Wow. What a difference when you get the right reviewers for the company. Never a fan of dpreview TH-cam channel review. But now it will be my to go channel for review. Nice job guys. Keep it up. And stay original.
Having been an amateur enthusiast with an SLR back in the day and a DSLR up until recently, I lost interest in photography (certainly with the DSLR) for some reason (well, mainly the need to lug bodies and lenses around when I travelled). Now, with a view to getting back into photography by taking advantage of these kinds of cameras that do so much in a single unit, I really appreciate your review. I've just starting looking at the range of bridge cameras out there, and hope to see more from you guys. Clear, concise, honest and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
Do you think that a 18-300 or 18-400 can take the good quality like this? Because a read bad opinion for tamron 18-400, and the F is worse than this. I d like to see some (vs) picture of the same sobject.
Channel growing???? Of course it's going to grow, especially you are Chris and Jordan. You two guys are a great team and work extremely well together. DP Review is lucky to have you and you them. Your reviews are sensational and the video to match. Keep doing what you are doing and your subscribers will be even larger than they were before. Please don't forget what you always did for the Christmas reviews, when you talked about next years tech over drinks, hilarious. You two are bright stars on the TH-cam horizon. There are plenty of people on You Tube that need to step up their game, but you two are not one of them. Keep up the good work.
For a lot of people, this is all the camera you'll ever need. And for all the focal length it has, it may be cheaper in the long run than buying multiple lenses. I'm hoping the next version has the new Sony battery and at least UHS-II SD if not XQD for a damn near infinite buffer. The addition of built in ND filters would be awesome even if a bit of bulk was added. The camera has great ergonomics as long as you're not back button focusing. The MI hotshoe is handy too because it allows you to use anything you already have for other Sony cameras. I was able to use a Phottix Odin II on it which is awesome.
The best camera review I have ever seen. The stills made me want to go out and take pictures. I don't shoot video often, but I really like Jordan's take on the video capabilities of cameras.
Having both in depth photography and video reviews, humour and Canadian make you two my favourite reviewers. You guys and the straight pipes for cars. They also Canadian.
Dang, that girl at 13:25 looked like Jackie Kennedy in some awesome jeans. Anyway, price and drawbacks aside, the results from this camera were great in my opinion. I'm not a Sony fan, but they do come out with some very nice gear. Nice review guys.
I bought this camera a couple weeks ago and i'm really loving it. It's perfect for just walking around town taking shots, and it produces video MUCH better than my rebel camera. It's definitely not a camera for a pro sports photog or wedding photog, but for a guy who likes taking photos and making silly youtube videos it's perfect. Also the electric zoom can be controlled with the mobile app which is nice for someone who films themselves with a camera on a tripod.
Great review, so comprehensive. You didn't cover minimum focal distance and macro, though. The price seems outrageous, as it appears to be the same hardware as the last generation with some software features like AF and continuous shooting. Lacking IBIS does not make sense, because when you zoom the picture seems to get soft, would be nice if there's IBIS working in conjunction with OIS. Wish there's manual zoom instead, much faster, but that means the lens wouldn't be able to pack up tightly when you turn it off. I like Jordan's idea of having a 24-200 mm lens with constant aperture instead, because 200 mm seems plenty of zoom, yet 600 mm makes it fun, yet images don't seem that sharp when you zoom all the way out. Maybe a competitor can do a 24-200 mm version, maybe Canon could. I've been anticipating this camera for a long time because I want to see a refresh that includes the new features of the rx100 v, especially the AF, which this camera seems to have outdone it with an A9 like AF. I think it's a great camera, but given the huge price increase, the lack of IBIS, and the softness, the slow on/off and the lack of manual zoom, and the small battery, it still doesn't feel perfected. For the price I want a near perfect product. I don't know, even if it were perfect it's still very expensive. I wonder if they are going to refresh the rx1 next.
For future videos maybe think about including Dan with short tech analysis? He could record his segment in SF and then you'd merge it with the Canadian side of DPR. Anyway great video as usual, some amazing photos from Chris (3:00) and Dan (13:14), keep it up.
