The Ultimate Herman Miller Gaming Chair Buying Guide (Gaming Aeron vs Gaming Embody vs Gaming Sayl)
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This is the ultimate herman miller gaming chair buying guide. I break down ALL 3 of the Herman Miller Gaming chairs - the Herman Miller Aeron, the Herman Miller Gaming Embody, and the Herman Miller Gaming Sayl. I take a deep dive into each chair to help you decide which Herman Miller gaming chair would be best for you? Huge shout out to Herman Miller for sending these chairs over!! Let's get Ahnest!
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - The Intro
0:18 - Hitting a Milestone
0:55 - Video Breakdown
1:18 - Who is the Sayl For?
2:11 - Freedom of Seating (Sayl)
2:59 - Lumbar (Sayl)
5:50 - Sizing + Lean Back (Sayl)
8:07 - Comfort (Sayl)
9:44 - Breathability (Sayl)
9:58 - The Arms (Sayl)
10:45 - Noise (Sayl)
11:07 - Gaming vs Non-Gaming (Sayl)
11:56 - Donut Break
12:06 - Who is the Aeron For?
12:50 - Freedom of Seating (Aeron)
13:57 - Lumbar (Aeron)
16:43 - Sizing + Lean Back (Aeron)
20:27 - Comfort (Aeron)
21:28 - Breathability (Aeron)
22:11 - The Arms (Aeron)
23:06 - Noise (Aeron)
23:27 - Gaming vs Non-Gaming (Aeron)
24:35 - Who is the Embody For?
25:49 - Freedom of Seating (Embody)
27:00 - Lumbar (Embody)
28:13 - Sizing + Lean Back (Embody)
30:26 - Comfort (Embody)
31:04 - Breathability (Embody)
31:31 - Gaming vs Non-Gaming (Embody)
33:37 - Noise (Embody)
34:15 - The Arms (Embody)
35:08 - Noise Revisited (Embody)
35:28 - Which Is My #1 Pick?
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Hey man, i dont wana leave a bad review and be a hater, but honestly the whole video just came across like a total add, and felt like you were trying to sell these so hard.
@@blue9906 the aeron was the only chair that helped with my back pain and once I tried the embody, it became my favorite chair of all time. The Sayl is also a great chair imho and I’ve reviewed a lot of chairs. I have plenty more “objective reviews” if that’s what you’re looking for. This video is clearly titled a buying guide, not “should you buy one”!
People who haven’t experienced lumbar pain find it hard to understand the relief that the embody provides.
Can you start adding what the weight limits of these chairs are?
embody is the best chair ever. aeron is for people who cant have an embody in an office scenario for whatever reason@@mgrth
I bought the embody gaming and returned it after 30 days. I just couldn't adapt to it, felt too hard in my lower back and didn't feel 100% comfortable. When I tried the aeron afterwards, I INSTANTLY felt a big difference, much more confortable, my back fits perfectly and it feels really soft.
I had a hard time accepting that I didn't like the embody but now I feel so good that I returned it. Love my Aeron.
I apologize in advance if this sounds like I'm speaking down to you (I am not, I promise!)....but I am SO PROUD of you!! Making an objective decision and not letting hype/sensationalism dictate what you buy/own! That's really awesome and I'm so happy you found your perfect chair!
Spoiler for his favorite chair: He is sitting in it for 95% of the video.
LOL I am not biased in any wa....I love the Embody.
@@Ahnestly😂
You do an EXCELLENT job reviewing. I feel like most reviews follow a basic pattern but somehow yours feels more genuine and real. Great job!
Hey thank you so much!! Really appreciate it!
Glad you are getting official recognition and potentially sponsors from herman miller themselves! You deserve the best bro, always a pleasure watching your videos.
Grats man! I was one of the people who saw the Used Aeron vid and insta subbed because of the level of insight that you offered for your chair reviews. Was even able to snag a fully loaded OG Aeron for about half of what the used market around me was going for. Great to see Herman Miller recognizing you and what you offer with your channel.
You earned my subscription man!!! Your explanation’s really clear and answer a lot of questions.
Thank you!!!
Love the video. I've had the standard Embody for almost a year now. You mentioned the new scrim foam being implemented in the standard Embody in "May 2021" I just wanted to point out that it was added in February. My Embody was actually one of the very first to get the scrim added (2/7/21) so I lucked out. Also thanks for that tip of sliding down the back of the chair to get in that proper position. Some days my chair feels perfect and others it feels off and I think it may be due to that, so far that tip has helped. Keep it up, can't wait for the Atlast headrest!
