How To Find & FIX Ryzen 3000 Boost Problems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- The AMD 3rd gen Ryzen 3000 series CPUs are some of the best processors ever released but there a few minor problems which may prevent them from performing as expected. In this video we go over how to find and in some cases possibly fix issues with CPU boost, BIOS settings, high idle frequencies and more on X570, X470 and B450.
Timestamps:
0:00: Intro & A Quick Explainer
1:55: All Those Boost Issues
2:49: BIOS Updates
3:27: The Tools You'll Need
3:49: Setting Power Plans
4:15: How To Test
5:36: FIXING (Maybe) Boost Issues
6:01: Explaining The 1:1:1 Ratio
6:53: Matching Ratios to Memory Speed
7:21: FIXING Ratio Problems
7:45: Idle Frequency Problems
8:44: Detecting Idle Issues
9:00: FIXING High Idle Speeds
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Regarding 5:21...Yes when everything is running smoothly and without any manual or auto overclocking the 3900X can boost itself to 4.65GHz in lightly-threaded workloads. On some motherboards, with certain BIOS revisions. Confusing we know.....
Is there a big problem ..
Ryzen issues.... typical. my guess reviewers are being bias and trying to make it look better than it will ever be.
@@thelightsilent I don't think there was any bias. I think when time is short (especially when somethings launching right on a long weekend), a plug and play method is the easiest way. Honestly, unless you SERIOUSLY monitor speeds while benchmarking, a lot of these issues would be really easy to miss.
B450 Tomahawk, + 3700x , I was getting 4.4 but now with the latest bios , v190 with 1.0.0.3ab it is not working properly. I will try your tips, first thing cmos clear and will try to run everything stock and then try to put my memory speed to 3200 cl14 to see if the bios is messing something up
@HardwareCanucks ... i'm wondering ...where do i get the Ryzen High Performance and Power Safe power plans? Are they available for my 1800X too? Seems i have to bridge some time before my 3900X arrives -.- ... i ordered on 7.7 and no retailer in Germany seems to get them :(.
Timestamps:
0:00: Intro & A Quick Explainer
1:55: All Those Boost Issues
2:49: BIOS Updates
3:27: The Tools You'll Need
3:49: Setting Power Plans
4:15: How To Test
5:36: FIXING (Maybe) Boost Issues
6:01: Explaining The 1:1:1 Ratio
6:53: Matching Ratios to Memory Speed
7:21: FIXING Ratio Problems
7:45: Idle Frequency Problems
8:44: Detecting Idle Issues
9:00: FIXING High Idle Speeds
Go to the store and buy yourself a cake, you earned it
thank you man. Everyone need to like this comment. Or it needs to be pinned
Nice information video nice job.
Msi b450 tomahawk got a new bios update i got v19 the new one it's 7c02v1A it came out 7/30/2019 .
@@1967KID The latest bios for b450 tomahawk for me shows 7/22/2019?
Great video, even 4 years later still helpful for Ryzen 3000 owners to see how the processor should behave.
Thank you very much!
Yeah, I;ve had my 3900x for 2 years but was too busy to look into this until now lol.
Thanks, finally tech reviewer who addresses this problem!
Thank you for addressing the high voltage issue!! Finally, someone acknowledged this
Others have said it as well. Der8auer, Buildzoid, Level1Tech, ...
"How To Find & FIX Ryzen 3000 Boost Problems"
...."YOU HAVE TO WAIT"....
Exactly my thoughts
Hi, my 3700x running at 3700Mhz is that normal?
@@tikkoy8396 no. Thats normal clock. Boost is around 4.399
@@DerBoss-hr3ts my r5 3600 stays on its boost clock 4.2 mhz on idle how do i fix this
@@kodyrippin7341 just set the performance to balanced. It'll take that speed when it's needed
THANK YOU for being one of the few reviewers who are talking about issues with the platform and not being
"hey amd is perfect here is our affiliate link" from whea errors on x370 boards(agesa 1.0.0.1) to x570 boards and running high voltage's or 300 mhz off max(agesa 1.0.0.3) are just the issues i have dealt with since my 3800x purchase ... for canadians your awesome!!!!!!!!
im afriad to try the "beta" bios my gigabyte has, x570 aorus pro wifi fix 2 things break another ... only way i get temps and voltage perfect is with windows balanced plan, only time i get under 1.4v at all times
X570 also having whea errors on a 1080 ti, and idle voltages of 1.4-1.5 volts regardless of bios voltage offset. This is one an MSI Meg ace x570 with the latest bios as of this post
Hey I need help. I'm a noob on computers but I want to build a computer for using photoshop and lightroom. I saw reviews about 3600 being one of the best for performance and price to be hooked up to a MSI B450M mortar. The thing is.. I've been seeing people having issues with something like BIOS and computer crashing or whatever by using that CPU with that motherboard. Should I be looking at a different motherboard or is that problem still happens with all motherboards? I don't want the computer store to deceive me and sell me motherboard that is expensive. I'm wanting to install a NVMe 970 evo plus 1TB to be running at full potential.
