The Timex Expedition Scout - Military Field Watch at a reasonable price.

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  • @WondersofWatchdom
    @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WATCH SPECS:
    Weight: 2.4 ounces (68 grams)
    Adjustable brown 20 millimeter genuine leather strap fits up to 8-inch wrist circumference
    Black dial with date window at 3 o'clock
    Black 43 millimeter brass case with mineral crystal
    Indiglo light-up watch dial
    Water resistant to 50 meters (165 feet)
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  • @easterntrees
    @easterntrees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I like how unique your videos are. anybody who displays watches on mossy branches and talks about obscure flintstones episodes is alright by me. the place where you live is beautiful, by the way.

  • @ashelverton
    @ashelverton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic review, huge props to the shots you did of the watch in nature.

  • @stevenXCV
    @stevenXCV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I bought the stainless steel version back in 2017 and all I can say is that this watch is durable and rugged as heck, the indiglo night light is also a nice feature. It truly does live up to its slogan, “It takes a licking and keeps on ticking.”

  • @leroybrown811
    @leroybrown811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very, very excellent review, just perfect. There are some other reviews out there that are so long and repetitive I can’t believe it. Very precise and to the point, refreshing! Thank you very much! I think I will pick me up one of these inexpensive beauties, I’ve owned one other indeglo in Rolex style gold tone and loved it for ten years until the crown broke off. May try and find a new crown for it and do the easy replacement. Thanks again my friend!

  • @bubbsdaddy
    @bubbsdaddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got this watch today... love it. Just as nice as your review depicted. Second hand is almost dead on with the one I got too, so that's a plus.
    Thanks for the great review!

  • @barryfleischer6553
    @barryfleischer6553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very enjoyable and informative video. I've been wearing an LL-Bean-Hamilton Automatic field watch since 1991. It has an ETA 2824-2 movement. I've had this watch on my wrist almost everyday since it arrived. I'm impressed with the Timex you showed. I'm hooked on the Field watch design. I have to talk myself into wearing my other vintage watches.

  • @MattMasiewicz
    @MattMasiewicz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videography is really good. I appreciate The thought and effort that you put into your filming. I just got an expedition today and I am wearing it for the first time right now. Luckily my second hand seems to land right on target.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to hear! I still LOVE the look of this watch.

  • @Gm-nx9je
    @Gm-nx9je ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this review and found the advice re strap and protecting the watch when going into water very helpful. thank you. one new subscriber :)

  • @tiagogardino
    @tiagogardino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vídeo completo a respeito do Timex Expedition e creio que a empresa realmente tenha sanado o "problema" do ruído alto de Tic Tac nos modelos mais recentes.
    Obrigado por compartilhar esse excelente vídeo.

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've had a timex expedition similar to the one your reviewing with a black body for about 1.5 yrs and taken it to many fields and exercises. I can say that the paint hasn't scratched at all and only has a little wear on the edges around the crown. My only criticisms I have is that the lum is basically useless but the backlight is dark enough that if you're trying to be considerate of light discipline you can just cup your hand around it. Also I've had the same miss alignment issue with the second hand but if I really cared about per-second accuracy I'd had bought a digital watch.
    Overall I've really like the expedition as a watch for being in the military. It is nice enough to wear daily but will keeps time accurately in an extended field/mission while also being (so far) durable enough and water resistant enough for anything I've thrown at it. (Also at $50 I'm not overly worried about it getting broken/lost)

  • @rikspector
    @rikspector 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's the watch I've had for a long time but my case is silver, other than that, and the all red minute hand, it's almost like yours.
    I love the look.Cheers,
    Rik Spector

  • @bobshoe1
    @bobshoe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve got the black with cream face and absolutely love it.

  • @garyggarner7738
    @garyggarner7738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I purchased a Times Expedition and love it! It is easy to read and I love the Indiglow back light. Contrasting black dial and white hands / Indices and markers make the watch very easy to read. The overall appearance make the watch very legible, the quartz movement is accurate my only complaint is the hands do not land directly on the Indices. The watch is a very inexpensive durable time piece and I would buy again!

  • @briansotobassist
    @briansotobassist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one for a party last Christmas. Mine have fluorescent hands plus indigo. Nice looking watch, a little vintage side, looks like 80s or 90s. I use it for the job sometimes and gathering. Also is sexy in the nature..

  • @frankn.steiner7061
    @frankn.steiner7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the look of the Expedition. I was looking for a Tide watch and found the Timex Allied Tide Temp Compass. Looks great but i'm not sure about the accuracy of those complications, especially the tide.

  • @steven3379
    @steven3379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep this is a good looking watch, I'm lucky enough to have the Hamilton Khaki Field Titanium version with the light green tinted indicies..it my most expensive watch and one of my favorites!
    Thanks for the video..

