I agree, Honda needed to do something to compete for an affordable hybrid commuter car. Honda builds a decent product. However, Toyota countered Honda by building the Prius "C", which is even less expensive than the Honda, but still delivers better fuel mileage and reliability. Toyota is truly the leader in hybrid technology. I must also add that not all owners of Prii buy the cars to be eco-friendly, instead it adds up to fuel cost and reliability. The Prius is a truly advanced commuter car for the masses. It makes a wonderful family car too!
@@alaricace8118 About 8 years ago i bought a 2010 Insight with 220K miles. I drove it for work for 3 years, putting 110K on it. I hit a deer at 330K miles. It never broke down, i changed the front brakes once.
One of the things they don't mention in this video is that the Honda Insight "tutors" you on how to drive efficiently. A great deal of gasoline savings is based on how you drive your car as well as how efficient the engine/aero is. There are tons of people who drive hybrids thinking they're getting great milage but really could be getting much more out of it by driving differently.
Listening for the electric whine and tire noise of the Prius is particularly tough on busier roads, but it is possible to hear them if you're in a suburban area or a school zone-if you're familiar with their sound. They're also dead silent if the operator just lets off the accelerator to slow down (say for turning into a shopping center driveway) instead of hitting the brakes.
Im all about saving money in cars. In the used car market the Insight is very affordable I never driven a Prius and it is attractive but it seems a bit older I.e. for an older crowd whereas the Insight is more youthful and fun.
I had a 2011 Insight ES ,got it because the Saab 93 I had was getting 23 MPG on the daily commute.The Insight put this up to 43 MPG.I have now got a Gen 4 2016 Prius & 65 MPG,the Prius is a much better car ,more like the Saab in size & comfort but is very expensive compared to the Honda . The Hybrid technology works & I have no problem recommending it to anyone. BTW the mileage figures are Imperial not US gallons
Comparing these two cars is like comparing an ES 350 to an Accord or a TL to a Camry. While they technically achieve the same goals, one has a lot more to offer in the way of features, smoothness and refinement then the other. The Prius has a lot more to offer. I read that Toyota is going to keep making the 2 generation Prius at the same starting price as the Insight.
Between 3rd august 2011 and 5th august 2012, my 1995 Citroen ZX 1900cc diesel estate drove 9217 miles, used £1098.28 of fuel and has averaged 54.14 miles per gallon. It cost me £260 off ebay and i bought it unseen. It hasn't let me down once, it has astounded people at how much crap i can get in the back in one go. It is quiet, doesn't burn oil and apart from the odd dent here and there, looks good. I'm the third owner and love it to bits! Why fork out thousands for a new car?
It's the production of the batteries that bring the prius down. The nickel is actually mined and smelted in Sudbury, Ontario (Canada) by Inco. The nickel is then shipped to a refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel goes to China to produce nickel foam. Then, it goes to Japan. In Japan Panasonic manufactures the battery itself, then it's off to the Toyota plant for final vehicle assembly. Lastly the cars are shipped to the United States, completing the world tour required for a Prius battery.
Where as petrol and diesel are drilled for in wells and seabed all over the world, then shipped to a refinery, then shipped to different countries, then road transported all over those countries, Mmmm speaking of world tours. The more we use the more that is drilled for and on and on.....
@@roywalker7512 exactly. The battery only has to be produced one time and then functions for 10-15 years, whereas that 40 or 50 litres of gas in the tank has to be produced every few weeks for the entirety of the car’s lifetime.
HONDA CVT had manufacturing TSBs in 2015, Prius has bttr, HP at 134 and heat than Honda 1.3 . I LOVE the 1.8 engine w/ market research experience. NOTE to MANUF: Please DO NOT remove TIRE sizes nums, ridiculous!
The thing is that because the Prius gets even the slightest amount more in miles per gallon, various governments have provided incentives to buy one over the Honda Insight. In the northeastern US, there is an electronic toll system known as EZ-Pass for which Prius owners are eligible for a 10% discount. In the U.K., trims of both vehicles are exempt from U.K. Road Tax, although this applies to more Prius models.
