Poppy killed not only for a good podcast, but to frame Cinda so she could finally break free from Cinda. She was only framing the trio because that would look like something Cinda would do. She confided in Mabel because she wanted Mabel to think poorly of Cinda and wanted the trio to think Cinda was the killer
This is such a great explanation 👏👏 but I have a question by the time the police took the trio downstairs to the police car how was Poppy already there? She even had a mask on her face and she wasn’t covered in blood at all. What could have she done within those minutes
The Becky butler reveal should have happened in reverse. They should have gotten the fingerprints back identified as a dead girl and the team should have pieced the clue together to figure out that poppy was Becky Butler!
I’ve seen all the episodes, if you look at detective kreps in the last episode, you can see how he is digging. I’m guessing it’s the matchbook. Question: where was the matchbook? I’m curious to know, that if it was in bunny’s apartment, was there information about the Rose Cooper painting hidden inside?
Yeah. I also don't understand why Poppy had to spit it out by herself. It is unnatural considering that she probably didn't want to reveal her own murder.
Season 2 was so good, the pacing was great and you wouldn't even realise it was filmed during covid. The finale was personally very dissapointing, it was very rushed and no flashbacks. Also it felt unfinished. How does Poppy just 'find' the secret passageway, and it felt quite dissapointing. Im hoping they fill in some blanks bc there is a lot.
Another little nitpick during the reveal scene that I don't think anyone has brought up - how did Poppy know that there was a girl (Lucy) in the catacombs. Poppy accidentally said it out loud during the reveal party, and it was what helped everyone realize she was the killer. Except in the flashback, Poppy/hooded person only heard a noise in the tunnels. When she didn't see anyone, she gave up looking for the source of the noise.
@@WastedPo Maybe because Lucie told the policeman during the blackout that she was being chased by the killer in the secret passage. Poppy must have made the connection and thought that Lucie had to be present on the day of the murder. 🤔 Poppy must have heard about the secret passage while following the investigation. But I admit that I would like to know more too. Too bad there weren't enough flashbacks.
Your podcost is the only one I will watch. This is because of your delivery, you content is great, but your voice is perfect. I like listening to your voice, it is paced well, not too excited, measured, no fillers, is melodic, and displays the right amount of enthusiasm. Good job.
I do too. While watching the finale, the reveal was entertaining enough. But in retrospect, it's hard to fully comprehend how Poppy knew about the catacombs, why she felt it was necessary to brutally kill someone, what possible advantage it was to reveal her true identity to Mabel... etc.
I remember reading a mystery some years ago about a man murdered in his locked bedroom. He wore some sort of decorative belt and the murderer added an extremely sharp knife to the belt. When the man synched the belt, the knife stabbed into his abdomen. The knife was so sharp the man barely felt the pain, and when later he loosened the belt the knife dislodged and the man bled to death. I don't remember specific details, but the murder method has always stuck with me.... and totally came to mind seeing Paul rudds trench coat.
that's random but i was reading a mystery book and the victim had been stabbed but the knife was nowhere to be found and the main character came to the point seeing water next to victim that the knife was made of ice so it didn't leave any clues
Only Murders In The Pod has one of finale writers on. He said that the reason Poppy text the trio at the end of season One after she called the police, was to have the trio seen running out of the building therefore making it look like they were running away from the crime scene. He also said that Jan poisoned Winney.
Voting for either Steve or Martin is a disservice to both actors and performances. They are so different and yet equally great. Can this be the first Emmy tie??? Seriously.
I honestly thought the reveal felt really rushed, Love the part in murder mysteries when we get the flashbacks to earlier scenes once the killer's outted and we see just how they did it which didn't happen here. The killer's motive felt convoluted and arbitrary. I like this show but I felt like it's a way better comedy than a murder mystery and the reveal was rushed to make time for season 3 set up. Love your videos though, I've been watching these right after watching the show all season long and it's been fun theorizing with you guys. Keeping hopes up for a fair play mystery for season 3. Thanks and see you next season :)
Overall, I liked season 2 more than season 1, as I found the pacing, character development and twists to be better. However, the plot holes with Poppy being the killer are the weak points for me, such as why would Poppy volunteer her real identity to Mabel as that would implicate her in the mayor's arrest, or stab someone she barely knew 8 times in the hopes of getting a promotion. If Poppy had no issue killing someone, you'd think her target would be Cinda, as she would just simply take over the show with Cinda gone. As for loose ends, there are quite a few this season as well, and I'm hoping that maybe the show-runners would create some short stories to address them, and they could also use this to provide more insight into the background of some characters they didn't have enough time in the season to explore. For example an "OMITB: Loose Ends" short to explain 1) the Lucy & Charles photo in Kreps' bag & who was the intended target, 2) who Bunny hired to forge the Rose Cooper, 3) the real reason why Bunny gave Ivan so much money, 4) who the diamond ring Tim bought was for, 5) who poisoned Winnie, and 6) who wrote the note on Jan's door. I would also like to see an "OMITB: Charles Sr, Rose & Leonora Love Triangle", and an "OMITB: A Day in the Life of Howard Morris" would be fun. Like others have mentioned, the finale does feel rushed. I've always thought the person who sneezed in the passageways sounded like a man, and nothing like Poppy at all. The scene where Poppy tells Kreps she learned about the secret passageways seems to be added in as a voice-over, and I'm wondering if they had actually shot multiple endings with different characters as the killer, and based on how the fans reacted after the first 6 or 7 episodes, decided on who the real killer would be through editing. Edit: Also wanted to add how much I enjoyed the music and the its arrangement this season. I think not enough has been said about how impactful the music score has been in bringing out the emotion in the various scenes. The ones I particularly liked are: 1) piano solo at the end of ep1 when Charles discovers the painting in his apartment, 2) Billie Eilish's "You should see me in a crown" when Mabel takes apart Alice's sculpture in ep2, 3) what I call Lucy's theme when she recollects her arrival at the elevators in the Arconia in ep4, and 4) what I call Mabel's trauma theme when she starts flipping over the puzzle pieces towards the end of ep7.
Someone claims the showrunner said "Get out of the building" was meant to have them rushing out of the building while the cops rushed in -- to make the Podcast 3 look guilty - fleeing the scene of the crime Not exactly clear on the show
Still so many questions for me. 1. How did Bunny get the painting from Rose Cooper? 2. How does Poppy know about the painting and that Bunny has it? 3. Who did the reproduction and why? (ex, did Bunny have it done after Poppy was asking about it and Bunny suspected Poppy might steal it?) 4. Are we to assume it was Poppy who poisoned Winnie, and left the notes for Jan and Oliver in Sea1? 5. Did Poppy somehow know Jan killed Tim Kono? 6. How did Poppy get Bunny into Mabels house? 7. Why would Poppy tell Mabel her true identity? 8. But my bigger issue is now with Poppys complete continuity timeline. I tried to write out what Poppys complete timeline of events would be based on Sea 1 and Sea 2 and I couldnt do it. Ill try to explain, but it probably wont sound right. If you watch the post show "One Killer Question" the Poppy actress implies that Poppy moved to NY after meeting and getting involved with Kreps because "moving to NY with nothing is impossible". So, if that is true, then that means when Poppy goes to meet Cinda the first time to ask for a job and proposes the idea of doing a podcast based on Becky going missing in OK, she has already meet and gotten involved with Kreps and moved in with him in NY. For that to happen, that means Poppy has already met Kreps (most likely from when he went to OK to make more money and work the missing Becky case) and worked with him to do whatever manipulation they did with local OK policy on Becky being missing. Then, going back to the first time Poppy talks to Cinda, Poppy proposes the podcast for someone "missing", not killed. Then Cinda tells Poppy if the case were a murder, then she would be interested. But, Poppy and Kreps have already done their stuff in OK and are now in NY. But now Poppy needs to turn it from a missing case, into a murder case so Cinda will do it. So how does that happen? Do Poppy and Kreps then go back to OK and work on framing the Mayor for the murder, in a case with no body and no weapon? And then there are the scenes where Cinda, Kreps and Poppy are all at the Chicken Chug. We know Cinda is not aware when she does the "OK podcast" that Poppy is Becky and set up the whole Becky case with Kreps' help, right? So when all three are at the Chug, that has to be once it was a murder, evidenced by Cinda being there and now doing the podcast, and not when Poppy first meets Kreps when hes there on the case when its just "missing". I just cant make sense of what Poppy did step by step, and when she did it, and with who. Also forgot. Did the show address the person breaking into Charles house during the blackout episode? Are we to assume it was Poppy? If not, then Kreps? And what was the persons purpose of the break in? Lucy was there, but if the person was after Lucy, how would they know she was even there?
didn't u pay attention?Leonora bought the painting from Rose Cooper then it was passed to Bunny.Poppy did a research as we know in Rose Cooper and found out she was alive in episode 9 Rose talks about a girl who was asking for the painting so maybe Rose told her that she didn't have it and Bunny does.Many famous pieces of art have copies for example mona lisa there is the original but also copies and we don't care who made the copy it doesn't matter.About Winnie we don't know who poisoned her and Jan left the note to Oliver but the note in Jan's door was probably by Howard cause he told the trio he knew jan was the murderer you have so many questions we don't care about Poppy knowing that Jan was the murderer Tim's and Bunny's murders are not connected.Poppy told Mabel her true identity so that the trio will suspect Cinda
I actually guessed Poppy and her motive by the end of Ep.9. BUT I was still so disappointed in this finale for many reasons and felt like there were many holes and loose ends left from both seasons. Your comment made me realize just HOW MUCH MORE nonsensical the Poppy story is than I even thought originally. Shoot - just the fact that no one at this small town’s main hang out spot would recognize her just because she now has long hair and glasses is ridiculous. Who is she - Clark Kent?
Poppy at one point also suggests to cinda canning about doing a podcast on the disappearance of Rose Cooper and the painting thst Rose had done. It was in an episode when cinda was mocking Charles for saying "we are all Tim kono" as she listened to the only murders in the building podcast. Cinda would have listened to that podcast when the trio recorded it last year. As cinda was eager for new podcast material poppy made the Rose Cooper suggestion as the story was well known and associated with the arconia and that rose Cooper lived across the street from the arconia and the Folgers. Poppy researched everything.
I don’t understand how poppy can go back to her hometown with a new haircut and glasses (Superman) and no one recognizes her when everyone is looking for her.
I'm actually glad the killer was Poppy not Cinda because the motive would not have been as strong. The Killer Reveal Party was hilarious and one of my favorite scenes. I like that for season 3 the victim is a completely new character so we get to learn everything. What we know right now is that Been appears to have been poisoned and only suspect we have for the now is Charles. My questions right now are 1. Who is the "her" Charles was referring to...perhaps Lucy? I felt like that might be her step-dad. 2. How is Ben(Paul Rudd) connected to the Arconia?
