You knew we were going to and of course you've let us know you wanted it, so here. Ryan tells us all about his feels and what's up with the movie. Patreon?
Mike Mignola was "minimally involved" in the reboot. He helped with some ideas and offered some advice, but was not involved in design or production and just executive produced it. He was actually far more involved in the Del Toro movies
@@AlphaRookie I read it in several interviews with the man. They just took a bunch of his work, his money, and a couple ideas and basically kicked him to the curb. I have seen videos and interviews with Del Toro where they are discussing how the characters are going to look, designs, interactions, etc. It wasn't as true to the source material, but had more of the creators involvement and a sense of love and care for the property from the people making it. This feels like a big "well fuck you Del Toro, how dare you want creative control and no interference, we can make something better than you can.... we'll basically make "HELLPOOL" and rake in the money!"
Yep this was very much a producer controlled feature (Lawrence Gordon and Lloyd Levin). They even had Neil Marshall's DOP fired as a 'power play', to bait him into doing what they want, and it sort of worked. The absolute shit show of a production is all to see on screen - a disjointed, and poorly made film.
@james paul I never heard him say a negative thing about the Del Toro movies. Only thing I've heard is Del Toro leans more to the fantasy aspect, and the 2019 has more plot elements from the source material. Where did you hear he dislikes them?
Unfortunately i feel like this is the direction a lot of movies are ending up... where directors and actors who get great casting but then half way through filming they're getting thrown into "no, you need to change the script to say..." or "do this instead..." by other higher-ups and that is sad bc it ruins potentially good movies. I'm still going to go see this though.
Neil Marshal didn't know what to do with this movie himself. Lobster Johnson and Luchador Vampire. The two pointless scenes, with two pointless characters, were his ideas. He wanted to have them. Why? God knows why.
Silk Worm I honestly think an HBO Hellboy series with David that’s just a straight adaptation of the books would be great! Less meddling producers and forced comedy, and it can be pretty cool.
@@nastylittlecritter And or some adaptations of more obscure and unknown folk tales. New stuff doesn't need to live in the shadow of the comics. I'd prefer if they dropped the reboot universe, implied that everything we don't see is more or less exactly like those events happened in the comics (by directly telling some) and redesign the makeup to set it apart from the reboot and do the comic look and tone justice. I think the franchise could benefit from distancing itself from the "Legendary AF" "One hell of a Superhero" "R rated gore-real" marketing. You can have a monster-centric horror world with an unkillable protagonist and still work as tried and true horror. A man obligated to a dangerous job simply because he was born for no other business who constantly finds himself outliving his friends and colleagues makes for a really compelling character.
You're a really great reviewer. You can tell you are genuine about your feelings and thoughts and you empathize with the film. I appreciate that. I hate when people just say "oh the movie was garbage." Like... C'mon man. There was a lot of hard work put into it.
No, don't reward stupid reboots and horrible movies with massive studio interference. Teaching the studio that they can't just crap out an indy comic movie will force them to do things right and actually care about the source material like they did with the Crow, Deadpool, and the first two Hellboy movies. Rewarding crap will just get you more crap.
This is the same studio that made the crappy "Conan" reboot, same problems that plagued that one, plagued this one... good concept, stayed truer to the source material, but is following a legend and suffered from horrible villain, choppy editing, and a convoluted and trite story, and a lot of Studio interference.
"stayed truer to the source material," In what source material did Hellboy or Professor Broom ever said the F word? This movie is a disgrace to the source material.
@@MachineFuckingHate Has several storylines and characters from the comic and several story arcs, but yeah other than that this is a fucking mess. I see some of these idiots running around "HOLY SHIT LOBSTER JOHNSON IS IN IT 10/10 MUS SEE!!!!!1!!!11!!!! OMFGBbq!!!
Lol even tho I liked the Conan remake a lot, I know it's not a great story and the editing kinda sucked. The fight scenes were awesome tho and yes I grew up on the originals, but I still liked the remake better. Mainly because bad special effects are harder for me not to notice as an adult.
i can sense the departure of dp . I am 100 % certain that the guy they fired was responsible for those first production photos with David Harbor that looks badass . The difference between them and the final product is night and day !
I just started reading the Hellboy comics. The fist issue of Hellboy explicitly states that Trevor Bruttenholm's last name is pronounced like the word broom.
Sorry, but no. Neil Marshal gets the blame too for this movie being hard to follow. After the news of the movie's troubled production came out, I guess everyone started saying that it was all studio's fault while Marshal wanted to make a great movie. But Mignola just confirmed in his recent interview that two pointless ideas in this movie were from Marshal. Luchador Vampire and Lobster Johnson were Marshal's ideas, and they are pointless to this movie's story. They're just fan service. Those characters and their history in the comics allows you to make an entire movie about them, but you just shoehorn them as cameos for no rhyme or reason. The point of this reboot was to get smaller, wasn't it? Then adapt one of those small, straightforward one-off stories from Hellboy into the movie. Don't shove every big and small story into one giant mess of a movie. This reboot shot itself in the hove.
"The worst you can say is that this was a mediocre movie" No. This is not the worst you can say. The worst you can say is to say what this movie actually was...AWFUL.
There’s some stuff in this movie worth seeing? Especially if you’re a Hellboy fan? And that’s the problem. If you wanna make a successful movie, you don’t make it for Hellboy insiders.
I'd love to hear what you have to say about the video game adaptations of hellboy (I can only think of one right now) but I'd imagine they aren't very good but I clearly don't like hellboy as much as you do so I'd love to see your opinion.
There's three games, dogs of the night/asylum Seeker, the Java game for phones that came out with the golden army and the science of evil, oh and the injustice 2 guest character
I loved this movie. totally biased. Lobster Johnson made it for me. I agree there are lots of problems and agree with a lot of what you said, especially the daddy issues stuff. but I had fun and saw some stuff I never thought would be brought to a screen.
This is actually better than what I thought it was going to be didn’t know that it had such trouble production but I thoroughly love it I give the movie a C+
It's pretty irksome when i hear Rotten Tomatoes get criticized about it's score, and the whiners don't even know how it works so glad you cleared that up. What's also annoying is that the people don't even bother reading the reviews. Most of the critics are not fanboys of Del Toro or Hellboy comics, they are doing their best to be objective about the film and their experience with it. I wanted this movie to be good( and hey maybe I'll enjoy when i stream it) but i am not going to go all the way to theater and throw my money away to watch it, not to mention the expenses of getting there and returning, food, paying for family or date etc on a subpar movie. I rather no Hellboy movies than them churning out cash grabs shitty films.
