Never get tired of that mini series. Listened to the audiobook recently on a long drive, it’s great how much the mini series really stuck with book even to the point of using direct book dialogue in the mini series script!!!
We can thank the late John F. Kennedy for ruining the hat business. He didn’t want to cover up his hairdo or mess up his hair, so he was one of few men who didn’t regularly wear a hat back then. Unfortunately it caught on.
I started wearing an original Panama Jack hat back in 2020, as a summer hat. I’ve bought a few since then but didn’t wear them often; until a I bought my Stetson crushable. It’s mainly a cooler weather hat and very casual. Now I need someone for spring and fall.
You look just like Tom Donovan! Thanks for this video. I’ve been looking at these hats for a long time. I have a lot of other hats, but never Stetson and has a huge John Wayne fan, I think this is the hat for me. I really appreciate the unboxing video. And I really appreciate getting a view of your man cave. You got a lot of cool stuff there. I’d like to take a closer look at someday but as man caves go it’s one of the best. Thanks again. Keep the videos coming.
Just ordered my peace maker thanks to your video! Plus, planning a business trip to Witchita Falls TX and again, thanks to you, I’ll be stopping in to the John Wayne experience in Fort Worth. Wish I could stop by your place for a bourbon and sharing stories of John Wayne who also was loved by John Wayne! Here’s my bit of fandom. Back in ‘68 when I was 8 years old, my grandmother in LA was still working as a script supervisor on set for a lot of movies. She was particularly close friends with Howard Hawkes. Thanks to that friendship she was able to visit with John Wayne on the studio lot and he signed a postcard picture of him to me. That’s as close as I got to my western movie hero. Thanks again for your great videos, and sharing so much great trivia on all things so many of us western movie fans love.
Thanks for the review. I bought my Stetson Peacemaker after watching this video. I’m very happy. Got it today. I’ll be as busy wearing it as a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.
And one more hat from one of his movies that reminds me of this peacemaker. My favorite Christmas movie The Three Godfathers. Again the creased on the crown is more of a fedora pinch front, but it looks a lot like the peacemaker color and shape.
I’ve been to the John Wayne experience before if you like John Wayne then you WILL 100 PERCENT LOVE IT they sell the John Wayne collection hats there at the gift shop as welp
Hey now, Festus Haggen is who got me into hats in the first place 20 years ago. I've even made exact replicas of his hat. The character and natural wear on that thing is amazing and you can tell it was actually a very high quality felt. Poorer quality felts don't age the same.
As for which hat it most resembles from his movies, I’m leaning towards The Commancheros and The Shootist hat.. Now I know that a lot of his hats had more about fedora front pinch crease in the crown. But these two movies really have the shape of the brim and the color, dead on I think. But for me the fact that it’s a John Wayne hat from the collection celebrating his bigger than life movie characters plus has a Gus crease, which so many of us have come to love from watching Lonesome Dove, makes this hat, just a culminationof iconic John Wayne collectors items with a nod to Gus. It’s also kind of nice that the initials on the inside match my own.
I would say you look more like Wilford Brimley. Lol. JK. That hat looks really good on you. I may have to get one now. I didn't think I could pull it off but I'm having second thoughts.
Nice hat! The liner is in my opinion one of Stetsons best looking liners! Can't wait for your next video! You always bring out some nice hats and fair reviews
My grandma and I would watch old westerns and she adored John Wayne. One of my most favorite possessions is a Resistol Fort Hat she got for me. We waited, if I remember correctly almost 6 months for it to be made and it's a beautiful hat. The first movie we watched of the Duke's was Hondo so I loved the fort style!
I've been eyeing the Silverbelly Stetson Fort hat myself but wasn't sure if I'd like the distressed look that they apply to it. Thanks to your comment, I may end up ordering one...
I’m a recent fan of your channel and new texas resident. I appreciate the breakdown of hat styles and confidence you display in wearing them. Used your videos as a starting point while researching before ordering a custom this week. Boots I’ve worn for a few decades, hats are fairly new to me. So keep the content up helps newbies.
