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Mine just arrived today, wow, learning all the adjustments now, also ordered the Atlas headrest, but they are a few months backed up, first impressions are amazing, but I really need that headrest, black w/ cyan, Thanks for all the helpful videos which helped me in the decision making
6'5" 280 lbs and I love this chair. The chair back hits my upper back and not at my shoulders but not really a bad thing. The chair back does a great job conforming to my back so it can be barely noticeable where the top of the chair back ends. I was quite worried that I wouldnt quite make the transition to this comfortably, because it does encourage better posture and sitting back in the chair really makes the chair more comfortable, as it puts the chair back into proper position to do what it is meant to do. After about a week I felt neutral about it, then after two weeks I wondered what I would be willing to sit in after it.
Maybe a leap v2 or haworth fern or the steelcase gester... I'm a big guy too and love the leap v2 but daily my embody. You might love the leap v2 plus if you can find one.
I am 6'3" 180lbs and have owned this chair since 2014. I cannot recommend it enough. Both my job and my hobbies have me in a chair for the bulk of my day; so I researched chairs with my future health in mind. I love that the Embody encourages me to use good ergonomics, but also doesn't punish me to a noticeable extent if I want to be slouched back or off to the side. I was blown away at how comfortable the seat and back were despite there being no traditional cushion, to the point where I prefer this over the extremely padded chairs at work. I feel less fatigued, sore or pinched after a long session than any other chair I've owned or used. After 8 years now (2022) my chair looks almost as good as the day I bought it. Despite it being mainly plastic and still having the original seat material. There is barely any sign of wear; despite being used almost every day with more 16+ hour gaming sessions than I care to admit too. If you have to be in a chair for long periods, you should always get up and move around at least once an hour... but human nature informs us we are not always going to do that. Knowing that, make the investment in your future health and get a good chair. I'm in my 50's now, all the stupid stuff I did when I was younger has started to catch up with me. I take my health more seriously and I don't regret a dime of what I spent on this chair. It is worth it.
@@nickknudson2394 pads wear on those pretty fast, more QC issues, too. If they were less expensive, they’d make a better alternative to Herman Miller chairs.
@@nickknudson2394 i agree, the leaps and gestures are way more comfortable within the first 20 minutes of sitting but the embody keeps you comfortable ALL DAY. I get way more support by the embody and it disperses the force of my bony ass SO WELL. This is not something a comfortable cushion can do because that’s not how cushions work…they only absorb force. Herman miller just got their engineering right.
I've been looking at tonnes of videos trying to ascertain which chair I was gonna get and never did it occur to me that I play the guitar and need a chair that properly facilitates that. Thanks a bunch for being so comprehensive in your review mate! ;)
My guy, I purchased an Aeron remastered yesterday from a local dealer after watching your review videos. I was debating between embody and aeron for 2 weeks and NOW you release this?! Haha.
regarding the arm rests: it really helps to lift the arms slightly and then move it in or out. Then it's actually working quite well, doesn't require too much of muscle or sound like you break something. Admittedly, it's still a little easier using both hands, but I manage to do it with one hand as well.
Got my Atlas Headrest today....have had my embody for a 4 years now and still love it. legit the best chair ever. The headrest sends it to another level I didn't think was possible!
I just bought the embody after reading reviews, then went looking for videos on it. I wish I'd have watched this beforehand so I could have used the affiliate link. This video was very well put together. Thanks for it.
I LOVE my Embody chair! Was the best Herman Miller buy that I have done. I do want to get the gaming chair at some point, because I fell in love with the color of it!
Hey dude, not sure if someone might have mentioned this before, but to spread the arm rests, you have to lift it and then move it outwards. Don't force it :) Hope this helps!
Had no idea why this appeared in my recommended until you started playing the intro to Getlemen Don't, and then I suddenly understood. But hey, have a sub for that.
Absolutely right on the color. I've had an embody with blue fabric since 2014 and there are a few stains that are impossible to remove. When I get the chair serviced under warranty I plan to have them replace the fabric in black.
switched to this chair in december 2020 and will never use another office/gaming chair again. It completely got rid of my herniated disc (l5-s1) pain. Also awesome review dan!
Wow, and I came here because i was looking between humanscale freedom and embody. I have herniated disk l5-s1 also and i cant have strong lumbar. Thanks for this comment! Now i know what to buy.
I just bought the black Logitech version of the Embody... should get here today! I was scared to watch your review since I already bought the chair, but I'm glad to hear you enjoy it!
@@Ahnestly Awesome! I also just saw your review on the Neue Chair, which is the chair I'm coming from... I've had it for a few years, and it is really starting to hurt my back, even with the headrest... I finally decided enough is enough... I'm getting my dream chair (I've reached peak nerd... I have a dream chair....)
Really love this review! I also love my Embody chair! But I have to say that the biggest gripe/flaw in the chair are the arm rests! This may not be an issue depending on your height (I'm 185cm). I find that the arm rests sit far to forward and make it impossible too have the chair sit up against a desk whilst the arm rests are at the correct height to have your elbows/arms in an ergonomic resting position. If you're someone who leans back a lot, the arm rests are pretty unusable. I'd really love if the arm rests could've been able to move forward & back like the seat's cushion extender. Would even pay for a high quality aftermarket modification if they exist.
@Ahnestly I was very tempted to go with the Aerons due to their arms! 😅🤦 And thankyou for the videos! I was completely unaware of the future Embody headrest mod! Am eagerly awaiting more sneak peaks and news on this! Will likely be an instant purchase for me! 🙌 Can only dream that they might also look into making arm rests mods. 🤔😅
I’m having the same issue with my Embody. I’ve only had a couple of days and love everything about it except those darn armrests! I like to scoot in close to my desk, and they make it so challenging to do that while still using them properly as arm rests. If you find a good solution, do share!
@@Ahnestly I would feel a ton of pressure all along my lower back. Did research on reddit and people reported that you'll feel that for a few days. After that initial adjustment period, I would feel this cooling sensation across my lower back whenever I'd stand. I think this chair legit fixed my back.
Seeing as this is the only Embody review you'll need to watch, and I've annoyed Ahnestly with enough of my comments today, I'm going to drop one more thing here specifically for anyone considering the Logitech Embody. If you watch Logitech Embody specific reviews you may see mention that the foam padding in the seat is cut off and you can feel where the foam ends. Initially, the Logitech Embody was in fact designed this way and only covered the seat at it's minimum seat depth, and when extended at all the extended area was unpadded. I received my Logi Embody from Herman Miller about a week and a half ago now and realized I did not noticed this problem, and my foam is in fact covering the entire extended seat. After collaborating with some people on the Herman Miller subreddit we found out that all Logitech Embodies produced after ~2/12/21 (Maybe up to a week earlier, but no more, we don't have an exact date pinned) have been revised and the copper infused foam will cover the entirety of the seat, even when fully extended, so this is no longer a con to take into consideration unless buying your Logitech Embody used. Important to note: You won't see this issue mentioned in any UK based reviewers coverage of the chair, and this issue will not be worth considering when buying used in the UK, as due to different regulations there the Logitech Embody's UK variant has always had full seat foam coverage. The thread is available here for anyone interested: www.reddit.com/r/hermanmiller/comments/m1k9ya/embody_gaming_refresh_in_north_america/?
@@warrentran The Logitech Embody has a section of foam padding along the spine, which the standard does not. This bothers some people to no end (can make a little noise when rubbing up against the back, and on occasion some people have complained about it causing some discomfort.) It's something that the majority of people are indifferent about, but some are irritated by. At this point the biggest reason to get a Logitech variant is just if you really like the aesthetics, to be completely honest.
I just received the Logitech Embody today. It's a night and day difference sitting in the embody over my old Secret Lab Titan XL. Definitely happy with the purchase.
