Windows 11 24H2 is WORSE THAN Windows 8 | RANT:30
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Windows 11 has a massive update coming soon: 24H2. First, there are some new things that some people will like... AI stuff like voice clarity, notepad with AI, AI on the desktop... god help us.
Otherwise, it's a massive screw you to power users. MS is locking down the interface more than ever. Fighting to disable apps that change things (hopefully updates will fix the issues), but it looks as if they want you to use the computer their way rather than your way. Just watch the video. I don't feel like typing anything else... here's some of this nonsense: #windows11 #windows10 #windows8 #startisback #open-shell #explorerpatcher
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Microsoft has to understand that once we power users start going to linux, and get confortable there, we are not coming back.
I expect it won't just be the power users. On Linux (lets use Mint as an example), I can have a copy of firefox to watch all all the cat videos I want and there is a solitaire game. That covers 99.9% of what a computer is really used for and it doesn't need a TPM chip.
Microsoft does not care about power users. Their market is OEM and business.
You have no power in Linux.
@@1pcfred sudo get power
Microsoft is fine with that TBH. Windows doesn't exactly make MS that much money. People like your mom and grandma will gladly stay on W10/W11/Whatever Apple Calls their Desktop OS.
its safe to say that if it wasnt for security reasons, most people would still be using windows xp and 7
I'd even take Vista over the BS that 24H2 is imposing on us...
I liked the Vista UI a lot. I would take the speed and capabilities of 7 and the UI of Vista to get the perfect Windows OS.
Use Common Sense. I Still Use 7 Myself.
@@himmelskibet 7 is not secure, otherwise I would be using it. And a lot of apps like Chrome have dropped support for it.
I would def still be on 7
For me deal breaker was when 'My Computer' became 'This PC', implying that the PC is no longer mine...
Its your master that controls your life...
Try the big updates and install process "hang on.. just a moment" then.. "All yours now" < Shouldn't have been "all mine" to begin with? Arghhh!
that sounds pretty childish tbh
@lunar6629"Some have multiple computers"
You must be fun at parties...
Its still Personal
Thats what annoys me, Not the ads, The control over MY PC. I do not need someone telling me what I can install on it.
As a Linux user I actually agree with a lot of your points here, and I don't pretend Linux is the silver bullet that we want it to be yet, I just got really tired of all the ads, broken code, and straight up data theft
I use linux on lots of my systems... but I can't on my main because the music programs I need don't work (VSTs mostly)... The creative crowd is hostage to windows or MAC
@@teksyndicate that's exactly what I aim to fix personally, a lot on Linux has gotten better overall, but audio issues still plague us, I and who ever is willing to contribute will work on this soon, though don't expect much too quickly, it'll be my first major project after all
@@KCKingcollin the linux community should start a system where contributors are paid , not just applauded , or just taken for granted
@@edwardmacnab354 you mean like donations? Lol
@@KCKingcollin well for one thing they should start making huge corporate users pay some kind of user fee , but I suppose they will still then keep ripping the linux community off by clandestinely incorporating open source code in their own proprietary software
The Microsoft ceo told the programmers to prioritize security. Then they bricked vpn’s 😂
These are different things entirely and unrelated.
@@profosist not necessarily if Microsoft decided everything 3rd party is a security risk
@@Jafar-dr6to what are you even talking about...
If it's the warning about installing the app that's related to Windows Defender. Look at things like Smart Screen it's affected a number of things in the past.
@@profosist Microsoft has always preferred to have 3rd party software certified
Gotta secure your private data on our servers!
How about that stupid right click menu, where the most used cmd's are under "more options" Pisses me off 10 times a day.
WinAero Tweaker can disable that for you
Still on Win 10. Nothing moves me to 11
I jumped off the Windows Wagon when the first foreshocks of ads being experimented with in the file browser hit us. I switched to Linux then, and it's been interesting to say the least. (Using a newbie distro, Mint, for reference.)
Certain things are ridiculously easy in Linux where I had some resistance in Windows. Things like recognizing printers is done seemlessly on Linux where if it sees the device on your network it will just add it to usable devices when you go to print. I've never had an easy time setting up printers on Windows. Another odd thing was I decided to install Microsoft Office 07 under Wine, and it gave me no hassle at all over my key. I've used this software cd/key since around 2008, and when I upgraded to Windows 10 it REALLY did not want me to be able to activate it. I ended up just having to leave the key in the software, keep using it while the activation timer kept giving me warnings, and eventually it gave in and just gave me my software activation. No such fuss on Linux.
Gaming on Linux really brings me back to my early days of computers for me (early 2000's in my case) where you can get most stuff to work, but you're going to have to work a little bit for it. If you stick to Steam it's really easy, but it gets more complicated when you want to run older games or mods. Thankfully the tricks you learn to get one game working will probably apply to many others. That sense of discovery really takes me back to when computers were new and exciting to me, as I didn't have everything quite figured out, and the possibilities of what the machine in front of me could do seemed endless.
The biggest downside of Linux for me is definitely the hard incompatibilities. There have been certain pieces of hardware that I initially thought I wasn't going to be able to run, like my GOXLR or my PCIe capture card, but with some headache I was eventually able to get running in some capacity. The biggest hurdle being, like you said, some of the creative apps not working fully or at all on Linux. One example for me being Vegas Pro. It's not supported on Linux, and only some older versions can run under Wine, and they come with big compromises. My options then are either to go without it, keep a windows install, or learn a new editing suite. The third option is probably what Ill end up doing, but I know thats a huge timesink and ball of frustration that I have to get through right off the start.
I do hope more people come to Linux. I don't think it will ever be the dominant OS, but I could see it being the one gamers use if it were to ridiculously easy to setup in 99% of games (right now it's probably 70% thanks to steam), and if the performance gap on Windows it has for games grew too big for gamers to ignore.
Linux isn't for everyone, but at least you can make it your own unlike Windows with all the telemetry, ads and other crap you don't want and it's free.
When i switched about 2 years ago, the printer thing surprised me. I had tried to do it about 10 years ago and it was a pain to get my printer working, but it looks like sometime in the interim, someone has put the time and effort into sorting it, and i agree, its a lot more seamless then Windows these days. Especially wireless ones.
I have been using Linux since Microsoft broke OS/2 Warp because I did not want to go to Windows 95. I have worked as a Linux Operations Admin with a DevOps team in the past so I am pretty expert with it.
Have you tried setting up a VM in VirtualBox for those apps that absolutely need Windows to work? I use a VM to run Quicken because what Linux is really missing is a good personal finance manager.
And I also have to use the VM to watch English Premier League Football (Soccer) on Peacock because they do an OS check and Peacock refuses to run on Linux because of "support issues". Never mind that ever other freaking streaming service runs great on Linux.
But I have to admit that I keep a Win 10 PC around for gaming and resource-intensive stuff like video editing. However, once W10 goes EOL I will probably get rid of Windows on the PC and just use VMs for those rare times I need to use Windows for something.
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@@ElTejanoLoco how is performance on a VM vs native? i have a 2tb ssd for linux on my pc out of the total, idk, 11 tbs i have on my pc. but i mostly use linux now so i think when i get a new 4tb ssd, i'll make it ext4 and use it as a buffer to transfer my old stuff to ext4 too, and i'll invert the current situation: only 2tb as ntsc for windows. anyway, i'd much prefer a VN over dual booting if performance isn't impacted. so how is it?
