Windows 10 Feature Updates and Extended Support
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Windows 10 loses support on October 14, 2025. So why is Microsoft opening up the beta channel for Windows 10 again? It turns out they're planning some feature updates. We have also gotten some great news regarding extended support for Windows 10. Maybe there's a few more years of life left in Windows 10.
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I don't plan on paying a dime to Microsoft for an extended support. And I don't plan to switch to 11 either! In a year or so, my dual boot might just turn into a single boot. The idea is not set in stone yet, but chances are high though.
FACTS
If your computer can run virtual machines, you could run Windows 10 in a VM with a "host only" network so it isn't exposed to the Internet. I've done that with Windows XP so I can run Office 2003, and the combo is wicked fast with only 2 cores and 1GB RAM.
I already left, all my games work and I'm not tied to "needed for work" anymore. So much easier these days.
@@GoonyMclinux It is, really! My main OS has been Linux since RedHat was a free distro.
After all these years though, I still can't fathom how to run Windower + FFXI under linux. It's the Windower part, the launcher, that seems to be the problem.
Other than that, it looks like Mint that I'm using today doesn't provide drivers for my HOTAS I'm using to fly in MSFS. This can be fixed with drastic measures, I suppose : change HOTAS or change distro.
Those 2 are literally the only reason I'm still having Windows10 on my computer :)
@@javaman4584 Do you think there will be any risk to using a win 10 computer on the internet after 2025?
0:26 no more feature updates? Just security updates? Finally. It is better if the OS just works than "putting a steering wheel to the trunk".
Not only that, he's promoting the insider program. "Hey everyone, want to be a windows beta tester? I'll tell you how to do it without a Microsoft account!"
And that is how 7 was. It just worked and the gui was intuitive, W8-W11 is not very efficient
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM NOT ON MINE.
That's why I only use the LTSC releases. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is built on 21H2 and it won't be losing support until January 13, 2032.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAMIt will only be coming to 22H2. Fortunately Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is based on 21H2.
I had 11 one, and immediately uninstalled it, and installed 10 instead. :p
I hope at least one of the incoming new "feature updates" for W10 bring a fully 100% working Dark Theme since it´s original was never fixed and remains as a half finished job, time to get back to work M$!.
There was the POS hack for XP that enabled us to get extended support for years, for free. That was properly cool.
End of life windows 10 in 2025 is funny while the rest of 68% market is windows 10.
Yeah
And I think if windows 10 keep at least 51% of the market until to October 2025, they will add others 5 years to the service... Or I hope so
I dont think its old computers holding people back . My PC is perfectly capable of the upgrade, but I have no desire to do it . For what ? If it aint broke , dont break it
the saying actually goes "if it ain't broke don't fix it" lol
@@sumbodee3 really? I never heard that ......
I like mine better
if you intend to use it, setup a firewall (PfSense is free to install on a old PC with 2 network cards) behind your PC + Applocker + a good Anti-virus.
Has modern society forgotten about using security software at all also disable your TPM2.0 and uninstall it then you shouldn't be forced an upgrade it's that simple make sure you have a Windows 10 flashdrive back up from the website and back up the Windows 10 iso in another flash drive as storage in case Microsoft removes it so you can have it for later use.
Same here. Why should I when for the brief period I had it, Windows 11 was kind of a nightmare to use (especially early on when it was extremely unstable)
I should never have switched to Windows 11. Please do not make the same mistake.
Go back!
You should be able to re-install Windows 10 without any issues. I upgraded one of my laptops to Windos 11. Had to force update it because my laptop doesn' support it, in fact none of the computers at my home support Windows 11. After a few months of using it I got fed up with it and put Windows 10 back on.
Windows 11 Is Pre-Built In My PC :(
At least I have windows 10 pc that does not meet minimum requirements for windows 11
It’s the intel pentium gold processor that is the problem
The fact you can't upgrade many old Windows 10 computers to 11 is a deal breaker. Not everyone is able to go out and buy a new computer because Microsoft wants to increase their invasion of your privacy.
I keep seeing where Microsoft keeps telling the 70% of people that are still using Windows 10 that you need to hurry up and upgrade to Windows 11 before Windows 10 support stops in a year. They're having a hard time understanding why they're are still 70% of Windows users using Windows 10. They are morons, because they can't understand the fact that these 70% of people are using older computers (not ancient) that run Windows 10 beautifully and does everything they wanted it to do. Windows 11 even though it will still run on these computers just fine will not install if it does not meet certain criteria which includes a new enough CPU and has TPM hardware certification. Completely unnecessary for both of those. So they're telling 70% of people that they need to go spend $1,000 on a new computer just so they can use the newer Windows 11 making Microsoft happy. I have heard and read articles that Windows 11 is not all that impressive of an upgrade from Windows 10. I have four computers in my house all running Windows 10 beautifully, three of them will not upgrade to Windows 11 because of their older hardware which is stupid. Only my newest gaming/editing computer can and so far I refuse to. Everything since COVID is three times the price at least and they want people to go dump this money on a new computer for the sake of Windows 11. They are just stupid.
My linux PC came with win 11 before i put Pop OS on it. . I don't really know the benefit of 11 over 10. I still run 10 on my main PC.
I know right? I've upgraded my older systems from Win10 to Win11 and I actually can't tell th e difference.
Microsoft telling us to upgrade with a photograph.
