Mk8 VW GOLF R Estate - BETTER than the Golf R hatchback?
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In this video I give you a very brief 10 min review of the Mk8 Golf R considering its benefits over the Mk8 Golf R hatchback and its value for money.
I didn't mention that the Golf Estate has 50mm more between the wheels (wheelbase) than the hatch which may equate to more room for rear seat passengers. I didn't mention it because VW's media technical info document only lists width, height, length.
Additional optional equipment on this vehicle:
- Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) - variable suspension settings with choice of modes. Individual mode allows fine-tuning of the dampers with 15 different settings (£840)
- rear-view camera (£310)
- alternative alloy wheels - four 8J x 19-inch 'Estoril Black' with 235/35 R19 with anti-theft wheel bolts (£880)
- panoramic sunroof - electric, glass sliding/tilting including integrated roller blind (£1,165)
- winter pack - heated front seats, heated washer jets and low washer fluid light (£300)
- side airbags - side airbag system for front and rear seat passengers (£360)
- Harman Kardon sound system - 9 speakers, 12 channel amplifier, subwoofer and 480W total output (£660)
Retailer fitted Vodafone S5-VTS GPS Tracker - including 1 year subscription (£540.19 incl. fitting)
Colour and trim: Lapiz Blue (£825) with Black ‘Sardegna’ cloth upholstery;
Price as tested: £50,415.19
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The black wheels look terrible with that blue. Silver wheels and body-colour mirrors please
I have a Lapis Mk7 R, would never do black wheels on it, they get lost in the dark, I have silver pretorias for summer and anthracite 10 spokes for winter. I did my mirrors in carbon fiber.
I agree. Black wheels don’t compliment the color, and silver wheels compliment the silver mirror caps and look well. Did that on my Mk8 R.
What a time to be alive when a humble Golf costs £50k. That is lovely Lexus territory.
I had a Golf R mk7 - great car. So much so that I logically looked at the mk8 R. Didn’t like it at all. Interior did nothing for me and the lack of buttons etc plus the media infotainment system seems to be problematic. In the end, I bought a fully loaded M440i which was £65k new with only 4000 miles on it for the same money as the Golf. I much prefer the looks of the 440 plus the brilliant B58 straight six engine - which does 49mpg on a run and appears to have more power than BMW claim……quite a bit more as it happens……😈😂
£70k for an RS3. Vastly overpriced.
Lovely and lexus dont go together anymore. Overpriced toyotas. Very little difference. Luxury arm is a total stretch now.
@@TheDonshaz GS-F, LC500 territory. 5.0 V8, not a highly strung Chavvy 2.0 Turrrrrbo.
Hatchback every time, but if I needed an estate and had £50k to spend, I wouldn’t choose this.
Hatchback would be £47k specced the same and you'd still pretty much have an R line interior and not even leather
Rather have a used rs6 for that money
Having owned a 7.5 r estate happily for several years I would stick with it and get it tuned than go for this - body shape is nicer but no leather seats nor powered tailgate for £50k - I don’t think they will sell as many of these . My current car is s4 avant b9 - which has more performance headroom and cost 15k less !
Thinking the same w my old B5 A4 Avant…
Mk8 estate looks way to long. Mk7/7.5 way cleaner.
I have a bitdi allroad just now, but a b9 s4 avant is definitely on my radar once they come down in price a bit more 😂😔 they are a great all round car I reckon and quick too. 🔥👍
@@paulhumphreys8500 Yes totally agree. Massive overhang. Imo the 7.5 is a much better looking car and performance wise probably 90% of the MK8 for 50% ( or less) of the price!
Purchased a used 7.5 estate and deliberately chose a lower spec to avoid too many extra motors or electronics having had bad experiences with all this stuff causing problems with other VW group cars.
The 7.5 is a compact estate that’s possible to find parking spaces for and personally I like the looks and the very upright back window.
I found a powered tail gate mainly to be a pain in the A@@ and a big battery drainer when repeatedly using plus lots irritating beeping noises which in the confines of a city isn’t great if one wants to load and unload stealthily.