This is an attempt to answer Cat;s questions: 1. A copy exist because Bunny didn't want the original to be stolen. She knew Poppy wanted it. 2. How and why did Poppy know about the painting. I had that question too. Poppy was a good researcher, she was intrigued by Rose Cooper's disappearance and found out about this painting in the process. My guess would be she found out through Ursula. Ursula mentioned to Oliver that there was someone who was questioning her about the trio. 3. Again, I think she found out through Ursula. Ursula makes it a point to know about everything that goes on in the Arconia. 4. Why did Amy S. appear at all? Dunno. Maybe they were thinking of using her more, but they changed their minds? 5. I think Poppy did it, because she wanted the podcast to stop, and she was trying to scare them, or break Oliver's heart, so he would want to stop. Now why did Poppy reveal who she really was? Poppy was good about plotting and planning, but not so good about thinking on her feet. She did not expect Mabel to show up at the studio. She was making a feeble attempt to implicate Cinda, other than herself, because Mabel knew that their previous podcast was connected.
The Butler Did It....classic! I'd love to know/see: How Poppy found that knife in Oliver's Theatre Museum Apartment, there is quite a lot of stuff in there? Why was the fake painting put up on the wall in Charles apartment? Unless you were going to bust in and catch him immediately then it would be likely he'd find it and take it back down to hide it as he would also do with the knife. Why did Ursula throw that box of files away so suspiciously, both in action and in placement? Did anyone inform the real Lenora (even with her health issues) that her daughter had died? What inspired Becky to choose the name Poppy White? I would have liked to see how Bunny and Poppy made it over to Mabel's apartment, it just feels less complete to skip around the details of the murder. Is season 3 going to be called "... and also Murders on Broadway" ? Did Marv ever solve the 6th avenue slasher, maybe he should start his own podcast? Why doesn't anyone die on 3rd? I bet that is where the killer lives. What the heck is that thing on top of Nina's Arconia 2.0 mockup? How many numbers does Uma think are in 911??? LOL This is plenty for now, I'm sure I'll think of something else.... Love your channel!
Glad someone finally mentioned how ineffective framing was. If Kreps was in on it, why din't he do anything like raid their places based on an "anonymous" tip and catch them with the incriminating planted evidence? I'm guessing there must be a myriad of ways to actually catch them with all the framing and with the LEAD DETECTIVE ON YOUR SIDE.
In Marv fashion I’d say the podcast only cover Murders IN the building. And occasionally on Broadway. Every once in a while on Coney Island. Really the whole city is a stomping grounds for content, but they strongly prefer murders in the building
In the after-show One Killer Question, the actress who plays Poppy states she won in a certain way because she got what she wanted. If it was the choice between living this abusive life in Oklahoma and having done these incredible things. She’d pick the recognition she thought she deserved. She then states that her character killed Bunny because she was an easy target and it could make a good story if the 3 of them murdered Bunny. Kind of how the mayor killed Becky made a good story. She states that Poppy is very smart but she is over emotional. In the end her heart sabotaged her mind because Cinda pushed her buttons enabling a panic attack.
My guess for season 3 killer is the lady at the end who said, “Break a Leg!” I noticed the fog in the picture in the end credits. I think you’re into something about the fog being poisonous. 🌫
I came to this play to watch Ben Glenroy -- he died at the beginning. Then the play was canceled. This is an opening night ticket that I paid HUNDREDS for!!! I can't get another night off. Who wants my ticket to the follow up show?
Thank you so much! The show requires a whole lotta suspension of disbelief BUT it's the characters that keep me hooked. Despite its flaws, I'm so happy there will be a season 3.
A little theory I have before I watch the video: I think the "her" Charles talks about with Ben is Jan. It makes sense for her to be important for Charles as Charles has a complicated relationship with her and it also makes sense given that Mabel, Lucy and Charles' stylist/new girlfriend are all happy and excited (which doesn't match the seriousness of what Ben did based on Charles' delivery of the line).
but Charles put sazz to end their relationship i don't think Jan will appear again and Charles has a new gf zoey i don't remember her name so why is he warning Ben to stay way from Jan? But in season 1 Tim was poisoned,the cat was and Charles so maybe if there was poison in the fog or something they will someway connect season 1 with season 3
I don't see OMITB as a murder mystery per se. It has a murder and murderer, that drives the plot, but it is rich in comedy and in some very touching moments. I love the show and the characters!
Very fun season and season finale. Appreciate the hustle to put these videos together DPM!! While I'd have loved being right about motive, story, etc. I almost love it more to be fooled by a great mystery. The big reveal party, head fake with Charles' death, Howard dramatics, Lester's acting chops, were all so fun. Self deprecating comment by Oliver about this not feeling like a finale yet was very self aware and what we likely were all thinking. I agree on the fog being fatal. As for the "her", what about Charles' new make up artist girlfriend? He was mean (something to her) and she did something to the makeup that only someone in her industry would have access to? Otherwise, I could see the "her" being Mabel or Lucy. Maybe we haven't met the "her" yet. Great ride Arconiacs!! See you next season. Now on to House of the Dragon.
In the after-show One Killer Question, the actress who plays Poppy states she won in a certain way because she got what she wanted. If it was the choice between living this abusive life in Oklahoma and having done these incredible things. She’d pick the recognition she thought she deserved. She then states that her character killed Bunny because she was an easy target and it could make a good story if the 3 of them murdered Bunny. Kind of how the mayor killed Becky made a good story. She states that Poppy is very smart but she is over emotional. In the end her heart sabotaged her mind because Cinda pushed her buttons enabling a panic attack.
I'm in the "disappointed" camp bc unlike season 1, I thought it had potential to be a more complex mystery--even if I had no way of finding out who the killer actually was--I'd be fine with that. They dropped a few "clues" that either were never explained OR only had the most boring (or zero) explanation at the end (the painting, the sneeze, arcatacomb access etc.). I wish they could've just written something a little more "shocking" and make it make sense! Here are some "seemingly clues" that I am frustrated weren't addressed. For example: First and foremost: (1) Why have Mabel say at the end of Season 1 AND in Bunny's Last Day episode mention about Tim Kono's murder that there are "loose ends?" Even if I had no way of guessing, I wish they would have cleverly connected the murders somehow. Personally, I thought there might be room to do so with the whole "artist" mastermind thing AND a theme about people faking deaths that Tim Kono somehow faked his death. It also seemed plausible because of his allergy to cats (I think) and the sneezing clue. Additionally, a motive could be he seemed to be involved in collecting jewelry beyond what he needed for the Emerald ring (or the diamond ring) and could have been using the passageways to traffic goods--be connected to some larger crime ring that either Bunny was in-on or knew about. (2) Another dropped clue was some narration, like Charles during the Bunny episode saying Bunny was a "NY classic-treasure trove of stories, secrets, and forgotten wisdom” and “Bunny always put the Arconia first - and that didn’t always make her popular, even among the people she cared for.” Again--why that narration when she's about to get murdered, but never talk abotu the secrets she knows or putting the Arconia first and being unpopular? Seemed like a wasted opportunity of some tie-in to either her murder OR some other sub-plot. And (3) As others have mentioned--we're supposed to believe that Alice randomly shows up in Mabel's life, thinks she's "helping" Mabel by betraying her and using her trauma, and then just gives her a "gift" that magically reveals the murderer's connection to the All is Not OK? Just too many coincidences to not have some connection to ANYTHING. Okay, I'll stop there on season 2 and interested to hear other's thoughts...But just want to say that for Season 3, I'm just lowering my expectations about it being a clever murder mystery. As for Season 3's killer--I think it's Joy (makeup lady love interest) because in the finale she brushed Charles' face and he started acting how he did after Jan poisoned him (so maybe Joy gave him a little poison) and she has a motive as EITHER the "she" Charles is referring to OR if the "she" is Lucy--to protect Charles' interests Joy acts as a psycho girlfriend who does too much (Charles has bad luck with lady loves). Thanks for reading and if you didn't read--for the space to vent!
UGH! And the "14 Savage" meant NOTHING until the characters POINTED TO IT on the menu--not even giving us a second to figure it out. so frustrating! I hope they give the fans what they want and get a Sherlock-level writer in there for the mystery part and leave the comic writers as is.
Well the reason that the show doesn’t mention alibis or more clues or fair motive is because it is supposed to be a cozy mystery that features more about characters and their lives then more on the clues and motives!
There was a moment when Poppy and Krepes were in the same room together and she made eyes at them. My third or fourth time watching the episode is when I noticed it lol 😂
Thanks for all that you do to bring us this podcast! I appreciate the fair-play-murder mystery filter you bring to examine the episodes even though the show doesn't follow the formula. The only thing I found disappointing about the season was Poppy's ambition motive didn't feel complete. That has less to do with the solvability of the case and more to do with writing and editing choices IMO. So, I vote to keep doing the fair-play approach for next season.
I enjoyed the finale! Season 2 was different from S1, but I think it makes sense. This show feels like it should be around for at least 4 or 5 seasons, the second season was excellent at attaching us to each character emotionally! As far as Poppy being the killer. I agree with almost everyone, we needed a longer episode to really flush that out. But overall, the episode was enjoyable
I know I’ve mentioned here that I enjoy season one more, however, season two tied into one in an amazing stroke of writing brilliance. I figured two late that season one had more significance; I knew Everything is Not OK in Oklahoma. This series is remarkable.
Plot twist: Marv’s daughter is in the production and that’s why Charles is protection from Ben. Marv isn’t the killer, but that’s the direction the show wants us to lean next season (apart from suspecting Charles, of course) because the poison IS in the fog. Since Marv cleans mold from buildings, we’re led to believe he also employed similar chemicals, aerosolized them, and killed Ben. It won’t be Ben, of course, it will be Howard’s love interest from S2 who killed Ben because he believed Ben stole the role from him. Idk - I have been so off with every other prediction that this one is as good as any 🤣
omg omg yall are so ready to find the murderer without context or clues someone on reddit said it would be sazz when we don't know anything yet but it would be interesting to see the investigation being involved around the theatre place/people
@@cookiesandmilk686 lol it’s really a satirical crazy theory of the day. I feel like that’s all I was working with ep to ep the past two seasons so why not throw one out for S3 🤣 It was Mrs. Gambolini who poisoned Ben through his wig glue for calling her a parakeet. She’s clearly a parrot! 😜
I feel as if Ben Glennly died from lead poisoning in his makeup due to how he fell in the show, which would mean that it was most likely a makeup artist or another cast member who put lead into the makeup which lead to it seeping into his skin. It also couldn't have been the fog on stage because Charley came onto the stage to check on Ben and how Charley most likely would've also breathed the air off stage as well
I was so unsatisfied with Becky/Poppy as the killer. It really doesn’t make sense or answer anything of how did she know about the secret passageways? Y did she have to kill Bunny? There just way to many plot holes this season with Becky/Poppy being the killer. I’d rather it have been Nina,Howard,Ursula,Alice,Cinda,or Rose because there motivates would have been more believable
Who killed Ben Glenroy? My radical theory? Nobody. He isn't dead, there's been no murder, this is all part of the act. Having the theater audience think an actor's just been murdered onstage is just the sort of tacky, over-the-top hoopla that Oliver Putnam would come up with. But why do I think this? Mainly because of the show's title and what it means. Only Murders *in the Building*. Our heroes' podcasts only cover murders within the Arconia. This does not appear to be within the Arconia. If it isn't, then this won't be the murder being investigated next season. Of course, it could turn out that the theater is within the Arconia. I've read that some of these big, fancy apartment buildings the Arconia is based on did have theaters within them, in which case my theory is wrong. So either this theater is within the Arconia, or this won't be the murder being investigated next season, and if the latter's the case, then the most likely reason is because this murder is part of the show.