I will share that pic in few hours
Good comment and I agree with everything you said. Being a Senior and having 3 Win 10 systems, I don't want to bump up to Windows 11. Plus I don't want to get that so called RECALL feature that records everything we do on the computer.
Take care.
Why upgrade when my Win 10 system is extremely stable and does everything I need? I tried Win 11 but saw no point to it and went back to 10.
Windows 11 looks very much like 10 and you can't hardly tell the difference if the start menu looks the same. I'll assume you just got hung up on the start menu issue.
exactly, there is no benefit and for some people, there is actually downsides to it, for me, i need my taskbar on the top or the sides because my monitor is messed up which only win10 can do (and still having good security)
@@fsafdshiuasdh I hear ya, a messed up monitor is no fun. You might consider saving up for two side by side monitors. Once you have two monitors, you'll never go back.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus i do but it’s really bad, got from side of road
@@fsafdshiuasdh LOL, don't you know by now three things you never do at the side of the road?
1. Eat Road Kill
2. Pickup women standing around
3. Take and use discarded monitors.
😅
At my age, Win 10 will see me out.
I've tried Win 11 and still go back to my Win 10.
Honestly, most of the difference is the start menu and taskbar. Which can be fixed with explorerpatcher or startallback
@@XTaskPassX Windows 11 is just a fresh coat of unneeded paint for Windows 10. It's made to appeal to the next generation of people, also basically a smart system, and of course I know Windows 10 is spyware, 11 just tacks more on.
I use Windows 10 LTSC Iot, it has support until 2032, it has the lowest mouse latency and works perfectly.
@@George_C-e4v What is 10 LTSC version? Thanks
@@ethimself5064Just Google Windows 10 LTSC
MS has been through this many times before... Win98 SE, Win7 and now Win10. You'd think they'd learn what their user base wants and yet they keep forcing changes into the users that only MS wants.
Since most Win 10 computers are not compatible with Win 11, there is no way I am buying a new computer just to get a new operating system which which has features which I will never use.
Their CPU requirements are idiotic. I have a Xeon W-2140b. It was made OEM for Apple, along with another Xeon of the W-21xx line. Microsoft supports the line, but not those two non-retail CPUs.
i can kinda understand that they sort some rly old hardware out too make maintaining more easy specially cuz some old prcessors dont understand new instruction models wich are more efficent...but this high levels are rly idiotic....specially when u consider that they first wanted to just do everything after 9 or 10th generation and then recognized their own surface laptops still use 7th gen...so magically they decided to support the 7th gen aswell...
@@timramich Did you even try the CPU with the registry entry that avoids CPU check during install? I've done it on a few machines and the install goes through and the operation is what you expect.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I have never even tried Windows 11, and I will not try it. First off, I am not hacking it to install it on hardware that isn't supported. I am not installing a TPM chip to use my OS. I am not going to be using unsupported hardware just to have updates disabled at a whim (which is what they say COULD happen if you do you unsupported hardware). I am not using an OS that I constantly have to battle to stop spying on me. To dodge bullets of AI thrown at me from every angle.
@@timramich yeah, I can see you got some issues there. Good luck. 👍
Here's the thing. The majority of Windows users do not want Windows 11. The proof is in the numbers. The best thing to do is... NOTHING. If people refuse to switch, and they refuse to buy PCs with Windows 11 on them, and they refuse to pay Microsoft for extended support.. they will have no choice but to continue support. Personally, I am on Linux now, but I do have a couple Windows 10 installations for occasional use. There are most likely even less Windows 11 users than they realize. I still have a Windows 11 PC listed on my MS account and I nuked that months ago. I am certain there are many more ghosts they are confusing with real computers. We the consumers have the leverage right now. What does Windows 11 have? Maybe 20% of the market?
It kinda makes sense since the regular Joe can't upgrade their old laptop to Windows 11 because of the TPM requirements. And I'm pretty sure you can't upgrade the TPM on laptops. that's why Windows 11 has a small user base
Didn't work with 7 and won't work with 10
@@UltraCenterHQthey can install it. THEY DON'T WANT TO... i installed W11 even on 2600K, and it was kinda stable and running good. But i don-t use it regular, and i don t use MS accounts.
Remember when Microsoft said that windows 10 would be the last version ever, just rolling updates. Now we have version 11 and 12 on its way.
@@robertpettit6619No I don't remember. Where did they say that?
If they’d stop adding more and more things people dislike to Windows 11, maybe more people would transition to it.
True. However, M$ has made it clear that they want their "operating system" to completely transition to a network marketing and targeted advertising platform. If Win11 can't be pushed onto a sufficient portion of the market, they can simply slide those "features" into Win10 at some point. Their intent is clear, however they end up pursuing it. It's time to move to an alternative like Linux.
What more and more new things are they adding that people are hating?
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus some telemetry? Or maybe telemetry? Oh, did I mention telemetry?
More Candy Crash in PRO (PROFESSIONAL!!!!!) version of windows? With other trash apps in the same pack.
@@Gelonyrum When Windows 10 was released, it came with Candy Crush Saga pre-installed for those who upgraded to or downloaded Windows 10 during the launch. So, if you were rocking Windows 10 back then, you probably had a taste of those colorful candies right out of the box!
Windows 11 didn’t continue the tradition of pre-installing Candy Crush Saga, but you can still get your candy-crushing fix by downloading it from the Microsoft Store.
I have never played Candy Crush, but tons of people do.
As for Telemetry,
During installation, you can limit some telemetry but for more, do this;
Using the Settings Menu (Windows 11):
Open the Start menu and click the Settings icon.
