Rudy asks Stores....IS Flesh and Blood a SCAM!?
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This video started as an interview. It ended as 3 nerds impulse buying cardboard.
A classic I'd say.
Great to see Spencer from Magnolia getting exposure. One of the hardest working dealers in the community, on all sides of TCG’s 💪💪💪!
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Love the ending of the video:
Some Guy: "It's the taco man"
Taco Man: "sup"
Video: ends
😆 had me rolling
I rewatched the video because I thought something went wrong. Noticed that at the end as well… I’m envisioning the patron holding a sharpie and one of the Rudy MetaZoo promo cards…
Spencer is definitely a great guy and his business is top notch. I have bought from him several times now and it's always been a good experience. I'm very glad Rudy shot this video while we were there and gave him some good face time.
The Bible says that no one is a good person. We have all broken God's law the 10 commandments, we have all committed, lies, adultery, idolatry, and blasphemy. We deserve hell, but because of what Jesus did on the cross we can be forgiven. So if you Repent of your sins, change your wicked ways, and put your faith in Christ you will be written in the book of life. 👌 🙏Repentance is reviewing one's actions and feeling contrition or regret for past wrongs, which is accompanied by commitment to and actual actions that show and prove a change for the better..
@@TmacPlushVideos guess you're going to hell !!!!
@@TmacPlushVideos Not sure why that came up, but yes. We all fall short and need saving for sure.
Dude idk bro.. my buddy was locked up and his crack head ex girlfriend took his collection over to Spencer. Apparently he told her that it wasn’t worth much and paid her 100 bucks for a collection that was worth thousands! My buddy got released and tried to get his collection back but Spencer wouldn’t do anything for him. My buddy was so upset but can’t really do much because he is in a wheelchair
@@devinb5937 wow locked up and in a wheelchair and had a crackhead ex girlfriend???? 😮
I order from Spencer. Amusing to have a face to a name. I still preorder a case from them for every set
Finally an escape from Baldur's Bulk
Wow feels like early MTG Alpha, Beta. I still remember those days!
Dude, during those days you could get a Mox for a couple of bucks and a Lotus in return for buying someone lunch. Not only did many people not realize their value ("It's just something that's like a land!"), but nobody at that time could conceive that this silly card game could one day be worth tens of thousands of dollars.
Someone once traded me an Alpha Mox Pearl AND Mox Ruby for my Alpha Force of Nature. Why wouldn't he? Force of Nature ENDED GAMES. It was one of the original bombs! I didn't want to give it up, but he needed it for his Big Green deck. This was around Christmas of 1993, when I was a high school Junior who loved Magic because it felt so much like Dungeons and Dragons.
@@Josh-99 love that story man
You guys noticed how Rudy's obsessed with Flesh and Blood to the point where he even looks like that Gem Keeper character from the game?
Super late response but I just found out about this game. Is it supposed to be him? I hope Lmaooo
Collecting is cool. Grading is a scam.
Scam or not it's how you authenticate a card
I really appreaited seeing The Taco Timmies haggling on the card prices. Holy Taco, Rudy should start a band "The Taco Timmies!"
name's taken
Great video featuring some good dudes and interesting perspectives. They're echoing what I've seen, not all the collectors are gone....
Hearing these prices just baffles me.
and it only came out at the end of 2019
Makes me more bullish on yugioh. My ultimate rare dark armed dragons (around 500 apiece) aren’t even a quarter of what some of these cards are lol. My ultimate rare Trishula, dragon of ice barrier is barely a 200 dollar card, more like 170 and both of these cards are out of tournament packs and were centerpieces of famous formats, hahaah.
why are they worth so much? coming from a casual player/collector of pokemon/yugioh
@@DrMaoh 3 things mainly, rarity/scarcity, power of the card, and age meaning it hasn’t and won’t be reprinted anytime soon
I've had nothing but great experiences dealing with Magnolia Gaming ordering both sealed MTG and FAB... always great communication and fair pricing.
My favorite card is also extended twinning blade, which is why I so far own 2 of them 😁💪
2.0 is a success, UPR is a phenominal set.
LSS just keeps rising above expectations. They're making bold moves and learning from their mistakes; truly setting themselves up for long term success.
FAB is here to stay, get with it or get the fuck out of the way.
Damn dude, there are card games that have been around for much longer before they failed. It is way too early to be so confident. Some crypto bros were just as bullish on some of the coins that are now worthless.
As the economy worsens. People will have less disposable income and FAB will face an uphill battle to get people to spend on it.
