Windows 10 Gets 5 Years Extended Support With 0patch
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- Windows 10 Gets 5 Years Extended Support With 0patch
Are you a Windows 10 user? Looking for a way to continue to use Windows 10 after Oct 14th 2025 when Microsoft stop support for Windows 10? then this video is for you. We will talk about your options and how to extend security patches with 0patch.
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We move forward in technology and time, MS goes backwards
Windows 10 will always be the best OS Microsoft have ever created. I am sad about the end of life for 10, simply do not like the iOS clone for 11 and how resource hungry 11 is. I just wish they kept the same scheme
@@light-bearer-1 win 7 will always be the best
i don't trust anyone
"Trust no one, deny everything, and the truth is out there!!"
@@j.lietka9406Anyone who still trusts any authority or company has forfeited their right to complain about their suffering in the future. They must then keep their mouths shut, at most they can say: "I deserve it because I was gullible and mocked those who knew more than me."
Have a nice day.
Thanks for keeping up on this. My problem with MS is not about requiring an OS upgrade but the hardware requirements. A hot computer in 2018 is now considered obsolete!
I'm running Windows 11 on a computer from 2015. Check out Brian's vido on bypassing all the restrictions, and eliminating all the bloatware.
I’ve run 11 on an unsupported pc since it launched. And I have of course been through each and every setting I could find about privacy and telemetry.
Going into apps and removing all the extra that I don’t need or want was also important.
And I must admit…. It has not been a bad experience. But it does make it easier if you know about setting up computers, and see a lot of the bloatware as simply being present in case you want it, to be removed if you don’t.
Dappled a bit with Linux as an alternative to Windows 11. Nah. Not for me. The mess behind the UI is evident. A simple thing as the folder hierarki is oddly messy and suggests an OS build of ever increasing bits slapped onto the initial core.
@@TraitorFelon.14.3
The issue is installing win 10 on new laptops with 11 gen and up processor and NVME ssd.
As for Linux, use Zorin. It feels like Windows and support many things of Windows. Installation is easy and support old and new computers.
Something else. There's ReactOS which is an open source that has the same language of Windows so there's no compatibility issues with Windows third party programs.
However, it is an old Operating System so new software might not work and it looks like it is 32bit only.
Why no one have made it better or wrote another OS that have the same Windows environment language so people could still use same programs and give a middle f1nger to Windows?
@@TraitorFelon.14.3 Yes, I agree with the file system hierarchy. It's a headache for new users, but I did get my head around it eventually.
@@Sonya_Makepeace
The thing is that it shouldn’t be “eventually”. Everything should be logical and easily understood. Time and time again I have watched people turn to Linux, only to have them return to Windows because of the hassle of finding a distro they can work with.
And another pet peave…. Linux being Open Source and existing in many distros…. How do you know you can trust the one you eventually settle with?
I cannot comprehend how we can say “I don’t trust Microsoft, but I definitely trust this bunch of unknown individuals who build the most important part of computer software, and tell me it is “safe”.
Good to know. Options are out there.
I agree
Windows has already reached end-of-life on my rigs, lol.
Because 0Patch is a third party app for providing updates you will have to be careful because updates could contain flaws and malware. Eventually Microsoft may block OPatch through an update.
How can they if Windows 10 will no longer be supported with updates? :3
@@unnamed715 Microsoft could block OPatch through an update if you decide to pay for updates through Microsoft.
@@unnamed715 There are several ways in which they can do it:
Slip in an update with the regular updates they are still providing before Windows 10 goes end of life next year.
Slip in an update on the last day of support.
Also, Microsoft has been known to release updates to end of life versions of Windows if a super critical bug comes out within days of if it going end of life. That too is an opportunity to "fix the oversight" as it were.
They can also do something to the updates that 0patch has access to in order to prevent 3rd parties like them from distributing patches.
I wouldn't put anything past Microsoft, but the TL:DR is they have more than a few options available to them.
@@unnamed715 MS has sent out updates for EOS/EOL versions of Windows before when the problem was serious enough for them to do something. I think XP got an emergency update a long time after it was out of support because a lot of people were still using it, and the security hole was a huge risk.
It's not like they're just going to turn off the update servers and throw them in the trash when 10 goes end of support.
And there will be a bypass like there was for W7 after 10 went Release
If Windows 11 wasn't such a turd, there would be no need for patching Windows 10. Windows 11 is getting more and more intrusive and is spying on users. The kicker for me was when I was forced to update to the latest "quality" update for my system to keep security support. The update took 3 HOURS, and then when I logged in, it did that BS "wait a minute" for every user I had created. This finally convinced me to jump out of the airplane and set my parachute on fire. I am now using Kubuntu and do not regret my decision.