Hmm I actually went to a local HM dealer today in my city, and going in after seeing raving reviews on youtube about the Embody, surprisingly I didn't love it. The back definitely didn't "flex" as much or as easily as it seemed in the video, and what I noticed is, when I turned side to side to "stretch" my back, I noticed the middle of the upper back was pushing up against my spine in a painful manner. I can also feel the "system" of the back rest quite easily through the fabric. It's definitely not a terrible chair, but I think for me I found the Aeron so much more comfortable and supportive.
Haworth's fern office chair flexes with your back too. I found this chair brand while working at my old company and decided to buy my own after I had left.
@@klubhead7070 if you’re skinny or average in weight/height. I think the fern is perfect but if you’re on the bigger side I’d go with the embody. I actually own both chairs now and the embody is my more recent purchase. Idk what it is but the fern feels more like a task chair and I feel more productive in it whereas the embody I can definitely start to slouch and relax more in
@@EndeavorabIe I’m 5’8 155lbs but I have the shoulders of someone of 6’0 😂. I’m looking for a task and gaming chair. I definitely don’t want to slouch a lot
Great review! Have had my gaming Embody for a week or so now, and I absolutely love it. Not sure if you'll see this Ahnestly, but a quick tip from someone who also likes to put their feet under their chair and "freak out" who was also annoyed by the clacking plastic. I found the best thing to reduce that clacking (for me) is when you want to have your feet under the chair for a while to fully pull the seat depth in to it's shortest setting. The clacking is just your calves repeatedly pushing up the seat pan and letting it drop since lifting pulls the adjustable section out of it's locked positions in the rail so it can be moved. (Which you can see at ~16:03) If you can draw in your seat depth enough to not push up the edge with your calves, no more clacking plastic. :) Though it could depend on the person. I'm 5'11" with a lot of my height being long legs, so I normally sit with the seat at it's maximum length, so drawing it all the way in is a drastic difference. And if not, at least odds are that clacking isn't going to hinder the durability of the chair, or at least I wouldn't imagine it could cause any serious issues since it's a piece intended to move that way. Also, if you haven't tried fully loosening the lumbar in tandem with full recline, give it a go sometime, I find it helps to really lean as far back in the chair as possible since in addition to the recline the back will have more flex allowing it to bend back a little more.
Wow great tips! As for the plastic clacking, it happens less for me when it's extended and 100% of the time when it's fully withdrawn. Haha not a huge deal. I have a footrest so my feet are on that nowadays
@@Ahnestly Well if you ask me, all that matters is that you can find a position for the seat depth that reduces that sound whether it's all the way in or out. :P Everybody's built different and sits differently, so it would make sense they'd have different sweet spots to avoid the issue, but I agree it's not a huge deal either way. Still need to get a good footrest, I've been kicking up my feet on a suitcase for a while now because I've been too lazy to look into proper footrests. 😅
Hahaha mavix sent over their chair and a really simple but awesome footrest. Becoming my favorite bc I love to fidget. www.mavix.com/mavix-footrest.html
19:03 @ahnestly ive found that if you pull up on the arms as you adjust in or out its very smooth. it seems the arms are purposefully difficult to move from the "down" position
I do want to add if you shop around you can get one in the 1K ballpark new. I got white frame, titanium base, dark carbon sync fabric and carpet or hardwood casters for $1,083
I just bought an open box Logitech Embody for $1,100 or so. Should arrive by the 8th of August. Can’t wait! Really liked the balance version I tried in the store.
@@vgman94 loving it this far. Took a little bit for my body to adjust and the chair to break in (still ongoing) but it’s been really not to switch up how I sit when I want and not be restricted to just specific sitting positions.
@@mike_majora I got it on eBay from one of the outlet centers run by an approve distributor. It was the Design Within Reach Outlet store for me personally.
@@Unavenged Gotcha, thanks for the info. Coincidentally, I'm actually heading over to the Design Within Reach store in NY today to test out the chair some more.
I wish you luck (and patience) with the contractors and your office situation! It felt like ages while waiting for contractors to 1) get availability on the schedule to get me listed and 2) actually finish the project. I hope it goes well for you!
I'm seriously considering this chair. I'm split between a used refurbished model for 850, or brand new in the box from the AD for 1150, with the warranty and, importantly, returns.
I just received my gaming Embody about a week ago, you won't be disappointed. :P The aches and pains in my back are massively reduced, and now when I go to habitually crack my back I don't hear a dozen little pops and cracks, maybe 1 or 2, and sometimes I just get nothing. Seems like it's really doing a good thing for my spine and I haven't been using the chair very long. Fair warning though, my tailbone hurt quite a bit the first few days while I adjusted to the chair due to my bad posture, so that's kind of a literal pain in the ass, lmao
Just got it in! It's amazing!!! I was super surprised on how small the chair is but when I sat in it, it blew me away. My old chair could not adjust the arm rest and so doing that on this chair, it relaxed my already tensed shoulders. I tweaked it a bit to my liking and it just feels good. Rolling is super smooth, and stretching out arms above and reaching behind the chair feels so natural.
The Logitech version chair is awesome isn’t it? I don’t know how I’ve gone this long without knowing anything about Herman Miller. This style chair has been out since 2009 when I was 26 and now I’m 39. The only difference is that I work from home permanently now due to the pandemic and I needed home office equipment. Now I have a top of the line chair. I bought mine Logitech because I wanted to ensure that I was getting a newly built chair and I only paid $1100 for the chair on eBay shipped brand new.
@@boots_4_me Hey, I know this is an old comment, but I was looking into a logitech embody. Is the guy you bought from on ebay the one that ships from Canada for 1000 USD + 60 shipping? Any customs fees? Sticker on bottom? Came with the logitech clip for the back? I could get that one, or get one Saturday for 15% off MSRP. I don't know which way I want to go yet. I like that I have guaranteed warranty getting from a dealer, but it also costs 250+ more that way.
WELCOME HOME BOOTY .. you sold me a chair 😂 man thanks for the great review.. i thought u were the only one going in deep of the actual product and not what its said about it. Kudos Sir 👍
Love your video. Very informative and interesting. I want to buy Embody but really wanted a comfortable ergonomic chair with head rest. You mentioned about hear rest in the beginning of the video. Please share what we can do to get a matching head rest for Embody.
I just ordered an Embody because of this review. Seems like the perfect chair to me. Could only go with full black and Rythm Fabric because it was the only one without 4+ month waiting period. Really hope the fabric isnt too bad :P
Hey Ahnestly, hopefully I can ask a quick question of you? I had been doing research and recently landed on the Steelcase Amia. There's a dealer in my town and I was able to test-drive their chairs. They also have a hefty discount they're hooking me up with, so I was balling out on the options, like, leather seat, polished aluminum base, the works. I started having a few second thoughts about it though thinking about this chair. I can't test drive one, and I'm reasonably certain I'll be sticking with the Amia just because I know my gf likes it, and I *know* this is totally subjective and you kind of can't answer this, but: Do you think I would regret getting an Amia if I test-drove one of these later and really liked it? Do you use both IRL? Have either been your "daily driver"? Thanks!
Hey! I LOVE the Amia (not sure if you’ve seen my video) but the embody is my daily driver and my #1 pick. One benefit of the embody is it can have a headrest (coming soon) but the Amia can never have a headrest. If you have time, why not try the embody and then return it if you find you don’t like it over the Amia? Returns are super easy and then you can pick up the Amia after! Hope this helps! If you decide to pick up and embody, please consider using my link - it helps the channel a LOT!
So I think at this point, I am Embody all the way. Every time I sit on my Aeron though, I'm always like damn that feels good. The Embody just gives me more flexibility and I LOVE the way my butt feels when I sit in it. The Aeron feels better on my lower back though! The Gaming Aeron is different...it has a different back support than the classic Aerons.
Nice! Please consider using my link if you decide to pick up! As for my paint, it is the city shadow by Benjamin Moore! I did a full desk breakdown video if you want to see what's going on in this room!