Is that beeping in the video because the sunroof is opening or notifying the fault.
Silver wheels to compliment the mirrors and roof racks
Can we squeeze the r badge under the vw badge yes just as for the overall look of the car not for me
Good video review as always Andrew.
Don't think you'll see many of these about, whenever they arrive for a UK buyer.
At that price the competition is on a level possibly above what's on offer here.
RS3 and take your pick from the BMW range for example. Good looker but price a tad unrealistic?
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Sorry forget to ask if it still had its plastic/rubber engine cover fitted?
Mine (2020 Mk8 GTI) removed by VW following a recall recently with no replacement in sight as yet.
I didn't look but Polo GTI I tested same day had no cover so assume same here
Blimey Andrew that's some price! If you also specified leather seats, it'd match the price of a 340i Touring Xdrive. Sorry VW, but it's a no from me.....
You’ll have to add a lot of money to the 340i to match the R’s standard equipment though
@@geronimooo260 sure, you can certainly load it with extras. However, (in the UK at least ) most paint colours, 19" alloys, leather upholstery, adaptive dampers, 3 zone climate, are all standard equipment. The interior is in a different league, as is the straight six....
@@geronimooo260 Everything standard on a golf R is standard on a 340i name me one thing that isn’t? You don’t even get leather standard on a Golf. The 340i gets leather.
£50k and you don't even get a leccy tailgate 😳😂 does look nice although not a fan of the black wheels with the other silver trim parts. Overall I think I would prefer a decent spec 7.5 instead though 🔥👌😎
Indeed, I repeatedly kept on looking for the button when I needed to close it.
100% on the black wheel silver trim combination.
AUD80k in OZ fully specced drive away
I think I'll stick with my 7.5 R Estate. (70 plate) I don't have DCC, but do have that glorious sunroof. I can kinda see when you are coming from with the looks Andrew, but I can't see how it looks when I'm driving it. I gave just under 32k for mine in Jan last yr, New it was under 40k. (cheap tax) lol. So for 50k I'd be looking for a little more spec than is offered for that price. Great video and viewpoints as always Andrew.
Am I wrong or did you miss the fact the new estate has a longer wheelbase than the hatch giving much needed increase in rear legroom. One very appealing improvement over the 7 5
I didn't know that, must have the Leon floorpan then as that's longer than Golf
Do the rear dampers bang on the MK 8 like on the MK 7?
Save £5k and get the cupra variant….or in fact don’t bother with either, they’re too expensive….
Would not pay that for a golf which isca skoda octaves rather have skoda save money.
It’s like an arteon r estate that’s been in the hot wash. That’s not a bad thing
Does it have sweeping indicators on the rear? The 7.5 estate didnt
I know cars are getting more expensive but £50k is too optimistic for this. I’m a huge fan of Golfs, and fast estates in general so I should be all over this but it just leaves me feeling completely cold. Massively reduced interior quality versus the 7.5, terrible touch screen, awful VW customer care, electronic and software glitches galore, no powered tailgate (hygiene factor at this price point) and despite some dynamic gains it doesn’t move the game on significantly from the 7.5. And like all Golf Estates, it’s a munter. Ahm‘ oot!
Andrew,
Once again thanks for a great review.
Pricy for sure in this great spec.
I bought 7.5 Estate 6 months after it was launched in UK. Very top spec'd car at Worcester VW was a the dealerships managers car, in Indium Grey, retail price it was £43000,after some consider negotiation I got it for £33000 with £3000 miles on the clock, kept it for a year ,great car for business use at the time.
It will be interesting to see how popular they are in mk8 form but at what retail price for used demo??
Thanks Keith. Yes indeed, let's see what happens if/when they hit the used market in decent numbers, could be a long time yet
Whilst £50K is a lot of money, it is a bit misleading to think of it as a humble Golf. It is a Golf derivative, of course, but then so is the RS3 and a whole bunch of VAG products.
Think i would have a well sorted 7.5 for half the price!