I install security patches daily, and they take no time at all, and they do not impact my work while they are going. I signed up for Ubuntu One, which gives me support for my LTS version for 5 more years after the original version is superseded. I control when I update the OS to the next version. And so far, each version still runs on my old PC with the same performance.
Can't count the number of times I've tried out Linux, and each time I try it I like it- for a couple of weeks. Then inevitably I find some difficulty which can only be addressed by going to command line instructions; those are often not intuitive at all (at least to me) so I end up totally frustrated & go back to Windows.
If I had a magic wand, I'd go back to the Amiga OS, which was the last one I really liked; it worked the way I wanted my OS to work and let me tailor my computer to fit my needs; but that's not an option. I dislike Windows, but at least I can get it to do what I want most of the time without having to resort to finding obscure commands to download files from some depository, which once installed don't always do what I got them for, leaving me in a dilemma. Which is all my fault of course, so I guess I really just don't want to do all the study to make Linux a success. I'm glad it's working well for you though!
Windows 11 is definitely a pile of turds.
I am irritated I pay for an OS, and I pay MicroSoft for the privilage of doing so.
And Microsoft will figure out a way to override that App as well. They will NOT allow users to bypass its money grabbing software, that’s why I just bought my first Apple MacBook Pro and wave goodbye to Windows. 😢
Glad Apple MacBook Pro is working out for you.
@@Britec09 Yup Apple never dead ends their hardware. Make sure to do regular backups because with soldered in SSD and memory you aint recovering that data easily should the T2 crash.
It's so cute that you think you're better off with Apple ☺
Lol! Apple are one of the worst money grabbers out there.
@@unnamed715 Another Fanboy is born.
Been a few years since I could look myself in the mirror and honestly describe Windows 'updates' as representing benefits to the USER, as opposed to providing invasive and economic benefits to Microstuft......but maybe that's just me ;) I'm curious as to just how '0patch' intends to provide these security updates and remain solvent.
My PC is 12 years old and it does all that I want it to.
Same here. Don't see any need to change, don't want to change, and besides- Win 11 sucks.
Mine's about eleven years old. I built it back in 2013. The only issue I have is my motherboard doesn't seem to like graphics cars any more (at least not via the first PCIe port), so I've been using on-board graphics for the past few years.
I just wish I could still buy another Thermaltake Amor+ case for my next build. These days cases are basically bread bins with a couple of fans. I use my computer for everything, including using it as a media server.
As I am approaching retirement, I believe that Linux / Steam gaming OS may be the most viable options for my future.
My Windows 10 system was top-of-the-line when I built it in 2012, and it still works perfectly. There's nothing I want to do that it won't do. I'm very familiar with, and used to, Win 10 and see no reason to "up" grade; in fact I find Win 11 a pain-in-the-rear in far too many ways, and I really hate that its telemetry tells M$ everything I do. That is unacceptable.
I drive an old car, same year as my Win 10 computer; it will go well over the speed limit, it's comfortable, in perfect condition, everything works, and I like it. I'm not getting a new car because they also have telemetry which tracks wherever I go, the speed I travel at, how fast I take turns, etc. Besides, virtually all new cars are butt-ugly. I guess I just like keeping what already works just fine and see no reason to exchange it for something "newer" just because it's newer, which might not work nearly as well!
Exactly how I feel! I do not want an electric, computerized car. I love the wee hatchback I have now. Apart from the usual wear & tear she has never really let me down.
Same goes for my pc's. I loved my Windows XP best of all but had to give in to 'progress' and move on, like it or not. Got used to Win 7, quite liked it so used it for as long as possible until I was forced to 'upgrade' to Win 10 (May 2020). Cost me over a grand for a half-decent custom build of my choice (I'm learning about this tech stuff. No more over the counter pc's for me!). Had it for only 4 years and now I'm having to seriously consider 'upgrading' yet again!! I don't want W11 or 12. I don't want to 'upgrade' either, or not yet anyway. I want to do it when I'm ready. Anyway, Windows notifications inform me that my current pc is not ready (or able) to move to W11. So what do I do? There's not really a lot to choose from is there?
Regarding my over-the-counter W7 Packard Bell desktop, purchased in 2010 (just checked the receipt and was shocked by the date, lol). It's still in use and has working security apps. I don't use it for much but it has some programs that I like to use. In all, it is still in working order. Newest or latest' model does not always mean best. To me it means 'they' have come up with new & improved methods to profit, spy & control! User experience improvements are secondary.
@@MissIdolize Yes indeed! Glad to see I'm not alone in wanting to hang on to what works & doesn't need "upgrading!"
Good News for Windows 10 Users
While 0patch does this via unofficial ways such as binary/hex editing and reverse engineering to apply a fix that's almost always not complete and stops one specific vector. They also only focus on specific types of vulnerabilities, and do not patch all vulnerabilities. In fact, they don't patch most.