You are right! My chair came in December...so was SO sad to hear about this layer...
I bought both the Aeron and embody, tried the Aeron for a week and the Embody for a few days (had the Aeron a week before the Embody). I agree with pretty much everything mentioned in this video. I personally do not find the lumbar support on the Embody comfortable. It felt like there was not enough support and of course this is not adjustable. When I got my Aeron I initially had the lumbar support set to the minimum as setting it any firmer than minimum felt uncomfortable. However, with time I increased the support a small amount and it feels great. I also feel like the backrest of the Embody makes your shoulders feel as if they are being curved inwards a little bit but I have quite wide shoulders so this may be why. Even if I adjusted the backrest further backwards, it made me feel like I was sitting in a "lazy, slightly slouchy" position which personally didn't feel the best compared to the sitting position in the Aeron. I tried so many adjustments with the Embody because I really wanted to like it, but I never felt comfortable in the Embody so I returned it. The Aeron felt significantly better in every aspect to me.
The Embody also feels very light and cheap, where as the Aeron feels very sturdy in every aspect. The Embody makes some noise when rocking (not a great deal but enough to be annoying for me) and it appears to come from somewhere around the base of the seat. I didnt hear any noise coming from the backrest as it really doesn't flex that much at all during use (not that it is not flexible - it is, but your movements don't cause it to flex a great deal). Also, the mechanism to lean back in the Aeron feels so natural and nice, whereas it feels slightly odd in the Embody. It's hard to describe but it just didn't feel quite right and its not as comfortable as the Aeron. Don't get me wrong, it is still good, just not as good as the Aeron. This could again be due to the lack of lumbar support making me feel this way about the Embody because you notice it more when leaning back. I do not get this "creaking" when rocking in the chair as mentioned in this video, mine is completely silent. Maybe this is due to the amount of tension you have on the lean back function? You can also lean back and stretch your upper back and arms backwards and outwards in the Aeron with a great deal of freedom which feels great, but the backrest height on the Embody doesn't allow you to get such a stretch. The Embody made me feel like it was really trying to keep me in the confined area of the backrest when trying to lean back and stretch - I don't know why but I do this a lot in my chair so I noticed this difference. I think HM are right in saying there is no need for a headrest, even when leaning back I experience no discomfort in the Aeron.
With the Aeron I did sometimes get pain on the rear side of my legs (hamstring area). I don't really know why that is, there are some days that I do get this pain and some days where I never get it. Recently I have not experienced that at all so maybe I was still getting use to the chair and sitting in a better posture.The Embody does feel more comfortable to the rear side of your legs, but I do not recall getting such a pain with that chair.
I may have these opinions because my body became more use to the Aeron and it's characterisitcs as I had been using it for a week before I got the Embody. Also, I have a feeling that since the Aeron makes you sit in a position with good posture, you feel uncomfortable sitting in a chair which allows you to have a more laid back posture (the Embody in this case). Your sitting posture definitely feels different in each of these chairs.
Most people don't get to try both chairs, and if they do, it is usally at a HM shop. The time you spend trying one of these chairs at a HM shop is not long enough for your body to really understand which one it likes more. I initially liked the Embody when i first tried it as it felt more comfortable, but your opinion can change with time. To anyone trying to decide on one of these chairs, I'd recommend the Aeron as I feel it is significantly better than the Embody. I was able to get the Aeron for a little cheaper than the Embody too which was a bonus. If you are going for an Aeron, get the gaming version from HM gaming as it comes with nearly all options and it is significantly cheaper than choosing the Aeron on the HM website and adding the options yourself. The deep black tone you get with the gaming version looks really really clean and nice. There is no difference with the gaming version apart from the colour and you do not get leather arm rests (the only option the gaming version lacks) but the standard ones are really damn good. I can't comment on the leather armrests as I have not tried them.
Just to comment my experience as I found it useful reading other people's experiences in comments of videos before I bought my chairs. From my journey of reading peoples comments on videos, I find that there are a lot of people who comment that "x" chair is the best but they have not tried the other chairs or have only tried them for a very short period at a HM shop. They got one chair, and they like it, so they think that is the best. But I am giving my opinion after trying both chairs for more time than most people would be able to and think this might be useful to a potential buyer.
great feedback on both chairs, I personally have an Aeron (non-gaming but fully loaded) and agree with p much everything you said.