I don't know....I feel like even Oliver would be more sensitive than to just subject Mabel to that even if an act would be pretty traumatic for his friend i'd think...unless the friends in the audience are part of the show?
My favorite line was the killer reveal party gag Anyone else feel bad for Poppy/Becky? She seemed to be tossed around by her father and her old and current boss A part of me is glad Kreps thought she was the genius and not Cinda Canning Though they both deserved to go to jail
I think Alice wanted to take advantage of Mabel's trauma, acting like she's above the #BloodyMabel trending topic when she wanted to use that as a basis of her art show, to the point where she recreated everything
oh also I really really really hate alice. I know they deliberately did not show her in the s3 preview so they could write her out and thats what im gunning for. from the beginning she was EXTREMELY creepy with mabel, referring to her as "fascinating" despite only knowing of her trauma, and treated her like an art piece instead of a human being. imo once she got as far as making weird videos depicting a murder that happened like less than a month ago, in mabels own apartment, she lost the right to breathe the same air as mabel and if they are in a relationship come s3 I will make it my personal goal and duty to singlehandedly tank her character's ratings. she can come back as a villain tho thats permitted
Yes thank you. I despised her character, she was so pointless as well. Why couldn’t they have kept Oscar? I disliked her from the start but hated her after she tried to re create Tim’s murder. I think she was only brought on to the show because Cara is friends with Selena Gomez.
Emmy vote Marty short hands DOWN! Not that Charles isn’t great but, there were some really outstanding moments with Oliver: 1) with his young son during the son of Sam episode explaining his tells 2) the whole thing with teddy in the elevator and after 3) the last episode with will when he tries to confess he’s not his father and will says he knows his dads tells. 4) with detective Williams baby 😂 I dunno but some moments with Oliver really pulled at my heart. Like, they were a perfect mix of funny and sad.
That whole Poppy telling Mabel who she was didn't make sense at all. I don't know what the gain would've been from Poopy's perspective. Unless it was just to make Cinda look bad. But it would've gotten Poppy in trouble either way. She allowed the mayor to go to prison knowing full well he didn't commit murder. I liked the finale but I think they missed the mark on some of the details.
Exactly. Having the world know that you faked your death and then assisted on a podcast that investigated that fake death... Poppy would gain infamy, and maybe that's what she really wanted.
I really thought that Ben Glenroy (Paul Rudd) was glitter guy/the killer but it turns out he was going to be the next victim. Can't wait to see one of my favorite avenger in my favorite show for season 3 😃😃🐜
To answer your question about Charles' father being in and out of jail. Based on what Rose told Charles, it sounds like he went downhill after she went into hiding and they lost touch. But that raised another question for me: if Charles was able to find Rose via the address hidden in his father's watch, why couldn't his father? I'm assuming he's the one that put it there.
I had the same question regarding the knife, why plant evidence with your finger prints on it? Why plant evidence at all, if the cops never show up and there is plenty of time to get rid of it? Why tell them your real name? This was a gruesome murder for money/fame. Bunny was right, the podcast was BAD news!!! It is still a blast to watch. It is more of a spoof of a murder mystery, then an real murder mystery.
the knife had saliva not fingerprints and poppy was playing with them putting evidence in Charles' house also Poppy said she was Becky cause she wanted to lead the trio to Cinda which seems to work at first
I am excited for season 3, but I wonder how they are going to tie Ben Glenroy's details back to the Arconia. If they don't then the podcast the trio make isn't about only murders in the building.
@@cookiesandmilk686 My guess is he took over the penthouse from Amy Schumer, and like Thomas said, maybe he was poisoned at the Arconia? Maybe from poisoned gut milk!
@@jt279 yes but he wasn't introduced as Paul but as Ben so maybe in the series he isn't a famous actor i have thought of what u said tho.About the gut milk idk someone on reddit said that maybe it was something in the fog and Ben was allergic to that so he died
I thought season 2 was fantastic! I really enjoyed the finale and laughed out loud a lot. I absolutely loved how the reveal went this season. Leading us to believe it’s Cinda at the end of episode 9 into 10, then Mable calling Alice out and her STABBING Charles! That made me gasp that was a genius move to add in. Then ultimately Poppy being exposed. I feel satisfied with this finale and the answers we got. I still wish we know who poisoned Winnie (maybe it was Jan and she lied.. but I don’t see her lying about that when she planned on killing Charles anyways) I truly think the writers saw people’s reaction to Amy Schumer being cast and decided to cut her role back…lol. I do wish we got flashbacks to seeing poppy killing Bunny and in Mable’s apartment but I’m not dying over it. (no pun intended) I’ve enjoyed your videos every week and appreciate the work you put in!!
@@DoublePMedia I’ll be back next season for sure! Seriously you did great every week and made it fun. So your work isn’t going I noticed or unappreciated!
Really enjoyed this season and your videos to every episode! For my final theory I had Poppy beeing the killer and even thought that Cinda didn’t know that Poppy was Becky, making her the mastermind and the brilliant woman Kreps kept talking about. However, just like last season, my correct prediction only came after watching the second to last episode. I believe Poppy told Mabel who she really is to make it seem as if Cinda “kidnapped” her and fabricated the whole story while keeping her “hostage” and working for her, showing Mabel to what lengths Cinda would go to to have a story to tell. What do you think? As for the question as to how she knew about the passage ways? No Idea. Did she find them while researching for the podcast during the first murder? Did Kreps get her plans to the building so that she could plan her murder as well as possible and discovered them that way? Also, what sense does it make to plant evidence in the trios’ apartments if you don’t have your boyfriend bust in there with police to find it and frame the Trio even more?? Plus, by texting the people you are trying to frame to get out of the building, you’re giving them an alibi!! “Brilliant woman” my a** Kreps. Furthermore, do we know who followed Lucy during the blackout? Was it Poppy, Marv, Kreps? So many questions….
I didn't think Poppy was that compelling of a character so I'm just glad the plotline is done. Also, how can you have someone die outside the building if the show is called Only Murders In The Building? I'm worried they're expanding the world without thinking about what makes the show great is the confined cast of colorful characters. Like no Oscar or Theo past a spotlight ep? Were they taking a nap?
I haven’t agreed with you all season about how Howard had the funniest lines. He was okay but not that funny to me, but I’ll give him credit this episode. I laughed at most everything he said
I bet Marv bragged to the other super fans how his loyalty to OMIT-B payed off and he got to see the trio take down the killer. I’m also very glad that Marv wasn’t the killer.
There’s really no point in trying to solve the murder till season 3 episode 9. That’s the OMITB MO. There are so many things that happen that the writers don’t address. I thought it was frustrating in season one but now the loose ends are just lazy writing, anticlimactic and to be expected. I was disappointed in the finale. We should have learned how Alice knew that the OK podcast was a factor. I liked some parts (mainly Howard and Alice) but I’m realizing that the show is just funny. It’s not going to be juxtaposed with a dark, elaborate mystery. It would be truly fantastic if it was. I think they tried harder this season but missed the mark. Oh well.
hidden clues existed this season just because u didn't notice it doesn't mean that they didn't...cause u said that the killer will always be found at episode 9 the clues were leading from the start to the Cinda-Poppy direction many suspected Cinda but it was actually poppy if u want examples i can give u
So Poppy ran away from Oklahoma, changed her hair, and went back after she started working for Cinda?? and nobody recognized her?!!! what in the Hannah Montana is going on here!!!
Maybe the one who poisoned Ben and Winnie are the same person... Maybe Poppy talled Maybel that she was Becky to frame Cinda , so the trio would think that it was Cinda's idea to fake Becky's death and get the success. I'm curious how they are gonna shoot the 3 season, I personally imagine the story line going back and forth and revealing the past and connecting it to the present
I found this season underwhelming. I don't like that they retconned the relationship between Poppy and Kreps. I would've also liked to actually see and understand what he was doing. They should've linked Poppy and the painting earlier, because how would she know about it? Introducing her backstory so late makes me not want to care about her or her intentions. Also it's just less riveting when killing Bunny was impersonal - Jan's crime of passion was fun and gave it time for the trio to try to stop her. We at least got the bulk of an episode of Evil Jan, whereas Poppy was revealed and arrested almost instantly. Oh and Mabel giving Alice a second chance was pretty barf after what Alice did
Ben's killer is a new character that the audience develops compassion for & wants to see more of & learn more about, a charming sidekick, even an audience surrogate. In short, the killer is the most likeable supporting character in the show, and their victim is very unlikeable.
I thought the finale episode for season two was very entertaining. One question I have is was Kreps sleeping with Cinda and then left her for Poppy? Or just sleeping with them at the same time? We see that Kreps is looking back and then the camera moves to Cinda, who appears to be looking back at him. Then we see that Poppy is looking at Kreps making us believe he is really looking at Poppy. When the trio were revealing who the killer was, they said that Cinda and Kreps had sexual tension and Cinda didn't deny it.
The explanation for the text message is that they were supposed to be running out of the building when the cops showed up. They would look super guilty and all get arrested for murdering Bunny.
You mention the moon in the opening credits but there are also fireworks... Which they shows in the opening scene of season 2 when Charles is walking down the street and appears to be heading for a fall into a manhole. He ends up in the interrogation room. I wonder if this is a forshadow to the third season and if Charles will end up in the irrigation room to start this season once again.
