An Unfair Fun Shootout: Sony RX10 Mark IV vs. Sony a9 II
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Dave challenges Evelyn to a friendly shootout. He brings out the "big guns" with a full-frame Sony A9 II and Evelyn packs light with the Sony RX10 Mark IV, a bridge camera with incredible zoom range but a much smaller sensor. Is this a fair match for a shootout? Watch and decide for yourself.
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I own basically the expensive set-up and have for many years. I am now 76 years old and due to various health issues I no longer enjoy lugging all that equipment with me. My physical abilities are limited. So I have been researching alternatives as I'm not ready to give up my love of wildlife photography quite yet. Thank you so much for this video. It gives me hope.
I'm not quite that old but have done my tour of duty lugging 300mm f2.8, 400mm f2.8, 600mm f.4 and multiple other cameras and lenses. I can see the image quality isn't the sharpest but in reality I wont be shooting for competitions, I'll just be carrying mine for fun and grabbing clips of video. I think this is a great camera for that.
At the end its all about you as a photographer. I've been using my Sony RX10 IV professionally as a sports photographer and videographer for the last two years. Other professional photographers have been impressed by the potential of this all in one camera.
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Sony RX10 Mark IV All the way!!
Leave the lens hood off unless doing contre-jour. Hoya HD nano UV to protect the lens. Swap the action of the front two rings.
As a rx10m4 owner, Evelyn gave the rx10 a pretty accurate review. No reframing while burst shooting, and a rather deep depth of field. A tip to anyone who owns an rx10 or looking to buy one: TURN OFF image stabilization when your shutter speed exceeds 1/400. You will get sharper images!! This mean when zooming in to 600mm with image stabilization off you need a fast shutter to remove camera shake, I usually use 1/1000.
thx bro, I rented it for a trip test drive. Will prolly just rent the latest for trips instead of buying since I only need it like once or twice a year lol.
Thanks! Who would have thought about that! Will definitely try...
I own both the Rx10M4 and an interchangeable lens system A7III (also have the little brother to the RX10… RX100MVII which I use sometimes while bicycle riding as if fits into a pocket)
Interesting enough, in this video, the A9II is so much newer than the RX10M4. I think both have their uses.
Generally speaking, the RX10 is always close by, if I know I'm going “shooting” and know I will have time to change lenses I'll use the full frame. In all other cases it's usually the RX10 unless I need something to fit in a pocket.
If I was going let's say to Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon in other words vacationing, hands down it's the RX10M4 as I don't want to miss that shot of a wolf at distance because I have the wrong lens on.
@@NOWitsOKtoThanks for your comment! With today’s high megapixel cameras, i.e. (A7CR at 61MP), wouldn’t the ability to shot with a shorter focal length prime, and then crop in later in post effectively result in the zoomed in detail that the RX10 M4 or those massive 70-infinity lenses give optically?
@@fmtoussantgood Idea to rent vs. buy. The RX10 M4 is not inexpensive, (~$1400 usd), and if you sparing use all that zoom power this is the budget way to go!
The excellent chemistry you two have makes this video so enjoyable to watch
second that :
You don't win against 8.5 months pregnant woman! Ever! You just don't! 😊
I traded in a large Pelican Case with a outdated Sony A350 and five lenses (2 of which were still labeled Minolta) for a complete do over. I went with the Sony RX10 IV and new RM60 Flash. I'm happy I did. I didn't want to spend at lease $10,000 to replace everything I had to current A7R and five new lenses and a flash so I went the route of the Bridge RX10 IV. Al I can say is I conclude what you two have said. The RX 10 IV is good enough and is fast enough to 90 % of what I would every need in all situations. 90% is good enough and didn't spend $8,000 more to cover that last 10 % of all situations. I call that a compromise. Well done Shootout ! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the excellent comparison! Over the last 2 years I have taken thousands of photos with the RX10 IV. People assume that I am using a DSLR. Some of the photos even make beautiful prints up to 16 x 24 and 20 x 30.
What type of job you do?