"With the Aeron I did sometimes get pain on the rear side of my legs (hamstring area). I don't really know why that is, there are some days that I do get this pain and some days where I never get it."
I 100% agree with you the aeron fely much more comfortable in every aspect. Like you said when i sat in the embody my shoulders felt rounded forward due to the high back curvature.
great review, how tall are you?
@@Pistolita221 I'm 5'7.
After watching a bunch of your videos I'm so glad I found this channel. Great job
Heyyy thank you so much for the kind words and support!!
I was ready to purchase a Razr gaming chair over Thanksgiving when I saw one of your videos. At first I was shocked by the price of entry for one of the Herman Miller chairs but realized the benefits after watching some more of your videos. Needless to say it went from want to need right now, lol. The next time Herman Miller puts a sale I'll definitely purchase it through your affiliated link. Thanks for educating the masses bro. Our back and behind thank you too!
I was in a similar boat for a long time... I always saw the price and laughed. "Who is spending that much on a chair?" right? Its one of those things that once you experience it for a while, and go sit on a cheaper chair (even those 400$ gaming chairs) you *immediately* will be questioning why doesnt everyone get a herman miller lol.
Ahn, finally. Your comparison review is golden. I now know which one i need to get (non-gaming Embody). Thanks for your efforts in creating this video. Happy new year to you.
Woot woot! Glad I could help! If you do decide to buy, please consider using my links as it helps this channel a LOT! Happy New Years!!
Amazing the growth on your channel over the past few years. Content is coming out great, keep it up!! Thinking to buy the Aeron!
Thanks for the kind words!! Appreciate it! You started a year ago and you're already at 16k!!! If you do decide to pick up the Aeron, let me know how you like it! And please consider using my link - helps the channel a lot!!
Great video! Picked up an aeron because of your videos and am saving up to get an atlas head rest to complete the chair, as I'm kind of tall and need the extra support. Your content just keeps getting better and better! Can't wait to see more!
Thank you for this !!! Love the all-black sayl design and this video sold me !
Woot woot! If you pick up online, please consider using my link! Helps this channel a LOT!
Wished you uploaded this video before the November discount! bought the sayl but with a light-coloured cushion 😅but I am really happy about buying it and videos like yours helped me in my decisions, so thank you!
This review was excellent and full of useful information, thank you.
I'm glad you liked it!! I still remember recording this video...one of my longest shoots! I'm glad it was worth it!!!
Excellent review! I'm glad I've found your channel, I'm going to a dealer to try out HM chairs in a couple days and your videos have made me feel far more prepared for what to look for. I'm 6' 2" so I feel like a 3rd party headrest will be a must if I go for a Embody or Aeron
Niceee!!
I'm so glad I found your video! :) Out of all the videos I've watched this was definitely the kind of informative video I was looking for. I was debating between the Aeron/Aeron Gaming, and Embody/Embody Gaming, and ended up solidifying my decision to get the Embody Gaming after watching your video ^^~
Nice! if you decide to buy online, please consider using my link as it helps this channel a lot! I really hope you enjoy!!
the lean forward feature is so essential for gaming and then reaching forward to adjust the goxlr, or hit the stream deck, grab a drink, basically anything like that. it's also less jolting when you scoot around to get comfortable. nice that the chair leans forward with you. i can't even go back to a chair that doesn't have this feature.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! GREAT VIDEO, GREAT PRODUCT AND A GREAT EDUCATION!!!! I LOVE ALL HERMAN MILLER PRODUCTS!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
Lol thank you!
Thanks for the video, I just used your link under the video to buy my embody!
I always wanted an Embody, but that Sayl looks VERY interesting. I need to find a place to try them both out.
You should def go try before buying. I bought my Embody 9 months ago, I was pretty sure I wanted to get a Mirra but after trying them all (they made me literally try every single chair in the showroom), I bought it directly. :)
Check if your area has a herman miller showroom. You probably won't be able to pick up your chair right on site but you should be able to test and see them in person
great video thanks. really wish you the best of success. loving ur content.
I own a Sayl. I love it because it helps me sit correctly when doing work but it also allows me to sit on my leg or to rest my leg on a table.
I also have this chair at my office. I hate the fully adj. arms. I went with basic arms for home use and I'm happy with my purchase.