Yep, partly for the value but just as much for the sensible user interface
Wait what? I want one of these!
Base golf Gti new and an old golf estate for the tip runs, and still have 10k plus spare 🤔
Totally get that Gary
Looks like one of those hearse conversions. Not my thing really, prefer a hatch. £50k tho, ouch!
Good looking car.Better than an SUV could well be with all that boot space👍
It's a lot more efficient as well being so much lower to the ground
Looks hot 🔥🔥
7 or 7.5, Don't like the rear of that 8 estate at all.
I don’t think the black wheels goes with the blue paint !
The Seat Leon Cupra R ST (up to 2020) is essentially the same car with much better looks all around and especially with no vertical bar in the rear door windows etc.
Also have DCC as standard, heated seats, hybrid switchgear and full digital dash, beautiful 19 inch wheels and the fantastic optional full pan roof.
With the ABT kit has way more power and performance 🙂
Nice review, Andrew, I was hoping to get a drive of that Golf R yesterday at SMMT but the VW stand was too busy but I did manage to drive the ID4 GTX. I did see you walk by but didn't manage to catch up with you.
Hey Cars For Paul, sorry I missed you. The VW stand was really busy when I wanted to drive the ID GTX luckily 😆 I'll look out for you review but I daren't drive one as I doubt I will find sufficiently GTI like to justify the hype over the dusting off of that ancient GTX badge.
I have a 7.5 Golf GT I really like it but that’s silly money for a Golf. If I wanted an estate I would probably go for an A4 Avant SLine and it would be less money albeit not quite as quick but you’d keep your license for longer! Nice review though.
Wish we could get a wagon in America:/
Surely if your spending that sort of dough on a estate you should be looking at a Audi one.
£51705 gets you an S4 Avant TDI (with no options) which is a fantastic car
If I were looking at £50K I'd find the extra few thousand for an M340i X-Drive Touring, to be honest
Interesting vehicle. I have been driving VWs since 1973, gtis and my Corrado from 83-2017, and a golf sportwagen/estate since 2017. VW doesn't sell sportwagens in the US anymore. But I would love a car like this if it came with a manual transmission.
As you may know Doc, the 8R is available stateside with manual gearbox so you never know
@@volkswizard I know. We like fuel efficient station wagons with manual transmissions, not SUV boxes with automatics. We had a 2009 Jetta Sportwagen and now have a 2015 Golf Sportwagen, a 2017 Alltrack, and my 1992 Corrado SLC. Unfortunately, VW has written off the US and 49 year dedicated customers like myself. We aren't getting any more station wagons and they will stop sending us manuals in 2 to 3 years. After nearly 5 decades of VWs, its over for me.
What’s the difference between this an the Arteon R, Same chassis?
They are both MQB platform so basically yes. I did a similar review on Arteon R shooting brake last year so check that out.
Silly silly money
Just here to show how old I am by recollecting that when I was a kid a new Mark 1 Golf GTI listed at £4799
How much is it now?!
Had the 7 and 7.5R hatch..
Now have 7 estate! Love it!
Do not like black alloy wheels
Do you have any plans to check out the Cupra Formentor 310 on your channel?
I've asked SEAT/Cupra UK and they don't seem to want to lend me cars or invite me to events, they seem to prefer influencers who say 'incredible' a lot and don't criticise anything and who get far fewer views on VWG cars
Looks really nice but way too expensive compared to the similar 7.5 version
Great video Andrew
Looks fabulous and I prefer the estate on looks alone.
It’s been a great pleasure to see your videos and a great pleasure to speak to you. You give great advice and I’m still waiting for my Skoda Fabia 110 Colour Edition!
Similar to you Andy, in 2019 I bought an ex demo (was well specced) 7.5R in Perth, Australia with 1800 miles on the clock for $45,500 (£25,900). So, £50k for some extra luggage space, no leather and no bonnet struts? Yeah nah, thanks though VW....
That sounds like a mega deal for AUS! Let's see what happens to prices when supply increases and the global economy tanks...