I would highly appreciate your help guys.
Thanks
Wow, This just helped me a ton! I had a couple problems going on for my 3700X and this solved it. Thanks so much for explaining it so well
3700X is gimped on memory bandwidth*
Can reviewers compare and show those graphs soon please.
6:50 OMG overclocking tutorials YES!
You guys are testing new waters.
GOD SPEED.
they never did!
Ohhh man you killed it with this video tutorial, the only one video that I have found that is good content about this problem thanks so much, keep it up!!
One thing to remember here is that AMD said the CPU logic to change the clock speed and voltage runs every 1ms. This means tools that sample the frequency/voltage of each core every second are missing out on 999 readings. sometimes the cores are completely asleep but the reported voltage is reported as what they were running at before they were asleep. Also, the high voltages may be applied for only fractions of a second. Finally some third party tools that query the cores wake them all up causing artificially high readings. This is all from gamers nexus videos.
My 3600x runs at 55c with just a browser open not doing anything and over 70c for a second while opening a browser or even a setting in windows, a webpage sometimes. On the other hand most demanding games like Watch Dogs 2 run at 65c or below at 4.3 Ghz. When i was installing the game at 4% CPU ussage temperature was going between 55c and 72c with fan going up and down. Any program runing even if it's a browser causes voltage to stay at 1.4v as reported by CPU-z. When i lover the voltage by puting CPU power state to 99% it lowers the temperatures by 20c, but disables boost.
@@1GTX1 Use the standard Windows Balanced plan. Edit this plan to use 85% minimum processor state, 100% maximum processor state.
A new architecture having bios issues?Never.....
/s
@ageofbogyo there will be no zen2+.Direct jump to zen3.
@@TheLastElderDragon proof?
@@batmangovno you can check AMDs offical road map and conformation from other industry sources are available on the internet/reddit.
@@TheLastElderDragon okay, i checked it and it seems like amd is indeed skipping a refresh. Keyword "seems", there's not much info outside roadmaps. It could be a zen+-type refresh for all we know.
thank you! there is such a crazy splat of info out there since launch with all these issues that it's become a headache to narrow down what is a real information/solutions and what is just someones bandaid! this really covers what's wrong and how to fix it.
If you are seeing minor differences between the theoretical and measured CPU boost frequencies, like let's say 4375 vs 4400 MHz on a Ryzen 3700X, a possible cause could be the spread spectrum option for the clocks. This introduces slight frequency variations in the clock frequencies to comply with FCC regulations regarding EM emissions. Disabling this on a gigabyte X570 board got me to the 4.4 GHz boost, although the performance gain was negligible (508 vs 509 in single core Cinebench R20).
It feels like the rest of the TH-camrs are on holiday. Thanks for this video.
finally someone is talking about this and giving instructions. you have my respect which i lost in so many others...thank you guys
So moral of the story of this video, even if you're building a new RyZen system much later, flash the freaking BIOS first lol !
Believe it or not, up until recently updating to the latest BIOS caused more issues. 😂😂
And also read the pre-requisites for the bios update carefully. My Gigabyte board required a specific previous bios version first as well as another "tool" to be installed before installing the 3000 series compatible bios update.
@@HardwareCanucks Not for me my fan speeds were not cranking up with the temps so asus said get the latest bios so I did and it fixed it but ya new bios can make things slower too.
@@HardwareCanucks sounds like an asrock user ..............................new bios = fix one minor issue ----------- CREATE 4 NEW MAJOR BUGS
Latest BIOS and best hardware... MSI, MSI, MSI. I cannot stress this enough. I been using this brand since my Athlon 64 3500+ humble days, the brand have only got better through the years. Well surpassed Gigabyte which I used to consider the King of motherboards.
I only had bad experiences with ASUS, from motherboards that don't post, to their Transformer Prime tablets that were defective, only thing I have of ASUS that works is that Aura ROG RGB kit, which I only use on an old Gigabyte mobo that has no RGB because it's of the FX era.
There's a reason people use MSI Afterburner, their software is top notch. Gigabyte fell way behind in this area.
I think playing around in the BIOS and look for for info on the Internet about what setting is what is fun and very much encouraged.
If anything goes wrong and won't boot again, just clear the BIOS, as per the 1 step procedure in the manual, some mainboards nowadays even has a easy access button for it.
Just because the voltage is high doesnt mean its pulling more power if the amps are lower.. Looking at the total wattage currently being pulled in HWinfo tells you a better story about the current power draw. That higher voltage could be useful at idle for when new processes start up as far as stability.
Please, in your overclocking guide, make sure to go over that you can actually run the IF in 1:1:1 with memory at 3733MHz, you just have to overclock it manually.
Hey, Ebert. Good video about incorrect performance or boost performance. I wouldn’t have noticed this myself. Until, of course seeing this video.
Just waiting on my RAM dimms to come in tomorrow so I can set up my very first build w/R5 3600; saved this for reference. Thanks!