This is a no-go for me (or some)
Like I said, only certain patch's are done
You gotta remember most other patches are handled perfectly fine with a good AV and firewall, so as long as you've got 0Patch and a strong AV & firewall, you're as good as secure as any other system. In fact I would argue you're more secure than other systems because 0Patch also provides micropatches for a lot of other software you install.
nice one thanks for sharing the valuable information and helping people with options much appreciated
I'm one of those stuck on a very low income. This is very welcome news indeed.
Great videos 👏👏
Glad you like them!
Linux Mint - Free
Switched 2 years ago, very satisfied. No learning curve.
Like you Linux is useless.
@@Nick41622 Useless? 😆 The entire internet runs off Linux servers. Moron.
@@Nick41622 Useless? 😆. The entire internet runs off Linux servers. Moron.
@@Nick41622 Useless? 😆. The entire internet runs off Linux servers. Get a clue from Google.
Excellent thank you.
You are welcome!
This is great news regarding 0Patch. I hope this will be available in the U.S. For many of us with computers only 10 years old or so that were "higher end screamers" when bought, keeping them going another few years is great. I can't use Linux because I need iTunes and other software that is Windows only. Keeping the older PC going a while longer before having to buy means the PC that I do buy say in 2027 will be that much better. It does seem that all the "new technology" is mainly focused on stealing personal data and for advertising purposes not anything really useful to users. Thank you!
When Microsoft isn't up to scratch
You need 0 Patch!
[wow what an ad jingle!]
I like it.
Brilliant!
It is advertisement video by britec
I have a Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 so, still supported until January 13, 2032. I haven't seen security risks. I reset my pc sometimes because, I got a blue screen.
*EDIT:* Now I got black screen when I click cancel button when restarting.
*EDIT 2:* Thankfully Microsoft has solved. Now if has black screen when I click cancel button when restarting, I can force turn off and turn on, I see "Updating your system" screen
I have not been able to update Windows since 2018 (version 1803) despite Microsoft remote support several times. I can still run it (use Nod32 and Malwarebytes), never had a virus and hope to get another 5 years out of it. But I do run a Windows 11 PC alongside, just in case!
malwarebytes is indeed a virus
Have you tried creating a thumb drive with the Media Creation Tool, then just running the setup.exe file on the thumb drive? I did a video on updating a machine from 1709 to 20H2 with that method a few years ago.
Thank you for this video Brian ☺. That is a huge news for me.
But what about the free upgrade for windows 11? is the free upgrade going to be stop because of that?
Lior, from Israel.
Free upgrade to Windows 11 is for supported hardware only
Unless MSFT comes in with a nominally priced extension plan, I'll probably make use of 0Patch on my one remaining Win 10 machine. I put it in the same category as Open Core Legacy Patcher (OCLP), which ironically lets you run newer versions of MacOS on older machines. However, unlike OCLP, 0Patch is not open-source. Tht's a bit problematic but the risk of using Win 10 without updates is higher.
I still keep a W10 mini pc and also a virtual machine for running some software. However, I am not willing to pay for updates to use an OS that I already paid a license for. Taking them offline is okay. I go online with Linux Mint and ChromeOS Flex, as they use less RAM, CPU and system resources (and thus more efficient.. very little hanging or buffering). Linux Mint will be supported until at least 2027. Not sure about ChromeOS Flex but I really like it.
Happy to be an apple user. Have a dual boot with Win 10 on it. Hardly use it. Will wipe and reclaim space.
I love the word on 0Patch's blog regarding Windows 10 and the "enshittification" of Windows 11 and future operating systems regarding bloatware, ads, and privacy issues. Good word. This is where we are.
It is a fab word... then 'deshittifying Windows' came to my mind for some reason! Prob means the same thing.
Finally, did they acquire some British common sense? Since I bought my Dell XPS 8960 Windows 11 23H2 computer on February 21st, 2024, and then "upgraded" it to Windows 10, this extended life would be good for me. The next great news for me will be to win the lottery and I'd move back home to England. Of course, I would need to get a step-down transformer to bring 240 volts down to 120 volts. Electrical equipment from Canada & the U.S. would need consideration if moving back to the U.K.
Check the input voltage on your PSU, lots of them are universal as it’s cheaper to run a single production line for the whole world rather than one per voltage/frequency combo.
@@vinh7251 PSU?
plz reply are you going back to Windows 10??
Win 10 LTSC user here, CPU is not officially supported for Windows 11 (it's a Skylake CPU). I don't personally care, but yeah, this EOL shite, it is a problem! I realize, it won't be a problem for me (yet), but still...it's gonna be a while before I can upgrade to a new PC build architecture. I've been told that it's not worth upgrading my current build any further by experts in the field, and that's fine; I have now 32 GB of DDR4 RAM, a very capable and damn decent AMD Radeon RX 6400 GPU...no bloatware...yeah. I'm set for a bit.
