_Alex's E55 AMG wagon is definitely one keeper of a Benz. Glad FMU is taking the time to align the cold air intake necessary for maximum horsepower gains over the standard factory setup. I can see that you're getting more comfortable on camera O.J., (here's the secret to making your instructional videos shine more, relax). Your shop is clearly one of the very best in the Midwest with you at the helm. Looking forward to the next video for sure from Fluid MotorUnion._
I really enjoy the fact that you guys get into the technical details and really break down all of the ins and outs of building a system like this. Automatic thumbs up fellas!👌🏼
That weistec e55 with all of the ugly welds on the intake is my old car! The “upgraded” throttle body and intake that comes with the Weistec kit is only 82mm throttle body and roughly 3.25” intake piping. When I went stacked pulley, I went for the Cheesebay Hellcat 105mm throttle body and built up the “factory” elbow with weld and hogged out the inside so it was smooth. The car made 700whp on a Dynocom AWD Dyno in 4th gear with no meth. Have you guys dynod that car on your Dyno? Curious to see how it’s doing. The eBay throttle body would cause issues every now and then, and had to be relearned with a key cycle, but it made WAY more power. I sold the car before I could put a “real” throttle body on it and clean up the welds on the outside or just make a new inlet elbow.
Keep these coming, OJ. THIS is what I like to see on YT, and you are an excellent communicator. No BS, just rational, well thought out info. I appreciate what you’re doing, and I hope you get enough response to these to make it worth your time and effort. That’s a serious facility, with real customers, and if this doesn’t make sense financially, we get it. We won’t LIKE it, but we get it.
Smooth is best, outside air is best, away from water is the upmost important. Point the inlet side if the intake to that direction within the constraints of your packaging engine bay etc you'll get the best results. Stock intake inlet for mine was right from the inner fender. BUT it was drawing in the hotter than outside ambient temperatures from tire heat and ambient air from the engine bay via heat soak. Now I have a 3D Printed ram air inlet from the grill a slight bend as a "rain deflector" so any rain while driving will not directly get sucked in, then it goes right into the stock box. FYI I live in Florida, rain is a daily thing 90% of the year. been on for most of this years rainy season ZERO issues. The rest of the system was fine, the inlet just sucked (pun intended) So far whatever the outside air temps for the day is, its within 5-10 degrees above it at idle. So when its 64, which it is now. It pulls in ~70 degree air at speed read via the air intake temp sensor.
Very like the way you present and explain the air intake setup. I particularly appreciate your video because i learn a lot and i like that because im gear head and i can think and talk about car all day long and don't have any people around me to share the passion... So i share with you guys. Tks
Another great video OJ, and Alex wagon is an absolute beauty. Compared to his C63 which is an 800hp beast, I love a wagon! My daily is a Saab 9³ 2.0t wagon with 350hp running over 200k miles and still going strong, doing all the work myself. Keep it up OJ, keep that channel growing!
Awesome video and absolutely love the E55/63 wagon. Closest I’ve ever been to having a car with a whine like that was my old Explorer with a bad power steering pump 😂
Nicely done and explained! When I put a 363 engine into my fox I had to redo and rethink my air intake setup. Space constraints are always the limiting factor. I was able to squeeze in a 4 inch carbon fiber setup after trial and error with aluminum piping. I do not get any heatsoak, and it provides plenty of filtered air feeding into the 105mm throttle body. Once again, great job guys, the air intake looks awesome, can't wait to see the final result!
Great video OJ, love the deep dive on how this all works, however I’ve noticed TH-cam videos that do this tend to have less views than ones that gloss over everything, I personally love it but the mass short attention span public may not. That is something to consider I think!
Hi OJ good video , all l can suggest is you wear a white lab coat with a bunch of pens in top pocket and carry a pointer.. designated dress code for a technician..haha.. look forward to next video
Sign me up for the FMU University channel. This was great for knuckle dragger like myself. I’m going to assume no question is a stupid question in this class so here goes: Could the same be done with something like a filtered hood scoop ? I’m sure it would be much more work trying to design a hood that keeps with lines of the Mercedes, I’m just curious if you get the same volume of air going that route ?