Navigate to Privacy & security and then Diagnostics & feedback.
Expand the Diagnostic data option and toggle off the Send optional diagnostic data setting
-------------OR/AND---------------
Open the Start menu and search for “Services.”
Select Services (Desktop app).
Find Connected User Experiences and Telemetry.
Right-click it and select Properties.
Change the Startup type to Disable
-------------OR/AND---------------
If using the Professional version of Windows,
Press Win + R, type gpedit.msc, and click OK.
Under Computer configuration, expand Administrative Templates and Windows components.
Select Application Compatibility and then Turn off application telemetry.
Choose to disable or enable application telemetry and click Apply and OK
A couple clicks later, reboot and check your network packets, if you know how.
I won't switch because it's fundamentally flawed. Just the UI itself has changed too much. And the privacy nightmare is something on which they're not gonna budge.
ok, hear me out: if its needed a lot of money (from Microsoft) to support a operating system. why make another one when the previous was good enough to everyone?
Computers and computer languages are progressing in what they can perform. Advancement that shouldn't be stopped.
People don't want to just accept what their grandparents used to do and live like them. Life is not static, Everything changes except for God, death and taxes.
If you don't want change nor see it as opportunity, that's your personal decision. Opportunity doesn't happen when everything is static and unchanging.
Take advantage of the future.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Or maybe Win-11 is a better platform technically to progress their agenda re: spyware, bloatware, compulsory ads, Bitlocker on by default (OMG!) & all the rest, than Win-10. H/W manufs would probably love it too if it forces us to junk all the perfectly good h/w. Shame about the planet. But that's not their problem
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus And landfills are full of technology that was crap. Either poorly calculated or just plane junk someone put out to make a quick buck. Not everything new is good. And when you're a monopoly, they don't have to give a damn.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesusya windows users hate the concept of updates & they always have lol
@@anthonytitone because the 'updates' are fake features with a sales pitch and a data collection EULA.
I would sooner switch to Linux than use windows 11.
I really miss the days of Windows 2000 Pro. No activation or telemetry crap. Those were good times. I'm still using Windows 7 from time to time.
I was planning to switch back to Windows 7, once October 2025 comes along but Steam put an end to that for me as I would lose access to my games. I'm holding out for someone to come along with a work around to trick Steam into thinking it's on Windows 10 or 11, then I'll switch back to Windows 7 in a heartbeat.
Windows 2000 was the last good version of Windows, even if it was just NT with more bloat.
I miss the days of Windows 3.1. You had to be almost a hacker to get a TCP/IP stack running but what fun it was between constant crashes!
@@null5745
Windows 2000 was probably the best version for people who like to customise their version of Windows. It also allowed us to play classic DOS games.
@@arctic_haze
I still have a copy of Windows 3.12 (or something like that) and DOS 6 point something, on floppy disks. I kept them for nostalgia (although the only versions I used were Win 3.11 and DOS 6.2)
Tbh I've been dreading every feature update for windows 10 for years now since it just gets worse. Just getting security updates is the optimal windows experience
I was glad when it stopped with 22H2. Hopefully they aren't thinking of pushing any of that AI crap onto Windows 10 in future.
Update to windows 11 or piracy are the only options?
I would expect a Linux mention, like: "Or Not using windows anymore and get Linux. No licenses, no piracy, less bloat, more privacy."
yup, and I'll go old school and build from source like I used to, but there are still exploits which affect the doofus users out there that have qa lazy way of using the machine..
Every single video I've seen talking about 10's end of life and 11's /many/ problems inevitably has all sorts of comments about switching to Linux. After trying it myself, if my brother needed to he could switch rather easily since he only uses a browser, a text editor, and sometimes modded minecraft. They've pretty much gotten booting up and launching programs down pat, just as easy as windows or any other OS.
However if you've got a lot of technical knowledge on windows and you want to do the same things on Linux, be prepared for frustration, as the security and permissions mean /sooo/ many things take extra steps to do, and I find any errors that popup aren't always very specific and you might have to try to find the logfiles or something or just blindly try stuff until it works or more often just opening a terminal and running it with sudo. I've even had a few instances where the thing I tried /seemed/ to work, but in reality failed silently with no error message. And sometimes even /when/ I manage to get something working, whether it'll /keep/ working the next time I reboot is up in the air.
You guys are so cute for thinking you have privacy on your computers or devices. Meanwhile over at the DoD/FBI/CIA we have access to every single thing you do on any device you own the second it connects to the internet, and sometimes even if it doesn't. ;)
Linux is a good operating system but if it really intends to sway users on the fence it’s going to have to step up it game big time I mean 90% of windows users DO NOT want to type anything into the command prompt and I have to say from experience if something doesn’t go right in "Linux’s windows" you have no choice but to install apps via the cl and it’s not ’fun’
@@earl_gray I have the KDE desktop, and it is far from old fashioned. In fact there are hundreds of themes you can apply to make it look how you want it. You can even make it look exactly like Windows 11 lol. As for Linux showing it's age, well that's nonsense. Kernels are continuosly updated to support the latest hardware and my Nvidia card drivers perform almost as well as they do on Windows. Given that the games are actually running through the Proton compatibility layer, this is remarkable. However one of the pluses of Linux, is that you can find a distro that will run on just about any old hardware, so perhaps that's what you've been using?
im at win 11 now im thinking about going back to win 10 !!!