I love the character development and seeing there background which writers focused on more I thought ending was poor to be be honest it did not fully make sense poppy knowing the secret passage ways when the residents didn’t know any she came and went as she liked and the 14 sandwhich they made that sound like a major clue but really it was a throw away I did like how each character could be a suspect at the party but it was lazy writing for a conviction
Well Season 2 is ending. I have just one episode left but certainly this was a season which bit more than it can chew. Now the core plot, the one that leads to the murder is good. That's a good center but unlike Season 1 the sub plots are loose. They are just diversions which lead away from the mystery. As I had mentioned the angle of rival podcast was good and in the end the makers saw the wisdom and made it the raison d'être of the Season 2. But the sub plots were definitely weak. The back and front story of Charles, his step daughter Lucy, Clara track with Selena, the painting and new board President track were either too unconvincing or underutilized, pulling the story in many different directions. They painting angle and board presidency were certainly not utilized well. In Season 1 the plot was grounded. It focused well on James Kono and Arcania and the incident that happened 10 years ago. Here the audience is deliberately taken on many detours. Well the last episode is here but I have to say that it does feel as convincing as a mystery should. In a murder mystery you have to convince the audience. While Season 1 did so as an older Jan did not want Tim Kono to leave her for a younger man here the motivation does not seem strong enough from what I seen so far. My favorites were episode 3 and 7. Theo and the actor playing his dad were scene stealers clearly giving the lead trio a run for their money. Among the trio the Mabel aka Selena Gomez got the centerpiece. Not only does the story focus on her, she has probably solved the mystery. And for the first time I liked her in the green sleeveless dress. I rarely liked her costume choices in the series but she looked good in it. And her backstory and her interest in puzzles was in tune with the theme of the series. Lets see if the final episode is redemption and how does it tie all the loose ends. My rating overall is 6.5. Good ideas but not cleverly used.
When did they contact Cinda? Like idk. This season started off strong but just got silly. Idk why we needed a whole Mable episode. Looking forward to season 3
I love this show but I DEMAND justice for Winnie!? Who tried to murder that precious chonk!? 🥺 #JusticeForWinnie I would definitely say Martin Short for the award, he carried the emotional weight of a lot of scenes. Love the dynamic between him and Will. When he was going to confess I was holding my heart, you could see Will already knew but was giving his Dad the space to process and tell him in his own time. 🥰 I can't wait for S3! I think Ben is either Lucy's step-dad or he's dating Mabel. Either way Charles would be very protective of both of them, enough to kill? Idk but I'm so ready for the new mystery! 🥳🥂
I don't fully understand what happened. Glitter guy was obviously Detective Kreps since he's tall and also cause he had glitter on his neck and poppy/Becky is not as tall, so didn't Kreps actually do the killing? We know they were both in on it, so why didn't they invite Kreps to the killer reveal party and expose them both?
Benny could said Poppy. Also why would Becky reveal her true identity. And how did she know about the secret passages. What was the the plan ? To kill Benny and make podcast about her death and missing painting. This plot is far fetched. Its workable but the way it was set up definitely quite unconvincing. If they had to make this the core plot their sub plots had to be better. Those sub plots had to lead viewer into the mystery and not away from it.
So when is a plot loose end a red herring? I think in the last episode of the last season we will find that Winnie took poison to get back at Oliver to get attention, Winnie is as much of a Diva as Oliver. They have mentioned who poisoned Winnie in each season so far, I think it will be a running gag through the seasons, just to confound the people who don't see this as a comedy of a murder mystery and instead insist that they get their dose of Agatha Christie and see this as a murder mystery contaminated with unfortunate comedic elements. After Steve's drugged elevator scene and the slow motion scene, there is no question in my mind that this is a comedy with mystery thrown in.
I cant not think of them together in this show... All three of them should be up there. I'd have to rewatch the episodes to see which one I like better an base it off of that alone. :/
The theory about paul rud is a good one. . Also, thing about poppy... she called bunny asking for the painting bunny said who is this oh its you again and that she wasn't selling the painting. . . then shes at the dinner and we see bunny get up and leave. . . the person in either scene could have been kreps.. the person at the dinner could have been sent by poppy just like when he got hit with the glitter bomb. She clearly tried to frame the trio. I had a feeling kreps was involved to get "his big break".. but didn't really suspect poppy. I thought cinda had her doing things or something. . . I thought the show ended great. It gave us answers but still gave a peak into next season..
No I absolutely do not think Alice and Mabel should stay together. First off Alice gives me such an ick , 2nd she did such a bad thing mocking the killing of bunny folger and she is not a good trusted person. I want Mabel and Oscar back asap!
Would Mabel really be able to couple with Theo -- the man who (accidentally) killed her friend Zoe, and allowed her high school bf to go to jail for it? Where is Oscar?
Yep, you should make the videos like the show! Enjoyed this, but I do believe that number of outstanding questions could be answered by Sherlock-ian deduction. Unfortunately.. Since the latest murder victim is an all-new character and that too, in a very new location: I don't think all characters would be back come next season, given the economic realities of making TV. And is it just me, or did nobody noticed that Nina was totally absent since the "Hello, Darkness" episode?
Yeah! 👍🏾 But it's odd to see not a single character even mentioning her in passing for a finale, as she was a nightmare which suddenly ceased existing instead of a real person. 😂😂😂
I’m kinda done with this show tbh, I started watching for Selena Gomez but I’ve gotten attached to the main 3 now so I’ll still watch season 3, I just won’t have the high expectations that season 1 set me up with
I’m wondering if the yodeling song at the end of the finale for the closing credits is a clue that Howard is involved in Ben Glen’s murder. I guess we shall see!
I find it funny that the 1 and only time I have seen a celebrity in person…was a Steve Martin and Martin Short show…at winstar in OKLAHOMA 🤣. Main thing I remember was A LOT of sarcasm and jokes about how “excited” the were to be in nowhere Oklahoma 🤣 why am I not surprised that they ended up using Oklahoma as a boring place, as if something ACTUALLY exciting wouldn’t possssssibly happen there.
Subscribed and liked Your videos keep me posted on anything Arconia BTW great choice with Martin Short. He’s excellent!! Another thing Teddy and his son were missing on the last episode. I didn’t like that, since they were such a big part of the show.
I think it’s Joy. I think there’s poison in the makeup and that’s why Charles couldn’t talk when she asked him out and somehow that’s what she did to Ben.
8:30 - You did it again. You erroneously referred to Cinda as "Cindy". For the sake of the readers, I will mention again that Cindy is a different character, one who was played by Anne Stringfield (Steve Martin's wife).
i think the way lucy looks at ben or paul rudds charcter when the curtains open is clue that they might be dating or something like that maybe flirting but chales finds out and dosent approve of benn
@@michaelwestern11 ye true but who knows he might not feel the same about lucy also she's almost always there when charles is at set filming i think its a reason in season 2 that lucy is always following charles on set for brazzos.
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Poppy killed not only for a good podcast, but to frame Cinda so she could finally break free from Cinda. She was only framing the trio because that would look like something Cinda would do. She confided in Mabel because she wanted Mabel to think poorly of Cinda and wanted the trio to think Cinda was the killer
Yeah, but by framing Cinda, she’s guilty by association. And then revealing your Becky to Mabel is crazy!
I don't think framing Cinda was her intention when she killed Bunny. She only turned on Cinda after Cinda rejected her promotion request.
@@jt279 Poppy even admitted she wanted Cinda's approval. And ya know even though Cinda in not the murderer, she is still a conceited jerk!
This is such a great explanation 👏👏 but I have a question by the time the police took the trio downstairs to the police car how was Poppy already there? She even had a mask on her face and she wasn’t covered in blood at all. What could have she done within those minutes
And is it just me, or did nobody notice that Nina was totally absent since the "Hello, Darkness" episode?
The Becky butler reveal should have happened in reverse. They should have gotten the fingerprints back identified as a dead girl and the team should have pieced the clue together to figure out that poppy was Becky Butler!
Great minds think alike, I had the same thought late last night
I’ve seen all the episodes, if you look at detective kreps in the last episode, you can see how he is digging. I’m guessing it’s the matchbook.
Question: where was the matchbook? I’m curious to know, that if it was in bunny’s apartment, was there information about the Rose Cooper painting hidden inside?
Yeah. I also don't understand why Poppy had to spit it out by herself. It is unnatural considering that she probably didn't want to reveal her own murder.
@@oklu_ Yeah, that writing felt kinda sloppy. Very "we need this information out there ASAP." Her admitting to it makes no sense.
That's what make the show funny.
Season 2 was so good, the pacing was great and you wouldn't even realise it was filmed during covid. The finale was personally very dissapointing, it was very rushed and no flashbacks. Also it felt unfinished. How does Poppy just 'find' the secret passageway, and it felt quite dissapointing. Im hoping they fill in some blanks bc there is a lot.
I'm also curious as to how Poppy/Krebs found the passageways. I figured I just missed something cuz no one seems to be talking about it.
Another little nitpick during the reveal scene that I don't think anyone has brought up - how did Poppy know that there was a girl (Lucy) in the catacombs. Poppy accidentally said it out loud during the reveal party, and it was what helped everyone realize she was the killer. Except in the flashback, Poppy/hooded person only heard a noise in the tunnels. When she didn't see anyone, she gave up looking for the source of the noise.
The best finale ever
@@eansba88- maybe poppy set up cameras in the apartment
@@WastedPo Maybe because Lucie told the policeman during the blackout that she was being chased by the killer in the secret passage. Poppy must have made the connection and thought that Lucie had to be present on the day of the murder. 🤔 Poppy must have heard about the secret passage while following the investigation. But I admit that I would like to know more too. Too bad there weren't enough flashbacks.
I was SHOOK when Charles got stabbed!
SAME! 🥺
The shocking finale
i started tearing up
I let out a high pitched scream and then teared up- I think I like Charles, can't be certain though. Hah.
OMG, I jumped up and yelled, "No, no, no, NO!"
I’m biased toward Steve Martin. However, Martin Short deserves a lot more recognition for his work and career that Steve has already received
Your podcost is the only one I will watch. This is because of your delivery, you content is great, but your voice is perfect. I like listening to your voice, it is paced well, not too excited, measured, no fillers, is melodic, and displays the right amount of enthusiasm. Good job.
Thanks for saying that- I should show you how much editing I do to make myself sound coherent:)
@@DoublePMedia It shows, thanks
Hah!
FINALLY...!
FINALLY somebody who is bold enough to compliment his voice. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Couldn't second more! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Wish they gave more of flashbacks scenes when they solved the murder
I do too. While watching the finale, the reveal was entertaining enough. But in retrospect, it's hard to fully comprehend how Poppy knew about the catacombs, why she felt it was necessary to brutally kill someone, what possible advantage it was to reveal her true identity to Mabel... etc.
@@WastedPo agreed! Cinda or Alice would made more sense buuuuuttttt
I was they had flashbacks to Poppy murdering Bunny. How did Bunny get away, how did Poppy get into Mabel's place? A flashback would have been helpful.
I remember reading a mystery some years ago about a man murdered in his locked bedroom. He wore some sort of decorative belt and the murderer added an extremely sharp knife to the belt.
When the man synched the belt, the knife stabbed into his abdomen. The knife was so sharp the man barely felt the pain, and when later he loosened the belt the knife dislodged and the man bled to death. I don't remember specific details, but the murder method has always stuck with me.... and totally came to mind seeing Paul rudds trench coat.
that sort of happend in the Sherlock episode "sign of three'
That would be a GREAT murder twist --- and a bad way to go. R.I.P. Ben Glenroy!
that's random but i was reading a mystery book and the victim had been stabbed but the knife was nowhere to be found and the main character came to the point seeing water next to victim that the knife was made of ice so it didn't leave any clues
Sherlock Holmes....The victim was a guard in some Palace.