My eyes bleed when they seen more than 1.4V...
9:15 Amaing tip right here, My CPU was fluctuating from 40° to 60° every 10sec at idle, i changed that, its at a constent 35°. Thank you so much !
are u running at 4Ghz at idle/desktop ? its same problem for me, and now how much your clockspeed did u get ?
Yeah my problem its same with this, pls answer mate
Here is a time when people have to tune and play with Settings to get the Actaual Performance of the Specs.
Only because we demand the tech is released. The best thing at the end of the day is that this stuff is backwards compatible, so teething issues can be expected.
If i buy a product i want it to work on the specs that they give me
If you buy a car you also dont need to tune the air and fuel mixture to work 😆
I have helped 2 friends now that bought 3200 and 3600mhz ram yet they both didn't set it in bios so the ram was actually 2133mhz and that's negating the extra price and wasting performance. I could only imagine the other people in world that don't know that and think if package says 3600mhz then that's what it will run at.
Impressive. And to think back in the early days (~1990) setting Berg jumpers for IRQ, Address and issuing commands like G=C800:5 to low (really low!) level format your HD was as about as geeky as it got. All these things were considered OVER COMPLICATED 🤤 You make me proud 👍😁
and that's why gentlemens you must wait a new platform to mature before buying it at launch
i have another problem , how can i disable automatic boost ? i want it to be on 3.7GHz because i dont have a great Cooling , but when i open up my game it goes to 4.1 and its hot for me . how can i fix this ? Ryzen 9 3900x / Asus strix X470-F . Help me pleaseeeee
Can you look into the benefits of tightening Ram timings vs. frequency in your upcoming OC video?
It seems like it's a better investment to buy higher spec Ram and OC/tighten, than to buy better MOBO or CPU coolers, for Zen 2. . .
Can you confirm/ refute this?
Maybe. Right now the focus is how to PROPERLY overclock Ryzen 3000-series because we have yet to find a video guide that gives completely accurate info.
tighter timings at 3000mhz + is better than 3400mhz + plus with looser timings to keep it stable at all
Regarding idle voltages, you should use the standard Balanced Power Plan if you want to go below 1V. It seems that Microsoft fixed the issues with it a few months ago. X570 bios have also come a long way since this video came out.
Doing this worked for my 3800X & Aorus Pro WIFI combo even if I have Razer and NZXT CAM software running.
My 3700x boosts when I open steam or some other program. It makes my cpu cooler loud (i have a kraken x62). Any help with that?
Good job guys. “Wait for BIOS update”
Really nice explanation 👍
For those of us playing along at home, Why does my "Ryzen Master" window look different?
I can see my Memory Clock, but no "fabric clock" reading that I can see?
(and completely different layout. I just installed the latest. . ? )
Do you have a Zen 2 Processor? if not you wont see a lot of this stuff.
Thanks, this fixed my issue with memory and cpu performance.
My 3700x won't stop idling at 1.4v no matter what I do.. Updated windows and chipset drivers as well as tried the various power plan fixes that AMD suggested.. I guess I will just wait for a bios update.
That is related to the boost issue as well. I'm stuck at 1.45 on my CPU.
Windows balanced fixed my voltage issues . But if you put your PC to sleep and wake it back up it's back to being pinned at 1.48 volts
Windows balanced plan is the only plan that let’s my voltage drop. All the ryzen plans keep it pegged at 1.4v
@@ericimi sleep and wake up USED to have an issue with incorrect reporting afterwards ,was a common problem with 1st gen maybe its related ?
@@TheColson79 On my 2700x windows balanced actually pinned the chip above 1.4v and switching to high performance and manually setting the min processor state to 5% did I get the boosting mechanism to work properly
Some overclocking questions:
- Can you please do a detailed look in to PBO and PB2 behavior, does it work properly now (do the CPUs hit their advertised clocks and on how many cores) in different scenarios (workloads)?
- Is it true that these new CPUs throttle when hitting a certain power draw (like for example 88W for the 65W CPUs)? Does increasing the power draw prevent the CPU from clocking as high as it should and vice versa?
- Can you please test lower end X570 motherboards ($200 range) like the ASUS TUF and see if there's a difference anywhere?
- Can you please test B450 and X470 boards, see if they have the necessary BIOS updates/support and also see if there's a difference anywhere? Can you overclock the same on older chipsets?
- Can the 3700X be overclocked to match the 3800X and what is the maximum overclocked performance of both of them?
- What's the highest 8C chips will overclock for safe 24/7 use?
- Can you please explain in detail how to best overclock Ryzen 3000?
Hope you can clear some things up.
Amd Ryzen High Performance gave me game stutters but normal High Performance doesn't. My 3600x idles at 4200, on a X570 Elite.
I recommend configuring the power plans manually. The Ryzen powerplans are not really that great. At least that's my experience with my 2700.