Lol.
Go for Linux instead of rubbish Win
@@Viggen66 I'll get rid of Windows after I get done playing my rubbish Cyberpunk 2077, and Smite 2.0 and a ton of other fun games.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus i got to many games to go with linux
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus most of them run fine with Proton, as with same performance as Windows Peer.
Oh no... All I want is security updates. Hope none of that AI bs makes it way into the win10 updates.
It might if you upgrade your edge browser.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I can just not use the app, while I cannot just stop using an operating system 😑
@@vinny5915 Obviously, that's why you don't use or upgrade the Edge app. Besides, the AI is not currently baked into the OS. For one, I do hope AI is always available, it has helped me so much I can't see myself without it.
Microsoft is releasing some updates for w10, to destroy it, exactly how they made with w7 (searching for updates forever problem) . 😢 Adding telemetry, and all kind of stuff to disturb users, with the hope they will transition to 11. Hope they follow Adobe soon. 🙏
I'm not going to 11 because I'm 80 years old and not going to buy new hardware. I don't do much on the computer except need an office program and be able to get on the internet so I went with Linux Mint. Pretty easy to use but lots of upgrades. I don't know what they are talking about, I just install the upgrades and everything keeps working.
Goodbye Windows, Hello Linux.
Nah. Linux sucks.
@@kaleidoscopeon Not as much as Windows 11 lol. 😆
I am moving over to Linux and eventually moving over to Windows LTSC IoT to be my Windows OS platform for everything I can't get to run under Linux.
I don't think I will switch to Win 11 until I absolutely HAVE to. I would LOVE to switch to Linux, but I like gaming and modding those games and Windows just offers much better support for that. I hate Windows 11, I used it for a week and couldn't stand how they removed basic functionality from the file explorer, start menu, taskbar. They need to extend support for MUCH longer than Oct. 2025
You'll have to cough up for that extra 3 years of Windows 10 support, but even then you'll be forced to move onto the next version of Windows afterwards.
Windows 10 is great enough for everyone windows 11 has a lot of security problems eg: spying on users with their screen shot technology also their ms account crap.
Goodbye, Microsoft. It was a wild and frustrating ride for nearly thirty years. Take care.
Nadella's Microsoft making a smart move with Windows? Nah, I can't believe it....
When you say, " I made a video right here..." at the end, there was nothing there.✌😎
When I was told I had to upgrade my hardware if I wanted to use Win 11, that was the sign I have ZERO interest in upgrading. Now with the new info coming out about the total abuse of privacy in Win 11 I am sold that I will NEVER eve consider upgrading to it! I am officially done with Microtrash after Win 10! As for the insider program, I will NEVER sign up for that because there is absolutely NOTHING useful to the OS they can gain from knowing what browser I use and what I am accessing online and that for whatever reason is the most important information they want and we should all be asking why and what is so critical to the OS stability they need to know what I browse and do online is?
Linux
You're beating a straw horse to death. They don't care what you browse for or are looking for online. You're not important and what you're looking for is not important. You probably confused nonidentifiable Telemetry data with the desire for personal data.
They are annoying my windows 10 after each update they automatically defaults my browser to ms edge.
@@WilliamHollinger2019 normally I help you with that problem cuz I got plenty of clients who are on Windows 10 and don't have that problem. But I'm running Windows 11 and using Chrome whike windows Edge isn't affecting me at all.
I am wondering what is the big difference between 10 and 11? Only a couple of visual things and some services that is not really needed. So keeping W10 updated is not that difficult because even when you look at it, a lot of the things are coming from W7 like some menu's and settings. It's just to make people buy a new computer.
Since Windows 11 isn't supported on older hardware I don't understand how they can end Windows 10 security patch support. It's just going to result in a lot of vulnerable PCs on the Internet.
One of these days, someone will create a viable alternative to Microsoft shoving whatever it wants down our throats. And those who care will gladly switch.
I've been slacking on doing this, but I REALLY want to create a video discussing Windows 11.
Microsoft really screwed the pooch on this one. I think Microsoft's requirements for 4GB of RAM, 64GB storage, TPM 2.0, and two or more cores is great put their arbitrary CPU requirements, having a Microsoft Account during setup, and their push for AI has made Windows 11 so damn unappealing.
If they supported older CPUs like Intel's 6th Gen and allowed these features to be "opt in" like Windows 10 (roughly) was Microsoft would have a better adoption rate I bet.
Microsoft's Minimum requirements for Windows 10 and Windows 11 is so meager that it is not entirely useful. Even the most basic computers nowadays exceed those requirements.
You don't have to create a personal Microsoft account during setup, you can put in a fake email address or login name and a fake password, once it boots create the local account and delete the Microsoft account. Done.
You also don't have to use the AI, which I find incredibly useful. Simply don't use Edge or just uninstall Edge.
Also if you're upgrading a Windows 10 machine to Windows 11 and the CPU is not supported the fix is just a simple registry addition and install will complete.
Make a video on these features.
I have used every home version of Windows. I now use Windows 11, and I like it yes I needed a new laptop but my last one was purchased in 2012. Linux is not an option as the learning curve is very steep and most want Windows compatibility. Apple is not an option either as you would also need new hardware and any repairs are a nightmare.
If you like Windows 11, then no need to look at any alternative. 🙂
How do I disable my Windows 10 Microsoft account? If I manage to do this, will I still be able to use Microsoft Office 365?
