@@Me-qp8vz let me correct you, renly was more of a queen than stannis as shown when he was getting his back blown out by loras just as chad king robert was clapping queen cercei cheeks. Stannis is the true king and heir to the throne by right and all those who wont bend their knees will die. Ofc renly being a good queen loves being on his knees.
Stannis don't you worry. The fanbase will be your Kingsguard.We will keep you alive and protect you from George Martin the Starkslayer. You will not die like the other characters.We will figth and die for Davos and Stannis the Mannis the one true king. EDIT :THERE ARE ALREADY FORTY- SEVEN OF US. EDIT 2: SEVENTY EDIT 3: 170 EDIT 4: 360 EDIT 5: 500
@@kaloyanmanchev6613 Can you explain to me why people fanboy over Stannis? I think it is obvious that he is a false azor ahai and will likely not be the one who ends up on the Iron Throne. I think I will likely be either Aegon VI, Daenerys (possibly both of them) or a revived Jon Snow (if R+L = J ends up happening in the books).
Well, there are two factors that leave Stannis without a formal Kingsguard. The first being that there are not enough great knights in his service and those from the houses of the Narrow Sea and the Florents don’t deserve the white cloak. The second being that, like Renly leaving a spot for Selmy, Stannis wants to leave the opportunity for when he takes the throne and the he will have knights of actual standing pledged to him. Though Stannis probably wouldn’t trust them and rightly so. I think Stannis would have named Davos his only Kingsguard if he thought it was an option.
Who said there will be seven? Number seven means nothing for R'hllor followers. Stannis may establish his own rules with kingsguards, just to break with faith of seven.
The vast majority of Westeros follows the Seven, and the faith has become much more powerful thanks to Cersei's actions. And unlike Maegor, Stannis doesn't have a dragon to just one-hit-no-scope them all while they're in a sept.
@@nealfirstofhisname You make a good point in that the Faith is almost the strongest it's ever been since the Conquest, but we have seen that Stannis has no tolerance for the Seven against the Lord of Light (i.e., burning all of the statues in ACoK). Yes, he lets some of his men keep the faith. But this is only because 1.) he wouldn't have an army if he only had R'hllor followers and 2.) he doesn't care about religion himself nor what religion his men follow. I don't think Stannis ever does get the Iron Throne, but if he did he would fully support the Lord of Light and it would create a huge conflict with the Seven. The Battle of the Blackwater only gave credence to the Lord of Light after Melisandre's absence is seen as a giant contributor to the outcome in Stannis's eyes. An interesting development that I'm afraid we'll never see either way.
To be fair going of the war of t(e roses the events the shows based off The yorks eventurly removed the queen regeant and her crual son from the throne killing the son and imprisoning the mother gaining power the york king edward takes the throne He ruled for while till his death when his brother claimed the children of edward were illigitamet and took the throne himself becoming a tyrant and hid away the princess He thought no one could beat his claim now till he ry tudor showed up , henry tudor was a banished descendent lf the lancasters sound familair literaly a targarian Leading an army henry took the throne and found the princess daughter of edward and married her uniting the two waring families it could go many ways based on the twists gr martin gives , but a targarian is likely to win in some copacity
When stannis beats the Frey’s at the battle of ice (which I believe will happen) stannis will have about 10K men with his combined forces of southerners and northmen, and that’s against the realm and only if he gets Rickon back, Tywin is dead so he just has to worry about Randal Tarly but he’s pretty formidable as a commander, stannis could win if he frees the river lands in the name of Rickon but with 10K men it’ll be a little hard/impossible to win
Im pretty intrigued too because by the time Stannis defeats the Freys and Boltons, Faegon will have already been marching on Kingslanding and the Tyrell army led by Randal Tarly will be heading his way. So Stannis having around 10,000 men and marching south would be an upset and he could potentially gain allies in the Riverlands and Vale. I don't think he is an endgame character so I wonder how he dies. A sad ending for him I could imagine is that before he has a chance to march south, something big happens with the north. Maybe the Others finally cross the wall and Stannis is essentially the first King to meet them in battle and dies in the process and Jon takes up his mantle to gather everyone to fight them. I prefer this ending because Stannis goes out as being the King who saw the bigger threat to humanity and unfortunately is the first to die
You forget that Stannis is working together with the wildlings, at least Mance. There's still about 100 000 wildlings alive, and while only a portion are men capable of fighting, they are the most experienced group for winter warfare in all of Westeros. And Stannis might be building an alliance with the ironborn at the moment.
@@arvaakuka8568 like you said only a portion of them are men and not to mention that a great portion of those men were killed when stannis cavalry charged into them while Jon was having peace talks so if there were about 25K men (which seems reasonable and I got this number by using a population sorting methods historians use to determine how many people fought in migratory battles in our real world history) so now let’s say there’s 15K men many of which hate stannis at the moment and have had to join the watch, even still wildlings are ferocious but can’t compete with an actual organized southern army as we’ve seen every time the wildlings raided south and the starks and umbers destroyed them
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 Yeah with winter fully coming down on the North, I just don't see Stannis making it out. It doesn't matter what he promises them, most Northern Lords won't be willing to march South with Stannis in the snows of winter, especially knowing that 100,000 wildlings have been let through the Wall. The harder the terrain, the more the wildlings have the advantage. To leave their lands almost undefended on top of that would be too much. Stannis' only chance would be to use the Manderlys new fleet to sail south. And by the time he got there, most southern lords would have pledged to Faegon since Cersei has alienated every major ally, and they need help from someone to face Euron. And if Dragonstone really has been taken, he won't have a base of operations. Stannis really has nowhere to go after Winterfell. It's possible he'd still try to go, since he stands to be far more effective in the fight against the Others if he is king and can march the full might of Westeros to the North. And he needs to regain access to his obsidian mines on Dragonstone. I get the feeling Stannis' final battles will be against the Vale. Littlefinger intends to create a triple claim to the Vale, the North and the Riverlands through Sansa's marriage to Harry the heir, and if Rickon comes under Stannis' protection, that will be an inconvenience. Baelish will claim that this isn't truly Rickon, since it's believed Theon killed Bran and Rickon. And it fits thematically for Baelish to be the one to finish off Stannis, similar to how he was crucial to the downfall of Ned Stark. Baelish and Ned represented the best and words sides of the human race, showing how human greed destroys the good humanity could do. Stannis is similar. Yes he's far darker than Ned but ultimately he is still a very righteous character who stands to be one of the biggest assets to humanity's survival. Baelish killing Stannis would be on theme for human greed being self sabotaging. And it's also on theme for the political mastermind to destroy the military genius. I think as Stannis sails South, Baelish's forces will kill him and he'll try to absorb most of Stannis' army, then use the combined forces to try and take over the Riverlands. Although it's possible Baelish would want Stannis to make it back to the south in order to ensure more chaos to weaken all sides. So he might actually make an alliance with him to help retake Dragonstone, but also to have men close enough to Stannis to kill him when it's convenient.