Very good Review. i got an Embody but you need to take time to customize and learn how to use it. of course you will need a very good desk to have best confort. Next one present your office!..greetings from Colombia
The best review on the Embody chair online, fantastic stuff! I've been on the fence on this chair for such a long time, but now the only thing I need more clarification on are the fabrics, between Balance and the Sync. I live in Southeast Asia, so the tropical climate means that it's warm and humid all year round, so wondering if anyone has any advice/experience between these two fabric choices!
Hey man solid honest review as always appreciate the work you put into these reviews. Can you maybe make a video about how to properly sit in an Aeron remastered chair? I know a lot of people who been slouching all their life (including me) and having a really hard time dialing into the Aeron. There's tons of posts on HM reddit where people complain about back pain, leg numbess, circulation problem etc. I've had my chair for over a month and still not really feeling comfortable in it. Thanks!
Thanks for this review, not sure if I'm going for this or some other chair, but you have put it on my shortlist to check it out in a shop And great tip about the colour, that reminded me of all the not black office chairs I've seen over the years. Almost all had dark spots.
That back knob isn't lumbar adjustment. I thought it was for the longest time. It's actually upper back tilt. You can see it in the video - the upper back is tensioning/untensioning significantly more than the lower back. It's real purpose is to ensure that your head is balanced and upright through all the tilt positions - this is why the Embody was designed without a headrest; their designers believed that with your head perfectly balanced and upright, there'd be no reason for one - costs more, but also impedes natural movement. I've had this chair for 12 years now... and I learnt that function after 11 years ago - the instances where I wanted a headrest went from say... 5% of the time... down to 2% of the time. A significant improvement!
Love this chair! Can you tell me what the lowest top-of-seat height you can move this to is? I have quite a low desk and I have trouble finding chairs that will go down low enough for my desk. I usually end up taking off the wheels and replacing them with sliders to get the chair as low as possible! So knowing the height of the top of the seat cushion from the floor at the lowest setting would really help.
After having the chair for a year and experiencing this myself it seems one of the most common failure points on the embody is the quite amazingly shitty internal design of the button mechanism. the way the button on the inside works is the button is 1 whole piece that extends into the arm with 1 arm pointing forward towards the front of arm rest and 1 arm pointing towards the back of the armrest and hovering above the sliding tube part of the arm. (forwards being toward the outer half of the seat where your legs dangle off and backwards being towards the backrest of the chair) inside the arm of the chair the front arm of the button extends out of and is held in place. This creates a lever action on the opposite arm of the button the rests above the sliding arm mechanism pulling the mechanism up and allowing the arm to move. It's fairly cheap and it's fairly effective the problem is that because it's made of plastic and not say.. metal so you strain the front arm of the button every time you push it and if there is any faults in it at all even microscopic ones repeated use can cause it to snap. Which it seems to... alarmingly often......
I've been hearing some people talk about that...there's definitely some oomph in that tail area but that's not unlike the remastered Aeron line. If it hurts, recommend you loosen up the back lumbar a bit or sit a little leaned ba(ck (unclick the back by 1 and then tighten the tension so you're still closer to 90) rather than straight up!
@@Ahnestly So the sitting slightly tilted actually helped a ton when I went back and tried it again. What's your experience with sitting like this while using a keyboard? I'm worried if I have to sit back like that for it to be comfortable that it could be harder to do my work (programming). Right now I know i'm getting 1 of 3 chairs, aeron, embody gaming, or knoll generation. I really want the embody since it looks great, but I gotta be certain it will give me what I need for that price
I have mine barely tilted. I'm not a programmer so can't tell you, but I imagine it should be fine? If you lean forward to see your screen, that might mean you Gota get a bigger screen? Or a chair that can tilt forward like an Aeron? Not sure
Embody owner. The first few days can be rough as you learn how to adjust your body. The beauty of this chair is the adjustments are really good and you can fine tune accordingly. Once you figure that out you should be good to go. Very important: take the time to learn all the adjustments and how your body responds. That's when you realize how great the Embody is. Also the build is incredible, better be for the price LOL. One more thing... the chair may not be for everyone. I powered through the first few days and am happy I did. Totally worth it.
@@voodoodisco I went and bought both a maxed aeron and the gaming embody. My suspisions were correct. The padding on the normal embody is too thin so I could feel the back pieces. The thicker gaming one is more comfortable. It seems that this chair is also particular to height. The thorasic cradle on the chair is stationary and mine is just barely tall enough to use it. if I slouch just a little the thing digs into me again. Maybe i'll make a video explaining that because I haven't seen a single one on it
Does the embody offer solid lumbar support? I see it wraps the whole back, just wanted to know if it feels supported at the lower back. Thank you. Great video brother.
When I pulled my Aeron out of the shipping box I was shocked at how small it was. You just expect them to be a lot bigger for some reason. It's heavy as hell though, lol. I just got my Aeron from HM a few weeks ago and I've been heavily debating sending it back to try the Embody. Thanks for this video.
Lol the embody looks tiny because it's got a hugeee bottom part, but a itty bitty back rest. And yeah, these chairs are not light and deceptively so bc you think with all the mesh, that's like all the weight removed! Appreciate the kind words!!!
@@PodofGold I debated for about a year and didn't buy one until I knew everything there is to know. It's definitely a B, but thanks! I ended up taking a drive to test one out and the Embody just isn't for me.
@@mischievousamoeba I hear ya! First time I sat in an Embody I said "nope!" And went to a remastered Aeron. Finally gave in after learning more about Embody, gave it a week, and now I refuse to sit in anything else. Took me a week of getting used to it, tweaking the adjustments, etc.
I am currently also considering buying the Embody, but am still unsure since I'm relatively tall (6'3) and like you stated the chair has no headrest. Was also thinking about buying the Aeron just because of the 3rd party headrest but if the Embody really also gets one I might just go ahead and buy that one.
The Embody does seem like a great chair...but after WFH on my couch and sitting in a C-shape for weeks on end, I wanted a chair that would help my posture. I don't really sit cross legged that much in chairs anyways, so I went with a fully-loaded remastered Aeron. Although I still really want to try an Embody. I feel like there are things I would appreciate about both, but ultimately I want to have better posture so I think the Aeron was the right choice for me. Great video!
Imma go with the Aeron for the same reason. Embody looks like it would be a comfier gaming chair but I'm more interested in proper posture, forward tilt, and the lumbar options that the Aeron has. Now I have to hunt for deals as the new price is hard to swallow (even if my work is covering the majority of it).
Would you prefer the regular version over the Logitech version? It seems like the Logitech version is louder cus of the foam but the foam might be softer?
Hey frank, see my links! It’s on sale right now for 15% off. HM usually doesn’t go any lower! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links!
I picked one up today from DWR for 900. They said it was pretty much new since it was still wrapped with no signs of any usage. However, told me there's no warranty. Does HM require any form of purchasing documentation When trying to utilize their warranty?
Hi, congratulations on your wonderful review, I'm writing to you from Italy, in my country the Embody for gaming is now 15% off, is it just as good? do you recommend it? Thank you!
I subscribed the moment I head these 2 words: "Embody" and "Headrest". Been shopping around but have been on the fence with this chair due to lack of headrest.
Better yet - you’ll get a video comparing the aeron classic vs aeron remastered vs embody. My set flooded and I have a lot of stuff I need to review, so it might take a bit though....sorry!
Hi from Down Under. I've just started using my new Embody today following your fantastic TH-cam reviews. However, if the chair is not as good as you say then I'll be knocking on your door to give you a piece of my mind! The only thing I was disappointed about was the fact that it doesn't have a forward tilt as I use my keyboard all of the time, unlike you gamers who just slouch around all day. It took me a few hours before I discovered that the chair can be used in forward tilt mode - something that is probably well-known to experts such as yourself. I am very happy with the chair and find the seat more comfortable than my Steelcase Leap, although I prefer the lumbar support of the Leap better for me. I was delighted with myself when I discovered that the Embody can be used in the forward tilt mode by reversing the tilting process. With one or two feet on an angled foot rest, probably there is more control with just the one foot for better balance, I sit up against the desk and loosen the recline tension so that it is comfortable to recline into the upright position - the reverse of its intention. Also I lock the tilt limiter at the first setting so as not to catapult backwards. Later on I will order a head rest from Atlas which has a current lead time of 3 months. I haven't found your review of the production model but will keep searching. Keep up the good work. Alan.
