The New Toyota Truck Nobody Was Expecting: Is This The New Stout?
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I would buy. This is exactly what I need. 25 mile round trip commute to work and a small bed for weekend chores around the house.
Exactly, same here... I'm on board! Hurry up Toyota!
You just described the Honda Ridgeline.
It's just not an EV. I want to break the gas habit and charge from home. @@samfolkestad1726
Yep, and you just described what the majority of truck owners really need vs a lifted f150 to make up for "short" commings.
@@samfolkestad1726 The Ridgeline isn't compact- it's midsize.
Would probably sell like hot cakes if they build a compact truck. Hopefully subaru builds one.
I agree... I don't know what Subaru is waiting for. People are overpaying for used Baja's right now. Can you imagine the demand for a new one?
Nobody wants a compact truck. Creating a use case for something that isn't needed. Ppl that want trucks want the size. A barely 4 foot bed isn't hauling anything.
@@omardevonlittle3817 Thanks for your in-depth research - I guess you have surveyed everybody.
@@izraelite2908 I don't need to survey everyone. There's no more utility in this vehicle than a midsized truck, and there's no efficiency gains over the Maverick. In conclusion this would be cross shopped with the Nissan Cube and the profit per unit would make it not worth selling. Kinda like where we are with the Maverick with its HUGE demand. If it isn't profitable to be sold in huge volumes it won't be. Simple
@@omardevonlittle3817 I need a truck for work. A basic, no-frills work truck. Full-size trucks at $50k are entirely too expensive, they've grown too big, and they guzzle gas. I'd much rather have a compact work truck for my needs.
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that steering yokes in cars are stupid...
Yeah I'm not a fan. It seems gimmicky, trying to make it a futuristic concept of a car. Wheels are just more functional.
It's a concept not a production vehicle
yeah but when they keep pushing it on concept cars it eventually ends up in real cars.@@Investor_philips
Concept cars steering wheel are always like this, not in the production…
I bet you like the Tesla’s one..
Yokes should be left to eggs.
It would be nice as a hybrid. All electric, not so much.
Why not? EV’s are great
@@Bluebottlenoseyour PFP and failed gaming channel you trying to make; makes everything you say invalid.
@Bluebottlenose initial purchase price, range.
Good luck trying to buy a Toyota car at sticker for the next several years.
I'd never buy a used EV. Resale on Toyota, if you need to get out of it, is one of their strong suits.
I've been waiting for the Toyota Stout to be announced all year. I'd much prefer it over the Maverick, but if it is only available in electric that's a deal killer for me. I really hope it has a hybrid awd option.
Lots of people want a hybrid, but this is a dedicated EV design - flat floor, deep bed.
I'm with you on that. Been waiting for the stoudt to come out. Electric only is a deal breaker for me as well.
No electric for me!
I'm always surprised how scared people are of evs. Makes no sense to me. I have the hybrid Maverick and I wish it was ev.
@@matthewgoedtel5998At least for me, I live in a hurricane prone area. We can be without power for weeks or even months and solar panels are not an option for a lot of people yet.
I'll take a hybrid awd version.
Tacoma?
@@maisondav1d I'd prefer a smaller truck, Tacoma has gotten quite massive.
@@noneyabizz8337But you get more truck for basically the same price
@@wildncuzimyoungyou have no idea what the pricing would be.
@@mattpike7268Once you start getting options on this truck, the price starts getting competitive with midsize trucks
Even if the sticker was $30,000 on the EPU, they will sell for $50,000 or more with "Market Adjustment Price" added by the Toyota dealers.
Just order one from a reputable dealer.
The vehicle market is slowing down. People who are paying "market adjustment prices" are not paying attention. Vehicles are sitting on dealer lots longer. The ball isn't dramatically back in the buyers court, but it's moving that way.
Tbh it's worth even $50k considering you are getting an EV Toyota, so you know it will last forever and hold it's resale value. The truck is the perfect size and should surpass the Tacoma as Toyota's most popular truck. Can't wait to see these come out!