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 a lot of people believe stannis will die fighting the white walkers and so do I partially but I just can’t imagine him dying, I feel like when he’s actually corned by people in person he’ll cut through them like carving a cake (shoe reference) and be pissed while doing it, I see stannis braking in every situation we’re death is nearby rather than submitting in any way, just like Noy said, if stannis dies, he’ll die fighting, same goes for Jaime even if he has one hand now
3:02 Renly was the lord of the Stormlands, the Stormlanders were his vassals and owed him fealty, even though Stannis was the rightful king. Stannis himself followed Robert Baratheon, the lord of the Stormlands, over Aerys Targaryen, the king, during Robert's rebellion, so punishing the Stormlanders for having followed Renly would be hypocritical and very unwise.
@@alanbloch9924 This is another example of conflicting oaths, which the books are filled with. The Jaime dilemma. To king Aerys Targaryen (the king of the Seven Kingdoms) or to Lord Robert Baratheon (the lord of the Stormlands and his brother and family).
The thing isn’t just that Robert was his brother, but that he was the head of his house. When weighing up all the oaths it’s clear Stannis would have viewed that as the strongest duty, to follow the head of his house rather than his king.
"The Fury is Ours!" Love me some B's. The cut and dry attitude. This is that, and that is this. No matter what. If it's raining, don't try to convince him that it is just a drizzle.
Well that's great for Stannis then, seeing as Melisandre is all on that "Stannis is the chosen one" kool aid, granted, given the clues that she'll sacrifice Shireen for Stannis to win and later revive Jon Snow (This would include clues in story, and the fact that GRRM straight up told D&D that 3 plot points in the books will be that Shireen is sacrificed and currently Shireen is with Melisandre far away fro Stannis's protection, and Jon Snow kills Daenerys meaning Jon Snow will have to be brought back to life), that might cause some problems if she realizes "Oh, actually the chosen one is Jon Snow" and then puts together that Stannis, the not so chosen one, is gonna be pissed once he figures out what she's done to his daughter, but Jon Snow is in good terms with Stannis so that would HOPEFULLY keep Melisandre from doing anything to harm the Mannis
I think there's two main reasons he hasn't appointed any Kingsguards. Firstly, it's a major reward he can dangle in front of his followers, encouraging loyalty. And he has a decent enough excuse to not have any appointed yet since he doesn't hold the Iron Throne. He can hold out that carrot almost indefinitely. Secondly, I suspect Stannis does not actually want to make any of his current close supporters Kingsguard. He knows full well how much of a joke the Kingsguard of today is compared to what came before. I expect he would want to restore the prestige they had in the past, only having men who respect the rules of law and honour, and having all of them on a skill level on par with Jaime Lannister and Loras Tyrell at the worst. An additional minor reason would be that while he may have a couple of candidates he deems suitable for his Kingsguard (although maybe not skilled enough), those same candidates could serve better in other areas, such as powerful lords or members of his small council.
Kingsguard is for kigs. If Stannis gets one that would make him look more legitimate for the throne. But Stannis the Mannis simply doesn't not need to prove anyone that he is the rigthful king. Also he just doesn't have the best knigths. But he will always be the one true king .
Stannis is a general, a commander, a soldier. I always thought he considered all his men (most likely his men from dragon stone that did not stay behind in the garrison) as his guard. Furthermore I think he felt it a formality (considering his soldiers were his guard in his mind in my opinion), and something only to be done once he sat on the throne itself.
We all know that Stannis is smart . So smart that I am sure that he will make Hot Pie the lord commander of the Kingsguard.We all know Hot Pie deserves recognition.
I feel Rolland Storm is more likely to get his family former land. Mostly of his male family members perished in war of the five Kings. Their land were subsequently given to a Lannister loyalist.
lol My favorite part about Dany doing that is that she ensured that her entire khalasar, all her Dothraki followers, would die with her, as all bloodriders do; she engineered the first sui-genocide. And then, the Unsullied who survived went to Naath, fated to die from the butterfly fever, meaning all her followers from Essos were either killed or died shortly after her own death.
@@AzorAhaiReborn Assuming that they are different Dothraki that keep spawning like Lannister soldiers, without end, then what we have is a never-ending khalasar constantly and forever bound to suicide...
@@edwinsoto6932 my headcanon is that the dothraki kept reproducing in a super speed, factory-like fashion (so the ones we see passing by the same pier everyone is at the finale were born in westeros and already reached maturity, therefore are not bound to Dany's pact and so they can integrate in absolute peace). the unsullied however didn't pick the optimal route to get that upgrade, so they spent all their technology points on a basic mitosis perk that, unfortunately, won't be enough to save them from the butterflies :(
I think one interesting but unlikely idea is that stannis might recruit some knights from the night's watch. There are plenty of skilled warriors, and via his offer to jon we can see that he's willing to take members from them
Even though Ser Godry is vain and full of proud boast, he's one of my favorite knights In the kings retinue. I also can't wait to Ser Richard Horpe get busy against some Boltons and Freys. Also a single combat duel between Ser Hosteen Frey and Ser Godry would be stellar
Could u make a complete history of The Mad King and Queen Rhaella children unborn and lived? their generation is the Doom of the Targaryens in westeros so cool
I've actually been writing a fanfic for the past year or so - a modern meets medieval asoiaf fic where a strange portal opens up between Westeros and the modern world. Not to spoil everything but Stannis basically wins the equivalent of the Battle of Blackwater and several chapters focus around choosing a new Kingsguard. Events unfold differently and he ends up retaining Barristan Selmy and Mandon Moore from Robert's Seven. New kingsguard include Godry Farring and Richard Horpe (mentioned here). After that he chooses several individuals from around the kingdoms for various reasons, including Damon Paege (from the Riverlands), Donnel Locke (from the North) and Tallad the Tall (a hedge knight). Look up 'A Song of Guns, Germs and Steel' to read more!
Have read your fanfiction and I’ve got to say, yours is definitely one of the best Asoiaf fanfictions out there. Looking forward for the future chapters.