Ahh Microsoft, they've reinvented the wheel so many times now it's a square!
Cheers 🍻
And made it basically useless😜
Imo Microsoft is on a power trip where they think "we can do whatever we want and you'll use our product anyway because you're dependent on our software". The coercion they put their users through is insane, forcing them to sign into a Microsoft account, making it difficult to add local accounts, locking the UI withoutgiving any option to change it & frequently breaking 3rd party apps that try to let power users customize stuff, excessive telemetry, and syncing all your data into their overprices cloud services, that on top of years of legacy code baggage, inconsistent UI design with like 2 context menus and 3 half-baked settings menus.
Ignoring how evil it is, they don't realize that more and more apps are cross platform or have decent open source alternatives. In the short term this stuff works but in the long term they'll lose their audience once everyone finds out it's cheaper and better to just use linux.
More specifically 4 squares in a 2x2 grid arrangement
This is so funny and so true.
@@s1nistr433 The inconvenient truth. They can virtually "behind-hop" millions of users because they - can. Been observing this behaviour since Windows XP and they're not going to stop. Thankfully the process has been very slow, giving Linux developers enough time to make Linux better and more user friendly, which it is for about a decade now, but constantly getting better. One of the things I had to get used to with Linux is updating. Always hated updates on Windows, or changing the OS. Linux Debian, I installed it in 2013 and it's still running perfectly. Went from v7 to v8, v9... v12 throughout years and 3 different hard disks, 2 different computers.
Hostility toward customer needs has been accelerating in all areas of commerce in the last several years. It will cost them dearly.
Amen!
Doubtful
@ultravioletiris6241 why do you doubt, I dont think you understand how fed up people are, im staying on win10
@@hellishcyberdemon7112 Till they end security updates
@@hellishcyberdemon7112 I'm permanently switching to Linux and having an old laptop with Windows if I have anything I need
still using windows 10 there is no reason to switch to w11
I switched to win11 just because I service machines owned by other people that run win11. I hate it! My desktop will be going back to win10pro next week. My laptop is still running win8, still my favorite.
Win 10 is about to be cancelled and left with no update. For me it is critical not to become a guy who uses archaic windows XP or 7 windows 7
I bought a new laptop with windows 11 because my old windows 10 laptop died. The OS didn't survive past 7 minutes before I recoiled from disgust and installed windows 10. And I still could only tolerate windows 10, not like it. I lost too much control over the OS
@@m.n.4370 Who gives a shit? Then I'll be using an outdated Win10...
Win10 is ugly AF (more practical, but ugly)
Windows 11 taskbar is a disgrace to humanity.
Because it looks like every other Windows taskbar ever?
You a bit exaggerating 😂
@@GiraffeSweatersOnly to the blind.
Eh it's just a taskbar
@@GiraffeSweaters it has removed a lot of functionality, its a dumbed down taskbar and i dont know who asked for it, i dont know any person for whom the task bar was to complex to be used, that this had to happen
The one that gets me is that Microsoft, with the Windows 11 24H2 update, will be automatically applying Bitlocker encryption for all volumes on your device. Happens during the Windows install process but supposedly when you update an existing 23H2 system to 24H2. I DO NOT want my devices to have Bitlocker encryption on them, I have no need for that to occur and really, really hate that MS is making that an automatic/mandatory thing.
fyi there is a way to turn that off by adding a disabling key in the registry entry for bitlocker (works also during installation via cmd). Mental Outlaw just released a video for that.
@@KangMinseok Yeah, I know of the registry key for that, but I didn't know if that will remain/also apply if doing the update from 23H2 to 24H2. Every article I've been reading about that just talks about it's effectiveness during the Windows install process, not by an update.
I feel really bad for hard drive users
Bitlocker screwed me over more often than it saved me. All my important data is on an external encrypted drive anyways. Disabled bitlocker because I was sick of entering the recovery key every few weeks because it decided something must've changed about my hardware after every Windows update.
Then please, keep using Windows! Watching Microsoft torture you guys make us non-Windows users have a good laugh xD
I am in tech, working with Windows every single day. I have been growing increasingly disenchanted and frustrated with Microsoft and their non stop manipulation of Windows and their users. Microsoft has become increasingly intrusive and aggressive in their efforts to collect your data.
Same, I just switched to Linux on all my private machines. Using Windows at work is more than enough.
That's bc the MS revenue model turned to data mining, since they were unable to force everyone to actually buy a license key.
.... Wow, huge part of post DELETED. Guess some info not allowed?
@@raheesom I realize many don't pay for a key. For me it has gotten to the point where I would gladly pay an annual fee to use a version of Windows that leaves me the ability to use the O/S as I want to use it.
I manage and use a software/db intensive win10 image for work. Between monthly MS updates and macafee solidcore, every month is an uphill battle. 22H2 was a nightmare on our powershell scripts, and now we're testing for win11. This is going to suck. I have to say, tho, that win10 has deterred our wannabe expert users from "trying" things at work that they do on their home pc.
I only wish Linux were a real alternative. Don't get me wrong I work with both Linux and Windows every day and Linux excels in server roles but simply isn't meant to be a desktop OS.
Sitting on windows 10 until defeated or moving to Linux. There is no third option, macOS is garbage too
Once you go Linux you'll never go back. Arch + Xmonad is the dogs bollocks.
I made the same decision after trying 11 for a few months and luckily 10 will be supported until 2032 so you'll be fine for a good while unless a lot of 3rd party software start dropping support in the coming years ;)
MacOS is a nice and well working OS, but the owners are competing with Microsoft who's gonna lose more users due to "security" and various restrictions they are imposing on users. Things we users usually call "buttfexk" 😆
Main reason I'm still using Windows is the ease of installing and running games, especially games that don't have a Linux variant.
You don't need Linux variants if you're running Steam games. It's as simple as Windows: click to install, no messing about. The problem is non-Steam games that require Lutri, which works well but requires some fiddling and can be problematic at times. Older games are hit and miss and AMD gpus have better support than Nvidia.
@@MoultrieGeekstop lying for the love of god, there is still a lot of problems with ptoton, steam install is still a mess..etc.
@@roklaca3138 I'll have to inform my Steam games that they are a mess. Who knew?
@@MoultrieGeek I have a robust Steam Library and MOST of the games DO NOT work in Linux... I wish they did.... But its not that easy to game on Linux.
@@MoultrieGeek Exactly, I'm an Nvidia user, so Linux is a no-go for gaming for me. Tedious workarounds and tweaks are just not worth the hassle and don't fix much, the Nvidia Linux drivers really just are abysmal. AMD users are lucky their manufacturer actually cares about Linux support, they even have ROCm. I have an AMD-based Laptop running most of my Steam games with zero issues. It's night and day and it's all because of Jensen.
People often buy big, expensive high-resolution monitors *because they want more usable screen space*. Not usually due to having the visual cognition of a two-year-old. Then we have MS and the majority of current website creators tabletifying everything, scrolling down umpteen times to see content which should fit on an old 640x480 VGA display.
… It's somewhat akin to fitting a sports car with the same engine as a 49cc scooter.