6:50 that should be an encouragement to get up and do some stretches away from the chair hah
I've owned both the non-gaming Embody and Aeron's. I'm a huge believer in buying quality office chairs given the quality of life for the time spent in them by professionals especially now with WFH. I totally agree on the majority of your points, the defining choice with me between the two was while I found the Embody more ergonomic and better long term value (seat cushion lasted longer). I ultimately went with the Aeron since the Embody seat would get too warm, and in a home with poor or no air conditioning the Aeron was the clear winner for staying cool with good comfort. I've had my Herman Millers easily last 7-10 years no problem vs cheap big box office chairs friends or family would buy that fall apart after 6-12 months that cost $100-300.
Thanks for the great review, this is a a great value for folks who are spending this much money on a premium chair for the first time.
Hey! Thank you SO much for the thanks!!! I'm glad this video helped!!
7-10 years? Don't Herman Miller's come with a 12 year parts and labor warranty?
Which is more confortable (butt wise and leg wise) embody, sail or aeron? I can’t try them but it is said that the mesh on the aeron is hard. I need to seat 7hours a day so confort matters.
@@nn-qb1bp Aeron has always been my favorite for the above reasons, but the mesh seat pan only breaks down slightly to where it's just a few millimeters of bounce/give that just ends of flexing down as a hard seat surface. Check out their new updated "gaming" Embody Gaming for ultimate comfort with good cushion and supposedly they've improved cooling slightly which was my main complaint that those didn't breath vs the Aeron. They have a 20% off sale going right now during Presidents Day too which is kinda rare short of Black Friday.
Hey @sshepherd (or anyone for that matter I guess) what chair would you recommend for someone close to the 7’ height? I’d get that atlas headrest too if that matters.
I need the same thing with Steelcase chairs. Thank you, Ahnestly.
Thanks for this great overview! Would love to see a comparison of the mid-century leather models!
Quality quality reviews. Deserves more views!
Thank you for the kind words!!
Thank you for reviewing! This was extremely useful :)
Hey glad I could help!!
I've gone through a considerable number of videos, probably around 30 or more, as I delve into the market for a HM chair. Your sincerity and captivating presentation style truly stood out to me. As a result, I couldn't resist hitting that like button and subscribing to your channel!
Thank you!! Appreciate the kind words! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a lot!!!
@@Ahnestly thanks for the heads-up, mate! I'm hangin' out over here in Tokyo, Japan, though, so not sure if your links are gonna work for me?
Dang you just flex on me saying you’re in Japan?? Hahaha sounds cool and yeah you’re right…it won’t work :(
@@Ahnestly Haha, no flex intended, mate! Just living that sushi and ramen life over here. 😅 Bummer about the links, though. Keep on rocking your channel, I'll keep tuning in! 🎌✌🏾
can not wait for the embody headrest!
What a great comprehensive face to face!
I'm 6 feet tall and I just got my Sayl 3 days go (with the height extension). Its been really comfortable so far, I haven't had any problems with the back rest, no neck pain after hours of gaming. Would definitely recommend
Nice! This is good to know!
how long are your gaming sessions? as a 6'2" dude, that "not for short people" note really threw me off
@@unzkipriime4283 I’d say 6+ hours
@@unzkipriime4283 I thought he said it was suitable for short people
Wish I had the money for one of these. Great video dude thank you man.
Bought an aeron with your method. I love seeing it everywhere
Nice!!
This channel is so underrated
Great video !
Heyyy thank you so much for the kind words!!
This is the best review of all time thanks
You’re very welcome! Thanks for the kind words!!!
cant wait for the embody headrest!
Props to you including the factoid about the scrim foam on the newer models of the Embody. I don't think I've seen a single other reviewer mention that, and I only found myself through a lot of research.
Glad it helped! I have a lot of eyes and ears from followers helping with this stuff!
Just got my Embody Logitech a couple of weeks ago. I've been working in offices for the better part of 35 years now and it's the most comfortable chair I've ever used. When the Atlas headrest finally comes out, I can see myself using it as an occasional lounge chair to watch TV on. It's that comfortable. Also, and this is a question of personal taste, it makes me feel like a starship captain every time I sit on it....
They may have been caught deleting reviews. Buyer beware.