First of all, let me stop you. Since you were going to dish out the money to fly out all the way over here, why not buy me a ticket instead and I'll fly over to you ;-D hahaha. The Embody is still my favorite chair overall. I am slightly confused by how you're sitting in forward tilt mode! Would love to see a video or even a Paint sketch of how you're sitting! (are you just sitting on the front lip of the chair, which flexes and bends forward slightly?). As for the headrest, I managed to bungle up the one they sent to me so waiting on another! Fingers crossed it comes in this week!
I really wanted to like this chair. Sadly this one doesn't work for me, the lowest supporting pixels are stiff and don't move at all, poking inside my lower back. Tilting the back so it's less pronounced makes my shoulders and neck hurt. The extended part of the seat is also not pixelated and you can feel the difference between the extended and non-extended part. This is less pronounced if you wear something like Jeans. Either way HM has quite the customer service, so I'm having mine returned, I suggest trying all of these for yourself if you get the same kind of service where you live. @Ahnestly I would love to see a review of the steelcase gesture on your channel, you do bring up a lot of great points.
Hey! Quick question - where are you getting the balance material from??? Didn’t see it anymore and I’m making a 1 year later video! As for your question, the gaming embody has the sync material (granted they added a texture) and it’s muchhh more cushy but you do lose breathability!
@@Ahnestly Hi. There's a place near me in the EU offering a decent price for new in a sealed box (authorised dealer) and they have Balance and Sync versions. It sounds like Sync might be more comfortable, or is Balance just as comfortable in reality? I cannot try before I buy unfortunately, although I have sat in one of these chairs and liked it (but cannot recall what material it had).
If you can wait til Friday, you’ll hear my experience with both! If it’s mfr date is after February, 2021, then the balance will have received an extra cushion layer on the seat. Mine unfortunately was made in December 2020 so doesn’t have the extra padding. I loved my balance until I tried the sync and was like damnit the extra padding is nice.
@@Ahnestly I'm ready!! 😂😂😂 I'm leaning toward Sync at the moment as I think perhaps it will be more comfortable and easier to keep clean... Looking forward to your video!
Yeah the lumbar support is solid. Generally feels better for taller folks. Just buy one and if you don't like it, return it. Super easy to do. If you do decide to pick one up, please consider using my links as it really helps this channel!! Thank you in advance!
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Mine just arrived today, wow, learning all the adjustments now, also ordered the Atlas headrest, but they are a few months backed up, first impressions are amazing, but I really need that headrest, black w/ cyan, Thanks for all the helpful videos which helped me in the decision making
Whoa, an actual review for a chair that makes me know the pros, cons, and features. Weird. Great job dude Loved it. Keep up the great work!
I found one of these USED for only $350. Thanks to this video, I know it's 100% working and I'm 100% buying it!!!!
damn noice!
Omg what a find I am gonna tell my partner that I need one of these for the office. I’ll try to spend 1k on a super lightly used one.
@@youngkinghedwig you can spend $600-700 on lightly used shipped from ebay.
imagine how many farts have been planted into the seat of your used chair.
@@chunkymilkimagine how many farts have been planted into the air
I do not know why I find this guy’s videos so satisfying but I just love him.
6'5" 280 lbs and I love this chair. The chair back hits my upper back and not at my shoulders but not really a bad thing. The chair back does a great job conforming to my back so it can be barely noticeable where the top of the chair back ends. I was quite worried that I wouldnt quite make the transition to this comfortably, because it does encourage better posture and sitting back in the chair really makes the chair more comfortable, as it puts the chair back into proper position to do what it is meant to do. After about a week I felt neutral about it, then after two weeks I wondered what I would be willing to sit in after it.
Maybe a leap v2 or haworth fern or the steelcase gester... I'm a big guy too and love the leap v2 but daily my embody. You might love the leap v2 plus if you can find one.
I am 6'3" 180lbs and have owned this chair since 2014. I cannot recommend it enough. Both my job and my hobbies have me in a chair for the bulk of my day; so I researched chairs with my future health in mind. I love that the Embody encourages me to use good ergonomics, but also doesn't punish me to a noticeable extent if I want to be slouched back or off to the side. I was blown away at how comfortable the seat and back were despite there being no traditional cushion, to the point where I prefer this over the extremely padded chairs at work. I feel less fatigued, sore or pinched after a long session than any other chair I've owned or used. After 8 years now (2022) my chair looks almost as good as the day I bought it. Despite it being mainly plastic and still having the original seat material. There is barely any sign of wear; despite being used almost every day with more 16+ hour gaming sessions than I care to admit too. If you have to be in a chair for long periods, you should always get up and move around at least once an hour... but human nature informs us we are not always going to do that. Knowing that, make the investment in your future health and get a good chair. I'm in my 50's now, all the stupid stuff I did when I was younger has started to catch up with me. I take my health more seriously and I don't regret a dime of what I spent on this chair. It is worth it.
Does your Embody make noticeable creaking / squeaking sounds? Also did you buy it new or refurbished/second hand?
@@is9273 Bought it new, and very little / rare noise. I did get the regular version, not the gaming version.
@@Frraksurred Thanks
I tried the Embody and the Aeron the other week and instantly feel in love with the embody. Can’t wait to own one.
Woot woot!
Steelcase is better lol
@@nickknudson2394 pads wear on those pretty fast, more QC issues, too. If they were less expensive, they’d make a better alternative to Herman Miller chairs.
@@nickknudson2394 i agree, the leaps and gestures are way more comfortable within the first 20 minutes of sitting but the embody keeps you comfortable ALL DAY. I get way more support by the embody and it disperses the force of my bony ass SO WELL. This is not something a comfortable cushion can do because that’s not how cushions work…they only absorb force. Herman miller just got their engineering right.
I have an embody. Hell yeah I'm interested in seeing a headrest!
Hell yeah!!!
I've been looking at tonnes of videos trying to ascertain which chair I was gonna get and never did it occur to me that I play the guitar and need a chair that properly facilitates that. Thanks a bunch for being so comprehensive in your review mate! ;)
Thank you!!! I did a 1 year follow up in case you wanna learn about the headrest and differences between the non gaming and gaming embody!
Just bought one. On the way now. As a student taking online MRI classes, it’s going to be clutch.
niceeeee!!!!
Honestly don't know how I made it in time but I scored one for $40 from a surplus warehouse. It'll take a little cleaning but damn is it nice!
My guy, I purchased an Aeron remastered yesterday from a local dealer after watching your review videos. I was debating between embody and aeron for 2 weeks and NOW you release this?! Haha.
LOL. Hey if you love your Aeron, don't look back!
Trust me , Aeron is the best among all
@@Yo12327 loving it so far!
regarding the arm rests: it really helps to lift the arms slightly and then move it in or out. Then it's actually working quite well, doesn't require too much of muscle or sound like you break something. Admittedly, it's still a little easier using both hands, but I manage to do it with one hand as well.
Thank you!!
Got my Atlas Headrest today....have had my embody for a 4 years now and still love it. legit the best chair ever. The headrest sends it to another level I didn't think was possible!
The best review i’ve seen... excellent work sir.
Really kind of you. Thank you!!!
what im looking for, nice comprehensive yet simple review, nice job
My grandparents have this chair, had it for years. Very nice.
yes i need to know about embody headrest, just got my logitech/embody chair, love it!!
They said 9-12 months and all the gaming embodys will get love too :)
I just bought the embody after reading reviews, then went looking for videos on it. I wish I'd have watched this beforehand so I could have used the affiliate link. This video was very well put together. Thanks for it.
Damn wish you would have used my link too! Thanks for the kind words and hope you enjoy!!
