameHeart-o3m China has used way too much tech , stupid computers on the dash board and crazy tech , just more to go wrong , even the seats have motors and switches , just a handle would have adjusted a seat , that will never fail just a simple handle ! Not 6 motors and an ECU and wiring to move a seat ?
Anyone who thinks they can get some kind of Porsche light for just under 40.000 euros must go see his doctor. That is still not a small amount of money. But it is like almost everything in China...a cheap copy with absolutely no quality.
You buy cheap, you buy more than twice. You get what you pay for.
41k is cheap?
If people are so out of money, why do they spend what little they have left on garbage? Doesn't make any sense!
Because they are shallow and materialistic.
Because a lot of people are not only poor but dumb as well
poor, dumb and rised in communist state with piles of garbage
There's a small middle-class. 84% of Chinese are in poverty. China's poverty line is $182 USD a year. There's only 150 million Chinese who earn 3,000-5,000 yuan a month. This group of 150 million is the one wasting all their money on this constant crap. Also that woman is likely very wealthy. She was able to withdraw 30,000 yuan in a single day. The vast majority of Chinese can't withdraw 1,000 yuan a day. They have the money but can't take it out. The banks are only allowing the rich to make large transactions.
it is a common thing; a low income person may feel they have acquisition power by buying something expensive, like a flat screen or a cellphone that it is usually reserved for higher income workers. i saw this all the time working in retail, ironically enough it is the wealthy people the ones who tend to be super stingy with the smallest things.
Europe should not allow these vehicles to enter the European market. Cars that loose suspension or batteries that catch on fire on a highway are very dangerous to other vehicles on the road
Should be standard testing no matter where the car comes from in order to get into market. No reason to cherry pick!
and where to dump these toxic products?
@@eriksvensson2098 That is not enough, because if a product is "designed" to destroy and take over a market, then that market should ban it.
China @@manuelr1405
Europian cars are trash the break down all the time with very expensive repairs also!!!europian cars are very sensitive
Standard, pro, and max.. just like Apple… 🙄
They even copied that 😂
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
But where is the Apple car?😅
@@birbir9862your comprehensions is really amazing 😂😂😂😂
@@birbir9862 It refers to the apple phone.
copy and paste, copying the looks, but left out the quality
I do not buy car models unless they have a minimum of 5 years of track record in the segment
You donot deserve a brand new concept .😅
Mf, how rich are you?
Agreed that's why in Australia we cherish our Ford Falcons and Holden Commmdores that are simple honest reliable cars without the unneasary complexity.
if it is made in China, don’t expect too much
Except the scams, those are world class
you realise the teslas made in china are generally better built than the teslas built in the US
@@alexwong2422 They were engineered in the USA though where 100% of the R&D budget went to.. R&D.
@@fredyyfredfreddy Incorrect. But nice try!
I have a Xiaomi 98" TV when it gets warm you can see the LED backlight squares showing through on light scenes.
I always have a fan running behind it all the time, and just stop using it totally in the hot weather as it smells like its going to burn up.
I would never consider buying any car from a Chinese company
10:28 Aluminium wiring is a recipe for disaster. I earn extra money by fixing people's car. There are countless number of cases where electrical problems arises from the use of Aluminium, where the connection at the Aluminium got eaten away overtime, while also generate some kind of deposit between the two materials increasing the resistance to a point of open circuit. I mostly found them on French cars (at the rear light cluster) and FIAT.
Car Designer know that problem, but its part of intentional market strategy, minimizing production cost to kill other participant
The french vehicles are about as reliable as chiiiinese.
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@@russelbrown6275 For the French cars, at least their brake works. Take a look at Malaysia Chery and MG no brakes.
Galvanic corrosion
The chinese girl that talks about “Consumers Rights“ is too funny😂 .. in a Country where Human rights worth less than zero….
no human rights. no property rights. the idea they even have consumer rights is indeed laughable.
It won't be funny if you learn more.