Imagine actually getting one. I'm surprised that physical car is there. I ordered a R hatch in March 2021. Still haven't been allocated a build slot.
A review I've been waiting for you to do for ages! I've always thought the Golf R made more sense as an estate than as a hatch - but I'm biased as I've got a 7.5 R Estate (if I'd wanted a hatch, I'd have probably bought a GTi PP).
Noticed there was no space saver spare - cheapskates.... I got a space saver & full kit with the 7.5!
Would I trade my R Estate for the Mk8 version? Not a chance! That Mk8 is specced pretty similarly to mine (Lapiz blue, DCC, 19" wheels, pan roof, premium audio) & I paid nothing like £50k - not even £40k for my 20 plate car (although I did get a good deal, as it was a "pre built" one, to be fair). I was only about £60 per month more than for my old Mk 7 GTD (& that was only about £27k). The options came out at just under £4k, so wondering what else that Mk8 has on it to take it to £6k of options?
The styling? No, I don't particularly like the back of it - a Golf should be as practical as possible, that's the whole point. That swoopy rear end looks a bit "contrived" (reminds me of the Mk6 estate) - it suits something like the Arteon shooting brake, but not a Golf. I like the "boxiness" of the 7/7.5, it says "you CAN have performance as well as the practically of an estate" - for the person that can't justify a separate "weekend" car. I don't think the luggage space is any less than the 7/7.5 though.
The black wheels look "wrong" too, agree with you on that. The Spielbergs I have on mine are decent (even if they aren't as smart as the Brescia 19"s that were a GTi option wheel), match better with the silver trim.
Not a fan of the seats either - light coloured seats are not particularly practical (especially if you have a dog) & the blue trim looks tacky. Not a fan of the integrated headrests, but that's a personal thing (harder to clip on a hammock cover for the back seats, to stop them getting covered in drool & dog hair 🤣).
I can vouch for the capacity of the estate though - managed to get 2 desks & a large storage unit into it from IKEA! It's also had a fridge freezer in the back...
For the sort of cash that VW are looking for for a well specced Golf R Estate, I'd probably just push the boat out & get an Arteon R Shooting brake instead, as I tend to use mine for everyday driving & some long distance runs too.
One final point: I do laugh at how the styling of the premium audio is a "thing" - I really couldn't care less what it looked like (the chrome tweeter surrounds are handy if you're looking at used Golfs online though, at least you can tell if it's fitted!), but the door cards really aren't an issue for me. I wonder if the Harmon Kardon system is as good as the Dynaudio (which is excellent, for a manufacturer system - makes such a difference & I wouldn't be without it)? I also think it works better in the estate than the hatch (I had it in both my Golfs), probably due to the greater interior space).
Excellent review though - helped me make up my mind once & for all to buy my current Golf at the end of the PCP, rather than trade!
Great car Mr. Wizard but not £50k great. I’ll give it 10 years then I might be able to afford one. Good to see you cracking on with the videos 👍🏻
Not a fan to be honest. Much prefer a hatch back. To much money also.
For that money, I'd be thinking year old Volvo V60 T8.
Blacked out spec please love it 🥰
Love the looks of the 8 and so pleased I chose one despite the niggles would love an R if I could afford one but mine would have the silver wheels don’t like the black with the lapiz blue great video as ever andrew
Thanks Daniel, hoping to get silver wheels on my Clubsport soon, watch this space!
Given how heavy it is, would it be better to get a Skoda superb and upgrade the brakes and suspension?
Also how's all the "safety" crap that was problematic on your gti?
The Skoda Superb Estate Sportline I drove in late 2021 had the worst chassis I've ever driven of a modern car so needs some upgrades for sure! The biggest problem I had was traffic sign recognition controlling the cruise control. I switched this off in the end after it sent me to 80mph in a 50mph average speed zone. Now the car annoys me a lot less. Just worrying this new R Estate presumably with latest software logged parking sensor faults on start which my GTI did on the day I collected it 14 months ago. I'd hope that would have been sorted by now
Will they do an akrapovic exhaust
The good thing about a £50k new golf is my 2018 R Estate is holding its value really well!