Not trying to be negative as I think the game is cool but being more realistic.
Fab is dying a slowely dead
@@metallicflare1 the game is cheap doe lol wouldn't the cheaper game survive as the economy tightens? fab also has an official commander like multiplayer ruleset and common card only deck rules.
Here in the UK all I see is flesh and blood players in LGS and not magic
Same here where I live 🙌
same in norway
@@DrLu5t it’s actually really interesting, also the age demographic is a lot younger
@Losty yup, it's a younger core mostly here, lots of military guys, MTG crossovers and other various backgrounds. Really chill group for the most part for sure
Whats LGS mean?
Hopefully we can get some more flesh and blood videos now with all the whackiness going on with WotC. Obviously the MtG drama is going to be the big go-getters for views and traffic but I think the attitude about MtG lately has really been turning a lot of players towards other games like FaB
I’ve bought from Magnolia. Good guys. Class act.
Why do you do the analysis if there are reliable Cross Staking platforms such as oreol staking?
I hope 10 years from now we don't talk about this game as something we used to do...
Good luck. 👌🏻
It’s doing better than that Transformers game.
FaB is in its 3rd year and that is the 1st wall to go through where a lot of card games die usually. Uprising was a "make or break" set for me and it's a big success so far. Collectors and players are happy about the bling inside. Cold Foils got rarer for Legendary and Fabled which is good for the collectors and Rainbow Foils are slightly more common which is good for players. Marvels are really cool cards too. Uprising will stay fun to open even 6+ months from now and if the all future sets follow that model, the game is setting itself up for success.
If they don't make older cards more accessible, I don't have high hopes. The fact that equipment never rotates out (and they wouldn't dare ban Spring Tunic even though they should for the health of the game), means that if we don't see reprints, the game will get increasingly less accessibly to new players. Combine that with everyone having less disposable income these days and you have a recipe for a combination of "players exiting the game" and "no new players joining" over the exact same reason: cost.
@@Josh-99 This game is mad cheap compared to Magic.
Interview, to nerding to buying. Love it
Love Dan! Hearts are 160? I’ll buy all 3
That’s my LCS! Mag gaming FTW!
Your lucky to have such cool and knowledgeable store owners near where you live.
@@kalman0966 definitely agree! Moved here from Japan, and immediately looked for an LCS for FAB. Found them, was a blessing.
"Thinking rationally about it, with all my experience, i was scared a lot, then i listened to this dude that is good at talking to crowd and i feel much better now".
Not sure how reassuring this is lmao
Rudy said "hold my taco" and stopped filming so he can make some shady basement investor business, i am sure of that
Hey Spencer!!!! My favorite LGS
When ur wife tells u she main decks burn: 8:25
Magnolia Games is good ppl. I know them from the Cracking Packs MTG yt channel. All good stuff. Pretty cool vid, Rudy.(gotta give credit where credit is due)FAB jokes aside, though.
great video, thank you for the nice impression! cool guy!
Oh Magnolia!!! Someone call Matt!!!! I love these video!!!!
This is a surreal video lol, cant wait to look fondly back on this video in years to come.
and laugh at 1st editions going for just a couple of thousand
@@kensw87I don’t know much about this game. How are prices? I checked TCG and the prices are trending downward.
Always good to see irl collectors! Pretty cards!
they are not collectors they are dealers :)
@@ricardoblikman2676 Spencer literally called themselves a collector but nice job mansplaining
I am both :) I have a set of 9.5 ls and fableds from every set and I sell my extras
@@spencerthomas6997 Ditto :)
@@spencerthomas6997 And a business man 1.5m is a lot of turnover. But the point I wanted to make is that dealers and collectors are different parties to sell to or buy from with different prices and objectives.
Aww, crap. Cut off in the middle of the deal. Now I want to know, did you get them, Edwin+OB? :)
I did end up buying a Grandeur of Valahai at that event... trying to remember if I bought it from Spencer... I'm thinking no because he didn't have it. But I did do deal with Dan and Rudy that whole weekend. One of us would start a big purchase, the other 2 would jump in and add cards to the pile. Then we would make an offer for a huge stack of cards, buy them, and sort out who owes what money to each other afterwards. Great way to get deals.
It was during that Pro Tour weekend that I decided to COMPLETELY finish collecting an entire playset of everything WTR to EVR. Which is now done and I can build any deck!
Awesome! I heard you had that planned but now you got there. Congrats and happy playing! :)
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer god bless collectors like you!!
I've seen a lot of videos that take place at Magnolia gaming.