Yes, I recently showed my RX10 IV to another pro and he was asking what lens did I currently have on it. The only one! 😊
Great video! I own a Sony RX10 IV, and since having it I stopped dragging around my previous DSLR gear (Nikon D610+various lenses). I am now free to lift my camera in almost (just being modest here) any photographic situation. I also have in my pocket my Sony RX100 V, so when I am out to a dinner etc. my hands are free. Thanks for this nice video!
We have the same Sonys. I love them both - I just wish the RX100 V could record 4k for longer without overheating. Either way, both of these cameras are beasts!
Lot of good vibes here as much as a great comparison/vidéo. Thanks !
Beautifully done by two very charming and knowledgable people. Great video.
Nice comparison. Got the RX10iv a few years ago as a lighter travel alternative to my Alpha 77mkii and several good quality heavy lenses. Intended to continue using the 77 for macro and wildlife but RX10 ended up being the goto camera due to weight, flexibility and the image quality being close to or even better than the 77. Recently splurged on the A7RIVA and there is a big enough difference in image quality to go back to the original plan but both are great cameras depending on what your priorities are. Luckily I can afford the luxury of both but if not the RX10 can meet most needs.
Good video. I like the friendly banter between you two!
Glad you brought up the problem of swapping lenses. No matter how careful I can be my sensors get dirty easily. So I always have two cameras and never swap lenses outdoors. I have owned the SX10 IV for years now and still amazed at the shots I get. Great, fun video here!
Request: RX10IV vs. A6400 & 70-350mm G! A more mortal comparison. :)
Man i have A6400+70-350G and its awsome setup, so handy and light. I just love it. AF is fast as hell and the lens is sharp. You can check my insta profile if you want instagram.com/photo_travel_shooting/
@@photo_shoot_travel Me too, I love it
RX10iv has 24fps and 600mm)
@7:37, was that out of focus or heavily cropped? It looks soft.
Very nice video, thanks. I'm heading off on safari next year and the kit that I am likely to purchase is the D850 with the 200-500 lens (plus something in the range of 24-120 or 70-200) and the RX10 iv. I like the idea and versatility of being able to grab a second body that does not need too much setting up and can capture shots that could be missed while changing lens.
And in case you are wondering, I have handled mirrorless bodies including the Sony range but find them too small for my hands, which are not large.
Take care and remain safe, David
You two are adorable and this was a nice video to watch. I loved the cute bantering 🤭 I also loved seeing the side by side shots that were similar to compare! Thank you!
Great comparison. Thank you!
As far as macro shots are concerned: on the RX10 MK4, you need to use the longest focal length (600mm) in order to have the greater magnification ratio which is in that case around 0.50:1 equivalent to FF
I have the RX10m4 and love it, mostly. Two things, 1) when at 600mm, the auto focus is not always spot on. If I have time (if the bird will stay still long enough), I can do better with the assisted manual focus. Sometimes it is a depth of field issue. The camera will focus on the closest thing it can find. The object might not be at exactly that distance. 2) When shooting birds in flight, if the bird strays out of frame (operator error), the camera sometimes completely looses focus. I have heard that the a9 does better with that, but then it should.
Great video. If I was not into swapping lenses, the RX would be a wonderful option.
Very good video. Very entertaining! Loved it!
Great video, love you guys!
Love your presentations. I am an old customer, but live in NZ now, so that relationship is not really practical now! I shoot predominantly Canon, and have the R5 with the L-series 24-105 & 100-500 lenses; but I also have the Sony Rx-10MkIV as I consider that it is the best bridge camera on the market and I carry that when bulk and weight are at a premium: for example for multi-day hikes or trips involving flying where photography is not the main reason for my trip. A lot depends on what one is going to produce, and for a lot of digital output: social media, digital devices, plus smaller prints - the 1" sensor is not too bad. If I was shooting for large, detailed prints then I would be prepared to carry the big gear.
Hey, Is there any news about Rx10 m5 launch? I am so excited to buy that! Would you suggest me to buy the m4 ??
Congratulations Evelyn!!!
I currently have a Sony A6500 as my daily use camera with small assortment of lenses. I have the 55-210, the 16-50 and the 50. My wife uses my older DSC-HX400V. I do like using my A6500 but would also be happy with the RX10 m4. Thanks for the video, each of the cameras do their jobs well, each just has a slightly different purpose.
