Turning soda cans into a metal bar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2022
- For a while now, I've wanted to try making aluminum bars, by recycling metal cans. So I went ahead, and bought a large propane furnace.
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This is the calmest Nile Red video. No disaster, no yeeting, didn't destroy the end result, it's just all fun and games
0:04
@@-_-5808 oops seems like I forgot about that one
Unhealthy smoke
2:11
@@Ro_Gaming he just threw it but it didn't break, unlike his other videos like where he dropped that liquid containing gold and all
Nile: “smoke is probably bad to breathe in”
Also Nile: “but anyway-“
OHNO... any way
That smoke is from the plastic shell lining the can. Without the plastic such a thin layer of aluminum would oxidize quite quickly. You have about as much aluminum as you do plastic in each can. This is why you get a lot of black smoke.
@Dry deserts of Highfleet He is so powerful he can breathe it
This is the first time since I was 12 years old that I wanted to recycle some cans.
Great! Now you just need 23 more iron Ingots for a full set!
Nah bro you gotta take it to the next level; make a smeltery!
Do we have ex nihilo? I dont wanna have to find a river for clay
@@raspberryjam gregtech EBF and Vacuum freezer
@@vertice30c26 oh god do we even have MV automated? I can make a batch of HV but its gonna be really difficult without an ME system
iron armor is weak. and its an estimated 50 bars to craft a full set on the 2d one
When he actually "carefully" does it, I was shocked and asked myself:
"He has changed"
It's OK, he still dropped it to the floor in the end.
What were you expecting? Him to drop molten metal on the floor or something?
I doubt anyone would enjoy a 600-700C heat burn (melting point of Al)
@@Logia_ we're expecting something dangerous, like pour it to dangerous substance like uranium or something
Just go watch some NileBlue and you'll be proven otherwise in no time :D
The amount of cans it took to make that bar is quite impressive
Not that much though, cans only have a thin layer of aluminium.
Hello
shows you how efficient aluminum can production is
You can rip the Aluminium cans with your hand easily, but Aluminium is actually a really strong metal, It is even used in Planes.
This shows how thin the cans really are.
Well it’s mostly ink and plastic
I don't know why but I was expecting the aluminum to shatter when you dropped it
0:14 doctor strange opening a portal
When he said "carefully" I fully expected him to miss the mold entirely
True
When NileRed drops the bar and no damage happens:
*Wait, that's illegal*
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0:38 *roar*
_oh no the heat beast has awaken_
*run*
0:03
"Oh, sorry I forgot to record." 😭
The smoke was from the paint and inner plastic lining (and any residue left from the beverages the cans contained), and yes it is bad to breathe. You should wear a respirator or at least an N95 mask.
Also, you don't need to light the furnace, put the crucible in, then put the cans in once it's hot. It's a lot more efficient to just crush up a few cans and fill the crucible with them, put it in the furnace and then light it. You can then add more cans once the initial lot have melted.
I used to do metal casting as a hobby, but had to stop when the neighbours complained after I melted some brass and they got the zinc fumes blown onto their property. Not my proudest of moments...
"You don't need to light the furnace" .
Pretty sure that's not true . . .
@@peterherrington3300 If you read the whole thing the OP said, you'll know they meant that you don't need to light the furnace preemptively.
That's why it's usually done in a well ventilated, spacious indoor area like a garage, right?
N95 masks dont do much to protect you from gases
@@Junren129 I can understand where Peter is coming from if you simply read one small part of the sentence, and then literally ignore everything else that was written.
I feel like I've come full circle. I got into more advanced science TH-cam by watching soda can melting videos, and now the more advanced science TH-camrs are melting soda cans
Lmao same here
Rip Grant Thompson, The King of Random
it was beer cans!
@@jhonviel7381 it was a mix, but beer is just alcoholic soda imo
@@alex12ray beer was invented before soda
Man this takes me back to the old TKOR vids. Thx for the nostalgia, brought back some good old days:3 Missing you everyday Grant👑
the stink that came from the 1st can, was really the thin plastic layer on the inside of the can to prevent the drink from tasting metallic
Just FYI, pretty sure that tin cans have a plastic film lining them. So that's probably what made the smoke and the smell. Though I could be wrong
You are absolutely right. I think there was a tkor video that showed it.... i now want to see a nilered tkor collab
That is correct. Afaik that plastic basically can't be recycled though and is always burned.
@misyah f**k off spambots. Everyone make sure that you report these bots for spam every time you see them.
@@shn4449 don't reply to them, though
It’s aluminum. Not tin.