Stannis already has king's guard except they were usurped by bastards born of incest. Just like the iron throne Tommen sits on the king's guard that protects Tommen is also rightfully Stannis' so I'm sure he plans to deal with the king's guard when he takes the throne. Perhaps kill and replace some and perhaps keep any that are honorably captured like when Robert spared Selmy and kept him as the head of the king's guard. Also, appointing king's guard before you have secured your kingdom may be the kind of pretentious display Renly would pull but Stannis would see as an indulgence.
the problem is the only one whose any good is Balon Swann and as a stormlander who sided with Joffrey on day 1, that's going to discredit him. Right now the KG is Jaime, nope Loras, NOPE the reanimated Mountain, hahaha no Ser Balon Swann, mentioned above Ser Boros Blunt, HA NO Ser Meryn Trant, a pretty clear lannister loyalist and a Kettleblack I say cleaning house is overdue
I think part of it is that he is not formally installed, so does not have “pick of the litter” and doesn’t want to assemble a meagre or “ridiculous” kingsguard (as he regarded renlys rainbow guard) its part of the pomp of being king and ruler, to him its like wearing a crown too, its not something thats done until the position is secure/ he is coronated.
I think he also thinks the current kingsguard is rightfully his, he will sort that out and continue it to his kingsguard to secure legitimacy, just like robert did
Interesting thoughts here. I like the Hand speculation. Of course, I think Stannis has been planing to bend to Aegon VI since Robert's death 😉. You're anaysis is pretty good. I bet I could convince you.
7 kingdoms, 7 gods, 7 kingsguards... but Stannis believes in (or at least pays lip service to) only one god, and will not recognise sovereignty of kingdoms within his one realm, so he only gets one kingsguard, only one person who's been a loyal and trusted defender of his person and his cause from the start, and that's Davos.
Stannis is Robert’s heir. Once his brother died, the kingdom along with the current Kingsguard passed on to him. Since he’s no illegitimate pretender he has no need for forming a new group of Kingsguard.
I would assume his Kingsguard would have been the Kingsguard that switched to him after Renly's death since one is a Tyrell prisoner and 2 were killed at the Blackwater unless they were with the Tyrells. Also Loras was in his Rainbow Guard right, seems like he'd be Green
Robert didn't make a King's Guard during his rebellion. I think Stannis would be the kind of the king that see's naming a king's guard of the seven kingdoms as something one does from the iron throne. It's the right of the king. You have to actually have the throne to your back before you can swear a knight to the your guard.
The other claimants aren't swearing their people in as Kingsguard yet. They're just picking 7 designated people to swear in once (if) they finally win the war. And honestly Robert's method was pretty stupid since he tended to pick incompetent people for his Kingsguard. Arys Oakheart and Mandon Moore are the two people he picked who were worthy to be one, the rest are clowns especially Blount.
Rolland Storm is the next line for the seat of House Caron. Richard Horpe will probably be Lord Commander. Cersei denied Richard being a member of the King's Guard because Cersei distrusted him. Justin is slowly losing his faith in the Red god. He wants Asha as his wife.
Why are people saying the kingsguard relates to the seven? It was origninated by Rhaenyra and she was more inspired by the night's watch than the faith of the seven. Maybe the amount there is was lifted from the seven but it is not a practice that inherently came from the religion
Theatrics is half a cause. Winning people to your side is often about symbolism, charisma, and pagentry. Keeping them is about wisdom, strength, and stability. This is ultimately Stannis's greatest problem (and weakness). His cause is cloaked in the Symbolism of the Red Faith which many Westeros don't trust and in the North, he had to swear to several lords not to allow his Red Faith followers to fuck with their godswoods. Stannis, by his own admission, does not have the charisma of his brother Robert who could beat a rival in the morning and win their support at the dining table in the evening (something Robert did repeatedly in his quest for the Throne and Aegon the Conquerer earlier on). And Stannis's hatred for pagentry makes him hard for him to ride into a town and win the support of the people. Though I would argue that as long Stannis can keep control of his Red Faith waazos, he should be able to deliver on the Keeping them skills. Stannis's use of the Red Faith and Mel's powers is ultimately a double edged sword. It turned the most Westeros, most legitimate, most honorable claimant of the Iron Throne into something of a (in the eyes of the people and potential allies) a fiery crusdaer of an alien faith.
There’s a theory that Loras didn’t actually do that and instead he went to fight the ironborn with the fleet he was given to assault dragon stone since his brother Garland is building up troops to fight them in the reach, also this would mean that Loras can’t defend Cersie in her trial so she has to count on Boros Blount or Meryn trant 2 fighters who could be easily killed at this point in the story, plus the details of the siege don’t make sense especially for what Loras dies during it
Stannis just doesn’t care isn’t it ?!? The man is just doing what he has to do cuz it’s how it’s supposed to happen. I’ll bring about a kingsguard when it is required
I kinda feel Stannis is not even Intrested in being King anymore he's just doing his duty like he did with his wife and might vacate the crown if Danny or Ageon might treat him with respect
Stannis is Pure Iron. He'd break before he'd bend. Stannis would may not want the crown but it is his by right as it is demanded by both law and his duty. And knowing Stannis, he'd do his duty. His claim is legitimized by his brother Robert's Usurpation of Aegon and Dany's House of Targaryen. The very reason why the Barratheons became kings. Stannis would never parlay with any Targaryen. He'll break and fall before he'd bend.
@@dgrmn12345 Not exactly both Danereys and Aegon are also within there rights for Iron throne Robert never ended the Targs so considering Stannis was master of laws he must be well acquainted with it and if Long night made Stannis respect Danny and Aegon he might vacate his claim and I feel Stannis is not really Pure Iron as Donal Noye has said he's more or Stubborn steel especially DwD Stannis so I can see him bending if he get respect and a worthy Title that's if he survived the long night
@@shashankdwivedi5694 as Tyrion stated, "Stannis's legitimacy as king is based on the illegitimacy of yours (Dany)" Stannis may not share the hatred Robert has for the Targeryens but he still would not allow a Targaryen to sit on the throne. To Stannis, none of it was personal. Only business. And being a King for him is business and it was his by law. A law that extends itself to Aegon and Dany who legitimately "lost" their claim after Robert Usurped them from the Throne and Westeros. Under the Baratheon's rule and by law, the Targaryens under Dany and Aegon are foreign invaders. Stannis's view in duty is absolute as shown when he was quick to call Robb Stark a rebel and a traitor for calling himself King despite the Boy's father, Ned Stark, telling Stannis of the Cersei's bastards and naming Stannis as the Heir. And how he respected Jaime enough to call him 'Ser' and a knight despite his obvious disdain for the man for both incest and kingslaying He'd accept and rewards turncloaks, criminals, and mercenaries to his ranks but only for a price, as shown when Davos, a criminal smuggler, paid with his finger joints but in turn rewards him with a knighthood. Robert was pure steel. Able to bend around rules so people would love him whilst able to be hard on his enemies thus making them fear him. Stannis is pure iron or raw steel. Hard. Cold. Immovable. That is his character. His death in the show (though entirely terrible) represents his character in its entirety. Dutiful to the end even in the face of death.