By 2029 Windows 10 will end Support is Extended for 5 more years
Once again forced obsolescence. Most users can easily get by using 10+ year old computers and never see any point in buying a new one because the old one does everything they need. Windows 11's release creating brick machines because Microsoft is trying to force people to buy a new computer just to use Windows 11...I guess they don't realize there are a lot of alternative operating systems out there besides Windows, that are less vulnerable, don't cost users any money, and run flawlessly without EOL nonsense that Microsoft has created....they charge a fortune for their OS and other add-ons, and its not worth it with all the options out there now....many users could run a version of Linux and be just fine for all their computer needs.
Besides this, have you started a weekly newsletter?
I think the issue is not how old a computer is. The actual reason I think is that W10 has now matured fully with little to no bugs in it. W11 on the other hand has a lot of bugs. W11 has been crafted to what Microsoft thinks is perfect, but at the end user, it does not suite one's comfort and there are some codes that cannot be broken or customized. I don't know, maybe I am exacerbating, I don't know.
No, I quite agree. Win10 isn't perfect, but as you say most of the bugs are worked out of it. Win11 is terrible in comparison, it seems to me that M$ has purposefully made ordinary tasks much harder to do, and it's unacceptable to me that its telemetry is constantly sending my data & information to Microsoft. That's just evil, and I will not comply!
@@deniswauchope3788 we seem to be moving toward a communist China computing policy, where everything you say and do is monitored by Big Brother.
Well, right now i'm trying to figure out if upgrading a Windows 10 Pro to Win10 Enterprise or Win10 Enterprise LTSC would be better then having to pay for this "Extended Support Option".
Or what about upgrading to a Windows 11 Enterprise version? Would that be a viable option here, or is that version also riddled with "telephoning home" additions?
Anyway, not really ready for a jump to Linux yet, but i guess it's probably the better path left at some point...
Just install Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 and use HWID activation, it's supported until 2032. Paying a third-party for extended support is pointless.
@@Jon717 Hello, thank you for the reply, is it possible to upgrade a Win10 Pro version to Enterprise LTSC 2021, or should i do a clean install instead?
@@TheWorryingWolverine You need to do a clean install. Technically, there is a way to trick Windows with a registry tweak, but that only works if your Windows version is the same or below the LTSC edition. Since LTSC 2021 is built on 21H2, that likely won't work.
@@Jon717 Thank you, will go with a clean install then, don't want to mess around with the registry.
0patch is presumably less likely than Microsoft to keep adding spyware for 5 years.
That would be bad for business for sure!
What about legacy update for windows xp?
Main question is: even you have to buy a new computer, do you really want a MS OS with all of its bloatware running on it? Maybe you decide to run a clean system like Linux Mint on it, even you have to learn a lot when coming from Windows.
You can always spend a heap of time (plus the money) on stripping all the bloatware, spyware and telemetry out of Windows then have to do it again the first time you update, or you could install an OS that does what you want it to (and nothing more) saving all that hassle (and money) and find that your hardware delivers even better performance than you were expecting.
I built a system in 2013 - Intel i5 3470, 16GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 2x2TB HDD, nVidia GeForce 210 - and put a Debian system on it. Since then I've had to replace an HDD twice but as I have them set up as a mirrored pair, I barely noticed and lost no data. I also replaced the graphics card a couple of years ago but I'm still using this system now. It's been upgraded from Debian 7 all the way through to Debian 12.6 (as of today.) It's just as snappy as the day I built it. I run VMs on it - even a Win11 VM for testing - as well as normal internet stuff, kernel and other software compilation and, while my compile times are nothing to write home about, it does what I need it to do without complaining. That's more than I can say for a Windows system.
Does 0 - Patch allow an account transfer for a single PC? If you have an 0 - Patch on a single PC, and it croaks, can that account be transferred to another Win 10 PC? The 0 - Patch seems affordable
Well, there's no way I can update to 11 given the games they have played with it. So depending on the cost, I can pay or look for a hack. Changing to Linux will NOT let me run my DAW, vocal synth scoring app, etc.
WILL NORTON KEEP DOING THE JOB? I pay that anyway...
A simple solution exists - my studio/daw runs Win 10 Pro completely offline - This allows me to get within a year or so of the "newest/bestest" version of the daw with NO worries.
I already run my DAW on a Win10 machine that spends 99% of it's time offline. After Oct 25 that will become 100%.
@@CraigRodmellMusic In the meantime probably going to go to Linux for online things? With this and that and the other, Linux presence will increase. It's going to be a matter of reaching a critical mass of Linux before software vendors will start producing native Linux versions.
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Certainly. That's what I'm going to do with my two other Win 10 machines that I use for day to day use (including the one I'm using to write this reply). They're going to Linux.
Cheers Brian.