There’s a thin plastic layer between the liquid and the can so that it prevents the drink from tasting metallic, that’s what the smoke was about
aluminum is also pretty toxic to consume, so don't drink any aluminum canned liquid that tastes metallic
the plastic is tasteless but taints the beverage and foods with estrogen mimicking compounds, reducing fertility and longevity, improving the climate.
@@mgntstr if the plastic was intentionally put there to improve the climate, the people behind the ploy need to reevaluate their plan cuz the climate ain't improving as much as they hoped lol
The plastic also prevents the corrosive beverages from eating through the can.
wtf
That clinking sound at the end was SO satisfying.
At first I was like: "This should be full of all the science and good knowledge that I don't get from the hundreds of videos of numpties that do the same thing."
But then I was all: "Huh... I guess it was simpler than all those other folks made it look."
Yeah melting aluminum cans is pretty easy to do when I was a kid we would sometimes when camping toss a can into the campfire and watch it melt.
I love the sound of the aluminum bar dropping on the ground... It's like dropping coins on the ground which sounds pretty good honestly...
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@@Henryfordisright fun fact: the kingdoms of old forced Jews to become bankers and financiers because Christianity and Islam both forbade interest. So the "Jews love money" thing is self-inflicted and let's be honest, I'm not even Jewish and I'm an extraordinarily miserly person
Wow, this is one that I've actually got a bit of experience with. One time out camping, my dad had the bright idea to make an aluminum version of those bigfoot footprint plaster casts. We took a steel bucket and put all the used beer and soda cans from the trip into it, put it in the fire until the cans were a liquid, and poured it into the print. Unfortunately our recipe accidentally made chunky flavor aluminum, so the footprint cast came out looking really really bad, with lots of bubbles and a couple semi-intact pull tabs and base rings sticking out from odd angles. But it was still really fun to stir the cauldron during the melting phase.
I mean, hey. It’s still a piece of history.
I never managed to melt aluminium in a fire.
But the year before covid, me and my pals went to a camping trip near some abandoned towns (from before the WWII). We scouted there and found a lot of cool stuff, but also even more modern trash.
One of the things we found was a lead pipe poking out of the ground, probably the prewar idea of a water pipe. We broke it off, then back in the camp I chopped it with an axe and we made some molds in the sandy soil. The best result was simply pressing a small pine cone in the ground and using that as a mold. It is quite recognizable.
Also learned a cool trick - when taking things out of a fire, wrap your hand with a wet tshirt.
Hey, you should make more metal bars from everyday objects!!!! Fascinating!
This looks like he was summoning demons with a selection of soda cans lol.
Bigstackd: "Yes... more! MORE!"
was looking for a Bigstackd comment
I was confused when he didn't put a piece of cardboard to prevent sticking. Then I remembered it was NileRed and not BigStackD.
@@Kay_Sea251 I thought that too! Gotta have the cardboard.
1:29 I got scared when he said "carefully"
These videos are amazing keep up the great work
This is the channel I always used to learn science! Science is fun and intresting! Love this channel.
2:00 when you let out a big one,but the warmth doesn’t go away
That dropping sound was really satisfying. Feels like it could be a comfort grasping object to me
Loved the sound at the end
The sound the aluminum brick made when hitting the floor was SO satisfying!!
I used to make pipes out of cans and the toxic fumes from just that has done my lungs no favours and has created irreversible issues. So i don't doubt breathing loads of the fumes in, like in this situation, would definitely be unhealthy and maybe even fatal. Stay safe people because someone loves you and wants you around, even if it's just the tax man. ✌️
Bro, whatcha do to your lungs?
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Man you really lack common sense
Yeah, this is def somethin that shud be done outdoors ideally or under a fume hood.
@@cuddlemuffin.9545 Common sense is such an absurd concept. Not everyone just instinctually knos what to do when faced with something theyve nvr encountered before. Ppl arent born with any knowledge, everything must be learned; so its literally impossible for anything to truly be "common sense" as even the most basic of concepts (like fire hot, body needs to breathe, and avoid cold temps) has to be learned. Much of that is learned at a very young age ofc, but its still learned and someone cud even get to adulthood without actually encountering fire and thus without learning the "common sense" of fire hot until the first time they encounter it and feel its heat. Similarly, someone may not instinctually kno that a stovetop is hot, even if it glows red (tho i more mean when at a low heat and thus not even glowin and not givin off a lot of hot air), and that person cud "lack the common sense" to not put their hand directly on a stovetop... Just cuz they nvr encountered such an object in their life growin up.
