travis hylton hmm. What were your stock temps and motherboard? Another user had similar issue where his Asus motherboard wouldn’t do anything to lower the voltages. He has to use method two instead :(
travis hylton what we’re you able to offset your voltage by? -0.075v? Also the chip might be pushing harder since it sense headroom. So although you opened up some temp range it might be reutilizing it to give you more performance. You might want to track your before average frequency and after average frequency. Method 2 will certainly give you better temp results across the board if you are comfortable with that. But you could always modify your fan curve to help improve noise levels too
Good information! Honestly didn't even know about this haha. I typically just smash delete sooooo I never searched for other ways to enter the BIOS haha.
Thanks for this comment. I actually learned this a few days ago from another viewer haha. It’s nice to see you guys adding to the value of the video :). Never even knew about that until I saw the other comment too! I get to learn something new every day haha
@@TheCuttz1984 for sure! And yeah its actually super nice. My test bench loads so fast that often times I miss the splash screen to jump in the BIOS so this is def useful lol
Thanks! This means a lot to me. I'm excited for the day we blow up haha. I have a lot planned for this channel and am excited to see where we go hahah.
@Sabol Anton 84C isn’t even bad man. As long as you’re not very close to the max limit then you’re fine. And considering it’s cinebench, that’s a pretty good max temp. Mine was 86C when I undervolted 0.05 volts, so I decided to just set my Ryzen cpu to eco mode. I didn’t lose too much performance, and I got 76C as my max limit in cinebench multi core. I’d say to do that if undervolting isn’t working for you.
My Ryzen 3600, combined with its stock cooler and MSI B450 A Pro motherboard, was remarkably tolerant to undervolting, and was able to be stable at an offset of -0.125 V. This dropped my peak Cinebench R20 temperature by about 10 degrees, and oddly increased my Cinebench scores a tiny bit. My procedure and results are as follows: No offset: 3514 multi/479 single, peak temp 87.8 C -.05 V: 3501 multi/477 single, peak temp 83.8 C -.0625 V: 3515 multi/477 single, peak temp 82.8 C -.075 V: 3515 multi/480 single, peak temp 81.4 C -.0875 V: 3522 multi/481 single, peak temp 80.5 C -.100 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.9 C -.1125 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.8 C -.125 V: 3540 multi/483 single, peak temp 77.5 C .... but later crashed -.1375 V: crashed to blue screen during Cinebench However, I noticed in HWiNFO that my peak core frequencies were reduced by about 25 MHz across all cores from this undervolt. I’m guessing that in order to achieve those peak boosts of 4150 to 4200 MHz, my CPU required a burst of 1.475 V, and my manual offset limited this to 1.35 V. Nevertheless, this undervolting project was fruitful since I am getting the same performance but with lower temperature. I was also able to run through free PCMark10 software with my -.1125 V undervolt without crashing or performance loss. With regard to manually setting the voltage and frequency, this is something I also experimented with recently, but later decided to undo those changes due to fear of degrading my chip. This was due to a recent video at th-cam.com/video/tXV09dF79Kw/w-d-xo.html. My comment on that video was as follows: “Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages: 4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C 4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C 4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better performance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler. I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.”
These are great results. I might have another offset method coming in the future that might help your temps even more =) Someone made a comment on this video with some insightful information so I'm testing some stuff to see if it works!! So stay tuned for part 2 perhaps haha.
Thank you so much, funny how easy it was when someone explains to those like that didn't know too much about it. I also have a tomahawk max and a r5 3600x. With 0.0600 V I got about a drop from 74C to 65C which made me really happy. Cinebench was the same. No noticeable difference in games either. You rock man thanks again. You got a subscriber.
@@LehmonMedia So would 0.06v be a good/standard under volt to have set on the 3600x? Have couple pc's but we do use them a bit so just don't really have enough time to run all the test and repeat unfortunately. I do have a 360 aio.. but would still apppreciate the cooler cpu temps. :D
Niiiice! I got worried when seeing 88°C while playing far cry 4 and borderlands 3. I set the voltage to 1.25 and multiplier to 40. Running at constant 60°C now with the stock cooler. Thank you so much man!
Mines been going from 82-91 so I stopped using my computer for a little bit just cuz I didnt want to damage my new cpu will try this now. I will update you
Thank you.. I used the second method and i am able to reduce the CPU temp from 94 to 77 (max) on cinebench R20..also the benchmark result improved from 3518 to 3575. Changes I did: CPU speed : Increased to 4 Ghz from default 3.6 Ghz CPU voltage: Set to 1.120V My setup: Ryzen 5 3600 MSI B450 Tomahawk max 2X8Gb G.skill 3200mhz RAM RX580 graphics CPU stock cooler ( wraith stealth)
ALL STOCK: oc to 4.1, voltage 1.15, during Cinebench temperature down from max 92 to max 83, score increased from 3534 to 3678. I want to say THANK YOU a lot to take away my OCD to always watching at temperature during game time. Now average temperature during game 60-70, down from 75-90, thanks again!
Hey man! I actually did see your video and it was a really good too! I get a lot of questions about temps so I figured I'd make a video on it. In fact, I thought it was funny because after I got done writing my script I started doing keyword research (which I typically do before writing my script to make sure it's worth it) and ran into your video. And I was like WHOA... This topic has more interest than I thought and has basically one video specifically on it. And your video had like 40k views on it at the time so I was like the title must be pretty solid... So I mayyyy have borrowed parts of the title haha.. hope you don't mind 😅 Congrats on 1k btw
@@LehmonMedia Dont mind at all! I love the tech community on youtube and really just love adding to the conversation. We can all learn and grow together. at the end of the day its all about our love of tech. And thanks hope both our channels keep growing!
Totally agree man. The tech community rocks. I try to comment here and there to different videos throughout the community. Meet new creators! I’m actually really glad you commented here. I was gonna comment on your video but I wasn’t sure how you’d take it that I was making a similar video haha. But you are right we can all learn from each other and continue to grow and help each other grow 👍🏼👍🏼
@@rub900 some applications may not have the volume to put a large cooler in it. I found it very informative and interesting that it's possible to shave a fair number of degrees c simply by reducing voltage. Perhaps I could recommend a nice video of a baby puking or other such "now this" nonsense since I think that would be more enjoyable to your oxygen deprived mind.
Now I understand what Jayztwocents meant when he said “overclocking amd can hurt performance”, you explained the single/multi core performance so much better. Thanks!
Jay was referring to overclocking memory/Fclock passed 3733 MHz will have a negative effect on performance. Overclocking your CPU frequency will still give a positive outcome but setting your offset correctly you can overclock all cores to it's known turbo boost.
@@tskraj3190 actually check Gamer nexus, best performance are with fclk to 1900 and memory to 3800mhz and those are my settings, i also gained 20° on load temps bimy son volting my 3600 to 1.16 volt i have all cores at 4200mhs
@@ViperVenoM13 hi bro, could you give me more details on the method you used to make that undervolt and getting 4.2ghz? I'm about to install my 3600x with the freezer esports duo and I doubt I need to touch the cpu ratio since the Temps will be good enough with that cooler
@@jotazrendipia1184 yes if you have a good cooling you can just use PBO with manual value to max . i mut this values 1.225 core volt and 1.11 i hit 4.4 on two cores sometimes more i went down to 1833 fclk and 3666 mhz ram
Thank you for this. I did the first one and I am getting 5 degrees less with a ryzen 5 3600. It's not much but it really made a differnce as I am just hovering around 47-58 degrees while browsing and playing Genshin Impact. I'd say the really big difference is the lesser temperature spike that is really common with my cpu
Thank you so much, my temps went from 80-85º playing AC: Valhalla to nearly 65º. Quite simple method but yet very effective. Perfect explanation as well. Keep up the good work!
Due to cooler temps and higher core clocks, i immediately saw a 15-20°C drop at idle, 20-30 in games, and ~10fps increase so far. Impressive stuff, thanks a lot man. I was worried I was gonna have to buy a new cpu cooler! Previously, I was getting up to 85-105°C in games. I was getting really worried
Randomly stumbled upon this video,I guess it got recommened since I was doing reasearch on this same exact topic couple of weeks ago. Quality is for sure up there with the big channels and I got really surprised when I noticed you replied to every single comment so I decided to give you a like and subscribe.
Haha. Thanks man! Welcome to the community and if there’s anything you’d like to see let me know. I have a long list at this point but I try to cover many topics that you guys have questions on haha :) And I certainly try to answer as much as I can. I won’t lie the last month has been VERY difficult to keep up haha. Buttt I do my best :)
This is the only video of yours that I've ever watched. Based on this video alone, I've subscribed to your channel. BRAVO! Interestingly, with my Ryzen 7 2700X system, before seeing your video, I pretty much tried both of your approaches. I settled on approach 2. In the multi-week (spare time) experimentation, I learned something quite interesting. Voltage dramatically impacts power draw and temperatures. Load dramatically impacts power and temperatures. Clock speed - not so much. ... Takeaway-I can run reasonably high clock speeds yet power and temps stay quite moderate except under load. With my water cooled 2700X, I ultimately settled on a 4.0 GHz clock speed and a 1.18125 voltage. So far those settings have made my computer COMPLETELY stable. At idle, power consumption vacillates between 9.5 and 14 watts. With a stock configuration, power draw vacillated between 14 and 20 watts. (I WAS SHOCKED.) SHOCKER 2: In stock configuration, a Handbrake load resulted in about a 130 watt draw, an average core clock speed of about 3.95 GHz and maximum temps of about 67 degrees C. Compared to stock my under-volt-overclock runs were just over one percent faster with approximately a 35 watt lower power draw and high core temps about 11 degrees C cooler. Who said there's no free lunch? I got two full sized free lunches plus an appetizer.
Side note: The most intensive load I ever expose my computer to is Handbrake. I don't care whether or not AIDA 64 or Prime 95 would blue screen my computer; I never run them. All my testing was done with Handbrake. For me, qualifying AIDA 64 or Prime 95 stability is unnecessary and would probably have resulted in me running a slightly higher static voltage. Good luck all.
