Right? They had a man with a whole spiderweb of plans and plots just all of a sudden act sloppy af and start plot vomiting at everyone he came in contact with. Made no damn sense.
Gossip was part of it but not all of it. Gossip is the talk that floats from person to person freely and takes very little skill to find out what the people are saying. The true skill for the Master of Whisperers was to find out what people said in whispers, the secrets that were only shared behind closed doors, and all of the plots and plans of far more importance than the generic rumour mill. The Master of Whisperers is the ultimate spy master.
Which is the corner stone of espionage. Louis XIV kept his court under control through it. When in power, especially of you rely in a royalty like scheme of power, knowing what "the greats" think, do and plan to do is the best way to remain in power.
Varys could have used his network of little birds to spread throughout the kingdoms Jon's true parentage instead of keeping the info to themselves in season 8. The issue of Jon being a Targaryen was put aside after they killed Varys.
I agree that he is an amazing actor but I don't think he would be right for Maegor. In the books Maegor comes off like the Mountain, a huge brute of a man that is completely unhinged. Mads is very thin and generally gives off a vibe of sophistication in every role and Maegor was anything but. Lol
I feel that a lot of mysaria's actions were based on her anger and pain of losing her child. She loved daemon and the 2 clearly wanted and loved that child. A big part of her cruelty towards king viserys' children ( including rhaenyra ) was probably her pain over her lost child.
HBO did all the GOT you tubers dirty, I remember watching all the lore I could online until the last few episode of the final season. This is the first thing GOT Related I’ve watched since
I don't understand why they chose this look for Mysaria in HOTD: she was supposed to be a lysene (so Targaryen-looking) with skin pale as milk so much so that she was dubbed the White Worm
@Insignatious Honestly I don't mind too much. I think a little bit of diversity never really hurts that much. The fact that Valyrians are depicted as culturally/genetically superior and are literally pastry white is kinda worrying.
Really got addicted to your channel. Very good stuff. Been watching the map videos lately and have an idea. Could you do a map of Arya Stark's chronological journey through the series? Curious as to how many miles she traveled.
I'd say bloodraven. He has magic targ blood, as well as being able to use other dark magics. He's the only master of whispers to stop a full on revolt on the crown by essentially doing nothing
@@nawmedia435 Interesting. We have to remember Daeron & Aerys gave bloodraven more ruling power by far than the other 2 ever got. It’s true Larys & Varys never really employed the outright intimidation of political enemies that Rivers used against Blackfyres & malcontents.
In the first season Maester Aemon told Jon that his father was Maekar, and his brother Aegon reign after him and was succeeded by his son Aerys whom they called the Mad King. But when i learn about the Targaryen family tree, i notice that the mad king's father was Jaehaerys II. So, can anyone explain this ?? 🤔
I guess in the first series of a TV show it would be too confusing for most new fans. Even after simplifying it I think a lot of people didn't really understand the links or who he was
I feel like they should do both. Some roles are different than that of what a spy master would do or a master of whispers. Bc i feel like the spy master actually are spies and themselves know the information. Master of whispers just have spies or hear gossip and tell the king
Can you pls do a video on exactly what Benjen Stark was? I never totally understood. Is he undead? Half dead? How did he get that way and why didn't he die all the way, etc. Help! :)
I would argue meagor was the legitimate king .his mother was the first wife his older brother is the son of the second wife . Meagor comes first. He wasn't the preferred heir but definitely the rightful one . Being younger is irrelevant in this situation and his brother would technically be illegitimate as the child of a second wife while the first is living. Remember this is before targaryon exceptionalism. ( which is very convenient)
Aegon married both of them at the same time, there wasn't a second or first wife. not to mention that being the firstborn is what's relevant, and Aenys was born before Maegor.
@@iggy1296 no you will find visenya was first married then her sister. It might be the Same ceremony but visenya was first and the queen. This is an exemption to the elder brother . In a second wife situation or a polygamous situation the son of the first wife takes presidence .
@@WERTYUIO821 There are also rumors that Rhaenys was very familiar with her favor and took musicians and other fine folk into her bed. The irony that we will never know to be true is that both of Aegon's sons could be the bastards of his beloved sister-wives.
Varys used a megaphone to tell Daenerys 'I'm doing a treason' in the last season of GoT.