  • @numberthread2493
    @numberthread2493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a timex expedition with a green dial and a leather strap. i haven't had to adjust the time since ive bought it. also the softish leather wears nicely over time

  • @bernardtan1
    @bernardtan1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have that Timex but the 40mm version, dark gun metal not black then i bought a matte black vintage leather strap used the Timex buckle & converted it to quick release like its original black silicone strap. I switch straps depending on what I'm doing or where I'm going. My 24 hr. numbers are in white while the main numbers are green w/c glows in the dark including the hour & minute hands while the seconds hand is all orange while on top of number 12 is an tiny orange marker.

  • @thomassutherland5188
    @thomassutherland5188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Indiglo is awesome. Sets Timex ahead of the pack for years now at any price point.

  • @rickcroucher
    @rickcroucher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. I like it and agree that the brown leather strap is better.

  • @JusTVIDSE
    @JusTVIDSE ปีที่แล้ว

    The improvement on the ticking is impressive

  • @jiasunzhang8001
    @jiasunzhang8001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the appreance of this watch, I wish it will have a solar power version and improvenment of water reisitant

  • @porschefanatic1049
    @porschefanatic1049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I brought the same watch for $45 on amazon. It’s much better than the more expensive Michael Kors watch ($200) I brought when I was a freshman in college. I didn’t understand the difference between real watch makers and fashion designer watches.

  • @jimmy2060
    @jimmy2060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Timex expedition chronograph and just love it, get one of them for yourself

  • @pjfsr7024
    @pjfsr7024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Scout 40 ( Black case, khaki face black numerals and hands with lumin, is 7 going on 8 YO.
    I had to replace the strap because I snagged it on a lag bolt 30 feet in the air it hit a picket fence and landed face down in grass, it's still ticking and still accurate enough for even some government work : ).
    Been in pools, showers, lakes ( no salt water ) mud, underground etc. and unlike some complaints, mine is quiet at normal viewing distance, can't hear the tick until it's 3 or less inches from my ear.
    Will I buy this again ? hell yeah; it out lasted 2 Seikos, a Caravelle, my G Shock which I bought after this ( the solar charger stopped working after 3 years.
    Not a bad watch for 35 dollars.

  • @gitmoholliday5764
    @gitmoholliday5764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would be great if they make one like this
    with the hands of the Expedition T40011

  • @kevkabluebird1032
    @kevkabluebird1032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The thing that drives me nuts is: if the second hand is off regarding the indicators/marks. Would like to order a affordable watch ( here in Germany) but this „off second hand“ drives me crazy. (-:
    Right now, I’m wearing a Orient (Japan) mechanical watch.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @marcolabranche2480
    @marcolabranche2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got mine from Amazon today and the indiglo feature doesn’t work out of the box. Anyone had this issue?

  • @jonathantatler
    @jonathantatler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the look of the Expedition, unfortunately all three of the ones I've had have been total rubbish, the 'indiglow" failed on two and another leaked.
    One had the winder fall out but that could have been caught on something without noticing.

    • @ivanpatarcic73
      @ivanpatarcic73 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh. Have you reported this to Timex?

    • @IgnacioGlezCllo
      @IgnacioGlezCllo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I managed to snap the crown off mine; I know I got it caught on my backpack strap as I was taking it off, totally user error..... I would love it if Timex made the same watch with the crown at 4 position

  • @brendanfisher
    @brendanfisher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. I'm a newcomer to your channel. Your Vostok video was recommended to me. I liked and subscribed after watching that video. Thoroughly enjoying your content! Am I detecting a Northern Irish twang in your accent? Mixed with Canadian? Kindest regards, Brendan - Portstewart, N. Ire

  • @jameseisen9371
    @jameseisen9371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the other expedition watch u displayed

  • @cityproofdad
    @cityproofdad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fog inside is common for rapid temperature change as the air inside contain woter same as outside even the best gshocks have this fog issue

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have the Cream dial version, Looks like you filmed in Sleepy Hollow Haha (:

  • @ChaseFawcett
    @ChaseFawcett 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey how do I go about getting back a stolen watch thx

  • @patrick_jane2164
    @patrick_jane2164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your reviews, the quality of the videos and how you go into every detail. I never held a Timex before, does the brass feel heavier than the steel used in other watches?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's 70 grams with the strap. It feels "substantial" but definitely not heavy. I don't notice it on the wrist.

    • @boro3454
      @boro3454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only bad point with brass is that with time it gets rust from the sweat

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boro3454 If you rinse off the sweat and grime, brass will develop a protective patina that is extremely durable. Having said that, in this watch you have to wear out the PVD coating first to even expose the brass, which usually takes years. I've had my previous expedition for 10 years. The old leather strap rotted off during a hiking trip in the jungle, yet the PVD is still fine.