Even with "printer-friendly" stuff e.g. statements, now it's triple line spacing with tiny fonts and acres of white-space. Requires FOUR sheets of paper? It could easily fit on ONE.
tables based layouts are not supposed to be used for new stuff. as far as i'm aware, flexbox layout is all the rage now for websites. where items can be made to fit with "flex-wrap: wrap;" for line wrapping items. but you can't prevent people from using the wrong tools
MS continuing to screw up desktop UIs is so damn baffling. Windows Phone FAILED, guys. Surface tablet marketshare consists almost entirely of people who bought it at clearance prices or fished one out of a dumpster. There is no unified UI to keep chasing.
Meanwhile, insane things that EVERYONE HATES stick around. What kind of animal uses drag & drop to move text selections?!
I call it Fisher-Price oversized UI
@@xybersurfer Tablet (like the iPad). Not Table.
@@teknixstuff yeah that's what it says now. but that part could have been edited
This is the reason Apple does not put MacOS on the iPad and people don't understand why. Having different interfaces for different devices is good.
Apple not putting macOS on iPad is idiotic. The device is so powerful, yet so limited by iPadOS. It's a glorified toy.
Exactly, instead of dumbing everything down for the lowest common denominator. It's a bit like retro-fitting a Ferrari with a lawnmower engine.
Quote from Only Fools and Horses: "These are no Ordinary lawnmower engines. They're BROKEN lawnmower engines!"
Yeah... but at the same time the software is what keeps the iPad behind. A lot of power held back by the software. I still think MacOS with just a different GUI would be great for the iPad.
@@Hardcore_Remixer those that have use the service and send implemented in an environment can't understand why this isn't actually great. Just because things can do things doesn't mean they should.
A iPad just like a surface is best to use when they have a specific task or purpose that makes their form factor or function the best fit otherwise they're worse than most other things you could use for that same task.
it's nice to have the same Operating System on different devices though. it creates continuity. iPadOS as a GUI instead of a separate Operating System makes much more sense
Windows 8 looked like one of those Kiosks in stores ore restaurants.
You've listed most of the reasons why most of my machines are still running W10, even got one on W7.
Your "bad manager" analogy is excellent. I have been using Ubuntu for my writing laptop for years because when I am trying to work on Windows (even Windows 10, but even more so on 11) it felt like trying to concentrate in a daycare center.
All those popups telling you about Km Kardashian or Olli Murs when you're trying to debug an email routing problem.
i done have any issues on 10, maybe the odd weather report. never have since turned off years ago
I use Archlinux after the whole Ubuntu Amazon partnership unity scopes fiasco. That was Canonical's screw up and they paid dearly for it at the time. Hopefully SteamOS can attract some of the big player and power users to the OS. Hopefully, we have Lord Gaben for a while longer.
Once Windows 10 goes EOL, I might think about making the switch to both Linux and Mac.
@@OctavioGaitan You should be working towards Linux right now. Start by using programs that are available under Linux as alternatives to Windows only programs. It's not the operating system that holds you back, it's if your programs only work on Windows.
deal breaker for me, is not being able to move the task bar on to either left or right or top of the screen. It is LOCKED to the bottom of the screen. Like WHY?!
Same, I've had mine on the right side for like 15 years.
that's pretty crappy
There used to be a way to put a folder worth of icons on your taskbar; like a kind of "launcher" almost.
Never understood why they removed that; it was so useful. Sticking apps (ugh...) to the taskbar is so clunky compared to the convenience we used to have.
Unfortunately this has been the case since the start of 11. But task bar replacements have been an option to easily restore the 10 style taskbar and all it's features. These are the very options they are breaking with the latest update. Hopefully they will still find a way.
Absolutely, I think the designers at Microsoft with their 3 monitors don't quite understand that a laptop or a single monitor setup absolutely need the vertical space while keeping the taskbar active. When Apple is doing better job at UX, you know it's really bad.
Bro, I switched to Linux. All games working easily and everything is so fucking fast no matter whats installed. Never going back
I remember when everyone was laughing at Apple for lack of customization.
They still do 😂
What lack of customization, sounds like clueless users.
I miss Windows XP.
As an IT admin who manages a Windows environment for around 250 end users I can honestly say:
Windows 11 CONSTANTLY gets in the way of me doing actual work. Edge takes over PAID FOR copies of Adobe reader pro CONSTANTLY. It always tries to take away prefered browsers and put Edge in their place.
It installs 3 different versions of Teams (with out my permission) even though we need Teams (work or school) to do parts of our job.
When MS office fails, it takes down the entire OS with it causing me to have to re-image the PC which is hours of work for me, and hours of lost work for the end user.
Win 7 let us choose what updates we needed, Win 11 forces them on us no matter what.
When I set up a new Win 11 install for a new employee, I have to:
Uninstall about 10-12 apps that are not needed in a business world
Disable UEFI Encapsule Updates from the BIOS
Jump through hoops to get local user accounts to work
deny MS account control about a half dozen times so MS doesn't take full control of the PC
be completely mercilessly attacked by unwanted windows updates.
i quit my IT Manager job, too much stress. User issues, old server crashes, SQL issues and Ransomeware attack. Too much to handle for a few people.
Sounds like they should hire a real sysadmin...
Manageing Windows 11 is a different beast now. You really need to use Intune + Autopilot and use Intune policy settings to tweak it or GPO. Then you can control Windows Update, Start menu etc. You should not be doing manual setup anymore really. You can do it but as you see there are a bunch of blocks.
@@Sonyboj correct this is good info. You need to use the correct tools to manage things whether they be 1st party or 3rd party.
@@davidbriseno910 lol! they didn't wanted to pay. now they hired a company who monitor the power plant.
The last thing I want on my OS is it telling me I can't do something I want to do
Soon it will speak, too. One could maybe choose a German speaker. "Verbotten!" :)
Or Achtung!@@dddux
The drag & drop into the path bar was also something I used all the time! I'm so glad someone mentioned it, it was so weird when I tried to do it now on Windows 11 and it didn't work, then I looked it up and learned they removed it just because they felt like it (I think their actual reasoning was literally: "not that many people use it, let's just remove it"). The disrespect toward their own users is unreal.
I think one of the reasons Microsoft doesn't seem to care about cheap Windows keys is because there's no profit in them. Data mining is where they clean up, so I wouldn't be surprised if permanent ads on the desktop, or being forced to have a Microsoft account, become a reality.
forced to have a microsoft account is already here
@@iplyrunescape305 its pretty easy to skip that though,i did do that infact.
@@Damian-cilr2 it used to be possible but not anymore unless you use Rufus which does a registry edit for you on install. Some day that will be patched too. Microsoft is just allowing that method for now... Windows 11 knows it when you don't have a Microsoft account linked to the local user. some day it will lock you out until you sign in.
@@Damian-cilr2It became easier after the EU bitch slapped the hell out of Microsoft and told them that offline accounts need to be possible.
They're moving to a subscription model for most things. They don't care about the cheap Windows keys because they can charge you $6 a month for Office 365.
Customization is one of the most important things to me. Even explorerpatcher and openshell aren't enough. Windows should just have more customization options available for power users, i dont know why they don't..
indeed... on the new version of 11 I have to use all of those plus Start11 and Windowblinds just to get it to 80% of what I want.
I make do with Explorerpatcher because I really don't like having to run programs in the background at all times. It's enough to make it usable imo but I would like a few more options to perfect it.
I also run ShutUp10++ on every new install.