You're welcome
running on windows10 on a modern pc, don't have plans yet to upgrade to windows 11...
using vmware to test windows11 OS...that's what i'm doing for the moment...
I bought a Windows 11 laptop and upgraded it to Windows 10.
It's a relief to have this as an option. Another YT channel claimed Microsoft will be charging US$30 per year for Windows 10 security updates. If that's true, then it's probably better to just stick with Microsoft for updates, because it costs about the same amount of money.
If we're really lucky, Microsoft will actually listen to all the back-lash and either fix Windows 11 or bring out Windows 12 (or 13, depending on the rumours), so long as any later version of Windows is better.
Personally, I think they should just release an updated version of Windows XP. That was by far the most user-friendly and bloatware-free version of Windows.
The pricing you’ve seen from MS only applies to business/enterprise customers, and that fee is per computer (seat). It doubles in year 2, then doubles again in year 3. The consumer pricing is unknown, but will follow the same pattern.
So, let’s say that for the average consumer, MS decides to charge $55 for the first year. That becomes $110 in year 2, and then $220 in year 3. That makes it $385 in total. It is worth it? You’ll have to decide.
You’ll still be faced with replacing your hardware after that, or try to make the move to Linux. Just like where you are now, but you’ll be $385 poorer.
“Of course that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.” - Dennis Miller
We'll see. My HW is 7 years old now so it may be time. No custom water cooled loop next time though. It was a pain that wasn't worth it. Flushing the system annually was for the birds.
I'm still using my windows 7 Dell lap top had no problems, protected by Norton!
I will stay on unsupported Windows 11 while it's still available.👍
I don't see much need to change PCs just because support runs out. I never did.
I continue using 7 on a notebook, I could have installed 10 but I didn't, and I have another one with 10. As long as it works it will stay as is :P
Yes, we must have updated anti-virus and anti-spyware, for example.
Since Windows XP, Microsoft has supported for Windows for 10 years and it appears Windows 10 is no different. However, when they offered extended support for Windows 7 it was only for enterprise, not home. This is the first time, home users will get paid extended support. Since many old PCs don't support Windows 11, that will lead to allot of waste. Also, remember no software can make an old PC faster
Well said
Except download more ram will increase PC performance :p
Honestly though Microsoft has one of the most comprehensive pledges of how they are going green and not generating eWaste and yet here we are with Microsoft telling everyone they need to ditch their computers and buy a new one because Windows 11.
Funny how that eWaste does not count though eh.
Not true at all. My windows 8 laptops were klunky and unusable snails and run like brand new PCs with lighter operating systems, specifically Lubuntu and ChromeOS Flex.
My old Win 10 does everything I want it to do, the only slow-downs I have are transferring files to my various HDs. That could be made a lot faster if I used RAID or got a bunch of SDDs, but it's not much of a bother. My Intel i7 goes plenty fast enough to handle any task I throw at it, and my boot time is under 30 secs, so I don't see any point in "up" grading to an inferior OS that tattles on me to M$!
I still have friends still using Windows 7. :(
Great ! I bet they don't suffer all this W10/11 shite being enforced on them.
Me too; also still using XP and Server 2003.
My PC it's 10 years old with a 4th Gen Intel I7 12 GB Ram DDR3 use Windows 10 Pro. We have 8 Systems in the house 3 Laptop, and 5 PC ASUS included business pc from Win 10 4 gen, Win 11 8Gen, 10 Gen, and 13 Gen PC ASUS greetings from Corvallis USA
Brian, I don't know why Microsoft is always so secretive
and yet LTSC 2021 IoT will still get even longer suport than 0patch
The issue is installing win 10 on new laptops with 11 gen and up processor and NVME ssd.
As for Linux, use Zorin. It feels like Windows and support many things of Windows. Installation is easy and support old and new computers.
Something else. There's ReactOS which is an open source that has the same language of Windows so there's no compatibility issues with Windows third party programs.
However, it is an old Operating System so new software might not work and it looks like it is 32bit only.
Why no one have made it better or wrote another OS that have the same Windows environment language so people could still use same programs and give a middle f1nger to Windows?
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 has support until January 13, 2032, and it can be easily and permanently activated in well under a minute. Paying for 0patch is completely pointless.
Great video, But I doubt it will make Microsoft very happy with giving genuine unbias factual information for MS Windows 10 home users are;
1.) 0Patch at a cost of £24 per year obviously increasing with inflation etc.
2.) A plethora of Linux Distro choices "Linux Mint", "Ubuntu", "POP-OS" and many many more th3 latter being my personal choice.
3.) Pay the Microsoft yet unannounced charge that MS will possibly be forced to do against its will as it just wants you to upgrade to the latest enhanced personal data sucking version of MS Windows OS - Yeah sorry I am bias against MS Windows and still think Windows 7 64 Pro was their best ever OS since I started using MS Windows from version 3.0 a long, long time ago !