How do you hit back to back EA Twinning Blades when they are twice as rare as Shiyana?
@R J ancient chinese secret 😉
Seems James has a golden tongue! he must be good with da ladies 1.5m in singles thats a millionaire in FaB woot!
That's 1.5 mil I'm sales, that doesn't factor in any of the cost to acquire the product. Could still be over a mil or under depending.
@@Moonlighter_TV True but since the game is new there is a chance they managed to buy it very cheap and end up with 1m profit. However most people put profit back into inventory which basically makes it non-cash profits or inventory. I wondered if they also payed the taxes though :)
I think this game is a scam pretty sure this game is not the prices of that old single are going up to 6 figures compare to magic or yu-gi-oh they make yu-gi-oh and magic look cheap.
Been a fan of this game since over a year, but this game is a scam for sure for collectors.
Listen, Flesh and Blood is, first and foremost, a game that is meant to be played; its role as a revenue stream for collectors and resellers is a secondary if not a tertiary consideration. In my opinion, LSS should print WAY more, and the primary form of revenue for resellers should be via pack sales, not singles.
I really want to get more into this game beyond the one deck that I have (Lexi), but the cost is just too high and many important cards are just too rare. I've never once bought a pack; I just bought singles to make a single deck.
I'd like to see reprints of the truly inaccessible cards like Spring Tunic.
Oooo that's what Spencer looks like 😊
This game is not even three years old, and there is already an investment community selling cards for 4-5 figures. When you ask one of these investors how he feels about the market, he responds with “uh…well…” and “my wife is upset” and “it could’ve been worse.” Then he tells a story about a guy buying out 300 cards from vendors and then trying to flip them later that same day to those same vendors for $4 more. I think this video sums up the state of this game as an investment well: it’s shit.
If Magic came out 3 years ago, and Flesh and Blood 25 years ago... You would be saying the exact same thing about Magic. Because everything you stated happens with all the TCGs, and a lot of this behavior mostly due to covid/timmys.
Also, I wouldn't exactly call a Dealer/Store an 'Investor'. It's a murky line, but its still disingenuous to just say "when you ask one of these investors". While they could very well be an Investor, there are many other factors in play when most of their stuff is For Sale and they do this for a living. The time horizon on these 'investments' is much shorter when it is a Store - so with Any product they would be anxious/feel uneasy about any elevated risk potential.
@@akujik MTG is actually a fun game with wide appeal. Comments like this show how utterly clueless people are about the CCG market. The game is arbitrary, apparently.
Sure, prices may be too high, but the game will be dead in a year, so the time to make profits is now!
Hobby’s aren’t scams if you enjoy them no matter how deep it gets
If a company has intentions to scam and you enjoy it....Youre still getting scammed
@@commentresurrection1841 explained by a dominatrix.
@@cyberneticthezero Also hobbies aren't scams but companies producing items for said hobbys are totally scamming you.
Edwin is the worst; I'm surprised he didn't tell the vender that he invented the chaos orb deck.
I'm not a fan. He seems to think that the only way to have a successful card game is to make every single card obscenely expensive and ignore the actual playerbase at large.
Selling prices that high it’s like selling houses before Fed raised the interest rate.
I've still been holding all my higher end cards including a big clump of LSS stamped Calling cards.
Sell it.
Scam Bubble is about to pop
@@Drannos99 im fine holding my cards for the next 20 years... the money burnt isnt that important to me lol
Interesting
FaB 4ever
Epic to see, thank you.
just not a product I'm interested in. best of luck to the folks enjoying and invested in it.
Imo Beckett is way less consistent with their FAB grades than PCG US.
they really into it. great
It's not a scam it's a game that "investors" pumped to the moon, the game itself is fine, very niche though and the cards have no reason to be that valuable. maybe 10 years down the line these cards might be legitimately worth something but it's been a bubble forever.
Honestly, the game itself isn't even that good. It has some major design issues for a game that supposedly took 5 years to develop, and was developed within the last 8 or 9 years.
The Cold Foils are cool from a collecting/investing standpoint. I also support 1st Edition and Unlimited printings of cards to further help out the collector/investor subset.
But the gameplay is the worst I've played out of all of the new card games that have come out within the last few years. Sure, that is my opinion, but even content creators who focused on Magic and started splitting their content between the two games for a while have stopped and went back to only doing Magic.
If people like it, then great. Theme and game design are not the same things.