I miss the days of litestep 😢
Do you want customization and you aren't a FreeBSD user? What is wrong with you? xD
More and more they prove they dont care about power users
Desktop OSes are trying to figure out where they fit in and who their target market it as the landscape has changed. People who are not creating content, which is the majority, are rapidly moving to mostly using their phone or tablet when not at work. I've seen this with those in my own family who are not power users or PC gamers, they spend way more time on small screens devices than desktops. This is huge shift over the last ten years. Windows should be focusing more on the power users, business users, and PC gamers. Windows home as it stands is becoming irrelevant.
That's right. Desktop computers aren't nearly as popular as they were during the noughts and early 10s. A modern household can absolutely do away with WIndows if they have a smart TV (Android), Playstation console(s), several smart phones and pads that run iOS and/or Android. Unless you're using the computer for content creation - music, pictures, and videos, you don't need it.
I have completely debloated Windows 11 and removed my sign in details when logging in. Will these changes still effect me? Will I still need to switch to Linux Mint?
I knew it had gone off the rails when I went from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and when I inserted a USB drive it told me to "tap" to select it, on a desktop PC.
NT is the kernel, DWM is the window manager and it only exists since Windows Vista. Windows shell is the user interface, and it exists since Windows 95
Nah I just want my unix utils and bash and linux kernel. NT is a security swiss cheese nightmare. Windows is really only good for gaming still. However, Valve is making a pretty nice dent in that.
@@phoenixrising4995Valve does great work with Linux. I could never really make the jump because it didn't make sense if I primarily want to play games, but thanks to Proton, it's all good now. Not perfect, but certainly good enough for me.
I use FL Studio on my Mint install and it runs fine with Wine.. unless it's a specific VST you are having issues with?
in the Greek alphabet (Alpha Beta), Cairo is XP (Chi Rho).
Cairo shell is so called because 'Windows XP' was always called Windows Cairo.
... except that in Greek 'chi' is pronounced _chee_ and not "kai"
Only Americans seem to have the propensity to round ever 'i' into an "eye" sound. For most other Anglophones, and all non-Anglophones an 'i' always indicates an "ee" sound.
@@toonedin sure but that doesnt change the intent Microsoft had when they named it.
It's true that the shell is called Cairo Shell, but XP stands for eXPerience AFAIK.
@@dddux they are coincidental. it was a vague general reference to the Rosetta stone, bringing all of Windows under the NT shell while still supporting 9x to the extent tast it did, including drivers hw & sw. the eXPerience branding you refer was as much a rebranding of the plus from earlier 9x versions and later recycled as SXS in 7 & later as 'side by side'. all really non sequitor which is what we come to expect when Microsoft names something.
i realize it doesnt make a lot of sense anymore but it was their original intention behind the name.
Your Pepsi comparison illustrates a good point. They really should start releasing different versions of Windows. You could have a normie version of Windows which comes preinstalled and has all this fluff. But then they could have versions designed specifically for gaming or power users, or hell even a version specifically for VMs.
Eh its a bad comparison. The versions your talking about already exist. Windows Home is meant for Retail use and Pro is meant for Office work and power users. and for People who want no extra bells and trinkets (i.e power users) Windows Pro N. Then you also have Long Term Service Channel Windows 10 -2021 and IoT for systems that are meant in 24/7 uptime environment. It seems to me you guys are buying the standard Windows 11 and then having wrong expectations. Any way the whole philosophy behind Windows 11 Retail is to improve on Security standards, This by default limits people in capabilities which i think is a good thing because the overal majority of people on this planet do not know how to manage their system properly. You want less of that? buy a different Windows 11 version. Its not worse, its just not for you!
It already exists. It's called Windows Enterprise LTSC
@@markusTegelane I use W10 LTSC. Do you know if W11 LTSC will be out?
windows 11 workstation edition pro n thats what i use ram usage is literally half
@@artisanbusiness1314 Windows 11 LTSC will release on second half of 2024
I personally wish Microsoft could find a way to provide themes to make newer versions of Windows look and feel like previous versions, kind of like how 7 has the aero theme and the classic gray theme.
it already exists, it's called msstyles. MS simply doesn't care/doesn't want to bother with it due to them focusing on web-based apps instead of traditional win32 programs
also, i personally believe that microsoft doesn't have any experienced developers in their windows department anymore, as they basically only hire people for 18 months to not pay benefits to employees.
Google "Open-Shell"... makes my Windows 11 start menu look just like the Windows 7 start menu.
(Why Microsoft does not have that choice "built-in" is beyond me. Micro-Controlling Gobshites.)
Windows XP SP3 (even "ZverDVD" repack) always gonna have special place in my heart.
Ah, and Windows 7 too.
Had an ex microsoft emplyee help build a PC last year and he was adamarnt about keeping windows 10.
He literally called 11 'windows 8' all over again.
Start going to Linux? I'm actively pushing people to Linux! No more Windows in my house, period!
The backbone of my house is Linux (servers, nas, etc.)... but I'm hostage to Windows on my main
good luck supporting all those people on Linux
@@xybersurferI've had far fewer tech support requests and they are vastly more about user forgetting something simple with Linux (Pop!_OS mostly) than "Microsoft pushed an update that prevents my software from running" or "Microsoft pushed an update that slowed down my whole system" which is most of my Windows tech support requests.
Doors allowed still?
@@xybersurfer So far there's less need for "people-support" on Linux when compared to Windows in my household (for the same people using both Windows and Ubuntu).
Hear hear on the audio for Linux stuff. It's holding me back as well. BUT, the past year, more and more plugin devs have started bringing their plugs to Linux, which is absolutely amazing. When it comes to DAWs there's now Reaper, Bitwig and Studio One, all with official Linux versions. So things are actually happening, and they're moving in the right direction faster than ever before.
And yes, Apple had it right with the no touch screen on the laptops, because touch brings schizophrenia regarding the UI interactions and the result will be a shitty UI with worst of both worlds.
Wait... Studio One is on Linux? I actually like that one better than most. It's what my Dad uses too (he does bebop jazz mostly). I didn't like Bitwig's piano roll. FL studio has the best piano roll, which is why I use it. I don't like the workflow much otherwise, but I'm used to it. I'll give it a try soon. Thanks for posting this... I didn't even know.
Touch screens were actually useful on Windows 7 as an accessibility tool. I loved having one for scrolling web pages with a flick of the finger, rather than fighting with nasty laptop touchpads. Less important on Mac as Apple developed a much better touch pad where two finger scrolling actually works consistently. Interestingly there seems to be a lot of software involved in this, as it doesn't work nearly as well on Asahi Linux.
For a while it even felt like maybe Windows 8 was somewhat heading in the right direction by having a "tablet mode". The problem is rather than keeping this entirely independent of the desktop OS, they decided to also mess with the desktop UI for touch, which made no sense when 99% of users would never need it and it just made desktop mode worse.
@@teksyndicate Yup, Studio One for Linux is currently in public beta so it'll probably arrive for real in a not too distant future. Hey, come to think of it, I wouldn't mind you making a video on that, trying and evaluating Studio One on Linux and some of the snazzy free plugins that are available now. It's probably a lot of work, but the more content/eyes on Linux music creation the better.
Personally I have had nothing but great experiences with Linux audio no matter what I ran through. Pipewire is amazing since I started using it like a year ago.