And in the same sense, someone may simply not be aware of the fact that the fumes from a soda can contain small amounts of toxic elements that can cause damage over time with significant buildup. Esp given that none of that is just instinctually noticeable and even the smell of the fumes isnt instantly recognizable by the brain as a bad smell. Some folks even state it smells sweet. So like, theres no reason to just assume everyone instinctually knows that those fumes are bad for them. Esp if they werent taught anything similar to such to prepare them for this.
Common sense isnt a thing. Its a way to blame and shame someone for not knowing something you know; often to try to make them feel worse for not knowing the thing. Not everyone just isntinctually knows what toilet paper is used for, CuddleMuffin.
Even though it a rather straightforward process, it's still really nice to see it done. Thank you!
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It's been too long. Great to see another upload!!! :D Love chemistry
I love the short videos, because we get more of them but I also miss the longer videos.
Niles videos are basically a very calm voice over.... With one moment of utter chaos 😂
i’m immensely disappointed that i can’t do this myself even though i know how
Technically you can if you build a kiln yourself. You can make it out of a paint bucket, a special wool and blowtorches. Its pretty neat
@@joannah4587 probably should clarify that it’s a metal bucket because if you used a plastic one it would be a very temporary furnace
@@bobtheblob2770 "Very temporary furnace". I just love this wording. Thank you for making me smile today!
@@bobtheblob2770 too late. now i’ve got a puddle of molten plastic and aluminium all over my garage floor and don’t know what to with it
@@bobtheblob2770 true lol. I totally forgot paint buckets can be made of plastic 😂
This gives me flashbacks to old school King of Random videos. May Grant forever Rest In Peace
I love how u put it with your hands
I am proud to say that i did this once myself when I was like 13. Used this fire starter thing with a makeshift crucible, kept the fire really hot and made sure just to use aluminum cans. It was molten after a while and i just poured it in a metal cup. Still have the solid piece of metal to this day :)
wish i can do that too
It strangely looks like ice cream 😋🍧
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Bruh it isn't its just some metal slab
Yeah same
@@uttpssweber for me it is
XD
Standing on them to get plenty in might be a handy way 👊 loving the videos
Bigstack'd: "You call that a bar? That's not a bar mate... _this_ is a bar..."
*Pulls out large bar from his stash* 😆
He took it to a new-monster-level!
I'm looking forward for other experimental videos with this small furnace
Seemingly we all are surprised that he didn't manage to break that bar of aluminium.
He should have stuck in LN2 first. Some clever camera trickery could have made a pretty surprising ending when the aluminum shattered. I am assuming it would shatter, but I haven't tried it.
I like how he always drops the things at the end.
aluminum is one of those magic metals that is used basically everywhere, its so versatile and useful its nuts.
1:20 Tbh, after that pause, I thought he was gonna say nice and "yummy" aluminium. 😂
I love this guy. Keep up tha good work
Wtf you are 1 minute earlier than the video
put a piece of carboard under the crucible to stop it sticking to the furnace lining. :)
This video is so calm
I did the same thing with a kiln built by just stacking cement blocks and using a large propane torch. It took a couple of 20 lb cylinders of propane, but I reduced three large bags of cans to a half dozen muffin shaped aluminum blocks.
Oh wow!! That's really cool
1:04 looks like you're punching one of the cans
When he dropped it on the floor, so satisfying..... I really needed that
The problem with melting cans is the paint on the outside and (for some cans) a thin layer of plastic that lines it. My older siblings made a makeshift aluminum forge in our back yard and we found the best things to melt where more solid pieces of aluminum and stuff like aluminum foil.
Metal melting is so satisfying
My entire recommended lately has been this channel and bigstackD metal casting. Now they’ve combined wtf
Now I'm imaging Nile drinking in front of a Canadian flag while melting the cans
Pretty sure that's a Devil Forge he using as well.
@@kaine2416 I was just thinking if he e-mailed bigstackD for a discount code and polishing tips...
"I thought it was really satisfying to see it shrivel up and melt"
...
I will have to be watching out for him in the future
hot metals sizzling in water has the most satisfying sound ever
hey a few small tips, before turning on your furnace, put your crucible first with a piece of paper underneath, it will prevent it from sticking. Also load your crucible before firing, as it prevent thermal shocks (especially on crucible of low quality, good one don't really care that much). Finally if you want to degas aluminium, you can either buy small tablets that you have to plunge inside the liquid, or you can bubble nitrogen.
Makes you realize how much aluminum goes to waste with unrecycled cans.