Finally a good video about this chair. Thank you so much for this. Great job!
Thank you!! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a LOT!!
I LOVE my Embody chair! Was the best Herman Miller buy that I have done. I do want to get the gaming chair at some point, because I fell in love with the color of it!
Hey dude, not sure if someone might have mentioned this before, but to spread the arm rests, you have to lift it and then move it outwards. Don't force it :) Hope this helps!
Had no idea why this appeared in my recommended until you started playing the intro to Getlemen Don't, and then I suddenly understood. But hey, have a sub for that.
A man of culture, I see. :D appreciate the sub!!!
I love my Embody and yes, we need a headrest!
Absolutely right on the color. I've had an embody with blue fabric since 2014 and there are a few stains that are impossible to remove. When I get the chair serviced under warranty I plan to have them replace the fabric in black.
Thanks for the feedback. And that stinks but glad you have warranty! mind if I ask which fabric you have? It’ll help me field questions in the future!
@@Ahnestly Berry Blue Rhythm
@@Z4lUS stains from food/drinks or from just sitting (farts etc)
switched to this chair in december 2020 and will never use another office/gaming chair again. It completely got rid of my herniated disc (l5-s1) pain. Also awesome review dan!
Oh wow! And thank you for the kind words!!!
Wow, and I came here because i was looking between humanscale freedom and embody. I have herniated disk l5-s1 also and i cant have strong lumbar. Thanks for this comment! Now i know what to buy.
as another embody owner I would love to see a headrest for these chairs!
Yessss. 9-12 months they said
@@Ahnestly that's the only thing that has kept me from wanting to get the chair. Im looking at getting the logitech colab!
A tip to adjust the arm width is to lift the arms slightly before moving them. As long as us grab either the arm itself or stem. Not the holder.
Just received mine and I can comfirm this chair is by far the best I ever sit on
I just bought the black Logitech version of the Embody... should get here today! I was scared to watch your review since I already bought the chair, but I'm glad to hear you enjoy it!
Yes!! I love mine so much!
@@Ahnestly Awesome! I also just saw your review on the Neue Chair, which is the chair I'm coming from... I've had it for a few years, and it is really starting to hurt my back, even with the headrest... I finally decided enough is enough... I'm getting my dream chair (I've reached peak nerd... I have a dream chair....)
@@Ahnestly Yep, best chair I've ever owned!!!
Really love this review! I also love my Embody chair! But I have to say that the biggest gripe/flaw in the chair are the arm rests! This may not be an issue depending on your height (I'm 185cm).
I find that the arm rests sit far to forward and make it impossible too have the chair sit up against a desk whilst the arm rests are at the correct height to have your elbows/arms in an ergonomic resting position.
If you're someone who leans back a lot, the arm rests are pretty unusable.
I'd really love if the arm rests could've been able to move forward & back like the seat's cushion extender. Would even pay for a high quality aftermarket modification if they exist.
That makes sense! And yeah...HM didn't have sliding arm rests til the remastered Aerons!!!
@Ahnestly I was very tempted to go with the Aerons due to their arms! 😅🤦
And thankyou for the videos! I was completely unaware of the future Embody headrest mod! Am eagerly awaiting more sneak peaks and news on this! Will likely be an instant purchase for me! 🙌
Can only dream that they might also look into making arm rests mods. 🤔😅
I’m having the same issue with my Embody. I’ve only had a couple of days and love everything about it except those darn armrests! I like to scoot in close to my desk, and they make it so challenging to do that while still using them properly as arm rests. If you find a good solution, do share!
@@mike35424 Will share any solution i come across! Sadly I've yet to stumble across one yet!
@@mike35424 Adjustable desk.
loving my embody, took a few days for me to adjust to it but its amazing
Seriously. For proper sitting, scooch ALLLL the way back. Otherwise, do whatever you want!
@@Ahnestly I would feel a ton of pressure all along my lower back. Did research on reddit and people reported that you'll feel that for a few days.
After that initial adjustment period, I would feel this cooling sensation across my lower back whenever I'd stand. I think this chair legit fixed my back.
Yo!!!! best actual review of this chair!!!
Nice review. I learned more from this video than from the manual or the salesman at the store.
Damn very kind words!!! Thank you!!!
Lol the Mavix burn at the end. Love the tall perspective
Amazing review, really helpful. I'm going to try both the aeron and the Embody this weekend.
Nice!!! Hope it goes well! If they don’t offer the 15% discount or a lower price than online, then may want to purchase online during the sale!
@@Ahnestly just got my embody :) now its time to adjust and enjoy it.
Congrats!!!
Which one die you choose embody or aeron?
Seeing as this is the only Embody review you'll need to watch, and I've annoyed Ahnestly with enough of my comments today, I'm going to drop one more thing here specifically for anyone considering the Logitech Embody.
If you watch Logitech Embody specific reviews you may see mention that the foam padding in the seat is cut off and you can feel where the foam ends. Initially, the Logitech Embody was in fact designed this way and only covered the seat at it's minimum seat depth, and when extended at all the extended area was unpadded. I received my Logi Embody from Herman Miller about a week and a half ago now and realized I did not noticed this problem, and my foam is in fact covering the entire extended seat.
After collaborating with some people on the Herman Miller subreddit we found out that all Logitech Embodies produced after ~2/12/21 (Maybe up to a week earlier, but no more, we don't have an exact date pinned) have been revised and the copper infused foam will cover the entirety of the seat, even when fully extended, so this is no longer a con to take into consideration unless buying your Logitech Embody used.
Important to note: You won't see this issue mentioned in any UK based reviewers coverage of the chair, and this issue will not be worth considering when buying used in the UK, as due to different regulations there the Logitech Embody's UK variant has always had full seat foam coverage.
The thread is available here for anyone interested: www.reddit.com/r/hermanmiller/comments/m1k9ya/embody_gaming_refresh_in_north_america/?
You could never annoy me. This is seriously awesome. A wealth of knowledge!!!
@@Ahnestly ❤ I try lol
Great comment 👍🏻
Great info! So since there isn't any difference between the seat foam now, what is the difference between a logitech embody vs reg embody?
@@warrentran The Logitech Embody has a section of foam padding along the spine, which the standard does not. This bothers some people to no end (can make a little noise when rubbing up against the back, and on occasion some people have complained about it causing some discomfort.)
It's something that the majority of people are indifferent about, but some are irritated by. At this point the biggest reason to get a Logitech variant is just if you really like the aesthetics, to be completely honest.
I just received the Logitech Embody today. It's a night and day difference sitting in the embody over my old Secret Lab Titan XL. Definitely happy with the purchase.
Dude, I just purchased an Embody to replace my Titan as well. The seat was always too stiff in my opinion.
@@hannibalhector3719 How's the replacement? Looking at replacing my secret lab atm 🙃😂
@@hannibalhector3719 same issue I had. Seat was way too firm which made it uncomfortable.
@Le Justicier du Net not at all man.
Ahhhhh THANK YOU for that guitar part! Lovely tune by the way 😊
Hmm I actually went to a local HM dealer today in my city, and going in after seeing raving reviews on youtube about the Embody, surprisingly I didn't love it.
The back definitely didn't "flex" as much or as easily as it seemed in the video, and what I noticed is, when I turned side to side to "stretch" my back, I noticed the middle of the upper back was pushing up against my spine in a painful manner.
I can also feel the "system" of the back rest quite easily through the fabric. It's definitely not a terrible chair, but I think for me I found the Aeron so much more comfortable and supportive.
Haworth's fern office chair flexes with your back too. I found this chair brand while working at my old company and decided to buy my own after I had left.
I'm going to try and grab one of these!
@@Ahnestly fair warning the seat isn’t super cushiony!
I’ve been debating between the fern and embody. Have you had a chance to try out he embody?