@@dgrmn12345 But there is a thing about Raw steel it can be bent at certain temperature and Stannis has bent many time in this story 1st when he accepted mel because of her usefulness even though half of his army fears her and most of lords hate her. 2nd when he decided to go to wall on Mel's insistence. 3rd when Jon snow decided to reject his proposal to make him legimate and still listened his counsel because he has come to respect him. 4th when he decided to go with northern clan rather than wildling and change his plan of attack because of jon and If Mel is as pious as she shows herself to be she will convince Stannis to make common cause with Dragons and I know Stannis will object their right to throne but If they earn his respect he's ready to make some tweaking in his mindset as shown in past also I find it hard believing that Stannis will survive to end of long night his character gives that "all done for naught vibes" like Ned,Rob and Danny(maybe)
There is a decent argument that Stannis (and Robert before him) has a stronger claim to the throne than Dany as a male Targaryen descendant. The royal prioritization of male heirs over female heirs is such that when Baelor died, his uncle Viserys II became king over the late king's daughters, apparently without a Great Council, based merely on precedent. That succession thus became further precedent, and the implications for the present is that Stannis probably has a stronger legal claim to the throne than Dany. And then there's the question of Aegon's legitimacy. If he is legitimate, while he may have a stronger claim to the Targaryen dynasty, Stannis's explicit claim is to the Baratheon dynasty (thus why he didn't declare Dany rightful queen of Westeros), so it doesn't mean much - they have dueling parallel claims that don't acknowledge the other's existence. And Stannis doesn't seem likely to abandon his duty just because he is treated with respect. However, if Aegon is actually a Blackfyre, then Stannis's claim to the Targaryen throne is stronger than either of theirs, anyway. If so, the idea Stannis would allow someone with a weaker claim to the throne to be king, well, look at Renly...
It annoys me the most when people list a character with the Suffix “3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th.” Within nobility you aren’t known by your suffix until you’re actually the monarch or hold the title you claim. Aegon in the books is simply known as Aegon the Pretener and should not be ascribed “the sixth.”
I think Stannis might even see the problems of a traditional Kingsguard I meam sure every 200 years or so you'll get a Barristan or a Duncan but we're only human and the idea of giving up all of your potential future and becoming celibate for life just isn't really all that appealing when you think about it All the Kingsguard do is stand around and think So maybe Stannis realized that regular knights who arent made to sacrifice everything for him are just fine
Stannis has this little ability called Going Mannis which makes him unstoppable
Let me correct you. It's actually "lack of Mannis". In modern terms lack of manliness. He was a bigger queen than Renly.
@@Me-qp8vz ur the queen stannis is a real man
@@Me-qp8vz let me correct you, renly was more of a queen than stannis as shown when he was getting his back blown out by loras just as chad king robert was clapping queen cercei cheeks. Stannis is the true king and heir to the throne by right and all those who wont bend their knees will die. Ofc renly being a good queen loves being on his knees.
Hmm lets go ask Renly what he thinks.
@@Me-qp8vz Seethe and project harder, beta.
It’s simple, Stannis doesn’t need a Kingsguard.
The Kingsguard needs Stannis.
What if Stannis led the NCR against Ceasar
@@ЖудаМ Hahaha
I don’t think he trusts them enough..
It is strange that he doesn’t have at least 2-3 Knights he truly trusts to protect his life..
Stannis K/D ratio puts most artillery to shame.
Stannis don't you worry. The fanbase will be your Kingsguard.We will keep you alive and protect you from George Martin the Starkslayer. You will not die like the other characters.We will figth and die for Davos and Stannis the Mannis the one true king.
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@@brianmayabella5992 That also works.
43 have declared for Stannis
@@ArchieM2405 I know rigth.The best thing is that this video is relatively new. MEANING MORE PEOPLE WILL JOIN.
@@kaloyanmanchev6613 Can you explain to me why people fanboy over Stannis? I think it is obvious that he is a false azor ahai and will likely not be the one who ends up on the Iron Throne. I think I will likely be either Aegon VI, Daenerys (possibly both of them) or a revived Jon Snow (if R+L = J ends up happening in the books).
It's been so many years since a Stannis POV it feels like ancient history now
There's never been a Stannis POV chapter...
@@jackftww1 Well you catch my drift, "Court of stannis Pov" then or SIr Davos Pov same thing really
@@Grandmaster-Kush You can read Theon's sample chapter from TWOW
Well, there are two factors that leave Stannis without a formal Kingsguard.
The first being that there are not enough great knights in his service and those from the houses of the Narrow Sea and the Florents don’t deserve the white cloak.
The second being that, like Renly leaving a spot for Selmy, Stannis wants to leave the opportunity for when he takes the throne and the he will have knights of actual standing pledged to him. Though Stannis probably wouldn’t trust them and rightly so.
I think Stannis would have named Davos his only Kingsguard if he thought it was an option.
Davos fits the position of Hand of the King better than a Kingsguard.
He is an advisor, not a bodyguard.
Davos "didn't deserve" hand of the king.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 Since you put that in quotation marks, who are you quoting?
@@christopherlewis1315 The OP.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 nah davos was a good enough advisor, he did.
Well, he is Stannis The Mannis - our rightful king. He has a plannis.
Who said there will be seven? Number seven means nothing for R'hllor followers. Stannis may establish his own rules with kingsguards, just to break with faith of seven.
This is a really cool point. Never thought of that.
The vast majority of Westeros follows the Seven, and the faith has become much more powerful thanks to Cersei's actions. And unlike Maegor, Stannis doesn't have a dragon to just one-hit-no-scope them all while they're in a sept.