I don't recall the Duke ever wearing that style of hat. He preferred taller crowns anyway. Incidentally, the costume designer, Luster Bayless, put together Wayne's wardrobe, including the hats, in most of his movies from the early 60s onwards. Luster said that he used to present Wayne with around 20 hats before each movie & he would pick one out & say " Yeah, that should do." 🤠
I hope when they find the dog who stole the sacred belt buckle, he is strung up immediately. Love the hat. He was the one I looked up when I was growing up. He inspired me and "supported" me by His Words and Sayings. He still stands for what I wish America would go back to. He was My Hero.
I was at the John Wayne Museum last week. I found a Peacemaker hat in black on display. It looked great and I decided to buy it and have it shipped home. I was assured it would be boxed and shipped the next day. It arrived today. It was not in the original box. I found the hat to be crocked. The crease and brim curve were off 10 degrees left of center. I guess I'll go to the boot corral tomorrow and try to get it corrected. Stetson's quality control must be a little off this year.
You have no idea how much I enjoyed Watching this video! Not just because of the hat, which is a must have for me. Having the same initials as the Duke, I love that dark purple silk interior with JW on it. Also I loved the fan and movie history you layered this video with. I even was happy to Superman in the cabinet just behind you along with his fellow DC heroes. What a great video, and from one nerd on these subjects to another, wish we could share a beer and talk about a lot more. My admiration with Duke, and Republic Pictures or Pappy Ford, also was handed down from my dad AND his mom. She made it possible for me as a 6 year old kid in 1966, when my grandma was working as a production assistant on El Dorado,( Howard Hawkes always hired her apparently) she introduced me to John Wayne in Old Tuscon and I shook his hand. Yessir, I think we would have plenty to talk about. Sorry to go on, Thanks again for making my day by making this video!
Thanks for the comment and the kind words, Bubba. I think all of us who are of a certain age share common experiences like this, but, sadly, they are largely lost on today's youth. I'm betting John Wayne will be largely forgotten not too many years from now. It's up to oldtimers like us to keep passing down his memory.
I bet he’ll become a cult classic again. Just about the time when people without tattoos are the cool ones kids! But I for one am glad I got to grow up with him (on my TV and in Movie theaters!) always been a huge part of growing up. Like George Reeves was, in black and white on my little portable with UHF.
So after watching this video last month, it was the first time I heard of the John Wayne collection. Looked em up, fell in love with the Blackthorn. Only place that had it in stock was the JW Museum in Texas, and I ordered one. Absolutely love it. It's the best fitting hat out of all my Stetsons. It also has the same quote printed on the band.
Great to hear that this channel is spreading the word about the John Wayne collection. I'm still looking for the 11 Stageline from the JW Collection in size 7-3/4 but have not yet had any luck.
That is a truly nice looking hat. I enjoy your content and the history behind it. John Wayne has always been one of my favorites. I've seen most all of his movies and I really like Rio Lobo too, but most all of his movies are good. Take care til next time
That is a beautiful hat, I would be proud to have that one, and in the immortal words “That ain’t brag that’s just fact” from the tv series Guns of Will Sonnet
Thank you for a great video. Red River still is my favourite western. I've always worn a brimmed western hat, when all of my friends and colleagues wore baseball caps. I stood out from the rest of them and didn't give a damn what others thought of me about not wearing a baseball cap.
Thanks for the kind words. After a malignant skin cancer surgery and two facial reconstruction surgeries that followed, I, too, have abandoned baseball caps for the wide-brimmed hat camp and couldn't give two tinkers dams what anybody else thinks about it. Appreciate you for watching the channel.
That is a fine looking hat and you do look good wearing it. For anyone who likes John Wayne and his movies, I highly recommend the book John Wayne: The Life and Legend Paperback by Scott Eyman . I learned more about Stagecoach just reading the Preference than from any documentaries. Excellent book and the author interviewed Duke.
@@oddjobtriumph1635 Glad you are enjoying it. It's not just a book about him, but a history of movies. I got so much about how the art of movie making progressed as his career progressed.
I didn't know the buckle was stolen .... Crazy ... I don't the silversmith but I call BS on that ...that's terrible...love the Duke amd your channel... Definitely not festus ... Looks good man 👍 .. Ive always found that a hat picks me -usually
I havent bought a felt cowboy hat since 1990. I had 2, a 2x Bailey and a 4x stetson. And back then I always felt that Bailey was a better hat at just 2x. Interesting.. lol
And another thing! Last year, I searched high and low to acquire a Rooster Cogburn hat. I them set to work steaming, cleaning, reshaping, fitting an exact band as Rooster Cogburn’s hat. Then distressed it with salt stains, dirt powder and sold it to a collector, after wearing it for a year.