I have been looking at possibly buying a hybrid. One thing that worries me is the Priusdoes not have a connection as such to the output to the wheels. IF a fuse or breaker pops and the electric drive system stops so does the car. The Honda has a "standard" drive unit that assisted by the motor. If the motor stops you can limp on in to a dealer not sit on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck. BUT I also dont understand Hondas claim that the valves stay CLOSED to let the engine freewheel?
Welp, 15 years later… the Prius has proven itself to be one of the most reliable cars on the road. And the transmission is bullet-proof and is never a point of failure in the car. And even without a functioning battery, the Prius can still drive, albeit with a reduced fuel economy of course.
well its so clear why hp for toyota is higher its 1800 cc engine and honda is just 1300. i have toyota vits and its 1300 cc, i can imagine what kinda hp that hoda has.
The Insight is a car, The Prius is a space ship with wheels.... I'd definitely buy the Insight over the Prius, IMO it looks A LOT better, is cheaper and it's lighter (like he said, it's a more nimbler car, a lot more fun to drive)
Prius has so much more power, and yet Honda beats it @ 1/4 mile.... Prius starts @ about $25,000, Honda @ $20,000... I think I'll just keep that $5,000 and fill up my gas for 3-4 years:)) and when the lease is over, I'll get the HYDROGEN powered Honda that comes out next year:))
well only point i'll add is there is over 147k Prius sold and only 4800 insights sold.and Honda is going to stop making insights since know one are buying that integrated motor assist gas engine.
Sadly now after 5 years, the Insight owners have sued Honda over false MPG claims (over-estimated)..and Honda is dis-continuing Insight production. For most drivers, the Prius delivers well over it's stated mpg...and 58mpg on highway while driving at the speed limit. That's under 40mpg vs upwards of 60mpg....50% more. The fourth gen Prius is due out now - with lighter curb weight and further increased mpg. The Insight is a failed design...too bad, it looked great!
I don't know why he trivializes the substantial ~8 MPG difference, which could add up to quite a lot on long trips. Both cars can exceed their EPA specs with driving techniques.
@RnB123100 That's an interesting argument - I checked out the batteries and the Prius has been called the "biggest user of rare-earth metals in the world"... perhaps not a "carbon footprint" put possibly something worse in a different way. Definitely something to think about!
@omendark123 I like Nissan Leaf, but the price difference just makes a Honda Fit more economical. A 2011 Honda Fit is $18K. A 2011 Leaf costs $38K. A difference of $20K. That would mean I would have to drive the Leaf for 19 years (if I only use free charging stations) for it to be worth it. No, buying a Leaf will make sense not only when it has better range (which it definitely needs), but when it is more affordable. It would also be nice if charging stations were more common...
I wonder why I get better mileage in my Civic Hybrid as the Insight gets, even thought it is a significantly lighter car than mine (I get between 42 and 45 in almost all city driving)
Rather get a Golf diesel but I have to give it to Toyota and Honda, these cars have come a long way. If I was doing city driving for work I would definitley consider the Prius or Insight. But I do about 50+ miles a day on highways and my 2011 golf tdi gets 53mpg.
@siraff2 Depending on where you live, however, diesel can be 25% more expensive than gasoline. As here in the USA. That wipes out a lot of the initial savings.
i wonder why companies dont offer these cars to the countries where the petrol prices are the most expensive but you can have them in USA where petrol is like 8 times cheaper -.-
@siraff2 I do see what you're saying but the a hybrid's emissions can't even compare to the emissions of a diesel engine. I believe that is the reason that these cars are more attractive than diesel cars.
USA gallon is only 3.6, while euope's is 4.5 but that still comes out at 62.5MPG for the prius. but in truth, the prius will drop to around 40mpg if driveing normaly. while the polo will still be doing 65mpg driveing normally.
@rrr536 Why not indeed? The only downside to diesel seems to be that some of the NOx emissions are harmful. A friend of mine did some research on diesel and biodiesels, and is very skeptical of hybrids (and moreso electric cars, since power is produced at about 40% efficiency in fossil power stations, then distributed over the grid losing more efficiency and transferred into your battery at a further loss, before we even look at battery fade etc). Diesels do seem pretty good!
Don't worry about margix, he's an old man that wants to spent what little time he has left in this world hating cars that are goal oriented, and the goal for these cars is the best mpgs, not superficial looks.