  • @RafaelSantos-vg3jd
    @RafaelSantos-vg3jd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've heard a lot of complaints about loud ticking from Timex watches, but I guess I am in the minority here because I actually enjoy that feature. As long as I can remember their movements have always had an audible tick. Sort of like having a grandfather clock on your wrist, lol. Great looking watch by the way.

    • @jeremiahbachmann3901
      @jeremiahbachmann3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The slogan is "keeps on ticking", so if you couldn't hear it tick, they would be liars.

    • @lebowskiunderachiever3591
      @lebowskiunderachiever3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have this same watch (different color) and can only hear the tick from 3 inches

    • @gerryroush8391
      @gerryroush8391 ปีที่แล้ว

      They only tick loud when. Trying to fall asleep

  • @TheBootyWrangler
    @TheBootyWrangler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey! You think you could ever give a rundown on Seiko watches? I’ve always been super into their style and own one myself, although it’s a cheap (lol not for me) $150 little thing. It’s beautiful though. They truly capture that clean cut modernized look in almost all of their time pieces. I’m assuming it’s Japanese based on the style? If not please correct me I have not done my research on this! Either way they captivate me I just wish they had more automatic options I’m annoyed by the prevalence of quartz movements these days.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure I'll be doing lots of Seiko reviews in the future. They have a lot of great watches.

  • @noobfl
    @noobfl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice photography

  • @justin_hanson5750
    @justin_hanson5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Should do a review on Invicta 23533. I see a lot of mixed reviews so I would very much appreciate it if you would do a review on this good looking watch!

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, can't recommend that one. It's a skeletonized movement open dial, which is nice, but the finishing on the movement is terrible. The movement is made by Shandong Liaocheng Zhong Tai Watch, and is a basic movement known as "Chinese Standard Movement" and developed during the communist 5-year plan era. It actually would be a fascinating review, but then I'd have to buy it! Lol

  • @DiegoCamarero
    @DiegoCamarero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. A bit oversized at 43mm IMHO.

  • @dave_yeg8596
    @dave_yeg8596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Indiglo feature is heavy on batteries

  • @KillerNoob2001
    @KillerNoob2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that old timex expedition, I've been looking for something like it for some time. Does it have any specific serial numbers or anything?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I popped open the case to take a look, but sorry I don't see any model # or serial #. I remember I found it once by searching for "Timex Flieger."

    • @KillerNoob2001
      @KillerNoob2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WondersofWatchdom Thank you

  • @jeremiahbachmann3901
    @jeremiahbachmann3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the difference between the Expedition and the Expedition Scout?

  • @muthulakshmimuthiah4804
    @muthulakshmimuthiah4804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what differ own and buy

  • @ovisteaua9191
    @ovisteaua9191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it

  • @gabd.5299
    @gabd.5299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Once i had a timex, but the brass case got really rusty after a year of wearing. I like the look and indiglo of many timex watch, but all of them use brass case. So i will stick to Casio if i want a beater.

    • @FloridaClay
      @FloridaClay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brass doesn't rust?????

    • @gabd.5299
      @gabd.5299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FloridaClay Yeah normally not. But if not PURE brass it will. If you search on google: timex corrosion - you will gonna see what i 'm talking about. And probably not just timex, but other brass case watch as well.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Really rusty" after a year of wearing it? I'm going to have to call BS on that one. Timex brass cases are coated with PVD, nickel or chrome. As I mentioned in the video, I've had my old one for 10 years and banged it around A LOT, and it still doesn't have a speck of oxidation. You need deep gouges or wear just to start the oxidation process, and even then brass develops a patina in a few months and stops oxidizing: in fact it makes the watch more durable.

    • @gabd.5299
      @gabd.5299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WondersofWatchdom Okay... I made a picture just for you. Now tell me what is this if it's not rust: 1drv.ms/u/s!Av-wshROQLRka-NTaFbLtioqg4E?e=kdYWJg Even if it s not rust, that is definitely not patina...

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@gabd.5299 Well I stand corrected, that's certainly corrosion. Is this even a Timex, or just a Timex caseback? In any case, it looks like you put this watch through a meat grinder and then left it in a field. That's just gross neglect, and not just for a year. How do you even get a caseback that scratched?? It's supposed to be against your skin.

  • @jamesbronson3347
    @jamesbronson3347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ANOTHER OUTSTANDING REVIEW. DO YOU SELL WATCHES?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! No I don't sell watches - it's just a hobby!

  • @IgnacioGlezCllo
    @IgnacioGlezCllo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what's the older (not the vintage model) Timex watch you show at the 1:22 mark? Thanks

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s also an expedition, but it looks like a flight watch. Sorry I don’t know the model number.