Thanks for the review. HUGE Hellboy fan and I was let down before even going yesterday and it was EXACTLY as you say here. The design and care put into this movie was evident and I caught myself wondering why the hate was so strong. This movie is a dozen times better and more entertaining than MIB 3, RIPD, Ghostbusters (2016) and a dozen other recent movies somewhat similar. The tone was obviously trying to do an Army of Darkness, tongue- in-cheek thing and got sullied by what I can only imagine as a thousand "Make it like Deadpool/Guardians of the Galaxy!" requests from people who have likely never read Hellboy before. It was certainly odd seeing that tug of war happening on screen but my shock was at how much I was okay with 75% of this movie. Cut out some of the lesser CGI aspects and lose the shitty rock soundtrack cues and this could have been pretty outstanding. I too really got excited when Marshall got hired as I could just see what he might do based upon all his other films. Somehow the talent involved and Harbor's commitment to the role won me over. It shone through the shitty handling of the obviously troubled production. I am certainly buying this on BluRay just to replay certain scenes that stuck with me. The Baba Yaga scene even rivals the creepiness of Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth eye hands scene. I look at this movie as one I will watch often just to appreciate it for what it is and what it does well. Sad they likely won't get to retry with less interference and a more dry, gothic R tone. Get that Netflix series going ASAP!
You are right about Rotten Tomatoes and I often bring it up when people use it to try to compare movies to each other. RT scores are a totally inapproriate tool for that because they give you an impression of what proportion of reviewers liked/disliked it, but not on how good they thought it was. So is a film where 90% of the audience think its fairly good better than a film where 70% of people thought was absolutely excellent but the others didn't care for it at all? Difficult to say, but people who use RT scores will claim that the former is obviously better. It has a higher rating!
I haven't seen it yet but from what I can guess from reading nearly all of the mignaloverse (the hellboy comic universe) you should only need to read the original hellboy run. It's really worth reading even if this movie ends up being terrible. Definitely don't just read Wild Hunt though, it isn't a good starting point and is in fact the end of the original hellboy comics, not including the series after, Hellboy in Hell (which is really good).
Cabe Skywalker I think he was specifically asking what books to read to better understand the movie. I assume the implication was that they didn't want to or aren't able to read the entire original run.
BladePocok Why are 'rush into' and 'catch up' in quotation marks? I didn't say any of that. But yeah. In that case, you're gonna have to read the original Hellboy run.
I started reading the Hellboy comics after I started watching this channel and tiday I watched the movie too. I would say it wasn’t as bad. Definitely not as bad as the reviews in rotten tomatoes are making it out to be. I will admit I’d have liked a version that was true to the comics. But oh well... I’d still say I had a good time. It was good entertainment
"I will admit I’d have liked a version that was true to the comics." Which this movie definitely wasn't. Hellboy doesn't swear in the comics, nor did Professor Broom. Nor were their relationships bitter like this movie portrayed. Nor was the tone of the comics managed like an edgelord power fantasy with violence on the level of Happy Friends. This movie is as accurate to the Hellboy comics as Resident Evil movies were accurate to the games.
EgocentricHead Yes thats what I said in my original comment. I said I’d have preferred a version that is similar to the comics. Which this movie is not. Thats why I consoled myself with an “Oh well” Still its a decent enough movie. Quite entertaining. I’m not comparing this particular movie with the comics at all.
If you weren't a comic fan, never really heard of or seen anything with Hellboy in it, how do you think you would feel about the movie?? A lot of critics/movie-goers aren't Hellboy fans, so pandering to a small demographic (made even smaller by the hard "R" rating) is a sure recipe for disastrous box office numbers. Yes, people who recognize the bit cameos and characters, the easter eggs and storylines used might give this a 5 or 6 out of 10... but the average movie-goer comparing it to Perlman and Del Toro? 2 or 3 out of 10 tops.
I'm gonna trust you, mostly because Hellboy in Mexico is one of my favorite comics ever (maybe it's got something to do with the fact that I'm mexican, but who knows) and I never ever expected to see it adapted on the big screen. Thank you for being the voice of reason on the internet
Just saw it, and I must say. It's not that bad. I really have a low expectation since most comments on the reviews here on youtube(didn't watched them, just read comments). But I was pleasantly surprised. I still haven't read any Hellboy comic so I can't say much. EDIT: oh yeah, the second half of the movie felt really slow. By the way, have you guys seen some of the Alien shorts, and are you planning on reviewing or doing some commentary about them? I particularly like "Specimen" and "Ore" so far.
I still think that Hellboy would work better as a hbo or Netflix series but I still want to see this at some point. Unfortunately it’s between Shazam! and Endgame so I might not be able to get to it in theaters.
Definitely do not see this over those other two! Unfortunately most comics just by virtue of longform storytelling, would make better tv series than films.
Alpha Rookie I just feel the themes and amount of characters and stories in Hellboys universe suits a series on one of those platforms and would fit right in with say, Netflix offering with their marvel shows and now Umbrella Academy but yea I came to the acceptance that I wouldn’t be able to see it in theaters a while ago. I really wanted to be able to support just because it’s Hellboy and had good names behind it but... it’s just out at a bad time. Shazam! Is great tho, seeing your opinion on that would be cool tho I know you’ve usually delved more into the darker more adult themed comics and stuff so no hard feelings if you don’t lol love your content, keep it up.
I like watching your reviews because you say it true. I honestly do hope they come out with a second one, but who knows. They might just say no and move on or they'll actually say you know what let's give it another try for the sake of the #Hellboy fans. I watched it with my friend and girlfriend and we left the theater when it ended (after both post credit scenes) talking about what we liked and disliked. I enjoyed it and thought it could've been better, but it did well for what we got
I can try to find out, but I'm pretty sure it was just labeled Ambient Loop 7. I probably named it that after finding a bunch of random background musics off TH-cam library.
I enjoyed this review and I agree with your opinion. It wasn't the best and it wasn't what I was expecting but as a Hellboy fan it gave me things I've always wanted to see on the big screen.
It's similar to the Batman vs Superman situation. Honestly I'm hoping that Lionsgate will let the director make an extended cut of this film. Which I have a feeling they probably won't do. Maybe there will be deleted scenes.
could you guys do a video covering all/most of the godzilla comic books. i am a big fan of godzilla and would love too see you guys talk about the comics.