I'm hoping Insight owners out here don't do what so many Prius owners do and try to get a custom plate proclaiming that they're a hybrid. I mean owners of hybrid Civics and hybrid Camrys don't get those plates as they're not symbols of "hybrid ecological superiority" despite being perfectly viable options (as opposed to hybrid S.U.V.s-which are silly since it doesn't help as they're still poor fuel mileage performers).
@siraff2 But diesel is heavier it rattles a lot more thus in need to add more sound proofing which can be costly, diesel produces far more CO2 than petrol and the main reasons of having a hybrid is to be silent and smooth. Diesel isn't the best substitute for it.
i have friends from the netherlands who drive seat diesels, ford fiesta and mondeo diesels and they say they better then the petrol version. Unfortunetly i dont drive diesels because in america we dont have cool diesel cars exept the jetta, i hope ford will bring the diesel version of the fiesta or monde so i can buy one, better gas milage then hybrid
@OldMrGrace I'm sure they can make a decent looking car with a low drag co-efficient ... and maybe that's not the point intended by the manufacturer but in reality it's just a symbol..
@omendark123 No, the figure is right. I drive about 13,000 miles per year and my car gets about 25MPG, so that means I spend about $1,800 per year. As for the T27, it's a neat car that is more affordable than the Leaf, but man, a top speed of 65MPH? That's unbearable and actually pretty dangerous on some highways (where the average speed is >80MPH). As of right now, I think Nissan is in the best position to advance the electric car. Toyota and Honda might catch up later, though.
Unlike Prius, Insight is more user friendly; it doesn’t have variety of throttle programmes. Just, a single feature carries out all the jobs together via the ECON mode. The indicator of ECON mode shows two types of lights - green & blue by symbolizing the fuel efficiency of the car. This is easier to comprehend and hence more favourable than Prius. For more information, checkout (derekchou)!
the insight would be a whole lot better that the prius if honda just fixed those few things like going into to full ev mode at certain speeds and better fuel economy and a whole lot less noise from the enigine and more hp
@omendark123 I wish it was only $400 per year, but that would mean you're only using 114 gallons at $3.5 per gallon. In my car (Honda CRV), that would mean driving only 2,850 miles a year or about 8 miles a day. In all actuality, I spend about $1,800 per year on gas and I drive extremely little. I envy Europe sometimes. Diesel cars are dirty and expensive, but the MPG is nice. I also hear Diesel-Hybrids (like the Volvo V60) is getting something like 124MPG.
I can't get over the fact that all of these hybrids do nothing to raise my heartrate. Nothing, absolutely nothing, about these cars makes me want to buy one, other than the mpg. Can't they make they look cooler? or how about they stick in a giant speaker that projects the V-8 noise? What are us Detroit muscle-loving Americans going to do??
Toyota Prius wins everytime over the Honda Insite, it weighs 400 pounds more, 500cc bigger engine and yet still gets quite alot better gas millage than the Honda. The Prius is built to a much more higher quality and it shows and i think when you are talking Hybrids which are very compercated cars that is very important. Also I trust Toyota far more with this than i do Honda. There is also the traditon that Honda cars are short lived and Toyota's live forever.
Look, Im 21, fast cars are FUN AS HELL! Most of all the american made muscle. But even I have to realize when a change needs to be done. I cant drive my vehicle on summer vacations any more! It cost to much! I miss vacations. If a Prius or Insight will take me places without the RIDICULOUS gas prices.....fine. I work my ass off for a kid my age! I deserve a little R&R once and a while.
Golf is almost the same size :) Yes, blue motion series are a bit pricy, but if the goal is saving the planet so to speak, diesel cars are better at it for the time being. I'm saving myself for honda fcx clarity and following hydrogen fuel cell cars. Until then, I'll continue to be a gas guzzler, drive my 1989 BMW M3 :)
Great FACT....good to know that the S500 is such an affordable car, definately a car for the masses based on affordability. The insight and Prius should be ashames, C'mon dude. Next, let's compare the discuss how much more the Chevy 2500 can tow when comated to the Tacoma 4 cylinder.
they are trying. the thing is honda and toyota have so much more knowledge and experience with hybrid technology it is going to take gm at LEAST 2 more years to get to this point.