Reaper+ReaSWS+ReaPack. And: u-he plugins, TAL plugins, DSP56300 synths (Virus C, Virus TI2, MicroQ, Microwave XT), Surge XT synth, Cardinal (VCV rack compatible) modular, Audio Damage plugins, LSP plugins, ACMT plugins, JonV FirComp, and I'm all set! I do use many other plugins I usually pick up on Github, but that is my base DAW setup and I don't need any WIndows/Mac plugins at all. I tried WINE and some Windows plugins - Valhalla fx plugins, and they work nicely. Not into this WINE thing though, I prefer native plugins.
Thanks for this! Do you know if there is a way in Windows 11 to set all explorer folders to have only certain columns (date modified, size)? I tried modifying a high level folder, like "C" or "D," and then "Apply" but it did not work. Am I missing something simple?
Since I bought an ultra-wide screen I want to use it. Why can't I drag the taskbar to the vertical edge? Or have it live on my 2nd monitor?
Windows NT is the kernel. The Desktop Enviroment is dwm.exe and explorer.exe
Now it's xml.exe everything gets cheap browser based
@@Galax2000 I get the joke but it's the same in Win11 :)
I love the desktop window manager in windows, it's so clunky and weird and mysterious for me.
There is so little documentation on how it works, like for example, there's these 2 specific functions inside the binary, one of them is responsible for how 3d window animations are drawn on screen and another one for 2d.
In windows 8, they essentially... removed the 3d function? I mean it still exists there in Windows 11 to this day, but it's literally the same as the 2d one.
So if you somehow port a Windows 7 MSSTYLE and load it inside a windows 11 installation, you'll notice that the opening and closing animations of the windows are still 2d (but in the style of Windows 7)
And then DWM proceeds to take up 6 gigs of ram every now and then so I gotta use task manager to kill it cause microsoft doesn’t know how to fix simple memory leaks in their software, honestly embarrassing
@@MemeReviewer DWM takes atleast ~100 mb (unmodded)
Not so long ago I upgraded my desktop computer from Debain Linux 11 to 12. I didn't have to learn a whole new OS because the look and feel of it did not change. Furthermore, I didn't have to reconfigure ANYTHING because, if you have a separate /home directory everything just stays the same except now you have a more secure, up to date system. I never did understand why Microsoft feels the need to partially or totally wipe the slate with every new release. Eveyone liked 10's user interface apparently so why go effing around with it?
'Cause they don't care about users and most Windows users are used to being tortured and like it.
They hate their customers. Maybe they should bring back the Win 8 interface to make it plain. It is spots on a screen -- if you went through the trouble you could make it look and act like Win 7 or XP.
I am still using same Debian I installed in 2013, Different computer and 3rd hard disk, though. Installed Debian 7 (wheezy) then just upgraded at every .5 (like 9.5) version when they worked out most of the bugs. Now I'm on Debian 12. Great thing with Linux is that the UI you chose doesn't change, just things that really matter, like drivers and os functionality and services. When Debian 13 comes out, remember to edit "sources" file, apt update, apt --upgrade-all . Gone are the days of having to erase everything and start fresh. Only with Windows it's recommendable cos it gets slower with time due to stupid registry file. Cheers!
Can I ask why you need to go into the Network window like that? You can see available networks from the original panel
"A lot of people will start moving to Linux"
This guy in 1999
This guy in 2024
This guy in 2050
This guy in 2075
The biggest loss in Windows 11 is the custom toolbar option on the taskbar. In Windows 10 (and earlier), I use it for my program access about 98% of the time. Very seldom do I use the Start menu.
It feels like every big company is slowly trying to copy Apple's ideology because they're too f'in arrogant to understand that they'll never be Apple, nor should they be. MS is using analytics to strip features used only by X percentage of users and want to eventually push everyone towards relying on Copilot.
It's an incredibly stupid move because just like the crap Samsung is doing now, they don't actually polish their product enough to justify it so you end up alienating your users to become a worse version than the company you're trying to copy. All while doing nothing to convince their users to switch over.
Quickly, announce Windows 12!
nah going to pull a windows 9 and skip lol
12 is announced, it's going to be a "primarily AI OS"
@@UDontCare0I think it'd be funny if they announced Windows 9 as successor to Windows 11
do you *really* expect MS to magically not be crap with their new OS?
@@UDontCare0 Yeh "Windows Nein!" (German) lol
If you manually force install a driver the window that comes up is so old it asks you if you want to look on the A drive for the file not even the C drive first
Can any of the Win 10 Pro keys be used to upgrade from Win 10 home to Win 10 Pro?
Using Win8.1 with Shell menu app for the last 5 years faster than Win10 and Win11 with crappy UI and Apple approach "do it our way not your way".
8.1 is the best windows version
Windows 8.1 with openshell is basically a better and more stable Windows 7, legit my third favorite Windows version after XP and 7
Agree
Yep my spare laptop has 8.1 it just works 67 processes once configured and with a slow 4 core amd 7600 manages to be almost as snappy as thinkpad p16s with 6850u 55w 8 core
I had a samsung tablet with keyboard and touch actually worked with a webbrowser and not after windows removed all the good stuff for tablets....same with the surface pro 3 had windows 8 and it was amazing then it was only a laptop and not a tablet anymore
windows 8 is awful, even if using open shell. it has worse compatibility than windows 7.
Too bad Openshell has some broken cosmetic features with Windows 11 or I'd still be using it ( I've been using it with Windows 10 since it was called Classicshell). Startallback works great though and it "just works" with Windows 11. (tip: change the visual style under the Start Menu configuration to "default" if you want both sides of the start men translucent)
I feel very blessed that I don't have to use Windows. Moved to Linux and never going back
Thanks for the video. I'm also hostage to some Windows programs, so what I started doing is to run everything I can on an Ubuntu VM using VirtualBox, and I simply leave in Windows whatever cannot run under Ubuntu (mainly Office365 and games). With today's CPUs and cheap memory I have ample resources to run a super beefy VM. Lately, I have a tendency to set the VM in full screen and I forget that W11 is running in the background
There is a reason why I downgraded to Windows 10
*Upgraded
@@The_One_Eyed_Rouge *nerd mode on*
technically it's an upgrade
*nerd mode off*
@@xpower7125 🤣
I will be doing the same next week.
I never left windows 7 :)
At this point I’ve made a game out of picking through new W11 updates to see what’s been changed.
These days I only boot my W11 drive to let the girlfriend play her games or to access GamePass, so months pass between boots. Without fail, something has always changed for the worse in those months.
This is textbook enshittification in my eyes. They’re going to push ads, web apps, AI, and bloat while removing stuff we actually like. Can’t wait to see subscription model for Windows happen, that’ll be the day I stop dual booting entirely.
Nah you won't, sorry but guys like you should have moved on Windows 8. I doubt you guys have the balls to migrate do Linux or FreeBSD. Heck, i doubt you guys have the balls to migrate to something mainstream like Hackintosh at this point
@@see-sharp You really got nothing better to do than patrol this video making brain dead remarks? Gate keeping Linux is how you prevent curious people from trying new things. You need to touch grass.
@@see-sharp I mean you say that, but I migrated from Windows to Debian when I saw what Windows 11 was going to be before it came out. People have different levels of inertia. Windows 8 was where I decided I didn't like Windows anymore, Windows 10 was like a ringing in my ears, and seeing Windows 11 was the last straw. Other people have different last straws.
You mentioning the GUI dates back to Windows NT made me reminiscent of my MCSE on NT 4.0 days back in 1996. Yes, I used NT 3.51 BEFORE Win95 came out. It needed a boatload of RAM when there was collusion going on between manufacturers and RAM cost about 50$ PER MEGABYTES back then.