Windows 10 wasn't supposed to go anywhere. It's scaleable enough to be around for a lot longer than they are giving it.
Windows 10 name was just a moniker. The operating system was always going to be changed under the hood, progressing and brought into the future. That was the idea not to put money into advertising a new release when it was a new release already under the hood over time.
The new management felt otherwise.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus You can find the original version of windows 10 on the archive, I put it on a virtual machine. Pretty interesting just how different it was. We are already basically on a different operating system before windows 11.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I remember when a of my old games worked on Windows 10 when it first came out. Now I can't even install them as I get the message that the OS doesn't support it. I ended up installing Windows XP on VMWare to get all my old software working again.
Iif Microsoft was smart they would have built an XP mode or Windows 7 mode for Windows 10, only have it run natively in the background so you wouldn't even notice that an old piece of sotware you're installing or using is running through a virtual machine or have the hassle of setting Windows XP/7 up to do it.
I miss the old Microsot from the 90s/2000s. it's obvious that they gave up on building their OS to support old sotware once they released Windows 7, as Window XP can run every single piece of software that was built for Windows 3.11 onwards. I don't buy the excuse of them needing to change things to keep up with newer hardware because they always managed to do it in the past.
@@4TheRecord Your old games might have worked in compatibility mode. If not, know that Win 10 cannot run 16bit programs. You might note that while 32-bit applications are supported, 16-bit binaries or 32-bit drivers are not supported on 64-bit versions of Windows. If a program relies on 16-bit binaries or 32-bit drivers, it won’t run on 64-bit Windows unless the program’s manufacturer provides an update for the program.
Natively means running directly on hardware, not through an OS. You can't have two operating systems running natively at the same time.
The costs related to keeping backwards compatibility alive in an advancing OS and hardware environment is not worth the time, beyond what they already offer.
Windows 11 has a built-in virtual machine for one time use only.
There's really no hassle with making a virtual machine under virtualbox back in Windows 7 days and just keeping the file. It will always boot into virtualbox with no changes so you have all those games until you die with no further work on your part.
Also, remember our CPUs are 64bit so attempting to run 16 or 32 bit code can be problematic if not impossible based on other variables. MacOS Catalina and up strictly does not run 32bit code since 5 years ago, but Microsoft still supports it.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus you are correct. If im not mistaken, Windows 11 happened bc of a change in executive management. If that didn't happen, Windows 10 was the last OS for Microsoft. I wish I had the article with me. And Windows 10 was quite different back in 2015
They will have to lower the hardware requirements for windows 11 or there is going to be a class action lawsuit. The majority of computers will still be on 10 by then. I got past the hardware requirements on a virtual machine just to see if I could, but the vast majority of users are never going to do that.
I think the biggest problem is that Windows 11 upgrade isn't compatible with many older systems, which is silly.
We are all slaves to a Pharaoh, building Green Pyramids to Mars
🤣🤣🤣
We are making a pyramid of collected data to pharaoh Microsoft.
To Pluto. ( Sarcasm )
Windows 10 was the final version of Windows;at least thats how it was sold
The thing is they stopped making an Operating System and transformed it into a marketing bot that is getting worse and worse, taking away control from the user of their own hardware. That's why more and more people stay on older versions until there is no option left. Linux is a plan B, but sadly M$, their dominance on the market and the way they work with hardware corporations sometimes makes it very difficult to switch to Linux. That and the learning curve that may be an issue too.
Considering their current focus and the last things they added to Windows 10, I'm not sure we should assume a "feature update" will be a good thing. They could just as easily litter Windows 10 with more copilot stuff and ads in the start menu and stuff in the weather/widgets panel. Or they could just change random stuff to make it worse to make the jump to windows 11 be like a "might as well" conclusion
A future update that they're doing that should be well received is moving the entire control panel into their settings page and then allowing us to sort the settings panel alphabetically.
There isn't a damn chance I'm going to windows 11. That garbage can rot it hell. I hope they do a wind8/win10 situation where 8 is so bad they make a proper version next
What’s the bet the new features are the ones we didn’t want in windows 11.
Microsoft should declare Windows 11 End of Life and go back to Windows 10. Windows 11 has even more intrusive spying and unnecessary hardware requirements. Expecting the average person - or worse, someone with low income - to buy a new computer or be at risk of exploits and malware is just ridiculous. I have Windows 10 running on a twelve-year old computer and it's just fine. My main computers run Linux with Windows 10 virtual machines for specific purposes. Windows 11 is both unneeded and undesirable for me.
Would be the inverse of what happened w/ Vista. But, yes.
Vista got a bad rep out the gates for a myriad of reasons. Most of them were related to lackadaisical and uncooperative 3rd parties. So very many simple and common devices had lacking or non-existent support, *and* OEMs were selling PCs that did not have the specs to handle Vista. [My 'favorite' were the Celerons w/ 512MB of RAM.]
(roughly) By mid-2008, support had improved greatly, and all but the cheapest and worst PCs on the market could run Vista w/o a problem. That did not change the reputation Vista had already earned, and Msft had to 're-brand' Vista into Windows 7. See: "The Mojave Experiment".
TBQH, I find it amusing that "the most loved Windows" (7) *technically* ain't far-off from one of the most derided (Vista).