Much less than they use to, the smell is greatly reduced with ULSD and really doesn't smell any more than gasoline does. I do own a diesel, a Jetta TDI.
@LOVETOYOTAS yep, I believe both are praised for their quality .. toyota is more comfortable, while honda is more driver car.. a bit hard but more sporty ride, of course depends on the model but that's the tendency.. toyota seems easier to maintain and parts also substitue parts are easily available due to higher population.. while honda tends to be more expensive in maintenance but age wise they're pretty good.. Asian like honda possible because of the style suits asian taste better
yeah well I looked at the insight and ended up with the prius.. It really shocked me how amazing it is to drive. The insight just isn't quite as good :(
@Hiteminthewallet You're welcome. I enjoyed talking to a Honda-Douche, although I felt that I would have a more intelligent, intuitive conversation with a rock.
EPA, fueleconomy(dot)gov New MPG (tests are more realistic) City/Hwy/Combined Prius 2010 - 51/48/50 Prius 2004 - 48/45/46 Insight 2010 - 40/43/41 Jetta Tdi 2009 - 29/40/33 The EPA ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average MPG you will get. When you own one of these cars, you no longer care how much gas is.
@RnB123100 In what way is it more eco-friendly? According to stats collected on Wikipedia from 5 different sites, the Hummer gives from 8.2 to 12mpg which is awful (I mean, look at the thing - 6.2L v8, it's like putting jet rockets on the back of a big cube of steel, heavy and bad aerodynamics). 10mpg for the Hummer versus 50mpg for the Prius... hmmm :D Unless you mean that production of the Prius (and disposal of the battery) is more costly/wasteful than the Hummer, then I dunno.
@majestixblue i think tho becuase Japanese people replace there cars about every 5 years or eariler with a new one they just buy wot they like the look of alot more to be honest.
@siraff2 loads of diesels? really? can you enlighten me? i'm only aware of volkswagen's but am weary because of the Golf TDI's higher price and VW's reputation for unreliability and higher repair costs. I won't argue that a Golf TDI will be lots more fun and a more luxurious car, the cost is prohibitive and the reliability question mark is not something i want to worry about after a few years of ownership
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I agree, Honda needed to do something to compete for an affordable hybrid commuter car. Honda builds a decent product. However, Toyota countered Honda by building the Prius "C", which is even less expensive than the Honda, but still delivers better fuel mileage and reliability. Toyota is truly the leader in hybrid technology. I must also add that not all owners of Prii buy the cars to be eco-friendly, instead it adds up to fuel cost and reliability. The Prius is a truly advanced commuter car for the masses. It makes a wonderful family car too!
IDK, Paid $14,200 OTD for a 23,000 mile Certified Honda Insight. After 20,000 miles, we are quite happy with the mileage and performance.
Hey, are you still using that car?
@@alaricace8118 About 8 years ago i bought a 2010 Insight with 220K miles. I drove it for work for 3 years, putting 110K on it. I hit a deer at 330K miles.
It never broke down, i changed the front brakes once.
i love my insight i get 58 mpg and it keeps going up , the more u drive it the more mpg u get
that is really good for an insight, well done.
One of the things they don't mention in this video is that the Honda Insight "tutors" you on how to drive efficiently. A great deal of gasoline savings is based on how you drive your car as well as how efficient the engine/aero is. There are tons of people who drive hybrids thinking they're getting great milage but really could be getting much more out of it by driving differently.
Listening for the electric whine and tire noise of the Prius is particularly tough on busier roads, but it is possible to hear them if you're in a suburban area or a school zone-if you're familiar with their sound. They're also dead silent if the operator just lets off the accelerator to slow down (say for turning into a shopping center driveway) instead of hitting the brakes.
Im all about saving money in cars. In the used car market the Insight is very affordable I never driven a Prius and it is attractive but it seems a bit older I.e. for an older crowd whereas the Insight is more youthful and fun.
I had a 2011 Insight ES ,got it because the Saab 93 I had was getting 23 MPG on the daily commute.The Insight put this up to 43 MPG.I have now got a Gen 4 2016 Prius & 65 MPG,the Prius is a much better car ,more like the Saab in size & comfort but is very expensive compared to the Honda . The Hybrid technology works & I have no problem recommending it to anyone.