Just a clarification for @6:41 When he's holding the k&n mass air flow sensor holder and mentions there's not an airflow straightening device, this is incorrect. That holder uses a cartridge style mass air flow sensor. This type of sensor has its own straightener and very well defined inlet and outlet of the cartridge itself. So it gets an accurate representation of the air flow through that pipe without having to have specific straighteners for the entire pipe. It gets the mass air going through the sensor itself and then the computer will then extrapolate the entire tube getting that same amount of air through it. This means that on any ECU that uses this style of cartridge mass air flow sensor, if you have the ability to remap the factory tables, you can change the diameter of the tube and then adjust the tables to the new tube diameter. So it's a benefit. But I mostly wanted to point out that the air flow management for straightening the air going through the sensor itself is located within the cartridge itself and not part of the tube. They're actually are straighteners there which he implies there's not. I know he means there's not straighteners in the tube but I just wanted it to be clear because I thought it was a little unintentionally misleading.
I would have liked to see the following mods: Bigger TB, a kind of airbox infront of the TB with some kind of velocity stack inside or at least some kind of radius into the TB. I do not like the design of the Y-pipe and to me it does not look optimal. Also it would have been interesting to see a direct comparison with a dyno run with no air filters inside their housings. Cheers.
O.J., love the video quality and information! I have been subscribed for a long long time . But I will like all the videos on your channel I have time to go back an like .
Nah buddy,please don't beg,just slide the appeal to "like and subscribe" right on into your normal commentary and folks who respect the content will do what's right. Please don't beg.
Wondering your thoughts on this. I have an 08 g8 GT. NA L76 6.0L V8… My intake was just a cheap spectra design. I had added a 90° elbow, another 4in. pipe and a K&N filter. Basically a Fender well intake. My tuner said he didn’t see any restrictions. With headers, catless x-pipe no mufflers, the car made 363rwhp/389tq… some other g8 owners think that I may be losing power. They think I should buy the VCM OTR style intake which sits on top of the radiator. It’s a Ram air design. I appreciate any thoughts you may have
Hey, this is really helpful to me. I think I'm dealing with something similar but on a smaller scale with my c32 AMG. I know you have experience with those platforms and I'm wondering if i could ask you a question either here or via email? Thanks for the video!
Hey oj sup.congrats on your channel, thats cool,wish u the best, wonder if you can help me, ihave a 04 x5 v6 that really need a performance enhancement, is there anything you can recommend, toted of being passed by from other cars with smaler engine, is there a tune or a part i can add or something, appreciate your feedback Yours Ayman m safi Kuwait city
@@FluidMotorUnion ok great , a lot of us have the Stock blower instead of the upgraded shown in the vidoe hopefully u make them for the stock superchargers .
OJ What air intake system have you built for the C32 AMG I am presently running Needswings air intake on one of my C32's and SL55 AMG on the other, On the vehicle I have the needswings system I have VRP short headers, 64mm SC pulley, ECU tune and I am happy with the performance but would like to squeeze more out of the vehicle. The project vehicle running the SL55 system only has a 64mm SC pulley and no tune at the moment. Plan on installing E85 conversion and 550 cc injectors on the one vehicle that has VRP headers but wondering if I will need to revisit the needswings system as I may run into the same issue. Any pointers?
That intake would run into an issue with an aftermarket supercharger. With stock supercharger, depending on level of mods you might see a restriction on the 55. Based on quick calcs on my end - the 55 seems to be restricted with that intake. Ultimately you need a dyno for definitive answers. But if you’re interested in an intake - shoot us a message for more info!
Good call on it was the end of the day Can’t wait to see it on e85 with the tune Thank you so much for trying and testing parts on the m113k set up@@FluidMotorUnion
It’s not a trust issue it’s a comprehension issue… 😜 “Not” is mumbled but can be inferred from what’s said… it’s there. We’re just mechanics and won’t claim to be anything other!