Thanks man =) And I love your thorough testing haha. I totally agree with you on the fact AIDA64/P95 are kind of unnecessary. As long as your system is 100% stable in the applications you use then you are solid IMO The reason I mostly recommend those things in my video is because most new users need it to be 100% and the reason I say this is, they don't know how a blue screen feels haha. Your first ever blue screen and your heart drops into your stomach and you think your PC blew up when in reality it's fine lol. It's even worse if you are in the middle of a game or something. You'd probably be surprised at how many times my buddies have called or texted me freaking out after a blue screen lol. And also thats why I love undervolting. Save yourself heat and power usage while gaining a bit of performance most of the time =)
Great video! I had heard that AMD runs hot so I was expecting high temps. My air-cooled 3950x build was 60 degrees C at idle. Adding another pwm case fan did not help. I have an additional CPU cooler fan in the wings. This is a video editing machine. ASUS x570 BIOS is set to defaults or AUTO. (I wanted nothing to do with overclocking). Temps were starting to peak higher now that spring is here and the room has higher ambient temps. I stumbled upon an article to lower the voltage. Turns out the default/AUTO voltage is 1.4+. The article was about the offset method. I set the BIOS to offset negative by an "AUTO" amount. I didn't know what a good offset was because "every pc is different". Also as I said, I knew about overclocking but nothing about "best practices". Anyway, whatever "AUTO" means, it resulted in 20 degree drop at idle and peaks have been lower. (I have to be vague because I am observing real world temps and work loads which are not repeatable easily) All the content I've read/viewed has said that 1.4 is a ridiculously high voltage that is (probably) used to ensure that there won't be undervoltage instability. So now I find I need/want to know what is happening in the BIOS/chip. This video is one of the better video as it is easily understood and do-able. Thanks
Best guide I’ve ever seen to lowering temps simplified. You helped me shed 25 degrees Celsius, while performing better according to cinabench by 250 points
@@LehmonMedia thx so much it works verry stable ım using stock ryzen 3000 cooler even with that cooler its stable also gained extra perfomance ı got higher scores on bench mark test
Man, just watched the video and read a bunch of comments and you answer almost every one of them (including the same question over and over) that's really impressive; taking time to answer, that makes you a great person. Thanks for the tips, I'll turn down a little the temps on my 3600 which reaches 80C on some games with stock cooler, not that much of a enthusiast but want to keep lower temps.
Thanks for the compliment but I am just a normal guy trying to help out haha. My goal is to help answer as many questions as I can so you guys can enjoy PCs as much as I do lol! I hope that you get some solid results with the stock cooler and if you have any questions feel free to let me know!
I built my first rig two months ago and noticed this too. You can get rid of tradeoff too, if you overclock further. I have a 4,25GHz overclock at 1,20V stable. I use a coolermaster Hyper212 though. I noticed that the cheapest way to cool the system more effectively, is to have more airflow in the room, and having a PC Case that lets much air through (or put some air coolers for 5€ in there). In regular use I don't get more than 70C (doing data analysis).
I agree with that. Having better ambient and better airflow is a great idea! And you are certainly right. If you clock it higher it does remove the single core disadvantage. I'm shocked you got 1.2v stable at 4.25GHz on the 3600. That's pretty good. You ran Prime95/AIDA64 & R20 stress test for a while to confirm stable?
Thank you so much. I had around 80 degrees playing forza 7 with only 20% usage. Stock cooler on 100%. I changed as you said to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and now I have around 55 to 60 degrees even though the cooler runs at around half the speed now. Performance feels the same as before :D
Thank you for this video. I recently spent 1300$ on a PC and was upset that I couldn't play a lot of the games I love without frying my PC. I set my stuff to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and It lowered my temps by 20c ! Thank you very much because now I don't have to spend a bunch of money on a cooler and I can enjoy more games 😁 subbed!
For the third method I think to overclock and under volt, if you have Ryzen master you can do it though there instead of bios. So you don’t gotta jump forward and back!
Yeah I like the idea of messing around with it in Ryzen master and then using the settings in the BIOS. I certainly should have mentioned you could do it on ryzen master too!
I set my Ryzen 5 3600 (stock cooler) to 4,000mhz and 1.15v. It's stable and dropped my idle CPU temps from 60c to 45c edit: 3,900mhz to 1.18 volts is stable for me too (stock cooler) for a more modest overclock.
Great video man, great production quality feel! Stumbled on you because I’m doing my first Ryzen 3000 build and was really shocked to see the thermals I am getting over the past Ryzen builds I’ve done.
Yeah thermals are certainly up there haha. The annoying part is when it boosts and temps spike up causing all the fans to ramp up lol And thanks man I appreciate it :)
I'd like to note that single threaded tasks are few and far between. Most games released in the past few years are multithreaded and as soon as you start using more than 1 core, you lose the extra single core boosts.
This video saved my life! My Ryzen 5 3600 was shooting up to around 65°-72° in the middle of a game, which was the hottest I’ve seen it get. I ended up using Ryzen master cause I didn’t wanna figure out the bios settings, but now it’s down to low 40s-50s while gaming which is the lowest I’ve seen. I ended up clocking it at 4100mhz & 1.15v. The idle also went from around 45° to mid-low 30s° getting higher scores on cinebench too. I thought my AIO was failing but I guess not. Thing runs ice cold now & haven’t seen much of a performance drop.
Yeah haha. I learned this from a few other viewers. Never knew that until then and that's the best part of TH-cam. You guys learn some stuff and so do I =) It's always awesome to learn new stuff.
I thought this was clickbait but oh my oh my it actually works. I was surprise by how it went from 95* c to 70* c. Previously, at idle it would be around 78* c. Now, idle is at around 50 - 55* c
hey i also Have ryzen 7 3700x with msi 240r aio and my idle temp usually between 41-55 and At full load its max to 85° at 4ghz!! Is it normal or just fine? Also Its on 1.26 volts!!
@@hritik7080 240 aio and 85 degree at 4ghz lol.. When Gaming It barely Reach 70 degree with 4.1ghz Cooler noctua nh 15 While Benchmarking it shouldnt go above 80 degrer either... However if 1.3volt or plus While benchmarking it should reach 85 degree maybe.. I m Using Arctic Mx 4 paste n Noctua nh1 paste...on Cpu U should Replace paste every 1 year or 10 months
@@AgoxGaming Bro i just build this pc few days ago but i don't know how to Fix this & i know my Aio is good in cooling but don't know how to solve this problem:-( Also Its on 1.26 volts at full load
Found this video on my home screen. I am going to give it a go on my 3900x. I've been wanting to tame it a bit. Thanks man I am subscribed and looking forward to more quality content!
@@LehmonMedia so I wanted to report with a -.1 offset (and also fixing DRAM voltage) CPU clocks are 4375 in Farcry 5 as I writing this and the Cinebench went up about 175 points on MT. And temps went doen about 7 C. Stoked thanks again awsome bday present lol!
@@basswolf2331 I gave that a try and it tanked my performance. My CPU at load is pulling about 1.4ish with the offset so I think that is the sweet spot for my chip. I was thinking the same thing tho, was kind of surprised how much it hurt my CB score and how low the clocks went down at 1.35 v override
Hey, you really helped me. I were getting 75°C while playing with only a 45% CPU usage. Now i set my r5 3600 at 1.35V and 4.1 GHz and i'm getting 61°C while playing and 72°C at 100%
@@laszlobedo929 Do you have any questions? Depending on your ambient temps that might be pretty decent results. I think you should be able to push that voltage lower (depending on your motherboard) though.
@@LehmonMedia I set this in ryzen master,doesnt in my motherboard (Msi b450 Gaming plus max),i have Zalmann z9 neo case with 5 12cm fans,and Alpenfön Broken Eco Advanced, i bought for the cpu coller a second fan (Arctic bionix P120 ACFAN00116A), just a little strange the same settings and it is looks hot.
I have ryzen 5 3600x What I did is turning off core boost performance from my bios settings and my CPU core clock will be at 3800ghz all the time , temps are below 55c even at gaming I will keep it that way until I get water cooler
This is basically equivalent to the methods here so I'm happy to see your results are solid! I will say a cooler such as the Hyper 212 Black Edition will likely be good enough to keep your chip temps in check while at stock settings. At least it is for my 3600.
There's no need to keep switching bios settings between tweaks. Just lower your voltage on Ryzen Master. Once you find your stable settings, do it on bios. It's much easier this way. I did find my sweet spot on 4.2 all core with 1.15v. I guess silicon gods are with me this time. Once in a lifetime...
This is certainly great feedback. I didn't even think about this when I made the video but it is a great point! Thanks and congrats on the great chip haha =)
well I've been using this setting for 3 weeks and so far so good. I did some heavy benchmarks such as cinebench, ocdt, aida64 and playing cod warzone. Its working fine.
Awesome video man, helped me a lot. Really appreciate it 👍🏽 I also have a R5 3600, I used the first method and dropped my avg cpu temp by 14 degrees Celsius
I did the 1st method offset on my 3700x and i got a roughly 1 Celcius lower temperature (75C to 74C) with a -0.1V offset lol. Although my cinebench score actually did improve a tiny bit, so ill probably just keep it at that. If anyone is wondering, i prefer not to do the 2nd overclock method because ive noticed that PBO in the past has caused my games to crash, i didnt want to bother with that risk. My max cinebnech stress temp is only 75C anyway.
Yeah the first method is really YMMV because of the boosting algorithm. Sometimes you save some, other times it just pushes your chip to higher boost clock speed which doesn’t help with temps. In any case your temps aren’t bad anyways so you really don’t need to do anything if you didn’t want. Also PBO isn’t used in either method. It’s left at auto which is equivalent (from what I can tell) as off
@@LehmonMedia Yea i know PBO isnt technically used but PBO is also an overlock which has caused a lot of trouble for me. I also game almost exclusively anyway so i dont really care about productivity scores but more so single core scores if anything (for games).
I can see you needing single core. I always recommend playing games at stock as well as with a manual clock/undervolt and see what the average drop is (if any). Make sure to do multiple tests to get a good idea too. I’ve found a lot of games wont see much of a fps drop at all and that’s with my 3900x at 4GHz. It’s always going to be up to you and that’s why building PCs and tinkering is so powerful. You get to customize your experience which is boss haha
I would say not on that. I did my testing that way but it still force's a restart every time you change voltages so you might as well just do it in the bios.
@@hugopolo-lecoffredugeek8318 you can't. You still need to boot into your OS to test. But either way using ryzen master or bios to set you voltage you have to reboot.
Probably VRM throttling then. I don't know much about that board but A320 boards are the bottom of the barrel sort of speak so I could see that happening.
When I saw title I immediately thought undervolt AMD products in general are overvolted so even less stable parts function as they should. My R9 Fury could undervolt quite a lot without any loss to performance. Some users saw drops in power consumption of 60w, that's nearly 22% less power drawn.
Hahahah. Yeahhhhh it works haha. I just wish they would allow you to use the boosting feature with a overridden voltage. I mean I know you can always get a better CPU cooler too, but even then why not improve your temps even more if you can you know?
4K may push your GPU a little harder depending on what you are doing which will increase temps on your system. In general though you shouldn't see higher max temps at 4K than at 1080p
I don't exactly understand all these results people are finding with undervolting. With my 3600 i set a fixed voltage at 1.2 and set the offset speed to 4200mhz and so far i am receiving better temperatures and a higher cinebench score than when i left everything stock or used PBO.