When I bought my 13900k build last year, it didn't take my previous Windows 10 installation, so since I had to start from scratch I decided to start with Windows 11, the first red flag that I faced was that I couldn't proceed with the installation because it needed to connect to the internet, and for some reason it was not finding the drivers needed to use either LAN or WLAN on my new Z790 motherboard, so I had to work around it by using the uGreen USB to LAN adapter I had bought to use on my Nintendo Switch for Online play, and then I was able to proceed with the Windows 11 install as the drivers for that other device were recognized, and then I pushed myself to use Windows 11 for about a month, and as I installed more software/drivers I noticed stability issues, and then when I actually tried doing my usual stuff such as using emulators or virtual machines I also encountered issues with those activities, but the thing that broke the camel's back for me was that File Explorer started crashing randomly, and I was also noticing slow response from the interface where when I tried right clicking stuff and etc, it would take some time to populate the context menu, and that's when I said screw it and did a fresh install for Windows 10, and unlike Windows 11 that had issues with the drivers for the Z790, I had a smooth installation from start to finish and now its basically 1 year later, and I can't report any issues on my Win 10 22H2 installation except for the one time where the KB5034843 update brought some strange slowdowns, but after uninstalling that I was able to resolve the slowdown issues with it, and I can't really complain as I've been able to do everything that I want now, and if I do want to have the Windows 11 experience, then I just boot up VMWare Workstation and run an install I have for Windows 11 on there.
I got a fairly new gaming laptop about 6 months ago that was pre-loaded with Windows 11. My old laptop was a Windows 10 model that I didn't have a ton of issues with. Within about 3 weeks of me having the Windows 11 one, I had to look up how to downgrade to from Win 11 to Win 10 and never looked back.
The reason? RAM Utilization. For some reason, Windows 11 would hog about 45% of the memory, from a cold boot. That's with nothing else running. It would go up to about 70-80% the longer I would let it run. The laptop had no innate Malware or Spyware, or pre-installed garbage. I even did a fresh install of Windows 11, and it still had this problem.
Went back to Windows 10, and no problems at all.
Just because it's allocating the memory doesn't mean it's using it. It'll free up the memory if needed. It's just trying to be ready for when you open different programs and perform different tasks - that way they can be loaded quicker.
It's there, It's Fast, So why not use it.? They've borrowed a bit from database servers and using up extra to speed things up when running. I guess more an allocated than actually using, and it frees up and adjusts as needs be.
@@sociallyferal4237 Because I didn't tell it to use it? And when I actually needed to do something, like have more than 2 Chrome tabs open, or play a game, it wouldn't give it back?
Thanks for convincing me to switch back to W10!
Windows 11 made me go to Linux and I love it on Linux Mint. Microsoft has pushed my patience over the edge and now that Linux has become viable for gaming thanks to Valve, it was time for me to finally try it.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux😉
People who say "it will never get better" as they suck up everything MS does to them will make that a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Does ODBC still have the old Win 3.1 ui look and feel?
Win11 is worse than Vista
Vista with Service Pack 2 was actually quite good.
Who still remembers... XP Antispy (website still exists btw., frozen in time since 2015).
This battle has been ongoing since the literal dawn of the century...
I've heard VMs on Linux can be made run Windows with minimal performance impact. I have not dabbled with it yet, I am still getting the hang of Linux itself. Instead, I am dual-booting for the select few programs, that refuse to add support for Linux. Anyone know a good alternative to Solidworks for Linux? I tried Fusion 360, but ran terribly.
I recall attending a Microsoft TechEd back when windows 7 was being released. There was a seminar talking about windows 7 and UAC. The presenter asked who were power users and most of the audience put their hands up. He then said - it's because of you that we have put UAC in place. . . And they've been taking stuff away ever since.
Imagine buying mid en gaming laptop that released in 2023 and came with Windows 11, and suffer from slow slughish choppy animation of the Windows 11 UI/UX itself is ridiculously unacceptable...
And then when i try to downgrade to windows 10, guess what, i regret using windows 11
What animations are you talking about? Im using win11 and havent seen any of these "animations" from the GUI you're speaking of. And yes Ive used Win 98, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10.
@haewymetal the whole entire ui, even scrolling on settings menu seems choppy, the animation when I just click on start menu also feels it caped on lower refresh rate, even if I open multiple of program or tabs, those mica transparency effect will destroy my smooth experience...
The hell is this shit, I have 144hz refresh rate monitor RTX30 series and Core i7 Gen 12th and 32GB of RAM, somehow the whole UI is so F slow
No idea what you're talking about either this is why you shouldn't buy bootleg windows keys 😆
@@haewymetal I really don't know what half of these people are complaining about, tbh. Some are saying Windows 8 was better. WTF? Windows 8 was a shitty nightmare. One even claimed Windows 2k was the last version of Windows they loved. Really? I had BSODs so often on Windows 2k that I once considered punching my monitor. People get worked up about weird things 🤷♂
I've been happily daily driving Linux for more than a decade now but I've used Windows 11 and it is perfectly fine with WSL 2 and winget. I wish they wouldn't force me sign in with a Microsoft account, and that's probably my only major complaint.
@@frustratedalien666windows 11 is running inefficient as windows 10 already did. The whole UI is just xml. f XML. WHY? Who knows. Metro in Windows 8 was waaaaay better. The start menu was a mess for Desktop users yes but I used windows 8 on a tablet and even on a modern one until the support had ended and it was good. Waaay better than what windows 11 does.
Win 2K was my goto for YEARS.
Windows 2000 was the last version of Windows I was truly 100% happy with, and it's just been down hill in one way or another since then.
Agreed, Win2k was almost perfect
It's where I played Deus Ex... so it'll always be one of the best in my eyes.
@@teksyndicate I remember Microsoft was trying to get game developers to stop 2K compatibility and just make games compatible on XP. But at the time, I could get Age of Empires 3 to run on 2K just by editing an ini file. Meanwhile, XP started requiring bidirectional monitor cables to choose resolution. I was using BNC cables which were only monodirectional and I lost the ability to choose refresh rate with XP. Microsoft is the Benjamin Button of software development. The older they get, the less they know what they’re doing.
Interesting. I went from Windows 98SE to XP. When I did finally try out Windows 2000 for fun, it didn't seem to be noticeably different than XP in classic UI mode. Though I think it still had the Windows 98 era Start Menu? I never had much of a problem with the XP one. I definitely preferred having "frequently used programs" listed instead of hunting for each program all the time.
This channel is awesome! But there are soooooo many guides and tips, which one is good starting point for a fresh Windows install? No need for hardcore debloating, just a bit and do system backups in case my system gets corrupted like last time...
They rebuilt the file explorer from the ground up shortly before adding tabs. They didn't "remove" the ability to drop files in the address bar, it's a new program. It's entirely possible they'll therefore add it back in future.
I’m honestly considering switching to another OS. From their inability to regain the search functionality of win8 to removing quality of life features and so much more it’s at a point that I literally have a thread on my Discord solely for Windows issues.
I suggest you try a few Linuxes to see if you find them OK. Linux Mint can be made to boot from an external USB hard drive. This means you don't need to even touch the Windows drive.
PopOS is the best linux, give it a try.
Debian bro
Bro, you could be using Linux Mint, that's ez pz, you could be running FreeBSD, you could even be running Hackintoshes, who very easy these days. If you wanted to move, you have moved already.