Personally, I was a very happy Vista Ultimate x64 user. With 2GB of RAM or more, and at least an Athlon X2, it was a joy. I 'held off' on moving to 7 for a good couple years, just because I wasn't seeing anything 7 'had' over Vista. (IIRC, DirectX support, etc. was what got me to move to 7)
Microsoft is paying millions for the developers? I think it's absurd and its all a sham. This is all company politics. Now, W10 has fully matured with little to no bugs. So, here's my question, why make W11 in the first place? Wouldn't it be feasible to just upgrade W10 to what they are trying to make in W11, ai mean it's just the software they have to tweak and play with, the hardware is already there, right?
I think they're smarting from the refusal of Recall
An option not mentioned is switching to Linux, now, I am not gonna push Linux down anyone's throat, just mentioning it as an available option
It's only for very certain type of people. If you love to Tinker with your OS, if you don't want to play the biggest name games, if you're more of a typing commands than a Mouse click kind of person, etc... Then there are more than plenty versions of Linux to use.
Although Linux is not mentioned in this video there's more than enough videos that mention it even from this channel.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus That's why I worded my comment the way I did, not that its the only route, simply that its there, plus, gaming on Linux is as good as it is on Windows, minus things with specific anti cheat. Plus, there are distros where its plug and play, no tinkering required
@@Lila_UrarakaYT I wish Linux was as good on gaming as Windows is. Some games are effortless to install and run just like it is in Windows, other games need special configurations, and some don't work worth a damn. Linux is always been behind in the graphics department from its Inception. X11 promised a lot of things, but it was just too difficult to deliver. That's not to say you can't play games on Linux but you have to see whether they are supported without wine, or others necessary software.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus give Proton GE a try with Lutris, it’s seamless
All my games work, I don't understand people's fascination with everything ever working on linux, everything doesn't even work on windows 11. 😂@@SpaceCadet4Jesus
if my computer is still operating next october I will be switch to linux. I have already have used puppy linux
Windows 11 was an unnecessary update. like every other Windows version, the new feature set, or limitations to use upsets Windows users. Many Microsoft Windows users would still be happy to be running Windows XP if Microsoft still supported it, and hardware manufacturers would be happy to accommodate XP users on their new machines with drivers and so on. Like with Vista, Microsoft wants to use the best modern hardware before the users are able or willing to upgrade to take advantage of the features. It's about time Microsoft and OEMs learned that the customer is always right.
I already PAID for the "privilege" of using Microsoft's OS. I don't plan on being a hostage for more money going to MS. I have built my last six desktops. What I have now will satisfy my computing needs for my personal work. Since I built my rig with high performance hardware I have no reason to throw that into a trash heap. I can and will continue to use Win 10 Pro. New hardware will not perform any better or any faster than my current hardware. My board does not have a TPM socket. That will not affect what I do with my computer. Win 11 does not offer any new features that I need. And I don't care one bit about Microsoft's new extortion plan. I know how to protect my computer. I built a new rig for my wife with Win 11. Win 11 has too many annoyances that could have been left out. I like the saying, "if it ain't broke, Microsoft will fix it 'til it is." If it ain't broke, leave it alone. Just because a program can be developed to do your thinking for you, doesn't mean it has to. There is no "artificial intelligence," people. It's a background program, written by software engineers, with automatic pre configured responses handled by a fast processor. That's all it is. Look at how many times people have received stupid responses from "AI." Why all the hype? The only place you need a copilot is in an airplane or ship.
For those of you who have a TPM socket on your board, how many of you have actually purchased and installed the TPM? It must not be that important to Microsoft to actually verify the installation. This is like a car salesman telling you if you buy this car, you can add xyz accessary for X dollars.
Windows has been jurking the public around for years.
Before "Word" caught on, I paid under $200 and a month later, it went to $500.
I see people with Apple that haven't had any problems with Apple computers.
If Windows wasn't so greedy with a now infearuar product, CyberCPU, wouldn't have a job fixing the Window computers. LOLO😅
Well I am not going to upgrade to Win 11 or Linux, and not going to pay outlandish pricings to extend security updates to my 3 Windows 10 systems. Windows 10 should still work for a while after support life has run out of time in Oct 2025.
I think Microsoft is just doing a money grabbing gimmick to get people on the bandwagon for support. The high pricings is Microsoft trying to force more people to get Windows 11. I will see what happens when Oct 2025 comes around.
Microsoft should be giving ESU for free for those systems that cannot be upgraded to Windows 11. Otherwise there will be a lot of systems that will prematurely end up in landfill. The environmentalists will be outraged and so should governments! Needless to say, that will not be good PR for Microsoft.
Can you guide us where to get a pirated ESU?
So Microsoft finally pushed me out of Windows use with the local AI junk & screenshotting. Spent the weekend backing up info I needed from my personal desktop & laptop to my workstation (will still run W10) and installed Linux Mint on the computers I use regularly.
Be wary of what these updates contain. Microsoft aren't doing this for the benefit of users.
Microsoft should just allow 11 o be installed to all the machines that can't currently do so and the market share will change overnight.
I'll bet the ESU pricing will be ridiculous especially as they have not released the price for end users yet.
"giving" us what we'd pirate anyways huh?
AKA there's gonna be a lot more pirating now people have the choice of either paying even more or going win11 lol
If microsoft weren't being stupid with windows 11 this would not be an issue. Like I have said on other channels, windows 11 home should run on older systems and if you want better security and full AI support and all the other bells and whistles you get windows 11 professional. companies are getting over paranoid about security. you can always put norton or any other security software on a windows version of 11 home that runs on any PC. get real microsoft and cater for people who cannot afford to update and stop dictating to us.