You should set on of power plans and configure it yourself. I've done it on my PC (not ryzen) and my cpu doesn't stay at 3.9 ghz all the time
Yeah do not use it, it also let your cpu idle by 1,4-1,5V with high temperatures. You even can see it at 4:30. lol Use the standard Windows Balanced plan. Edit this plan to use 85% minimum processor state, 100% maximum processor state. Check AMD reddit.
@@BfmVrockz22 Why 85? I'm running it at 5% to save power and let individual cores clock higher.
Thanks a lot. Finally I solve boosting issue. Thanks to you it was due to high voltage issue and icue software. Once I close icue, my 3900x now is boosting to 4.65. Really appreciated.
Arabstutors I did close iCue but it doesn’t help or do anything! I can only make it work with power saver
@@randallbonilla1453 In bios try to change cpu voltage to NORMAL. Check the video for more clarification.
Arabstutors thanks for replying! Thing is I have an Asus Crosshair VIII hero and bios doesn’t seem to have that specific setting unless there’s an Asus equivalent to it! So I did an offset and that brought temperature down however ryzen still reads 1.44 average Vcore while hwinfo reads 1.241 temperatures are fluctuating around the 35-38 idle and 58C under load
@@randallbonilla1453 In my case, I have gigabyte auros master. I have no idea about Asus, but I believe the temperatures are very good. I have the same lowest temp, for maximum it is reaching 75 on cinebench r20 all cores. I remember I saw JayTwoCent video overclock 3900x using asus motherboard, and he enter manually 1.2 volt. I believe 1.44 volt in idle is high. I have it in load 1.45 to 1.5, but not idle.
Arabstutors yes jaytwocents did it with the exact same motherboard I have
Damn,they really run some vcore with these new chips.
Just for light single threaded use, if you hit all cores it usually drops to 1.32-1.37 ish on full load
Extremely well done video
My R5 3600 can't reach the Boost Frequencies and stuck at 3.9ghz with some pick at 4.05 on 1 core
Same here
3,8ghz here, latest F50 bios. Gigabyte.
@@sidewinder86ify same with asus board, stuck at 3.8 but was getting 4 a few days ago
The only time I get the advertised frequencies is with the vanilla windows balanced plan, not the Ryzen balanced.
Specs: R5 2600, ASUS Strix B450-F Gaming motherboard latest bios from Asus website to date.
mine also at f50. my cpu is boosting to 4.192Ghz as my bclk is 99.8.
The "Performance and Energy" also increase voltage if u set it to best performance not only from additional power settings. When i use it to "best p." it almost 1.5v my r3600 at 4.1 :)
Power Saver mode of which was suggested to my by Gigabyte, drives voltages down properly, whereas Balanced with Windows or AMD does not and would need to reduce their maximum power to 99%. This allows the voltages to drop at idle, not as much as the Power Saver mode however (from my own experience on the X570 Auros Elite) but using either of those, hinders the max boost of single and multi threaded tasks to 3.75 GHz and trying to inform Gigabyte of this is slow going, as it takes them a week to respond, and to add extra information on to the same ticket/question is not possible, due to their uniquely shitty complaints process. F4g of which is the latest BIOS hinders performance by 200-300 points in both Cinebench and has the voltages on the 3900X going higher than needed. Hitting 1.465v at 4 GHz, which hits thermals hard and had me going well into the high 80s on a custom loop. Going back to F3 limits the max voltage to 1.4v aturbos on all cores to a max of 4.15 GHz in Aida64 and both Cinebench tests in stock and PBO. HWiNFO64 does also hinder the scores by up to 200 points as well when being used or at least in my case, so if your scores are lower whilst using it, don't be too disheartened and try using either Cinebench tests with it off and see how that goes. Manually overclocking on F3 BIOS gave me better scores than PBO and stock, by 300+ points in Cinebench R20 and about a similar number in R15 with single thread performance still being amazing.
Your experience may be different. I've read a lot on Reddit, spoking to a lot of people in Reddit, looked at other forums online and have done my own testing over the last almost 2 weeks now and came to the conclusion, that not everyone will have the same experience. So, if you want better performance. You'll need to put in the work on using every BIOS available to you and seeing which one offers best performance to voltage and if you're still not boosting properly, like I wasn't on either single or multi threaded tasks, then an OC may be for you, if again up to it. In some cases, setting the infinity fabric 100 below your memory speed will help increase your performance. I have also been able to lower my voltage to 1.25v from 1.275v on the CPU for a 4.2 GHz OC. Which helped my temperatures drop a tad. Now I can do a lot more high loaded work and stay cool. If all of this is too daunting, as HardwareCanucks suggest, wait on the latest BIOS, but I'd still suggest using 3F in the meantime if f4g is voltage is go to or over 1.46v when doing multi threaded tasks.
Lengthy message, I regret but this took me almost 2 weeks to do, so a 5 minute read if that, may save you a lot of time and help increase your performance and temps a lot. This works with 3700X but will need more voltage to hit 4.2 GHz due to what I read, saw on YT and have discussed with people in Reddit. 1.3V on f3 should see the 3700x stable, but I'd try 1.275v first.