_Alex's E55 AMG wagon is definitely one keeper of a Benz. Glad FMU is taking the time to align the cold air intake necessary for maximum horsepower gains over the standard factory setup. I can see that you're getting more comfortable on camera O.J., (here's the secret to making your instructional videos shine more, relax). Your shop is clearly one of the very best in the Midwest with you at the helm. Looking forward to the next video for sure from Fluid MotorUnion._
I'm a new subscriber .. best wishes for you all Michael Edinburgh
Thanks for the kind words!
OJ is quite good at explaining his thought process. Hopefully the car smashes the dyno figures next time we see it
I really enjoy the fact that you guys get into the technical details and really break down all of the ins and outs of building a system like this. Automatic thumbs up fellas!👌🏼
That weistec e55 with all of the ugly welds on the intake is my old car! The “upgraded” throttle body and intake that comes with the Weistec kit is only 82mm throttle body and roughly 3.25” intake piping. When I went stacked pulley, I went for the Cheesebay Hellcat 105mm throttle body and built up the “factory” elbow with weld and hogged out the inside so it was smooth. The car made 700whp on a Dynocom AWD Dyno in 4th gear with no meth. Have you guys dynod that car on your Dyno? Curious to see how it’s doing. The eBay throttle body would cause issues every now and then, and had to be relearned with a key cycle, but it made WAY more power. I sold the car before I could put a “real” throttle body on it and clean up the welds on the outside or just make a new inlet elbow.
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Keep these coming, OJ. THIS is what I like to see on YT, and you are an excellent communicator. No BS, just rational, well thought out info. I appreciate what you’re doing, and I hope you get enough response to these to make it worth your time and effort. That’s a serious facility, with real customers, and if this doesn’t make sense financially, we get it. We won’t LIKE it, but we get it.
Thanks so much your comment means a lot and its comments like these that keeps us going.
Correct blend of “Power Math” and ease of understanding !! Way to go!!
Likes are free for such awesome content!
Smooth is best, outside air is best, away from water is the upmost important. Point the inlet side if the intake to that direction within the constraints of your packaging engine bay etc you'll get the best results. Stock intake inlet for mine was right from the inner fender. BUT it was drawing in the hotter than outside ambient temperatures from tire heat and ambient air from the engine bay via heat soak. Now I have a 3D Printed ram air inlet from the grill a slight bend as a "rain deflector" so any rain while driving will not directly get sucked in, then it goes right into the stock box. FYI I live in Florida, rain is a daily thing 90% of the year. been on for most of this years rainy season ZERO issues. The rest of the system was fine, the inlet just sucked (pun intended)
So far whatever the outside air temps for the day is, its within 5-10 degrees above it at idle. So when its 64, which it is now. It pulls in ~70 degree air at speed read via the air intake temp sensor.
Great job, I've never been a fan of European cars .. and somehow you guys have made me want to watch you guys fiddle with European cars. Bravo.
Very like the way you present and explain the air intake setup. I particularly appreciate your video because i learn a lot and i like that because im gear head and i can think and talk about car all day long and don't have any people around me to share the passion... So i share with you guys. Tks
Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks, I have a much better grasp of the whole concept now, look forward to the next one!
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting information. Very technical and detailed. Thanks OJ!
You guys already have my number when the intake is ready!! Just make sure it’ll fit a whipple’d 92mm’d CL55 🥳
Another great video OJ, and Alex wagon is an absolute beauty. Compared to his C63 which is an 800hp beast, I love a wagon! My daily is a Saab 9³ 2.0t wagon with 350hp running over 200k miles and still going strong, doing all the work myself. Keep it up OJ, keep that channel growing!
Oj you're the man💪A Great video bro👍👍
Awesome video and absolutely love the E55/63 wagon. Closest I’ve ever been to having a car with a whine like that was my old Explorer with a bad power steering pump 😂
Glad you enjoyed it
Love Alex’s Mercedes Wagon! Keep
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The great work.
What a great video.
Well Done!