  • @SuperMerlot
    @SuperMerlot ปีที่แล้ว

    Timex watches are good value but for me the issue with them is that its movement is noisy. I always end up putting it inside a drawer so I don't hear it when trying to sleep

  • @AntonioRodriguez-ot4dh
    @AntonioRodriguez-ot4dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I HAVE 4 TIMEX EXPEDITION IN MY WATCH COLLECTION GOOD WATCHES FOR THE PRICE

  • @JMK15
    @JMK15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any Timex pieces, similar to this, feature 200 m water resistance?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think so. Timex has a lot of models, so not entirely sure, but even their new "diver inspired" watches are 50M water resistance. The Timex Ironman watches are 200M, but they're quartz and don't look like this.

  • @torpilo
    @torpilo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the Timex Expedition North Solar? Any opinions?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t tried it but I’m basically done with Timex. I had a similar model (Timex Gunmetal intelligent quartz) with compass which looks amazing, but the stem broke and it’s stuck in the crown.
      I have 3 timex watches now and I like them, but over the years I’ve probably broken 10: crown stem, backlighting doesn’t work, caseback too tight, endlinks bend, you name it.

  • @801revolutionary
    @801revolutionary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That would look awesome on a nato band.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it would. In fact I think I'll try that.

  • @tonivanlaar9596
    @tonivanlaar9596 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like a watch that you can hear tikking

  • @happypuppy8221
    @happypuppy8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else like ticking sound?

  • @TenSapphires
    @TenSapphires 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there something similar with titanium case?

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not entirely sure. I've seen some Timex watches described as "titanium" but it refers to the color of the case, not the material.

  • @johnadams3107
    @johnadams3107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ion plating from what I have discovered and have been told will rub or wear off from my own personal experience and is not nearly as durable.have a CWC SBS PVD dive watch from silvermans the U.K supplier to british SAS/SBS units.also tag Huer Super Professional PVD circa early 90's as well as Fortis 40mm PVD Pro pilot.every IP plated Seiko,Timex and others with this finish have usually had some wearing off on the case so for me its gotta be PVD.
    CHEERS

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm telling you John, Ion Plating (IP) and Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) is the same thing. But don't take my word for it, here's Wikipedia:
      "Ion plating is a physical vapor deposition process that is sometimes called ion assisted deposition or ion vapor deposition and is a version of vacuum deposition."

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I picked up a digital watch for $1 (plus tax) from the dollar store. It works well enough for me and keeps good time... I'm happy.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, good for you. Some people are happy with the bare minimum of quality as long as it works.

  • @peteranserin3708
    @peteranserin3708 หลายเดือนก่อน

    only down side for me is the microscopic date window.

  • @SuperLenny555
    @SuperLenny555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't remember that Flintstones episode .

  • @eyeontime6136
    @eyeontime6136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Hamilton looks amazing, but not at 1K.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a great watch even at the price, but certainly not a bargain by any stretch.

  • @gnomilius
    @gnomilius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have another channel? Your voice is very familiar...

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, this is my only channel so far.

    • @gnomilius
      @gnomilius 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WondersofWatchdom Oh lol. Thanks for replying (:

    • @YXUHUNTER
      @YXUHUNTER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LoL... You must be watching TAOFLEDERMAUS channel...
      This and TAOFLEDERMAUS great channels!!

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YXUHUNTER Haven't seen it but I'll check it out.

  • @johnadams3107
    @johnadams3107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That watch is IP coated and NOT PVD.I have two of these scouts.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ion Plating (IP) and Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) are the same thing.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have taken 30m Timex watches I have swam, gone into hot tubs, and couldn’t kill the watch.

  • @Gogofam123
    @Gogofam123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WHERE ARE NEW VIDEOS . THIS CHANNEL IS A HIDDEN GEM

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Working on a new video now. Should be ready within a week.

  • @ZgNavigator
    @ZgNavigator 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice watch but I prefer Hamilton

  • @jhonmichaelcalibo6143
    @jhonmichaelcalibo6143 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just give me this watch bro. Pls

  • @iazarov
    @iazarov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They work too loudly in comparison with normal Swiss rondo quartz movement. The only advantage of Timex watches - they are cheap.

    • @Strideo1
      @Strideo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The review addressed this. He said this watch isn't loud.

  • @bobmarley6161
    @bobmarley6161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wax the leather strap and trust me it'll last many many years...

  • @jonathantatler
    @jonathantatler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Lube up" before swimming with a 50m watch?
    You put up with garbage and justify it to yourself.

    • @WondersofWatchdom
      @WondersofWatchdom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Field watches aren't for swimming. I just mentioned that in case anyone wants to.
      I would argue that ANY crown and stem watch without a screw down crown isn't really a swim-worthy watch without proper and regular lubrication. I'm curious to see what the new Seiko 5 sports owners will be saying about the water-resistance of their watches in 2-3 years.