BTW the mileage figures are Imperial not US gallons
True the insight is 80% the cost of the Prius, but there's also 80% the milege and 80% the substance of Prius.
Comparing these two cars is like comparing an ES 350 to an Accord or a TL to a Camry. While they technically achieve the same goals, one has a lot more to offer in the way of features, smoothness and refinement then the other. The Prius has a lot more to offer. I read that Toyota is going to keep making the 2 generation Prius at the same starting price as the Insight.
Between 3rd august 2011 and 5th august 2012, my 1995 Citroen ZX 1900cc diesel estate drove 9217 miles, used £1098.28 of fuel and has averaged 54.14 miles per gallon.
It cost me £260 off ebay and i bought it unseen.
It hasn't let me down once, it has astounded people at how much crap i can get in the back in one go.
It is quiet, doesn't burn oil and apart from the odd dent here and there, looks good.
I'm the third owner and love it to bits!
Why fork out thousands for a new car?
So is the straight line speed test for the Honda Insight done in its S mode or D mode? It has a big difference in acceleration.
whaddaya want, steve irwin to do the voice over? "crickey this is a BLOODY good hybrid, m8, glides over roads like a stingray"
It's the production of the batteries that bring the prius down. The nickel is actually mined and smelted in Sudbury, Ontario (Canada) by Inco. The nickel is then shipped to a refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel goes to China to produce nickel foam. Then, it goes to Japan. In Japan Panasonic manufactures the battery itself, then it's off to the Toyota plant for final vehicle assembly. Lastly the cars are shipped to the United States, completing the world tour required for a Prius battery.
Where as petrol and diesel are drilled for in wells and seabed all over the world, then shipped to a refinery, then shipped to different countries, then road transported all over those countries, Mmmm speaking of world tours. The more we use the more that is drilled for and on and on.....
@@roywalker7512 exactly. The battery only has to be produced one time and then functions for 10-15 years, whereas that 40 or 50 litres of gas in the tank has to be produced every few weeks for the entirety of the car’s lifetime.
HONDA CVT had manufacturing TSBs in 2015, Prius has bttr, HP at 134 and heat than Honda 1.3 . I LOVE the 1.8 engine w/ market research experience. NOTE to MANUF: Please DO NOT remove TIRE sizes nums, ridiculous!
The thing is that because the Prius gets even the slightest amount more in miles per gallon, various governments have provided incentives to buy one over the Honda Insight. In the northeastern US, there is an electronic toll system known as EZ-Pass for which Prius owners are eligible for a 10% discount. In the U.K., trims of both vehicles are exempt from U.K. Road Tax, although this applies to more Prius models.
Is that because you used the ECO MODE or the EV button often?
I have been looking at possibly buying a hybrid. One thing that worries me is the Priusdoes not have a connection as such to the output to the wheels. IF a fuse or breaker pops and the electric drive system stops so does the car. The Honda has a "standard" drive unit that assisted by the motor. If the motor stops you can limp on in to a dealer not sit on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck. BUT I also dont understand Hondas claim that the valves stay CLOSED to let the engine freewheel?
Welp, 15 years later… the Prius has proven itself to be one of the most reliable cars on the road. And the transmission is bullet-proof and is never a point of failure in the car. And even without a functioning battery, the Prius can still drive, albeit with a reduced fuel economy of course.
In the month of Oct. 2009, the VW Jetta TDI sold 1,839 units. In that same period of time, the Toyota Prius sold 14,569 units.
well its so clear why hp for toyota is higher its 1800 cc engine and honda is just 1300.
i have toyota vits and its 1300 cc, i can imagine what kinda hp that hoda has.
hmm on the magazine article they included the Chevrolet Metro
The Insight is a car, The Prius is a space ship with wheels....
I'd definitely buy the Insight over the Prius, IMO it looks A LOT better, is cheaper and it's lighter (like he said, it's a more nimbler car, a lot more fun to drive)
Prius has so much more power, and yet Honda beats it @ 1/4 mile.... Prius starts @ about $25,000, Honda @ $20,000... I think I'll just keep that $5,000 and fill up my gas for 3-4 years:)) and when the lease is over, I'll get the HYDROGEN powered Honda that comes out next year:))
which is more fuel efficient ?
well only point i'll add is there is over 147k Prius sold and only 4800 insights sold.and Honda is going to stop making insights since know one are buying that integrated motor assist gas engine.