@@wade7959 This is true. However Honda and Toyota still have the lowest inventory levels so your likely going to pay full MSRP. And many are still selling fluff like nitrogen air etc.. MSRP's are still too high for my tastes. Even when you account for inflation they have nudged the prices further with fatter margins. We are beginning to see discounts again like Ram but there is still along ways to go. Give it another year and the banks will be in full crisis mode with many dealers getting in deep trouble with their floor space. However, a small compact truck from Toyota will likely see ADM's for a time. Even with the honest dealers. There will be just too much demand. And Toyota's margins are not as inflated as the big three which will attract even more buyers.
Toyota stealerships will love this thing.
First thing I thought is why a quad cab on such a small wannabe pickup? You can't really do pickup truck things with it. Be nice to see a small truck that can hold a sheet of plywood. I miss the little pickups of the 1970's. No frills but could be used to get plywood or whatever a homeowner needed.
Let's face it. The majority of these will haul air for most of their lifespan, with the occasional groceries and soccer gear tossed in the back. Those of us who actually use trucks as trucks are getting more and more rare. They are largely a "lifestyle" vehicle, now. I didn't even buy a pickup on my last go 'round. I got a _much_ better deal on a van, so I went with that. The markups on trucks are insane. When the Gladiator came out, everyone scoffed at the $33,000+ price tag for a midsize truck. Now people are praying the next compact pickup comes in under $40,000. Insane.
By the way, the tailgate supposedly folds up in the middle, so you can haul a sheet of plywood on the wheel wells and the folded tailgate. It'll just stick out a few feet.
I would’ve been completely on board but an EV only would be a deal killer right now
For $30,000 I’d take this over the Chevy Bolt EUV
For $30 I’d take this over the Baker Electric.
If you are going to make a silly pointless comparison, you might as well go all the way. And to everybody that liked the OC, good luck buying platinum for the price of lead.
No one could build this for $30K. The battery alone costs over $15K. They could do it for that price if it was a low powered hybrid.
It won’t be 30 but even if mid 40s with rebates I’d take it over my lariat maverick I have on order 😊
For $30k I’m buying a used Lexus IS350 lol. I’m over new stuff a bit. Especially cars. I love cars and it’s just a little unfortunate to me, the direction the industry is going. I love physical buttons, minimal but effective safety tech, and to feel connected to the road. All the EVs I’ve driven, despite better baseline performance (lower Center of Gravity), most of them feel cold and a bit sterile, especially the more “economical” ones. The Lucid Air was an exception for me, it’s truly luxurious. But it’s still too quiet. I like hearing what my car is doing and being able to work on it if need be. I’m only 30 but I feel like an old person saying this lol - it just does feel like the soul has been sucked out of the industry a bit with the advent of EVs.
I will never understand why automotive (truck) journalists don't keep a small tape measure with them at all times. It's so handy for those "How big is it?" questions.
@Gene… What’s even worse, I believe iPhone has apps that will measure straight lines pretty accurately with the camera. So totally unacceptable not to try measuring things at a show.
@@is6566 That is worse!
It would be great as a hybrid! Drive it anywhere, anytime without worrying about range.
They need to make a small, 2 door, manual, 4x4 pickup with no computers. Sell it for $20k.
Get you a old Ford ranger or Nissan frontier for that. They're never going to sell trucks under $30000 again
this will never happen before centuries when the world will go back to good old oil and get rid of all these laws that control your life.
Even back cameras are mandatory... OBDII is also so basically you can't legally produce a road legal car/truck intended for sale without a computer in it. Just go buy an old pickup...
Buy a used garden tractor.
The easiest and lowest cost vehicles to assemble are trucks. Yuppie buyers and mall crawlers have been driving the price of them out of the hands of those that really need a pickup. @@wildncuzimyoung
They legally cannot do that. Vehicle standards and regulations require certain features now that require computers in lots of areas.
Fully loaded around $35-$40K and no dealer markups would make (something like) this appealing to me.
Keep dreaming. Add 10K to those numbers if not more. I expect the bare bones ICE version to come in at around 40K. And that would be FWD non turbo gas engine.