Tpm and supported cpu lists are bs. You can go over them. If your cpu supports SSE 4.2 instructionset and popcnt that comes with it, it can run w11 just fine.
What MSFT needs to do is remove the batshit Win 11 system reqs, I mean how does it make ANY damn sense that a Walmart $150 craptop with a bargain basement intel N100 is perfectly acceptable for Windows 11 but a Ryzen 1700x isn't?
you might want to buy a new computer more often than once every 15 years
I'm using Linux since over a year now.
Micro$hit can go and FAQ themselve.
Don't bother with their BS ever again!
Sir I'm some one who watched your videos of fixing uefi boot loader but still stuck at boot loop But when I try to boot up with legacy boot loader it boots up To play valorent it needs secure boot up which I can't do in legacy mode please help
They are the one making it nearly impossible for some to make the change to Windows 11, make the TMP 2.0 and CPU restrictions or requirements and BAM They will get their wish.
Ya know I hate to rain on somebodies parade. When it comes to Microsoft they really do it themselves. What they will do is turn windoes 10 into 11. They will fill it with all the features we do not want.
Hopefully they are not "adding features" that break Win10 so we will have to upgrade to 11.
I think they have to. SO MANY businesses use 10. My company alone uses over 7K Windows 10 installations. Imagine the millions of others.
Much of those use proprietary software for Windows 10 alone.
This is not good. Read between the lines, this is MS trying to scout out how many people are willing to pay for an OS as a service.
feature updates to make it worse. like the taskbar ads
I agree with you but microsoft could also lower some requirements for windows 11 like tpm and processor requirements because you can run windows 11 on unsupported hardware and works just fine so then they wouldn't have all the issues and missed off windows users
Microsoft should just axe 11 and go back to supporting 10 lol (a guy can dream)
I will absolutely not give a dime to MS...I paid close to 300 Bux Canadian for win 10 pro 64 bit....Crack it will be.
Frankly I don't give 2 shits about windows security updates.
Lets see if you can help me out with a windows 10 problem. When you have created a folder and have assorted file types in it and and taken the tick off Autoarrange. Then set files up in a certain way. This setup does not stay when you move away from said folder whereas in XP you could reboot and it would remember the way files where arranged. Can you help out ?
asking people to pay to use a product they paid full price for is not reasonable. i wont be subscribing if thats your take
This is why I just went to Nobara Linux. Love it!!!!!
I'm the laziest man in Linux, so Nobarba is great for me.🤣
I will not upgrade to Windows 11. I will continue using Windows 10 until I learn Linux.
your a good man l.i.archer
Linux mint is a friendly start
In light of the Windows 10 end of life, I bought a refurbished PC, and made the decision a few weeks back to switch back to Linux. I used Linux for a good few years before having to change to Windows 10 (due to needing one software package) , but these days, I can run the odd program in a VM.
I hate windows 11, they need to remake it to windows 12 and make it more like 10.
Long time Windows 10 LTSC user here and still loving it.
Guys we gotta get windows 10 to 69% market share!
I'm waiting to see if Win 12 is acceptable before switching from Win 10. I keep reading that Win 11 is a dissater.
You're reading it from the wrong places. From launch until even today, it's a highly stable better running system than Windows 10. The only people that are saying Windows 11 is a disaster are naysayers trying to get you to run something else.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I think calling Win11 more stable than Win10 gets you a tard award.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus and the only people singing its praises are Microsoft Shills... so yea
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Windows 10 was a peerfectly stable operating system that conveniently only ever started giving me problems a year after 11 came out.
@@mpf1947 I bet you I could have fixed those problems and returned your Windows 10 to the same stable operating system it always was.
I have put too much time and money upgrades into my older desktop i.e. ram, ssd, nividia g-force ect. I am not going to start over, I will switch ti linux and be happy.
I don't think it was Microsoft that required you to change your RAM your SSD or your video card, unless that computer was extremely ancient.
Do a bit of research and try a few distos first, with a dual boot system. The when Win 10 is EoL, it will make the transition much easier.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus The expect you to upgrade your CPU, and upgrading the motherboard may be required to do that, likely with new RAM required for the new board because DDR5 came down in price so DDR4 slots were discontinued, and now the drivers for your GPU probably don't play nice with the newer hardware they're connected to.
@@ShinyHelmet not sure how to dual boot, sounds interesting-I will look into it. thank-you for your advice.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus you are right, I have a refurbished 2012 h.p. sff desktop. I am on disability and can not afford very much. I could of stayed with the 4 gigs of ram but I wanted it to be faster. and the older amd cpu only supported 720p hence the graphics card , and the disc hard drive ran o.k. but would take 2 and a half to 4 minutes to boot. now it takes less than 1 minute. it is not windows 11 compatible. but runs pretty good now, so whats a guy to do.
Nobody wants win11. Win is pushing all this crap nobody wants. They are so out of touch with their customer base.
They'd never cared about users needs or wishes, their development is only based on different disguised mechanisms of collecting users data for marketing purposals to be selling to third parties. The user experience was never the target of their development that's why they keep presenting useless features that nobody want or asked, and W11 itself is the pinnacle of their conception taking users as a dummy money generator.
Windows 11 is aaaasssssss...so too was longhorn and vista.