I think if Insight can make the ride quieter then it will have an advantage
the insight is a milestone that cant go unnoticed
Sadly now after 5 years, the Insight owners have sued Honda over false MPG claims (over-estimated)..and Honda is dis-continuing Insight production. For most drivers, the Prius delivers well over it's stated mpg...and 58mpg on highway while driving at the speed limit. That's under 40mpg vs upwards of 60mpg....50% more. The fourth gen Prius is due out now - with lighter curb weight and further increased mpg. The Insight is a failed design...too bad, it looked great!
That's just not true..
I have had my Insight three weeks and am averaging 51 US mpg.
www.fuelly.com/dashboard
I don't know why he trivializes the substantial ~8 MPG difference, which could add up to quite a lot on long trips. Both cars can exceed their EPA specs with driving techniques.
@RnB123100 That's an interesting argument - I checked out the batteries and the Prius has been called the "biggest user of rare-earth metals in the world"... perhaps not a "carbon footprint" put possibly something worse in a different way. Definitely something to think about!
At price reduction of 25% of Toyota Prius, the 40 mpg of Honda hybrid is also great value.
@omendark123 I like Nissan Leaf, but the price difference just makes a Honda Fit more economical.
A 2011 Honda Fit is $18K. A 2011 Leaf costs $38K. A difference of $20K. That would mean I would have to drive the Leaf for 19 years (if I only use free charging stations) for it to be worth it.
No, buying a Leaf will make sense not only when it has better range (which it definitely needs), but when it is more affordable. It would also be nice if charging stations were more common...
@batlin yea but it is more eco-friendly dan da pruis.im not trying 2 put da hummer as good,im puting da pruis as bad.
I wonder why I get better mileage in my Civic Hybrid as the Insight gets, even thought it is a significantly lighter car than mine (I get between 42 and 45 in almost all city driving)
i never even saw a new camero yet, but i saw at least 15 prius's in the past week
Rather get a Golf diesel but I have to give it to Toyota and Honda, these cars have come a long way. If I was doing city driving for work I would definitley consider the Prius or Insight. But I do about 50+ miles a day on highways and my 2011 golf tdi gets 53mpg.
Golf tdi 140 grams co2 per/km.... Prius 92 grams co2 per km
The MPG wars begin
MT, I agree although prius is better on mpg, Insight deserves great credit for its value.
The new 4th gen Prius went ridiculous with cost cuts. I Always dblCHECK for fishtailing! With respect.
If I ever have problems sleeping, I want this guy to read me a story. YAWN.
@siraff2 Depending on where you live, however, diesel can be 25% more expensive than gasoline. As here in the USA. That wipes out a lot of the initial savings.
@omendark123 Wow, sounds the the T27 can really work where you are. Lucky.
Here, it has too many issues to be feasible.
I agree!
1:06 someone's got a mobile call lol
i wonder why companies dont offer these cars to the countries where the petrol prices are the most expensive but you can have them in USA where petrol is like 8 times cheaper -.-
Looks like they didn't use the Power mode on the Prius when the brought in the track. In other words. the results doesn't seem fair.
I would really hope to see again big (but not suv)beautiful cars on American roads and not condoms like these two above.
how much does diesel cost?
Wish I could get the Insight so bad lol
broke college student here T_T
@thebigcougar
No, there is no tax credit for hybrids anymore. Only for electric only.
How come honda claims 0-60 for insight is 12.2secs? Yet on the track it was even faster than a prius?
@siraff2 I do see what you're saying but the a hybrid's emissions can't even compare to the emissions of a diesel engine. I believe that is the reason that these cars are more attractive than diesel cars.
@sariff2 as far as i am aware, none of those cars are available in the u.s.
USA gallon is only 3.6, while euope's is 4.5
but that still comes out at 62.5MPG for the prius. but in truth, the prius will drop to around 40mpg if driveing normaly. while the polo will still be doing 65mpg driveing normally.