Homie done snitched on himself! How can someone do that?? 😂😂
Right? They had a man with a whole spiderweb of plans and plots just all of a sudden act sloppy af and start plot vomiting at everyone he came in contact with. Made no damn sense.
He wanted to die, he realised he had dementia or something so he peaced out
His plotline was butchered by the show because they didn't include (f)Aegon
They didn't know what to do with him anymore
My man LITERALLY did it broad day light.
I like how the job of master of wisperers is just glorified gossiping
Gossips rule the world. 🙂
Gossip was part of it but not all of it. Gossip is the talk that floats from person to person freely and takes very little skill to find out what the people are saying. The true skill for the Master of Whisperers was to find out what people said in whispers, the secrets that were only shared behind closed doors, and all of the plots and plans of far more importance than the generic rumour mill. The Master of Whisperers is the ultimate spy master.
Which is the corner stone of espionage. Louis XIV kept his court under control through it. When in power, especially of you rely in a royalty like scheme of power, knowing what "the greats" think, do and plan to do is the best way to remain in power.
At least it sounds cool
That's what spying is.
If i had a master of whispers I'd have them find out what's the hold up on Winds.
I'd also ask them if A Dream of Spring is just a myth
Preach it
Varys could have used his network of little birds to spread throughout the kingdoms Jon's true parentage instead of keeping the info to themselves in season 8. The issue of Jon being a Targaryen was put aside after they killed Varys.
Cool nicknames make it more fun
Hello
Yes bro like The Spider 🕷️ Lord Varys
@@hitesheditz9 stop being cringey
@@Mr-po3fu who are u?
The goat is truly a title Brynden Rivers deserve
Mads Mikkelsen Would be the Perfect Choice To Play “ Maegor The Cruel “
I agree that he is an amazing actor but I don't think he would be right for Maegor. In the books Maegor comes off like the Mountain, a huge brute of a man that is completely unhinged. Mads is very thin and generally gives off a vibe of sophistication in every role and Maegor was anything but. Lol
Mads mikkelson could perfectly play anything between Willy Wonka to Peter Pan to Maegor the Cruel
too old, not to mention that an important part of Maegor's character is his physicallity and Mads is tiny.
mads would make a better greyjoy than a targaryen tbh
If not for the accent he'd make a great young Tywin IMO
I was gonna request this, glad you beat me to it. Such an overlooked and underrated position on the Small Council.👌🏾
The three eye raven's name was Brynden not Brandon
"My uncle's name is Brynden!"
No shit Blandon Stark!
I feel that a lot of mysaria's actions were based on her anger and pain of losing her child. She loved daemon and the 2 clearly wanted and loved that child. A big part of her cruelty towards king viserys' children ( including rhaenyra ) was probably her pain over her lost child.
The first Chick was nothing but the Wendy Williams of Westeros lol
HBO did all the GOT you tubers dirty, I remember watching all the lore I could online until the last few episode of the final season. This is the first thing GOT Related I’ve watched since
Right it’s like they purged all game of thrones video
@@aengusog3415 lol I watch GOT video's on YT everyday lol Alt Shwift X RULES!
Who else has been binging Games of Thrones videos after the House of the Dragon Trailer?
Ive been binging on them since this series ended 2 years ago, I dont go a day without watching GOT lol
I don't understand why they chose this look for Mysaria in HOTD: she was supposed to be a lysene (so Targaryen-looking) with skin pale as milk so much so that she was dubbed the White Worm
@Insignatious i mean tv casuals would get confused and start talking nonsense so i understand why they did it
@Insignatious true
@Insignatious Honestly I don't mind too much. I think a little bit of diversity never really hurts that much.
The fact that Valyrians are depicted as culturally/genetically superior and are literally pastry white is kinda worrying.
@Insignatious yeah but too much golden silver wig
@@PanzerIVAE lol it's fictional...
I know you do other things other than asoiaf but can you do a video on burial rituals and funerals? And maybe biggest exports?
Such a cool video man
Really got addicted to your channel. Very good stuff.
Been watching the map videos lately and have an idea.
Could you do a map of Arya Stark's chronological journey through the series? Curious as to how many miles she traveled.
Love your content!
Ah yes, I too am a damn good croissant
Can you do an in depth video on cregan stark he was badass.