Interesting. However the learning curve isn't that steep with some Linux distros. Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop is very much like Windows for the average user.
Turn your old computers into a Proxmox server and run numerous virtual devices including Windows
The only real options you have for older hardware is use Win10 LTSC or swap to linux. Personally I think swapping to Linux is the best option especially if you already have a newer PC that can run Win11 (not that Win11 is great either). With any luck it will be canned and a better Win12 is available by Oct 2025 for those needing to run Windows
Go ahead 😊
Go ahead what?
Make my Day.
June 30, 2024: Port Master's been discovered. Port Master, nor internet connection will happen when Port Master's enabled. Is there away around-it? If you can access internet-via ethernet, you get nothing if trying to login TH-cam and Facebook.
Few days back i switched from win to linux. And the freedom I have...oh wow, wow oh wow...why didnt I do this sooner?
Apple stops offering operating system updates after just 3 years. So, theres that.
Is there any reason to get both MS and 0Patch support?
I imagine that they would conflict. Do one or the other; not both.
@@dingokidneys maybe, but since they use different fixing techniques they may give better coverage? Time will tell
What are the feature and functionality differences between Win10 Pro and the IOT version?
Best I can tell, the differences are pre-installed bloat (none in the IoT version) and licensing cost (bucketloads more for the IoT version) if you can even get a license. It's an "enterprise" license so you either need to be an "enterprise" or know someone who can sell you an enterprise activation key.
Trying to extend the life of a old system will end up costing you in the long run
With computers much easier to build these days and give you a real sence of achievement
Seen plenty of build video's here with activation from cdkey sales it could not be easier
Linux Bottles (wine on steroids) so far has run anything I’ve thrown at it. It literally sets up a mimic of the C:\ drive with Program Files x64/86 both, Users, Registry
I threw an online installer for a MMO I play with friends around the country and it just works. The game has lag issues, so I don’t see anything more or less than I was seeing on my Windows 11 box.
I’m running Garuda XFCE (I don’t need all the eye candy in the KDE Dragonized version). The Garuda start window has a gaming option that will install everything Linux noob needs to get started gaming on Linux. Including Wine, Lutris, Steam, emulators, and of course Bottles.
What about Windows 10 LTSC ?
Least there's something. Although with what Microsoft has done with Windows lately, I'd as soon as just quit getting updates. After ensuring that wifi hacker patch is in . That said I'm not really using Windows features; I'm using its core OS and running a few programs (browser, various editors, gaming). I'm not really on the internet much with Windows, so I'm content to keep using the core OS of Win 10/11 and just go from there.
Some features are useful. Narrator has improved substantially over the years, esp in Win10. I've not tested 11 much for that. That said Ms is sneaky and after this whole fiasco with Copilot and snapshotting, I'm a little hesitant to get new features.
Also, I'm someone who got into this mini PC thing. I have two Win11 machines running about the same ver of windows, they behave differently. Nothing crazy, but there was more work to do to make the two systems feel more like using one machine, if that makes sense. So once I'm done customizing, I just kinda like to let things be unless there's a serious security vuln that relates to me.
cheers
I do honestly believe the day windows 10 dies will be the same day alot of people finally give windows up and switch to linux. I did that about 2 years ago and havent looked back since
If a compiter does everything you need, then support is the only reason to upgrade. It is time to apply some of the regulations on cars to operating systems. I can drive a twenty year old and still get support for it. Microsoft wrote the vonerablites into their software they should be responsible for removing them.
You are not very accurate about Linux. There are versions that perform VERY WELL on old hardware. I have a 2011 system at home with a Centrino SINGLE CORE processor and 4 GB of RAM. I am running Zoren OS Lite on it. It does great. It isn't as fast as my Laptop with an Intel core i7 w 16 GB of RAM, but it is entirely usable. Zoren OS is based on Ubuntu, but the Lite version uses a very low demand Graphical User Interface, so old Hardware can run it well.
My conclusion so far, try install Windows 11 on unsupported PC if it is not so old but just unsupported.
Otherwise, stick to Windows 10.
Well none of them are getting my money!
Just watched your RAM usage vid, answered some of my questions but not the main one, eg, seems like every few minutes, windows are doing things in the background that they don't want you to see, in the process they ramp everything up to the limits, eating "MY ELECTRIC"!
I say this because as soon as I open task manager to see what's going on it instantly stops. The worst offender is windows security (there's an oxymoron) which was too slow in shutting itself down. The other is some compatibility prog running, this happens even in power saver mode (another oxymoron).
Seriously considering removing windows security if this keeps up.
Microsoft should drop the new hardware requirements for Windows 11 and just let users upgrade their system if they want to.