@@HiPlains1 nah
@@HiPlains1 This is pure BEV, there won't be a gas version, or even a hybrid.
I was thinking the same markup, we are better off buying the new Tacoma!! @@HiPlains1
make it a standard hybrid at $20k instead
want a two door version with a longer bed!
Toyota had a press release about this vehicle and told everyone it was going to be at that show...so Surprise? They also said they aren't working on the Stout, that apparently is a internet fantasy. Small EV truck isn't a bad idea to compete in the US though. The Maverick is intended for the more urban crowd, so mostly short trips, perfect for an a little EV truck.
Toyota has had the bz4x sitting in dealerships for awhile now...EV only, doesn't sell. EV's are a tough sell right now.
Maverick is work purposed first, that's why it's built the way it is. It's designed as a fleet truck. That's why it sells so well
It doesn't need to compete with the rivian. If they can make a compact electric truck that gets 250miles on a charge and keep the cost under 45 it would sell like crazy. Keep it simple and the smaller battery would keep costs down.
Rivian keeps losing money. I expect many of these smaller EV oems's will go bust. Just like they did in the 1930's-40's. I even have my doubts as whether some of the larger oem's can get to profitability like Ford. I mean they lost over 6 billion on EV and lose over 30k per unit with most of their mach e's and lightnings rotting on the lots..The major problem is the high cost of Li-on as its a rare element and is environmentally very expensive and dirty to mine. It really does not have a very green footprint. Toyota had the best idea with hybrid as their sales more then prove. Our government thinks Li-on is the answer for global warming but it really isn't. As its just too expensive for the masses and likely always will be.
$45,000 for a compact truck with 250 miles of range is nutty.
Toyota just needs to make a hybrid like the Maverick for $25,000, and it will actually sell and be profitable.
$45,000 for a compact truck with 250 miles of range.... With virtually no operating costs is nutty not to want....
I think the perfect market position îs, 250 PS AWD, 72kWh, 220 miles range. Practically BZ4x platform for costs optimization. Price 48k which allows Toyota to produce it with limited losts. Dont forget nobody except Tesla can make a real profit with Evs. So the strategy for all the other automakers îs just to be present, hoping în a future miraculous game changer event to switch on profit.
@@HiPlains1 Battery tech is changing quickly and some are now using sodium instead of lithium AND all those batteries are recyclable so those rare metals that go into batteries aren't just a one use deal. Making vehicles profitable is tough, but Tesla has figured it out. A model 3 with the $ 7,500 incentive can be had for 33K now, that's below the average cost of vehicles now, ICE or EV.
Looks goofy but very practical. I wish they'd take some inspiration from older body styles from the 80s and 90s. I want a 2024 version of a single cab S10.
All EVs look goofy
My 2007 Canyon is probably the last generation of genuine small pickups. Because the truck market is catering to posers who want luxury trucks, I'm forced to stick with my Canyon as long as possible to suit my needs.
Put a lift kit on it, better rims and tires plus a winch and you have a badass looking truck!
All EVs will always look goofy.....
to people that hate EVs....
@@nc3826 what a divisive statement lol
If I could go back in time to buy a car, it would be an 80s-90s Nissan Hardbody single cab short bed or similar. This would serve my needs perfectly and affordably. I wish automakers understood how necessary and valuable these little compact, cheap, and useful trucks were to us. No BS, no faff, no spaceship style. Just a nice box. Ford Maverick has made it clear how much in demnad these trucks are but its unobtainable with even used ones going for up tp $10k over base price. There are two Nissan Hardbody's in my neighborhood that the owners will just keep running forever because they are unreplaceable. It's like the people are demanding pancakes but the restaurants only serve foie gras.
I agree! Have you seen how expensive a hardbody is these days? Insane!
Remember the small V/W pick-up back in the 70's that gave 50mpg and got everyone from A to B without any problems?
@@77.88. I don't know if I'd consider the VW caddy an actual pickup. It was a golf with a pickup bed. Towing/payload was awful. It was a less capable El camino/ranchero
If they shoved their hypothetical amazing solid state battery in it, they wouldn't even be able to build enough.