I don't follow the channel. I just came across you a few months ago, probably when the first Hellboy trailer came out due to a TH-cam recommendation or something, and I enjoyed listening to you talk about the differences between the films and the comics. I, myself, don't read or care about the comics and enjoyed the Del Toro movies but thought they lacked something, particularly the second one. So, after going to see Hellboy at 11 AM while my daughter was in preschool, I came home and mentioned I'd seen it to others, only to find out it's apparently terrible or something. So I came back to see specifically what you thought and I was expecting to be annoyed by a whining fanboy trashing of the movie, but you were really even-handed about it and I appreciate that. I think I enjoyed it... well, given the press, probably a lot more than most people. Violence, vulgarity, and action are definitely well within my wheelhouse and I thought it was a fun movie, though it definitely felt like far too much was packed in. I didn't hear about the problems and am very disappointed that Marshall was treated so poorly, as I love The Descent and Doomsday. It didn't feel like one of his movies and it definitely needed to be paced out more, but the character and monster designs were great, the action was good, I liked Harbour and the rest of the cast, and I instantly walked out of the movie, looked up who Thomas Haden Church was playing, and decided I needed to see a movie about that character immediately. As a non-fan of Hellboy and Mignola, Lobster Johnson was worth the price of admission for me. But I was definitely satisfied, even if it was too bloated with stuff going on and all sense of nuance trimmed out.
If the production was as bad as it sounds, I doubt well see any kind of directors cut. That being said, of course I would want to see Marshall's cut. I watched Dog Soldiers and The Descent this week. Hes a really talented storyteller.
A lot of this was very 'eh, that's fine.' I didn't think any of it was really offensive, and what of it that I enjoyed I did quite enjoy. A lot of it I found would have been better if they a) corrected the tone (I like swearing but not all characters should have been swearing and b) fleshed out their references a bit better - I would have liked to hear just a reference to the fomorian giant Grom and for Gruagach to have just been a faerie and they definitely should have bloodied up the blood queen (I love the imagery of Nimue standing up from the chest in the comics). Just needed that little, little bit extra.
I just saw it tonight. It was hot, confused, and jumbled garbage. Makes me want to watch the Ron Pearlman version to get the stink off my brain. Gonna see if I can get and read the comics in the next few months. Thanks for the heads up.
The worst thing in Hollywood is a producer. The Producers were feuding with the director. And eventually took over post-production and chopped up the film in the editing room just to spite him. Which is probably why it comes off as so uneven and tonally inconsistent. Apparently Neil Marshall wanted it to be tonally consistent with the comics. But the Producers just wanted it to be more like Deadpool. I'm hoping for a directors cut.
@godzillarex888 I'm not saying all Producers. But most of them are clueless. Even Spielberg screws up sometimes. Producers need to know how and when to be helpful. They need to know when to give the director freedom and when to step up and rein them in. Just read about his relationship as a producer for the Transformers movies. Perfect example.
Just because this movie followed the comics closer than the Del Toro films doesn't mean it was good. The Del Toro films at least had something this film didn't: Heart.
Best review on TH-cam! I actually enjoyed the movie more then Del Toros Hellboy. Del Toros hellboy was so far from the comics if it had been a marvel or dc movie fan would have crucified Del Toro for it. Every time I hear someone compare Hellboy 2019 to Del Toro Hellboy I get a strong urge to back hand the shit outta them
I’m sorry, but if a superhero movie is bad, regardless of whether or not the characters are independently owned...shouldn’t the fans of the series/characters NOT go see it? Hell, some of the negative reviews I’ve seen and heard CAME from fans of Hellboy! Also, how is Millennium Films not sued yet considering the possible interference they had a hand in the film’s final cut?
Jack of All Claws Yes but that means we likely won't get anything better for a long time. It's not good in either case. It's sticking people between a rock and a hard place because supporting and not supporting the movie each come with some shitty consequences
I was loving every second of the movie, i had so much fun watching it, it was so bloody and over the top it was just impossible to not have fun while watching this over the top action gore movie. 10/10 give me more
Watched it last night. I give it a 5 out of 10. The intro was garbage but as soon as you see Hellboy was great up until the second half. Pigman was excellent
If your opinion on the film is the same or similar as the reviews don’t feel bad either I’m glad I watched it for myself but I didn’t like the film and I wouldn’t go out my way to watch it again but I’ve seen worse
Thank you for all your incredible work on these videos. As a long time HB fan (comics first), it does me proud to see someone know what they are talking about do reviews like this ✨👌🏻
I really enjoyed it, it was fun and entertaining.Give us an unrated directors cut...Watch it become a big hit on Blu-ray. A lot of cult classics don't do good in theaters or with critics. CGI was fine, didn't take me out of the movie. Fuck rotten tomatoes! Give him a a sequel!
My problems with the film was that it felt rushed, the camera angles during the fights were a bit hard to follow, the holy sword Excalibur is what brings the Apocalypse and not the right hand of doom which is an awful idea, the character arc for Hellboy made no sense as at some moments whenever he shows regret about killing them and refuses to follow orders it just goes to him instantly wanting to kill the blood Queen, I didn't like it was in the modern day and age, his father and the original group had eternal youth (which was bizarre), I don't wanna be harsh here but I felt like there was too much CGI in the film, and also the fact that the blood Queen just took the hits and didn't actually do anything against Hellboy in terms of an actual fight. I would say this film would've been good for the viewers if they've never heard of Hellboy and just love constant action, gore and constant rotations on fights with tons of swearing. Now I honestly think that this could be great if they get it right in the sequel..... But I also feel like it could've a hundred times better if they made the film longer with less cuts but it would've been a thousand times better if it was a series as they could do a better plot and build up on character arcs, and even if it had a low budget then I would say that they could make costumes for monsters and use CGI for big monsters and demons
Hellboy movies have always had a box office curse to them to a degree... even the good Del Toro movies came out at the wrong times. Hellboy came out shortly after "The Passion of the Christ" and suffered some backlash due to the religious fervor that movie caused and with a character like "HELLboy" they boycotted it out of ignorance. And Hellboy 2 came out a couple weeks before "The Dark Knight", which is arguably one of the most hyped and well regarded comic book movies ever and had tons of press due to the unfortunate and untimely death of Heath Ledger. So, no... best not to try and make another movie for a while. but like others have said, it might work okay for a tv show.
They were trying to capitalize on the name and fan base from the first two and jump on the Deadpool bandwagon without studying what actually made those films work. I imagine the pitch meeting wenta bit like this; "It's the comics 25th anniversary, the people already kinda know about the character from the first two movies, and there is a whole segment of rabid fanboys that will love anything we put on screen as long as we throw a bunch of nods and references to the comics (even if we do it in a crappy, nonsensical way), and hey Deadpool was successful with a tiny budget, so lets just throw a ton of F-bombs and silly gore into the movie along with a bunch of lame attempts at humor and it will be a license to print money gentlemen!"
I 100% agree that this movie got unfairly dogpiled and I do not understand why. I actually watched it for the first time the other day and I was blown away at how much fun I had watching it. This felt like a good representation of what indie comics are like compared to the Marvel mainstream comics. They did stuff in their movie that you'll never see in a Marvel movie. They had a very diverse cast, wove in things from dark fairy tales, didn't shy away from violence, and had great/scary character designs. For my tastes, this is exactly what you'd want after endless paint by numbers marvel movies and it delivered. It's more entertaining than most of the marvel origin movies. I had a lot of fun watching it and that's what matters most. Also, they had a werejaguar in it.... that wins everything in my book.