I am firmly in the camp of the override/fixed multiplier undervolt - offsets can be stable at full load, but fail at partial load, and there's no way to test this. You just have to wait for the crash. Override mode covers all scenarios - if it's stable with all-core, it'll be stable with single-thread. Just make sure you run your VRM frequencies as high as safely possible (helps with voltage stability), and use MODERATE loadline calibration - enough to give SOME droop when all the cores are loaded (which is why it's crash-proof - single-threaded workloads get very slightly higher volts than multi-threaded.)
@@conter888 Vcore is set at 1.25 volts. Also before installing the cooler I scraped off the thermal pad, lapped the plate on the cooler, and used artic silver. Other then that, got one front 120mm intake fan, 120mn exhaust fan, and a 80mm on the side cover to pull air out.
Thanks very helpful - really appreciate you going the BIOS route not playing with the Ryzen master app as I multiboot OS's and I need my changes not to be limited to just windows performance. cheers
The best way I've found to do overclocks is not to use static voltages. Use Offset voltages still. Then your voltages will still drop significantly while the CPU is idle, thus giving you even better idle temperatures and chip lifespan. With my Ryzen 3900x I am able to get a stable OC of 4.2ghz all-core with only 1.14v and with a Level 3 LLC I only dip to 1.12v under 100% load. Idle temps around 35C and voltages drop to 0.3v. Full load temps only hit around 70-73C. But you have to make sure to also force Global C-States on with the Ryzen chips or else the voltage won't drop at idle.
I too like to use offset voltages when available unfortunately this doesn't work for all motherboards. I have worked with motherboards where you are completely right and the voltage drops if you use offset mode but not if you use manual. I have also used motherboards that no matter what you do, the voltage drops while idling. Also most programs (besides Ryzen Master), won't even show it. In any case yeah if you have those things accessible I think you certainly have a good point. Also just as an FYI chip lifespan is more or less completely determined on CPU temp. This article may be old but it still holds true: www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/723980-Truth-about-CPU-degradation
Instead of having to switch back and forth between windows and bios to test different settings, you can use AMD Ryzen Master to set the voltage and cpu clock speed directly in windows. Then once you find the best settings set them in the bios
This is certainly something you can do 100%. The only problem I found with it is sometimes you'll find your RM settings unstable bc booting typically requires more voltage than when you are actually at the desktop. So I've seen systems that look to be stable at the desktop using RM and then once you switch it in the BIOS it's unstable. Again great method to get a rough estimate though =).
So, after watching it twice, I'm going to try it today. Have already set up the Baseline. Also going to try lowering the PPT. Do you have any suggestions for that?
Ankur Kaushik some people claim it helps. I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with PPT. Mostly losing performance due to it with only decent temp drops. I’m not sure though. I’ve only tested it on like 5 to 10 different boards with the 3600, 3700x, and 3900x so YMMV
I don't see any offset settings in ASRock B450m Steel Legend. I have an Advanced tab, and an AMD Overclocking tab, but I don't see anything about Offset or any option that let's me change those values.
There is a section under OC Tweaker called "CPU Frequency and Voltage (VID) Change" The Frequency is there to be change. Towards the bottom of OC Tweaker you should see the VCore set to auto which you should be able to change to fixed mode or offset mode. Let me know if that helps. The only ASRock board I have is the B550M Pro4 so the BIOS could be a bit different.
On my Ryzen 3900x I ended up dropping vcore a bit, and then with the lower voltage was able to maintain a slight overclock to 4ghz on all cores and still keeping temps within a good range.
Eshaan Vasanthakumar seeing your results is a good enough thank you for me :). If you have any friends with a ryzen 3000 series chip feel free to share it to them haha. Thanks buddy and happy gaming’
@@LehmonMedia love your support even after few months. I am from India and it is kind of difficult to find this info there ase everyone is a intel fanboy so I will propagate this as much as possible
Hi. I am from India too. I recently got a R5 3600 CPU and found out that temps go around 75 degrees for some games even on medium settings. Let's say I undervolt the CPU and keep its clock speed as what you've done to lower the temperature, will it deteriorate the CPU over time quickly or further increase its longevity??
@@khunii2188 se like that is the same what happened to me but I undervolting to 1.1 volts and then boosted it to 4gzh. It has reduced the tems for high 70s to hight 50s while gaming and then while cinebench r20 it was at hight 90s and now at low 70s. Undervolting will increase life span as it runs at lower tems and I only over clocked it a little as there was no big diffrebce forn 3.95 volts to 4.gzh
Couldn't get it but override mode wasn't the solution for me. It changed nothing but doing ofset method my cpu runs faster and -22 cooler even with the -0.500 settings. that was amazing. thx :)
hey i got problem with my temp. i use asrock B450 Pro 4 with ryzen 5 3600 with stock AMD cooler. before i reduce the core voltage my temp reach almost to 101°C while normal gaming. and i follow ur step and reduce the voltage to 1.1000 and the clock speed is 4.0 Ghz and now its around 75°C while gaming and 60°C-65°C when idle and for me its still hot. and with my current temp is it affecting my processor long term durability? can u help me with my problem? thanks (and sorry for bad English)
One thing if your playing just games, especially esport games your don't need all 12 threads. Can turn off SMT and get a better overclock, temps, or lower voltages.
By the way. The best way to undervolt ryzen is by its P0 state. This way the cpu will downclock and downvolt itself like in stock settings. But unfortunately not all mobos allow to change cpu P states (my msi b450 tomahawk doesnt) The method with Vcore overdrive is the worst. This way you lock both frequency and voltage. So if your mobo doesnt allow you to change Pstates, the only option is to use Vcore voltage + offset. And lock the frequency. Voltage will drop when cpu is idling. Frequency will be always maxed but its only 2Watt difference between stock and OC.
Schmidty_Fps your welcome! I hope it helped a lot! Also it is normal for temps to be higher because of PBO. And it leads you to needing powerful cooling. This just helps a bit with that
Hahah Thanks Nugget! This truly means a lot to me... It takes time to grow and one day we will get there. If my quality ever slips make sure you let me know haha =)
I tried doing that before this video came out and it didn't help as much so I ended adding 3 more fans to my rig plus a deepcool CPU cooler and now I sit around the 40 to 50s and Max temp is 70
If you're afraid on playing around with the BIOS settings, you can still use AMD Ryzen Master software to test things and after you find the ideal settings, apply them on your BIOS. Here's a great video on what I just said: th-cam.com/video/5JTuxMnrqds/w-d-xo.html
@@LehmonMedia I tried it out and wasn't getting results. Turned out my case airflow was bad and the stock cooler of my AMD Ryzen 5 3600 wasn't enough. After switching to a Cooler Master Hyper H410R RGB and adding another exhaust fan, temps went down quite a lot when tweaking voltage. I'm running 4GHz at 1.1 Volts.
Would you recommend lowering the PPT with the Ryzen Master to lower the temp? I got a 3300X and found out on a video about this particular CPU optimization from Optimum Tech's channel. He said its better to lower the PPT with Ryzen Master rather than undervolting the 3300X in BIOS to lower the temp as it would give instability.
Naofal Nirvana you could. I haven’t tested PPT all that much yet because when I was testing it it was smashing the performance of my 3600. I have new motherboards coming in so I’ll probably be messing around with it when they get in. Give it a shot and see how it does for you :)
Did some more testing and to be honest 4.2 GHz works with +0.1250 offset but doesn't have enough power to keep all cores running at 4.2GHz, although a good CB score of 5070. Prime95 gets it to it's knees in the end on the blend test. But HWinfo shows 1 core/ 2 threads cannot follow the others in performance. So actually higher voltage is needed. So after more trying and testing the most stable for me: CPU - 4Ghz PBO - Off. Voltage - auto (not above 1.1330v most of the time) Room temp: 23°C CPU temp idle : 35°C CPU temp CB-r20 : 66°C score 4791 Prime95 smallest FTT temp : 74°C Prime95 small FFT : 74°C In game : 54°C
Nice results man! I'm glad you were able to achieve this! And yeah sometimes a few cores do lack in performance. That's why Ryzen Master software actually list out what your best cores are in each CCX
Followed step 2 Ryzen-5 3600 stock cooler, MSI B550 Gaming plus MB, Asus 1660 Super build Xigmatek trident case with 4 RGB fans with approximately 30-35°C room temperature (Im living at Middle East). CinebenchR20 with default settings, score was 3464 multicore and 481 single core, CPU temp peaked at 88°C. Cinebench R20 CPU set to 4Ghz and 1.2V, score was 3438 multicore and 459 single core, CPU temp peaked at 76°C. Did Aida64 stress test for 5hrs and system was stable with no error, average temperature during stress test was 85°C on 100% CPU workload. Overall, 12°C decrease in CPU temperature following step 2. Thanks dude. Subscribed.
Your welcome man! Good results! Especially being in a higher ambient area. Your system would be in mid 60s in my area so that's incredible! And you are welcome! Welcome to the community! Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
Hey man! Do you have a spare card around to use while you wait? It looks like big Navi is supposed to come out end of then year and we don’t even know if it’ll be any good (rumors say it will but we don’t know for sure) Also thanks :)
This could be a good option for you but keep in mind not all chips will be able to run it at that voltage. You'll have to mess around with it to see how it does for you. In any case these are good guidelines.
You got my sub! I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and Hyper EVO 212 Black Edition. I settled at 4.0GHz and 1,2V. Got the score around 3550 and temps peaked on 63C now instead of 77C on stock settings (ambient temps at 19-20C). Much thanks dude!
I have a node 202 case and ryzen 5 3600. I was getting 90+ degrees whilst gaming. I have just turned off cpu boost in the bios, locking it to 3.6ghz instead of 4.2ghz and I’m now getting temps of 55!! Absolutely mental reduction, and no ones mentioned it. No FPS decrease either!
That's an easy way of decreasing temps haha. You do lose some performance overall, but if you don't mind or don't notice it in games then it's no big deal! Glad to see you improved your temps =)
@@LehmonMedia I have a question about R3 3300X. Since it is a highly factory overclocked chip and runs hotter, I want to know how much we can do the undervolting with stock speeds along with temperatures?
You are welcome! I'm glad it helped! Since your temps were hitting 101C I imagine you live in a high ambient temperature area. With that said, I would recommend you invest in something like the Hyper 212 Black Edition as well as do this method to allow you to get more out of your chip. If you don't live in a high ambient temp area, try reseating your CPU cooler... 101C is way high for the stock cooler if your ambient temp is around 23C
@@qcenn Absolutely! Just a suggestion ofc too. I just noticed how hot your system was getting before so I assumed you had like 30C ambient temps and unfortunately with those ambient temps you can only do sooooo much without the better cooling you know? 70C is perfectly safe and honestly you don't really need a cooler with those temps, it just would be helpful is all.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, I recently upgraded from Wraith Prism cooler on Ryzen 5 3600 (stock) cuz of 87C stress test temps to Noctua NH-D15 (reviewed as equal to high end AIO) and my temps are just the same ! This is not my first build and tried reinstalling this cooler several times everytime with new Arctic MX4 (spread across CPU or dot or X) and while Idle it is 46-65 C and under CPU-Z stress bench it hits 87C while Noctua fan spins at 100%. Like have no clue at all what could be wrong but used to have FX8350 at 4,5Ghz with much more TDP paired with basic range air cooler Gelid Tranquillo 7 and temps were like 35-70 C....Please help.