@@Xoulrath_ Yeah people were like you are never mana screw bla bla bla but the gameplay is so boring, your turn you attack, opponent turn you defend, almost no interactions exist and only one way to win the game.
this game will be dead and buried 10 years down the line
So they are selling a 9.5 grade unlim heart for 2k? Cool, I will send mine in fo sho. Now that 1st ed CRU boxes are below 6 bills I am tempted to open mine. Glad to see people still making gains on the collector side.
You meant metazoo right?
What's the point of comparing the staking sites if there is Cross Staking
one of my favorite videos in a long long time.
Finacial security through diligent saving and invsting should be on top of everyone's priority ASAP. Then when the work burns you out, you can pursue other options at the time of your choosing.
@Camila Liam I have a business planner for all my business ideas, invstmnts, goals, etc. I keep track of my journey to see how far I've come! making moves every month, my 2 years old port-f0lio has smashed 220k in value from an initial allocation of 50k.
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Yo I thought that was Froggy flips for a second.
Oh nuts, it came to the end!!!
Flesh and blood is absolutely a scam. Nobody plays it at all.
I tried to. It just isn't really much of a game. And it is way too damn expensive for the new kid on the block, with very little tournament support (in my area anyway). Not that tourneys matter when the gameplay is so bad.
@@jamesoncurry5224 no, they weren't. Not a year ago when I tried FAB. Currently with the "Chronicles" style reprints, maybe the game has become much cheaper. But when I looked into a Chane deck, it was pushing a thousand bucks. That's a lot even for a typical tier 2 or tier 1 Modern deck.
@@jamesoncurry5224 dude, I currently play Magic. I've played the game off and on for 25 years. Outside of Type 1 aka Vintage format, NO DECK costs tens of thousands of dollars. Even Type 1.5 aka Legacy tops out around $5k to $6K, with the average being closer to $3K. The primary reason that Legacy is even that expensive is because of the Reserved List Dual Lands that are legal in the format.
Modern, the format that I play the most of, has a 2 or 3 decks that can push $1.5K. The vast majority of them fall into the $600-$800 range. Budget Modern decks can be had for as little as $100, and they are actually competitive.
So please don't come in here with your hyperbole about Magic costing tens of thousands of dollars to play. For one thing, it's just wrong. For another, Magic has multiple formats and has been around for almost 30 years. Comparing it to FAB is like comparing apples and oranges.
If you want to more closely compare Magic to your claimed $600 top end meta decks for FAB, then you need to compare it to the Type 2 aka Standard format of Magic. Standard decks can run upwards of $400 depending on which specific Mythics are in the deck, and in what number. But you can get most tournament capable meta decks for Standard in the $200 range all day long. Which still means that FAB costs as much to play as Magic.
Magic is an established game with a huge diversity of ways to play, collect, and invest. FAB is a new game with a lot of initial hype from investors that caused it to spike to absurd levels of cost. So as I said, a year ago, when I looked into the Chane deck that I was considering building, it was pushing $1K. As of today, with the reprints and new cards and a new meta, I've no clue what the cost would be. I'll take your word for it because it's not worth my time to look it up.
I made it very clear that I looked into a tournament deck a year ago and what the cost for it was then. The current meta decks and costs don't change what my experience in the past was. It also doesn't change the fact that FAB is excessively costly for a game that hasn't really established itself save for a handful of stores.
@@jamesoncurry5224 dude, you're obviously high on something. I've played since 97. Power 9 could be had for next to nothing back then, given the extreme rarity. A playset of Moxes and Lotus was $800. Time Walk, Time Twister, and Ancestral Recall could all be had for as low as $50 each. So for $1K back then, you could have the entire Power 9.
You could use those cards in exactly one format: Type 1. So most players didn't bother to buy them unless they were interested in playing Type 1, or collecting the cards. I'm honestly not sure why the hell you brought those cards up, other than to compare them to their supposed equivalents from FAB?
I'm also lost as to how you think that anything that you just said makes any sense whatsoever. You mention playing Magic in 95, with the Power 9 being expensive, naming some FAB cards, and then saying that Magic has always been pay to play.
No shit, all of these games that you pay for are pay to play, FAB included. I've already broken down current costs of Magic. The most comparable format of Magic to FAB is Standard. The costs are actually less than what you said the high end for FAB currently is. So which game is actually more "pay to win," since that is something that you want to debate?
I'm not defending Magic. WotC has become a horrible hand of Hasbro. They are absolutely all about the cash grab now. It still doesn't change the fact that FAB is overcosted and driven by the speculative investors from day one.