I understand MS wanting to start from a fresh(er) codebase for W11. However, they should have made the interface and features as close as possible to W10 to get adoption. W11 (I use at work) is still missing many small but important QOL features (desktop toolbar on the taskbar, actual menus in File Explorer, full context menu in File Explorer, toggle using tabs in File Explorer, choosing audio output device from the taskbar volume icon - to name a few) that W10 has that I'd rather not give up, thank you much.
Personally part of the appeal of Windows 10 22H2 (for me anyway) is that they've/they'd stopped messing with it with "feature updates" that add more unnecessary junk that no one asked for (like Co Pilot or Recall).
If they start reversing that now it'll probably accelerate my deciding whether to try and migrate away completely to some variant of Linux - not something that I particularly relish. I've been a Windows guy since Windows 3.1/NT both personally and professionally but I am not a fan of where they're taking the OS in the last few releases with built in ads, telemetry, demands for online accounts etc.
If the Linux community could get its act together and standardise on one "default" choice that would be a big start. My other issue is trying to find a replacement for the Server-Client model offered by Active Directory. If I could do that and replace my Server 2019-Windows 10 home domain then I'd be very tempted.
Question, if I roll back to windows 10, will it undo any installs or changes since the upgrade?
Likely yes. You'll be the first one to try it out, but I believe it restores your Windows 10 registry which doesn't contain the later install information.
If they dropped the requirements on older pcs in the beginning when when they was givening birth to win 11 I would have accepted the auto installation if they give to Older pcs
I think the thing goes further than just hardware requirements, W11 doesn't offers such improvements to users that motivate the "upgrade", in fact it would be a downgrade in several aspects. That said plus hw requirements plus bloatware plus advanced spying AI plus bit locker plus copilot plus recall... you can understand why more of the 80% of people don't want W11. My system, for instance, always met the W11 requirements but I choose not to "upgrade".
Hi, Great video, thanks for all this videos that you do on 10 and 11. By the way the link to that other video didn't appear, can you let us know its title so we can go find it? Cheers
i don't know why people hate windows 11 but i mean even the most popular youtubers are doing this same, there are definatly flaws with windows 11 but on the brighter side it just works fine, there is not any genuine reason to hate windows beside it utilize a bit more ram, we are in 2024 and there are still some folks using windows 7 and there is not any argue on the reputation of windows 7, i love it and use it a lot previously, i have a i5 6th gen with 8gb of ram 128gb off ssd and i install windows 11 by following the windows 11 requirement bypass guide officially released by microsoft instead of hating windows 11 by just watching youtubers to satisfy your ego we must give a try to it and as far as consered about linux, it is not for everyone most of the people even don't know how to run the terminal infact they barely even used terminal even in windows, i guess you must give a shot to windows 11 i was very much like most of the people who are in the comment section untill i give it a chance and it never dissappointed me, remember no hate to any of youtuber...
The issue with me isn't Windows 11 itself. It's the system requirements. While there are ways around that, it's still an issue for many people.
As a tech, I don't recommend bypassing the system requirements. Primarily because you have to use workarounds for every build update. I will do it for a customer but I will warn them of the downsides.
I think the issue for many people is privacy concerns with microsoft. people also do not want to create a microsoft account just to install an operating system. the new AI feature Recall was not well recieved and its just another tool for microsoft to collect and profit from people's data. I believe microsoft is in for a rude awakening next year when they see how many people are still refusing to update to win11, by staying on win10 or by moving over to linux. its going to be interesting to see what people do once win10 support ends next year. In my case i'll be moving over to linux. I'm already using it on a spare computer to get a feel for it and hopefully get used to using it before switching on my main day to day computer.
I have now installed Zorin OS, works flawlessly.
Ah another zorin os enjoyer. I love how you can make it look like windows or even apple oses
Considering the cost of ESU in the past I'll stick with Linux now that I've gone ahead and moved my main machine over.
The i7-6700K which doesn't have windows 11 support is exactly the same as the i7-700K which does! So the answer is is for microsoft to lower the system spec for windows 11, even down to the sandy bridge CPU's.
Many of the system files will require the POPCNT CPU instruction from the Windows 11 kernel to the USB XHCI drivers, meaning that any processors without it cannot run the operating system. If Sandy CPUs cannot support this then, No Go.
POPCNT was made standard in CPUs in the mid-2000s starting from AMD's Barcelona architecture, followed by Intel's first-gen Core i-series processors.
This means that PCs manufactured in the past 15 years shouldn’t be affected by this new Windows 11 requirement. It also shouldn’t affect modern PCs unsupported by the OS, so those who've managed to find a workaround would still be able to run Windows post-update.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Sandy Bridge has POPCNT support, but Core2 users are out of luck.
My i7-7700 doesn't support Win11, so the update page tells me. Perhaps it's my MB, but even still, good luck finding a functional MB of this generation. I'm afraid this machine is just going to move across to the penguin world, I'll leave the Windows 11 playing on my work computer only.
@@KegRaider My asus z170 is fitted with a TPM module and the only check that fails windows 11 is the cpu. I'm not about to buy a 7700k to test.
Microsoft really wants uses to use a Microsoft Account, so they recently crated a guide on how to convert from a local account to a Microsoft account
They also have a guide on how to change a Microsoft account into using a local account. I fail to see your point.
Thanks for a good video! Your desktop pic on your test system is great. Post it up somewhere for us, maybe?
Plot twist: they'll force Windows Recall into Windows 10 and make it optional for Windows 11 for a while. And then once everyone switches to 11 because of that, they'll stop Windows 10 and make it required for Windows 11. Subscribe for more ideas!