Bro I have the same chair and have the odyssey g9. DEFINITELY starship captain lol
@@vincentvillanueva6081 Lucky you 👍 I only have a G5
How does the breathability work for you? I do long hours for home office and I want a chair that doesn't warm up and get your ars all sweety.
@@danielekirylo I guess it would depend quite a bit on what ambient temperature you prefer and your own propensity to heat up. To give you my personal experience, I like to work (and game) in about 19-20 Celsius, wearing a footer and sweatpants. I'm about 5'9'', 190lbs. I often sit for a solid three hours at a time (I know, I know...) and have never experienced either excessive heating anywhere, nor any discomfort in terms of any pressure points. With the right adjustments (which took me a couple of weeks to truly tweak) though, you'll forget you're even sitting down. I paid full price and extra transport to bring it to my country (there's nowhere to buy it here) and don't regret a penny of it.
Awesome comparison thanks for your effort
I was looking for new chair for over year now and I tried Aeon and didn't really like it (prefer cushioned seats without sharp/hard edges). Its pretty hard to get other models here, but I would not like shape of Sayl back rest either. Embody not yet available here yet with ETA early next year.
In the end I went with Accis Pro from Profim which I had chance to test last week and it was 1st chair that felt fully comfortable. On top of all usual stuff it offers pretty unique feature that allows chair seat and back to lean left and right with whole body (it can be disabled). Overall build looks better than its price suggest, It have shorter warranty, but chairs I used before anyway either got issues within 1st 1-2 years or not at all and for Herman Miller prices could buy same chair 2-3 times if needed.
a lot of people criticize the Aeron for not being able to sit in it however you want, but after sitting in it for a month or two, I think that's the wrong way to approach it.
it passively improves your posture because it encourages a more ergonomic sitting position. and because of this, you won't feel the need to move around as much. your body doesn't fatigue as quickly when sitting properly. I very rarely feel the need to fold my legs at all - and if I do feel the need, it's just one leg, not both.
if you don't even feel the need to change positions a lot in the first place, then changing positions a lot becomes less of a concern. that's the magic of the Aeron in my opinion. I absolutely love mine.
that being said, try these chairs for yourself if you can before committing. and thank you Ahnestly for another good video.
I've tried all 3 (Non-gaming versions) and even bought and returned the Aeron at first. Here are notes which I hope they help people in deciding with the least amount of knowledge and mainly based on back feel as all the bells and whistles of features are self-explanatory.
I'm 5'6 and half and 175 lbs at this time with slight lower back issue. Below is my feedback (bulletins are not an order of which is better but in order of what made sense for me to present)
1. Sayl: out of the 3 it has the most huggy feeling to your lower back if you like that. Even without additional back support. The 2 main issues I had with the chair are: seat bucket is too small for casual seating even at my height if you want to occasionally slouch. And the back tension has weird tendency to push back onto your back even when it's so light. You can lean back so easily but for some reason I always felt the chair was pushing back.
2. Aeron: this chair is designed for you to set up right. No slouching or anything else. If that's your thing then get it. The side profile of the backrest has an angel to it horizontally along the mid back where you can see the backrest bending slightly. This invisible horizontal line WILL create a pressure line across your mid back if you sit in anyway other than proper. Also don't trust Herman's recommendations for size and height. For my biometrics I found the size B too small.
3. Embody (Which what I ended up loving) out of the 3 it has the backrest that will suit and feel comfortable for most people. It feels great sitting proper or slouching. Seat bucket is large for many seating positions.
Nonetheless, the chair is not perfect. As per Ahnestly's reviews, it has too much plastic so some noise is to be expected. Some people may find the backrest needing more cushion, even with the Sync fabric option (thicknest one they offer). I'd say if that's the case, make your own external padding. You don't need much, couple of yards of fabric, handheld sawing machine (or by hand if you can) and some cheap think mattress topped for $10 or any foam you like (say maybe with cooling gel). Profile the foam, cut, sandwich it between layers of fabric, sew along the profit, final cut and trim to extra fabric. And it will make the backrest much better for those who needs cushion.
Best chair for doing anything while sitting is the regular Aeron. I can work on it 8 hours straight with a 30 minute break 5 days a week, i can binge netflix or game on it for hours without problems. I'm 5'7", i've had the chair for a decade now with nothing broken on it.
@@sepg5084 Matter of opinion I guess because I couldn't sit in the Aeron for 30 minutes before it bothered me.