Better than UK 😂 where you can get arrested for hosting a British flag
Usa is the best
I'd rather be gay in China than in paki land
lol!!! aluminum wire was tried in factory built homes here in the US. It was discovered that the aluminum wire, while the lighter Then copper wire. was so much more brittle, particularly where the connections were made and the aluminum wire cut. to make the conductions, that the wiring was deemed too big of a fire hazard to be used. in these units.. Keep in mind that the units left the factory., were transported down the freeway, and ended their journey at the final site where they were installed. to be permanent homes. If that jostling down the freeway. a bit was enough to cause problems with the aluminum connections., Can you imagine? the kind of difficulties that those aluminum connections are going to have. with the car that's being driven down a highway every day Nova potholes. et cetera..xiaomi Should offer three versions of this car? 1. parked in the garage and never used., 2. special flame paint job 3. The burnt beyond recognition model..
Good explanation on the shortcoming of aluminum wiring issues.
Yup rented an old house with aluminum wiring, it was not great. I can see why they regulated aluminum out of residential buildings.
A quick search turned up comments about Tesla also using at least some aluminum wiring in their vehicles.
Do you know tesla also use aluminum wire? it's common in EV industry
From Tesla: Aluminum wire is cheaper than copper, but the wires must be thicker to carry the same amount of current. In addition, every type of attachment (breakers, outlets, etc.) must be specifically rated for use with aluminum wire (and many are not). Lastly, care must be taken to apply the correct anti-oxidizing paste. If aluminum wiring is not properly installed, over time it can cause dangerous overheating resulting in fires! For this reason, we strongly recommend the use of copper wires for EV charging to avoid the risk of improper installation. The Tesla Wall Connector is rated only for copper wire.
Doesn’t sound like they are fond of Aluminum wire, even for the home charging system.
Seems like the meaning "Made In China" still stands.
It is a guarantee of quality. BAD quality is guaranteed.
@@xhagast
Yet they sell better than any other ev here in Thailand.
Made from chinesium.......a mixture of dust and air...!!!!
The car stood up to the Made in China name
And always will.
It's like a Chinese imitation Rolex, it's not a desirable car.
It's easy to copy the shell shape (and doing even this a laughingstock), but highly doubt they copied the material science and engineering like high speed crash crumple zones. You get what you spend with cars, they have slim margins already
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
But fake Rolex won't kill you
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk ~ The Boeing of today, is not the like the Boeing pre 1997 and the McDonnell Douglas merger, which brought in a lot leaven into Boeing Corp.
@@martentrudeau6948 that's all happened in all American products. Very expensive goods but bad quality
Those first-adopter influencers are very naive to believe that the first products off any production-line are going to be flawless!
Do manufacturer's not test vehicles BEFORE they release them to the public ?
derpfluencers
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
@@ThomasD7244 Don't you know that for Chinese products, the consumer has always done the quality-control testing?
Agreed, BUT they should meet BASIC QUALITY STANDARDS!
6:18 she’s the sucker for paying 300k cash and expecting preferential treatment. You never pay that much in cash unless you have the keys in your hand.
Salesman now has his (small) commission, so she can now wait!
It's the retail equivalent of paying a kidnapper the ransom before your relative has actually been returned!
She'll need to work extra hard to please her sugar daddy and make him forget her stupid purchase decision
It also helps to have a contract
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
Yup. You read my mind.
Xiaomi have long copied phones from other vendors, so it's hardly surprising that they copied the car too. That said, 20 yrs ago TopGear showed Chinese companies doing rip-offs of BMW, etc
BYD has long copied all of its cars since day one .
The famous Toyota Corolla
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
True. They copied a phone like all the others.
@@dongshengdi773
True. They copied a car with doors and 4 wheels.
max and pro also they cant get new ideas for names..
Insanity, utter insanity.
You're channel is very valuable, but also very suppressed. Still a lot of thanks for uploading these videos
Very suppressed ? They are spamming misleading content on a daily basis and forwarded by all their far right sect members comrades to the glee of their american racist viewer base, if anything, they should get a banner like state sponsored media saying "This channel is financed by a sect that was banned from mainland China and has since been trying to get their revenge on them using defamation and outright criminal activities"
Aluminum's higher resistivity means you need heavier gauge wire to carry the same amount of current, or suffer resistive losses in the form of hot wires that waste battery life and could melt the insulation and start fires.
Car catch's on fire inside garage; $ 250,000 house burns down because of ev car.
not in China, if Xi says they are save, they are save, i will meet your soul in hell!
Or a higher voltage.
@@deth3021 true. But higher voltage also means any short becomes deadly. Is the risk worth the savings?