The Resistol versions are quite rare as they switched to the Stetson branding rather quickly. One site I saw said they made only 600 of each hat under the Resistol label, but you can never be certain what you read on the Internet is 100% accurate.
@@historynerdsmancave7567 I got on Stetson’s wait list for it. They emailed me they had one in 7 3/8 and I pulled the trigger. Check out their Buffalo line I purchased the Powder River. Great fitting hat. I have a video on it over on my channel.
Bought a JW Chinook hat back when I lived in Washington. One of my favorites to use when I do cowboy action shooting. Sadly the hat box wasn't that cool.
The silver mine is a great gus as well. Buffalo collection. Brim a 1/4 smaller. 3 3/4 . Looking good with a suit. The hat band needs to be replaced. Diamond silver concho jump out too much. A nice thin horsehair hatband make it very nice.
Which John Wayne movie hat does the Peacemaker hat look like to me? It does look a lot like the Duke’s hat from Liberty Valance. Tho that film hat had a sort of Montana Peak crease. The hat John Wayne in The Three Godfathers, looks a bit like this Peacemaker though the crease is still different. Last vote for a similar look, minus the crease or band, is the hat John Wayne wore in The Shootist. That’s my choices. Lastly, you look great in that hat. Must feel great wearing it! I’ve gone through a lot of Cowboy hats in my time from Open Road and Cattleman styles to a Gus or two and a Rio Bravo “Chance” hat - hole and all. So I might have a little experience in my old brain to say, that Peacemaker is a gorgeous hat and I swear, you look dog gone good in it.
Lonesome Dove = Best western ever
Never get tired of that mini series. Listened to the audiobook recently on a long drive, it’s great how much the mini series really stuck with book even to the point of using direct book dialogue in the mini series script!!!
This hat looks great on you. It suits you well Sir. Thank you for sharing! Liked and subscribed. 👍
Great looking hat. Looks good on you
Coffee County Alabama here ..... I'm working to bring back the idea of men wearing proper hats.
Me too, in Richmond, Virginia!
We can thank the late John F. Kennedy for ruining the hat business. He didn’t want to cover up his hairdo or mess up his hair, so he was one of few men who didn’t regularly wear a hat back then. Unfortunately it caught on.
I'm with you bama.
Agree!
Yet another Richmond, Va guy here. Proud to rock my cowboy hat
I started wearing an original Panama Jack hat back in 2020, as a summer hat. I’ve bought a few since then but didn’t wear them often; until a I bought my Stetson crushable.
It’s mainly a cooler weather hat and very casual. Now I need someone for spring and fall.
Hilarious - the future King of England "looked like a yahoo." I must agree the prince's hat was rather unbecoming. Thanks for the great unveiling.
1977 right here in Calgary, Alberta for the Calgary Stampede. Frightful. LOL
Damn! That hat makes you look exactly like John Wayne!
You look just like Tom Donovan! Thanks for this video. I’ve been looking at these hats for a long time. I have a lot of other hats, but never Stetson and has a huge John Wayne fan, I think this is the hat for me. I really appreciate the unboxing video. And I really appreciate getting a view of your man cave. You got a lot of cool stuff there. I’d like to take a closer look at someday but as man caves go it’s one of the best. Thanks again. Keep the videos coming.
Just ordered my peace maker thanks to your video! Plus, planning a business trip to Witchita Falls TX and again, thanks to you, I’ll be stopping in to the John Wayne experience in Fort Worth. Wish I could stop by your place for a bourbon and sharing stories of John Wayne who also was loved by John Wayne! Here’s my bit of fandom. Back in ‘68 when I was 8 years old, my grandmother in LA was still working as a script supervisor on set for a lot of movies. She was particularly close friends with Howard Hawkes. Thanks to that friendship she was able to visit with John Wayne on the studio lot and he signed a postcard picture of him to me. That’s as close as I got to my western movie hero. Thanks again for your great videos, and sharing so much great trivia on all things so many of us western movie fans love.
Jealous of the postcard. That’s a treasure!
Dear History Nerd, you look marvelous! Wear with pride daily.