Some absurd fraction of all aluminum ever produced has been recycled. I've seen the number as high as 75%. That's from the fist aluminum produced ever until now. It's way higher than I though it would be, but smelting aluminum ore (using the Hall-Héroult process) is incredibly energy intensive so there is a clear economic incentive. Wikiepedia claims recycling aluminum requires only 5% of the energy of producing raw aluminum from ore.
But you aren't wrong, there is still a lot that does not get recycled.
@@Fix_It_Again_Tony
I think it’s mostly the cans because they’re tossed in the trash in most cases, and not recycled. I’m not concerned that we’ll ever run out of aluminum, considering 9% of the earth’s crust is aluminum, so it is abundant. I just didn’t realize how much aluminum a few soda cans contains until he melted them.
In my country you can recycle them store at grocery stores in a machine for like €0.1 euro per can. I read Carlsberg gets like 85% of their cans and bottle materials returned.
@@aweha here in germany its 0.25€ a can
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I love how the furnace looks like it has an inferno tornado
I want to try that! Looks awesome
Great enjoyable videos, nilered. Kudos👏
Clear ice, melting aluminium... Nile red is becoming Big Stacked!
Ah, a Man of Culture I see!
I had to scroll too far down for this! Up you go!
I wonder if there’s an avid beer or soda drinker out there that owns a forge and recycles their own cans into bars of aluminum just like this
If I ever get a forge that would be me
Better yet, use the alcohol as fuel instead of a beverage.
The "smoke and stank" from melting down those cans comes from the print, and mainly, the plastic liner on the inside of the can.
Eagerly awaiting a main channel video!
That was a very satisfying clink. I think I'll listen to it 5 more times. 2:11
Edit: ... Okay, just 10 more times.
R.I.p long match, sacrifices must be made!
I have been watching a guy from Australia called bigstack D. He does all kinds of melting. The one thing he does before he does any melting is puts a piece of cardboard in to the bottom before he puts in the crucible. He also smashes everything prior to melting.
1:33 was satisfying
when i was 14 me and my dad built a can melter by folowing a grant tompson (origional king of random) tutorial we melted 500 cans and i still have the aluminum we melted was a fun experience 😃
RIP THE KING OF RANDOM
i love the happy little face at the end
idk why but that block of aluminium looks like it would taste really good for some reason
jesus christ though i did flinch when your hand appeared at 0:43. they must be some good-ass insulated gloves
I've been wanting to do this for nearly 10 years. I have easily 50+ pounds of aluminum cans just waiting. I have a custom built foundry, similar to the one in the video... I'm just lazy to do it now xD
I built my own, sooo worth it! Money nope, but bars are basic. Dropping into water, cupcake holders, and just being creative was so much fun.
This guy's experiment is on another level
man i love your vids
If you consider using aluminum cans for casting aluminum - don't.
Aluminum from aluminum cans is terrible for casting because it isn't meant to be cast and lacks the necesary additives.
Instead use cast engine parts, which are easy to come by.
Personally i've found cast VW intake manifolds to be pretty good material for casting at home.
But any other part will work also.
list the additives so I can put them in
So you're saying the aluminum from soda cans is too pure?
@@kingmasterlord I have heard it is primarily added silicon to control the grain structure when it crystallizes. I have cast soda cans before. I don't doubt that it might be "terrible" for strength but I had no issues with decorative pieces. I haven't tried adding silicon yet.
Cans will work if they're all you can get your hands on, but yeah- if you can source something better, definitely do. Even ignoring the less-than-ideal composition of the metal used, cans have so much paint and drek on them that causes a massive amount of dross you wouldn't otherwise get. Plus, the amount of usable metal you get per unit of mass is terrible.
I started off casting with cans and they were fine, but as soon as I could find a better source of metal- a bunch of flytipped garden furniture with aluminium frames, in my case- I ditched them.
@@kingmasterlord I forget what alloy that is to start with, a little magnesium or something I think? Probably not enough to interfere with the key ingredient needed -- silicon. You need a lot of it, typical casting alloys (320, 356) are in the 6-10% range.
Not easy to melt in, as elemental silicon has quite a high melting point, and it's not going to dissolve without a flux (both aluminum and silicon have tough surface oxides!). Next best would be selecting scrap with higher Si content; often, aluminum forgings (some pistons, con rods, e.g. alloy 390) are in the 20-24% range (hypereutectic), so could be diluted by half to get something closer to 356.
1:48 .. Noice !
*NO CANS HARMED DURING MAKING OF THIS VIDEO*
I’ve always wanted to do this!