@dcc70 so you are saying that 800v isn't deadly?
Also bumping 12v system to 48v doesn't make it deadly.
You have too simplistic a worldview.
These are all just things that can be managed.
01:58 China pleather PVC doesnt last a year. They're made to flake and disintegrate. Activists wanted "eco friendly" plastics. This is it. 11:10 Aluminum wiring is not used in construction for very good reasons.
This is not eco friendly plastic. Thats polyurethane stretched over a shitty cusion. Actually hemp seats tend to last quite awhile
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
aluminum wiring for power distribution is used all the time in residential, commercial and industrial settings. the only thing its not used for is general purpose 15 and 20 amp power and lighting circuits.
Aluminum wire is not used for good reasons, but running hot is not one of them! The narrator also stated that the lower conductivity is made up for by increasing the cross section area. The heating issues is not because the wires are aluminum, but because they substituted a lower gauge to save money, which they would have done with copper as well.
The main issue with Al wiring is because _mixing_ different metals causes reactions. In a home, the various fittings are generally made for copper, and the rare Al house has to insert special adapters. Now guess what's another thing they can cheap out on?
The final issue is with how many times the wire can be flexed before it cracks.
Note that all the distribution cables you have overhead on towers and underground, from the powerplant to the residential substation, is all made of aluminum.
Nothing eco-friendly with PVC (or any plastics tbh).
Yup its a Porsche design copied
Every vehicle manufacturer copies from each other as computers make it so easy.
However, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!
It is a completely stolen design. Shame on thieves especially those who didn't understand what they stole and how to properly reproduce the stolen design.
@@ZoomZoomMX3 Ferdinand Porsche originally stole the design for his (or the Fuhrer's) volks-wagen (Beetle) from the Czech car-maker Tatra!
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
Every car copied another car. Even the iconic VW Beetle copied the Tatra T97 and got sued.
Calling mobile device with four wheels, big battery and powerful motor as Porsche competitor sounds pretty naive
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover!
@@stevie-ray2020 Ahahaha, you just wrecked yourself! Yeah "you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!" You should judge it by it's yellowing, moldy and rotting pages inside, just like your precious little bǎo shí mǐ. Here's your 50 cents
If you think about it, Tesla is NOT a car company... It's a technology company. Same with Xiaomi!
@@RJE48 Focus should be more on own designs and less rip offs. SU7 is based on BAIC platform, which seems to be poor quality or too advanced for regular chinese drivers...
@@RJE48Tesla is car company from the first place
This thing seemed to appear overnight. It's hardly surprising that it appears to have very limited testing and development.
People accepted a Vax without test why not a car?
XIAOMI make phones
Cars are A TOTALLY Different MONSTER
It takes at least decades of experience to make a good car - the materials science behind making a car that lasts it is very complex.
@@xraylifeit does not need to develop knowledge from zero, just pay high expertise people to do the work
@@teknosql4740 Manufacturing cars is much much more complex than you imagine. It involves 1000's of sub-contractors and suppliers and managing their quality throughout the entire chain.
Just the plastic paint coatings on a dashboard, or a gear wheel is a huge story within itself.
@@teknosql4740 yeah, thats not how it works.
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
what you get from a phone company
From a CHINESE company....
@@varanisshouyou4379 If your screen is on during a call, (to press mute) it either means your phone proximity sensor is faulty from new, your screen has been repaired badly or your screen settings are messed up....
Buy a car made by a phone company? Smart and innovative! Truly brave 🙏.
I bet if Apple make a car, you'd be in line to buy it too.
I would 100% give apple a deposit today if they were making a car
@@jackstraw262 Emm, Apple back down. They invest billions already but cancel the project. Apple just can't do it lmao.
@@keithframe3489 right.
Which is why *if* they decided to, I’d trust they would be capable
@@jackstraw262 Okay, fair enough. But steering wheel will not be included, sold separately for $7000.
Aluminum has a higher resistance to electric flow than copper, and higher resistance generates more heat in the wire. Aluminum is OK to use for low voltage over short distances, but NOT for an EV!
High voltage power lines consist of steel and aluminum not copper. Cheaper and more lightweight but thicker. Nevertheless this car is absolute crap.