Nicely done and explained! When I put a 363 engine into my fox I had to redo and rethink my air intake setup. Space constraints are always the limiting factor. I was able to squeeze in a 4 inch carbon fiber setup after trial and error with aluminum piping. I do not get any heatsoak, and it provides plenty of filtered air feeding into the 105mm throttle body. Once again, great job guys, the air intake looks awesome, can't wait to see the final result!
Love the more technical stuff that your channel gets into OJ. Keep up the good work bro, you are killing it
Great video OJ, love the deep dive on how this all works, however I’ve noticed TH-cam videos that do this tend to have less views than ones that gloss over everything, I personally love it but the mass short attention span public may not. That is something to consider I think!
gr8!
Hi OJ good video , all l can suggest is you wear a white lab coat with a bunch of pens in top pocket and carry a pointer.. designated dress code for a technician..haha.. look forward to next video
be careful what you wish for...
Packaging is nearly always the biggest struggle when it comes to performance, followed closely by costs.
Awesome video OJ. Keep pushing!
time to make a custom carbon hood with a bump to make space and get that heat out
Sign me up for the FMU University channel. This was great for knuckle dragger like myself. I’m going to assume no question is a stupid question in this class so here goes: Could the same be done with something like a filtered hood scoop ? I’m sure it would be much more work trying to design a hood that keeps with lines of the Mercedes, I’m just curious if you get the same volume of air going that route ?
Don’t apologize for subscribing and likes. It’s all good man. Really enjoy the content OJ.
OJ, Your presentations are awesome!Super informativewith an emphasis on realistic outcomes.
Thank You OJ for another Great Video!
thanks for watching
Great video! I have a 2012 Acura TL SHAWD and want MORE power, what can I, or should I say you, do to the car? Thanks for the great vids...OJ rocks!
Haven't finished it but great video
Hope you enjoy it!
Excited to get exhaust work done by y’all one day on my e55
Great video and explanation of the system. Live your channel!
Just a clarification for @6:41
When he's holding the k&n mass air flow sensor holder and mentions there's not an airflow straightening device, this is incorrect.
That holder uses a cartridge style mass air flow sensor. This type of sensor has its own straightener and very well defined inlet and outlet of the cartridge itself. So it gets an accurate representation of the air flow through that pipe without having to have specific straighteners for the entire pipe. It gets the mass air going through the sensor itself and then the computer will then extrapolate the entire tube getting that same amount of air through it.
This means that on any ECU that uses this style of cartridge mass air flow sensor, if you have the ability to remap the factory tables, you can change the diameter of the tube and then adjust the tables to the new tube diameter.
So it's a benefit. But I mostly wanted to point out that the air flow management for straightening the air going through the sensor itself is located within the cartridge itself and not part of the tube. They're actually are straighteners there which he implies there's not. I know he means there's not straighteners in the tube but I just wanted it to be clear because I thought it was a little unintentionally misleading.
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Good shittttt. Subbed.
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Keep up the work guys. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love E55 w211 and such a detailed analysis, absolute professional, very impressive well done 👍🇺🇸🇦🇺
I would have liked to see the following mods: Bigger TB, a kind of airbox infront of the TB with some kind of velocity stack inside or at least some kind of radius into the TB. I do not like the design of the Y-pipe and to me it does not look optimal. Also it would have been interesting to see a direct comparison with a dyno run with no air filters inside their housings. Cheers.
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O.J., love the video quality and information! I have been subscribed for a long long time . But I will like all the videos on your channel I have time to go back an like .
We appreciate it
Damn this was awesome
OJ getting yoked!
Great solution. Looking forward to the final tune.
Nah buddy,please don't beg,just slide the appeal to "like and subscribe" right on into your normal commentary and folks who respect the content will do what's right.
Please don't beg.
Well done gentlemen.
Test it with just a mushroom filter on the intake
if your roads are not not messy from the winter why not clean the tune up on the street and do a final on the dyno.
26 degrees here today with salt on the roads. We street tune a lot in the summer, not so much in the winter time.
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Sweet vid!