I'm 5'6 as well my question is for the embody do you ever feel neck pain after 6-8+ hours of prolonged use since no headrest and since it can't go all the way back like a secretlab titan chair. Currently on between the Embody Logitech and the secretlab Titan fabric version.
5’6 and 175 with lower back issues? Sounds like you need to lose weight and that’ll help your lower back
@@matthew7972 It was an injury... I probably look better than you do (shape wise) that weight isn't all in the guts.
I like the fact that you also convert to centimeters 😄
You literally answered a lot of questions I had about those 3 specific Herman Miller chairs. Gonna check out the solo review of the Embody. I hope there will be a price drop in my region sometime. Currently it cost 1.595,00 € where I live.
Yeah it's about that price here in the USA as well
Can you please also make a video/ a review about the Herman Miller Mirra 2. I would really appreciate that. That would be amazing. Thanks for all the videos, i love them 😊
Already own an Embody and Sayl but I love watching these videos anyway.
same I got an embody, love it to bits
which one do you like more? which one do you find more comfortable
ahnestly you rock your vids are complete you don't bias towards your personal choices... im in between the remarstered aeron or the embody gaming id need the head rests....
dang thanks for the kind words!!! If it helps at all, let me be biased for a minute...EMBODY ALL THE WAY BABY. ALL DAY EVERYDAY. HANDS DOWN. EMBODYYYYYY
*ahem* but in all seriousness, I love the Aeron. It's my first chair love. But the Embody did away with my back issues while allowing me to feel more comfortable and sit however I want in it!
Haha hope this helps! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the video a LOT!
I am so happy that you finally were able to review the Sayl. I have been anxiously awaiting for you to post this video, and alas, I missed it 2 weeks ago. Oh well, I am still very happy to watch it. I think it is probably the chair for me. It provides a good amount of features for me as well as being nice on the cost.
Nice nice!! If you do decied to pick it up, please consider using my links as it really helps! Glad I could help with your decision making!
Best comparison video. Thanks!
You’re welcome!!!
great review! thanks
Had the aeron and the embody each one for a week (none gaming version): Aeron feels more solid, the mesh is comfortable but I hated that it force you to sit in one specific way. Cant cross legs, cant sit how i want.The aeron its possibly the best to work from home.
The embody feels great to me, at first it was really weird but once you get used to its just perfect. Love the freedom you get. Best for work AND enterteinment
No matter what you choose, make sure to try it first.
"at first it was really weird but once you get used to its just perfect" exactly how I feel about mine. so damn good!
Got the Embody. Love it so far. Just had to fine tune the settings
Yeah some tweaking required!
Dan, you can add the lumbar support after the fact. I have the Gaming Sayl in Neon Green and I was told that I could add the lumbar support at any time via customer service. Just something to consider. Good video!
Hey there, I love all your video guides, and this one convinced me to grab a Sayl at some point in the near future. :) I just wanted to double-check though, which were the other two chairs that have forward-tilting other than the Sayl and the Aeron? I should probably take a look at those other two before making the purchase, just in case.
Forward-tilt is really attractive to me because of occasional hip pain
Amazing video!
Really looking forward to the embody headrest it’s my only wish with the chair
the tilt forward is also good for playing tactical shooter
Love the video. You got a new sub
Herman Miller has been selling a new version of the base fixed lumbar on it's chairs. It's called ZSS fixed posturefit I believe. I tried it on a chair that was too big for me and it was useless. Would love to hear what you think about it.
this was great, thank u
I currently have aeron 2 in my office and sayl at home.
SAYL all the way.
I can see when you finished siting review on Aeron and Sayl you get back to Embody immediately, body languages dont lie. Love your videos, and brought an Aeron based on your review.
Fantastic Review tho, really living up tp your channel name.
I have the embody gaming chair and bought a really solid after market headrest to complete the design. I can't wait for the factory headrest and hope I can add it after the fact.
Thank you so much for this review. It was long, but you went into such great detail for each of the chairs. I don't game, but I work from home, and truly appreciated this. I already have the Sayl non-gaming version. If you have a contact at Atlas, could you push them to create a headrest for the Sayl as well? I've seen a couple of hacks out there that have 3-D printer plans for a headrest, but I don't have a 3D printer, nor do I know anyone that does. I'd also prefer to just pay for one! :-) Keep up the great work! I appreciate your Ahnest opinions! :-)
Had an Aeron for a dozen years before passing it along to my brother... I never got super comfortable in it. The Sayl on the other hand is amazing, and I have it in Lime green/black gaming version, sooooo nice for 10 hours at the computer per day. If you work full time from home, you spend more time at your desk than in your bed, it's *well worth* spending ~$1000 to be comfortable and properly supported.