I have the A7Riii, and 100-400 with a 2x adapter. I also have the RX10vi. I end up using the RX10vi a lot especially on trips. The camera is larger but weighs less than the 100-400 lens! It also takes great video! Sure you can shoot with the 200-600 etc but how often are you going to be swapping the lenses? Simpler to get it all with the RX10vi when traveling.(I have the Nikon D900 (and tried the D1000) with the 24-2000 lens but most of the images are way worse than the Sony superzoom.
RX10M4 for me, having been a Nikon guy with tons of lens, the RX10M4 just made sense. Recent trip to Africa and 7 safaris I would have missed so many shots had I been left with changing a ton of lens around. Picture quality between my Nike D5300 and the Sony RX10M4 was indistinguishable!!!!
How special it must have been to go on those safaris. I am from beautiful Africa, Zimbabwe and been on many bush camps etc where the smell of the dry bush, the light and atmosphere is something so different to anywhere else, it's intoxicating.
I now live in the U.K. but man do I miss it sometimes.
I hope you managed to get some amazing pictures.
The fact that you can't zoom while doing AF-C tracking was a deal breaker for me with my Panasonic FZ-1000 a few years ago. That was a really great camera, but any attempt at shooting action with varying distances was always spoiled by this. Also, zooming just takes to long if electrically driven. I still do like the all-in-one camera concept of the FZ and the RX10, and the pictures are really good at daylight.
I come from a manual zoom setup to the RX-10 and let me tell you, the time it takes to zoom out at the fast zoom setting will not hamper your picture taking noticably, as its about two seconds. What is more important when talking about taking pictures at an instant is, that with the RX-10 you always have the right lense on the camera. With my Canon 7DII i often came to a situation where I didnt have the right lense on the camera and either I didn't have the time to switch or didn't have the right gear with me. So I lost way more photo opportunities with my $20000 worth of exchangeable lenses than I ever lost with the $2000 RX-10. You will only carry 30lb of gear with you for a limited time. Then you appreciate the value package of getting 80% out of the quality of the expensive setup but it only weighing 2lb and fitting into a spacious jacket pocket.
J'ai un Panasonic FZ2000 et un Sony RX10M4.
Le Panasonic est plus pratique au niveau des menus et commandes, en vidéo, et pour manipuler les images après.
Mais la qualité d'image, la capacité à faire des photos en rafale avec une vitesse d'obturation plus élevée lorsque la luminosité est très moyenne avantage fortement le Sony RX10M4.
Néanmoins il est deux fois plus cher que le Panasonic FZ2000.
J'ai attendu que les prix d'occasion baissent pour en acheter un.
The RX 10 looks good . Very versatile
I understand the depth of field is different from full frame cameras but does the 600mm F4 in the Sony RX10iv put the same amount of light on that 1" sensor that a 600mm F4 puts on a full frame sensor in the same area? Is the iso just as low as if I was shooting a full frame with a 600mm F4? That makes a lot more difference to me than the softness of the depth of field which I can control by separation of subject and background.
Yes it is the same amount of light in the sense that the exposure will be the same at f4 for both cameras.
Thank you so much for doing this comparison. I’m quite confused. I own a Sony RX10 M4 and also own a Canon R7 with a 100-500 mm lens. When I zoom at full 600mm with the Sony, I’m not getting the same focal length as full 500 mm zoom with the Canpn. Why is that? Why are you getting the same focal length with your more expensive Sony and the RX10?
Also, I’ve never figured out how to use the RX10 for macro. Do you simply turn the dial to macro or do you use Manual focus?
Thank you so much once again.
Hi and thanks for watching, We always have fun with these kind of shootouts. You own two very good but different application cameras. The reason you are not getting the same zoom on between your two cameras is the crop factor. The RX10 has the equivalent of a 600mm lens, the Canon R7 is a cropped sensor camera. With the Canon you need to apply the crop factor of 1.6x to the focal length the get the equivalent. So 500mm x 1.6 gives you an 800mm equivalent. In our comparison we were shooting the RX10 IV against the Sony A9 II which is a full frame sensor so both camera's match the focal length.