@@klubhead7070 if you’re skinny or average in weight/height. I think the fern is perfect but if you’re on the bigger side I’d go with the embody. I actually own both chairs now and the embody is my more recent purchase. Idk what it is but the fern feels more like a task chair and I feel more productive in it whereas the embody I can definitely start to slouch and relax more in
@@EndeavorabIe I’m 5’8 155lbs but I have the shoulders of someone of 6’0 😂. I’m looking for a task and gaming chair. I definitely don’t want to slouch a lot
Great review! Have had my gaming Embody for a week or so now, and I absolutely love it.
Not sure if you'll see this Ahnestly, but a quick tip from someone who also likes to put their feet under their chair and "freak out" who was also annoyed by the clacking plastic. I found the best thing to reduce that clacking (for me) is when you want to have your feet under the chair for a while to fully pull the seat depth in to it's shortest setting. The clacking is just your calves repeatedly pushing up the seat pan and letting it drop since lifting pulls the adjustable section out of it's locked positions in the rail so it can be moved. (Which you can see at ~16:03)
If you can draw in your seat depth enough to not push up the edge with your calves, no more clacking plastic. :) Though it could depend on the person. I'm 5'11" with a lot of my height being long legs, so I normally sit with the seat at it's maximum length, so drawing it all the way in is a drastic difference.
And if not, at least odds are that clacking isn't going to hinder the durability of the chair, or at least I wouldn't imagine it could cause any serious issues since it's a piece intended to move that way.
Also, if you haven't tried fully loosening the lumbar in tandem with full recline, give it a go sometime, I find it helps to really lean as far back in the chair as possible since in addition to the recline the back will have more flex allowing it to bend back a little more.
Wow great tips! As for the plastic clacking, it happens less for me when it's extended and 100% of the time when it's fully withdrawn. Haha not a huge deal. I have a footrest so my feet are on that nowadays
@@Ahnestly Well if you ask me, all that matters is that you can find a position for the seat depth that reduces that sound whether it's all the way in or out. :P
Everybody's built different and sits differently, so it would make sense they'd have different sweet spots to avoid the issue, but I agree it's not a huge deal either way.
Still need to get a good footrest, I've been kicking up my feet on a suitcase for a while now because I've been too lazy to look into proper footrests. 😅
Hahaha mavix sent over their chair and a really simple but awesome footrest. Becoming my favorite bc I love to fidget. www.mavix.com/mavix-footrest.html
Great review man! I’m in love with my embody as well (All black).
Me too man. Me too. Need that headrest though!!!
Same...just got mine today
19:03 @ahnestly ive found that if you pull up on the arms as you adjust in or out its very smooth. it seems the arms are purposefully difficult to move from the "down" position
Correct! I didn't know how to operate them properly at the time!
I do want to add if you shop around you can get one in the 1K ballpark new. I got white frame, titanium base, dark carbon sync fabric and carpet or hardwood casters for $1,083
I just bought an open box Logitech Embody for $1,100 or so. Should arrive by the 8th of August. Can’t wait! Really liked the balance version I tried in the store.
It’s been a few days since August 8th. What has been your experience with the Embody?
@@vgman94 loving it this far. Took a little bit for my body to adjust and the chair to break in (still ongoing) but it’s been really not to switch up how I sit when I want and not be restricted to just specific sitting positions.
May I ask where you got your Logitech Embody from? I'm definitely looking to save some $, but I'm having a hard time figuring out who I can trust.
@@mike_majora I got it on eBay from one of the outlet centers run by an approve distributor. It was the Design Within Reach Outlet store for me personally.
@@Unavenged Gotcha, thanks for the info. Coincidentally, I'm actually heading over to the Design Within Reach store in NY today to test out the chair some more.
Your reviews are amazing bro. Well done.
Thank you!! Appreciate the kind words!
It's a lot of money so going to the Herman Miller showroom this week to try all their chairs out for myself.
Great idea!
I wish you luck (and patience) with the contractors and your office situation! It felt like ages while waiting for contractors to 1) get availability on the schedule to get me listed and 2) actually finish the project. I hope it goes well for you!
Thanks! I ended up going budget and paid for it...haha made an even bigger mess...sigh...but all is well now!
I'm seriously considering this chair. I'm split between a used refurbished model for 850, or brand new in the box from the AD for 1150, with the warranty and, importantly, returns.
I sat on one the other day and I felt my spine being hold and supported
Seriously the best review I've seen. I ordered the gaming one can't wait to join the club. Working from home is killing my back. #WelcomeHomeBooty
One of us...one of us...
I just received my gaming Embody about a week ago, you won't be disappointed. :P
The aches and pains in my back are massively reduced, and now when I go to habitually crack my back I don't hear a dozen little pops and cracks, maybe 1 or 2, and sometimes I just get nothing. Seems like it's really doing a good thing for my spine and I haven't been using the chair very long.
Fair warning though, my tailbone hurt quite a bit the first few days while I adjusted to the chair due to my bad posture, so that's kind of a literal pain in the ass, lmao
Just got it in! It's amazing!!! I was super surprised on how small the chair is but when I sat in it, it blew me away. My old chair could not adjust the arm rest and so doing that on this chair, it relaxed my already tensed shoulders. I tweaked it a bit to my liking and it just feels good. Rolling is super smooth, and stretching out arms above and reaching behind the chair feels so natural.
The Logitech version chair is awesome isn’t it? I don’t know how I’ve gone this long without knowing anything about Herman Miller. This style chair has been out since 2009 when I was 26 and now I’m 39. The only difference is that I work from home permanently now due to the pandemic and I needed home office equipment. Now I have a top of the line chair. I bought mine Logitech because I wanted to ensure that I was getting a newly built chair and I only paid $1100 for the chair on eBay shipped brand new.
@@boots_4_me Hey, I know this is an old comment, but I was looking into a logitech embody. Is the guy you bought from on ebay the one that ships from Canada for 1000 USD + 60 shipping? Any customs fees? Sticker on bottom? Came with the logitech clip for the back? I could get that one, or get one Saturday for 15% off MSRP. I don't know which way I want to go yet. I like that I have guaranteed warranty getting from a dealer, but it also costs 250+ more that way.
What a phenomenal video! Probably the best Herman Miller review on the internet.
Your fanboi is showing.
When’s the headrest coming, is it being developed? Thanks 😊
I already got a chair but I’m still watching ur content 👍
WELCOME HOME BOOTY .. you sold me a chair 😂 man thanks for the great review.. i thought u were the only one going in deep of the actual product and not what its said about it. Kudos Sir 👍
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Great video. Bought an Embody about a month ago and really enjoying it but a headrest would be amazing. Look forward to finding out more.
Seriously. Let's go atlassss
@@Ahnestly I'm buying one the day they are released! Or maybe waiting for your review but hopefully that will be pre prod!
Haha we'll see!
Very nice review, been searching for one touching on guitar player’s needs. Thanks!
There are definitely some chairs that are better where the arms lift away, but I thought it was cool how low they went so wanted to showcase that!
Love your video. Very informative and interesting. I want to buy Embody but really wanted a comfortable ergonomic chair with head rest. You mentioned about hear rest in the beginning of the video. Please share what we can do to get a matching head rest for Embody.
Wow you really weren’t kidding in the tittle. I’m absolutely sold on this chair
I just ordered an Embody because of this review. Seems like the perfect chair to me. Could only go with full black and Rythm Fabric because it was the only one without 4+ month waiting period. Really hope the fabric isnt too bad :P
Nice! If you don't like it, return and get the balance or sync!
If you get the sync fabric, it's really really really durable.
Hey Ahnestly, hopefully I can ask a quick question of you?
I had been doing research and recently landed on the Steelcase Amia. There's a dealer in my town and I was able to test-drive their chairs. They also have a hefty discount they're hooking me up with, so I was balling out on the options, like, leather seat, polished aluminum base, the works.
I started having a few second thoughts about it though thinking about this chair. I can't test drive one, and I'm reasonably certain I'll be sticking with the Amia just because I know my gf likes it, and I *know* this is totally subjective and you kind of can't answer this, but:
Do you think I would regret getting an Amia if I test-drove one of these later and really liked it? Do you use both IRL? Have either been your "daily driver"?