0npatch is good but it's not needed for sec pat hes for win10 or wi 7 for that matter both still have sec patches coded by m$ and they are available easily enough if you have any common sense
That said if you cant handle that basic skill level 0 patch is a good alternative or better yet swap to linux mint and use a win7 skin
I don't trust Microsoft that much, but trusting a third party company to patch your system with your data is extremely dangerous, either upgrade to another computer or use Linux
I was in uk for a few days bought new a a well nown second hand shop in lga1151 cor i5 for 20 pounds in a box seald... excelente price pc working fine with out any problems cant see myself spending 500 pouns on a motherboard processor and memory... i got 32gb ddr 4 and a cor i5 stil seald in the original box ..saying that excelente vídeo ..regarding linux i like linux mint and zorin os
I have win and linux based system. Two of my machines need to stay on win because of the software I need to use and there is not linux based apps that can replace them. I might be able be able to put linux on another machine, will have to check all my apps. Win11 has too many issues and ties one hands too much as well. The new tech they are adding is also, no way, no how. No way will I use any OS that requires an on-line account to use. MS can pound sand. Win11 UI is also horible.
Just a way to take the little hard earned money we have left.
In my opinion, such steps want to include more Microsoft spy...
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This not needed AT ALL, there are better ways even without Linux
i7 7500u cpu 7th gen here not compatible with 11
That's correct
@@Britec09 unless i use ruffus and do the tricks
@@franciscohorna5542 I've used Windows 11 and it was an unstable mess. One minute I'm playing on Steam then there's a Windows 11 update that comes out to brick my PC. Just use the latest version of Linux. Linux Mint Cinnamon is pretty easy to use, you can try it out before you install it, it has a very similar layout to Windows and it's free.
I'm still on Win10, I refuse to 'upgrade' to Win11, I have already decided on Linux Mint next year, and I'm sticking to my guns. I've given my time and money to microsoft for way too long already. Besides, the last time my computer ran the way it was supposed to was when I was using WfW 3.11.
If I might suggest, lots of free and open source software is cross-platform, so you can run it on Windows and Linux. Try switching some of your work flows to free software while you remain on Windows so you can 1) decide which software you'd like to use, and 2) get used to it. Then when you want to switch to Linux, back up your data, buy a new SSD, pull the old HDD/SSD with your Windows install out replacing it with the new SSD, load Linux Mint on that and restore your data. You still have the old disk untouched so, if you need something from it, you can just plug it in or use an external USB connector, and grab what you need.
This is how I did it for my 67 year old brother. He's loving Linux Mint because it has all the software he needs set up as he likes it, all his old data is where he expects it and the machine is much, much more responsive than it was before.
@@dingokidneys I've already done that. LibreOffice, Audacity, etc. I switched to open source and cross-platform basically everything after microsoft started with the office 365 subscription BS. I'm literally at the point I only need to swap my OS at this point, and I'm already running testbed computers on Mint. I'm mainly still using Win10 mostly for convenience, and I have some hardware upgrades planned to coincide with the OS swap.
For a home user that only surfs the web, checks email, watches youtube, there is very little difficulty swapping to linux. I wish the industry would push that notion harder.
Sounds like you've got the situation well in hand, and in much the same manner that I'm thinking of going. Glad your brother's experience is going the way I'm expecting mine to go. :)
That one is not for free and seems like sketchy.
I shall move over to Linux.
I have a (currently) 13 yr old HP DV7 laptop that I have upgraded the HW to its maximum that is running Win10 Pro and I LOVE my laptop. I do have other newer machines (1 currently 3yr old MSI Katana GF66 and a custom liquid cooling loop gaming/video editing desktop I just built this year) but my 13 yr old is running like a thoroughbred still with all the upgrades and I LOVE it. I really don't want to abandon it because it is working like a champion still. I decided to accept that it cannot and should not go to Win11 Pro BUT with this when next year rolls around I just MIGHT clone the machine and take a shot at forcing Win11 Pro onto it and see what happens to keep it going until the HW dies......I figure if the upgrade to Win11 Pro fails then I can always roll it back to Win10 Pro with the clone I did.
I don’t know about this solution and I’ve never heard of these people. Anyway, screw Microsoft their phony security updates they Don’t work anyway. My computer still got hacked on a regular basis until I created a pretty vigorous and robust network security infrastructure. I’m still using Microsoft Office 2007. I will not pay for office 365. As a Matter of fact, I will not pay for any Microsoft products anymore. Just before windows 10 came out I bought a copy of Windows 7. That was the first time that I paid for a copy of Windows since Windows 98 SE. They came out with windows 10 so fast I never got a chance to use it and it has been sitting in my desk drawer for about 10 years. I have been getting into virtual machines and I wanted to see what windows 7 was like in today’s day and age. Well, the installer froze and I have not been able to install it. That is $120 down the toilet. That’s about $160 in today’s money. I’ve been using Linux for 17 years and have been looking for an excuse to ditch windows once and for all, this is the excuse.