The RX10 is a very versatile camera and does have very good macro capabilities. In full Auto the camera focuses very close without having to put it into macro mode. You can see when you focus that in the upper left screen the icon will switch the the macro icon when in the macro range, In the Scene menu you can select the Macro option where it sets the camera to specifically shoot Macro subjects, AF and exposure are optimized for Macro in that mode. You can switch to manual focus and do it manually if desired. I often set the camera to min focus and move the entire camera till the subject I want is in focus.
Hope this helps.
The RX10m4 camera has a timed switch off and it automatically retreacts the lens. Unfortunately the lens caught the camera bag and it sounds like the gearing jumped some teeth. Now the lens won't fully extend. Is this easily fixable, please anyone?
I have both, and for travel where the emphasis is on hiking and sightseeing, bridge camera all the way. When the emphasis is on shooting, A9 all the way.
I have a RX10 MKiii. I don’t use it enough but when I do I am pleased with the results.
Great comparison. I am considering getting this camera even though I have a Canon 80D with a Tamron 18-300 lens. I love this setup but I am feeling the edges are a little soft and worse the chromatic aberration is pretty bad. I would keep my 80D to use with more limited zoom lenses like the 17-50 f/2.8 I already have and love and use a RX10 for ship photography. Still thinking about it but this video is helping in the process.
I love my RX10mkIV, would love to see it in a full frame sensor for better low light. Until then, I will use both the RX10 and the A7Riii
Yeah full frame sensor would be cool but the lense would also have to become full frame sized, losing the advantage of it being this neat package it still is.
You two are fun. Great comparison and entertaining too.
Thanks for this head-to-head which is, sincerely, very sound. Because comparing makes actual sense, I think both cameras complement one another.
For the last 3,5 years I'v owned RX10s (M3 for 17 months, then M4) and would not trade it for anything. Former free-lance photographer and son of journalist, I've been through most of the aspects of photography (sports, fashion, portrait, news, products, architecture, nature). With my 9kg gear bag I've toured Europe and part of Canada, and that repelled me from shooting. At one time I quit, for good. Until I discovered the RX10M3.
So, after 14 years without releasing any shutter, I was holding a camera... and what camera ! It does it all, because your review was (for a reason) about photography. But the thing does video too, and so well ! After using it for 7 months, I was hired to film an event... and the result was beyond my wishes. For the first time in my life, I was able to film with my own gear, to snap photos as well... all this with a 1,2kg camera. My whole kit fits in the lower half of a backpack. Then asked to do product photography, then portrait, then wedding (for friends). And the camera did just great : a magazine pro-retoucher confirmed the "perfect technical quality" of the files.
Like any piece of machinery (you don't ride rocky mountain trails with a Colnago ultra-light road bike) it has its limitations, and one must learn about, and cope with, them. Then, you can always rent if need arises.
Thanks to this great "little beast", I've started to consider going back to photography... and video ! Even though currently impossible, my project should launch very soon.
Defo the sony bridge camera, moving subjects isn't an issue for me being a stills shooter and background blur can be manipulated in Photoshop.. Great video thank you for sharing 👍😁
This is just the video I have been waiting for. I own the Sony A7R4 and the 200 to 600 lens, This is a great set up with superb image quality, but I have to make a decision to go out shooting. I cannot carry this when, for example I am out walking the dog, and you can bet that it is on these occasions the kingfisher will make an appearance or a deer will run out across my path. This Sony bridge camera looks like the perfect solution.
LOL I bought a bunch of Sony camera's for when out walking the dog. I currently have the RX10IV / RX100M7and like it so much I was thinking of upgrading to the A7R4 and 200-600. I sold the A7II A7III A6300 and a6400.
Sony RX10 IV is still the best Compact Camera. SONY a9 ll video time @ 7:18 few spots on pic. be safe during changing the lense. Thanks for Comparison of these two Cameras. Great Job, Cheers!
I have the 200-600 on the a7lll. BUT as I get older and when I have had enough of the lens changing and the weight. I will go with the RX 10llll or 5 when it comes out.
Fun little video, but viewers should know that anything less than bright sunlight and the difference between those two cameras would have become immediately apparent.
You both are so funny. Great video!