@@olli1407 there's a big difference in stringing out aluminum/steel wires in the open air and apart from other wires, and confining aluminum wires in a small space with little airflow against other components.
@devo076 The biggest difference is the voltage.
New Energy Vehicle is a misnomer. Charging from 80% coal-powered station, ICE exhaust is cleaner. Old Energy Vehicle is more appropriate.
Also diesel & gasoline powered equipment is used to mine, transport, and process metals in EV batteries. The mining process destroys the ecology in those areas. Child labor is used to mine cobalt in the Congo.
Ohhhhh no!! Not the PorschMi !!🤣
"Made in China" = "Breaks out of the Box" in English.
Dollar store garbage... Don't even try to wash a made in china can opener it will break immediately after
You probably typed this on a device that was made in China.
@@ciklop4206 Assembled in China, 90% of the components were imported from other countries. With oversight in the supply chain to make sure no corners are being cut.
@@ciklop4206but approved with Western standards.
@@guill90 doubt it's 90%, although I do see where you pulled the number from lol. They tend to keep as much of the process in China due to labour and centralisation dud
When will people everywhere learn that EV's of all makes are far from "green" and are a foolish purchase?
In some Chinese cities you can't get plates if you don't buy EV
EVs made by Tesla are the most green, and with time it will increase, do t think this is a static situation, solar and wind plants are getting cheaper and increasing in numbers with time, green products will arrive exponentially, we are just in a transition state; Xiaomi does not know how to make EVs, let's see if they learn before their EV division goes backrupt.
Far cleaner than gas or diesel vehicles. What's your point?
Humanity typically doesn’t learn their lesson until it’s far too late…
@@Voltaje_YT The best Tesla with the latest Lithium cells only gets a pathetic 900 Power/Efficiency score. A Gasoline/Diesel gets a 4500 score. EV's are such a strain on the powergrids that they are causing brown-outs in just mid-sized cities and causing the Fast-Charge feature to be disabled at the charging stations. Plus the lithium mines have to strip 500,000cu. yds of earth to get enough lithium for just one EV. There's not enough lithium out there to sustain EV's. The largest mines in Australia and China have already been depleted 2yrs ago. They cause thousands of tons more of coal and natural gas to be burned at the powerplants. Sounds real "green" huh?? 😆
This sad idiotic EV fad will be gone in a couple years. Dealerships all over have announced they will not take any EV's on trade-in cause no one wants them.
As xiaomi phone user I just want to say that you must unlock the Car bootloader then use custom rom and kernel to make it worth while
Say hello to Xi Pooh bear
As an owner of a Redmi Note 10 who discovered that its VoLTE file wasn't doing its job when Vodafone turned off their 3G network here in Australia, I know what you mean!
The Note 10 is a 2yr old 4G phone, but fortunately I found an easy fix online, & I still love it!
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
true, xiaomi with custom rom rocks!
Ford CEO disagrees 🤣🤣🤣
SU7 will go down in history as the best mass-produced debut car ever made ⭐
MARK MY WORDS! 🎗
Made In China.
The best of the best. Value for money. Unlike the western products costing you an arm and a leg.
@@johntang4108but don't kill you
Dont underestimate china, just dont buy if you think its not good, they choose cheapest material to price purpose not mean they are not capable to build strong one, they have cutting edge tech to produce many thing
Breaks out of the box. xaxaxaa!! 😆😆😆😆
@@johntang4108 western products are made to a standard that lasts longer than one use.
With all they have been through, you'd think Chinese people would learn from some of their mistakes but, i just see the same mistakes over and over.
It looks expensive means I have to have it!
Chill, it's their first product. And other Chinese EVs are well made enough to compete with a lot of European and American cars. Don't just sip "china bad" coolaid, it's bad for your mental health.
They claim to be selling at a loss, but they're selling trash? How much of a loss could it have been if they skimp on the materials and only use low quality stuff that breaks within a year? The reason luxury cars are that expensive is because they use high quality material that doesn't break easily, or is extremely light (or both if carbon fiber)...
You can get some pretty decent cars for 30k USD (new) and most of them you will be able to use for over 10 years because they're not made out of trash.
never buy a car from company that is also making vacuum cleaners
That's Dyson
'China Fact Chasers' made a video on youtube about this cheap and crappy copy of a Porsche Taycan.