I have also past all my gatherings to AMD, well most of them but AMD stopped responding after I gave them all my snippets and have since removed their Reddit post on trying to help folk with voltages. A combination of what is said in this video and the information i gathered, should help most people. Have a good weekend and enjoy your new CPU.
I just got a 3700x not too long ago and i have a question im hoping you can help with. I have a B450M DS3H WIFI Gigabyte MB. I havent messed with any settings, it on F41 bios. I'm seeing on HWM on max voltage 1.5v! Its not sustained its mostly hangs around 1.4 -1.47v. I been reading people saying that's fine and working as it should, but it seems WAY too high. I just bought a 240 CLC and it keeps temps pretty solid when gaming, around 60-70. Should i update to a newer bios, do you know if the newer bios that have come out actually help lower voltage or should i just leave it since temps are ok?
This is precisely why you should wait for all the teething issues to go away before you upgrade. I do appreciate everyone that did run out and buy these new CPU's on launch day though.
Holy crap those voltages are high! Is 1.48V okay to be running???
1.48V is normal. Some chips can even go up to 1.50V when boosting.
@@HardwareCanucks Okay thanks :) I was getting worried with my 3700X reaching over 1.45V. Im use to the older intel voltages being lower and more constant.
most of the times the cores are sleeping, you can see this behavior on ryzen master, so the cpu has extremely low current, and low load. P = V x A so the power is low.
@@tadeuferreira5705 Sometimes but not always. There have been issues (see the end of video) where the CPUs simply refuse to have their cores enter a parked / sleeping state.
But what about stock? Cause I saw some Asus boards overvolting the CPU's
This was so helpfull!! totally fixed my problem! Thanks for this video
2020 and high voltage + core clocks boosting to 4.3mhz at idle are still happening new chipset drivers and all.
idle 2%load 1.4750V :(
Same issues here. Plus, none of my cores will boost above 4.46ghz on single threaded loads. This is is with ddr4 3600 cl16 ram at a 1:1:1 ratio, no PBO or XFR.
Same here, latest bios and chipset, still have idle problems with lots of boosting and vcore, and max boost on my 3700x is still not 4.4.
This is an issue that should be talked about more! I upgraded my BIOS to the latest version (June 2020) and still seeing these insanely high idle voltages. At idle, the temp is 15-20 degrees higher than my Coffee Lake Intel CPU (same case and cooling solution). It is no real problem for the CPU, but I consider switching back to Intel to lower these temps and get boost that adapts properly to the situation.
This is my first time building PC, was so happy with the Ryzen 5 3600 launched, planning to buy it, do research about it, and then got disappointed and scared because of many people issues with the compatibility motherboard, I think I will play it safe and go with Ryzen 5 2600 since it's my first time building PC and I don't want to have problem with it
I went Ryzen 5 3600 and there are no blaring crazy issues, just a boost problem for me where its running 100 mhz slower than it should in single threaded. Otherwise its running great
@@definetlynot3932 Is that really the only thing? What are you got for that 100mhz slower? Like maybe 10 - 20 fps slower?
Do your xmp for RAM works great? And what's your motherboard? if you don't mind
Ps: sorry if I sound paranoid, since it will be my first PC abd I want to use B450 Motherboard with Ryzen 5 3600 but got scared with the issues going on
Ryzen be like ; we dont let you boost so that intel wont be jealous
Or burn your house down. Or create a international shortage of ln2?
I think some people should grow up.
ryzen be like: we wont boot... crash... black screen... overheating... amd misleading people and the same with these bias reviews that people like linus made.
Love ur channel dude. The best information. Thank you
Coming in from intel, all this crap seems like a huge pain in the ass. Kinda regret trying AMD.
and vice versa ;)
That's because Intel have basically used the same architecture for the past 5 years with minor upgrades here and there. When Intel moves to 10nm we'll probably see similar issues with Intel Mobo bios.
@@SayAnything8 the architecture is the same since sandbridge or even intel 2000 cpu
The most informative video I've seen in months, by any tech tuber, because there are mysterious settings in the bios that nobody ever seems to talk about. The 1 to 1 to 1 ratio is one of those mystery settings. I don't own AMD, nor plan to own one in the near future, but there are thousands of proud new owners, that need info like this. KUDOS!!
X570 asrock Taichi with 3900x max multicore 4.1 -4.2 max single I actually seen 4.6 for a sec in a game with hwinfo
I have an X370 board and by default it had the Core Performance Boost on, which was fixing the Core Voltage at 1.4+ volts even though the chip was idling. My temps were constantly hitting the high 40s and 50s on an open loop water setup with a 240 and 360 rad. I disabled the setting and voltages returned to normal along with temps. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the boosting behavior could be due to that setting driving voltages or temps too high.
Was that Performance Boost or Performance Boost Overdrive (also known as PBO)? If it was PBO then it should as standard be set to off or Auto or Normal (don't remember which of the later AMD used in their doc). The two later is as bit tricky in that AMD defines the setting as being the same as PBO off. It's probably something they came up with to keep people from thinking they got robbed of performance.