My 2 cents as a RX10IV owner, when I do proxy shots I never use it at wide angle but alway at full zoom and this is why :
Pros :
- coming too close to the subject may reduce the light and may put a shadow over it
- zoom factor is a bit better at 600mm minimum focus distance that minimum "usable" focus distance at wide angle
- less chance you scare bugs at minimum 600mm focus distance that when you go closeup
- better comfort you can stand up no need to crunch ;-)
- more "natural" shape/form of the subject as it is not altered bu the wide angle effect
Cons :
- F/4 minimum aperture instead of F/2.4 DoF effect, but as DoF is usually a problem in proxy/macro photography you usuelly whant more DoF anyway so this is not a real problem
- F/4 instead of F/2.4 mean you need more light around or increase ISO or decrease speed but personnaly I rarely do proxy shots in low light condition
- Stabilisation at full zoom, you need to be a bit more steady but personnaly this has never been a problem and RX10 4.5 stabilisation stops is good enought for me.
As a hobbyist user of the Song RX10 IV. I have shot everything from astrophotography to zoomed in action shots. It has fundamentally improved my shooting abilities on other platforms due to keeping it in manual settings most of the time allowing me to hone my skills in a wide range of shots.
It is hands down the perfect family camera. Light weight and versatile on outdoor vacations. You just can not beat it but sometimes I wish they would give me one with a full frame sensor and manual zoom. That would be my next purchase if they ever did it, I do not care of the cost lol.
I got my wife into my hobby , and i gave her my A6300 and the 18-105 performs well , but the changing of the lenses was a pain for her , The Sony RX10 IV is a great all in one , it will never be as tack sharp as a 100-400 GM on the A7RIII but that not what we got it for its a Very good Camera for the Novice photographer take very good shots a lot of keepers with Very little fuss , And the 24 FPS WOW it is a great All around camera . Thank you Great content .
I must be a soccer dad because I went for a walk in the paddock with the RX10iv earlier today. I could have chosen my EOS RP, XC10 or A6000 but the handheld video stabilization at 600mm is incredible on the RX10iv
Congratulations Evelyn. 😃💛 Stay safe.
Please make a video of comparing those files and some low light shots side by side in Lightroom. That would certainly draw a clear difference tn the image quality, I hope.🤔
I traded 2 x Nikon D750's plus several lenses for a Sony RX10 IV and a Sony RX1r II as I was fed up with carrying so much weight.
Nice. I have been thinking of doing the same thing. I think I will buy the RX100 VIII later this year (or when it comes out), the RX10 VI and the successor to the RX1r II...
I too have Nikon D750 and my Sony RX10 M4 is on its way. However, I won't trade off with the D750 to explore anything with aperture below f2.6.
@@view5558 I have also purchased a Sony A7C with 3 prime F1.8 lenses.
Very nice presentation! I have the RX10 IV and some curiosity about the A9 but no interest in changing or carrying lenses. Both very awesome kit. Thanks!
I have the RX10MK IV and the a7RIV w/100mm-400mm GM w/ the 1.4x Teleconverter Lens
SEL14TC (which I don't use very often) and the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM adapted with the less expensive Altson Mound adapter CEF - SE C/P, which by the way works great for what I do - no video. Actually I have more video time on the RX10MK IV. The a7R IV also has a crop mode which I don't use very often because the quality of the full frame POST cropped is better. There is a place for each and I do use both. The down side of these two Sony sensors is "noise". I was spoiled with my Canon EOS 5D Mark IV. The move from Canon to Sony 61mp camera was predicated on deep field crops which at this point Sony has everyone beat in this price range including the a9 MKII (except for the noise). Back to noise, I almost sent the a7R IV back because of disappointment over that fact. Then I remembered a program that I had read about, Topaz DeNoise AI. (They give you a free 30 days to try it and I did and purchased their package). Downside is as with anything added to workflow it takes time to do the AI on an image. Topaz does what I needed and solved my noise problems with the Sony sensor(s). I even went back to my early days with the Canon Xti and some negatives from that time. DeNoise AI did amazing things with those. Enough with the commercial for Topaz. I take the RX10MK IV with me when I am taking images that don't need to cropped much. The Zeiss-Sonnar T* f/2.4-4 lens (corrected for the RX10 sensor) is better than other higher zoom range bridge cameras. That is why this camera cost more than other bridge packages. The dynamic range of all the current bridge cameras does not even compare with the higher end cameras. None of the manufactures give away their technology unfortunately. My perfect mix and match camera of today would be a 61mp low noise sensor with the specs of the a9 MK II or 5DMK IV spot focus system. My Canon did a little better with complex zoomed in images using spot focus.