@@Ruthless23fly sounds like a mounting pressure issue. I’ve used coolers a lot less effective and they’ve done much better than that in the 3600 without using these two methods Also you can’t compare CPUs from one gen to another. Especially a 8000 series fx chip. Different architectures different processes make them and so different temps. Like apples to oranges kind of comparison haha.
Hi! I've got a 3600 just a week ago. This video is a right on time! So the ambient temperature is around 30 degrees celsius (June in Pakistan). Just installed an H55 Liquid Cooler. Getting an idle temperature of 45 degrees celsius. Gaming temps get to max 80 degrees. All in all, I will definitely try method 1 for sure! Also, are these methods also possible with the Ryzen Master? Does only enabling the 'Precision Boost Overdrive' also help manage temperatures as well? Great content! Thanks for helping the 3600 budget crowd :)
Im glad I posted this at the right time haha and thanks!! =) So Method 1 is NOT possible in Ryzen Master. I found it improved my temps by about 8-10C. You should see similar results I'd imagine (if your board can do a -0.075 offset). Method 2 on the other hand can certainly be done in Ryzen Master. You legit would do the same thing as Method 2 but within the Ryzen Master software. Thinking about it, I should have added that to this video as well haha. Honestly from all the testing I did I'm not even sure what PBO does lol. I know it's supposed to optimize your performance depending on where your temps are at but my systems did NOTHING different when I had PBO enabled or disabled so I'm not sure about that. For you since you live in an area with higher ambient temps, I would probably suggest Method 2. You can try method one to see what it does for you, but since it's a bit hotter in your area getting the lower temps would probably be much better IMO (performance will still be about spot on). I have my testing results in the description box if you need a starting place! Let me know what you end up doing and how it does!
Those temperatures are acceptable. I have an air-cooled 3600 and I live in Florida and we don't run the air conditioner at a very high setting (around 25 celsius). The CPU idles around 40 celsius using the older style copper-bottom Wraith Spire, given those ambient air temperatures.
@@Magnulus76 running a 3700x all core 4.3ghz all the time, stock cooler, idles at around 34C, has never gone over 60C at full bore. Runs fine on a 1.25 vcore stable.
Can I use these method using Ryzen Master so I dont need to boot everytime?Then when I am satisfy with the setting then that the time I change it in the UEFI.
You could also just use Ryzen Master and create a profile 1.2vcore and core clock at 4200MHz,this stopped my temps bouncing around, works well, covers all day 2 day needs, never had a problem in games and dropped my temps by 10-12c, I am using an Gigabyte Auros Master X570 combined with Ryzen 3900x and 32gb Ram
This is certainly also an option! Basically the same as method 2 but without going into the BIOS. I like using Ryzen Master, but I find it wonky at times. Also are you using stock cooler (just curious)
I hope you didnt hear your fans ramping up and down and think "my pc is getting too hot, I need to undervolt" cos the gigabyte 'normal' fan profile is 100% @60c. Thats 10c below my first step up.
You can set fixed frequency for all cores and use offset voltage at same time. So CPU would drop voltage in idle mode (I used this method with Ryzen 2000)
Yeah another comment or stated this and I was testing it out and what I found out is that my voltage actually drops on my tomahawk even at manual voltage settings (well I think I’m still testing it out so I’m not 100%). In any case I think the offset mode is the way to go regardless so I think I’m going to make a quick follow up video telling people to test that out too :). Thanks for the input man!
From my Side: I missed the Information, that Precission Boost Overdrive to Disable it. On my 3950X i see automatically 10-17C better Temps. I would not recommend to se manually Frequencys with Voltages, because you loose your Single Core Speed.
Offset doesn’t work for the 3900X from my understanding. The BIOS overrides it and puts it back to default. What I found worked better was doing override mode and manually setting the voltages to around 1.3V. It seems to boost much higher than stock, seen it hit 4.7Ghz.
Hmm. So you kept your CPU ratio at auto and then used override mode to set 1.3v? I don't know if I've tested that high of manual voltage with cpu ratio set at auto yet. I'll have to take a look! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@LehmonMedia Yeah that's what I did. Sorry just checked BIOS and I have it set to 1.2500v override. Left it unlocked instead of fixing it to a clock. Perfectly stable no crashes dropped about 18c on custom watercooling. With the offset method only dropped about 5c but would see it hover around 65c. Doing the fixed override voltages I run around 50c.
What type of results did you get from doing these methods? Post your results below so that others can learn from YOUR experiences too! Thanks =)
i did method one on my 3600 (im using hyper 212 cooler) and it only lowered my temps by 2 degrees =( but i did gain 35 pts in multicore performance!
travis hylton hmm. What were your stock temps and motherboard? Another user had similar issue where his Asus motherboard wouldn’t do anything to lower the voltages. He has to use method two instead :(
@@LehmonMedia stock temps were 76 degrees and im running b450 tomahawk max. nzxt h510 case, its a hot box =/
travis hylton what we’re you able to offset your voltage by? -0.075v?
Also the chip might be pushing harder since it sense headroom. So although you opened up some temp range it might be reutilizing it to give you more performance. You might want to track your before average frequency and after average frequency. Method 2 will certainly give you better temp results across the board if you are comfortable with that. But you could always modify your fan curve to help improve noise levels too
@@LehmonMedia yea, i just done that first since you stated it was stable, didnt try to go any further
Hold LEFT SHIFT while selecting the RESTART will take you to the "Choose an option" screen.
Good information! Honestly didn't even know about this haha. I typically just smash delete sooooo I never searched for other ways to enter the BIOS haha.
@@LehmonMedia its not bios. its win10 boot options
Anatolij Sergejev although your statement is true I meant that it can take you to the screen that leads you to the BIOS (like in method 2 haha)
@@LehmonMedia i got that after I watched the video.
before that I thought that you are disinformated
Legend.
Fyi you can hold shift before clicking the restart button. That will bring up recovery options to restart into the bios.
Thanks for this comment. I actually learned this a few days ago from another viewer haha. It’s nice to see you guys adding to the value of the video :). Never even knew about that until I saw the other comment too! I get to learn something new every day haha
@@LehmonMedia thats what its all about my friend. I learnt that from TH-cam a while back but yeah use it alot now
@@TheCuttz1984 for sure!
And yeah its actually super nice. My test bench loads so fast that often times I miss the splash screen to jump in the BIOS so this is def useful lol
One of the best videos about vcore offset that i saw until now, thank you
You are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!
One day you will see this channel get 100k instantly out of the blue. Keep it up man
Thanks! This means a lot to me. I'm excited for the day we blow up haha. I have a lot planned for this channel and am excited to see where we go hahah.
You can get advanced startup by simply holding shift while clicking restart from atart
Thanks for this comment. I didn't know this before I posted the video but I had a few nice viewers (such as yourself) inform me of this!
I dont care about losing a frame or two, I care about cpu not being 80 degrees idle.
Yes YES YES this is true omg thanks !
@Sabol Anton did you guys use this method in the video and did it work for you?
@Sabol Anton 84C isn’t even bad man. As long as you’re not very close to the max limit then you’re fine. And considering it’s cinebench, that’s a pretty good max temp. Mine was 86C when I undervolted 0.05 volts, so I decided to just set my Ryzen cpu to eco mode. I didn’t lose too much performance, and I got 76C as my max limit in cinebench multi core. I’d say to do that if undervolting isn’t working for you.
My Ryzen 3600, combined with its stock cooler and MSI B450 A Pro motherboard, was remarkably tolerant to undervolting, and was able to be stable at an offset of -0.125 V. This dropped my peak Cinebench R20 temperature by about 10 degrees, and oddly increased my Cinebench scores a tiny bit. My procedure and results are as follows:
No offset: 3514 multi/479 single, peak temp 87.8 C
-.05 V: 3501 multi/477 single, peak temp 83.8 C
-.0625 V: 3515 multi/477 single, peak temp 82.8 C
-.075 V: 3515 multi/480 single, peak temp 81.4 C
-.0875 V: 3522 multi/481 single, peak temp 80.5 C
-.100 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.9 C
-.1125 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.8 C
-.125 V: 3540 multi/483 single, peak temp 77.5 C .... but later crashed
-.1375 V: crashed to blue screen during Cinebench
However, I noticed in HWiNFO that my peak core frequencies were reduced by about 25 MHz across all cores from this undervolt. I’m guessing that in order to achieve those peak boosts of 4150 to 4200 MHz, my CPU required a burst of 1.475 V, and my manual offset limited this to 1.35 V. Nevertheless, this undervolting project was fruitful since I am getting the same performance but with lower temperature. I was also able to run through free PCMark10 software with my -.1125 V undervolt without crashing or performance loss.
With regard to manually setting the voltage and frequency, this is something I also experimented with recently, but later decided to undo those changes due to fear of degrading my chip. This was due to a recent video at th-cam.com/video/tXV09dF79Kw/w-d-xo.html.
My comment on that video was as follows:
“Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages:
4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C
4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C
4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C
Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better performance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler. I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.”
These are great results. I might have another offset method coming in the future that might help your temps even more =) Someone made a comment on this video with some insightful information so I'm testing some stuff to see if it works!! So stay tuned for part 2 perhaps haha.
Thanks man, my 3600 gets upto 90 celcius when gaming and has also hit 💯 s a couple time
@@straightdot is your fan on properly? my cpu was doing that, the clip needs to be latched all the way.
it might feel like you are breaking the lever but it will clip in place.
@@holisticfern i have the fan with screws, not clip one. Anyway i have bought an aftermarket cooler and the temps are now 30-35 C lesser
Thank you so much, funny how easy it was when someone explains to those like that didn't know too much about it. I also have a tomahawk max and a r5 3600x. With 0.0600 V I got about a drop from 74C to 65C which made me really happy. Cinebench was the same. No noticeable difference in games either. You rock man thanks again. You got a subscriber.
I’m glad I was able to help and got some pretty solid results!! Welcome to the community!
@@LehmonMedia So would 0.06v be a good/standard under volt to have set on the 3600x? Have couple pc's but we do use them a bit so just don't really have enough time to run all the test and repeat unfortunately. I do have a 360 aio.. but would still apppreciate the cooler cpu temps. :D
hi oxidhian, is 74c in idle time?? if not what is the temp while idle time.