I HAD ALL 3 AND SAYL IS MY FAVOURITE
@奶粉 I’m only 5’7” so didn’t have the tall guy issues some of the 6 footers see.
I had the Embody. I didn't like the lumbar support (lack of adjustability) also the back of my legs went numb after long sessions. Returned for the Sayl. I'm very very happy with the Sayl chair. I will be keeping it.
Nice!
Yeah it seems like the mechanism for adjusting the seat depth in the front kind of hurts your legs and makes them go numb after a while. I had to use a footrest to raise my thighs off of the seat. I feel the seat pan should have been a little bit wider to accommodate for this.
Did you end up getting the Sayl with adjustable lumbar support because of this reason? Still torn between getting one with or without the lumbar add on. :p
i got my embody logitech 3 days ago (got in from BF deal for 1190€) and from what i can say is that the mentioned Noises (from the comments an other sources) from the structure are there but its not a big Problem for me. when im working or gaming am not jumping aorund in a chair. and the noises are not loud. no cracking or something like that.
I've had an Aeron and a Mirra 2, but my current and favourite chair is the Humanscale Freedom. It's hardly a gaming chair per se, but I can sit in it for 12-14 hours a day with zero issues. I bought it because my back was giving me crap, and since I've been using it, nothing (at least not caused by sitting too long). It doesn't quite have the adjustability of the Aeron, such as the pitch forward, but I can't say I've missed that too much.
That’s so interesting. I owned a freedom a few years back and I HATED it SOOOO much. I felt like my back was tearing apart every day but kept on bc it was an expensive chair. This is why I tell folks that there is no perfect one size fits all chair!!
My Sayl comes in later this week! My back is gonna thank me as i had a $200 chair before haha
Thank you for this video ♥️ Gonna sell my steelcase leap chair for an aeron.
I think the forward tilt on the aeron and sayl is very good for gamers
Wow, now I'm confused about which one to pick... I'll have to watch the review a few more times...:)
Maybe you leave it on loop and go on vacation for a few weeks and forget to turn it off? Lolol jk let me know if you have questions!
Ordered the Aeron Gaming due to the breathability of the mesh, cant wait for it to arrive!
woot woot!!
How is it? Any updates 10 months later?
This is an incredible video. Did not help me in terms of what chair i want though lol. Its too bad i find all three of these chairs so comfortable lmao
Tried all of these except the Sayl - ended up going with the Cosm. Too many people pass on it because of its auto adjusting features but I love the way they work and the absolute peak design of the thing. Nightfall is also a great colorway for it.
Nice! I’m getting mine february (shipping delays are real!). Can’t wait to review
@@Ahnestly let me know if you have any questions - it's a bit unique in how it handles staying upright or reclining based on how high you have it set, whether your feet are resting up on a footstool or on the ground, and whether you're resting against on the backrest and how much, etc. But it's super comfortable, supports my lumbar area while conforming to the rest of my body, and is hands down the best looking chair in the HM lineup in my opinion. What color and arm setup did you get? I went with Leaf Arms since they flatten out when I recline comfortably - but I also ordered the adjustable arms as a backup if I ever get tired of them (hasn't happened in the past 6 months so I don't think it will, IMO, but we'll see.)
my friend convinced me to get the fire red lol. Fully loaded with leaf arms
Purchased and returned (or at least waiting to return, HM is dragging their feet) the gaming embody. It wasn’t loud or creaky which is nice, but even with the added seat padding i could feel each individual “spring” stabbing into my butt while sitting. I’m 205 lbs. not terribly light, but well under the weight limit. Ordered an Aeron and keeping fingers crossed that it works out for me.
How did the Aeron work out for you? I am thinking about returning my non-gaming Embody in order to try the Aeron Gaming.