My first thought when Ben Glenroy died was…did he ingest something that then interacted with the fog that resulted in his death but not Charzzos
Only Murders In The Pod has one of finale writers on.
He said that the reason Poppy text the trio at the end of season One after she called the police, was to have the trio seen running out of the building therefore making it look like they were running away from the crime scene.
He also said that Jan poisoned Winney.
"Dementia in remish"- that was my favorite part of this episode!
Hilarious 😂
Mine too!
Voting for either Steve or Martin is a disservice to both actors and performances. They are so different and yet equally great. Can this be the first Emmy tie??? Seriously.
Good point. But I don't think the EMMY ballot provides that option.
I love the way you frame your breakdowns of Only Murders! That's what makes your videos unique. Thanks for staying up late and making them.
Thank you!!! It was a late night
I honestly thought the reveal felt really rushed, Love the part in murder mysteries when we get the flashbacks to earlier scenes once the killer's outted and we see just how they did it which didn't happen here. The killer's motive felt convoluted and arbitrary. I like this show but I felt like it's a way better comedy than a murder mystery and the reveal was rushed to make time for season 3 set up.
Love your videos though, I've been watching these right after watching the show all season long and it's been fun theorizing with you guys. Keeping hopes up for a fair play mystery for season 3. Thanks and see you next season :)
Yes I agree....good fun, and witty at times, but not really a murder mystery---more of a dark comedy.
Great comedy!
Overall, I liked season 2 more than season 1, as I found the pacing, character development and twists to be better. However, the plot holes with Poppy being the killer are the weak points for me, such as why would Poppy volunteer her real identity to Mabel as that would implicate her in the mayor's arrest, or stab someone she barely knew 8 times in the hopes of getting a promotion. If Poppy had no issue killing someone, you'd think her target would be Cinda, as she would just simply take over the show with Cinda gone.
As for loose ends, there are quite a few this season as well, and I'm hoping that maybe the show-runners would create some short stories to address them, and they could also use this to provide more insight into the background of some characters they didn't have enough time in the season to explore. For example an "OMITB: Loose Ends" short to explain 1) the Lucy & Charles photo in Kreps' bag & who was the intended target, 2) who Bunny hired to forge the Rose Cooper, 3) the real reason why Bunny gave Ivan so much money, 4) who the diamond ring Tim bought was for, 5) who poisoned Winnie, and 6) who wrote the note on Jan's door. I would also like to see an "OMITB: Charles Sr, Rose & Leonora Love Triangle", and an "OMITB: A Day in the Life of Howard Morris" would be fun.
Like others have mentioned, the finale does feel rushed. I've always thought the person who sneezed in the passageways sounded like a man, and nothing like Poppy at all. The scene where Poppy tells Kreps she learned about the secret passageways seems to be added in as a voice-over, and I'm wondering if they had actually shot multiple endings with different characters as the killer, and based on how the fans reacted after the first 6 or 7 episodes, decided on who the real killer would be through editing.
Edit: Also wanted to add how much I enjoyed the music and the its arrangement this season. I think not enough has been said about how impactful the music score has been in bringing out the emotion in the various scenes. The ones I particularly liked are: 1) piano solo at the end of ep1 when Charles discovers the painting in his apartment, 2) Billie Eilish's "You should see me in a crown" when Mabel takes apart Alice's sculpture in ep2, 3) what I call Lucy's theme when she recollects her arrival at the elevators in the Arconia in ep4, and 4) what I call Mabel's trauma theme when she starts flipping over the puzzle pieces towards the end of ep7.
Will PopBecky appear again in Season 3? As a prison pal of Jan?
I interpreted Poppy texting “Get out of the building” so she could plant the evidence in there apartments without interruption
Someone claims the showrunner said "Get out of the building" was meant to have them rushing out of the building while the cops rushed in -- to make the Podcast 3 look guilty - fleeing the scene of the crime
Not exactly clear on the show
@@DoublePMedia That’s what we were meant to believe those crafty screenwriters
Still so many questions for me. 1. How did Bunny get the painting from Rose Cooper? 2. How does Poppy know about the painting and that Bunny has it? 3. Who did the reproduction and why? (ex, did Bunny have it done after Poppy was asking about it and Bunny suspected Poppy might steal it?) 4. Are we to assume it was Poppy who poisoned Winnie, and left the notes for Jan and Oliver in Sea1? 5. Did Poppy somehow know Jan killed Tim Kono? 6. How did Poppy get Bunny into Mabels house? 7. Why would Poppy tell Mabel her true identity? 8. But my bigger issue is now with Poppys complete continuity timeline. I tried to write out what Poppys complete timeline of events would be based on Sea 1 and Sea 2 and I couldnt do it. Ill try to explain, but it probably wont sound right. If you watch the post show "One Killer Question" the Poppy actress implies that Poppy moved to NY after meeting and getting involved with Kreps because "moving to NY with nothing is impossible". So, if that is true, then that means when Poppy goes to meet Cinda the first time to ask for a job and proposes the idea of doing a podcast based on Becky going missing in OK, she has already meet and gotten involved with Kreps and moved in with him in NY. For that to happen, that means Poppy has already met Kreps (most likely from when he went to OK to make more money and work the missing Becky case) and worked with him to do whatever manipulation they did with local OK policy on Becky being missing. Then, going back to the first time Poppy talks to Cinda, Poppy proposes the podcast for someone "missing", not killed. Then Cinda tells Poppy if the case were a murder, then she would be interested. But, Poppy and Kreps have already done their stuff in OK and are now in NY. But now Poppy needs to turn it from a missing case, into a murder case so Cinda will do it. So how does that happen? Do Poppy and Kreps then go back to OK and work on framing the Mayor for the murder, in a case with no body and no weapon? And then there are the scenes where Cinda, Kreps and Poppy are all at the Chicken Chug. We know Cinda is not aware when she does the "OK podcast" that Poppy is Becky and set up the whole Becky case with Kreps' help, right? So when all three are at the Chug, that has to be once it was a murder, evidenced by Cinda being there and now doing the podcast, and not when Poppy first meets Kreps when hes there on the case when its just "missing". I just cant make sense of what Poppy did step by step, and when she did it, and with who. Also forgot. Did the show address the person breaking into Charles house during the blackout episode? Are we to assume it was Poppy? If not, then Kreps? And what was the persons purpose of the break in? Lucy was there, but if the person was after Lucy, how would they know she was even there?
didn't u pay attention?Leonora bought the painting from Rose Cooper then it was passed to Bunny.Poppy did a research as we know in Rose Cooper and found out she was alive in episode 9 Rose talks about a girl who was asking for the painting so maybe Rose told her that she didn't have it and Bunny does.Many famous pieces of art have copies for example mona lisa there is the original but also copies and we don't care who made the copy it doesn't matter.About Winnie we don't know who poisoned her and Jan left the note to Oliver but the note in Jan's door was probably by Howard cause he told the trio he knew jan was the murderer you have so many questions we don't care about Poppy knowing that Jan was the murderer Tim's and Bunny's murders are not connected.Poppy told Mabel her true identity so that the trio will suspect Cinda
I actually guessed Poppy and her motive by the end of Ep.9. BUT I was still so disappointed in this finale for many reasons and felt like there were many holes and loose ends left from both seasons. Your comment made me realize just HOW MUCH MORE nonsensical the Poppy story is than I even thought originally. Shoot - just the fact that no one at this small town’s main hang out spot would recognize her just because she now has long hair and glasses is ridiculous. Who is she - Clark Kent?
Poppy at one point also suggests to cinda canning about doing a podcast on the disappearance of Rose Cooper and the painting thst Rose had done. It was in an episode when cinda was mocking Charles for saying "we are all Tim kono" as she listened to the only murders in the building podcast. Cinda would have listened to that podcast when the trio recorded it last year. As cinda was eager for new podcast material poppy made the Rose Cooper suggestion as the story was well known and associated with the arconia and that rose Cooper lived across the street from the arconia and the Folgers. Poppy researched everything.
I don’t understand how poppy can go back to her hometown with a new haircut and glasses (Superman) and no one recognizes her when everyone is looking for her.
ha ha. I thought it was the Superman/Clark Kent trick too :)
cause she looks different and years have passed since her disappearance
I think she was 'invisible' to everyone before she disappeared. So even the slightest change would throw people off.
I'm actually glad the killer was Poppy not Cinda because the motive would not have been as strong. The Killer Reveal Party was hilarious and one of my favorite scenes. I like that for season 3 the victim is a completely new character so we get to learn everything. What we know right now is that Been appears to have been poisoned and only suspect we have for the now is Charles. My questions right now are 1. Who is the "her" Charles was referring to...perhaps Lucy? I felt like that might be her step-dad. 2. How is Ben(Paul Rudd) connected to the Arconia?
SN: I'm going to put it out there that IF Ben is in fact Lucy's step-dad that she poisoned him
This is an attempt to answer Cat;s questions: 1. A copy exist because Bunny didn't want the original to be stolen. She knew Poppy wanted it. 2. How and why did Poppy know about the painting. I had that question too. Poppy was a good researcher, she was intrigued by Rose Cooper's disappearance and found out about this painting in the process. My guess would be she found out through Ursula. Ursula mentioned to Oliver that there was someone who was questioning her about the trio. 3. Again, I think she found out through Ursula. Ursula makes it a point to know about everything that goes on in the Arconia. 4. Why did Amy S. appear at all? Dunno. Maybe they were thinking of using her more, but they changed their minds? 5. I think Poppy did it, because she wanted the podcast to stop, and she was trying to scare them, or break Oliver's heart, so he would want to stop. Now why did Poppy reveal who she really was? Poppy was good about plotting and planning, but not so good about thinking on her feet. She did not expect Mabel to show up at the studio. She was making a feeble attempt to implicate Cinda, other than herself, because Mabel knew that their previous podcast was connected.
The Butler Did It....classic!
I'd love to know/see:
How Poppy found that knife in Oliver's Theatre Museum Apartment, there is quite a lot of stuff in there?
Why was the fake painting put up on the wall in Charles apartment? Unless you were going to bust in and catch him immediately then it would be likely he'd find it and take it back down to hide it as he would also do with the knife.
Why did Ursula throw that box of files away so suspiciously, both in action and in placement?
Did anyone inform the real Lenora (even with her health issues) that her daughter had died?
What inspired Becky to choose the name Poppy White?
I would have liked to see how Bunny and Poppy made it over to Mabel's apartment, it just feels less complete to skip around the details of the murder.
Is season 3 going to be called "... and also Murders on Broadway" ?
Did Marv ever solve the 6th avenue slasher, maybe he should start his own podcast? Why doesn't anyone die on 3rd? I bet that is where the killer lives.