I would honestly give this movie a 7 out of 10,I love the comic references and the all around style and humour...and David Harbour...oh my fckin god...he is so gosh darn groovy as hellboy its unbelievable.
Well said! I wish more had seen it, even if its not great or good, I really really enjoyed it! I was such a huge fan of The Witch Tree, The Wild Hunt, the whole Queen of Blood storyline. Its just too bad that the film is flopping and not likely to make its budget back. Lobster... JOHNSON!
Here's the thing about the plot (imo), the movie gives so little context for most things that if you haven't seen read the comics, you'll be totally confused, there's practically no context given to anything. If you have read the comics, you'll probably just be laughing the whole time because they just took stuff from the comics and basically just made it worse, the Lucha Libre thing and a few other bits were decently accurate, but with no context, and them just changing stuff and making it worse really didn't make the movie great. Also, the tone is just totally fucked and so are some of the character motivations. I didn't expect this to be comic-accurate, and didn't want it to totally be comic accurate, but there was so much stuff that they just took and made worse that I was just laughing the whole movie.
I really wanted a dark tone movie with some beautiful practical effects instead of digital not just because of the Del Toro films but the appeal of it and the realism of it is much better. I wish Hellboy’s teenage attitude was toned down much more.
Maybe someday we could get another hellboy animated movie. Btw loved the review, especially when you said fuck you to the people who just won't let Guilhermo Del Toro go.
Director of photography is the most important person in the production and responsible for how the movie looks and feels, maybe even more important than the director...cough...cough... you forgot the editor...still a interesting review, thank you for that. Probably going to see it, although I am not optimistic. Why did they choose this particular storyline for a reboot? Feels kinda weird to me.
Absolutely about the editor. When the academy said they were going to remove those bits for the awards show. I was like literally without the dp and the editor, you dont even have a movie. They are the most fundamental pieces.
I saw it recently. A valiant attempt from a director I really like, though I still hated this movie. p.s. you guys should do a podcast on the new blood shot movie.
Love the comics but, honestly, this movie is just unwatchable for me. Partly because it’s sad that the studio twisted what could have been a good movie into what we got (same reason why I’ll never watch Josstice League again). The version we got just doesn’t seem to understand the character at a fundamental character though so that even the moments we got that were from Mignola and Marshall were spoiled
Haha I'm fine! I'm just super busy and tired with life stuff. I'm bummed about the movie, but watching The Descent while answering TH-cam comments did the trick. Thanks for watching :)
I feel like Hellboy would do so much better as a Netflix show. The movie felt like a bunch of different episodes of a show thrown together. I love Hellboy, the originals were some of the first comic movies I watched as a kid. When I was about 7 or 8, the Golden Army came out and I loved it. I haven't read much of the comics but I'm working on collecting all of the omnibuses of Hellboy and then reading the spin-offs!
Hellboy seems like a missed opportunity for a tv show. The episodic nature of some of the issues, the ability to tie in one shots without necessarily needing a main narrative. I mean Supernatural is a massive success and Hellboy would probably rival that if not surpass it in the right hands. Who knows maybe we'll get one but I doubt it. Would love for HBO to pick it up onto their roster.
I enjoyed the movie, the problem is a lot of back stories were not explained, like the baba yaga and Ruiz , seasoned fans could relate but a lot of uninitiated folks were put off and to them the film felt like a sequel whose first part they hadn't seen .. and that was a huge problem because gotta understand Hellboy Comics are not very widely read still
I watched it some hours ago and I don't know man, I really think it was that bad, they crammed so much in the story, most of the stuff was really poorly executed and they went so fast with it that plotpoints didn't felt earn or natural. Either way, the script was just... Ugh. And as a Hellboy fan, I feel they butchered so much the characters and the story, like what someone who doesn't really understand Hellboy think of him as. I don't like saying I hate things, that's a waste of energy, but let's just say I kinda despise this movie. Sorry Mike, I tried being optimistic.
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That stare into the camera at the beginning says enough lmao
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Mike Mignola was "minimally involved" in the reboot. He helped with some ideas and offered some advice, but was not involved in design or production and just executive produced it. He was actually far more involved in the Del Toro movies
This I believe.
@@AlphaRookie I read it in several interviews with the man. They just took a bunch of his work, his money, and a couple ideas and basically kicked him to the curb. I have seen videos and interviews with Del Toro where they are discussing how the characters are going to look, designs, interactions, etc. It wasn't as true to the source material, but had more of the creators involvement and a sense of love and care for the property from the people making it. This feels like a big "well fuck you Del Toro, how dare you want creative control and no interference, we can make something better than you can.... we'll basically make "HELLPOOL" and rake in the money!"
Yep this was very much a producer controlled feature (Lawrence Gordon and Lloyd Levin). They even had Neil Marshall's DOP fired as a 'power play', to bait him into doing what they want, and it sort of worked. The absolute shit show of a production is all to see on screen - a disjointed, and poorly made film.
@james paul I never heard him say a negative thing about the Del Toro movies. Only thing I've heard is Del Toro leans more to the fantasy aspect, and the 2019 has more plot elements from the source material. Where did you hear he dislikes them?
@james paul And I heard they did consider making a third, but Del Toro couldn't get the funding he needed.
I've seen a lot of reviews ,but this one is the one who I've been waiting for 🔥🔥🔥
It's not that bad! It's getting dogpiled. See it for yourself.
Same here, bro! Was waiting for this review more than payday on my job.
That stare at the start says it all! This film is absolutely trash
Came here to say this; you did it for me, thanks.
Lobster Johnson was the best part. It made me want to see a whole Lobster Johnson flick. I can't say this movie was a good one.
Unfortunately i feel like this is the direction a lot of movies are ending up... where directors and actors who get great casting but then half way through filming they're getting thrown into "no, you need to change the script to say..." or "do this instead..." by other higher-ups and that is sad bc it ruins potentially good movies. I'm still going to go see this though.
Neil Marshal didn't know what to do with this movie himself. Lobster Johnson and Luchador Vampire. The two pointless scenes, with two pointless characters, were his ideas. He wanted to have them. Why? God knows why.
It's a lot of fun!
I want David to have a Hellboy Netflix series
Me too! Well have to settle for his other netflix series I think.
Silk Worm I honestly think an HBO Hellboy series with David that’s just a straight adaptation of the books would be great! Less meddling producers and forced comedy, and it can be pretty cool.
@@nastylittlecritter And or some adaptations of more obscure and unknown folk tales. New stuff doesn't need to live in the shadow of the comics.