I dunno why buy I enjoy listening to Chris. Lmao It feels like a close friend is patiently talking u through everything. And Jordan is always veeery informative with the video part of the review. 👌👌👌. Love that u guys work with DPreview now 😁
...Just have to take a moment to say: these guys are absolutely the best camera reviewers out there. DPR was totally right to snag them from TCS. The. Very. Best.
Great review! There was no mention of what you were using for recording audio though. Particularly on that zoom-in test video. I didn't see a lavaliere mic there, but you had one hidden, obviously. What did you use during that video shoot? I'm looking for a good mic setup for video, so I'd appreciate your response. Thx!
I was able to get one used, a few months after initial release. At about 25% less than retail I think this camera is amazing! And the ergonomics - compared to my a6300 it's a dream to hold.
I took a bit of a gamble purchasing the RX10 M4, having never owned a bridge camera before, having previously owned a 350D and a 450D Canon SLRs (and the A1 film camera before that). I'm not much into video, so cannot comment on that authoritatively, but I love the long lens range zoom wise, the autofocus, and the slowmo (though I agree with your criticism of having to prefocus and prezoom then you are locked out). Other than travel, I am mainly photographing cricket, and it's a game where pre-focusing a bowler or a batsman is not a blocker in use. A few things you did miss 1) The eye viewfinder does not show 100% of what gets recorded, I only noticed as at 24mm with the lens hood on the corners of the photo show parts of the lens hood 2) I am unable to do macro photography a la SLR with it 3) Panning photography in bright light is a no no (this is due to the lack of an ND filter that was mentioned in the video context, but I could not shoot panning shots of dragon boats in Thailand in bright sunshine). 4) If using 'Clear Image Zoom' where software interpolates beyond the optical zoom, the autofocus can sometimes fail big time. You essentially lose the auto tracking. But it's the most amazing camera I've ever owned in terms of versatility, perhaps a companion compact camera to fill the holes mentioned above would be the ideal travelling combination
If anyone in Sony reads this, all I want in RX10 V (not necessarily for Cristmass) is (in order of priority): -UHS-II card slot -Focus point joystick -Improved IS -Improved weather-sealing -Their best AF in all non-HFR modes -Dual gain ISO -USB C for power, charging and data transfer -fully articulated touchscreen -bigger battery with longer battery life -tripod screw mount closer to the lens and not near the edge -5/6K30p 8-bit 4.2.0 (10-bit would be awsome) - internal -4K30p 10-bit 4.2.2 full width, oversampled (60p would be awsome) - internal -HFR same as RX10 IV but at slightly better quality -24-bit audio without XLR adapter? I would pay any money!
After a year of other reviews, you guys still top them all. Good explanation about what we want to know and nothing else. I'm sure you have more info on the website for those who are crazy picky with specs that will just be topped with the next camera.
I'm trying to decide between this, the Panisonic Fz2500 and the Nikon P1000. Video will be school events in halls and the occasional sporting days. Primarily will be still shots. I love nature shots, especially birds and long exposures of waterfalls. Given that, i feel the low light capabilities is a must, but sometimes with nature it is impossible to get close to what you are photographing, hence i need a decent zoom with good quality images. Any suggestions or guidance?
Now that you guys are doing this show on a weekly basis, I am very happy and hope the pressure to produce high quality reviews won't be too great in the long run.
I do have this camera and agree low light is a issue but get the light on the subject and it Booms into action. love it but need a camera for that low light shot. enjoyed the video you sum it up well. thanks,, I'm now a subscriber... Ding
I am not a photographer and have no expertise in the field. I am an IT Director by profession and enjoy exploring features, tweaking, etc. I want to be able to take the best shots I can on an Alaskan cruise we are taking next year. A guy at B&H Photo recommended the Rx10 IV to me based on some things I told him (i.e. I explore features, photograph landscapes, wildlife, sports and evening activities downtown. Objective reviews really help as I zero in on what I want to purchase. Many thanks.
Really great to see how fast u guys put out new videos. Thats what i was hoping for when u switched to dpreview. the time between tcstc videos was kinda long and lonely.
I just watched the conclusion and it was exactly what i expected to hear. What i didn't expect was for this camera to be one of your first Dpreview video reviews. Have people really been asking for this ? I will be waiting for the Tamron 28/75 f2.8 e mount review and the Sigma 70 macro and 105 f1.4 e mount reviews.