Excellent, merci (from France) Looking to change my old Nikon and heavy lenses I travel a lot l and I walk for days in our Pyrénées Mountains. So I look to avoid too much weight, I was still hesitatinge because of the 1 Inch "capteur" , no full frame, either no APS C. I though the "capteur" (don't know in english the word) was too little to obtain good quality .... But your movie is really good to make a decision on this point, thank you
And as it is a camera from 2017, do you know if the MarkV will soon appears ?
The RX10 M4 is not perfect but it is an amazing piece of kit. I primarily use it for photographing cricket, and players are happy with the clear results it gets. Being able to shoot 24 fps is great, and allows me to get the 'moment' shot much more often than I used to. I also love the slowmotion footage
Great video, thank you.
I have the RX10 IV ... amazing System, great results... my go to field camera. I have the 200-600 and an a7iii.. heavier, but not too bad, a little unwieldy for long walks ... for when those long shots must be museum quality. BTW RX10 IV has amazing impressive movie capability, especially slow motion.
@@thomasgabriel1985 I’ve never used it for that, but I have used it for ocean waves, and have been very happy with the results. I like the RX10 IV for its versatility, relative simplicity and it wide to 600mm capability in one small package.
the RX10 is the must have for travelling, I like this camera, even if I'm also a A7R3 owner and many lenses...
I'm still holding back to buy the RX10 IV cause i'm waiting for the RX10 V
Also having a A7R3 and trie to just bring a 55mm 1.8 & 70-300mm 4,5-5,6... max 24-105 4 as light 3rd Addition 😅..
@@alex.projects1400 Do you know when the V will appears ? I'm looking for that too?
@@loasisdenat4151 Nobody knows. It's actually way to late in compare to the former release cycle. I hope the RX10 V will have the same Battery size than A7iii series.. and if so much time has passed, I hope they have added some nice features. Like build in ND filter or more focal length.
Can you adjust the aperture on 10iv
I certainly couldn't see much of a difference in iq between the two while watching on my 65" tv
I still love my SONY RX10iii from 2016, but I'm so ready to purchase the RX10v5. If SONY is going to make it ? ? ? The money is in my pocket, ready to burn. ☺
I used to own the RX10, and I really miss its versatility. It has limitations, but it is a very good camera.
I've been using rx10iv and I love it, but I only use it during daytime with sunny, bright light. When it's dark, it gets so noisy and unusable.
I watched the video because the RX10 is offered for 1079 € today (nomally over 1500), and I must decide between going for a full frame or buying the best bridge camera on the market. Although the RX10 really makes good pictures, the difference between them and the pictures of a full frame with a good lens is just too big. Your video convinced me to wait for a good offer of one of my prefered candidates of full frame cameras. Thank you! Hopefully I don't have to wait till next Black Friday :)
Soccer is exactly the reason I'm looking at the RX10 - weather sealed, 4K video, open lens, and reach across a large field with autofocus and tracking! Hoping for a mark V soon!!!
#teamsony! I had the Sony a7iii sold it and now I have the a7RIV and love both of them like crazy. I would think about the a9ii but I don't do sports photography for a living so I feel as though the RIV is better for what I do. The RX10IV would be the perfect gift for someone who wants a crazy nice camera and doesnt care about lenses or anything like that.
With the new firmware on the A9 II you don't need to open up the sensor to the elements anymore while changing the lens. It's unfortunate that such an update is only available for that camera.
Thanks for the video folks, that was informative. May the lord bless your hands.