Thing is that PBO is a setting that tells Precision Boost how much power this particular motherboard model can supply to the CPU, so in theory PB can be more aggressive if more power is available. When PBO is off PB will use the standard power limits for this particular CPU model.
So far it appears that enabling PBO doesn't really do much for the current batches of processors. The test results I've seen on the net the performance delta with PBO on or off has been within error margins, so it doesn't look like it's worth enabling for most users. This might change with improved CPU yields and perhaps there are some "golden" CPU's out there that actually benefits from this, though so far it doesn't look like it.
As of now treat this as well as just about all other advice you get from YT comments as at least slightly suspect. Google might not be your friend, but it's a good place to start looking when trying to decide if something is just that much bull crap.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 It wasn't Precision Boost or Precision Boost Overdrive. I don't recall what it was called in the UEFI, but it was the equivalent to the Intel Multi-Core Enhancement you see on other boards. I'll have to go back into the UEFI to see what it was called.
@@jtiger102 Can you please check what the settings in the bios was? What kind of x370 MB do you have? My 1800x behaves like this but im to lazy to even bother anymore lol.
@@barzinimongo I have the Asus ROG X370-F Gaming. I checked and it under the Advanced/AMD CBS section. It is called Core Performance Boost.
I also verified that I do have Precision Boost Overdrive enabled.
@@jtiger102 Ok, ill check it out later, unless I cant be bothered to, which is highly likely, thanks.
With all these issues... Maybe I'll wait for Ryzen 4000 series.
When we'll hit same but newer bugs :P Don't you love new tech bro !?
@@vladvah77 I mean, Zen and Zen+ didn't have the same issues. They had issues of their own.
Just buy Intel there is a reason why it is more expensive...
@@eldoeldon8131 nope, no good reasons. Ryzen gives excellent perf even with the early BIOS and Intel is prone to growing pains as well. My Z170 mobo had problems OCing the RAM to 2400Mhz with decent timings and only a BIOS update released over a year after launch fixed that, letting me run 3000Mhz stable. The only thing Intel is clearly ahead in is clock speed, which they better be after so many refreshes.
nope get an i9 9900k and be done with it. you think amd will ever have a decent product? no they wont they are anti consumer as shown by how all the fecking reviewers are BIAS! legit owners of new ryzen 3000 series are screaming about the issues and lies about performance that amd said.
I'm happy with the stock performance of my 3700X (using MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX MB & 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM), so I'm not going to obsess about it. Just finished the build this last week, and my first Cinebench R20 score was 4781. That's good enough performance for me.
My 3800x hits 4.5 on half the cores with pro on my x370 xpower titanium from msi
another example of MSI being the best.
I have no issues hitting 4.4 with my 3700X on X470 Gaming M7 AC
Whilst the i9 9900K has no issues at all and hits 5GHz on all cores... yep amd 3000 series is a scam.
@@thelightsilent 9900k what's that? Oh Intel old news..
@@vh9network Lol MSI is responsible for most issues. Pretty much the entire b450 lineup from MSI doesnt boot a ryzen 3000 chip unless you restart it 4 times
@@thelightsilent =))
This bios update works for me now my cpu is doing great
I'm worried about the amount of heat the chipset is generating. Reminds me of the days of overheating Southbridges.
Thanks for your help!
my 3700x is maxing out at 4.317,1Ghz
ManMadeDesaster me too i ran the test done in this video and my temp is around 50-60 only. Any solutions??
@@MrLuminaRo same at 52 C and intl boosting to 4.3Ghz
3700x tops out on 3.9 - 4.0 ghz all core on MSI B450.. Worst upgrade ever
@@100percentmobile agree
Same how to fix this?
There's an error in the video. When you were talking about the RAM clocks, it showed an overlay saying "DDR4-3200 MHz", but that should only be "DDR4-3200". When otherwise talking about the double datarate, the correct unit is MT/s (megatransfers per second).
The video was correct. You are also correct in general but not for this video. The disconnect is that if you look at the BIOS for XMP profiles it's common to see the option of, for example, "DDR4-3200MHz 16-18-18-18" so when he said to set it to 3200MHz that's fine. He also was correct in how he talked about DDR as he had no need to talk about the data rate, just the clock speed since that's what the BIOS settings for Memory Clock and Fabric Clock were for.
1.5V on 3900x? Thats crazy!!
@@ChrisMCP2 ,
Okay TROLL. The R9-3900x uses less power when both are under full load while beating the i9-9900K at the same time due to the 50% more cores. Also don't equate voltage to power draw as it's not the same thing at all. And he's talking about INCORRECT BIOS settings not required voltage... in most gaming and more single-threaded tests the i9-9900K was less than 5% ahead but again the R9-3900x pulled ahead significantly in well threaded tests... I've done my research as it's the first AMD CPU I've considered buying since the X2-4800+ I bought a looong time ago. Have YOU done your research?