Agreed. The claims on their solid state batteries are amazing. IF they ACTUALLY produce what they've claimed, I 100% think they couldn't keep these on the lots.
They won't be able to build enough because the SS battery is likely just a figment for marketing purposes.
They are pushing BYD to help them make that solid state battery.
50k for the base plus the 10k Toyota dealer markup
Why didn’t you get your camera underneath and in the wheel wells?
Looks good if all electric.
Seems narrow for its length.
Looks cool, hopefully it's a sign that the stout is coming soon. I can't do EV, but a hybrid version would be great. I actually owned a 23 Santa Cruz for about 6 months before my maverick XL hybrid came in, The mavericks bed is much bigger, and you can't beat getting 45mpg in a small truck. My mountain bike will fit in the maverick with the tailgate up, it had to go over the tailgate with the Hyundai. Load height is lower on the maverick too. I wish TFL weren't across the country from me, I'd definitely let them use my Mav for more maverick coverage.
Here is the million dollar question for you. If the EV costs less than the hybrid what would be the most you would be willing to pay to upgrade from all EV to a hybrid?
@@WayneDavis-v2j $1,500 option. I'd easily save much more than that between outfitting for home charging, and the sheer inconvenience of having to go to a public station. As soon as charging is as fast, widespread, and easy as refueling with gas, I'm all in on EV.
Toyota competing with the Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz would be neat. Anything that adds competition to design, features and pricing is always welcome. I hope it's not just a EV, a hybrid model would be pretty awesome to have in the market if they release this. Also agreed, it's not a contrarian pov to hate the yolk steering wheel, they're dumb, stop it manufacturers... :P
It looks nice
Yes I would seriously consider buying this! This should not be built to be competitive to Rivian/Silverado EV etc... This needs to be affordable and practical. Perhaps two battery options one that can do >200 miles of range and maybe one that can do close to 300 miles of range. Doesn't need to be high performance. Target performance a bit better than a Maverick - Ranger or even a Colorado or Tacoma. Minimum tow rating of 3500lbs, ideally closer to 5000lbs for short distance towing. Pricing needs to start at under $40K USD.
I read elsewhere that the yoke is for people that have issues with their lower extremities. Toyota has developed a yoke that includes accelerator and braking controls so the vehicle can be controlled with the hands. This is a mobility show after all.
That would be great, but only if the yoke did 180 degree rotation maximum, the way an aircraft yoke does.
As a real estate photographer working locally, this would be perfect. There's enough space in that bed for my gear, it will likely have power on-board to keep all my cameras and lights charged, and it's small enough to park anywhere. I'd buy this in a second.
That looks like a baby Rivian. Very sharp.
Baby fisker Alaska is more like it. Better looking imo than the cartoon front end rivians.
Here's to hoping Toyota offers this in an Access Cab version. Longer bed and less seating room for those that want that.
They did even better than that. It has a midgate! It's not a full midgate like the Avalanche had, the window stays in place. But you can fold down the rear seats and then the lower half of the back of the cab folds down.
So, I'm imagining this truck is going to launch as the testbed for Toyota new battery tech. Hopefully that means $40 range. Im desperately hoping they have a base model for $35 with single motor and less fancy interior but I think that's a pre-covid fantasy. I love the concept and think it'll probably compete with the tacoma class wize as a way for toyota to gage interest in electrification in their larger vehicle line up. I think it's pretty smart, considering electric trucks are the less attainable electric vehicles right now and Toyota has the reputation to potentially drive the market for the midsized epu class.
Mom, I want the Stout....
Mom: We have the Stout at home
*Stout at home*
Imagine a loaded truck with 100 mile range in the winter when fully loaded in the mountains
Solid state has 700 miles range
@protect… Nobody has seen a working production ready solid state EV battery, yet.
Until they show one and tested by third party, I call it a total marketing B$.
For a city dweller who is a Toyota fan like myself this would be perfect for house chores.
If Toyota makes this affordable, This Will put the Maverick in a graveyard, If they keep the stout name , maybe it will come with a case of Guinness!