I'd prefer if they dropped the reboot universe, implied that everything we don't see is more or less exactly like those events happened in the comics (by directly telling some) and redesign the makeup to set it apart from the reboot and do the comic look and tone justice.
I think the franchise could benefit from distancing itself from the "Legendary AF" "One hell of a Superhero" "R rated gore-real" marketing.
You can have a monster-centric horror world with an unkillable protagonist and still work as tried and true horror. A man obligated to a dangerous job simply because he was born for no other business who constantly finds himself outliving his friends and colleagues makes for a really compelling character.
Silk Worm that would be awesome
I'd like an episode on wolves of Saint august
You're a really great reviewer. You can tell you are genuine about your feelings and thoughts and you empathize with the film. I appreciate that. I hate when people just say "oh the movie was garbage." Like... C'mon man. There was a lot of hard work put into it.
Lobster friggin Johnson! Not much to say about this review other than I agree.
For the sake of the genre...go and see it , ppl....we need more indie comic book movies!
No.
It's really fun and Gory, it's was a good time!
No, don't reward stupid reboots and horrible movies with massive studio interference. Teaching the studio that they can't just crap out an indy comic movie will force them to do things right and actually care about the source material like they did with the Crow, Deadpool, and the first two Hellboy movies. Rewarding crap will just get you more crap.
This is the same studio that made the crappy "Conan" reboot, same problems that plagued that one, plagued this one... good concept, stayed truer to the source material, but is following a legend and suffered from horrible villain, choppy editing, and a convoluted and trite story, and a lot of Studio interference.
This
"stayed truer to the source material,"
In what source material did Hellboy or Professor Broom ever said the F word? This movie is a disgrace to the source material.
@@MachineFuckingHate Has several storylines and characters from the comic and several story arcs, but yeah other than that this is a fucking mess. I see some of these idiots running around "HOLY SHIT LOBSTER JOHNSON IS IN IT 10/10 MUS SEE!!!!!1!!!11!!!! OMFGBbq!!!
Lol even tho I liked the Conan remake a lot, I know it's not a great story and the editing kinda sucked. The fight scenes were awesome tho and yes I grew up on the originals, but I still liked the remake better. Mainly because bad special effects are harder for me not to notice as an adult.
i can sense the departure of dp . I am 100 % certain that the guy they fired was responsible for those first production photos with David Harbor that looks badass . The difference between them and the final product is night and day !
I just started reading the Hellboy comics. The fist issue of Hellboy explicitly states that Trevor Bruttenholm's last name is pronounced like the word broom.
Thank you for your honest review. Will go see the movie this weekend.
I liked the movie and hope theres a sequel, but your review is the only one I've liked thank you for being honest.
Out of all the movie reviews and critics- you were the most genuine of them all.
Yo question could you do other stuff for hellboy like Edward Grey, BPRD, or something smaller like Rise of the Black Flame.
Sorry, but no. Neil Marshal gets the blame too for this movie being hard to follow. After the news of the movie's troubled production came out, I guess everyone started saying that it was all studio's fault while Marshal wanted to make a great movie. But Mignola just confirmed in his recent interview that two pointless ideas in this movie were from Marshal. Luchador Vampire and Lobster Johnson were Marshal's ideas, and they are pointless to this movie's story. They're just fan service. Those characters and their history in the comics allows you to make an entire movie about them, but you just shoehorn them as cameos for no rhyme or reason. The point of this reboot was to get smaller, wasn't it? Then adapt one of those small, straightforward one-off stories from Hellboy into the movie. Don't shove every big and small story into one giant mess of a movie. This reboot shot itself in the hove.
"The worst you can say is that this was a mediocre movie" No. This is not the worst you can say. The worst you can say is to say what this movie actually was...AWFUL.
There’s some stuff in this movie worth seeing? Especially if you’re a Hellboy fan?
And that’s the problem. If you wanna make a successful movie, you don’t make it for Hellboy insiders.
I'd love to hear what you have to say about the video game adaptations of hellboy (I can only think of one right now) but I'd imagine they aren't very good but I clearly don't like hellboy as much as you do so I'd love to see your opinion.
There's three games, dogs of the night/asylum Seeker, the Java game for phones that came out with the golden army and the science of evil, oh and the injustice 2 guest character
I loved this movie. totally biased. Lobster Johnson made it for me. I agree there are lots of problems and agree with a lot of what you said, especially the daddy issues stuff. but I had fun and saw some stuff I never thought would be brought to a screen.
Tastes differ. You don't need to feel biased just because you like it. You are entitled to enjoy the film.
This is actually better than what I thought it was going to be didn’t know that it had such trouble production but I thoroughly love it I give the movie a C+
Have you read Mike Mignola's Baltimore? Would love to know your thoughts about it.
It's pretty irksome when i hear Rotten Tomatoes get criticized about it's score, and the whiners don't even know how it works so glad you cleared that up. What's also annoying is that the people don't even bother reading the reviews. Most of the critics are not fanboys of Del Toro or Hellboy comics, they are doing their best to be objective about the film and their experience with it. I wanted this movie to be good( and hey maybe I'll enjoy when i stream it) but i am not going to go all the way to theater and throw my money away to watch it, not to mention the expenses of getting there and returning, food, paying for family or date etc on a subpar movie. I rather no Hellboy movies than them churning out cash grabs shitty films.
Fair.
Thanks for the review. HUGE Hellboy fan and I was let down before even going yesterday and it was EXACTLY as you say here. The design and care put into this movie was evident and I caught myself wondering why the hate was so strong. This movie is a dozen times better and more entertaining than MIB 3, RIPD, Ghostbusters (2016) and a dozen other recent movies somewhat similar. The tone was obviously trying to do an Army of Darkness, tongue- in-cheek thing and got sullied by what I can only imagine as a thousand "Make it like Deadpool/Guardians of the Galaxy!" requests from people who have likely never read Hellboy before. It was certainly odd seeing that tug of war happening on screen but my shock was at how much I was okay with 75% of this movie. Cut out some of the lesser CGI aspects and lose the shitty rock soundtrack cues and this could have been pretty outstanding. I too really got excited when Marshall got hired as I could just see what he might do based upon all his other films. Somehow the talent involved and Harbor's commitment to the role won me over. It shone through the shitty handling of the obviously troubled production. I am certainly buying this on BluRay just to replay certain scenes that stuck with me. The Baba Yaga scene even rivals the creepiness of Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth eye hands scene. I look at this movie as one I will watch often just to appreciate it for what it is and what it does well. Sad they likely won't get to retry with less interference and a more dry, gothic R tone. Get that Netflix series going ASAP!
Awesome Review bro, loved the respect you gave to the film.