Great review thankyou..
Thanks for watching!
I love fast estate cars! For me, the black alloys look a bit after market modified. To me it's a bit overpriced, is it that much better then the Cupra Leon estate?
Not driven the new Cupra Leon Estate but new Leon and Octavia both have infotainment setups far more annoying than the Golfs. Leon Cupra is good value or was, if they've gone up 10% too then I give up!
Beautiful!
£50,000 for a Golf is a bit much now. I did hear a while ago silver wheels were coming back into fashion, it would definitely improve the look of the car. Another great informative video from you is always worth the watch.
Thanks Paul, yes silver wheels would work well but the other options is black/diamond cut I think
So happy I take 7.5 😎
Great stuff Andrew. Definitely right about the aluminium look bits . Would look a wholel lot better in gloss black 👍👌
Or fit silver wheels maybe? I don't know, at £45k basic it's all academic anyway!
@@volkswizard it's a hell of a lot of money considering what you paid for the the 7.5R last year .
Ah, Man! Why, oh, why do Americans not like wagons (estates)? I'd seriously consider one of those over the hatch R! Don't like the wheels though with that color. They would be great on a Nardo Grey paint! Great review! Be safe and have fun driving always!
No one in there right mind would pay 50k for a golf
I think I'll keep my 7R estate which I bought quite cheaply some time ago...
And only about £72000 here in Norway, and thats without Akrapovic..... (R-hatchback, not sure if the 22 estate is available)
Proper man prefers a GTI obv ! 👏
sound is a bit weird but other than that great video!
I don’t think it’s worth that kind of money. And if we are at the 50k stage then, in my opinion, that is a different level of consumer that is purchasing a car. And they would just get something even better if that makes sense. Nice video.
Thanks Crocoman!
Golf Mk8 R LONGBOI
Great video. Not a fan of the R estate. Frumpy looking.
Sorry Andrew the R estate is overpriced, they won't sell too many of these at over 50k when fully spec'd,and personally I'm sooo tired of black wheels.
No need to apologise, I have no idea what they are going with pricing and spec these days
I’d buy that spec in a golf estate gtd and minus them black rims and minus 15k at least
A fair number of people in North America would queue to buy this and the Tiguan R but we are not being offered in in Canada or the USA. Have just ( after a 10 month wait) just taken delivery of a Golf R and I would have bought either the TIG R or the Golf R wagon in preference.
Think the Golf R estate will be a rare sight on the roads they only made sense before with a big discount which in todays market is not going to happen. Cloth seats on a 50k press car?
I think they had a £50k budget to spec it judging by how close it was to £50k. Wonder what it will sell for at the main dealer when its defleeted? In the current climate it could be even more as a used car!
I Have a Mk 7 R estate, fantastic car. Cannot come to terms with the looks of the Mk8 or the price!
I like the utilitarian and covert looks of my 7.5 estate plus the squarish tailgate gives good boot space and shape for larger items when required.
110 kg heavier than a 7.5 plus the pano roof which it’s difficult to find an exact weight for but at least 25kg. Lapis blue looks great on the hatch but I think other colours may suite the estate better but of course this is personal preference.
Looked at the Golf R , however after much deliberation I felt the nicer, more tactile interior, and much better finish was for me the bmw M135i xdrive, yes a little more, and little slower but overall, it's a nicer place to be, and fit my MTB in the back..
The Arteon R estate looks better
I like it Andrew but at nearly £15k more than I paid for my fully loaded 7.5 Estate I think I know which I prefer. You can get some quite exotic cars for £50k 😬
I am not sure they want to sell that many Mike, I reckon they want to sell fewer due to emissions but make 2/3 times profit of old 7 and 7.5
@@volkswizard yes, that makes business sense. Plus I guess the don’t want to take too many sales away from other “practical” R models such as the Arteon shooting brake R and Tiguan R.