This looks awful , the bed is short vertically and horizontal you can’t even fit a small table in it
Maverick will remain a strong seller even if this joins the minitruck market. This will be twice the price of a base Maverick, before dealership markups.
Hybrid maverick will still be a deal that will win over this.
I'm all for Toyota making this, but will not sell my hybrid maverick for one
You haven't been paying attention. Hybrid sales are up and EV sales are starting to stagnate. The Maverick is selling like crazy because it checks the boxes people actually want. EVs are mostly still just novelties. 45 mpg in a pickup that costs less than $30,000 is not something this truck will be able to compete with...unless Toyota wises up and puts one of their proven hybrid drivetrains in this.
The only problem is Ford’s reliability is garbage either way most of there vehicles.
@@evankatz2893 except that the maverick exists on a proven platform with its transmission and reliable 2.0. Not at all uncommon for those 2.0 EBs to surpass 250k miles.
Long term maverick testing has shown they are reliable.
Just like Fords other trucks are more reliable than toyotas, which are blowing engines, failing transmissions and diffs brand new and catching on fire
I think it’s compact size (maverick) with a stretched wheelbase since it’s an EV with no trans and driveshaft.
Look beautiful especially the interior . i think this will be production really too because everything looks realistic
Next time stick the camera under it so we can check out the Powertrain configuration, suspension style, etc.!
I would be interested in an AWD version of it, but they would have to drastically improve the charging speed over what the BZ4X gets.
If this EPU comes to the states I guarantee I'm buying it. 100%. I love it. Just big enough bed I can haul stuff, electric, departure angle possibilities, commuter size not a giant useless peepee extender. I LOVE it!
Please, please buy it. Please......
Give us a HD Tundra Toyota!
I really hope Electric isn't the only option. Would totally by this in gas or hybrid.
Is it the form factor you like or the fact that it is a Toyota? Assuming you are in the USA, we have gas powered options at this size.
it all depends on price if this sales.
On a scale of Maverick to Santa Cruz this is closer to Santa Cruz in appearance. Judging from sales, probably not a good thing. The tailgate is supposed to flip open and then up to support longer loads resting on the wheel wells. Love the dash but the overlapping displays are just puzzling.
No worries it will sell like pan cakes. Because its a toyota. People buy that brand on perception and resale alone.
It's a Toyota, so it will sell.
Yeah. I know. I was just hoping that it would be something that I would like to buy.
Coming to a dealer near you 2035
Maybe
Full electric little truck by Toyota is an instant buy for me. Needs to be right around 40,000 though and awd. If it’s not then I hope they come out with a small hybrid with good mpg and awd, hopefully that would make it cheaper.
Clearly can't control throttle being so hung up on AWD
I own and love the Rivian R1T and this toyota EV truck looks competitive, especially with Toyota's offroad chops with vehicles like the tacoma and 4runner.
It's a car without a trunk lid.
Definitely think they should release a hybrid model. The speed of charging and total range when compared to hybrid still isn’t quite there yet. I imagine in 10 years or so electric cars will have 500+ miles of range on average but until then, hybrid is definitely the way to go.
Looks great!
Can they do a hybrid and EV Stout?
Hybrid would be really tough under that hood. Though a range extender Mazda rotary engine meant only to generate electricity could fit.
A compact EV truck starting around $40k before the $7500 tax credit would be a home run ⚾ I don't know why the Big 3 are bringing full-size EV 🔋 trucks to market ahead of smaller ones that the masses could actually afford.
Depending on the price, this would be a on my short list of EV's if I HAD to buy 1. And by "HAD to" I mean, if the idiots in power that be, outlawed ICE vehicles completely.
@WW… The idiots in power say “Hold my beer!”
The tail gate folds up not like the Chevy truck. So looks more like a bed extender
Wow, will Toyota make more than a dozen of these a year?