Thanks for the review. I bought my Stetson Peacemaker after watching this video. I’m very happy. Got it today. I’ll be as busy wearing it as a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.
And one more hat from one of his movies that reminds me of this peacemaker. My favorite Christmas movie The Three Godfathers. Again the creased on the crown is more of a fedora pinch front, but it looks a lot like the peacemaker color and shape.
John Wayne help put patriotism in the USA. We need more like him. I know I'm proud be an American
Thanks to some of his military movies.
Got my JW Peacemaker hat 2 weeks ago and I love it. Wore it to church that first Sunday
I’ve been to the John Wayne experience before if you like John Wayne then you WILL 100 PERCENT LOVE IT they sell the John Wayne collection hats there at the gift shop as welp
Amen Clint, that's a copy of a GUS CREASE❤
JW my behind!
I left Texas 52 years ago and your show brings back many fond memories. Thanks. I really enjoy it.
Where the hell did you go?
Hey now, Festus Haggen is who got me into hats in the first place 20 years ago. I've even made exact replicas of his hat. The character and natural wear on that thing is amazing and you can tell it was actually a very high quality felt. Poorer quality felts don't age the same.
Looks great.
That’s a handsome hat … you look good in it !!!!
You wear a Gus cowboy hat very well, much better than me.
Never be concerned about how others think you look if you like how you look !
You look great in that hat! Love your channel
As for which hat it most resembles from his movies, I’m leaning towards The Commancheros and The Shootist hat.. Now I know that a lot of his hats had more about fedora front pinch crease in the crown. But these two movies really have the shape of the brim and the color, dead on I think. But for me the fact that it’s a John Wayne hat from the collection celebrating his bigger than life movie characters plus has a Gus crease, which so many of us have come to love from watching Lonesome Dove, makes this hat, just a culminationof iconic John Wayne collectors items with a nod to Gus. It’s also kind of nice that the initials on the inside match my own.
Thank you very much for this review!
John Wayne style hat no if an and or buts nice
I went to the John Wayne Experience in Ft Worth a couple of months ago. It’s definitely worth the visit. 🤠❤️🇺🇸
I would say you look more like Wilford Brimley. Lol. JK. That hat looks really good on you. I may have to get one now. I didn't think I could pull it off but I'm having second thoughts.
A Gus looks great on you!
Nice hat! The liner is in my opinion one of Stetsons best looking liners! Can't wait for your next video! You always bring out some nice hats and fair reviews
The hat looks good on you. Enjoy your channel
Good looking Stetson
It looks great on you!
Love how the crown dips down in the front. Awesome video. Amazing hat.
that is an awesome hat, happy new year gretting from nogales sonora mexico.
My grandma and I would watch old westerns and she adored John Wayne. One of my most favorite possessions is a Resistol Fort Hat she got for me. We waited, if I remember correctly almost 6 months for it to be made and it's a beautiful hat. The first movie we watched of the Duke's was Hondo so I loved the fort style!
I've been eyeing the Silverbelly Stetson Fort hat myself but wasn't sure if I'd like the distressed look that they apply to it. Thanks to your comment, I may end up ordering one...
Nice looking hat…you look good under it!
looks good on you. 👍
Thanks for the explanation on the 4X vs. 6X etc. over the years.
Great looking hat!
Looks good on you.
Thanks for the run down!
Nice hat. But the COOLEST hat was the battered crooked old warrior from Rio Bravo.
The Duke was the best of all time!
I’m a recent fan of your channel and new texas resident. I appreciate the breakdown of hat styles and confidence you display in wearing them. Used your videos as a starting point while researching before ordering a custom this week. Boots I’ve worn for a few decades, hats are fairly new to me. So keep the content up helps newbies.
Been to his birthplace, did not know of the John Wayne Experience, time for a road trip!
I call shotgun!
Looks good! Great story
I don't recall the Duke ever wearing that style of hat. He preferred taller crowns anyway. Incidentally, the costume designer, Luster Bayless, put together Wayne's wardrobe, including the hats, in most of his movies from the early 60s onwards. Luster said that he used to present Wayne with around 20 hats before each movie & he would pick one out & say " Yeah, that should do." 🤠
Thats a real good look on you brother! I like that crown better than the typical "gus"
I hope when they find the dog who stole the sacred belt buckle, he is strung up immediately. Love the hat. He was the one I looked up when I was growing up. He inspired me and "supported" me by His Words and Sayings. He still stands for what I wish America would go back to. He was My Hero.