People saying that will keep being tortured, you should have moved on Windows 8, now? I doubt you have what is takes to do it, just another hostage
@@see-sharp Well I'm not the kind to stay loyal to a company. I can't ditch Windows outright but I can experiment with the OS and maybe see something I like and stick. I've already started installing suggestions on my other drives.
It seems Linux is gaining more and more momentum these past years and Windows heading the other way so what better time.
With each new version of Windows, I always hack the GUI and functionality to work/look like Windows 7/Vista. That is what I feel comfortable with, that is my "Windows zen."
it can't look 100% the same and with updates can get strange but i appreciate developers work
you "hack it" by downloading classicshell
@@namesurname4666 It's okay thou, as we still get some new functionality from Win10 or 11. So on my W11 setup, it looks most like Win7 + Win11 (curved corners). Depending on how I do it, Start Menu is XP/NT style or Win7. The W11 start menu look neat, but its a huge bloated mess with ads and junk I don't need.
Either way, Win11/12 isn't designed for power users.
As a Windows 11 user (which has to sadly use it sometimes) and been absolutely not liking the direction of Windows since 2014, I can’t tell how great 11 is… if you disable everything that was made with 10 and 11.
I disabled anything modern in explorer (syslistview32 from XP, 7’s command bar, old context menu, old details pane, old 10 taskbar), substituted the taskbar with the MacOS dock (I just prefer how it looks and works), removed Widgets entirely, removed the Reccomended section entirely from the start menu, removed the new flyouts (so it uses either the Dock ones, or the 7/10 ones), removed many of the inbox apps (Edge -> Firefox, Outlook -> Thunderbird, Notepad -> Notepads, Photos -> Visum, Calculator -> Win7 Calculator), disabled web search, substituted aero.msstyles with Rectify11 (so I have at least a much more consistent dark mode UI for about two years, whereas any native copy of 11 doesn’t. Plus with AccentColorizer, MicaForEveryone, new cursors, new icons, fixed control panel and AcrylicMenus it improves the look so much better). And, after all of this, it’s actually nice to use my laptop, but I shouldn’t disable everything new and many other stuff too to just get an OS that doesn’t get in my way, and that it looks decently modern.
What’s fun though is that, I have an old Atom netbook with Vista on it, and obviously it nags you a lot less than 11 (the most Windows tells you is like “Review solutions to your problems”), and actually, certain things work better in Vista than in 11, namely for example the search. In Vista, the search in the start menu not only is surprisingly fast for a 2007 HDD, an Atom processor and 1GB of RAM, but it can search keywords inside office documents, onenote, mail, calendar, contacts, etc, all directly from the start menu. I’ve never ever seen modern search do this.
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Excuse me for going off topic, but what is this wallpaper? Is it an art from some videogame?
That's a screenshot from my modded oblivion. I should upload a pack of wallpapers.
@@teksyndicate Thanks 👍
Would you ever instal linux on your minisforum tablet? I was thinking of getting one and installing Debian or Manjaro on it but I don't know how compatible it would be.
Maybe... I'm not sure how well everything would work because W11 is actually a tablet OS... it automatically rotates when you rotate the device... It knows when you are not using the keyboard. I have no idea how well Debian would work with this... if it works just as well, yeah, that would be awesome. I love Debian 12... So, if I have time... I might try it out.
Linux is great for legacy hardware but I can tell you Linux doesn't support many things out of the box. Especially if the hardware components are new. But it doesn't even work on older devices well. I have a yoga x13 Gen2 and Linux runs (was pain in the ass) and many things doesn't work as they do on windows. And I bet the new Minisforum V3 won't be any different
Whatever Linux Distro you choose, make sure that it has Gnome Shell. Its perfect for tablet usage (on screen keyboard support, rotation support) I run openSuse Tumbleweed with Gnome Shell on my Surface Go, and its really a charm.
Even 23h2 was a nightmare to customize. I’ve perfected it but I’m not even touching 24h2, it’s gonna be next to impossible
I just said "screw it" and installed Startallback, now Windows 11 works like Windows XP, as it should.
One word
Windhawk
I am still on 22H2 on my (unsupported) PC although my bootable USB has a installer for 23H2
Don't worry 24H2 will undue all those changes. I lately had audio glitching on Windows, so I said screw this and Linux has no issues.
@@phoenixrising4995 I tried to install the AMD ROCm toolkit on Ubuntu 24.04 and it bricked my install because they deprecated parts of Python that the AMD SDK needs to compile. Went back to windows because I need ROCm to run Stable Diffusion.
I can understand that many professional content creators cannot fully move over to Linux, but for the majority of people. everything that most people do can easily be done with a Linux distribution.
u can just stick with early buids of windows 11 and do not update, still works, or not?
I hope to see your video on this abomination of a OS soon.
In IT for 25 years. Agree 100% on all your points. I still run W10 on all my personnel systems and refuse to go to W11 (not ever) unless they undo the direction they are heading.
Fun Fact: 70% percent of the World is still running W10 not W11, in fact there are more W10 users this year than there were last year which means PEOPLE don't like W11. MS ... Get a clue
The task bar always pops up whenever it can when some app has an alert/highlight set. When all windows with the amber highlight have been clicked, the task bar calms down again and does finally auto hide properly.
Ads are making everything worse: TH-cam, Facebook, Cable TV, and now Windows OS. Corporations sell something that works well then let ads creep in little by little. Eventually they are obtrusive. Notice the “playing through” ads for golf tournament coverage? What’s next? Streaming services and maybe even some Linux distros.
No, not Linux distros. Pushing things onto users just doesn't work with Linux. Ubuntu tried something tiny once... and there was a huge backlash. Never again. ;) You can be safe and sound using Linux ad, ai, data collection free. Just needs a few addons for Firefox.
I don't use Linux for one reason: games. Not because the games can not be run on Linux, but because the configurations to make them run is a pita. I recently tested a couple of Linux variants and installed/configured Baldur's Gate 3. The game ran fine. But I don't want to be tasked with the hours of workarounds to make them run.
Dualboot
Just run a distro with gaming as its focus like nobara/garuda/cachyos then. Minimal configuring on any of those
Does the classic context menu Registry hack still work in 24H2? That will be a dealbreaker for me if it doesn't.
Talk to the developer or whatever program hasn't put their items in the new menu to put it in the new menu
Has more users use Windows 11 programs have slowly been updating
It doesn't work. I tried it.
Microsoft tries to get rid of old metro and legacy UI elements and replacing them with cheap XML html based shit. Ofc they also get rid of the context menu and replacing it with the new ugly one
@@profosist it will take a decade for the behemoths like Autodesk to move their shit. Good luck getting smaller companies to move their stuff...
Is there a way to block 24H2 from being installed until this mess gets sorted out?
The way I see it, I've got 2 options right now, either I go Win 11 and constantly try to fix it as things Will be/get broken (it's not an "if" it's a "will") or do I start learning Linux. I will be going for Linux. It will be an absolute pain in the ass, but in the long run it will be Way better than whatever Microsoft shits out next. I have Never met a single person who was happy with upgrading to Win11.
I'm usually the person who nitpicks and knowing that those more chill people are annoyed by it it just scares me.