Thanks!
Hey! I LOVE the Amia (not sure if you’ve seen my video) but the embody is my daily driver and my #1 pick. One benefit of the embody is it can have a headrest (coming soon) but the Amia can never have a headrest. If you have time, why not try the embody and then return it if you find you don’t like it over the Amia? Returns are super easy and then you can pick up the Amia after! Hope this helps! If you decide to pick up and embody, please consider using my link - it helps the channel a LOT!
@@Ahnestly Thanks for the reply and the tips! I'll check out your Amia review as well!
@@Ahnestly Hi, I'm 5'6 132lbs. Does the Embody cause leg discomfort compared to the Amia?
Thanks for a very detailed review! I'm going for the Embody instead of the Aeron.
Nice!! Glad it helped!!
I can’t decide between the gaming Embody or the Gaming Aeron, what do you think?
So I think at this point, I am Embody all the way. Every time I sit on my Aeron though, I'm always like damn that feels good. The Embody just gives me more flexibility and I LOVE the way my butt feels when I sit in it. The Aeron feels better on my lower back though! The Gaming Aeron is different...it has a different back support than the classic Aerons.
@@Ahnestly does it? I thought they were just the same as the Posturefit SL, which I was told when I called Herman Miller
They told me the gaming ediiton’s difference to a fully loaded Aeron is just the color
awesome, i might get one of these chairs. question, what color/brand is your wall paint?
Nice! Please consider using my link if you decide to pick up! As for my paint, it is the city shadow by Benjamin Moore! I did a full desk breakdown video if you want to see what's going on in this room!
The clacking with the leg is real. Its honestly the best chair I've ever sat in though
Very good Review. i got an Embody but you need to take time to customize and learn how to use it. of course you will need a very good desk to have best confort. Next one present your office!..greetings from Colombia
I am still getting the office spaces up to speed...will take a bit...
The best review on the Embody chair online, fantastic stuff! I've been on the fence on this chair for such a long time, but now the only thing I need more clarification on are the fabrics, between Balance and the Sync. I live in Southeast Asia, so the tropical climate means that it's warm and humid all year round, so wondering if anyone has any advice/experience between these two fabric choices!
Also the headrest would be SICKKKKKKK
I recommend the Balance. The Sync is less breathable, but people have said it's softer.
Seriously
Yeah I've tried the balance and the medley in store, haven't had the chance to try the sync unfortunately (always out of stock).
Thanks for the recommendation, love the content, keep 'em coming!
Hey man solid honest review as always appreciate the work you put into these reviews. Can you maybe make a video about how to properly sit in an Aeron remastered chair? I know a lot of people who been slouching all their life (including me) and having a really hard time dialing into the Aeron. There's tons of posts on HM reddit where people complain about back pain, leg numbess, circulation problem etc. I've had my chair for over a month and still not really feeling comfortable in it. Thanks!
Dang that's rough. I don't think there's really a proper way to sit in it. One recommendation that might help is a foot rest - something to elevate.
Hey , that background tube light is sick! Can you please share the brand or model of the light?
Made a whole video on comparing tube lights! th-cam.com/video/AIF7Ixvhyf0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this review, not sure if I'm going for this or some other chair, but you have put it on my shortlist to check it out in a shop
And great tip about the colour, that reminded me of all the not black office chairs I've seen over the years. Almost all had dark spots.
Np! Check it out and you can always do free returns! If you decide to check it out, please consider using my link as it helps my channel a lot!
Did they ever make a headrest?
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That back knob isn't lumbar adjustment. I thought it was for the longest time. It's actually upper back tilt. You can see it in the video - the upper back is tensioning/untensioning significantly more than the lower back.
It's real purpose is to ensure that your head is balanced and upright through all the tilt positions - this is why the Embody was designed without a headrest; their designers believed that with your head perfectly balanced and upright, there'd be no reason for one - costs more, but also impedes natural movement.
I've had this chair for 12 years now... and I learnt that function after 11 years ago - the instances where I wanted a headrest went from say... 5% of the time... down to 2% of the time. A significant improvement!
Interesting!!
Love this chair! Can you tell me what the lowest top-of-seat height you can move this to is? I have quite a low desk and I have trouble finding chairs that will go down low enough for my desk. I usually end up taking off the wheels and replacing them with sliders to get the chair as low as possible! So knowing the height of the top of the seat cushion from the floor at the lowest setting would really help.
Lowest point is 17.5"! Hope this helps! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps my channel a LOT!!
After having the chair for a year and experiencing this myself it seems one of the most common failure points on the embody is the quite amazingly shitty internal design of the button mechanism.
the way the button on the inside works is the button is 1 whole piece that extends into the arm with 1 arm pointing forward towards the front of arm rest and 1 arm pointing towards the back of the armrest and hovering above the sliding tube part of the arm. (forwards being toward the outer half of the seat where your legs dangle off and backwards being towards the backrest of the chair)
inside the arm of the chair the front arm of the button extends out of and is held in place. This creates a lever action on the opposite arm of the button the rests above the sliding arm mechanism pulling the mechanism up and allowing the arm to move. It's fairly cheap and it's fairly effective the problem is that because it's made of plastic and not say.. metal so you strain the front arm of the button every time you push it and if there is any faults in it at all even microscopic ones repeated use can cause it to snap. Which it seems to... alarmingly often......
When any of you tried this chair, did the lumbar support you properly? I noticed heavy pressure on my tail as opposed to my back arch
I've been hearing some people talk about that...there's definitely some oomph in that tail area but that's not unlike the remastered Aeron line. If it hurts, recommend you loosen up the back lumbar a bit or sit a little leaned ba(ck (unclick the back by 1 and then tighten the tension so you're still closer to 90) rather than straight up!
@@Ahnestly So the sitting slightly tilted actually helped a ton when I went back and tried it again. What's your experience with sitting like this while using a keyboard? I'm worried if I have to sit back like that for it to be comfortable that it could be harder to do my work (programming). Right now I know i'm getting 1 of 3 chairs, aeron, embody gaming, or knoll generation. I really want the embody since it looks great, but I gotta be certain it will give me what I need for that price
I have mine barely tilted. I'm not a programmer so can't tell you, but I imagine it should be fine? If you lean forward to see your screen, that might mean you Gota get a bigger screen? Or a chair that can tilt forward like an Aeron? Not sure
Embody owner. The first few days can be rough as you learn how to adjust your body. The beauty of this chair is the adjustments are really good and you can fine tune accordingly. Once you figure that out you should be good to go. Very important: take the time to learn all the adjustments and how your body responds. That's when you realize how great the Embody is. Also the build is incredible, better be for the price LOL. One more thing... the chair may not be for everyone. I powered through the first few days and am happy I did. Totally worth it.
@@voodoodisco I went and bought both a maxed aeron and the gaming embody. My suspisions were correct. The padding on the normal embody is too thin so I could feel the back pieces. The thicker gaming one is more comfortable. It seems that this chair is also particular to height. The thorasic cradle on the chair is stationary and mine is just barely tall enough to use it. if I slouch just a little the thing digs into me again. Maybe i'll make a video explaining that because I haven't seen a single one on it
Does the embody offer solid lumbar support?
I see it wraps the whole back, just wanted to know if it feels supported at the lower back. Thank you.
Great video brother.
Thanks! Check out my 1 year with the embody video! That’ll explain a lot more about the lumbar!
When I pulled my Aeron out of the shipping box I was shocked at how small it was. You just expect them to be a lot bigger for some reason. It's heavy as hell though, lol. I just got my Aeron from HM a few weeks ago and I've been heavily debating sending it back to try the Embody. Thanks for this video.
Lol the embody looks tiny because it's got a hugeee bottom part, but a itty bitty back rest. And yeah, these chairs are not light and deceptively so bc you think with all the mesh, that's like all the weight removed! Appreciate the kind words!!!
@felisha aeron comes in three sizes, maybe you got a size A?