Thanks so much for this fun side by side review. I've owned the RX10 (III & IV) for several years and love it. I aspire to have something full frame someday, but I can't imagine ever leaving the incredible versatility and convenience of the RX10. I bugs me that most main stream photography channels seem to ignore the existence of the RX10, even though they'll extol the virtues of the compact RX100 (which I also own). Congrats and blessings to you and your baby. Be safe!
Thanks for this practical review! Would be better if RX10 did more BIF so we get better sense of real life AF comparison.
2:07 haha so trueee, I wonder if there is one way for Sony to offer a mechanical zoom lens in a similar form factor even if it becomes more expensive and less video focused.
I have tried an RX10M4 for a extended period of time before and lucky for us, there is a slight compromise we can take. Sony allows the RX10M4 to step zoom instead of going through all focal lengths and change the zoom speed too. It changes zoom faster, BUT there is a catch: it will only stop by on the marked focal lengths on the lens barrel. But it is definitely faster. The actual compromise? You might end up either with pictures that need some cropping or pictures that are quite tight in the composition. For being unable to change zoom while shooting, I go like, take pictures with full time AF at 10fps (instead of 24fps) and if I have to stop for a brief second, move the zoom barrell just slightly with step zooming and it will change focal lengh to something more usable and continue shooting at 10fps (or 24 fps if I have to).
So at the end of the day, an RX10M4 might have plenty of compromises, both good or bad, but if you work with those, you end up with great results.
One of my best daylight trips with the lightest combo ever covering between 16 thru 600mm in FF terms was with a Sony A7II w/ Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM and a RX10M4. All in a small bag. I never felt the urge to wish I had my 70-400mm F4-5.6 G SSM II with me because the RX10M4 focused very fast and in daylight the sensor performs quite well for a 1.0Type sensor (as long as you shoot below ISO800 and without any DRO mode, saving me a lot of luggage weight and space.
Try a shoot out with the rx100vii vs the the bridge camera but it can wait until all is back to 'normal' Hope all goes well for you Evelyn; wishing you all the best!
Chryseas S. I have the RX10m4 and the RX100m7. The RX100 gets far more use because of it’s size. You can throw it in your pocket whenever you go out. The RX10 is a bit more cumbersome. Where the RX10 shines in comparison is the zoom, better battery life and slightly better DoF. Also, with it’s larger body and weight, the ergonomics and stability are better. If I had to choose I’d pic the RX100...luckily I don’t have to make that choice :)
Definitely the RX10 mark 4 for me. I’m over carrying all that gear. I particularly like the 600 zoom and that it can also take macro - all in one package! And the quality of the photos is really excellent!
A pretty good balance between the "goofy" stuff and actual inf9rmation. Thumbs up.
Awesome, love you 😊.
Love you job! )
Cool comparison!
I shoot live events with Bridge Cameras, the other people shoot DSLRS, I can get a range of shots by shooting wide to show the audience with speaker and step in. It provides a different experience and is good enough for website posting and small prints. The Deeper depth of field works well for events where the background is part of the Story.
When trying to take small birds in flight I'm very happy to be using an RX10 iv rather than a 600mm f/4 prime on a FF body. Swallows, especially are so agile it's difficult enough to track them with the RX10 and the inertia of a heavy lens would make that way more difficult.
Wow... i`m impressd about the Picture Quality of that 1`` Sensor! Thanks for this Video!
Great video! RX10 Impressed me!
At 74 years young, im starting to find carrying a backpack with my canon 70d and 2 or sometimes 3 lenses a tad challenging to say the least. It's the swinging the back pack on and off that pulls my back muscles. Then it's finding somewhere to rest the bag to remove the camera and set it up and then or then doing a lens change.
My latest effort was to capture the full moon rising using a good 70-300 with the camera on a tripod. The results were not too bad but I went into a FOMO sulk when compared to my friend's brilliant results caught with his Sony RX10 m4.
So, yup, that's very soon on my next to buy list. 😊
Man, the RX10 IV looks great.
I've had an RX10 MkIV for a month and just can't help shooting everything - the Moon, bugs, birds, foxes, deer, landscapes, flowers, people, aeroplanes, clouds and, oh, it's the best telescope I ever had 😎😀
Great comparison , both cameras have their merits , I love my A73 , I also have an old nikon P900 which i also use at times .