You can restart into uefi bios by holding shift and pressing restart in normal area. Shortcut to the pc setting method
Man, finally I found one guy that was capable to explain the way to do Under-volt. Congratulation! Cheers!
Thanks :)
Is it an under volt or is it just that the board manufactures are just stock setting the voltages to high?
Dude Thank you!!
Went from 4868 / 83c to 4939 / 74c with a -0.1500 v offset, -0.1750 wouldnt let me boot into windows.
3800x w/wraith prism
Antonio Vargas glad this helped :). Let me know if you have any questions!
Niiiice! I got worried when seeing 88°C while playing far cry 4 and borderlands 3. I set the voltage to 1.25 and multiplier to 40. Running at constant 60°C now with the stock cooler. Thank you so much man!
Kevin Knoll your welcome! Make sure you do some stress testing to ensure it’s stable :) but overall sounds like you got some great results!
Mines been going from 82-91 so I stopped using my computer for a little bit just cuz I didnt want to damage my new cpu will try this now. I will update you
Thank you.. I used the second method and i am able to reduce the CPU temp from 94 to 77 (max) on cinebench R20..also the benchmark result improved from 3518 to 3575.
Changes I did:
CPU speed : Increased to 4 Ghz from default 3.6 Ghz
CPU voltage: Set to 1.120V
My setup:
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk max
2X8Gb G.skill 3200mhz RAM
RX580 graphics
CPU stock cooler ( wraith stealth)
Awesome man! I'm glad it helped you. If you notice any instability don't be afraid to increase voltage a tad. Some systems need it hah.
ALL STOCK: oc to 4.1, voltage 1.15, during Cinebench temperature down from max 92 to max 83, score increased from 3534 to 3678. I want to say THANK YOU a lot to take away my OCD to always watching at temperature during game time. Now average temperature during game 60-70, down from 75-90, thanks again!
zangorajura glad this helped!!! :) let me know if you have any additional questions
Great Video. Got my temperatures down by 17°C and got a even better score in Cinebench. Keep up the good work. :D
Alexander Zernack im glad it helped :). Happy trails and thanks I plan to haha
made a similar video a few months ago, glad to see im not the only one trying to figure out the best way to bring down temps. Great video!!
Hey man! I actually did see your video and it was a really good too! I get a lot of questions about temps so I figured I'd make a video on it.
In fact, I thought it was funny because after I got done writing my script I started doing keyword research (which I typically do before writing my script to make sure it's worth it) and ran into your video. And I was like WHOA... This topic has more interest than I thought and has basically one video specifically on it. And your video had like 40k views on it at the time so I was like the title must be pretty solid...
So I mayyyy have borrowed parts of the title haha.. hope you don't mind 😅
Congrats on 1k btw
@@LehmonMedia Dont mind at all! I love the tech community on youtube and really just love adding to the conversation. We can all learn and grow together. at the end of the day its all about our love of tech. And thanks hope both our channels keep growing!
Totally agree man. The tech community rocks. I try to comment here and there to different videos throughout the community. Meet new creators!
I’m actually really glad you commented here. I was gonna comment on your video but I wasn’t sure how you’d take it that I was making a similar video haha. But you are right we can all learn from each other and continue to grow and help each other grow 👍🏼👍🏼
How about spend the money and get a better cooler. I am blocking this channel and reporting it.
@@rub900 some applications may not have the volume to put a large cooler in it. I found it very informative and interesting that it's possible to shave a fair number of degrees c simply by reducing voltage.
Perhaps I could recommend a nice video of a baby puking or other such "now this" nonsense since I think that would be more enjoyable to your oxygen deprived mind.
Now I understand what Jayztwocents meant when he said “overclocking amd can hurt performance”, you explained the single/multi core performance so much better. Thanks!
Your welcome! Yeah current gen overclocking is kind of odd lol. Means less work for us if you have really good cooling though lol
Jay was referring to overclocking memory/Fclock passed 3733 MHz will have a negative effect on performance. Overclocking your CPU frequency will still give a positive outcome but setting your offset correctly you can overclock all cores to it's known turbo boost.
@@tskraj3190 actually check Gamer nexus, best performance are with fclk to 1900 and memory to 3800mhz and those are my settings, i also gained 20° on load temps bimy son volting my 3600 to 1.16 volt i have all cores at 4200mhs
@@ViperVenoM13 hi bro, could you give me more details on the method you used to make that undervolt and getting 4.2ghz? I'm about to install my 3600x with the freezer esports duo and I doubt I need to touch the cpu ratio since the Temps will be good enough with that cooler
@@jotazrendipia1184 yes if you have a good cooling you can just use PBO with manual value to max .
i mut this values 1.225 core volt and 1.11
i hit 4.4 on two cores sometimes more
i went down to 1833 fclk and 3666 mhz ram
Thank you for this. I did the first one and I am getting 5 degrees less with a ryzen 5 3600. It's not much but it really made a differnce as I am just hovering around 47-58 degrees while browsing and playing Genshin Impact. I'd say the really big difference is the lesser temperature spike that is really common with my cpu
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much, my temps went from 80-85º playing AC: Valhalla to nearly 65º. Quite simple method but yet very effective. Perfect explanation as well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man! Happy gaming!
Was that with the first or second method?
1st or 2nd method?
Due to cooler temps and higher core clocks, i immediately saw a 15-20°C drop at idle, 20-30 in games, and ~10fps increase so far. Impressive stuff, thanks a lot man. I was worried I was gonna have to buy a new cpu cooler!
Previously, I was getting up to 85-105°C in games. I was getting really worried
Thanks for sharing! Glad it helped!
Randomly stumbled upon this video,I guess it got recommened since I was doing reasearch on this same exact topic couple of weeks ago. Quality is for sure up there with the big channels and I got really surprised when I noticed you replied to every single comment so I decided to give you a like and subscribe.
Haha. Thanks man! Welcome to the community and if there’s anything you’d like to see let me know. I have a long list at this point but I try to cover many topics that you guys have questions on haha :)
And I certainly try to answer as much as I can. I won’t lie the last month has been VERY difficult to keep up haha. Buttt I do my best :)
Very underrated channel. This is highly impressive video on voltage tinkering.
Thanks man :). Much appreciated
Fiy: you can also shift-press restart to get into the menu for going into the bios
This is the only video of yours that I've ever watched. Based on this video alone, I've subscribed to your channel. BRAVO!
Interestingly, with my Ryzen 7 2700X system, before seeing your video, I pretty much tried both of your approaches. I settled on approach 2. In the multi-week (spare time) experimentation, I learned something quite interesting. Voltage dramatically impacts power draw and temperatures. Load dramatically impacts power and temperatures. Clock speed - not so much. ... Takeaway-I can run reasonably high clock speeds yet power and temps stay quite moderate except under load.
With my water cooled 2700X, I ultimately settled on a 4.0 GHz clock speed and a 1.18125 voltage. So far those settings have made my computer COMPLETELY stable. At idle, power consumption vacillates between 9.5 and 14 watts. With a stock configuration, power draw vacillated between 14 and 20 watts. (I WAS SHOCKED.)
SHOCKER 2: In stock configuration, a Handbrake load resulted in about a 130 watt draw, an average core clock speed of about 3.95 GHz and maximum temps of about 67 degrees C. Compared to stock my under-volt-overclock runs were just over one percent faster with approximately a 35 watt lower power draw and high core temps about 11 degrees C cooler. Who said there's no free lunch? I got two full sized free lunches plus an appetizer.
Side note: The most intensive load I ever expose my computer to is Handbrake. I don't care whether or not AIDA 64 or Prime 95 would blue screen my computer; I never run them. All my testing was done with Handbrake. For me, qualifying AIDA 64 or Prime 95 stability is unnecessary and would probably have resulted in me running a slightly higher static voltage.
Good luck all.
Thanks man =)
And I love your thorough testing haha. I totally agree with you on the fact AIDA64/P95 are kind of unnecessary. As long as your system is 100% stable in the applications you use then you are solid IMO
The reason I mostly recommend those things in my video is because most new users need it to be 100% and the reason I say this is, they don't know how a blue screen feels haha. Your first ever blue screen and your heart drops into your stomach and you think your PC blew up when in reality it's fine lol. It's even worse if you are in the middle of a game or something. You'd probably be surprised at how many times my buddies have called or texted me freaking out after a blue screen lol.
And also thats why I love undervolting. Save yourself heat and power usage while gaining a bit of performance most of the time =)
But could it handle prime 95?
Great video!
I had heard that AMD runs hot so I was expecting high temps. My air-cooled 3950x build was 60 degrees C at idle. Adding another pwm case fan did not help. I have an additional CPU cooler fan in the wings. This is a video editing machine. ASUS x570 BIOS is set to defaults or AUTO. (I wanted nothing to do with overclocking).
Temps were starting to peak higher now that spring is here and the room has higher ambient temps.
I stumbled upon an article to lower the voltage. Turns out the default/AUTO voltage is 1.4+. The article was about the offset method. I set the BIOS to offset negative by an "AUTO" amount. I didn't know what a good offset was because "every pc is different". Also as I said, I knew about overclocking but nothing about "best practices". Anyway, whatever "AUTO" means, it resulted in 20 degree drop at idle and peaks have been lower. (I have to be vague because I am observing real world temps and work loads which are not repeatable easily)
All the content I've read/viewed has said that 1.4 is a ridiculously high voltage that is (probably) used to ensure that there won't be undervoltage instability.
So now I find I need/want to know what is happening in the BIOS/chip.
This video is one of the better video as it is easily understood and do-able.
Thanks
Your video quality gets better and better.
Thanks! I appreciate the kind comment!
Best guide I’ve ever seen to lowering temps simplified. You helped me shed 25 degrees Celsius, while performing better according to cinabench by 250 points
Thanks man! I’m glad it helped you :)
Omg thx it worked verry well did second method perfect genius idea n also i gaind bit more performance on it (ryzen5)
@@ilbeygabrieldinler7529 Im so glad it helped =) Please let me know if you end up having any questions!
@@LehmonMedia thx so much it works verry stable ım using stock ryzen 3000 cooler even with that cooler its stable also gained extra perfomance ı got higher scores on bench mark test
has this still worked well/ been good for you with the lower voltages ect. knowing that would be amazing
Man, just watched the video and read a bunch of comments and you answer almost every one of them (including the same question over and over) that's really impressive; taking time to answer, that makes you a great person. Thanks for the tips, I'll turn down a little the temps on my 3600 which reaches 80C on some games with stock cooler, not that much of a enthusiast but want to keep lower temps.
Thanks for the compliment but I am just a normal guy trying to help out haha. My goal is to help answer as many questions as I can so you guys can enjoy PCs as much as I do lol!