Great video, can you do a video on every small council position
Varys betrayed me 💥🔥🐲
Muh queen
i dont want it
They deserve to be burned
I wonder who was most effective between Larys Strong, Bloodraven, or Varys. These must be the 3 most powerful spymasters the throne ever employed
I'd say bloodraven. He has magic targ blood, as well as being able to use other dark magics. He's the only master of whispers to stop a full on revolt on the crown by essentially doing nothing
@@nawmedia435 Interesting. We have to remember Daeron & Aerys gave bloodraven more ruling power by far than the other 2 ever got. It’s true Larys & Varys never really employed the outright intimidation of political enemies that Rivers used against Blackfyres & malcontents.
In the first season Maester Aemon told Jon that his father was Maekar, and his brother Aegon reign after him and was succeeded by his son Aerys whom they called the Mad King.
But when i learn about the Targaryen family tree, i notice that the mad king's father was Jaehaerys II. So, can anyone explain this ?? 🤔
It was a change the show made. Possibly to simplify the family tree
I guess in the first series of a TV show it would be too confusing for most new fans. Even after simplifying it I think a lot of people didn't really understand the links or who he was
Or they simply "kinda forgot".
Varys did Not cut or have any tongues cut out. The only error. Love your analysis
Mysaria in the show is pretty hot
Shouldn't there be like a secret police like the stazi or kgb?
Little birds don't count
Thanks
Weird question but will you ever make a video where you show your face? I really love your videos btw
Gay...
@@ccdsds3221 And?
More small council positions
YES
in the House of the dragons serie I hope they sow us more of esos
IIRC there is a theory that Quaithe is Mysaria right?
are you saying courtesan?
Brynden the Basedraven
Spy Master or Master of Whispers? Both are great titles!!
I feel like they should do both. Some roles are different than that of what a spy master would do or a master of whispers. Bc i feel like the spy master actually are spies and themselves know the information. Master of whispers just have spies or hear gossip and tell the king
Arya would be an awesome Mistress of Whispers bevause she has that ability to rip off faces and disguise herself as anyone
He turned Dany crazy. He was poisoning her at the end. That’s why she lost it in the end.
Littlefinger please
Thy Goat
I thought this said monster of whispers!! Loll
Who's the girl in thumbnail?
Mysaria
Lord Varys is best ever Master of Whisperers, Best Manipulator, Clever and the one who always had the great intentions for the realm
Best whisperer is actually the breast-plate stretcher
Eh...
If you are taking about the show then yes but in the books, Varys has ulterior motives
I personally think that it was bloodraven
Hate how the show just disregarded Varys plot in the end, just did nothing with it lol
Lyras sounds so much like Varys.....
Why are the subtitles in Japanese 😥
why only japan subtitle? English is very needed here :(
gomen-nasai
Can you pls do a video on exactly what Benjen Stark was? I never totally understood. Is he undead? Half dead? How did he get that way and why didn't he die all the way, etc. Help! :)
I'm calling Khaleesi
✌
WC!!!
nobody cares anymore about GOT lore since they made a giant mockery of it all in the last 2 seasons.
I almost hate to ruin your cynicism and tell you that there is a very popular book series.
I would argue meagor was the legitimate king .his mother was the first wife his older brother is the son of the second wife . Meagor comes first. He wasn't the preferred heir but definitely the rightful one . Being younger is irrelevant in this situation and his brother would technically be illegitimate as the child of a second wife while the first is living. Remember this is before targaryon exceptionalism. ( which is very convenient)
Aegon married both of them at the same time, there wasn't a second or first wife. not to mention that being the firstborn is what's relevant, and Aenys was born before Maegor.
There were also the rumours that Maegor wasn't conceived ths normal way. Rather than Visenya using bloodmagic to give birth to Aegon's child.
@@iggy1296 no you will find visenya was first married then her sister. It might be the Same ceremony but visenya was first and the queen. This is an exemption to the elder brother . In a second wife situation or a polygamous situation the son of the first wife takes presidence .
@@WERTYUIO821 There are also rumors that Rhaenys was very familiar with her favor and took musicians and other fine folk into her bed. The irony that we will never know to be true is that both of Aegon's sons could be the bastards of his beloved sister-wives.
Varys......
First
Jesus, is English your first language? You were struggling with pronouncing a lot of that.