If I Go on holidays I take both with me , the P900 is my legs , the A73 is my walking around and quality shots 😁.
One of my favorite shots I have taken with my bridge camera which I could not have taken with my sony due to my lens selection,
was a pic of a police helicopter hovering about 500 meters away , could see the pilots head with sunny's on , and hand on the controls and very clear writing on the helicopter down to warnings for maintenance items on the chopper body .
How’s the image stabilization on this bridge camera ? That seems to be helping.
HI and good question, Sony has always put in some great stabilization, in the case of the RX10 IV Sony claims up to 4.5 stops.. Shooting with this camera, especially on the long end, you really need to watch shutter speeds of course but a strong OS helps get more keepers. Thanks, hope this helps.
I’m a bridge camera guy and love my Panasonic Lumix fz1000mk2
Good presentation!!!!
where is rx10 v?
This! The RX10 IV is from October 2017. Still an excellent really excellent camera, but with Sony releasing a new camera in every other line every year the RX10 V is long overdue.
Nice idea. Certainly, doing this test in bright daylight does not reveal potential differences in low light capabilities. But a bridge camera can be a good alternative (or supplement) for special occasions. One word to „background separation“. Although technically correct, you haven‘t been able to demonstrate the advantages/disadvantages in your shootout - in fact: the background separation of the A9 sensor was sometimes distracting - I wanted to see more of the animals in focus - while the lack of it of the RX10 helped when composing shots (the boy under the bridge for example). For me the conclusion is quite simple: It is not about technical specs and comparison of noise levels and background blur
Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
I use a rx10 iv and a rx1 for travelling. Perfect combo.
A great review... yes some people will find it "unfair" : 1" sensor vs FF sensor. But you disclose it in the title.
But you , people, have made a big point... photography is more than selfie or gears... It's a mix of gears, knowledge, composition, art,...
Before investing in a lot of gears, take a step back and think of what you really want to do.
Thanks.
Sony #RX10MIV is an impressive bridge camera. I learned photography using a Caon 1/2.3" sensor bridge. Lessons well learned, did not have problems at all when I bought my first APSC.
I am wondering what Sony will bring to photographers with the next upgrade of this bridge: #SonyRX10MV.
Bridge cameras are relevant and a great option for: other companies will definitely work hard to match a RX10M5 capabilities like : Canon Powershot G3X M2, Panasonic Lumix FZ2500/2000 M2, why not a Nikon Coolpix 1" sensor like the cancelled DL24-500.
Keep the good job.
Nice review. You talked about cleaning your sensor, on 7:22 in the video you find the proof 😉 still I liked the video, and love your gear 👍👌
Could you please elaborate on how f4 becomes f11 at 600mm on RX10 M4?
Hi, great question. It all has to do with sensor size and depth of field, not light gathering. With the much smaller sensor of the RX10, the range in focus or the Depth of field is much broader then that of a full frame. To get the same depth of field on a full frame that matches the 1" sensor at F/4 you would need to shoot at roughly F/11. Hope this helps.
Thanks
The RX10IV is pretty solid value if you get a gently used one for ~$1,200. That said, you're locking yourself into one lens and a small sensor. One my A6400 I recently nabbed a $160 macro lens and could try out a whole new type of photography, whereas with an RX you would need to pick up a whole new body.
If you're going to mostly be outdoors, hate swapping lenses, and/or love the idea of a ton of zoom, the RX10s are a good solution. I did a trip to bright Taiwan last year that would have been perfect for an RX10. If you don't need all that zoom the RX100s are much more portable for a good 24-200mm equivalent lens. If you're looking to build a versatile photography setup, something like an A6400 + 70-350mm G gives you almost the same reach with the possibility for more specialized lenses like primes, macro, UWA, etc.
Hopefully Sony releases an RX10V with blackout free EVF, UHS-II, a front, dial, and other refinements.
To clarify, I own an RX100VI and really enjoy it for travel and around-town photos. The RX series are great cameras if you're comfortable with each model's trade-offs.
Great video. A more fair comparison might be against an APSC system though. I don’t think A9II buyers would be on the fence with bridge cameras but the A6xxx line cameras are more similarly priced.
Great job
Very nice