50K? eeeeer no.
Enjoying the content as always, but 50k for a Golf R is ridiculous - especially when it won't arrive for over a year. Not sold on the looks either. Surely the Leon ST would be a better option - that is surely less, even if I'm not 100% on the looks of that one either!
Retail prices for good cars are now so high. I guess it is all about the monthly cost these days.
I can't see this depreciating gently but I'd love to see the finance deals
Thought you said £130,000 for a golf R haha
That would be crazy, £60k for R 20 from speculators is enough 😬
@@volkswizard what's R 20?
Think you summed up in the last few sentences. I couldn't justify 45k let alone 50k on the mk8 R estate. It's not that much of a step up in real world driving and living conditions compared to the mk7/7,5 estate to warrant the massive price increase
I don't think they want to sell any, not in the UK at least.
@@volkswizard good point, I have a mk7 R estate and was waiting for a review and price with the prospect of changing. It's not something I'm now considering.
BMW M340i xDrive all day long. The Mk7.5 was peak Golf at a reasonable price. £50k for a Golf estate is hilarious.
Oh my word, I had no idea this existed! Buy one and enjoy it for all of us Americans.
Edit: It is gorgeous!!!!
M340 wagon for me. Good review and super you are invited to these junkets.
Thanks David. SMMT drive day can be a lot of chat and coffee drinking or hard day's work. I go for the latter as it's a priceless opportunity to get new content and try new angles e.g. the Alpine A110 video. Must try some BMWs next year :)
@@volkswizard you are in your own niche i would say. Keep up the good work. 👍
I'll take a well specced nearly new Arteon R shooting brake instead thanks
To get nearly new someone has to buy them new and I doubt Arteon R is that much better value brand new is it?
@@volkswizard Arteon seem to be much better specced than the golf. Leather, electric tailgate etc
Where are car manufacturers getting these prices from? I realise this is the sport model and where the fun is at but who can afford one. Now the comments light up with I can I can! If one leases the car in whatever way it costs more than just buying outright. Maybe I'm missing something, maybe salaries haven't kept up but it seems a sad time for people that see cars as more than just A to B transport.
Absolute madness, 50k for a golf these days. I would want leather seats for that price tag!!!
Hmmmmm, pricey.....🫤
Not a fan of the looks especially rear; much prefer the 7/7.5
Sure it's great, but £10k overpriced and that 'R' badge is awkwardly placed on the tailgate!
This is 15K overpriced, at least. Even at £35k, I don’t think this is a particularly great deal.
test it against the shooting brake R...
I don't think VW have one on fleet now, too much demand from retail customers and no need to promote much these days with press cars as waiting lists are so long.
Jesus, £50K for that - it’s crazy what new cars cost now. Brand new and it already looks cheap and dated. The Leon equivalent looks much better to me.
How disrespectful, off the back of the hatchback golf r you say similar to the r-line!! There is also no sense in why you'd have a gti over an R. I think you must secretly like the R cos no man woman or child would have a gti over the R & very few would have the estate R. What's your thought on the 20 edition? Don't tell me you'd rather have an R-Line🙊
Covered this so many times before but R has very little on GTI apart from in a straight line drag race. After that all that weight penalty slows it down especially in the dry. R is very much like R line inside and even outside, not opinion, fact. As for 20 year Golf R, I’ve really not taken much notice which kind of says it all. I’m not a fan of GTI 45 either BTW
V W drivers are loyal to the brand. All sense goes out of the window...lol
I do like many estates, such as Audis and BMW but find the looks of the Golf a little bit ordinary.
I can’t get passed the price tag… looks great but surly a used 7.5 for Half the price is the way forward
passed lol
Why would you buy this instead of an M340i?? Bigger, faster, more economical, better interior, better engine and gearbox, better infotainment, leather interior, similar kit. I went from an R to an M340i, its better in every possible way. Cheaper to insure and 35mpg is dreamland to an R.
No golf is worth £50k
Audi S4 or M340i money so i dont think so lol