It’s cheap for a reason. The Chinese copy almost everything from the design perspective only. However, when it comes to engineering, craftsmanship, build quality, and more, they suck. They try to make their cars as cheap as possible. Always remember that you get what you pay for. Major automakers price their EVs higher but they produce acceptable level of quality. I don’t get it why don’t the Chinese build something of good quality and go head-to-head with the major automakers. The Chinese really love to do it cheap and affordable. In the long term, it may sound good; but in the long term, it would be very problematic.
You guys keep crying that they copy but besides the exterior, point to the intellectual property inside the car that you accuse them of copying. China haters only know how to cope by saying "copied" without ever driving a Chinese car lmao.
well Chery cars are pretty decent tho.
@@SoloKazama they keep improving, to be honest. But in the earlier days, when the Chery QQ was still available, their quality was very poor.
Craftsmanship 😂. You mean those robots?
@@Teresa8bigsalad the Chinese probably created robots that could cut cost down and build poor quality products as well 🤣
Lmao I’ll never pay $30K for a Chinese car.
Tesla will be next with their poor quality and inferior components
That’s BS and you know it cut the crap Tesla is clearly superior you need to stop listening to media or whatever you got your information from
Sh **, I have a Xiaomi phone😮, is it the same quality as EV? I'm afraid of, wait and see, if the same, never Xiaomi phone again!
Stick to samsung
Simply because they repair their phones
garbage
I thought their phones were decent in the past. But haven't bought one in a few years as the big 3 have a better user experience and price point
@@KanishQQuotes The same phones that had a tendency to blow up in your pocket ? I have a latest generation Note 13 Pro + and it hasn't given me a single problem and the quality is superb, this entire channel is a propaganda tool taking 3 videos out of context and generalising it as a problem on a countrywide scale.
@@BelayaBirdy I've been using Samsung devices since the original galaxy s2.
Also if every thing is so dandy in China why they restrict news
This goes for almost ALL Chinese products
I would never trust a Chinese car..
Never buy a car from a cell phone maker. 🤦♂🤣🤣🤣🤣
You preorder, you lose. But tbh, aluminium wiring is very popular in EVs. It's lighter and cheaper. BMW i3 uses alu wires in the battery, in interconnectors between modules. Besides, every battery has cells connected with aluminium tabs. It does NOT generate more heat because thicker gauge is used to compensate for higher resistance.
silver is heavier than aluminium, as well as 24x more expensive, by weight. they won't ever use silver
they are better at creating cruel and unusual cat snuffing videos than any their own tech
That woman who paid 300k is at fault herself. You do NOT pay 300k without a contract.
This is one of the main problems with China. Everybody wants to get their hands in the sectors that were hot like Real Estate and EVs. Why Xiaomi and Evergrande decided to get involve in the EVs? There are already so many players (originally more than 400 companies in EVs). Just stick to what you are good at and manage your business well.
Honestly that's kind of amazing that they found such a crappy material I don't know of any other material on earth that disintegrates or wears away that fast like did they make the seats out of butter
And how do you even have more leaks than there are places that hold fluid that don't even make sense there's probably only oil in the front and rear gear boxes how is oil coming out of the tires and in other places at the same time there shouldn't even be that much fluid in there
Exactly! This is an EV! There shouldn't be that much fluid to begin with!
Maybe it's not for lubrication, but a cooling-fluid or its for fire extinguisher purpose, heard chinese EVs are likely to overheat or to combust externally.
I think it would be a very clever way to include a fire extinguisher in the car. Maybe you can make them a micro transaction for when the car is burning.
For only 30000¥ you can purchase a immediate fireout feature.
Do you like to buy now?
They obviously blew the main feedline for the blinker fluid at all four clusters front and rear. Such shoddy workmanship should be criminal. Oh... wait... it's China. Never mind.
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
no one expected this, no one
But it unequivocally happens. Always! BTW I expected it to happen. After all... where are we talking about?
@@gersonalves8474 we are talking about the cars Xiaomi said they can do in 76 sseconds LOL
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@@ricardosousa11 yeap I know
Benz started making cars in 1885. They have been perfecting them ever since. My previous one did 240.000km. Once a year to the dealer for scheduled maintenance. Once there was an issue with the water pump. They didn't charge anything for the repair. We got a phone call from the dealer afterward to explain and apologise, "That should not have happened." Then it was rather sadly rear-ended. Too expensive to repair. so we took the money the insurance paid for it and bought a new car. Guess which brand. If people are so stupid to buy a car from a company that was making rather crappy cell-phones and decided somewhere last week "we're gonna make cars".... In my country there is a saying: if you burn your a**, you have to sit on the blisters.