I hope that you get some solid results with the stock cooler and if you have any questions feel free to let me know!
Sweet! Great video. Thanks for including the results in the description 👍🏼
Your welcome and I’m glad it helped!! :)
I built my first rig two months ago and noticed this too. You can get rid of tradeoff too, if you overclock further. I have a 4,25GHz overclock at 1,20V stable. I use a coolermaster Hyper212 though. I noticed that the cheapest way to cool the system more effectively, is to have more airflow in the room, and having a PC Case that lets much air through (or put some air coolers for 5€ in there). In regular use I don't get more than 70C (doing data analysis).
I agree with that. Having better ambient and better airflow is a great idea!
And you are certainly right. If you clock it higher it does remove the single core disadvantage. I'm shocked you got 1.2v stable at 4.25GHz on the 3600. That's pretty good. You ran Prime95/AIDA64 & R20 stress test for a while to confirm stable?
Thank you so much. I had around 80 degrees playing forza 7 with only 20% usage. Stock cooler on 100%. I changed as you said to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and now I have around 55 to 60 degrees even though the cooler runs at around half the speed now. Performance feels the same as before :D
Thank you for this video. I recently spent 1300$ on a PC and was upset that I couldn't play a lot of the games I love without frying my PC. I set my stuff to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and It lowered my temps by 20c ! Thank you very much because now I don't have to spend a bunch of money on a cooler and I can enjoy more games 😁 subbed!
I'm glad it helped!!! If you have any questions let me know =) Happy gaming my friend!
did you do this using amd master?? im having the same issue..im a first time pc builder/ user.
@@vansiire no
Advanced startup can also be obtained by holding SHIFT & clicking on restart. It's that easy.
For the third method I think to overclock and under volt, if you have Ryzen master you can do it though there instead of bios. So you don’t gotta jump forward and back!
Yeah I like the idea of messing around with it in Ryzen master and then using the settings in the BIOS. I certainly should have mentioned you could do it on ryzen master too!
I set my Ryzen 5 3600 (stock cooler) to 4,000mhz and 1.15v. It's stable and dropped my idle CPU temps from 60c to 45c
edit: 3,900mhz to 1.18 volts is stable for me too (stock cooler) for a more modest overclock.
Great video man, great production quality feel! Stumbled on you because I’m doing my first Ryzen 3000 build and was really shocked to see the thermals I am getting over the past Ryzen builds I’ve done.
Yeah thermals are certainly up there haha. The annoying part is when it boosts and temps spike up causing all the fans to ramp up lol
And thanks man I appreciate it :)
I'd like to note that single threaded tasks are few and far between. Most games released in the past few years are multithreaded and as soon as you start using more than 1 core, you lose the extra single core boosts.
The Slightly Hilly Rider this is true and that’s why this method is effective 👍🏼👍🏼😁
This video saved my life! My Ryzen 5 3600 was shooting up to around 65°-72° in the middle of a game, which was the hottest I’ve seen it get. I ended up using Ryzen master cause I didn’t wanna figure out the bios settings, but now it’s down to low 40s-50s while gaming which is the lowest I’ve seen. I ended up clocking it at 4100mhz & 1.15v.
The idle also went from around 45° to mid-low 30s° getting higher scores on cinebench too. I thought my AIO was failing but I guess not. Thing runs ice cold now & haven’t seen much of a performance drop.
I'm sure it didn't save your life, but I'm glad it helepd haha =)
You can get a bit faster into your bios if you hold shift when you click restart on menu . You will end up in same place
Yeah haha. I learned this from a few other viewers. Never knew that until then and that's the best part of TH-cam. You guys learn some stuff and so do I =) It's always awesome to learn new stuff.
I thought this was clickbait but oh my oh my it actually works. I was surprise by how it went from 95* c to 70* c. Previously, at idle it would be around 78* c. Now, idle is at around 50 - 55* c
is 50 - 60 degrees normal at idle for 3600?
@@KobeBryantt237 yes
hey i also Have ryzen 7 3700x with msi 240r aio and my idle temp usually between 41-55 and At full load its max to 85° at 4ghz!!
Is it normal or just fine?
Also Its on 1.26 volts!!
@@hritik7080 240 aio and 85 degree at 4ghz lol.. When Gaming It barely Reach 70 degree with 4.1ghz
Cooler noctua nh 15
While Benchmarking it shouldnt go above 80 degrer either...
However if 1.3volt or plus
While benchmarking it should reach 85 degree maybe..
I m Using Arctic Mx 4 paste n Noctua nh1 paste...on Cpu
U should Replace paste every 1 year or 10 months
@@AgoxGaming Bro i just build this pc few days ago but i don't know how to Fix this & i know my Aio is good in cooling but don't know how to solve this problem:-(
Also Its on 1.26 volts at full load
Found this video on my home screen. I am going to give it a go on my 3900x. I've been wanting to tame it a bit. Thanks man I am subscribed and looking forward to more quality content!
Thanks man and I hope you get solid results! If there's anything you have questions on or want to see let me know! =)
@@LehmonMedia I really appreciate that 🙏
@@LehmonMedia so I wanted to report with a -.1 offset (and also fixing DRAM voltage) CPU clocks are 4375 in Farcry 5 as I writing this and the Cinebench went up about 175 points on MT. And temps went doen about 7 C. Stoked thanks again awsome bday present lol!
@@EricHostile change cpu voltage from 1.5 to 1.35 = profit
@@basswolf2331 I gave that a try and it tanked my performance. My CPU at load is pulling about 1.4ish with the offset so I think that is the sweet spot for my chip. I was thinking the same thing tho, was kind of surprised how much it hurt my CB score and how low the clocks went down at 1.35 v override
Hey, you really helped me. I were getting 75°C while playing with only a 45% CPU usage. Now i set my r5 3600 at 1.35V and 4.1 GHz and i'm getting 61°C while playing and 72°C at 100%
In glad I was able to help :) happy trails and feel to let me know if you have any more questions!
Hy. Interested,i have the same settings ryzen r5 3600 1,35v 4,1ghz 100% 79-80 C, playing 72C maximum hard game,lighter about 66C.
@@laszlobedo929 Do you have any questions? Depending on your ambient temps that might be pretty decent results. I think you should be able to push that voltage lower (depending on your motherboard) though.
May i know which method did you used? Is it the first method which is offset?
@@LehmonMedia I set this in ryzen master,doesnt in my motherboard (Msi b450 Gaming plus max),i have Zalmann z9 neo case with 5 12cm fans,and Alpenfön Broken Eco Advanced, i bought for the cpu coller a second fan (Arctic bionix P120 ACFAN00116A), just a little strange the same settings and it is looks hot.
I have ryzen 5 3600x
What I did is turning off core boost performance from my bios settings and my CPU core clock will be at 3800ghz all the time , temps are below 55c even at gaming
I will keep it that way until I get water cooler
This is basically equivalent to the methods here so I'm happy to see your results are solid! I will say a cooler such as the Hyper 212 Black Edition will likely be good enough to keep your chip temps in check while at stock settings. At least it is for my 3600.
VonTech
Thanks, I will consider your advice
There's no need to keep switching bios settings between tweaks. Just lower your voltage on Ryzen Master. Once you find your stable settings, do it on bios. It's much easier this way. I did find my sweet spot on 4.2 all core with 1.15v. I guess silicon gods are with me this time. Once in a lifetime...
This is certainly great feedback. I didn't even think about this when I made the video but it is a great point! Thanks and congrats on the great chip haha =)
is this work fine ??
and r u preety sure processor not damage if u give him undervolt 1.15??
My spot is on 1.25volts at 4.2ghz.it crashed on 1.1v at 4.2ghz benching on cinebench
@@robinmagtoto646 so now what is ur temp on idle or on cpuz stress test
well I've been using this setting for 3 weeks and so far so good. I did some heavy benchmarks such as cinebench, ocdt, aida64 and playing cod warzone. Its working fine.
Awesome video man, helped me a lot. Really appreciate it 👍🏽 I also have a R5 3600, I used the first method and dropped my avg cpu temp by 14 degrees Celsius
Thanks man! I'm glad you found the video helpful and got good results!
I did the 1st method offset on my 3700x and i got a roughly 1 Celcius lower temperature (75C to 74C) with a -0.1V offset lol. Although my cinebench score actually did improve a tiny bit, so ill probably just keep it at that. If anyone is wondering, i prefer not to do the 2nd overclock method because ive noticed that PBO in the past has caused my games to crash, i didnt want to bother with that risk. My max cinebnech stress temp is only 75C anyway.
Yeah the first method is really YMMV because of the boosting algorithm. Sometimes you save some, other times it just pushes your chip to higher boost clock speed which doesn’t help with temps. In any case your temps aren’t bad anyways so you really don’t need to do anything if you didn’t want. Also PBO isn’t used in either method. It’s left at auto which is equivalent (from what I can tell) as off
@@LehmonMedia Yea i know PBO isnt technically used but PBO is also an overlock which has caused a lot of trouble for me. I also game almost exclusively anyway so i dont really care about productivity scores but more so single core scores if anything (for games).
I can see you needing single core. I always recommend playing games at stock as well as with a manual clock/undervolt and see what the average drop is (if any). Make sure to do multiple tests to get a good idea too. I’ve found a lot of games wont see much of a fps drop at all and that’s with my 3900x at 4GHz. It’s always going to be up to you and that’s why building PCs and tinkering is so powerful. You get to customize your experience which is boss haha
Isn't it easier to do all the undervolting with the Ryzen Master then copy paste those values to the bios ?
Yeah that’s a good idea 👍🏼. Help you test stuff out and go from there. I like it
I would say not on that. I did my testing that way but it still force's a restart every time you change voltages so you might as well just do it in the bios.
@@viodfirion how do you test temps in the bios ?
@@hugopolo-lecoffredugeek8318 you can't. You still need to boot into your OS to test. But either way using ryzen master or bios to set you voltage you have to reboot.
i have ryzen 5 3400g on msi a320m-a pro max
i think i had thermal throttling on low temperature
does anyone have a solution please ?
Probably VRM throttling then. I don't know much about that board but A320 boards are the bottom of the barrel sort of speak so I could see that happening.
When I saw title I immediately thought undervolt
AMD products in general are overvolted so even less stable parts function as they should. My R9 Fury could undervolt quite a lot without any loss to performance. Some users saw drops in power consumption of 60w, that's nearly 22% less power drawn.
Hahahah. Yeahhhhh it works haha. I just wish they would allow you to use the boosting feature with a overridden voltage. I mean I know you can always get a better CPU cooler too, but even then why not improve your temps even more if you can you know?
has this still worked well/ been good for you with the lower voltages ect. knowing that would be amazing
I have been running my 3900x for a while using this and it has worked very well. It's been quite a while since I set it up.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, what's your 3900x setting? I also have 3900x but your video was using 3600. I want to try it to my PC.