You are right about Rotten Tomatoes and I often bring it up when people use it to try to compare movies to each other. RT scores are a totally inapproriate tool for that because they give you an impression of what proportion of reviewers liked/disliked it, but not on how good they thought it was.
So is a film where 90% of the audience think its fairly good better than a film where 70% of people thought was absolutely excellent but the others didn't care for it at all? Difficult to say, but people who use RT scores will claim that the former is obviously better. It has a higher rating!
At my local movie theater (AMC) it's literally getting a week and then its out of theaters :(
Can you please recommend me a few books to read before watching the movie? Or its totally standalone and casual friendly?
BladePocok The Wild Hunt? I know I'm not who you were expecting. But that's just my personal recommendation.
I haven't seen it yet but from what I can guess from reading nearly all of the mignaloverse (the hellboy comic universe) you should only need to read the original hellboy run. It's really worth reading even if this movie ends up being terrible. Definitely don't just read Wild Hunt though, it isn't a good starting point and is in fact the end of the original hellboy comics, not including the series after, Hellboy in Hell (which is really good).
Cabe Skywalker I think he was specifically asking what books to read to better understand the movie. I assume the implication was that they didn't want to or aren't able to read the entire original run.
@@jackhanson3856 I don't want to "rush into" the Mignolaverse, just want to "catch up" before the movie.
BladePocok Why are 'rush into' and 'catch up' in quotation marks? I didn't say any of that. But yeah. In that case, you're gonna have to read the original Hellboy run.
I started reading the Hellboy comics after I started watching this channel and tiday I watched the movie too.
I would say it wasn’t as bad. Definitely not as bad as the reviews in rotten tomatoes are making it out to be. I will admit I’d have liked a version that was true to the comics. But oh well...
I’d still say I had a good time. It was good entertainment
"I will admit I’d have liked a version that was true to the comics."
Which this movie definitely wasn't. Hellboy doesn't swear in the comics, nor did Professor Broom. Nor were their relationships bitter like this movie portrayed. Nor was the tone of the comics managed like an edgelord power fantasy with violence on the level of Happy Friends. This movie is as accurate to the Hellboy comics as Resident Evil movies were accurate to the games.
EgocentricHead
Yes thats what I said in my original comment. I said I’d have preferred a version that is similar to the comics. Which this movie is not. Thats why I consoled myself with an “Oh well”
Still its a decent enough movie. Quite entertaining. I’m not comparing this particular movie with the comics at all.
If you weren't a comic fan, never really heard of or seen anything with Hellboy in it, how do you think you would feel about the movie??
A lot of critics/movie-goers aren't Hellboy fans, so pandering to a small demographic (made even smaller by the hard "R" rating) is a sure recipe for disastrous box office numbers. Yes, people who recognize the bit cameos and characters, the easter eggs and storylines used might give this a 5 or 6 out of 10... but the average movie-goer comparing it to Perlman and Del Toro? 2 or 3 out of 10 tops.
I'm gonna trust you, mostly because Hellboy in Mexico is one of my favorite comics ever (maybe it's got something to do with the fact that I'm mexican, but who knows) and I never ever expected to see it adapted on the big screen. Thank you for being the voice of reason on the internet
That may have been my favorite part.
Just saw it, and I must say. It's not that bad. I really have a low expectation since most comments on the reviews here on youtube(didn't watched them, just read comments). But I was pleasantly surprised. I still haven't read any Hellboy comic so I can't say much.
EDIT: oh yeah, the second half of the movie felt really slow.
By the way, have you guys seen some of the Alien shorts, and are you planning on reviewing or doing some commentary about them? I particularly like "Specimen" and "Ore" so far.
Great thoughtful review! I had a lot of the same thoughts.
I still think that Hellboy would work better as a hbo or Netflix series but I still want to see this at some point. Unfortunately it’s between Shazam! and Endgame so I might not be able to get to it in theaters.
Definitely do not see this over those other two! Unfortunately most comics just by virtue of longform storytelling, would make better tv series than films.
Alpha Rookie I just feel the themes and amount of characters and stories in Hellboys universe suits a series on one of those platforms and would fit right in with say, Netflix offering with their marvel shows and now Umbrella Academy but yea I came to the acceptance that I wouldn’t be able to see it in theaters a while ago. I really wanted to be able to support just because it’s Hellboy and had good names behind it but... it’s just out at a bad time. Shazam! Is great tho, seeing your opinion on that would be cool tho I know you’ve usually delved more into the darker more adult themed comics and stuff so no hard feelings if you don’t lol love your content, keep it up.
I like watching your reviews because you say it true. I honestly do hope they come out with a second one, but who knows. They might just say no and move on or they'll actually say you know what let's give it another try for the sake of the #Hellboy fans. I watched it with my friend and girlfriend and we left the theater when it ended (after both post credit scenes) talking about what we liked and disliked. I enjoyed it and thought it could've been better, but it did well for what we got
What's the background music?
I can try to find out, but I'm pretty sure it was just labeled Ambient Loop 7. I probably named it that after finding a bunch of random background musics off TH-cam library.
@@AlphaRookie
Gotcha. It sounded like a remix/rearrangement of some music from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
I really enjoyed the movie and had fun watching it. I don't get all the people shitting on it and making it out to be so much worse than it was.
I enjoyed this review and I agree with your opinion. It wasn't the best and it wasn't what I was expecting but as a Hellboy fan it gave me things I've always wanted to see on the big screen.
It's similar to the Batman vs Superman situation. Honestly I'm hoping that Lionsgate will let the director make an extended cut of this film. Which I have a feeling they probably won't do. Maybe there will be deleted scenes.
could you guys do a video covering all/most of the godzilla comic books. i am a big fan of godzilla and would love too see you guys talk about the comics.
Funny story, that's literally what we've been working on, but moving houses has interrupted that video.
I don't follow the channel. I just came across you a few months ago, probably when the first Hellboy trailer came out due to a TH-cam recommendation or something, and I enjoyed listening to you talk about the differences between the films and the comics. I, myself, don't read or care about the comics and enjoyed the Del Toro movies but thought they lacked something, particularly the second one.
So, after going to see Hellboy at 11 AM while my daughter was in preschool, I came home and mentioned I'd seen it to others, only to find out it's apparently terrible or something. So I came back to see specifically what you thought and I was expecting to be annoyed by a whining fanboy trashing of the movie, but you were really even-handed about it and I appreciate that.
I think I enjoyed it... well, given the press, probably a lot more than most people. Violence, vulgarity, and action are definitely well within my wheelhouse and I thought it was a fun movie, though it definitely felt like far too much was packed in. I didn't hear about the problems and am very disappointed that Marshall was treated so poorly, as I love The Descent and Doomsday. It didn't feel like one of his movies and it definitely needed to be paced out more, but the character and monster designs were great, the action was good, I liked Harbour and the rest of the cast, and I instantly walked out of the movie, looked up who Thomas Haden Church was playing, and decided I needed to see a movie about that character immediately. As a non-fan of Hellboy and Mignola, Lobster Johnson was worth the price of admission for me. But I was definitely satisfied, even if it was too bloated with stuff going on and all sense of nuance trimmed out.