What the heck is that thing on top of Nina's Arconia 2.0 mockup?
How many numbers does Uma think are in 911??? LOL
This is plenty for now, I'm sure I'll think of something else.... Love your channel!
Glad someone finally mentioned how ineffective framing was. If Kreps was in on it, why din't he do anything like raid their places based on an "anonymous" tip and catch them with the incriminating planted evidence? I'm guessing there must be a myriad of ways to actually catch them with all the framing and with the LEAD DETECTIVE ON YOUR SIDE.
In Marv fashion I’d say the podcast only cover Murders IN the building. And occasionally on Broadway. Every once in a while on Coney Island. Really the whole city is a stomping grounds for content, but they strongly prefer murders in the building
Yes!!! That's perfect inner channeling of my boy Marv!
Ah Ah I told me the same thing with Uma and the numbers 🙃
In the after-show One Killer Question, the actress who plays Poppy states she won in a certain way because she got what she wanted. If it was the choice between living this abusive life in Oklahoma and having done these incredible things. She’d pick the recognition she thought she deserved. She then states that her character killed Bunny because she was an easy target and it could make a good story if the 3 of them murdered Bunny. Kind of how the mayor killed Becky made a good story. She states that Poppy is very smart but she is over emotional. In the end her heart sabotaged her mind because Cinda pushed her buttons enabling a panic attack.
I love that you mentioned who shot mr burns! I was totally thinking it as you were talking 😂
My guess for season 3 killer is the lady at the end who said, “Break a Leg!” I noticed the fog in the picture in the end credits. I think you’re into something about the fog being poisonous. 🌫
that slowmo part and the tomato killed me lol
Me too! I wanted to confess to get them to stop! :)
I came to this play to watch Ben Glenroy -- he died at the beginning. Then the play was canceled. This is an opening night ticket that I paid HUNDREDS for!!! I can't get another night off. Who wants my ticket to the follow up show?
Thank you for your reviews this season!! These were my favorite episode overviews
Thank you Pearl!
Thank you so much! The show requires a whole lotta suspension of disbelief BUT it's the characters that keep me hooked. Despite its flaws, I'm so happy there will be a season 3.
Thank you and we'll be back for season 3!
A little theory I have before I watch the video: I think the "her" Charles talks about with Ben is Jan. It makes sense for her to be important for Charles as Charles has a complicated relationship with her and it also makes sense given that Mabel, Lucy and Charles' stylist/new girlfriend are all happy and excited (which doesn't match the seriousness of what Ben did based on Charles' delivery of the line).
That would be a fun twist
but Charles put sazz to end their relationship i don't think Jan will appear again and Charles has a new gf zoey i don't remember her name so why is he warning Ben to stay way from Jan? But in season 1 Tim was poisoned,the cat was and Charles so maybe if there was poison in the fog or something they will someway connect season 1 with season 3
I don't see OMITB as a murder mystery per se. It has a murder and murderer, that drives the plot, but it is rich in comedy and in some very touching moments. I love the show and the characters!
Well said
@@DoublePMedia Thank you
Very fun season and season finale. Appreciate the hustle to put these videos together DPM!! While I'd have loved being right about motive, story, etc. I almost love it more to be fooled by a great mystery. The big reveal party, head fake with Charles' death, Howard dramatics, Lester's acting chops, were all so fun. Self deprecating comment by Oliver about this not feeling like a finale yet was very self aware and what we likely were all thinking. I agree on the fog being fatal. As for the "her", what about Charles' new make up artist girlfriend? He was mean (something to her) and she did something to the makeup that only someone in her industry would have access to? Otherwise, I could see the "her" being Mabel or Lucy. Maybe we haven't met the "her" yet. Great ride Arconiacs!! See you next season. Now on to House of the Dragon.
Can't wait for Paul Rudd to bring the funny in Season 3!
This is the best finale I ever seen cuz I didn’t see the killer coming
In the after-show One Killer Question, the actress who plays Poppy states she won in a certain way because she got what she wanted. If it was the choice between living this abusive life in Oklahoma and having done these incredible things. She’d pick the recognition she thought she deserved. She then states that her character killed Bunny because she was an easy target and it could make a good story if the 3 of them murdered Bunny. Kind of how the mayor killed Becky made a good story. She states that Poppy is very smart but she is over emotional. In the end her heart sabotaged her mind because Cinda pushed her buttons enabling a panic attack.
I'm in the "disappointed" camp bc unlike season 1, I thought it had potential to be a more complex mystery--even if I had no way of finding out who the killer actually was--I'd be fine with that. They dropped a few "clues" that either were never explained OR only had the most boring (or zero) explanation at the end (the painting, the sneeze, arcatacomb access etc.). I wish they could've just written something a little more "shocking" and make it make sense! Here are some "seemingly clues" that I am frustrated weren't addressed. For example: First and foremost: (1) Why have Mabel say at the end of Season 1 AND in Bunny's Last Day episode mention about Tim Kono's murder that there are "loose ends?" Even if I had no way of guessing, I wish they would have cleverly connected the murders somehow. Personally, I thought there might be room to do so with the whole "artist" mastermind thing AND a theme about people faking deaths that Tim Kono somehow faked his death. It also seemed plausible because of his allergy to cats (I think) and the sneezing clue. Additionally, a motive could be he seemed to be involved in collecting jewelry beyond what he needed for the Emerald ring (or the diamond ring) and could have been using the passageways to traffic goods--be connected to some larger crime ring that either Bunny was in-on or knew about. (2) Another dropped clue was some narration, like Charles during the Bunny episode saying Bunny was a "NY classic-treasure trove of stories, secrets, and forgotten wisdom”
and “Bunny always put the Arconia first - and that didn’t always make her popular, even among the people she cared for.” Again--why that narration when she's about to get murdered, but never talk abotu the secrets she knows or putting the Arconia first and being unpopular? Seemed like a wasted opportunity of some tie-in to either her murder OR some other sub-plot. And (3) As others have mentioned--we're supposed to believe that Alice randomly shows up in Mabel's life, thinks she's "helping" Mabel by betraying her and using her trauma, and then just gives her a "gift" that magically reveals the murderer's connection to the All is Not OK? Just too many coincidences to not have some connection to ANYTHING. Okay, I'll stop there on season 2 and interested to hear other's thoughts...But just want to say that for Season 3, I'm just lowering my expectations about it being a clever murder mystery. As for Season 3's killer--I think it's Joy (makeup lady love interest) because in the finale she brushed Charles' face and he started acting how he did after Jan poisoned him (so maybe Joy gave him a little poison) and she has a motive as EITHER the "she" Charles is referring to OR if the "she" is Lucy--to protect Charles' interests Joy acts as a psycho girlfriend who does too much (Charles has bad luck with lady loves). Thanks for reading and if you didn't read--for the space to vent!
UGH! And the "14 Savage" meant NOTHING until the characters POINTED TO IT on the menu--not even giving us a second to figure it out. so frustrating! I hope they give the fans what they want and get a Sherlock-level writer in there for the mystery part and leave the comic writers as is.
100% with out on the 'loose ends' comment. There are still loose ends!
Well the reason that the show doesn’t mention alibis or more clues or fair motive is because it is supposed to be a cozy mystery that features more about characters and their lives then more on the clues and motives!
There was a moment when Poppy and Krepes were in the same room together and she made eyes at them. My third or fourth time watching the episode is when I noticed it lol 😂
Outstanding leading actor? Definitely Martin Short!!!!!
Thanks for all that you do to bring us this podcast! I appreciate the fair-play-murder mystery filter you bring to examine the episodes even though the show doesn't follow the formula. The only thing I found disappointing about the season was Poppy's ambition motive didn't feel complete. That has less to do with the solvability of the case and more to do with writing and editing choices IMO. So, I vote to keep doing the fair-play approach for next season.
Thanks Jennifer for your note. I'm still excited for season 3!
I enjoyed the finale! Season 2 was different from S1, but I think it makes sense. This show feels like it should be around for at least 4 or 5 seasons, the second season was excellent at attaching us to each character emotionally!
As far as Poppy being the killer. I agree with almost everyone, we needed a longer episode to really flush that out. But overall, the episode was enjoyable
I know I’ve mentioned here that I enjoy season one more, however, season two tied into one in an amazing stroke of writing brilliance. I figured two late that season one had more significance; I knew Everything is Not OK in Oklahoma. This series is remarkable.
Hell yeah!
Plot twist: Marv’s daughter is in the production and that’s why Charles is protection from Ben. Marv isn’t the killer, but that’s the direction the show wants us to lean next season (apart from suspecting Charles, of course) because the poison IS in the fog. Since Marv cleans mold from buildings, we’re led to believe he also employed similar chemicals, aerosolized them, and killed Ben.
It won’t be Ben, of course, it will be Howard’s love interest from S2 who killed Ben because he believed Ben stole the role from him.
Idk - I have been so off with every other prediction that this one is as good as any 🤣
omg omg yall are so ready to find the murderer without context or clues someone on reddit said it would be sazz when we don't know anything yet but it would be interesting to see the investigation being involved around the theatre place/people
@@cookiesandmilk686 lol it’s really a satirical crazy theory of the day. I feel like that’s all I was working with ep to ep the past two seasons so why not throw one out for S3 🤣 It was Mrs. Gambolini who poisoned Ben through his wig glue for calling her a parakeet. She’s clearly a parrot! 😜
I feel as if Ben Glennly died from lead poisoning in his makeup due to how he fell in the show, which would mean that it was most likely a makeup artist or another cast member who put lead into the makeup which lead to it seeping into his skin. It also couldn't have been the fog on stage because Charley came onto the stage to check on Ben and how Charley most likely would've also breathed the air off stage as well
Lead poisoning would be a bad way to go
I was so unsatisfied with Becky/Poppy as the killer. It really doesn’t make sense or answer anything of how did she know about the secret passageways? Y did she have to kill Bunny? There just way to many plot holes this season with Becky/Poppy being the killer. I’d rather it have been Nina,Howard,Ursula,Alice,Cinda,or Rose because there motivates would have been more believable
episode 3 from Season 1 is such a fantastic episode.... yeah Martin Short deserves it...he is a fantastic actor and not recognized enough
Who killed Ben Glenroy? My radical theory?
Nobody.
He isn't dead, there's been no murder, this is all part of the act.
Having the theater audience think an actor's just been murdered onstage is just the sort of tacky, over-the-top hoopla that Oliver Putnam would come up with.
But why do I think this? Mainly because of the show's title and what it means. Only Murders *in the Building*. Our heroes' podcasts only cover murders within the Arconia. This does not appear to be within the Arconia. If it isn't, then this won't be the murder being investigated next season.
Of course, it could turn out that the theater is within the Arconia. I've read that some of these big, fancy apartment buildings the Arconia is based on did have theaters within them, in which case my theory is wrong.
So either this theater is within the Arconia, or this won't be the murder being investigated next season, and if the latter's the case, then the most likely reason is because this murder is part of the show.