@@nealfirstofhisname You make a good point in that the Faith is almost the strongest it's ever been since the Conquest, but we have seen that Stannis has no tolerance for the Seven against the Lord of Light (i.e., burning all of the statues in ACoK). Yes, he lets some of his men keep the faith. But this is only because 1.) he wouldn't have an army if he only had R'hllor followers and 2.) he doesn't care about religion himself nor what religion his men follow. I don't think Stannis ever does get the Iron Throne, but if he did he would fully support the Lord of Light and it would create a huge conflict with the Seven. The Battle of the Blackwater only gave credence to the Lord of Light after Melisandre's absence is seen as a giant contributor to the outcome in Stannis's eyes. An interesting development that I'm afraid we'll never see either way.
To be fair going of the war of t(e roses the events the shows based off
The yorks eventurly removed the queen regeant and her crual son from the throne killing the son and imprisoning the mother gaining power the york king edward takes the throne
He ruled for while till his death when his brother claimed the children of edward were illigitamet and took the throne himself becoming a tyrant and hid away the princess
He thought no one could beat his claim now till he ry tudor showed up , henry tudor was a banished descendent lf the lancasters sound familair literaly a targarian
Leading an army henry took the throne and found the princess daughter of edward and married her uniting the two waring families
it could go many ways based on the twists gr martin gives , but a targarian is likely to win in some copacity
@@demonic_myst4503 Henry was a Tudor, not a real Lancaster, so a Blackfyre taking the throne would be a better ASOIAF comparison.
When stannis beats the Frey’s at the battle of ice (which I believe will happen) stannis will have about 10K men with his combined forces of southerners and northmen, and that’s against the realm and only if he gets Rickon back, Tywin is dead so he just has to worry about Randal Tarly but he’s pretty formidable as a commander, stannis could win if he frees the river lands in the name of Rickon but with 10K men it’ll be a little hard/impossible to win
Im pretty intrigued too because by the time Stannis defeats the Freys and Boltons, Faegon will have already been marching on Kingslanding and the Tyrell army led by Randal Tarly will be heading his way. So Stannis having around 10,000 men and marching south would be an upset and he could potentially gain allies in the Riverlands and Vale. I don't think he is an endgame character so I wonder how he dies. A sad ending for him I could imagine is that before he has a chance to march south, something big happens with the north.
Maybe the Others finally cross the wall and Stannis is essentially the first King to meet them in battle and dies in the process and Jon takes up his mantle to gather everyone to fight them. I prefer this ending because Stannis goes out as being the King who saw the bigger threat to humanity and unfortunately is the first to die
You forget that Stannis is working together with the wildlings, at least Mance. There's still about 100 000 wildlings alive, and while only a portion are men capable of fighting, they are the most experienced group for winter warfare in all of Westeros. And Stannis might be building an alliance with the ironborn at the moment.
@@arvaakuka8568 like you said only a portion of them are men and not to mention that a great portion of those men were killed when stannis cavalry charged into them while Jon was having peace talks so if there were about 25K men (which seems reasonable and I got this number by using a population sorting methods historians use to determine how many people fought in migratory battles in our real world history) so now let’s say there’s 15K men many of which hate stannis at the moment and have had to join the watch, even still wildlings are ferocious but can’t compete with an actual organized southern army as we’ve seen every time the wildlings raided south and the starks and umbers destroyed them
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 Yeah with winter fully coming down on the North, I just don't see Stannis making it out. It doesn't matter what he promises them, most Northern Lords won't be willing to march South with Stannis in the snows of winter, especially knowing that 100,000 wildlings have been let through the Wall. The harder the terrain, the more the wildlings have the advantage. To leave their lands almost undefended on top of that would be too much.
Stannis' only chance would be to use the Manderlys new fleet to sail south. And by the time he got there, most southern lords would have pledged to Faegon since Cersei has alienated every major ally, and they need help from someone to face Euron. And if Dragonstone really has been taken, he won't have a base of operations. Stannis really has nowhere to go after Winterfell. It's possible he'd still try to go, since he stands to be far more effective in the fight against the Others if he is king and can march the full might of Westeros to the North. And he needs to regain access to his obsidian mines on Dragonstone.
I get the feeling Stannis' final battles will be against the Vale. Littlefinger intends to create a triple claim to the Vale, the North and the Riverlands through Sansa's marriage to Harry the heir, and if Rickon comes under Stannis' protection, that will be an inconvenience. Baelish will claim that this isn't truly Rickon, since it's believed Theon killed Bran and Rickon. And it fits thematically for Baelish to be the one to finish off Stannis, similar to how he was crucial to the downfall of Ned Stark. Baelish and Ned represented the best and words sides of the human race, showing how human greed destroys the good humanity could do. Stannis is similar. Yes he's far darker than Ned but ultimately he is still a very righteous character who stands to be one of the biggest assets to humanity's survival. Baelish killing Stannis would be on theme for human greed being self sabotaging. And it's also on theme for the political mastermind to destroy the military genius.
I think as Stannis sails South, Baelish's forces will kill him and he'll try to absorb most of Stannis' army, then use the combined forces to try and take over the Riverlands. Although it's possible Baelish would want Stannis to make it back to the south in order to ensure more chaos to weaken all sides. So he might actually make an alliance with him to help retake Dragonstone, but also to have men close enough to Stannis to kill him when it's convenient.
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 a lot of people believe stannis will die fighting the white walkers and so do I partially but I just can’t imagine him dying, I feel like when he’s actually corned by people in person he’ll cut through them like carving a cake (shoe reference) and be pissed while doing it, I see stannis braking in every situation we’re death is nearby rather than submitting in any way, just like Noy said, if stannis dies, he’ll die fighting, same goes for Jaime even if he has one hand now
3:02 Renly was the lord of the Stormlands, the Stormlanders were his vassals and owed him fealty, even though Stannis was the rightful king.
Stannis himself followed Robert Baratheon, the lord of the Stormlands, over Aerys Targaryen, the king, during Robert's rebellion, so punishing the Stormlanders for having followed Renly would be hypocritical and very unwise.
To be fair, stannis followed his brother, not the lord of the stormlands back then. And he hesitated greatly in even that.
@@alanbloch9924 This is another example of conflicting oaths, which the books are filled with. The Jaime dilemma.
To king Aerys Targaryen (the king of the Seven Kingdoms) or to Lord Robert Baratheon (the lord of the Stormlands and his brother and family).
The thing isn’t just that Robert was his brother, but that he was the head of his house. When weighing up all the oaths it’s clear Stannis would have viewed that as the strongest duty, to follow the head of his house rather than his king.
"The Fury is Ours!" Love me some B's. The cut and dry attitude. This is that, and that is this. No matter what. If it's raining, don't try to convince him that it is just a drizzle.