Do you see this film benefiting significantly from a director's cut?
If the production was as bad as it sounds, I doubt well see any kind of directors cut. That being said, of course I would want to see Marshall's cut. I watched Dog Soldiers and The Descent this week. Hes a really talented storyteller.
A lot of this was very 'eh, that's fine.' I didn't think any of it was really offensive, and what of it that I enjoyed I did quite enjoy. A lot of it I found would have been better if they a) corrected the tone (I like swearing but not all characters should have been swearing and b) fleshed out their references a bit better - I would have liked to hear just a reference to the fomorian giant Grom and for Gruagach to have just been a faerie and they definitely should have bloodied up the blood queen (I love the imagery of Nimue standing up from the chest in the comics).
Just needed that little, little bit extra.
I just saw it tonight. It was hot, confused, and jumbled garbage. Makes me want to watch the Ron Pearlman version to get the stink off my brain.
Gonna see if I can get and read the comics in the next few months.
Thanks for the heads up.
Finally there's some not-all-so negative review, honestly it doesn't matter that much since i've already bought tickets for it so will see
The worst thing in Hollywood is a producer.
The Producers were feuding with the director. And eventually took over post-production and chopped up the film in the editing room just to spite him.
Which is probably why it comes off as so uneven and tonally inconsistent.
Apparently Neil Marshall wanted it to be tonally consistent with the comics. But the Producers just wanted it to be more like Deadpool.
I'm hoping for a directors cut.
@godzillarex888 I'm not saying all Producers. But most of them are clueless.
Even Spielberg screws up sometimes.
Producers need to know how and when to be helpful.
They need to know when to give the director freedom and when to step up and rein them in.
Just read about his relationship as a producer for the Transformers movies.
Perfect example.
Just because this movie followed the comics closer than the Del Toro films doesn't mean it was good. The Del Toro films at least had something this film didn't: Heart.
I don’t trust other hell boy reviewers so I’ve been waiting for this, thank you
Best review on TH-cam! I actually enjoyed the movie more then Del Toros Hellboy. Del Toros hellboy was so far from the comics if it had been a marvel or dc movie fan would have crucified Del Toro for it. Every time I hear someone compare Hellboy 2019 to Del Toro Hellboy I get a strong urge to back hand the shit outta them
I’m sorry, but if a superhero movie is bad, regardless of whether or not the characters are independently owned...shouldn’t the fans of the series/characters NOT go see it? Hell, some of the negative reviews I’ve seen and heard CAME from fans of Hellboy! Also, how is Millennium Films not sued yet considering the possible interference they had a hand in the film’s final cut?
Jack of All Claws Yes but that means we likely won't get anything better for a long time. It's not good in either case. It's sticking people between a rock and a hard place because supporting and not supporting the movie each come with some shitty consequences
Crabby Dragoon thanks
can’t believe you like this better than ron pearlmans hellboy 😂😭
I was loving every second of the movie, i had so much fun watching it, it was so bloody and over the top it was just impossible to not have fun while watching this over the top action gore movie. 10/10 give me more
Your opinion is the only one I care about on this topic
It really just feels like a very bad setup to a great sequel
Watched it last night. I give it a 5 out of 10. The intro was garbage but as soon as you see Hellboy was great up until the second half. Pigman was excellent
I'm still excited for this movie. I don't care about the reviews
That's the spirit!
If your opinion on the film is the same or similar as the reviews don’t feel bad either I’m glad I watched it for myself but I didn’t like the film and I wouldn’t go out my way to watch it again but I’ve seen worse
Thank you for all your incredible work on these videos. As a long time HB fan (comics first), it does me proud to see someone know what they are talking about do reviews like this ✨👌🏻
I really enjoyed it, it was fun and entertaining.Give us an unrated directors cut...Watch it become a big hit on Blu-ray. A lot of cult classics don't do good in theaters or with critics. CGI was fine, didn't take me out of the movie. Fuck rotten tomatoes! Give him a a sequel!
For me, this is the only review that matters. Thanks for your opinion.
I’m a huge Hellboy fan and I had a rad time at this movie.
My problems with the film was that it felt rushed, the camera angles during the fights were a bit hard to follow, the holy sword Excalibur is what brings the Apocalypse and not the right hand of doom which is an awful idea, the character arc for Hellboy made no sense as at some moments whenever he shows regret about killing them and refuses to follow orders it just goes to him instantly wanting to kill the blood Queen, I didn't like it was in the modern day and age, his father and the original group had eternal youth (which was bizarre), I don't wanna be harsh here but I felt like there was too much CGI in the film, and also the fact that the blood Queen just took the hits and didn't actually do anything against Hellboy in terms of an actual fight. I would say this film would've been good for the viewers if they've never heard of Hellboy and just love constant action, gore and constant rotations on fights with tons of swearing.
Now I honestly think that this could be great if they get it right in the sequel..... But I also feel like it could've a hundred times better if they made the film longer with less cuts but it would've been a thousand times better if it was a series as they could do a better plot and build up on character arcs, and even if it had a low budget then I would say that they could make costumes for monsters and use CGI for big monsters and demons
I watched it with my family and we enjoyed the film there was comedy with the dark tone. I also liked the soundtrack
Feels bad, because this will make Hellboy not a viable commercially marketable title, so we won’t get a Hellboy movie for a long time
Hellboy movies have always had a box office curse to them to a degree... even the good Del Toro movies came out at the wrong times. Hellboy came out shortly after "The Passion of the Christ" and suffered some backlash due to the religious fervor that movie caused and with a character like "HELLboy" they boycotted it out of ignorance. And Hellboy 2 came out a couple weeks before "The Dark Knight", which is arguably one of the most hyped and well regarded comic book movies ever and had tons of press due to the unfortunate and untimely death of Heath Ledger.
So, no... best not to try and make another movie for a while. but like others have said, it might work okay for a tv show.
Man this movie is legit the worst. I don't know how they expected to make any money.
They were trying to capitalize on the name and fan base from the first two and jump on the Deadpool bandwagon without studying what actually made those films work.
I imagine the pitch meeting wenta bit like this; "It's the comics 25th anniversary, the people already kinda know about the character from the first two movies, and there is a whole segment of rabid fanboys that will love anything we put on screen as long as we throw a bunch of nods and references to the comics (even if we do it in a crappy, nonsensical way), and hey Deadpool was successful with a tiny budget, so lets just throw a ton of F-bombs and silly gore into the movie along with a bunch of lame attempts at humor and it will be a license to print money gentlemen!"