I can totally relate to everything you've said. Does using 4K res increases temps on the CPU and GPU compared to using 1080 res monitor?
4K may push your GPU a little harder depending on what you are doing which will increase temps on your system. In general though you shouldn't see higher max temps at 4K than at 1080p
Simple and concise. Great tutorial!
Thanks :). Much appreciated!
I don't exactly understand all these results people are finding with undervolting. With my 3600 i set a fixed voltage at 1.2 and set the offset speed to 4200mhz and so far i am receiving better temperatures and a higher cinebench score than when i left everything stock or used PBO.
I am firmly in the camp of the override/fixed multiplier undervolt - offsets can be stable at full load, but fail at partial load, and there's no way to test this. You just have to wait for the crash.
Override mode covers all scenarios - if it's stable with all-core, it'll be stable with single-thread.
Just make sure you run your VRM frequencies as high as safely possible (helps with voltage stability), and use MODERATE loadline calibration - enough to give SOME droop when all the cores are loaded (which is why it's crash-proof - single-threaded workloads get very slightly higher volts than multi-threaded.)
I will let BIOS handles everything and i just put ETS-T50 bang for buck heatsink. 4GHZ 65°C max p95 for 30 minutes
3700x 4.3ghz all core all the time, stock cooler, never gets over 60C.
@@michaelkeudel8770 How? What voltage? I have same ryzen 75C when downloading game on steam. Stock cooler and good airflow case.
@@conter888 Vcore is set at 1.25 volts. Also before installing the cooler I scraped off the thermal pad, lapped the plate on the cooler, and used artic silver. Other then that, got one front 120mm intake fan, 120mn exhaust fan, and a 80mm on the side cover to pull air out.
@@michaelkeudel8770 Thank you, I will try.
@@michaelkeudel8770 what motherboard?
Thanks very helpful - really appreciate you going the BIOS route not playing with the Ryzen master app as I multiboot OS's and I need my changes not to be limited to just windows performance. cheers
Julian Morgan your welcome! Hope it helps a ton! :)
Wow! It literally lower down my cpu temps! Good job!
I'm glad it helped!
Used the method 2, it lower down my temps from 88°c to 74°c. CinebenchR20 score from 3400 to 3500.
Mark Alcantara oh nice! Great 14C drop! You just be stoked haha :)
The best way I've found to do overclocks is not to use static voltages. Use Offset voltages still. Then your voltages will still drop significantly while the CPU is idle, thus giving you even better idle temperatures and chip lifespan. With my Ryzen 3900x I am able to get a stable OC of 4.2ghz all-core with only 1.14v and with a Level 3 LLC I only dip to 1.12v under 100% load. Idle temps around 35C and voltages drop to 0.3v. Full load temps only hit around 70-73C. But you have to make sure to also force Global C-States on with the Ryzen chips or else the voltage won't drop at idle.
I too like to use offset voltages when available unfortunately this doesn't work for all motherboards. I have worked with motherboards where you are completely right and the voltage drops if you use offset mode but not if you use manual. I have also used motherboards that no matter what you do, the voltage drops while idling. Also most programs (besides Ryzen Master), won't even show it. In any case yeah if you have those things accessible I think you certainly have a good point.
Also just as an FYI chip lifespan is more or less completely determined on CPU temp. This article may be old but it still holds true: www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/723980-Truth-about-CPU-degradation
Instead of having to switch back and forth between windows and bios to test different settings, you can use AMD Ryzen Master to set the voltage and cpu clock speed directly in windows. Then once you find the best settings set them in the bios
This is certainly something you can do 100%. The only problem I found with it is sometimes you'll find your RM settings unstable bc booting typically requires more voltage than when you are actually at the desktop. So I've seen systems that look to be stable at the desktop using RM and then once you switch it in the BIOS it's unstable.
Again great method to get a rough estimate though =).
So, after watching it twice, I'm going to try it today.
Have already set up the Baseline.
Also going to try lowering the PPT.
Do you have any suggestions for that?
Ankur Kaushik some people claim it helps. I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with PPT. Mostly losing performance due to it with only decent temp drops. I’m not sure though. I’ve only tested it on like 5 to 10 different boards with the 3600, 3700x, and 3900x so YMMV
I have a b450m steel legend mobo and there is no offset option so do I just lower my voltage and set the frequency at what Is stable?
Basically that's what you would do. You'll have to follow the second method in your case.
I have a steel legend too. The bios has it. It's under dram options. It has the image of a file.
I subscribed to him so i can say I’m an og when he hits 1 mil
Hahahha. Thanks man I appreciate it :). Screenshotting this!
Yeet
I don't see any offset settings in ASRock B450m Steel Legend. I have an Advanced tab, and an AMD Overclocking tab, but I don't see anything about Offset or any option that let's me change those values.
There is a section under OC Tweaker called "CPU Frequency and Voltage (VID) Change"
The Frequency is there to be change. Towards the bottom of OC Tweaker you should see the VCore set to auto which you should be able to change to fixed mode or offset mode. Let me know if that helps. The only ASRock board I have is the B550M Pro4 so the BIOS could be a bit different.
On my Ryzen 3900x I ended up dropping vcore a bit, and then with the lower voltage was able to maintain a slight overclock to 4ghz on all cores and still keeping temps within a good range.
Dude how can I thank you
I ran cinebench and was at 95 degrees at 3.95
But now I am at 4 with 1.15 voltes with only 62 degrees
My cpu is ryzen 5 3600
Eshaan Vasanthakumar seeing your results is a good enough thank you for me :). If you have any friends with a ryzen 3000 series chip feel free to share it to them haha. Thanks buddy and happy gaming’
@@LehmonMedia love your support even after few months. I am from India and it is kind of difficult to find this info there ase everyone is a intel fanboy so I will propagate this as much as possible
Hi. I am from India too. I recently got a R5 3600 CPU and found out that temps go around 75 degrees for some games even on medium settings. Let's say I undervolt the CPU and keep its clock speed as what you've done to lower the temperature, will it deteriorate the CPU over time quickly or further increase its longevity??
@@khunii2188 se like that is the same what happened to me but I undervolting to 1.1 volts and then boosted it to 4gzh. It has reduced the tems for high 70s to hight 50s while gaming and then while cinebench r20 it was at hight 90s and now at low 70s. Undervolting will increase life span as it runs at lower tems and I only over clocked it a little as there was no big diffrebce forn 3.95 volts to 4.gzh
@@eshaan1515 Thanks man. Did you do it from the BIOS or from Ryzen Master??
Couldn't get it but override mode wasn't the solution for me. It changed nothing but doing ofset method my cpu runs faster and -22 cooler even with the -0.500 settings. that was amazing. thx :)
Awesome! I’m glad you were able to save some temps with method one!
the undervolt helped me a lot.
Glad it helped =)
hey i got problem with my temp. i use asrock B450 Pro 4 with ryzen 5 3600 with stock AMD cooler. before i reduce the core voltage my temp reach almost to 101°C while normal gaming. and i follow ur step and reduce the voltage to 1.1000 and the clock speed is 4.0 Ghz and now its around 75°C while gaming and 60°C-65°C when idle and for me its still hot. and with my current temp is it affecting my processor long term durability? can u help me with my problem? thanks (and sorry for bad English)
are u replying my comment? i got notification that u replied my comment but nothing here. sorry for that
One thing if your playing just games, especially esport games your don't need all 12 threads. Can turn off SMT and get a better overclock, temps, or lower voltages.
Good advice. I think this comment can help some people only wanting to game with best temps and such.
Thanks!
Finally good explanation.
Юрий Мятлин thanks :)
This guy really points out how helpful offset and override settings are
Thanks :)
Set mine at 4000mzh at 1.1125, stable at the moment
What chip do you have?
By the way. The best way to undervolt ryzen is by its P0 state. This way the cpu will downclock and downvolt itself like in stock settings. But unfortunately not all mobos allow to change cpu P states (my msi b450 tomahawk doesnt)
The method with Vcore overdrive is the worst. This way you lock both frequency and voltage.
So if your mobo doesnt allow you to change Pstates, the only option is to use Vcore voltage + offset. And lock the frequency. Voltage will drop when cpu is idling. Frequency will be always maxed but its only 2Watt difference between stock and OC.
Very good insight man. Im going to dive into this a bit more.
my computer doesn't boot after trying the first method
Try resetting your cmos. Your board must not be able to handle the offset you used
Awesome vid. Wasn't able to use my emulator due to scorching high 90 temps. now it sits at 70-75.
I’m glad I was able to help :). Let me know if you have any questions
This was actually really helpful, thanks heaps. I just recently got the 3700x and x570 ultra my first build and have been stressing about temps.
Schmidty_Fps your welcome! I hope it helped a lot!
Also it is normal for temps to be higher because of PBO. And it leads you to needing powerful cooling. This just helps a bit with that
I got they same setup. Which method did you use?
@@merwinpique I'm using 3700x on msi b550itx board using method 2 with 4.2ghz at 1.2v running all core r23 test my temps dropped from 88C to 74C
Tell me how you have under 600k subs because your channel is the same quality as theirs
Hahah Thanks Nugget! This truly means a lot to me... It takes time to grow and one day we will get there. If my quality ever slips make sure you let me know haha =)
@@LehmonMedia He is right, good quality bro
Craig Walker thabks man much appreciated :)
Went from 75C-85C underload, to 55C underload for my 3700x 👍 My room is finally cool now, thx
Awesome to hear!
Legit got temp down by 7 degrees on multi core benchmark and 11 degrees on single core benchmark also performance increased by 8% . Love it
I tried doing that before this video came out and it didn't help as much so I ended adding 3 more fans to my rig plus a deepcool CPU cooler and now I sit around the 40 to 50s and Max temp is 70
Well I’m sure the fans and cooler will help a lot too. Did you try method two as well? With no luck?
same but with only one cabinet fan and coolermaster hyperx 212. 69-71 degree on max load (while gaming), idling at around 44. AT 4.2ghz
Prateek Bagri that’s not too bad for 4.2GHz. Be careful with voltage though. Not sure where you landed but I don’t recommend being over 1.325-1.35v
If you're afraid on playing around with the BIOS settings, you can still use AMD Ryzen Master software to test things and after you find the ideal settings, apply them on your BIOS. Here's a great video on what I just said: th-cam.com/video/5JTuxMnrqds/w-d-xo.html
Fisnik Sylka this is a good suggestion and a great video 👍🏼
@@LehmonMedia I tried it out and wasn't getting results. Turned out my case airflow was bad and the stock cooler of my AMD Ryzen 5 3600 wasn't enough. After switching to a Cooler Master Hyper H410R RGB and adding another exhaust fan, temps went down quite a lot when tweaking voltage. I'm running 4GHz at 1.1 Volts.