They do not use aluminum wires in a car's wiring harness. Suicide with 4 wheels .
Actually they do
I believe it’s a mistake to underestimate the ability of Chinese manufacturers to learn from the mistakes of older models. China has the people, industry, and resources to innovate and improve constantly. Moreover, there are several Chinese EV models that have received excellent reviews. In the West, we may have become complacent and underestimated this competition.
we are not rich enough to buy cheap under spec products. how can a Tech giant simply copy and paste Porsche Taycan and interior graphics of Tesla? Chinese customers are very much brand oriented and they stick to their choice of proper cars when they can afford them. Porsche, BMW, Tesla etc..
Any actual users here? Here I do hear just general statements and some individual experiences. What I'm missing is some statistics for example in how many of total sold&used cars is specific issue etc...
I think they are too new to have much data to look at.
I think that Porshe CEO must be laughing out so loud 😅
Most U.S. homes have aluminum wire for the main runs, such as the street feed to the Main Breaker and from there to any Subpanels (usually 100 A USE-2). It is mandatory to use anti-corrosion grease at the connectors, but that is recommended for copper wire too. 1960's homes which used aluminum wire for the outlets (15 or 20 A) apparently didn't use grease, so suffered corrosion at connectors which gave high resistance heating and sometimes caused fires. So, no problem using aluminum wire for the high current runs in EV's, if designed correctly.
It should be named Xiaofu dreg
To the fears of European manufacturers of the Chinese car manufacturers, relax, it is not hard to see their products are absolutely dreadful all around and the support is even worst.
How many times I have bought Chinese products and feel regret, every single time, literally.
Ok prove it
I am a truck driver. I haven’t seen any BYD cars on the side of the road. They are now becoming popular in Australia
The reliability, and build, problem reports are mounting up. Not surprised though
Xiaomi made a joke about Apple giving up on making a car.... it turns out that Su7 buyers can only drive 39km more than Apple car buyers 😂.
Poor guy drove into china's economy...
i used aluminum wire for my car stero speakers. had to replace/strip and re wire after 2months due to corrosion. save $20 for the first install. but ended up have to do the work twice till i replaced it for copper
My house burned down because of aluminum electrical wiring. I mean down down, as in clear to the basement floor down. It's an interesting experience shoveling ashes which represent everything you own into a dumpster.
That one girl complaining about the payment plan after dumping all that money into the car is definitely the 1%.
Looks like she’s using a camera filter to give herself a V shaped chin.
Sure is nice to have rich daddies
Tesla was also scrutinized whenever they first came out, y’all don’t remember the fatal accidents and battery explosions? These are all easily fixable for a 1st gen manufactured car. And if this is a Porsche than the Chrysler 300 is a damn rolls royce. I wish I could buy one except for the shitty overpriced evs we get in the US
Never be the first to buy something from a new manufacturer. It's one thing when Apple decided to produce phones. Very similar to iPod / laptops. But, a phone company producing cars?
Even the iPhones had major issues (not Apple's fault). Worked in downtown SF in a modern relatively low floor building and our phones didn't work in the building. It was comical.
Product version 1.0 ... yeah no. That is for the Betatesters!
My personal experience of using Macs at university (plus how short-lived other Apple products belonging to others I know have lasted) convinced me to never purchase anything from Apple!
It's like a garage door company deciding to make nuclear submarines.
While i think that they may very well fix those issues, undercutting the competition by incurring losses does not 'convey seriousness'. Quite the opposite. In conveys desperation. But the same goes for almost all legacy car companies as well.
I dont believe this hater channel
Dangerous to use aluminum because of the cold creep. Higher chance of arcing unless regularly maintained.
Who the F eager to buy ANYTHING from the 1st batch?? Do you want to work as free QA??