I’d argue the queen’s men are loyal to Melisandre more so than selyse. Great video!
I'll take that argument.
Well that's great for Stannis then, seeing as Melisandre is all on that "Stannis is the chosen one" kool aid, granted, given the clues that she'll sacrifice Shireen for Stannis to win and later revive Jon Snow (This would include clues in story, and the fact that GRRM straight up told D&D that 3 plot points in the books will be that Shireen is sacrificed and currently Shireen is with Melisandre far away fro Stannis's protection, and Jon Snow kills Daenerys meaning Jon Snow will have to be brought back to life), that might cause some problems if she realizes "Oh, actually the chosen one is Jon Snow" and then puts together that Stannis, the not so chosen one, is gonna be pissed once he figures out what she's done to his daughter, but Jon Snow is in good terms with Stannis so that would HOPEFULLY keep Melisandre from doing anything to harm the Mannis
I think there's two main reasons he hasn't appointed any Kingsguards. Firstly, it's a major reward he can dangle in front of his followers, encouraging loyalty. And he has a decent enough excuse to not have any appointed yet since he doesn't hold the Iron Throne. He can hold out that carrot almost indefinitely.
Secondly, I suspect Stannis does not actually want to make any of his current close supporters Kingsguard. He knows full well how much of a joke the Kingsguard of today is compared to what came before. I expect he would want to restore the prestige they had in the past, only having men who respect the rules of law and honour, and having all of them on a skill level on par with Jaime Lannister and Loras Tyrell at the worst.
An additional minor reason would be that while he may have a couple of candidates he deems suitable for his Kingsguard (although maybe not skilled enough), those same candidates could serve better in other areas, such as powerful lords or members of his small council.
0:49 bro Catelyns "for they are the nights of summer and winter is coming." Was spot on. I didnt even know the fates of some of these guys
Kingsguard is for kigs. If Stannis gets one that would make him look more legitimate for the throne. But Stannis the Mannis simply doesn't not need to prove anyone that he is the rigthful king. Also he just doesn't have the best knigths. But he will always be the one true king .
Stannis is a general, a commander, a soldier. I always thought he considered all his men (most likely his men from dragon stone that did not stay behind in the garrison) as his guard. Furthermore I think he felt it a formality (considering his soldiers were his guard in his mind in my opinion), and something only to be done once he sat on the throne itself.
We all know that Stannis is smart . So smart that I am sure that he will make Hot Pie the lord commander of the Kingsguard.We all know Hot Pie deserves recognition.
After all, what better king than king bread?
King Bread get in here! We’re telling baking stories, what was your first?
Stannis' two giant manly man balls will be his only two kingsguards and they'll be the best kingsguards Westeros has ever seen.
Stannis doesn't need The Kingsguard. The Kingsguard need him.
The kingsguard were designed by Visenya to model The Seven of the Seven Pointed Star. Stannis has no kingsguard as he taken red R'hllor, not The Seven
I feel Rolland Storm is more likely to get his family former land. Mostly of his male family members perished in war of the five Kings. Their land were subsequently given to a Lannister loyalist.
“ come with me and take this city! “
Doesn’t need one. He is the Mannis.
Stannis the Mannis, needs no Protection
It was meant to protect against Stannid
Stannis is my king idc about jon or dany being on the throne I want stannis
Your channel by far has the best game of thrones content. Keep up the good work!🔥
always nice to see some stannis love, i'll make all of you my kingsguard (bad reference to dany making everyone her bloodriders)
lol My favorite part about Dany doing that is that she ensured that her entire khalasar, all her Dothraki followers, would die with her, as all bloodriders do; she engineered the first sui-genocide.
And then, the Unsullied who survived went to Naath, fated to die from the butterfly fever, meaning all her followers from Essos were either killed or died shortly after her own death.
@@edwinsoto6932 im sure they'll find a way to keep respawning xD
@@AzorAhaiReborn
Assuming that they are different Dothraki that keep spawning like Lannister soldiers, without end, then what we have is a never-ending khalasar constantly and forever bound to suicide...
@@edwinsoto6932 my headcanon is that the dothraki kept reproducing in a super speed, factory-like fashion (so the ones we see passing by the same pier everyone is at the finale were born in westeros and already reached maturity, therefore are not bound to Dany's pact and so they can integrate in absolute peace). the unsullied however didn't pick the optimal route to get that upgrade, so they spent all their technology points on a basic mitosis perk that, unfortunately, won't be enough to save them from the butterflies :(
All hail King Stannis of the house Baratheon !!
Long may he reign!
Long may he reign
Edit: what the autocorrect
lomg may he reign
Thanks for the content he's one of my favorites
stannis the mannis the man with the plannis don’t need no pitiful kingsguard he’s got the lord of light and memes on his side
I think one interesting but unlikely idea is that stannis might recruit some knights from the night's watch. There are plenty of skilled warriors, and via his offer to jon we can see that he's willing to take members from them
The rightful King. We move forward to victory or to defeat. But we move forward.
Even though Ser Godry is vain and full of proud boast, he's one of my favorite knights In the kings retinue. I also can't wait to Ser Richard Horpe get busy against some Boltons and Freys.
Also a single combat duel between Ser Hosteen Frey and Ser Godry would be stellar
I'd love to see Jon Snow as king in the north Danny Queen as king's landing and Stannis as king of the stormlands and further south
He doesn't need a Kingsguard.Some characters can be RedWeddinged . But not our boy Stannis.
I was all about Stannis. I cheered for an impossible pact between Danny Jon and Stannis. Then the TV show happened.
Stannis doesn't need a kingsguard, he will appoint every Lords of Westeros a kingsguard to protect them from Stannis' wrath
Young Gendry was like why did you even tell me? Nothing happened? Before that at least I had a job.
Could u make a complete history of The Mad King and Queen Rhaella children unborn and lived? their generation is the Doom of the Targaryens in westeros so cool
Azor Ahai reborn. Cloaked in fire and glory :')
I didn't know any of this. This might be in your top 5 of all time videos
THE GODDAMN MANNIS
I've actually been writing a fanfic for the past year or so - a modern meets medieval asoiaf fic where a strange portal opens up between Westeros and the modern world. Not to spoil everything but Stannis basically wins the equivalent of the Battle of Blackwater and several chapters focus around choosing a new Kingsguard. Events unfold differently and he ends up retaining Barristan Selmy and Mandon Moore from Robert's Seven. New kingsguard include Godry Farring and Richard Horpe (mentioned here). After that he chooses several individuals from around the kingdoms for various reasons, including Damon Paege (from the Riverlands), Donnel Locke (from the North) and Tallad the Tall (a hedge knight).