That would work. Only Murders in the Building. Only Fake-outs in the Theatre!
@@DoublePMedia I might be thinking that too. Although, it might be faked or real.
I don't know....I feel like even Oliver would be more sensitive than to just subject Mabel to that even if an act would be pretty traumatic for his friend i'd think...unless the friends in the audience are part of the show?
My favorite line was the killer reveal party gag
Anyone else feel bad for Poppy/Becky?
She seemed to be tossed around by her father and her old and current boss
A part of me is glad Kreps thought she was the genius and not Cinda Canning
Though they both deserved to go to jail
PopBeck had a tough life, but Bunny didn't deserve that final night of emotional and physical pain
Martin Short emmy 😊👍
that was my thought too
His death made me sad 😔, he seemed so scared and aware of what was happening to him
Dying on stage. With all those eyes staring at him. Terrible!
@@DoublePMedia It is 😔
I think Alice wanted to take advantage of Mabel's trauma, acting like she's above the #BloodyMabel trending topic when she wanted to use that as a basis of her art show, to the point where she recreated everything
Why did Rose take the painting? It should go to Bunny’s mom, at least to pay for her care.
Dale, I didn't think of that, but you have a GREAT point!
oh also I really really really hate alice. I know they deliberately did not show her in the s3 preview so they could write her out and thats what im gunning for. from the beginning she was EXTREMELY creepy with mabel, referring to her as "fascinating" despite only knowing of her trauma, and treated her like an art piece instead of a human being. imo once she got as far as making weird videos depicting a murder that happened like less than a month ago, in mabels own apartment, she lost the right to breathe the same air as mabel and if they are in a relationship come s3 I will make it my personal goal and duty to singlehandedly tank her character's ratings. she can come back as a villain tho thats permitted
Alice may be back for season 3. Will you be okay with her? What about Amy Schumer?
I was so mad in the final scenes where Mabel lets Alice stay. Like nooo!! She was literally profiting of Mabel's misfortune in that same month or so.
Yes thank you. I despised her character, she was so pointless as well. Why couldn’t they have kept Oscar? I disliked her from the start but hated her after she tried to re create Tim’s murder. I think she was only brought on to the show because Cara is friends with Selena Gomez.
Emmy vote Marty short hands DOWN! Not that Charles isn’t great but, there were some really outstanding moments with Oliver: 1) with his young son during the son of Sam episode explaining his tells
2) the whole thing with teddy in the elevator and after
3) the last episode with will when he tries to confess he’s not his father and will says he knows his dads tells.
4) with detective Williams baby 😂
I dunno but some moments with Oliver really pulled at my heart. Like, they were a perfect mix of funny and sad.
Technically, this year's EMMYs are about last year's OMITB season 1. But I agree, Marty Short gets plenty of funny in season 2
@@DoublePMedia oh right 😂😭 that would make sense smh 🤦♀️ . I loved Oliver in season 1 but I think to me, he had more awesome moments in season 2.
WHY AM I HOLDING THIS KNIFE??!!
@@elenavthorn 😂 the way he just throws it and it goes into the ceiling got me 😭😭😂
@@dayrenstacey5406 hahahhah YES!! I love that part so much 😂
Thank you for the thoughtful videos!
Thank you for watching them!
That whole Poppy telling Mabel who she was didn't make sense at all. I don't know what the gain would've been from Poopy's perspective. Unless it was just to make Cinda look bad. But it would've gotten Poppy in trouble either way. She allowed the mayor to go to prison knowing full well he didn't commit murder. I liked the finale but I think they missed the mark on some of the details.
That was bad to reveal who she is
Exactly. Having the world know that you faked your death and then assisted on a podcast that investigated that fake death... Poppy would gain infamy, and maybe that's what she really wanted.
I really thought that Ben Glenroy (Paul Rudd) was glitter guy/the killer but it turns out he was going to be the next victim. Can't wait to see one of my favorite avenger in my favorite show for season 3 😃😃🐜
To answer your question about Charles' father being in and out of jail. Based on what Rose told Charles, it sounds like he went downhill after she went into hiding and they lost touch. But that raised another question for me: if Charles was able to find Rose via the address hidden in his father's watch, why couldn't his father? I'm assuming he's the one that put it there.
Oh, that's so sad for Charles' father
I had the same question regarding the knife, why plant evidence with your finger prints on it? Why plant evidence at all, if the cops never show up and there is plenty of time to get rid of it? Why tell them your real name? This was a gruesome murder for money/fame. Bunny was right, the podcast was BAD news!!! It is still a blast to watch. It is more of a spoof of a murder mystery, then an real murder mystery.
100%
the knife had saliva not fingerprints and poppy was playing with them putting evidence in Charles' house also Poppy said she was Becky cause she wanted to lead the trio to Cinda which seems to work at first
Season 3 --- here we come!
But this video doesn't have much meat on the bone!
I thought it Would be a 2 seasons shows
I am excited for season 3, but I wonder how they are going to tie Ben Glenroy's details back to the Arconia. If they don't then the podcast the trio make isn't about only murders in the building.
That's what I was thinking too. Maybe he was poisoned at the Arconia, in which case the murder did technically happen in the building.
maybe he lives in the arconia idk
@@cookiesandmilk686 My guess is he took over the penthouse from Amy Schumer, and like Thomas said, maybe he was poisoned at the Arconia? Maybe from poisoned gut milk!
@@jt279 yes but he wasn't introduced as Paul but as Ben so maybe in the series he isn't a famous actor i have thought of what u said tho.About the gut milk idk someone on reddit said that maybe it was something in the fog and Ben was allergic to that so he died
Technically, the trio were in the building when he was murdered so its technically acceptable?
Stoked for Season 3!
#OnlyMurdersInTheTheater
I loved both seasons, and the finality of season 2 was hilarious!
I still don't know if Lester was acting or not
I thought season 2 was fantastic! I really enjoyed the finale and laughed out loud a lot.
I absolutely loved how the reveal went this season. Leading us to believe it’s Cinda at the end of episode 9 into 10, then Mable calling Alice out and her STABBING Charles! That made me gasp that was a genius move to add in. Then ultimately Poppy being exposed. I feel satisfied with this finale and the answers we got. I still wish we know who poisoned Winnie (maybe it was Jan and she lied.. but I don’t see her lying about that when she planned on killing Charles anyways)
I truly think the writers saw people’s reaction to Amy Schumer being cast and decided to cut her role back…lol.
I do wish we got flashbacks to seeing poppy killing Bunny and in Mable’s apartment but I’m not dying over it. (no pun intended)
I’ve enjoyed your videos every week and appreciate the work you put in!!
Thank you! Get ready, next year we'll be after Ben Glenroy's killer!
@@DoublePMedia I’ll be back next season for sure! Seriously you did great every week and made it fun. So your work isn’t going I noticed or unappreciated!
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This scene pays homage to the Broadway play "A Chorus Line"
One singular sensation!
Really enjoyed this season and your videos to every episode!
For my final theory I had Poppy beeing the killer and even thought that Cinda didn’t know that Poppy was Becky, making her the mastermind and the brilliant woman Kreps kept talking about. However, just like last season, my correct prediction only came after watching the second to last episode.
I believe Poppy told Mabel who she really is to make it seem as if Cinda “kidnapped” her and fabricated the whole story while keeping her “hostage” and working for her, showing Mabel to what lengths Cinda would go to to have a story to tell. What do you think?
As for the question as to how she knew about the passage ways? No Idea. Did she find them while researching for the podcast during the first murder? Did Kreps get her plans to the building so that she could plan her murder as well as possible and discovered them that way?
Also, what sense does it make to plant evidence in the trios’ apartments if you don’t have your boyfriend bust in there with police to find it and frame the Trio even more?? Plus, by texting the people you are trying to frame to get out of the building, you’re giving them an alibi!! “Brilliant woman” my a** Kreps.
Furthermore, do we know who followed Lucy during the blackout? Was it Poppy, Marv, Kreps?
So many questions….
Thank you and GREAT JOB catching the Arconia Killer! You made the invite to the party!
I didn't think Poppy was that compelling of a character so I'm just glad the plotline is done. Also, how can you have someone die outside the building if the show is called Only Murders In The Building? I'm worried they're expanding the world without thinking about what makes the show great is the confined cast of colorful characters. Like no Oscar or Theo past a spotlight ep? Were they taking a nap?
Agree. What is even the point of Alice. I wished they had kept Oscar
@@sara76561 FR I LIKE OSCAR MORE THAN ALICE , ALICE GIVES ME SUCH AN ICK!!!!
I haven’t agreed with you all season about how Howard had the funniest lines. He was okay but not that funny to me, but I’ll give him credit this episode. I laughed at most everything he said
For me, Howard and Marv are so cartoony (Simpsons level silly) that I laugh for them the most. Who ya got as best laugh?
@@DoublePMedia Martin Short for me and my wife!
I bet Marv bragged to the other super fans how his loyalty to OMIT-B payed off and he got to see the trio take down the killer.
I’m also very glad that Marv wasn’t the killer.
Like Howard, Marv kills me. The other Arconiacs will be totes jelly! (according to Lucy)
There’s really no point in trying to solve the murder till season 3 episode 9. That’s the OMITB MO. There are so many things that happen that the writers don’t address. I thought it was frustrating in season one but now the loose ends are just lazy writing, anticlimactic and to be expected.
I was disappointed in the finale. We should have learned how Alice knew that the OK podcast was a factor. I liked some parts (mainly Howard and Alice) but I’m realizing that the show is just funny. It’s not going to be juxtaposed with a dark, elaborate mystery. It would be truly fantastic if it was. I think they tried harder this season but missed the mark. Oh well.
I'll be back for season 3. But maybe I do need to adjust how I make these videos.
hidden clues existed this season just because u didn't notice it doesn't mean that they didn't...cause u said that the killer will always be found at episode 9 the clues were leading from the start to the Cinda-Poppy direction many suspected Cinda but it was actually poppy if u want examples i can give u
@@cookiesandmilk686 I’m with Lamp Light on this one
Another question I have is what was the point of the puzzle in the end credits
Idea for the Hulu gift shop?
So Poppy ran away from Oklahoma, changed her hair, and went back after she started working for Cinda?? and nobody recognized her?!!! what in the Hannah Montana is going on here!!!
Hannah Montana is very popular in Oklahoma!
Maybe the one who poisoned Ben and Winnie are the same person... Maybe Poppy talled Maybel that she was Becky to frame Cinda , so the trio would think that it was Cinda's idea to fake Becky's death and get the success. I'm curious how they are gonna shoot the 3 season, I personally imagine the story line going back and forth and revealing the past and connecting it to the present
Why did Alice hint to “all is not okay in Oklahoma” in the puzzle?
Alice is clairvoyant!