I agree with Jordan and thats why I like RX10 Mark 1. 1) Build in ND filter means you never run out of shutter speed and your flash works in the midday sun, and 2) constant 2.8 aperture means your video does not get dark as you are zooming in. RX10 Mark 2 is even better because it adds 4K. Mark 3 and Mark 4 removed the ND filter and changed it to variable aperture cameras.
Thanks Emmanuel! I was feeling the camera on this trip. It does impart a sense of confidence when using it. Nice when a camera just works well. The overwhelming consensus on this camera is that its a solid performer so they did something right. Chris@DPREVIEW
Yeah Chris, I do mean this as a compliment but your photos this time had the highest 'pause' rate for me. Wherein I actually paused the video to just enjoy the wonderful photos. Not saying that your work earlier was poor. Just saying that you've obviously hit a high note. Good to know the camera also felt right. Out of all the TH-camrs I keep up with, your opinion is the one I trust the most.
I think for it to be a good family camera, it needs: 1. videoshoot piano recitals. How does it work in low light, how is the onboard mic, does it overheat, does it have the 30 minute shooting limit, how long does the battery last. 2. Trips to the zoo. It has nice zoom, so its covered. 3. Per wee sports game. The electronic zoom's slowness could be an issue? Good to have the new AF here. 4. Ease of use, intuitive UI, which seems to be a little lacking here.
as stated in the review the one inch sensor impedes its low light functionality. onboard mic is just ok.. use an external mic since it has a jack for it. Yes it has a 30 minute video limit. battery rated at 400 shots. Its a great camera for me. I love it!
very fair review Chris and Jordan...one of my favorite Sony cameras ever...and Jordan, I am with you -- I would like the RX10II v2 as well!! Give me the PDAF, back button focus, stacked sensor AND the NDs and you've got a fantastic camera! Nice to see you guys at Kando!!
I’ve had the RX10 IV for 3+ years and it’s great! I love my A7RIII, but the long zooms are just to large and bulky. This camera is light to carry, the perfect travel camera.
Can the RX10 IV use Catalyst software image stabilization? Apparently it used gyroscopic data to fix the video in post processing. But I can't figure out if the IV allows this? The RX10 II is listed as being compatible, but I can't find out if the IV is.
Would you still recommend this camera in 2022? I'm in the market for a new camera for traveling and such, but I'm not sure if I want to wait for the mark 5 that might not come or one of the new mirror less that I'm not used to.
This is as good an ad for Monterey as it is for the RX10 IV. And that means great. I was just in Monterey last weekend and, having been there dozens of times, I never tire of it. And as much as I resist getting a bridge camera (even though I've owned two 1-inch models) I would love to get my hands on one of these Sonys. Good job.
OMG I 100% agree with Jordan about the RX10 2. I never owned that one, but I've used it, and I tell you what....I was turned off after they went superzoom and variable. If they did like he said, and made it with phase detect....I'd buy one too!
@@TamanduaGirl the AF of my fz300 is good enough to capture small active birds (like sunbirds) at 600mm equivalent focal length. I even prefer the af speed and decisiveness of my fz300 than my em-1 mark2 which utilize pdaf. Truly impressed by the dfd tech.
What would your recommendation be between the Sony RX10iii, Sony RX10iv, and Panasonic FZ2500? I want this camera specifically to film hunts from open field edges to dense timber.
Can I use this camera with the Seek app in my phone to identify birds insects etc. in real time? Or do I have to manually take a shot and transfer the photo to the phone and then open it in the Seek app?
Awesome! Seems like nothing has changed with the move in terms of your videos! Also, I was really impressed with the sharpness of the video on this camera. Watching on my 4k screen I was leaning in to look at all of Jordan's beautiful sharply rendered stubble!
I love bridge cameras for HD video. Close-up/macro photography is also excellent. These days it's not about the camera so much as it is what a photographer can manipulate an image using software editing tools. Still undecided, since I have no real use for Raw images. Still in a indecisive mood as to the Sony RX10IV or the Nikon P1000. Whichever the product I order from B&H Photo...it'll be my "B," camera for four or five years.