Look up 'A Song of Guns, Germs and Steel' to read more!
Have read your fanfiction and I’ve got to say, yours is definitely one of the best Asoiaf fanfictions out there. Looking forward for the future chapters.
sounds cringe
@@GlizzyGoblin757 there's a scene where Trump gives a speech about bombing Harrenhal?
I love the art of Stannis holding "lightbringer"
Stannis was the shit I was pissed he lost
You should make a video on what characters may become POV characters in the next book
The next book will never come.
I have to know where you got that Richard Horpe art from, its so cool
"Renly on the other hand, had every slot filled" I bet he did lol
To quote a damn good Smith "Stannis is iron,good and strong but he'll break before he ever bends
Stannis already has king's guard except they were usurped by bastards born of incest.
Just like the iron throne Tommen sits on the king's guard that protects Tommen is also rightfully Stannis' so I'm sure he plans to deal with the king's guard when he takes the throne. Perhaps kill and replace some and perhaps keep any that are honorably captured like when Robert spared Selmy and kept him as the head of the king's guard.
Also, appointing king's guard before you have secured your kingdom may be the kind of pretentious display Renly would pull but Stannis would see as an indulgence.
the problem is the only one whose any good is Balon Swann and as a stormlander who sided with Joffrey on day 1, that's going to discredit him.
Right now the KG is
Jaime, nope
Loras, NOPE
the reanimated Mountain, hahaha no
Ser Balon Swann, mentioned above
Ser Boros Blunt, HA NO
Ser Meryn Trant, a pretty clear lannister loyalist
and a Kettleblack
I say cleaning house is overdue
It’s simple he’s stannis the god damn mannis he doesn’t need 1
The One true King of The Seven Kingdoms🔥
I think part of it is that he is not formally installed, so does not have “pick of the litter” and doesn’t want to assemble a meagre or “ridiculous” kingsguard (as he regarded renlys rainbow guard) its part of the pomp of being king and ruler, to him its like wearing a crown too, its not something thats done until the position is secure/ he is coronated.
I think he also thinks the current kingsguard is rightfully his, he will sort that out and continue it to his kingsguard to secure legitimacy, just like robert did
I still think it'll be funny if Euron dies in his battle in Oldtown
I don’t think stannis respects the concept of the kingsguard that much, loyal soldiers are all he needs
True king of Westeros!
Wait what? I thought Stannis has a Kingsguard.
They're Stannis, no?
Interesting thoughts here. I like the Hand speculation. Of course, I think Stannis has been planing to bend to Aegon VI since Robert's death 😉. You're anaysis is pretty good. I bet I could convince you.
7 kingdoms, 7 gods, 7 kingsguards... but Stannis believes in (or at least pays lip service to) only one god, and will not recognise sovereignty of kingdoms within his one realm, so he only gets one kingsguard, only one person who's been a loyal and trusted defender of his person and his cause from the start, and that's Davos.
I hope stannis is going to win
Stannis just forgot he could have one
Stannis is Robert’s heir. Once his brother died, the kingdom along with the current Kingsguard passed on to him. Since he’s no illegitimate pretender he has no need for forming a new group of Kingsguard.
Illigitamate pretender?? besides the greyjoy no one else is a pretender two targarians not much oretending going on
He will throw the lot of them out and execute some
I would assume his Kingsguard would have been the Kingsguard that switched to him after Renly's death since one is a Tyrell prisoner and 2 were killed at the Blackwater unless they were with the Tyrells. Also Loras was in his Rainbow Guard right, seems like he'd be Green
He has Hugo Wull fighting for him AND The Ned.
For the next video talk about Robb's guard
Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who can't protect themselves?
Robert didn't make a King's Guard during his rebellion.
I think Stannis would be the kind of the king that see's naming a king's guard of the seven kingdoms as something one does from the iron throne.
It's the right of the king. You have to actually have the throne to your back before you can swear a knight to the your guard.
Robert does have a kingsguard but by not his choice
The other claimants aren't swearing their people in as Kingsguard yet. They're just picking 7 designated people to swear in once (if) they finally win the war.
And honestly Robert's method was pretty stupid since he tended to pick incompetent people for his Kingsguard. Arys Oakheart and Mandon Moore are the two people he picked who were worthy to be one, the rest are clowns especially Blount.
Rolland Storm is the next line for the seat of House Caron. Richard Horpe will probably be Lord Commander. Cersei denied Richard being a member of the King's Guard because Cersei distrusted him. Justin is slowly losing his faith in the Red god. He wants Asha as his wife.
Stannis is the rightful king by right!!!
Well isn’t the whole concept of the ‘Seven’ kings guard based on the faith of the seven, which Stannis doesn’t follow.
STANNIS THE MANNIS
STANNIS
THE BARATHEON
STANLEY
Have you played the tell tell games? The GOT one is real good.
Why are people saying the kingsguard relates to the seven? It was origninated by Rhaenyra and she was more inspired by the night's watch than the faith of the seven. Maybe the amount there is was lifted from the seven but it is not a practice that inherently came from the religion
Theatrics is half a cause. Winning people to your side is often about symbolism, charisma, and pagentry. Keeping them is about wisdom, strength, and stability. This is ultimately Stannis's greatest problem (and weakness). His cause is cloaked in the Symbolism of the Red Faith which many Westeros don't trust and in the North, he had to swear to several lords not to allow his Red Faith followers to fuck with their godswoods. Stannis, by his own admission, does not have the charisma of his brother Robert who could beat a rival in the morning and win their support at the dining table in the evening (something Robert did repeatedly in his quest for the Throne and Aegon the Conquerer earlier on). And Stannis's hatred for pagentry makes him hard for him to ride into a town and win the support of the people. Though I would argue that as long Stannis can keep control of his Red Faith waazos, he should be able to deliver on the Keeping them skills. Stannis's use of the Red Faith and Mel's powers is ultimately a double edged sword. It turned the most Westeros, most legitimate, most honorable claimant of the Iron Throne into something of a (in the eyes of the people and potential allies) a fiery crusdaer of an alien faith.
I have a question, who do you think would be Sansa Kingsguard
The Mannis doesn't need a whitecloak
Can't have kingsguards without a kingdom
Stannis's Kingsguard is Stannis himself.