Wondering your thoughts on this. I have an 08 g8 GT. NA L76 6.0L V8… My intake was just a cheap spectra design. I had added a 90° elbow, another 4in. pipe and a K&N filter. Basically a Fender well intake. My tuner said he didn’t see any restrictions. With headers, catless x-pipe no mufflers, the car made 363rwhp/389tq… some other g8 owners think that I may be losing power. They think I should buy the VCM OTR style intake which sits on top of the radiator. It’s a Ram air design. I appreciate any thoughts you may have
Email us a picture and I can get you a better idea.
@@FluidMotorUnion what’s the best email to reach you at?
You guys are fucking awesome
Love it
You guys do great work 🙌. Can’t wait for the next video on this.
More to come!
Remove the supercharger and install a turbo simple solution.
Great stuff
thanks OJ !
You bet! Let us know what else you would like to see.
What about removing the "hood" &/or modifying it to accomodate a bigger intake ? Cosmétics aside any downsides to that ?
the most important part about air intakes is pearl jam (even flow )
Hey, this is really helpful to me. I think I'm dealing with something similar but on a smaller scale with my c32 AMG. I know you have experience with those platforms and I'm wondering if i could ask you a question either here or via email? Thanks for the video!
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Please make more videos thx 😁
Hey oj sup.congrats on your channel, thats cool,wish u the best, wonder if you can help me, ihave a 04 x5 v6 that really need a performance enhancement, is there anything you can recommend, toted of being passed by from other cars with smaler engine, is there a tune or a part i can add or something, appreciate your feedback
Yours
Ayman m safi
Kuwait city
Anything mods delivering noticeable power would cost more than the car is worth.
But if you’re gonna do it - look into the ESS supercharger.
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@@FluidMotorUnion love the whole channel, picking my first e55 up this week!!!
@Aresv_ exciting news!
Is this just a showcase on LSC cars?
Hay oj Can u make e60 m5 1200 hp? Monster? 😏Amg is easy Hp let’s see how close can u get 😋
With enough money and patience, anything is possible...
Thermal conductivity and thermal emissivity are not the same thing.
Price on the custom y pipe for the 92tb if u tend to sell separately or a whole kit ?
Were working out numbers right now should know shortly!
@@FluidMotorUnion ok great , a lot of us have the Stock blower instead of the upgraded shown in the vidoe hopefully u make them for the stock superchargers .
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OJ What air intake system have you built for the C32 AMG I am presently running Needswings air intake on one of my C32's and SL55 AMG on the other, On the vehicle I have the needswings system I have VRP short headers, 64mm SC pulley, ECU tune and I am happy with the performance but would like to squeeze more out of the vehicle. The project vehicle running the SL55 system only has a 64mm SC pulley and no tune at the moment. Plan on installing E85 conversion and 550 cc injectors on the one vehicle that has VRP headers but wondering if I will need to revisit the needswings system as I may run into the same issue. Any pointers?
I also missed I am also running a killer chiller on the vehicle with the most mods, still have to install a trunk tank for that vehicle.
That intake would run into an issue with an aftermarket supercharger. With stock supercharger, depending on level of mods you might see a restriction on the 55.
Based on quick calcs on my end - the 55 seems to be restricted with that intake.
Ultimately you need a dyno for definitive answers. But if you’re interested in an intake - shoot us a message for more info!
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why dont you dyno with intake then just remove it and re dyno
Cause it was Friday at 430 before the holiday weekend 😂. Well dive into it a touch when we see what we can get with e85 and a proper tune!
Good call on it was the end of the day
Can’t wait to see it on e85 with the tune
Thank you so much for trying and testing parts on the m113k set up@@FluidMotorUnion
At 4:21 you said you are all formally trained engineers.
At 11:38 you said you’re not an engineer 🤔
I have trust issues sir
It’s not a trust issue it’s a comprehension issue… 😜
“Not” is mumbled but can be inferred from what’s said… it’s there. We’re just mechanics and won’t claim to be anything other!
Jesus Christ, dude you talk too much cut it in half get to the point😂