As someone who only reluctantly updated from Windows 2000 to XP and from XP to Windows 7 only after certain games and programs started demanding kernel functions not present on previous OSses I literally don't understand why people have "upgraded" to Windows 8, 10 or 11 from Windows 7? Is it the MS's "you absolutely cannot use OS that doesn't get security updates anymore" scare tactics? The need to have the newest and "greatest" version of Windows? Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm still using Windows 7 and ONLY at start of this year I have had some minor problems with "outdated" internet browsers started having problems with certain sites and that was easily fixed by changing browsers. Then again nowadays I have zero interest in new games, especially the AAA ones, so I don't know if latest games require newer versions of Windows?
PS. If there was a 64-bit version of Windows 2000 and hardware supporting it that would be my dream OS, nothing has come anywhere near Windows 2000 as far as user interface is concerned. Anyway when Windows 7 finally becomes unusable for me I'm switching to Linux as then I'm done with Windows and it only getting worse for the last 20 years.
I'm on Debian now, but I was using Windows 10 before. All of my Windows upgrades have happened as a result of laptops breaking and me buying a new one. I suspect that's the case for most Windows customers.
I ran into an issue where certain software required Windows 10. Otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded to 10. I am now in the process of switching to Linux and keeping a small Windows 10 install (dual boot) for the few apps I need to use once in a while.
For me it was games. I was happy on win7, but because I got a new dx12 card at the time, I went on to win10. I see that win7 supports dx12 now thanks to the Chinese Market and their love of wow. If I could play every game on 7, I would, but some games require the latest update to win10 now which is the only thing stopping me going back to 7.
Personally, I could care less if there is a 64 bit version of 2000. I main 7 myself, and I too don't care about modern games, but believe me, if I could main 2000, I 100% would, even if I had to downgrade my hardware a bit. And even so, there is the extended kernel so at least there are some decent browsers for XP that can work on 2K
You sound exactly like me more than 10 years ago. But I switched, first dual booting for some time and then erasing Windows when I figured I didn't need it anymore. ;)
So, you recommend keep windows 10? For now i will because my pc can´t handle 11.
it's usually better off staying if you're stuck with aged components, as these don't usually have extended driver support in newer systems, this could cause the pc not peforming the way it should.
10 should be fine for a decent while. If it can handle 10, it can almost certainly handle 11, it's just that they arbitrarily say no. I could only guess why. There is LTSC for windows 10 to go further, I don't know the deal with it, or how much it costs or anything, but people say it can extend windows 10 up to like 2027 or 2032 or something. At some point it may just be more practical to cave and do what they want, buying new hardware for no reason and letting them collect and sell your data, for people that just aren't that into computers at least. My thought currently is to dual boot with Linux and Windows 10, and start getting used to Linux on the side. I'd rather they just stop being crazy, I prefer windows.
How do I prevent W10 from accidentally updating to 11? It keeps offering the upgrade all the time, I'm afraid a wrong move, a wrong click results in an unwanted switch...
disable TPM. and use group policy to disable it.
@@coshvjicujmlqef6047 Thanks!
I will say this, an unactivated Windows install that I've had for a while when The OEM key that I had didn't work, got to say it's probably the smoothest windows experience I've had so far with 10. I mean I did the whole thing with the region global, and jumping out of the startup, alt f3, then created the user account with group manager... And that significantly helped my initial outing... But with the exception of the watermark that shows up, I don't think I've ever had an issue like I used to have with an activated account.
I'm not saying this is the way, and the watermark is annoying, and I had to do some registry hacks to get the task bar to minimize. I still had to you know do the standard pulling services and making sure that apps are just not working at all as much as possible.. and do some things in group permissions to you know make sure some things stay off.
But.. This used to be a daily struggle, whereas I really haven't had to mess with it The last few months. Biggest downside is if I want to get rid of the watermark I got to restart every couple of hours, which hasn't turns out is probably one of the better things for Windows given it's run time issues..
The only reason I held off getting a new key was cuz my Microsoft account got hacked, and I didn't want to do anything until I had that sorted, which of course never lol you don't get that sorted. which really hammered the point home, the Microsoft account, the one account to rule it all, bad idea in general.. and skipping that process was a boon probably for more reasons than that I wanted to shorten the process of turning my computer back into a computer from a cell phone..
Haven't talked with anybody that knows things as to if this is a just a repeatable thing, end for a lot of people this would be very difficult, cuz you can't do things like scale ui and whatnot.
But for me, I don't need a custom background I need a black screen and a task Bar that disappears. I need my software to work when I want it to work, I need my settings to stay, I need programs to do what they're supposed to do and shut down when they're not..
Honestly I almost don't know if I want to activate Windows at all, cuz I feel like I might be killing a unicorn here or at the very least that semifunctional goose.
Now that you mention it (2:12), I don't think I've ever contacted any company about software/OS problems.
I’m in basically the same situation as you. I have Linux on several machines but for my main I’m stuck with Windows 10 as primary because of FL using VST’s, Midi, Adobe CC, and a couple other programs. I remember playing around with seamless RDP MS RemoteApp into Linux there was a project that allowed opening of files and worked very well for office. As Windows 10 end of Support approaches I will be playing with this again and hopefully getting FL to work. I plan on having a VM or other server running the version of Windows for the specific programs. I’m hoping it can be window server otherwise I plan on locking down, securing, and stripping 10 as much as possible to be in a state where it can defer updates as I’ve done for clients that need to use legacy versions of Windows for old vital business software / machinery. That’s the plan at least, but a new GUI for windows would be an interesting option. Edit: needed to mention I don’t use windows 11, I never liked it. Stuck with 10 and have no intention to use 11 as daily.
I dual boot. I have a small partition for Windows 10. Enough for the OS and some room for Ableton Live, FL Studio and a graphics design app. I use Linux unless I need to use one of those apps. The vast majority of what I need can be done on Linux. If it weren't for those few pieces of software I wouldn't have a Windows install at all. All other PC's are in the process of being migrated to Linux as soon as I backup the files.
Spitfire and Kontakt working under wine and yabridge here with REAPER on Linux. On Arch BTW!
Does anyone remember TweakUI? We need something like that. I believe Windows XP and 7 was the peaks and it's all been downhill from there!
Yes, there are programs similar to the classic TweakUI that work with Windows 11.
For instance, Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5 is designed specifically for Windows 11 and offers a variety of tweaks to personalize and improve the system's performance.
Additionally, TweakUIX aims to replicate the functionality of the original Tweak UI for modern versions of Windows, including Windows 11.
MS is so weird about the OS where they keep removing any user control people have. Then just doing things to make the general experience worse. I'm glad I switched to Linux.
Windows NT was available on desktops much much earlier than 2000. MS had HUGE success with 3.51 and then even MORE success with NT 4.0. in fact, Win2k was mostly WinNT 4.0 with the Win 95 interface.
I have switched to MacOS recently, and now that I am used to it, going back to Windows almost feels like I'm fighting the OS sometimes.
Definitely relatable for me 😂 I’m not used to installing updates every restart anymore
Title is 10/10 accurate. I went to 24h2 and not only is HDR management somehow worse but they actively broke all my rgb lighting. Immediately went back to 22h2 win10
Fixing Windows 10's broken HDR is like, 80% of the reason I ever considered upgrading. If even that's broken, what's the point of "upgrading" to windows 11?
For me it's a hardware issue, I have yet to find a distro that provides a driver for striped raid for the boot disk. NVME X 4 in raid 0 is so get it done I have a hard time on all my other PC's and it's not like they are slouches either...