@@ChrisMCP2 hmm, its hard to belive that.... Especialy on 9900k.
Switching VCore to Normal fixed my high idle voltage on Gigabyte Aorus x570 Elite. Thanks 👍
x570 asus tuf no option vcore to normal , please help my cpu high temp
@@Apis_malaga The new AGESA bios ABBA fixed 99% of the boost issues. If you don't have the latest bios, I recommend installing it. Same with the chipset drivers.
anyone still having problems with this? my ryzen 3600 wont go past 4ghz when its suppose to boost to 4.2ghz. i have a b450 aorus pro with the latest bios.
@Bayerius damn thats running too hot. i can manually change the clock speed and im getting 75 celsius @4.2 ghz running cinebench.
@Bayerius download ryzen master and use manual oc. 4.2 ghz is suppose to be the boost clock anyway so i dont see any reason why warranty would be void. just make sure ur temps are good.
I have the mainboard "ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E Gaming" and AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and it runs with maximum 4 GHz with optimized defaults with current firmware.
Hello plz I have the same motherboard but my cpu have an issue like in the video stay on 4ghz on idle so how u fix this ?
laughs in intel (at stable 5ghz)
I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and my problem was that the CPUs simply refuse to have their cores enter a parked / sleeping state (1.45 to 1.47V with no softwares running in the background ) I update the Chipset , updated the BIOS , I set the voltage to 1.2V in the BIOS but nothing worked until I used AMD MASTER ! for some reason that worked for me and i set the cores to 4.2GHZ and the voltage to 1.375 and it worked wonderfully ! I had more stability and less Temp and i got much more points in the benchmarks programmes. Hopefully this could help out someone else 🥰
My mobo gets to 1.475v, i feel like its gonna explode :O
Can't you set manual voltage much lower until the new fixed BIOS will be available?
@@vladvah77 i just did, after testing what i saw in this video the voltage went up to 1.520v, so i set it to 1.35v, the problem is, now my cpu frequency tops at 4.275ghz
@@RavageSoul69 What temperatures for idle and load with 1,35 V?
lol... 1.54v here, x370 Professional Gaming and a 2700x kkkkk
@@kodato92 What cooling solution?
I'm seriously thinking about dropping a 3900x into my C6H 370X motherboard this Christmas. I hope they get everything worked out soon!
I guess Dmitry quited😂
*closes video immediately*
LOL! Preparing for a vacation and LTX takes time! :)
@@HardwareCanucks Anyway, keep up the good work 😎
another potenital fix:
set your Affinity on one CCX/Die, for games (Linus discovered that). It boosts the games min and avg fps about 10-12fps, also massively reducing fps drops and microstutters.
just buy Intel
Would it be possible to post a tutorial on how to adjust those bios settings across the popular motherboard manufacturers so the end user can adjust the settings using their bios version? Asus, gigabyte, etc?
or get Intel 🤣
Nice video. Thanks.
@HardwareCanucks I see that your 3900x appears to be doing the same thing mine does, all boosting to 4.6, 4.625, or 4.65 all happen on one chiplett, while all other cores on the second chiplett never boost past about 4.4 ~ 4.5(if that, mainly just 4.375, but I've seen a couple times where some of those cores get to 4.5, but very rarely)
Is this behaviour the same on all 3900x's?
I think that AMD binned these 2 compute cores cpus to use one "good" with high boost MHz chiplet and one "average" chiplet with normal boost clocks.
@@vladvah77 That's exactly what I thought too, best way to reach $499 pricepoint and still have good margins. Just curious to see if HardwareCanucks thought the same.
My 3900x used to boost up to 4550mhz single core roughly, but then I updated to the latest bios and now the max is 4291! :|
Temps in the single core test were 50c.
Latest bios is said to be bug ridden.
Hello, did you use PBO only, or Auto OC, or both ? Thank you ?
thanks.. the hidden bios enable on the boost had be stumped.. great!
thanks for this; very useful!
Past 3600 or 3733mhz? I've heard 3733 but I've heard some reviewers saying 3600. Still not sure which it is.
3600MHz for 1:1:1 operation.
3733 with as low CL as possible or is best for performance, as above that changes the timings ratio so you get worse performance at 4000 for example. But the best bang for the buck is 3600 CL16, or atleast best at a reasonable price.
@@HardwareCanucks thanks
@@giggyolly had to go with 3600mhz cl17 for cost reasons but Snows on the HWC Boot Sequence channel showed it's a pretty good sweet spot overall, not losing any ground to 3200 cl14 but being better in some other metrics outside of pure gaming.
@@CoalitionGaming yep that still decent, I went for 3466 CL16 as it was about $50 cheaper than 3600 CL16. But this is all withing any perceivable difference, so don't worry about it!
great video !