@rrr536 Why not indeed? The only downside to diesel seems to be that some of the NOx emissions are harmful. A friend of mine did some research on diesel and biodiesels, and is very skeptical of hybrids (and moreso electric cars, since power is produced at about 40% efficiency in fossil power stations, then distributed over the grid losing more efficiency and transferred into your battery at a further loss, before we even look at battery fade etc).
Diesels do seem pretty good!
there is no grid charging for either vehicle.
@@roywalker7512 thanks for answering my question from 12 years ago.
you are welcome. cheers.
have you ever drove diesel car in europe? I have lots of friends who have small diesel and they dont smell at all plus more quiet then petrol
Don't worry about margix, he's an old man that wants to spent what little time he has left in this world hating cars that are goal oriented, and the goal for these cars is the best mpgs, not superficial looks.
can a insight to 70mpg?
I'm hoping Insight owners out here don't do what so many Prius owners do and try to get a custom plate proclaiming that they're a hybrid. I mean owners of hybrid Civics and hybrid Camrys don't get those plates as they're not symbols of "hybrid ecological superiority" despite being perfectly viable options (as opposed to hybrid S.U.V.s-which are silly since it doesn't help as they're still poor fuel mileage performers).
@siraff2 But diesel is heavier it rattles a lot more thus in need to add more sound proofing which can be costly, diesel produces far more CO2 than petrol and the main reasons of having a hybrid is to be silent and smooth. Diesel isn't the best substitute for it.
i have friends from the netherlands who drive seat diesels, ford fiesta and mondeo diesels and they say they better then the petrol version. Unfortunetly i dont drive diesels because in america we dont have cool diesel cars exept the jetta, i hope ford will bring the diesel version of the fiesta or monde so i can buy one, better gas milage then hybrid
@OldMrGrace I'm sure they can make a decent looking car with a low drag co-efficient ... and maybe that's not the point intended by the manufacturer but in reality it's just a symbol..
2010 Prius =
Sexy
Quick
Agile
Revolutionary
Fun to Drive!!!
And 50 plus MPG's
@omendark123 No, the figure is right. I drive about 13,000 miles per year and my car gets about 25MPG, so that means I spend about $1,800 per year.
As for the T27, it's a neat car that is more affordable than the Leaf, but man, a top speed of 65MPH? That's unbearable and actually pretty dangerous on some highways (where the average speed is >80MPH). As of right now, I think Nissan is in the best position to advance the electric car. Toyota and Honda might catch up later, though.
Unlike Prius, Insight is more user friendly; it doesn’t have variety of throttle programmes. Just, a single feature carries out all the jobs together via the ECON mode. The indicator of ECON mode shows two types of lights - green & blue by symbolizing the fuel efficiency of the car. This is easier to comprehend and hence more favourable than Prius.
For more information, checkout (derekchou)!
the insight would be a whole lot better that the prius if honda just fixed those few things like going into to full ev mode at certain speeds and better fuel economy and a whole lot less noise from the enigine and more hp
Congrat to the new Insight.
Thumbs up for the Klingon interior :-)
@omendark123 I wish it was only $400 per year, but that would mean you're only using 114 gallons at $3.5 per gallon. In my car (Honda CRV), that would mean driving only 2,850 miles a year or about 8 miles a day.
In all actuality, I spend about $1,800 per year on gas and I drive extremely little.
I envy Europe sometimes. Diesel cars are dirty and expensive, but the MPG is nice. I also hear Diesel-Hybrids (like the Volvo V60) is getting something like 124MPG.
Energy economy
12.5L / 100km
Annual fuel cost of $4,380
Carbon emissions
289 grams/k....... Prius 92 grams co2 per km. 4.6 litres per 100km
Love Honda! :D
honda is an engine company, its the world's largest engine manufacturer last time i checked
Diesel does have a distinctive smell and it smells like carbon/coal type smell.
It's called being narrowminded
I can't get over the fact that all of these hybrids do nothing to raise my heartrate. Nothing, absolutely nothing, about these cars makes me want to buy one, other than the mpg. Can't they make they look cooler? or how about they stick in a giant speaker that projects the V-8 noise? What are us Detroit muscle-loving Americans going to do??