1: collect aluminum cans
2: melt them into a pure aluminum bar
3:???????????
4: profit
Should have separated the lid and the bodies, as they're different alloys even if both of them are alumium-based. I doubt brass and bronze would have been mixed, for example.
Most brass and bronze alloys are eminently mixable, actually! The classics all have some amount (including zero) of zinc, tin and lead (balance copper). Brass of course having no tin, and maybe a little lead (free machining brass), classic "bronze" having just tin (in varying amounts depending on desired hardness), and mixes for various purposes (85-5-5-5 was commonly used for e.g. cast plumbing fixtures). Also nickel for corrosion resistance and strength (Monel metal; most silvery coins are made from, or clad with, something like this), silicon, and others. The ones I'd watch out for, are aluminum and manganese bronzes, which might not play well with other elements, or are simply harder to work with. (Whereas silicon bronze is especially easy to work with!)
@@T3sl4 You missed my point. I do not say both Al alloys will not mix. I said that it is not conceptually accurate to call such mix "Aluminium". If you melt copper parts for doing a copper inglot and call it copper, you use (usually) quite pure alloys. Mixing brass and bronze and calling it copper is an aberration. By the same way, what you get in the video experiment is not "aluminium". Al least, if you use ony one alloy, it would be closer to "aluminium" than mixing whatever alloy you can get.
@@antonioamosanchez4912 Sure; we don't have words for classes of aluminum alloys, like we do bronzes. Alloys also don't look any different from pure aluminum, and most of them can be said to be 95%+ pure.
No that's actually how they recycle aluminum cans. The main difference between lid and body alloys is the lids have a bit more magnesium than the body. During the smelting process, some of the magnesium reacts with the oxygen in the furnace and comes out of the alloy as magnesium oxide slag. Thus bringing the magnesium average back down in line with the body alloy. So lids+bodies+smelting=body alloy.
I love how kinda looks like a shiny eraser
I might be wrong but quenching might make the aluminum a bit brittle, air cooling might have been better. Amazing videos I'm a new sub
you could do this with iron cans (at a higher temp of course), use CO2 to make carbon dust, and forge a sword made entirely of soda
Iron cans?
Excolabur
In theory you should pre-dry both your crucible and your foundry, (red-hot for hour, and slow cooling for 24 hours) and you should put few crushed cans together with crucible in the foundry, instead of dropping them one by one after preheating the crucible 👍 still, nice video
Give a man a crucible and everything looks like jello
I enjoyed every sec of it!
I don't know why, but I really like metal bars. Wish I had one of every non deadly one.
2:05 I've heard that the tabs at the top are not aluminium. Does that mean it's shiny bar of some aluminium alloy?
The smoke and smell the put off was from a plastic liner inside that the manufacturer puts for stability and to prevent metal contamination
Looks like my boy nile red picked up a devil forge! Hell yeah, you're going to love this thing. I have so much fun with it. Plus it can help you get some nearly pure metals for reactions.
Highly recommend you get some good welding gloves, and a can crusher, 1 safety and 2, you'll be able to fit a lot more cans at once, and cut down on propane costs, personally, I do this a lot...
So I actually have a steel plate to set on top of the crucible, which starves oxygen inside and prevents some of the oxidation.
It helps you get a higher yield, even when you have really thin starting material.
I really hope you enjoy it as much as I do, it's good hobby (although my garage is constantly filled with all kinds of scrap😂)
The reason there’s so much slag is one because of the paint and two there’s a plastic liner in the can
Yaaay we missed you
I not only expected but _waited_ for something to go wrong the entire video
Just FYI, I did this as a kid with a solid-fuel (mostly charcoal/coal, with forced air provided by either a hairdryer or a leaf blower depending on how much heat I was looking for) furnace I built, and what I discovered is that the aluminium in cans has a ton of iron in it. Really, you'd be better off with other sources of aluminium, since if you're not careful it's super easy to end up with literal chunks of iron in your aluminium ingot - which is very, very disappointing.
For your furnace, you can literally use a large brake drum with an L-shaped pipe on a flange welded into the bottom for airblast, plus some kaowool or ceramic barbecue tiles in the bottom to catch all the ash and keep it from falling into the airblast pipe. Bonus points for putting a railway plate on top of the outlet to slow down the rate at which heat escapes the furnace, and then use it to cook stuff while you melt metal... I did this, although it usually ended up burning whatever I was trying to cook pretty badly LOL
Also, you don't need a graphite crucible or mold to melt/cast aluminium. You can use steel - aluminium's melting point is low enough that steel can easily hold molten aluminium.