I don’t want Rolland storm to become a kingsguard, I’d like for him to be legitimized as a Carron so he can carry on the line
Yeah me too but is aline?
Because Loras Tyrell attacked dragonstone and I heard he's die protecting the castle.
There’s a theory that Loras didn’t actually do that and instead he went to fight the ironborn with the fleet he was given to assault dragon stone since his brother Garland is building up troops to fight them in the reach, also this would mean that Loras can’t defend Cersie in her trial so she has to count on Boros Blount or Meryn trant 2 fighters who could be easily killed at this point in the story, plus the details of the siege don’t make sense especially for what Loras dies during it
@@billychops1280 very interesting theory I hope is true
@Handrianus Maximus well I hope it’s true cuz I like Rolland and I don’t like Loras lol
I would be one of his seven if I existed in his universe and could be worth a damn in a fight lol
Stannis just doesn’t care isn’t it ?!? The man is just doing what he has to do cuz it’s how it’s supposed to happen. I’ll bring about a kingsguard when it is required
He is his own kids guard
Well it's simple as to why he has no Kingsguard yet
Because he needs none
Who does youre art
Melisandre’s smoke child
Renly's kingsguard also deserve an update. It was too long ago i red the book
Stannis the mannis the absolute chadis
He has the most legitimate claim he should have been king
If robb's guard had vows under a heart tree they robb probably would have lived if not have a fighting chance of escape but it's my theory
Stannis is his own Kingsguard.
A Man nick named The Mannis needs no kings guard
His jaw will protect him
Who is ypur ruler ?
The based Denerys
OR
The chad Stannis the one true king of Westeros.
Stanis the manis doesn’t need a kingsguard
I kinda feel Stannis is not even Intrested in being King anymore he's just doing his duty like he did with his wife and might vacate the crown if Danny or Ageon might treat him with respect
Stannis is Pure Iron. He'd break before he'd bend.
Stannis would may not want the crown but it is his by right as it is demanded by both law and his duty. And knowing Stannis, he'd do his duty.
His claim is legitimized by his brother Robert's Usurpation of Aegon and Dany's House of Targaryen. The very reason why the Barratheons became kings.
Stannis would never parlay with any Targaryen. He'll break and fall before he'd bend.
@@dgrmn12345 Not exactly both Danereys and Aegon are also within there rights for Iron throne Robert never ended the Targs so considering Stannis was master of laws he must be well acquainted with it and if Long night made Stannis respect Danny and Aegon he might vacate his claim and I feel Stannis is not really Pure Iron as Donal Noye has said he's more or Stubborn steel especially DwD Stannis so I can see him bending if he get respect and a worthy Title that's if he survived the long night
@@shashankdwivedi5694 as Tyrion stated, "Stannis's legitimacy as king is based on the illegitimacy of yours (Dany)"
Stannis may not share the hatred Robert has for the Targeryens but he still would not allow a Targaryen to sit on the throne.
To Stannis, none of it was personal. Only business. And being a King for him is business and it was his by law. A law that extends itself to Aegon and Dany who legitimately "lost" their claim after Robert Usurped them from the Throne and Westeros. Under the Baratheon's rule and by law, the Targaryens under Dany and Aegon are foreign invaders.
Stannis's view in duty is absolute as shown when he was quick to call Robb Stark a rebel and a traitor for calling himself King despite the Boy's father, Ned Stark, telling Stannis of the Cersei's bastards and naming Stannis as the Heir. And how he respected Jaime enough to call him 'Ser' and a knight despite his obvious disdain for the man for both incest and kingslaying
He'd accept and rewards turncloaks, criminals, and mercenaries to his ranks but only for a price, as shown when Davos, a criminal smuggler, paid with his finger joints but in turn rewards him with a knighthood.
Robert was pure steel. Able to bend around rules so people would love him whilst able to be hard on his enemies thus making them fear him.
Stannis is pure iron or raw steel. Hard. Cold. Immovable. That is his character. His death in the show (though entirely terrible) represents his character in its entirety. Dutiful to the end even in the face of death.
@@dgrmn12345 But there is a thing about Raw steel it can be bent at certain temperature and Stannis has bent many time in this story 1st when he accepted mel because of her usefulness even though half of his army fears her and most of lords hate her. 2nd when he decided to go to wall on Mel's insistence. 3rd when Jon snow decided to reject his proposal to make him legimate and still listened his counsel because he has come to respect him. 4th when he decided to go with northern clan rather than wildling and change his plan of attack because of jon and If Mel is as pious as she shows herself to be she will convince Stannis to make common cause with Dragons and I know Stannis will object their right to throne but If they earn his respect he's ready to make some tweaking in his mindset as shown in past also I find it hard believing that Stannis will survive to end of long night his character gives that "all done for naught vibes" like Ned,Rob and Danny(maybe)
There is a decent argument that Stannis (and Robert before him) has a stronger claim to the throne than Dany as a male Targaryen descendant. The royal prioritization of male heirs over female heirs is such that when Baelor died, his uncle Viserys II became king over the late king's daughters, apparently without a Great Council, based merely on precedent. That succession thus became further precedent, and the implications for the present is that Stannis probably has a stronger legal claim to the throne than Dany.
And then there's the question of Aegon's legitimacy. If he is legitimate, while he may have a stronger claim to the Targaryen dynasty, Stannis's explicit claim is to the Baratheon dynasty (thus why he didn't declare Dany rightful queen of Westeros), so it doesn't mean much - they have dueling parallel claims that don't acknowledge the other's existence. And Stannis doesn't seem likely to abandon his duty just because he is treated with respect.
However, if Aegon is actually a Blackfyre, then Stannis's claim to the Targaryen throne is stronger than either of theirs, anyway. If so, the idea Stannis would allow someone with a weaker claim to the throne to be king, well, look at Renly...
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@@calumgreen3026 You monster.
I don't think the red women would want kingsguard
It annoys me the most when people list a character with the Suffix “3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th.” Within nobility you aren’t known by your suffix until you’re actually the monarch or hold the title you claim. Aegon in the books is simply known as Aegon the Pretener and should not be ascribed “the sixth.”
I think Stannis might even see the problems of a traditional Kingsguard
I meam sure every 200 years or so you'll get a Barristan or a Duncan but we're only human and the idea of giving up all of your potential future and becoming celibate for life just isn't really all that appealing when you think about it
All the Kingsguard do is stand around and think
So maybe Stannis realized that regular knights who arent made to sacrifice everything for him are just fine
What kind of a video just starts mid sentence
He could choose Jon Snow as a member of his Kingsguard.