Toyota Prius wins everytime over the Honda Insite, it weighs 400 pounds more, 500cc bigger engine and yet still gets quite alot better gas millage than the Honda. The Prius is built to a much more higher quality and it shows and i think when you are talking Hybrids which are very compercated cars that is very important. Also I trust Toyota far more with this than i do Honda. There is also the traditon that Honda cars are short lived and Toyota's live forever.
some people dream to have high-tech futuristic car !hybrid is da future ! flying cars r too expensive !
Look, Im 21, fast cars are FUN AS HELL! Most of all the american made muscle. But even I have to realize when a change needs to be done. I cant drive my vehicle on summer vacations any more! It cost to much! I miss vacations. If a Prius or Insight will take me places without the RIDICULOUS gas prices.....fine. I work my ass off for a kid my age! I deserve a little R&R once and a while.
depends of people's taste.
panoulis20, you do know a supra pulls more lateral acceleration than a NSX right ? The supra is .98g VS .93g for the NSX. Nice try though.
Golf is almost the same size :) Yes, blue motion series are a bit pricy, but if the goal is saving the planet so to speak, diesel cars are better at it for the time being. I'm saving myself for honda fcx clarity and following hydrogen fuel cell cars. Until then, I'll continue to be a gas guzzler, drive my 1989 BMW M3 :)
kannibalPlaNET, The Focus is a greast choice, and more modern ones are more economical abd still have that super road handling! ;-)
He's not wearing his seatbelt.
The Insight did better in the IIHS crash test!
Great FACT....good to know that the S500 is such an affordable car, definately a car for the masses based on affordability. The insight and Prius should be ashames, C'mon dude. Next, let's compare the discuss how much more the Chevy 2500 can tow when comated to the Tacoma 4 cylinder.
triple yawn,you help me digesting after lunch
the moral of this story: YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET!
Why GM doesn't make a car like this?
lol yeah sorry calmer...
they are trying. the thing is honda and toyota have so much more knowledge and experience with hybrid technology it is going to take gm at LEAST 2 more years to get to this point.
Much less than they use to, the smell is greatly reduced with ULSD and really doesn't smell any more than gasoline does. I do own a diesel, a Jetta TDI.
@LOVETOYOTAS yep, I believe both are praised for their quality .. toyota is more comfortable, while honda is more driver car.. a bit hard but more sporty ride, of course depends on the model but that's the tendency.. toyota seems easier to maintain and parts also substitue parts are easily available due to higher population.. while honda tends to be more expensive in maintenance but age wise they're pretty good.. Asian like honda possible because of the style suits asian taste better
yeah well I looked at the insight and ended up with the prius.. It really shocked me how amazing it is to drive.
The insight just isn't quite as good :(
@Hiteminthewallet
You're welcome. I enjoyed talking to a Honda-Douche, although I felt that I would have a more intelligent, intuitive conversation with a rock.
EPA, fueleconomy(dot)gov
New MPG (tests are more realistic)
City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
Jetta Tdi 2009 - 29/40/33
The EPA ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average MPG you will get.
When you own one of these cars, you no longer care how much gas is.
driving a condom is the maddest of all situation
@RnB123100 In what way is it more eco-friendly? According to stats collected on Wikipedia from 5 different sites, the Hummer gives from 8.2 to 12mpg which is awful (I mean, look at the thing - 6.2L v8, it's like putting jet rockets on the back of a big cube of steel, heavy and bad aerodynamics).
10mpg for the Hummer versus 50mpg for the Prius... hmmm :D
Unless you mean that production of the Prius (and disposal of the battery) is more costly/wasteful than the Hummer, then I dunno.
@siraff2 That's combined US estimate mpg shit, I test driven a prius and god I don't want to drive one again but that got 65 mpg on average.
u could drive a hummer h2 for 3times the omout of miles (and its supost 2 last 3times more) dan a pruis and leave a much smaller carbon footprint.
Starting price
Insight - $20,000
Prius - $22,000
@majestixblue i think tho becuase Japanese people replace there cars about every 5 years or eariler with a new one they just buy wot they like the look of alot more to be honest.
@siraff2 loads of diesels? really? can you enlighten me? i'm only aware of volkswagen's but am weary because of the Golf TDI's higher price and VW's reputation for unreliability and higher repair costs.
I won't argue that a Golf TDI will be lots more fun and a more luxurious car, the cost is prohibitive and the reliability question mark is not something i want to worry about after a few years of ownership