Personally I find Embody > Aeron by a long shot.
@@PodofGold I debated for about a year and didn't buy one until I knew everything there is to know. It's definitely a B, but thanks! I ended up taking a drive to test one out and the Embody just isn't for me.
@@mischievousamoeba I hear ya! First time I sat in an Embody I said "nope!" And went to a remastered Aeron. Finally gave in after learning more about Embody, gave it a week, and now I refuse to sit in anything else. Took me a week of getting used to it, tweaking the adjustments, etc.
I am currently also considering buying the Embody, but am still unsure since I'm relatively tall (6'3) and like you stated the chair has no headrest.
Was also thinking about buying the Aeron just because of the 3rd party headrest but if the Embody really also gets one I might just go ahead and buy that one.
@Le Justicier du Net I bought the Embody x Logitech and after some time you forget that it has no headrest (you don't actually need it).
The Embody does seem like a great chair...but after WFH on my couch and sitting in a C-shape for weeks on end, I wanted a chair that would help my posture. I don't really sit cross legged that much in chairs anyways, so I went with a fully-loaded remastered Aeron. Although I still really want to try an Embody. I feel like there are things I would appreciate about both, but ultimately I want to have better posture so I think the Aeron was the right choice for me.
Great video!
Hey I LOVE my Aeron. Nothing like it even though I’ve sat in dozens of chairs!’
Imma go with the Aeron for the same reason. Embody looks like it would be a comfier gaming chair but I'm more interested in proper posture, forward tilt, and the lumbar options that the Aeron has. Now I have to hunt for deals as the new price is hard to swallow (even if my work is covering the majority of it).
Please keep reviewing. Great job done mate!
Shout out for the snippet of Gabe Bondoc's, "Gentlemen Don't". Will be buying this chair now
Would you prefer the regular version over the Logitech version? It seems like the Logitech version is louder cus of the foam but the foam might be softer?
I received all the gaming versions from Herman miller, so I’ll be reviewing them soon
6 years in owning this and would absolutely buy a headrest if it was done properly.
Thank you I’m going to buy one if they are on sale Black Friday
Hey frank, see my links! It’s on sale right now for 15% off. HM usually doesn’t go any lower! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links!
I picked one up today from DWR for 900. They said it was pretty much new since it was still wrapped with no signs of any usage. However, told me there's no warranty. Does HM require any form of purchasing documentation When trying to utilize their warranty?
The tag is all they require!
@@Ahnestly thought so.. it was just made too.
Best, most thorough review. Thanks! Looking forward to the Atlas headrest.
Hi, congratulations on your wonderful review, I'm writing to you from Italy, in my country the Embody for gaming is now 15% off, is it just as good? do you recommend it? Thank you!
I subscribed the moment I head these 2 words: "Embody" and "Headrest". Been shopping around but have been on the fence with this chair due to lack of headrest.
Woot woot!!! Headrest is coming in 8-11 months!
Great review.
Thank you.
Are there any news about the head test ?
Thank you
Awesome video. Any chance we’ll get a video comparing the aeron to the embody?
Better yet - you’ll get a video comparing the aeron classic vs aeron remastered vs embody. My set flooded and I have a lot of stuff I need to review, so it might take a bit though....sorry!
@@Ahnestly sorry to hear that! Hope nothing got to messed up. And looking forward to that video :D
You should review the Haworth Fern chair!
I jsut got my embody gaming chair and want to know about the headrest.
Unfortunately no updates! Covid has delayed things quite a bit!!
Hi from Down Under. I've just started using my new Embody today following your fantastic TH-cam reviews. However, if the chair is not as good as you say then I'll be knocking on your door to give you a piece of my mind! The only thing I was disappointed about was the fact that it doesn't have a forward tilt as I use my keyboard all of the time, unlike you gamers who just slouch around all day. It took me a few hours before I discovered that the chair can be used in forward tilt mode - something that is probably well-known to experts such as yourself.
I am very happy with the chair and find the seat more comfortable than my Steelcase Leap, although I prefer the lumbar support of the Leap better for me. I was delighted with myself when I discovered that the Embody can be used in the forward tilt mode by reversing the tilting process. With one or two feet on an angled foot rest, probably there is more control with just the one foot for better balance, I sit up against the desk and loosen the recline tension so that it is comfortable to recline into the upright position - the reverse of its intention. Also I lock the tilt limiter at the first setting so as not to catapult backwards.
Later on I will order a head rest from Atlas which has a current lead time of 3 months. I haven't found your review of the production model but will keep searching. Keep up the good work. Alan.
First of all, let me stop you. Since you were going to dish out the money to fly out all the way over here, why not buy me a ticket instead and I'll fly over to you ;-D hahaha. The Embody is still my favorite chair overall. I am slightly confused by how you're sitting in forward tilt mode! Would love to see a video or even a Paint sketch of how you're sitting! (are you just sitting on the front lip of the chair, which flexes and bends forward slightly?). As for the headrest, I managed to bungle up the one they sent to me so waiting on another! Fingers crossed it comes in this week!
"im a terrible guitar player" then proceeds to play some sweet tunes. lol this channel is underrated!
Thanks man!! I appreciate that! This is literally the only thing I can play...
Seriously he crushed that. You clearly have years of experience!
Waiting for mine, 1350 euros, this helped me pick the Embody over the Aeron C, and I am so nervous about the decision
Why? Free returns! :-)
@@Ahnestly Yes but no dealers in Ireland, buying from Germany
Would you recommend this over the gaming logitech embody one?
I have a White Frame/Nightfall (Blue) Sync fabric (would love to be able to get this exact frame/fabric combo).
I really wanted to like this chair.
Sadly this one doesn't work for me, the lowest supporting pixels are stiff and don't move at all, poking inside my lower back.
Tilting the back so it's less pronounced makes my shoulders and neck hurt.
The extended part of the seat is also not pixelated and you can feel the difference between the extended and non-extended part.
This is less pronounced if you wear something like Jeans.
Either way HM has quite the customer service, so I'm having mine returned, I suggest trying all of these for yourself if you get the same kind of service where you live.
@Ahnestly I would love to see a review of the steelcase gesture on your channel, you do bring up a lot of great points.
It's in the cooker, but lots of other chairs to review first!
My last job had steel case gestures... They're meh.
Excellent videos! Have you tried the Sync material? I am about to order this chair and trying to decide between Sync or Balance fabric.
Hey! Quick question - where are you getting the balance material from??? Didn’t see it anymore and I’m making a 1 year later video! As for your question, the gaming embody has the sync material (granted they added a texture) and it’s muchhh more cushy but you do lose breathability!
@@Ahnestly Hi. There's a place near me in the EU offering a decent price for new in a sealed box (authorised dealer) and they have Balance and Sync versions. It sounds like Sync might be more comfortable, or is Balance just as comfortable in reality? I cannot try before I buy unfortunately, although I have sat in one of these chairs and liked it (but cannot recall what material it had).
If you can wait til Friday, you’ll hear my experience with both! If it’s mfr date is after February, 2021, then the balance will have received an extra cushion layer on the seat. Mine unfortunately was made in December 2020 so doesn’t have the extra padding. I loved my balance until I tried the sync and was like damnit the extra padding is nice.
@@Ahnestly I am tempted by the Sync for that reason. Just publish the video now 😂
@@Ahnestly I'm ready!! 😂😂😂 I'm leaning toward Sync at the moment as I think perhaps it will be more comfortable and easier to keep clean... Looking forward to your video!
@Ahnestly - which chair do you prefer the regular embody or the logitech version and why? Thanks.
Regular for me man. Gaming looks sick but I love the padding and balance fabric on my regular
@@Ahnestly Thanks. Can you tell me if the Embody is a good chair if I am looking for good lumbar support?
Yeah the lumbar support is solid. Generally feels better for taller folks. Just buy one and if you don't like it, return it. Super easy to do. If you do decide to pick one up, please consider using my links as it really helps this channel!! Thank you in advance!