You should read the review by Bibiani from.The Wrap.
He liked the movie and seems like a fan.
I 100% agree that this movie got unfairly dogpiled and I do not understand why. I actually watched it for the first time the other day and I was blown away at how much fun I had watching it. This felt like a good representation of what indie comics are like compared to the Marvel mainstream comics. They did stuff in their movie that you'll never see in a Marvel movie. They had a very diverse cast, wove in things from dark fairy tales, didn't shy away from violence, and had great/scary character designs. For my tastes, this is exactly what you'd want after endless paint by numbers marvel movies and it delivered. It's more entertaining than most of the marvel origin movies. I had a lot of fun watching it and that's what matters most. Also, they had a werejaguar in it.... that wins everything in my book.
Ahhh man. You didn't mention the Wild Hunt stuff.
I would honestly give this movie a 7 out of 10,I love the comic references and the all around style and humour...and David Harbour...oh my fckin god...he is so gosh darn groovy as hellboy its unbelievable.
I hope after some time passes, we get a streaming service series of B.P.R.D with hellboy as the lead.
Well said! I wish more had seen it, even if its not great or good, I really really enjoyed it! I was such a huge fan of The Witch Tree, The Wild Hunt, the whole Queen of Blood storyline. Its just too bad that the film is flopping and not likely to make its budget back.
Lobster... JOHNSON!
Here's the thing about the plot (imo), the movie gives so little context for most things that if you haven't seen read the comics, you'll be totally confused, there's practically no context given to anything. If you have read the comics, you'll probably just be laughing the whole time because they just took stuff from the comics and basically just made it worse, the Lucha Libre thing and a few other bits were decently accurate, but with no context, and them just changing stuff and making it worse really didn't make the movie great. Also, the tone is just totally fucked and so are some of the character motivations. I didn't expect this to be comic-accurate, and didn't want it to totally be comic accurate, but there was so much stuff that they just took and made worse that I was just laughing the whole movie.
More or less my thoughts when I saw it. Too bad, hellboy deserves better. Would love to see you cover B.P.R.D.
I'm going to see it today
I saw it in theaters and, yeah, it's terrible, but it is fun to watch. I would recommend it, especially for David Harbour's performance.
I really wanted a dark tone movie with some beautiful practical effects instead of digital not just because of the Del Toro films but the appeal of it and the realism of it is much better. I wish Hellboy’s teenage attitude was toned down much more.
Maybe someday we could get another hellboy animated movie. Btw loved the review, especially when you said fuck you to the people who just won't let Guilhermo Del Toro go.
Director of photography is the most important person in the production and responsible for how the movie looks and feels, maybe even more important than the director...cough...cough... you forgot the editor...still a interesting review, thank you for that. Probably going to see it, although I am not optimistic. Why did they choose this particular storyline for a reboot? Feels kinda weird to me.
Absolutely about the editor. When the academy said they were going to remove those bits for the awards show. I was like literally without the dp and the editor, you dont even have a movie. They are the most fundamental pieces.
@@AlphaRookie Exactly. Sad to see the supposedly "most important" award for the craft of filmmaking consider these actions.
Thank you dude I appreciate it very much 😁
This lines up with a lot of what I've heard. One thing a friend of mine said was that it was "A good movie that the studio beat into a bad movie."
I enjoyed the reboot. Great review man.
I saw it recently. A valiant attempt from a director I really like, though I still hated this movie.
p.s. you guys should do a podcast on the new blood shot movie.
My grandpas and great grandpas say fuck all the god damn time it’s so funny to see them cuss at birds that are just sitting on the power lines
Saw it and liked it. There are two extra scenes in the end credits.
The Lobster Johnson scene alone is worth the ticket.
For me as a comics fan was painful to watch, but I agree, you have to judge for yourself. I loved Harbour's take on the character tho.
Hate how Rotten Tomatoes has suddenly become the go to place to check how good a movie is. Any schmuck with a laptop can post on that moronic website.
Love the comics but, honestly, this movie is just unwatchable for me. Partly because it’s sad that the studio twisted what could have been a good movie into what we got (same reason why I’ll never watch Josstice League again). The version we got just doesn’t seem to understand the character at a fundamental character though so that even the moments we got that were from Mignola and Marshall were spoiled
I would like an animated series of the Hellboy's one shots like
King Vold
Man I love your work and a endearing review but this movie seems to have broken you: are you okay?
Haha I'm fine! I'm just super busy and tired with life stuff. I'm bummed about the movie, but watching The Descent while answering TH-cam comments did the trick. Thanks for watching :)
He is tired from doing all the mental gymnastics he had to do to defend this movie and try to come up with a way to give it a 6/10.
Cool review, dude.
Thanks...I think.
I feel like Hellboy would do so much better as a Netflix show. The movie felt like a bunch of different episodes of a show thrown together. I love Hellboy, the originals were some of the first comic movies I watched as a kid. When I was about 7 or 8, the Golden Army came out and I loved it. I haven't read much of the comics but I'm working on collecting all of the omnibuses of Hellboy and then reading the spin-offs!
My grandfather is 77 and death stares me if i swear at all so yeah i get what you mean with hellboy dropping f bombs
Bit late to this one
But this film was just fun and I loved it. Cool monsters and crazy gore sold it for me. Good stuff
Hellboy seems like a missed opportunity for a tv show. The episodic nature of some of the issues, the ability to tie in one shots without necessarily needing a main narrative. I mean Supernatural is a massive success and Hellboy would probably rival that if not surpass it in the right hands. Who knows maybe we'll get one but I doubt it. Would love for HBO to pick it up onto their roster.
i didn't mind it better than i thought it would be
It's ok it's fine
Great take 👍
I enjoyed the movie, the problem is a lot of back stories were not explained, like the baba yaga and Ruiz , seasoned fans could relate but a lot of uninitiated folks were put off and to them the film felt like a sequel whose first part they hadn't seen .. and that was a huge problem because gotta understand Hellboy Comics are not very widely read still
I bet Lionsgate is now regretting not giving Guillermo Del Toro the funds for the third Hellboy film with Ron Perlman.
If we can replace the writers with good ones and keep everything else this series can be saved
I watched it some hours ago and I don't know man, I really think it was that bad, they crammed so much in the story, most of the stuff was really poorly executed and they went so fast with it that plotpoints didn't felt earn or natural. Either way, the script was just... Ugh.
And as a Hellboy fan, I feel they butchered so much the characters and the story, like what someone who doesn't really understand Hellboy think of him as. I don't like saying I hate things, that's a waste of energy, but let's just say I kinda despise this movie. Sorry Mike, I tried being optimistic.