Imagine the billions of PCs and laptops which will be dumped in landfills due to Microsux being GREEDY. Just so sad. Imagine all the e-waste and the effects on the environment. Cancer is getting more common than not--due to so much pollution.
If I could run ALL of my games on Steam through Linux Mint... I would. I don't see that happening. So, I will continue using Windows 10 until Steam says I can't. I will learn Linux, but only for watching Netflix, Amazon Prime(Hopefully), Yahoo, and other streaming services. Will use VLC to play my old DVD movies. Yes kids... I still have a DVD burner/player in my computer. Haters need not respond.
If i dont want the security updates or any features at all, the OS should be free, or just the base amount.
I can get additional firewall or scanner of my choosing or just dont CLICK THE SPAMM.
I can also open up my emails and banking with VIRTUAL MACHINE on dual boot ish, and when i have tested it is safe, i can just kill the VM and go to my original OS.
I also do clean OS installations once a year, when it is possible, scanners wont get everything, but formatting does.
Do this 0PATCH for all old Operating Systems too, and gaming goes into WILDFIRE mode never seen before.
Security must be optional, we dont need to go online with oldies, or just a quick game update.
We just wana use the old hardwares with honor they deserve.
Using an unsupported OS is very dangerous. You can get in serious trouble even without downloading anything! If it was that easy to protect yourself as you say then we could use Windows XP too in 2024.
@@SpikeGR-Official Bull.
Hacking is always social engineering, does not work like Hollywood says.
@@SpikeGR-Official You can always get cheapo oldie computer to check softwares and sites if they are nefarious, just dont be stooopid.
Or use VM first like i said as one method.
All should use win 11
So what you're saying is, Linux has another 5 years to get more people off of Windows 10. lol 😛
In all seriousness though, it may be a good idea to do a video addressing the myth that Linux makes computers faster. The myth comes from computers "feeling" faster as applications can open up faster, the desktop can be more responsive, and some games do have higher FPS on Linux than they do on Windows on the same hardware. Linux cannot turn an i5 CPU into an i9 CPU, nor can it make your RAM twice its size. However, since Linux is not collecting your data or running a billion processes in the background that you don't know about, the system will feel more responsive overall because it has a far smaller footprint on system resources for the OS to run. The feeling of responsiveness is similar to what you get when you get a new computer that can handle all the Windows bloat better with more powerful hardware so the myth was born that Linux makes your existing PC "faster" like a new computer.
I think the Linux community who does know that this is just a myth as a whole could probably do a better job of setting the record straight, and that it's this more efficient way of running a computer that makes older hardware viable for longer time periods. However, people hopefully aren't expecting any kind of software to be able to "upgrade hardware". Most tech savvy people making the switch should at least know that much about how hardware and software works (at least that's the assumption, but it's always dangerous to assume).
Windows XP had over 13 years supports and Windows 7 had over 11 years. Yet Windows 10 gets just over 10 years, yet more users want windows 10 and not windows 11. People are only using it as they are being forced to use it, as it shipped with new PC's. I think WINE and proton has come along way now that nearly most of my software run better on Linux than on Windows as most decent Linux distros has better reliability. No big need to know which telemetry registry settings to disable or tweak and other settings in windows under network or admin groups policy settings. You have a small learning curve on an OS like Zorin 17.1 which is made in the UK and is setup to be able to run most windows programs as is, but with some small additions like only installing deb applications as a majority with protonup and proton GE with steam get latest AMD and nVidia drivers. Been playing Guild Wars legacy complete MMORP and GW2, No mans sky, Halo master chief collection straight up out of the box no tweaking. I do not see the fuss with Linux now a days.
If you count the EOL of Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 than Windows 10's lifespan would be over 16 years, almost 16.5 years.
@@Jon717 That is more for business/ corporate users than personal or home users, that is why I never included that and the fact you need to pay extra for that version. Most people had the free upgrade when MS pushed them out to force users over to the next OS.
@@MarkFitzgerald2014 You only have to pay for it if you're part of a business. That's really the only way to get a product key outside of third-party key resellers, anyway. Fortunately, getting a digital license for it is quick, easy, and free.
@@Jon717 I tried looking for a Win 10 Enterprise LTS key from resellers not had any success yet for my kids to use an OS they are used to.
@@MarkFitzgerald2014 HWID activation, Massgravel
I never pay for anything
Even though i trust no company, i trust every other company more than Microsoft to maintain the security of win10 without adding more and more telemetry and spyware "features". Too bad that Linux still is in no shape to be used on a daily bases for a normal user - i would love to finally get away from Microsoft for good.
windows 11 is good just debloat it and tweak it..why still use windows 10
zero patch is scam - by my opinion - i am sure that free ver will do nothing
Of course it won't. You can't expect anything free in 2024 to be decent. Go for the Pro version, that's what I did and it worked atreat.