Would you recommend lowering the PPT with the Ryzen Master to lower the temp? I got a 3300X and found out on a video about this particular CPU optimization from Optimum Tech's channel. He said its better to lower the PPT with Ryzen Master rather than undervolting the 3300X in BIOS to lower the temp as it would give instability.
Naofal Nirvana you could. I haven’t tested PPT all that much yet because when I was testing it it was smashing the performance of my 3600. I have new motherboards coming in so I’ll probably be messing around with it when they get in. Give it a shot and see how it does for you :)
i have the same 3300x my tip to you is buy air cooler and have a poaitive air flow set up it.. from my 70-80 degress to 40 - 60
my 3300x get pretty hot with stock cooler, will undervolt it work? or what worked for you guys?
@@reychua7538 Yeah, I think a lot of people here in the comments are suffering from poor case cooling\pressure calibration.
Did some more testing and to be honest 4.2 GHz works with +0.1250 offset but doesn't have enough power to keep all cores running at 4.2GHz, although a good CB score of 5070. Prime95 gets it to it's knees in the end on the blend test. But HWinfo shows 1 core/ 2 threads cannot follow the others in performance. So actually higher voltage is needed.
So after more trying and testing the most stable for me:
CPU - 4Ghz
PBO - Off.
Voltage - auto (not above 1.1330v most of the time)
Room temp: 23°C
CPU temp idle : 35°C
CPU temp CB-r20 : 66°C score 4791
Prime95 smallest FTT temp : 74°C
Prime95 small FFT : 74°C
In game : 54°C
Nice results man! I'm glad you were able to achieve this! And yeah sometimes a few cores do lack in performance. That's why Ryzen Master software actually list out what your best cores are in each CCX
Followed step 2 Ryzen-5 3600 stock cooler, MSI B550 Gaming plus MB, Asus 1660 Super build Xigmatek trident case with 4 RGB fans with approximately 30-35°C room temperature (Im living at Middle East). CinebenchR20 with default settings, score was 3464 multicore and 481 single core, CPU temp peaked at 88°C. Cinebench R20 CPU set to 4Ghz and 1.2V, score was 3438 multicore and 459 single core, CPU temp peaked at 76°C. Did Aida64 stress test for 5hrs and system was stable with no error, average temperature during stress test was 85°C on 100% CPU workload. Overall, 12°C decrease in CPU temperature following step 2. Thanks dude. Subscribed.
Your welcome man! Good results! Especially being in a higher ambient area. Your system would be in mid 60s in my area so that's incredible!
And you are welcome! Welcome to the community! Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
Bro I've got rx 5700 sapphire pulse do you recommend me sell my card and wait for big navi?
Nice content there.
Hey man! Do you have a spare card around to use while you wait? It looks like big Navi is supposed to come out end of then year and we don’t even know if it’ll be any good (rumors say it will but we don’t know for sure)
Also thanks :)
Don’t sell it! Hold onto it. Unless you already got a new one don’t sell it. Massive shortages on GPUs globally
Here is my table on my AMD ryzen 5 3600
MHZ V Temp Score
3600 1.2 90 3528
4000 1.2 80 3526
4000 1.15 77 3549
4000 1.125 74 3560
4000 1.1 74 3536
4100 1.25 93 3640
4100 1.15 74 3637
This could be a good option for you but keep in mind not all chips will be able to run it at that voltage. You'll have to mess around with it to see how it does for you. In any case these are good guidelines.
You got my sub!
I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and Hyper EVO 212 Black Edition.
I settled at 4.0GHz and 1,2V. Got the score around 3550 and temps peaked on 63C now instead of 77C on stock settings (ambient temps at 19-20C). Much thanks dude!
Awesome to hear man! I'm glad you got some solid results!
Welcome to the community! Discord coming soon!! =)
I have a node 202 case and ryzen 5 3600. I was getting 90+ degrees whilst gaming. I have just turned off cpu boost in the bios, locking it to 3.6ghz instead of 4.2ghz and I’m now getting temps of 55!! Absolutely mental reduction, and no ones mentioned it. No FPS decrease either!
That's an easy way of decreasing temps haha. You do lose some performance overall, but if you don't mind or don't notice it in games then it's no big deal!
Glad to see you improved your temps =)
Clear cut and simple explanation. Thank you so much.
Thanks man :). Feel free to let me know if you have any questions
@@LehmonMedia I have a question about R3 3300X. Since it is a highly factory overclocked chip and runs hotter, I want to know how much we can do the undervolting with stock speeds along with temperatures?
thank you so much, i searched up this video when i was on gta and i saw my cpu was 101C! now on gta i get 70C!
You are welcome! I'm glad it helped!
Since your temps were hitting 101C I imagine you live in a high ambient temperature area. With that said, I would recommend you invest in something like the Hyper 212 Black Edition as well as do this method to allow you to get more out of your chip.
If you don't live in a high ambient temp area, try reseating your CPU cooler... 101C is way high for the stock cooler if your ambient temp is around 23C
VonTech yeah i’m gonna order it when i have enough money but this still helps alot
@@qcenn Absolutely! Just a suggestion ofc too. I just noticed how hot your system was getting before so I assumed you had like 30C ambient temps and unfortunately with those ambient temps you can only do sooooo much without the better cooling you know? 70C is perfectly safe and honestly you don't really need a cooler with those temps, it just would be helpful is all.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, I recently upgraded from Wraith Prism cooler on Ryzen 5 3600 (stock) cuz of 87C stress test temps to Noctua NH-D15 (reviewed as equal to high end AIO) and my temps are just the same ! This is not my first build and tried reinstalling this cooler several times everytime with new Arctic MX4 (spread across CPU or dot or X) and while Idle it is 46-65 C and under CPU-Z stress bench it hits 87C while Noctua fan spins at 100%. Like have no clue at all what could be wrong but used to have FX8350 at 4,5Ghz with much more TDP paired with basic range air cooler Gelid Tranquillo 7 and temps were like 35-70 C....Please help.
@@Ruthless23fly sounds like a mounting pressure issue. I’ve used coolers a lot less effective and they’ve done much better than that in the 3600 without using these two methods
Also you can’t compare CPUs from one gen to another. Especially a 8000 series fx chip. Different architectures different processes make them and so different temps. Like apples to oranges kind of comparison haha.
Hi! I've got a 3600 just a week ago. This video is a right on time!
So the ambient temperature is around 30 degrees celsius (June in Pakistan). Just installed an H55 Liquid Cooler. Getting an idle temperature of 45 degrees celsius. Gaming temps get to max 80 degrees.
All in all, I will definitely try method 1 for sure!
Also, are these methods also possible with the Ryzen Master? Does only enabling the 'Precision Boost Overdrive' also help manage temperatures as well?
Great content! Thanks for helping the 3600 budget crowd :)
Im glad I posted this at the right time haha and thanks!! =)
So Method 1 is NOT possible in Ryzen Master. I found it improved my temps by about 8-10C. You should see similar results I'd imagine (if your board can do a -0.075 offset).
Method 2 on the other hand can certainly be done in Ryzen Master. You legit would do the same thing as Method 2 but within the Ryzen Master software. Thinking about it, I should have added that to this video as well haha.
Honestly from all the testing I did I'm not even sure what PBO does lol. I know it's supposed to optimize your performance depending on where your temps are at but my systems did NOTHING different when I had PBO enabled or disabled so I'm not sure about that.
For you since you live in an area with higher ambient temps, I would probably suggest Method 2. You can try method one to see what it does for you, but since it's a bit hotter in your area getting the lower temps would probably be much better IMO (performance will still be about spot on). I have my testing results in the description box if you need a starting place!
Let me know what you end up doing and how it does!
Those temperatures are acceptable.
I have an air-cooled 3600 and I live in Florida and we don't run the air conditioner at a very high setting (around 25 celsius). The CPU idles around 40 celsius using the older style copper-bottom Wraith Spire, given those ambient air temperatures.
@@LehmonMedia Gamers Nexus should have some in depth content explaining PBO criteria and Auto OC
@@Magnulus76 running a 3700x all core 4.3ghz all the time, stock cooler, idles at around 34C, has never gone over 60C at full bore. Runs fine on a 1.25 vcore stable.
Can I use these method using Ryzen Master so I dont need to boot everytime?Then when I am satisfy with the setting then that the time I change it in the UEFI.
Yup. That should work.
You could also just use Ryzen Master and create a profile 1.2vcore and core clock at 4200MHz,this stopped my temps bouncing around, works well, covers all day 2 day needs, never had a problem in games and dropped my temps by 10-12c, I am using an Gigabyte Auros Master X570 combined with Ryzen 3900x and 32gb Ram
This is certainly also an option! Basically the same as method 2 but without going into the BIOS. I like using Ryzen Master, but I find it wonky at times.
Also are you using stock cooler (just curious)
I hope you didnt hear your fans ramping up and down and think "my pc is getting too hot, I need to undervolt" cos the gigabyte 'normal' fan profile is 100% @60c. Thats 10c below my first step up.
You can set fixed frequency for all cores and use offset voltage at same time. So CPU would drop voltage in idle mode (I used this method with Ryzen 2000)
Yeah another comment or stated this and I was testing it out and what I found out is that my voltage actually drops on my tomahawk even at manual voltage settings (well I think I’m still testing it out so I’m not 100%). In any case I think the offset mode is the way to go regardless so I think I’m going to make a quick follow up video telling people to test that out too :). Thanks for the input man!
now i need help on HWInfo it says i have around 60/65°C but on speecy it says 110°C :l
help.
You probably are looking at different sensors. The 110C may be the VRM? What is your motherboard?
8 to 10 celsius is a LOT!
From my Side: I missed the Information, that Precission Boost Overdrive to Disable it. On my 3950X i see automatically 10-17C better Temps. I would not recommend to se manually Frequencys with Voltages, because you loose your Single Core Speed.
Offset doesn’t work for the 3900X from my understanding. The BIOS overrides it and puts it back to default. What I found worked better was doing override mode and manually setting the voltages to around 1.3V. It seems to boost much higher than stock, seen it hit 4.7Ghz.
Hmm. So you kept your CPU ratio at auto and then used override mode to set 1.3v? I don't know if I've tested that high of manual voltage with cpu ratio set at auto yet. I'll have to take a look! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@LehmonMedia Yeah that's what I did. Sorry just checked BIOS and I have it set to 1.2500v override. Left it unlocked instead of fixing it to a clock. Perfectly stable no crashes dropped about 18c on custom watercooling. With the offset method only dropped about 5c but would see it hover around 65c. Doing the fixed override voltages I run around 50c.
Bro you are a life saver, the fans would go to full speed and temp spike to 80c then down to 45. Now it's steady under load.
Glad to hear that =D