I really love the design, but this trend of fancy commuter trucks is just the dumbest thing ever to me as someone who NEEDS a small work truck with a proper 6ft bed and a price tag that makes sense. A truck is a tool for me, not a toy. A gigantic $50k full-size work truck with a gas-guzzling engine is overkill for my needs. A Stout-sized truck with a proper 6ft bed and 1,600lbs of payload capacity would suit my needs much better. Posers are ruining the truck market.
thank you for proving the ridiculousness of fundamentalism
@@nc3826 the fundamental reality that posers are ruining the truck market for people who genuinely need small work trucks?
It seems niche EV’s will be the thing rather than a mainstream vehicles for the masses. EV’s sales have slowed and EV trucks have stalled altogether. Guessing they will gauge down the road whether this will be a gas/gas hybrid as this is a ways from final production.
Honestly, EVs were only ever going to be a niche product. The grid and the available Rare Earth minerals simply cannot support an all EV fleet. It was always a pipe dream, sold to us by people eager for more government control of our lives and a quick buck at the expense of the taxpayer and consumer via CAFE standards and EV manufacturer grants.
This is true simply because Li-on is so expensive to mine. Battery packs will always cost more then a small block ICE. EV will continue to be a thing for wealthy middle class and rich. That is until they figure out a different source for power other then Li-on which will continue to be the bottle neck. But most oems have not shifted their price points to cater to the top 20 percent of the population. They do not want to offer low margin cars to the masses anymore.
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I want a hybrid under $30,000 pickup like Maverick. I don’t have a charger where I live so I don’t want an EV. I take several road trips a year and at this time, I don’t think the EV charging infrastructure and technology works well for long trips. If I could afford 2 vehicles I would commute to work in an EV and have an efficient hybrid vehicle for road trips. No way am I putting that much of my income into vehicles. I need one vehicle that works for me. The Maverick is currently what I’m looking to purchase in the next 18 months if the price stays around $30,000.
Hybrids are less efficient for road trips than ICE vehicles. the electric motor does basically nothing to help with freeway mileage, so you're just toting around a few hundred extra pounds for nothing. A hybrid is a good compromise between EV and ICE but you don't buy one as a second vehicle for road trips. You're right that the Maverick is probably your best bet as an all-in-one vehicle.
Last month I rented a Toyota Camry Hybrid and drove from Houston to Nashville and back. I averaged 43 MPG for that trip. Something makes that vehicle get that great milage.@@TheCharleseye
Toyota Tacoma hybrid comes out next year it’ll probably be like $32k so splurge the extra $2k cuz it’ll be worth it in reliability and it even comes standard with 4 wheel drive
@@Kylewraps tacomas are blowing up out of the factory while mavericks replace them on jobsites and in fleets. Buy a Maverick
Is there a rule at these shows that says you can't look underneath the vehicles? I always see reports with lots of specific but have never seen anyone get down and look underneath. That might have answered some of the questions asked in this video and might also have given more clues as to how production ready it could be.
Look at that short hood! Definitely dedicated EV. I can't see Toyota stuffing a hybrid or phev drivetrain in this, even though I think they should consider offering it in all 3 drivetrains. It would be great if this makes it into production and into the US market.
I love it!!! ❤ so cute but my 150 replacement needs to tow 5th a fiber glass fifthwheel
The compact electric truck is a HUGE hole in the American market. The first company to bring an affordable option will be overwhelmed by demand (including me!). I just can’t believe the big players have all started with huge, expensive offerings.
They would change it for the American market I’m sure!
here is a novel idea. Give us a small gas truck with a naturally aspirated engine. Crazy I know.
I was expecting the Stout to be hybrid, not fully electric. I believe everyone that wants an electric vehicle already has one. Until they can go 600 miles on a charge and charge in 15 minutes or less, I'm not purchasing one. I thought that the car companies had already realized that they are not selling but here they are still trying to shove one up my,,,,,,
That's where I'm at, too. I love the idea of electric pickups but they aren't ready for full-time yet. I'm anxious to see what the PHEV Gladiator and Ranger look like when they eventually get to the US
I’m 100% on Tommy’s team regarding the yokes
Everyone will hate it. Then everyone will hate they can’t get one.