Sold 2 PSA 10 CF Crazy Brews in the past for 900 and 850. Still have one last one to hold forever :)
Pretty much dead in San Francisco. Regional?
Rudy, there more double masters 2022 then folks think. I was told I for sure would get my 2 pallets. When sealed was spoiled I tried to get 3 more pallets said if I paid for a 3rd pallet I for sure could get a third. So I did. I thought it was going to to be 4 per case and 300 boxes per pallet. Instead it 6 pet case and 550 per pallet well 546 boxes per pallet. Which brings what I thought was 260 per box down to 190 per box. Well delivery showed up got all 5 pallets and had to pay for the other two pallets. I got to talking to the delivery guy and he said wotc sent them a second shipment to the warehouse of double masters 2022 Saturday. So they have double what they ordered and what they thought they were going to get.
Well that's great bro but if you're ordering stock by the pallet without checking the unit price you have issues.
I'm kind of new to magic and I love it, but whenever I hear people talk about magic I don't understand alot of the stuff they are talking about lol
Honestly fab isn't played at all when I'm from
Same here, there is only one event a week in all the city and they are around 12. Thinking about leaving the game just for this reason.
@@davegregoire5276 I've been to every shop in my town. No organized play has ever happened. We have 5 shops
Why the #%$@ was there a monarch drought when the set first came out. R.i.p 300 a box
$1.5M in sales, but revenue is kinda what matters...
I have seen the best interest rates only at staking sites with Cross Staking technology, oreol staking for example
FAB VENDOR LOL
Sold nothing 😂☝🏻
YES!!!!!!!!!
F&B Crucible 1st printing boxes are holding at over $500 a box, recent sales. I want to know, when do we get to stop having to talk about scams?
I could understand Yugioh, but FaB having 1st and Unlimited Editions doesn’t make much sense. The reason I understand Yugioh more is because there is a reasonable length of time between the release of 1st and Unlimited. Whereas for FaB it’s the 1st release and then the Unlimited a month after. And aren’t they the same price on release? So there’s a gap in price between the 1st and Unlimited all because it says “1st?”
@@Invictus-Solaris yugioh was just as fast. Now they don't even do unlimited for core sets. It's just all 1st
Yeah people talk about a bear market, but a set that’s not even 2 years old is still more than 5x its value. People buying that shows collectors are still everywhere
I would say at the 10 year mark
@@Invictus-Solaris I don't think Unlimited Crucible is worth less; I do think 1st edition Crucible is worth more. That being said, I have no idea what they were thinking making Monarch 1st and Unlimited at the same time. Sounds stupid to me.
I firmly believe the game is solid. Some could be too focused on the success of MTG and loose track of the fact that MTG was started by people focused on selling the game.
Totally unbiased opinion from a vendor who traveled to a FAB event to sell cards 🙄
Fab is magic reprint
😂when it comes to selling the cards you will see it’s a nightmare to get real money with same market price it’s just a niche thing flesh and blood
Considering nobody actually plays FaB and the only reason it is around is because Rudy pimps it so hard, yes, it is a scam.
If you have to ask....
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Spencer was High AF lololol
why the hell are those cards so much money?
Cause people are dumb
Lol 1/32 chance of getting a 9.5 grade, on pack fresh cards (I don’t care how stringent things are, that’s sad), sent in from a reputable seller. No wonder the average collectors view grading negatively. You either pay a fat premium, or literally take shots in the dark at a variance of thousands of dollars gained or lost. If I loved a particular card that much, I’d pay the premium, but at a 1/32 clip, who is paying for this?
...yes.
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typical Rudy clickbait. He only talked to one store in the whole video
The best store.
i like the game
I think a lot of the people who got into it wish they could have their money back
I just dont get it, but...* shrugs* I dont have to I suppose. All things are as they are fated to be.
Here we are, come together
To the world we'll testify
You call this a video quitter?
Why didn’t Rudy pick up those graded cards and chuck them ?
Cross Staking is the best staking platform!
they switch to white borders mid way through production, where have i seen this before
.......rudy then bought out everything on the spot....well kids i hoped u liked the story.
what the hell why are these so valable?
game is dead this set is a wash. Its too difficult for new players and none of the new heros seem to be able to hang in the meta = why buy the new set....i guess for shiny unplayable dragons
WHERE'S MATT? :O
Deal nuggets
FaB is new af and unsuccessful yet these guys out here already grade them lmao.
..... it is the perfect example of why western countries gdp is worthless, we are including this worthless thing and comparing withreal valuable things
Bearish = best cases