I found this season underwhelming. I don't like that they retconned the relationship between Poppy and Kreps. I would've also liked to actually see and understand what he was doing. They should've linked Poppy and the painting earlier, because how would she know about it? Introducing her backstory so late makes me not want to care about her or her intentions. Also it's just less riveting when killing Bunny was impersonal - Jan's crime of passion was fun and gave it time for the trio to try to stop her. We at least got the bulk of an episode of Evil Jan, whereas Poppy was revealed and arrested almost instantly. Oh and Mabel giving Alice a second chance was pretty barf after what Alice did
I understand. There was a quick turnaround on Season 2, which may have played a part. Hope Season 3 plays better, with even more laughs.
GREAT ending! Loved season 2!
Ben's killer is a new character that the audience develops compassion for & wants to see more of & learn more about, a charming sidekick, even an audience surrogate. In short, the killer is the most likeable supporting character in the show, and their victim is very unlikeable.
Oh man! You cracked their formula
@@DoublePMedia Actually I liked Tim, and Bunny, not so sure about Zoe.
@@kimwaltz6114 I was hoping Poppy would defect over to OliMabel. That should've been my first clue she was the killer. Fool me twice...
I thought the finale episode for season two was very entertaining. One question I have is was Kreps sleeping with Cinda and then left her for Poppy? Or just sleeping with them at the same time? We see that Kreps is looking back and then the camera moves to Cinda, who appears to be looking back at him. Then we see that Poppy is looking at Kreps making us believe he is really looking at Poppy. When the trio were revealing who the killer was, they said that Cinda and Kreps had sexual tension and Cinda didn't deny it.
If that was Kreps apartment where he hooked up with PopBeck, then both the NYPD and Coney Island need to pay their employees more!
The explanation for the text message is that they were supposed to be running out of the building when the cops showed up. They would look super guilty and all get arrested for murdering Bunny.
That makes sense! I didn't pick that up from the episode, but you have to be correct
@@DoublePMedia this came straight from John Hoffman on today’s episode of the OMITB podcast. I’m not that clever. 😆
You mention the moon in the opening credits but there are also fireworks... Which they shows in the opening scene of season 2 when Charles is walking down the street and appears to be heading for a fall into a manhole. He ends up in the interrogation room. I wonder if this is a forshadow to the third season and if Charles will end up in the irrigation room to start this season once again.
I love the character development and seeing there background which writers focused on more I thought ending was poor to be be honest it did not fully make sense poppy knowing the secret passage ways when the residents didn’t know any she came and went as she liked and the 14 sandwhich they made that sound like a major clue but really it was a throw away I did like how each character could be a suspect at the party but it was lazy writing for a conviction
Well Season 2 is ending. I have just one episode left but certainly this was a season which bit more than it can chew. Now the core plot, the one that leads to the murder is good. That's a good center but unlike Season 1 the sub plots are loose. They are just diversions which lead away from the mystery.
As I had mentioned the angle of rival podcast was good and in the end the makers saw the wisdom and made it the raison d'être of the Season 2. But the sub plots were definitely weak. The back and front story of Charles, his step daughter Lucy, Clara track with Selena, the painting and new board President track were either too unconvincing or underutilized, pulling the story in many different directions. They painting angle and board presidency were certainly not utilized well.
In Season 1 the plot was grounded. It focused well on James Kono and Arcania and the incident that happened 10 years ago. Here the audience is deliberately taken on many detours. Well the last episode is here but I have to say that it does feel as convincing as a mystery should. In a murder mystery you have to convince the audience. While Season 1 did so as an older Jan did not want Tim Kono to leave her for a younger man here the motivation does not seem strong enough from what I seen so far. My favorites were episode 3 and 7. Theo and the actor playing his dad were scene stealers clearly giving the lead trio a run for their money. Among the trio the Mabel aka Selena Gomez got the centerpiece. Not only does the story focus on her, she has probably solved the mystery. And for the first time I liked her in the green sleeveless dress. I rarely liked her costume choices in the series but she looked good in it. And her backstory and her interest in puzzles was in tune with the theme of the series.
Lets see if the final episode is redemption and how does it tie all the loose ends. My rating overall is 6.5. Good ideas but not cleverly used.
When did they contact Cinda? Like idk. This season started off strong but just got silly. Idk why we needed a whole Mable episode. Looking forward to season 3
after they found out Becky was the killer
I love this show but I DEMAND justice for Winnie!? Who tried to murder that precious chonk!? 🥺 #JusticeForWinnie
I would definitely say Martin Short for the award, he carried the emotional weight of a lot of scenes. Love the dynamic between him and Will. When he was going to confess I was holding my heart, you could see Will already knew but was giving his Dad the space to process and tell him in his own time. 🥰
I can't wait for S3!
I think Ben is either Lucy's step-dad or he's dating Mabel. Either way Charles would be very protective of both of them, enough to kill? Idk but I'm so ready for the new mystery! 🥳🥂
Hell yeah! Justice for Winnie in Season 3!!!
I don't fully understand what happened. Glitter guy was obviously Detective Kreps since he's tall and also cause he had glitter on his neck and poppy/Becky is not as tall, so didn't Kreps actually do the killing? We know they were both in on it, so why didn't they invite Kreps to the killer reveal party and expose them both?
Wonderful questions!
I love this show, and i love that they got paul rudd
Me too!
Benny could said Poppy. Also why would Becky reveal her true identity. And how did she know about the secret passages. What was the the plan ? To kill Benny and make podcast about her death and missing painting. This plot is far fetched. Its workable but the way it was set up definitely quite unconvincing. If they had to make this the core plot their sub plots had to be better. Those sub plots had to lead viewer into the mystery and not away from it.
So when is a plot loose end a red herring? I think in the last episode of the last season we will find that Winnie took poison to get back at Oliver to get attention, Winnie is as much of a Diva as Oliver. They have mentioned who poisoned Winnie in each season so far, I think it will be a running gag through the seasons, just to confound the people who don't see this as a comedy of a murder mystery and instead insist that they get their dose of Agatha Christie and see this as a murder mystery contaminated with unfortunate comedic elements. After Steve's drugged elevator scene and the slow motion scene, there is no question in my mind that this is a comedy with mystery thrown in.
Hell yes, Diva Winnie :)
I cant not think of them together in this show... All three of them should be up there. I'd have to rewatch the episodes to see which one I like better an base it off of that alone. :/
Also! You're doing a great job! It's awesome to sit down and create something that you enjoy but don't lose sleep!
Subscribing!
I thought cinda knew poppy ran away some and used her story and said she solved the case. . .
The theory about paul rud is a good one. .
Also, thing about poppy... she called bunny asking for the painting bunny said who is this oh its you again and that she wasn't selling the painting. . . then shes at the dinner and we see bunny get up and leave. . . the person in either scene could have been kreps.. the person at the dinner could have been sent by poppy just like when he got hit with the glitter bomb.
She clearly tried to frame the trio. I had a feeling kreps was involved to get "his big break".. but didn't really suspect poppy. I thought cinda had her doing things or something. . . I thought the show ended great. It gave us answers but still gave a peak into next season..
What happened to Charles stunt double. . . last scene is when she was breaking up with jan for Charles.
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No I absolutely do not think Alice and Mabel should stay together. First off Alice gives me such an ick , 2nd she did such a bad thing mocking the killing of bunny folger and she is not a good trusted person. I want Mabel and Oscar back asap!
Would Mabel really be able to couple with Theo -- the man who (accidentally) killed her friend Zoe, and allowed her high school bf to go to jail for it? Where is Oscar?
Yep, you should make the videos like the show!
Enjoyed this, but I do believe that number of outstanding questions could be answered by Sherlock-ian deduction.
Unfortunately.. Since the latest murder victim is an all-new character and that too, in a very new location: I don't think all characters would be back come next season, given the economic realities of making TV.
And is it just me, or did nobody noticed that Nina was totally absent since the "Hello, Darkness" episode?
GREAT notes! Hopefully, Nina was taking care of her newborn!
Yeah! 👍🏾
But it's odd to see not a single character even mentioning her in passing for a finale, as she was a nightmare which suddenly ceased existing instead of a real person. 😂😂😂
I would be happy if either Martin or Short wins.
I’m kinda done with this show tbh, I started watching for Selena Gomez but I’ve gotten attached to the main 3 now so I’ll still watch season 3, I just won’t have the high expectations that season 1 set me up with
Mabel Mora will return in : OMIT-B Season 3
I may have missed something…but who out the sign on Jan’s door, saying “I’m watching you”?
I’m wondering if the yodeling song at the end of the finale for the closing credits is a clue that Howard is involved in Ben Glen’s murder. I guess we shall see!
Howard - always my most likely suspect!
Really thought charles died
I find it funny that the 1 and only time I have seen a celebrity in person…was a Steve Martin and Martin Short show…at winstar in OKLAHOMA 🤣. Main thing I remember was A LOT of sarcasm and jokes about how “excited” the were to be in nowhere Oklahoma 🤣 why am I not surprised that they ended up using Oklahoma as a boring place, as if something ACTUALLY exciting wouldn’t possssssibly happen there.
Also….Oscar deserved better 🤷♀️
Awesome! When Steve & Marty are in state, All is OK in Oklahoma!
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BTW great choice with Martin Short. He’s excellent!!
Another thing Teddy and his son were missing on the last episode. I didn’t like that, since they were such a big part of the show.
i think Mabel and Alice should stay together for a little bit then Mabel and theo should get together
Love triangle!
I think it’s Joy. I think there’s poison in the makeup and that’s why Charles couldn’t talk when she asked him out and somehow that’s what she did to Ben.
SMART!!! That’s got to be it!
You might be right, but I hope it's not her. That would devastating for Charles to have another girlfriend turn out to be the murderer!
Oooh interesting!°°
8:30 - You did it again. You erroneously referred to Cinda as "Cindy".
For the sake of the readers, I will mention again that Cindy is a different character, one who was played by Anne Stringfield (Steve Martin's wife).
The season 2 killer reveal was so disappointing. Felt rushed & I was hoping for some mindfuck story, motive and reveal.
It was a different kind of mindfuck... wait, PopBecky went BACK to Oklahoma in disguise?!?
i think the way lucy looks at ben or paul rudds charcter when the curtains open is clue that they might be dating or something like that maybe flirting but chales finds out and dosent approve of benn
But that would mean he is dating a minor since Lucy was only 15 years old. Perhaps he was the step Dad?
Paul Rudd's Ben Glenroy - on this week's episode of To Catch A Predator :)
@@michaelwestern11 ye true but who knows he might not feel the same about lucy also she's almost always there when charles is at set filming i think its a reason in season 2 that lucy is always following charles on set for brazzos.
I think he's one of her step dads
Are we ever gonna get to know what happens to Charles dad
he died that's it
@@cookiesandmilk686 why did he have blood on him tho when he got arrested
@@damianespana9753 we don't care
I figured just fist fight with Rose's abusive husband? Maybe he came home early and caught then in the act