As a current Hybrid Maverick owner I see several reasons why I would not be getting rid of my Maverick for this rig. First the proportions are all off, second it is only a BEV, and third I hate the yoke steering wheel!
I would leave it on Toyota lot.
Why don’t manufacturers get it through their minds that a considerable number of buyers want something affordable. It doesn’t have to be super luxurious and fancy.
I need to start investing in Toyota stock, they keep hitting it out of the park with these new vehicles lately.
If this is the Stout I believe I heard they will also have a Hybrid version. As long as both versions are under $40K, they will be a huge seller 👍
I'd buy one. Toyota reliability and a great design. I hope the ICE or hybrid Toyota stout looks like this.
nothing will be 30k anymore, those days r long gone
Yall don't think this 'concept' will become to the us as HEV and compete against the Maverick? Dimensions are pretty similar to Maverick. Just makes me think of December 2021 and the electric truck 'concept' they showed that turned out to be the 2024 ICE and HEV Tacoma. I think that's what's going to happen here.....
The new Honda Prelude and now the Stout….and crickets to me and most when mentioned they will be EV’s….. 💤 😴
EV's are the new marketing trick. To juice up the media and ESG investments, it has to lead with an EV. But in the end, the market will continue to demand ICE and hybrids.
As truck enthusiasts, I would have thought you would get a glimpse of the belly of that beast. Could have answered several of the questions that you posed, such as is it AWD, does it have skid plates, is it equipped with a hitch, does the spare tire mount under or inside of the bed, etc.
I like it, I would be a buyer for a 275 mile range small pickup. I don’t need AWD though, RWD single motor 180-220hp with 3000lbs towing and 1500lbs payload would be perfect.
You guys missed the large video that showed the EPU image in a simulated environment.
I think if people realized the battery replacement costs involved in these EV's some would think twice before buying. The new Ram EV truck has an estimated battery replacement cost of 25K! The average owner may not have to replace the batteries but it could have an impact on resale value.
Yes what the re sale value on a 10 year old ev. 5% of original msrp…
Why do you think you'll even need to replace your battery? Most new EVs have 8 year battery warranties and experts predict the batteries will outlive the vehicles in most cases. Battery tech has come a long way since the first gen Nissan Leaf!
@@UGABrother vehicles cost 50 to 70k so 8 years isn’t anything to brag about. Plus your huge investments will be completely worthless in a decade. Then there’s the software crapshoot that can render your vehicle useless. No thanks
Sir you are so right! This is the Rivian and Santa Cruz offspring!!!
Id rather have a Plug-in Hybrid vs EV version of this. If they want to market against the Maverick theyre going to have to sell these start at $40k and probably topping out around 60K for all the options. Ive been waiting to see what they do for the stout - wish the concept drawings were more accurate. The boxy look of the newer LC would have been fantastic to see here.
Yes they always seem to come in much higher then their projected costs. Li-on is the biggest reason as its a rare element and dirty/expensive to mine. Facts.
The Maverick is under $25,000 starting, and it's been highly successful. For Toyota to start at $40,000 and top out at $60,000, even if it's an EV with high range and rocket launchers, is just silly. The market does not demand that. People want CHEAP and simple trucks, nothing more.
Toyota is also touting their solid state battery again. They are claiming 3 times the energy density compared to current batteries. I'm skeptical at best.
Plug of hybrid is too expensive to produce that’s why it’s a rarity these days
Honda clarity for example is discontinued
@@AkioWasRight Comparing Ford products to Toyota is like comparing name brand to dollar store knock offs.
No offense but everybody has been expecting this as the Stout has been talked about for close to a year now.
If they did an extended cab version they could put a 6’ bed on it and it could actually be useful.
They need to make it like the Chevy where you can fold the back seat down. That would make it a 6 foot bed. Then use a tailgate cage or something to extend it to 8 feet. Boom, small truck that can also carry plywood when needed.
My Maverick has a 4.5' bed and can easily carry plywood. @@todddammit4628
@@todddammit4628 That is what they did! Except not quite like the Avalance, the window stays in place. It's only the bottom half of the midgate that opens. The Maverick and Santa Cruz are perfectly capable of carrying plywood anyway though.