Beautiful hat. Informative.
Love it and it looks great on you.
Looks great & Note9 alot of money
Wow David....you look just like John Wayne from the forehead up!!!!! Impressive!
I know how you feel looking hats in your size, I wear a 7 3/4 as well.
That is a fine looking hat.
Nice hat...and love Lonesome Dove! Yes that does look like a Gus hat..im getting one lol
I was at the John Wayne Museum last week. I found a Peacemaker hat in black on display. It looked great and I decided to buy it and have it shipped home. I was assured it
would be boxed and shipped the next day. It arrived today. It was not in the original box. I found the hat to be crocked. The crease and brim curve were off 10 degrees left of
center. I guess I'll go to the boot corral tomorrow and try to get it corrected. Stetson's quality control must be a little off this year.
A fine piece of headgear.👍
I'm proud you have it in your collection. Well done.
Cooler than Fonzies jacket. LOL Perfect description. Great presentation. Thanks.
You will love the JW Museum. Went last year and LOVED it!
You have no idea how much I enjoyed Watching this video! Not just because of the hat, which is a must have for me. Having the same initials as the Duke, I love that dark purple silk interior with JW on it. Also I loved the fan and movie history you layered this video with. I even was happy to Superman in the cabinet just behind you along with his fellow DC heroes. What a great video, and from one nerd on these subjects to another, wish we could share a beer and talk about a lot more. My admiration with Duke, and Republic Pictures or Pappy Ford, also was handed down from my dad AND his mom. She made it possible for me as a 6 year old kid in 1966, when my grandma was working as a production assistant on El Dorado,( Howard Hawkes always hired her apparently) she introduced me to John Wayne in Old Tuscon and I shook his hand. Yessir, I think we would have plenty to talk about. Sorry to go on, Thanks again for making my day by making this video!
Thanks for the comment and the kind words, Bubba. I think all of us who are of a certain age share common experiences like this, but, sadly, they are largely lost on today's youth. I'm betting John Wayne will be largely forgotten not too many years from now. It's up to oldtimers like us to keep passing down his memory.
I bet he’ll become a cult classic again. Just about the time when people without tattoos are the cool ones kids! But I for one am glad I got to grow up with him (on my TV and in Movie theaters!) always been a huge part of growing up. Like George Reeves was, in black and white on my little portable with UHF.
So after watching this video last month, it was the first time I heard of the John Wayne collection. Looked em up, fell in love with the Blackthorn. Only place that had it in stock was the JW Museum in Texas, and I ordered one. Absolutely love it. It's the best fitting hat out of all my Stetsons. It also has the same quote printed on the band.
Great to hear that this channel is spreading the word about the John Wayne collection. I'm still looking for the 11 Stageline from the JW Collection in size 7-3/4 but have not yet had any luck.
That sits on you like it was yours for years...suites you very well.
Looking pretty sharp
That is a truly nice looking hat. I enjoy your content and the history behind it. John Wayne has always been one of my favorites. I've seen most all of his movies and I really like Rio Lobo too, but most all of his movies are good. Take care til next time
A subtle Montana crease is my cup of tea. BTW I also have a 7 3/4 noggin so I feel you hermano! Feliz Ano Nuevo.
About the third video of yours i have watched. I love the hats and im a history buff to so keep them coming
Nice hat! I sure wish it came in a 6X or higher, though.
I’m so glad I happen to find you on TH-cam. Very informative.
Not as glad as I am that you found the channel. . .keep watching and thanks.
My Stetson which I purchased a few years ago is wool. I don't know what grade it's supposed to be and I don't care.
looks very good.
That is a beautiful hat, I would be proud to have that one, and in the immortal words “That ain’t brag that’s just fact” from the tv series Guns of Will Sonnet
Nice hat! Looks good on you. I did notice that belt buckle in the sons of Katie elder. Thanks for the information.
To my surprise, that hat actually looks very nice on you!
Thank you for a great video. Red River still is my favourite western. I've always worn a brimmed western hat, when all of my friends and colleagues wore baseball caps. I stood out from the rest of them and didn't give a damn what others thought of me about not wearing a baseball cap.