Lol, like after depositing with tesla in the USA you get your car immediately
Oh, the damn information gap has led many to believe that Xiaomi cars appeared out of nowhere. I think this is due to a lack of understanding of the information from China. Xiaomi's car factory is operated by BAIC (Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Co.), and the project was initiated several years ago. BAIC Group serves as a contract manufacturer for many automotive brands such as Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, and Foton. As for the technology of Xiaomi cars, Xiaomi has poached a large number of talents from Geely Automobile Research Institute, including the head of the institute. Speaking of Geely Automobile Group, I think some people might be familiar with it. This company owns Volvo, Lynk & Co, Geely, and smart, and even now holds substantial shares in Aston Martin and Mercedes-Benz. I hope that a random video on a TH-cam channel should not sway the judgment of an intellectually capable person.
Let me repeat the specs of the Xiaomi SU7:
Length (mm): 4997
Width (mm): 1963
Height (mm): 1455
Wheelbase (mm): 3000
CLTC pure electric range (km): 700
Official 0-100 km/h acceleration (s): 2.78
Price: 299,900 RMB, approximately 41,200 USD
I wonder how many people in this channel are excited to believe that one batch of cars by one of hundreds of car makers in China having issues at the moment can represent all the cars this company and all Chinese companies will ever make. If anyone was actually worried about low quality Chinese cars then no tariffs would be needed.
Countless car brands have had issues that required crazy amounts of recalls. Do you see people saying this means “all German/japanese cars have faulty breaks” because of that? Only when speaking about China do you actually attempt to easily accept this kind of bad logic.
Even the way the information is presented makes it seem like it doesn’t know or care about the car industry at all and just wants to get some of that congressional anti China money.
LOL
They can't even make a car that lasts long enough for a test drive
When I desire a Good Laugh, mes amis, I view one of these posts. MOST AMUSING !
China and quality is an oxymoron
Source ? Proof ?
This video showed no proof
Tesla uses aluminum in some of their key electrical parts, like the main pyro fuse that feeds all power to the car. Doh!
you buy byd Atto dolphin seal ev they also falls apart too and its very expensive car price to buy,
I rather buy japan or india car even the price bit higher for long-lasting and good quality
Crazy world we live in
I bought my Lexus GS 450h 2012 and never had problems compared with ANY other car companies who had from small to huge problems Lexus never have problems.
Lexus are built like Tanks
I bought a byd .
@@pegcity4eva byd is built better
40% cancellation? Are you sure?
Makes sense. Most the purchases were scalpers but they changed the rules so the scalpers lost their deposits 😂
Its a first car and they really did try stop hating while its not even released to the public
This channel is always negative about China. What is your agenda?
This page is pure propaganda. If you actually want real news from China and not read all the people who are envious of them theres many other channels to check out.
It’s a propaganda channel from Taiwan and NED sponsored.
@@wichaipongthadaporn2026they don’t even need to be sponsored. People love to live in a fantasy world of hate
But the media claims it's a "Tesla killer", just iike the fabled Apple Car and everything else.
it in the chinese dna to build only the cheapest possible junk.its called tofu dreg mentality.
China is great at copying everything, except for quality
The Mitsubishi Lancer is the best car in the world. Unfortunately I don‘t have one 😢
Toyota Landcruiser can go 800K on original engine and gearbox - the wait list is more than 2 years for one though.
TOYOTA IS THE BEST CAR IN THE WORLD
Don’t forget NSU.
I used it before but sorry I don’t think it is a good car at all.
When the first import cars from Japan landed on western shores, we were laughing. When the first import cars from Korea landed on western shores, we were laughing. Now we are laughing no more.
ok boomer
TofuMi will conquer the world 🇨🇳…🤣
Do you get 8 years warranty on chinese cars like Hyundai & Kia?
You get 10 years
Hyundai and Kia are koreans😅
What is it with the Chinese, anything nice and shiny seems to hypnotise them. 😅😅
Happens to everyone, specially to someone who made EVERYTHING for the 1st time … full support to Xiaomi
Just buy toyota, cheap but durable.
Xiaomi is better
There are 100% doubts when people come across this kind of video. No country dares to risk its reputation by exporting unchecked products.
In this video, says- customers are complaining and also says- the care will start delivering at the end of this month, april. Today- april12.
Haha what a joke with this channel
Yes it is a joke
My 21 year old Japanese car will outlast all of the modern Chinese EV's, and Tesla's for that matter!