To be fair to aeron ive never used it specifically. When i was in the navy we had chairs that look almost identical to it though and i HATED them. The mesh pulled from the frame of the seat due to constant wear from heavier armed guys the arm rests appear to be similar and were a pain in the ass to adjust. I generally hate that hard border all around the chair as a bigger guy (6'3 250lb) i will be buying the embody in the nearer future and cause of thid vid i will make sure to use your link.😊
I am looking for a high quality office chair with arm rest that can move away or tilt up to make the chair feel like there are no arm rest. This is one huge functionality for guitar players. I found many cheap options on Amazon but there were several negative reviews. HM Aaron looks perfect if the Arms rest can tilt 90 degree or remove easily.
so underrated. greetings from germany
Another one from Deutschland! Mein Freund! Danke Schoen!!
@@Ahnestly haha :)
I'm torn between the embody and the Haworth Fern.
I sat in the embody for 30 minutes at a dealer and have never sat in a more comfortable posture, truly blown away. But I'm not sure if it will sit as comfortable after a few hours since the seat felt really hard and the lumbar support feels (to me) super aggresive. Now i'll admit i've never really had a chair with lumbar support so maybe it takes some getting used to.
The Fern on the other hand has a softer seat i heard and a similar backrest, anyone ever sat in both?
I literally was trying to pick one between embody and sayl 2 days ago. You video has been super helpful! Do you think the Embody's handles for seat depth adjustment would get in the way if I spread my legs too much?
not at all. They go out super wide and you can raise them so it def won't get in the way!
Have you tried the Haworth Fern? If so, how does it compare to the Embody?
What's the latest update for the HM Logitech Embody headrest from Atlas?
I completely agree that the lumbar support is lacking on the Embody as opposed to the Aeron. (for reference I'm 194cm weighing 85kg)
I ordered the gaming embody, it's on it's way, can't wait to try it and get rid of this old rigid walmart chair I got many years ago lol
Hey Ahnestly. Does the embody chair have the tilt forward function like how the Aeron does? As a gamer I find myself tilting forward alot of the time so I would still want the comfortable support while tilting forward. Do you have any recommendations?
Would love to see you review the Haworth Fern. Looks pretty interesting.
Haworth has been super backed up...trying to get them to send me the chair already!
@@Ahnestly I ordered the Quick Ship Coal Fern last week during the sale. The backrest intrigued me the most, super unique design. Hopefully they'll send you the chair asap.
Herman Miller should mix the 3 and make one perfect chair.
I'm 5'11, 160lbs. I tried the Sayl and Embody in store briefly and am torn. Is the max seat height the same on both? Not sure the Embody is worth paying double for...
Wish you could've showcased more of the new cushion headrest on the Aeron
Will make a video on it!
Ya you can do that wedging at 27:46 in with the Embody and that makes it feel enveloping and comfortable, but at least on the non gaming one your butt is going to slide forward on the slippery seat and you'll find yourself slouching in no time, and it's very uncomfortable then. This is the main reason I sold mine.
Great vid! I just got my non-gaming Embody a few days ago and noticed that hard lumbar lump pretty soon on the first day. I was ready to be bothered by it but I stuck it out and on the second day it just... disappeared. I readjusted my position and it was gone. Physically it's still there when I feel for it with my hands but I can't feel it on my back. I don't know if I broke it in or if it broke me in, but it's much more comfortable now.
Still, the backrest is stiffer than I expected and I'm considering ordering a Fern to try alongside it. I'm looking forward to seeing what you think of the Fern!
Just wanted to say you're a phenomenal content creator! So knowledgeable, genuine and down to earth :)
I did want to ask one thing. I want to buy an embody or aeron for office and gaming. For gaming I like to recline when playing console (using computer monitors). I know you can't recline lock these chairs. But if you use the least rocking resistance, can you stay reclined for long periods? Can you use like a foot stool or automan or will that be uncomfortable or even damage the chair if reclined for a long time? Thanks!
I have the Arron and yes, you can set the tilt tension to be so low that it won’t push back, I also raise my legs on a stool and it’s incredible.
@@twixyfingers6588 thanks for that! Sounds great
Sorry for being so late to respond! This is true - you can loosen it a LOT and the HUGE benefit of classic over the new remastered is it takes about 10-12 turns to loosen vs tighten versus on the classic, it was about (not joking) 25 turns
I got an aeron and found a mesh ottoman that’s similarly color matched and sit in it like a lounge chair lol
When is the headrest coming for the embody? im leaning forward when im gaming what do you recommend for me? what do you think about the vantum chair?
You reviewed the first 2 chairs and chose to remain seated in the embody. Tells me everything 😂
Hahahaha love it.