Add a lid on the bed and call it what it is, a sedan. It certainly is not a pickup truck.
I’ll be honest, it’s UGLY 😅. I really don’t think tommy would like it that much if it didn’t have a Toyota badge on it. Just my opinion though.
Why are these not hybrid? Do people in Cities in Asia and Europe have access to charging everywhere?
New Toyota truck nobody was expecting, and nobody wants !
They should make a HD Truck
I love it. The snub nose front end reminds me of my 2nd gen Tundra. 300+ miles range and a steering wheel, I’d buy it in a heart beat.
"of course it's electric, and how do we know that" .........because it's ugly af. 😆😆
80s 90s throwback PLEASE !
All mechanical, no computers.
Love it! Hope it will have the long solid-state battery range, vented seats, and a mid-gate for under $30k.
It will have a good range
Toyota said like 6 months ago or maybe longer that their range in the EV game will be like double of current competitors so proabbly a 550-650 mile range I’m guessing
@@Kylewraps I'm weirdly skeptical even though I shouldn't be. I assumed Tesla would have already been talking about their answer to such a long range vehicle. 2026 is definitely going to be the year EV adoption explodes.
@@ScottOstr yea EV haters will suddenly have nothing to reach for in their anti - EV arguments
Except for the “oh the grid can’t handle it” like bro the grid will be expanded and if you’re worried just put solar panels on your house with what you’ll save in gas
Ok, slightly less disinteresting than most EVs....
Toyota needs a turbodiesel HD Tundra
If they want to sell a lot of this truck in today's market, it needs to at least have a hybrid version & not 100% electric. As far as the tailgate goes(I'm just guessing), maybe the top part of the tailgate(with the tailgate down) might be propped up as an end brace to extend the bed length? Love the look of the truck though.
The reason i didn't buy the Santa cruz because of the stout... this truck is even better!
I just dont see the appeal of those type of "pick ups".
Most people don't need a truck, that size bed will suit the actual needs of almost all truck owners or perspective buyers.
Pavement Princesses and Soccer Moms love it
Yah, it doesn't make sense to have a tiny cargo space unsecured and exposed to the elements to haul small items. Most would be better off with a suv/cuv type of vehicle where the cargo space is protected.
Looks like the tailgate flap is just to cover the gap between the bed and tailgate when you lower it?
Maybe with 4 cylinder diesel..
U.S market had small compact trucks and some people complained being too small. Now , they want one smaller and cheaper.
First the new “Land Cruiser”, now this. Toyota hates us don’t they?
Wtf do you mean bro? The Land Cruiser is great, and this is even better
@@Bluebottlenose They’re both plastic cars, not trucks. They’re perfect for urban dwellers I suppose. If you hit a deer out in the country with these plastic excuses for trucks, they’ll get totaled. A 5mph fender bender will be game over for these.
@@PAExplorationIf you hit a deer with any full size truck, it's probably getting totalled. My contractor literally just hit one at 40mph in his 22 sierra HD and it was totalled out. Even damaged the engine.
@@mattpike7268 Yeah, no joke, everything is plastic now, even the full size trucks, it’s pathetic. $10k if you bump into something and you have to go to the dealership for everything. I refuse to be part of that, I’ll stick with my old F-250 with solid steel bumpers
@@PAExploration you'll have to switch at some point, or you'll be sacrificing real use for feelings lol. Keep that older truck as long as you can, but don't compromise on reliability/ wear.
If it's built using traditional Toyota Build processes then Yes. If it was built following Tesla's Model of Stamped Unibody construction that is Unrepairable and parts will cost a fortune then NO. Will it follow in Ford's footsteps so that if a there is a slight leak or damage to the vehicle that the repair will cause it to be Totaled by the Insurance companies, just like in the water in the tail lamp videos? At the end of the day, Toyota is known for it's hard working, simple to repair and reliable trucks so this one will have to prove it's metal before anyone clicks the "buy it now" button.