Thanks for the kind words. After a malignant skin cancer surgery and two facial reconstruction surgeries that followed, I, too, have abandoned baseball caps for the wide-brimmed hat camp and couldn't give two tinkers dams what anybody else thinks about it. Appreciate you for watching the channel.
Love the videos brother keep them coming
You’re right they’re hard to find
That is a fine looking hat and you do look good wearing it. For anyone who likes John Wayne and his movies, I highly recommend the book John Wayne: The Life and Legend Paperback by Scott Eyman . I learned more about Stagecoach just reading the Preference than from any documentaries. Excellent book and the author interviewed Duke.
I'm listening to the Audio book at the moment .....absolutely love John Wayne and his Movies ......the Book is superb
@@oddjobtriumph1635 Glad you are enjoying it. It's not just a book about him, but a history of movies. I got so much about how the art of movie making progressed as his career progressed.
I didn't know the buckle was stolen .... Crazy ... I don't the silversmith but I call BS on that ...that's terrible...love the Duke amd your channel... Definitely not festus ... Looks good man 👍 .. Ive always found that a hat picks me -usually
Happy New Year!
Looks good
I havent bought a felt cowboy hat since 1990. I had 2, a 2x Bailey and a 4x stetson. And back then I always felt that Bailey was a better hat at just 2x. Interesting.. lol
Great looking hat
Looking good, Pilgrim!
You look really great in that hat
Keep up the good work…
Looks good on ya!!
Thanks David, just went to the John Wayne Experience online. Didnt get a hat but I got a bottle bourbon
Beautiful hat
Nice one. Just looked it up, readily available for about one fiddy...
Gus crown in front is 3 3/4", BTW
Cool hat. I would wear it!
Looks good on you sr!
you look real good.
Great video and some very interesting history. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
By the way, nice man cave 👍
Appreciate your kind words. Keep watching the channel.
And another thing! Last year, I searched high and low to acquire a Rooster Cogburn hat. I them set to work steaming, cleaning, reshaping, fitting an exact band as Rooster Cogburn’s hat. Then distressed it with salt stains, dirt powder and sold it to a collector, after wearing it for a year.
I have that same hat made by Resistol in black. It has a small John Wayne hat pin on the band. Love mine.
The Resistol versions are quite rare as they switched to the Stetson branding rather quickly. One site I saw said they made only 600 of each hat under the Resistol label, but you can never be certain what you read on the Internet is 100% accurate.
Made a lot more then 600 of each hat
Great video. Huge John Wayne fan. I just purchased the 11 Stageline hat myself. Thanks for sharing lots of great information.
Been searching all over for the Stageline. That can be a hard hat to find in any size, much less the 7 3/4 that I wear.
@@historynerdsmancave7567 I got on Stetson’s wait list for it. They emailed me they had one in 7 3/8 and I pulled the trigger. Check out their Buffalo line I purchased the Powder River. Great fitting hat. I have a video on it over on my channel.
Bought a JW Chinook hat back when I lived in Washington. One of my favorites to use when I do cowboy action shooting. Sadly the hat box wasn't that cool.
The silver mine is a great gus as well. Buffalo collection. Brim a 1/4 smaller. 3 3/4 . Looking good with a suit. The hat band needs to be replaced. Diamond silver concho jump out too much. A nice thin horsehair hatband make it very nice.
Which John Wayne movie hat does the Peacemaker hat look like to me? It does look a lot like the Duke’s hat from Liberty Valance. Tho that film hat had a sort of Montana Peak crease. The hat John Wayne in The Three Godfathers, looks a bit like this Peacemaker though the crease is still different. Last vote for a similar look, minus the crease or band, is the hat John Wayne wore in The Shootist. That’s my choices. Lastly, you look great in that hat. Must feel great wearing it! I’ve gone through a lot of Cowboy hats in my time from Open Road and Cattleman styles to a Gus or two and a Rio Bravo “Chance” hat - hole and all. So I might have a little experience in my old brain to say, that Peacemaker is a gorgeous hat and I swear, you look dog gone good in it.
Patty cool JW hat that is. John Wayne all the way pilgrim!!🤠🏜👍👌
I bought the Peacemaker last May 2022 in Pigeon Forge, TN. at Stages West.
Very cool, what about James Arness, from Gunsmoke. Looking for that now.