Thank you for the video. I am mostly effected by sporadic temps, possibly caused by voltage spikes and drops. I probably wouldn't notice if the cooler (stock) didn't ramp up and down during these fluctuations.
yeah! same here. My ryzen 3700x keeps jumping between 3.6 to 4.4 and the same goes with the voltage, it's all over the place. I get a steady 4.0 @ 1.35/80 Celcius when running cinebench R20. By the way, I'm using AMD's wraith prism cooler and Ryzen balanced power.
Set a delay and up that fan curve should fix that
Really useful. Thanks. :)
have Gigabyte AB350M mobo and had to set ram memory profile to XMP in order to get correct clocks of my 3000 mhz ram. Only after setting the XMP profile in bios, clocks showed correctly at 1500 mhz (was at 1066, as if my ram was 2133 mhz), and I was clueless to this until now, so a massive thanx from me
My 5800x3d won’t pass 3.6ghz
I have a 3950X with an asus x570 - F strix, but i can not get more than 4.2 ghz, i am ussing only the 8pins cpu plug, could this be the problem? Temps are ok I have the Kraken x62 max temp i get 70degree, 64gb ddr4 corsair 3000mhz.
Honestly, it seems as though updating the chipset drivers did the most work. Much lower idle temps after I updated.
Thanks for your video on this topic! It’s good to see there are fixes for most of these issues. However, I’m not sure if I am happy with AMD’s quality control. But then again, I am not exactly happy with Intel‘s QC either.
Should I go for Intel or AMD. Which has more problems? I'm a wedding photographer not a Gamer.
Thanks
I'm liking the price drop in zen+. My mobo supports the newer chips too with a bios update.
did you create those power plans? I don't see those so I assume you did.
Great video, super helpful.
AMD needs to sometimes just take a step back, iron out the tiny wrinkles that can put a slight dampener on a product launch and then release.
Maybe something like a Class Action would encourage them to do proper launches in the future.
@@ottowokeninger9617 possibly a little too far :-)
*WARNING ON VOLTAGE*
Please note that the voltage MAY be quite different in reality from what the motherboard BIOS or software reports. Steve from Gamers Nexus did a good video on that where he had a thermocouple attached and it was showing something like 1.4V when the BIOS was more like 1.25V. The latter was considered very safe for the APU he was testing and the former guaranteed to KILL THE CPU!! And people were pushing things to 1.3V even which would be roughly 1.45V in reality. Ouch... I would hold off on raising voltages until you investigate to see if YOUR EXACT MODEL of motherboard is reporting correctly. If you can't find out then either roll the dice or err on the side of safety. Considering the small gains to be had I wouldn't mess with raising voltages if you can avoid it.
(errr... ignore where I said "thermocouple" as that obviously isn't how you measure voltage. It translates heat into a voltage but you measure voltage with an O-scope or direct sensors to a multi-meter or whatever)
New tech problems...and here I am, patient and happy with my new system parts still in their unopened packaging ready to be built but waiting for 5700 partner cards xD
That was high vcore, I was able to get all core 4,3 Ghz on 3900X on air on 1,26. On 1.3 I was able to go 1,350. It seemed after 4,3 I needed two steps up in vcore for each 25 Mhz for it not to freeze. But I have now set it on 1,3 Vcore and 4,3 Ghz even still I could seem to OC and run apps and cinebench on 1,26Vcore. (all core boost).
It of course still boosts on the other cores.
Should also be noted that I ran it in balanced mode, I have seen the high performance mode but didnt switch it.
I got then cinebench scoref about 3150-3200 +- some, seems it gets a tad different for each run
May U advice me a ram for my new 3900x with MSI or Gigabyte X570 m.b. I will buy soon in September: is better (for gaming but not only) 3200MHz cas 14, or 3600MHz cas 16 ? Thank you, nice video !
3200 MHz CAS 14 and you can overclock it to 3600 if you wish!
@@vladvah77 Thank you !
Model F4-3200C14D-32GTZR that for example are ok ?
For the point at 8:13 in regards to the processor keeping high voltages. Take a peek into the Advanced Settings of the Ryzen Balanced Plan and scroll down to Processor power management and select "Minimum processor state." When I first opened it up, I was surprised to see that the MINIMUM POWER STATE for my 3700x (with latest chipset drivers) defaulted at 99%. Meaning, the margin of power management was between 99%-100% (Maximum Processor state).
When compared to Windows Balanced Minimum processor state..it was all the way down to 5%. After making the tweaks to the Minimum processor state, I idle at 40C now with 0.944v. When opening up a game (Fortnite in my case) where it requires the boost in performance, that's the only time when the voltages strike up; as it is needed for more load.
Hope this helps out anyone.
my minimum processor state under Ryzen Balanced was set to 0. Is that ok? or should I change it?
Its always prudent to wait out a couple of months before upgrading to a new processor (or any other tech for that matter).
More like 6 months +
@@24321619 Yea, the longer the better
imagine if everyone did that. we wouldnt have the bios updates or improvements to make it better :p
@@definetlynot3932 lol true btw
Some of the problems are in power plans that do not allow for processor to dip below certain percentage of utilisation.