I’ve had mine since last year and the lack of manual zoom is the number issue for me. To the point I’m thinking of trading it in while it retains some value.
Hi Richard It has a electronic zoom that can be operated manually but it isn’t a real manual zoom. You're limited to the maximum speed of the electric motor which is much slower to react and move than a true manual.
Can the RX10 IV use the Catalyst image stabilization processing in post processing in software? I know the RX10 II is listed as being able to use Catalyst by applying gyroscopic data to the processing to stabilize the footage in catalyst. But I can't find any information about the RX10 IV.
You can make zooming easier by swapping the actions of the front two rings. it's nothing like a 1" sensor, Sony calls it 1-type which evidently has caused confusion. Cover the shutter button with duct tape. Unless you're doing contre-jour leave the hood off, protect the lens with Hoya HD nano UV.
I cut my teeth with Minolta - when Sony bought the camera division I waited to see how things would go. So the first releases of Sony DSLRs backwards compatible with Minolta AF (D) lenses and flashes so all was well. So now my aging Alpha A350 body (14 MP) is now so dated. I've just now started to look around for my successor - this Bridge camera seems like a winner. It will not take the place of the truly Pro stuff but it is way above the typical point and shoot offerings out there. So The RX10 IV is my number one choice at this moment. My not willing to start over with a expensive DSLR set up of body, 6 lenses and high end flash. It would be $10K or more to replace everything I now have but be up to date. So onward with the RX10 (probably) Thank you for this review. I found it very helpful.
Screen doesnt tilt other way? neither does the A7iii, low battery life? carry spares, to me you are reviewing this like it was a pro camera, fact they put a 600mm is amazing and so is the 24fps, if I had seen this before I bought the A7Riii I might have been tempted.
While it's not a true "pro" level camera - it is amazing for what it is and yes, this review is overly negative compared to most. Like the comment about the zoom being slow...really? Compare it to changing a lens. I get so many shots the interchangeable lens crowd will miss entirely.
Great test you two. The video quality out of this camera looks about like I thought it would, maybe a bit worse. If it was shot in S-Log 2, maybe I’d have a slightly different opinion, but the tight highlight roll off, absence of really any shallow DoF, soft image quality during long zooms, small sensor color palate/control, idk- I hoped I’d be more impressed. It reminds me of the X70 camcorder (for obvious reasons). Good test though guys.
Thank you for the great review! Love my RX10 III. The review did not quite answer whether the RX10 IV is a worthy upgrade, but still enjoyed hearing your opinions a lot. Never looked at it as the minivan of cameras, but love the analogy.
It looks amazing, fully loaded and it's a Sony, so you can't go wrong. I've had a Sony F828 and it's still my favourite since 2004. This Mark IV is on my wish list. 😊
I just can't bring myself to sell my RX10 II and move up to the III/IV. The constant aperture 2.8 and ND filter are big selling points for me. I'd consider the price and lens trade off if they added 5 axis stabilization, but as it stands today the RX10.2 is in my bag with the GH4.
Guys, thank you for this honest review. Is there any other option for interviews, gun&run style. And the most important not grabbing attention. I hand shoulder mount camera but not able to use it every where.
I've been toying around with either getting the Sony RX-10 IV or the Fujifilm X-T2. I know there's pros and cons to both. How does one compare to the other. I currently have the Sony RX-10 I.
I like the minivan 🚐 analogy. Took me 3 sittings to watch this review. Difficult for me to get intrigued by a minivan. Lol. As always though happy to watch the content!
Great review, I subscribed! I have the RX10 Mk1 and I absolutely love that camera for travel, specially the lens. I'd also buy the proposed RX10 Mk ii 2 (with 24-200mm f/2.8 lens and the new sensor). Greetings from Brazil.
Very nice job, Chris and Jordan, as usual. I'm glad DPR sniped you. I can actually support DPR by clicking on links to buy, whereas I couldn't reasonably support The Camera Store. Here's a video idea: Sony RX10 IV vs. an entry level APS-C camera with a couple lenses to make up the difference in cost. For example, and entry-level Nikon APS-C camera, a 24-120 lens and then a wide angle or telephoto? This is a good way to highlight what a fellow can get for his money. Subscribed.
You guys are showing screenshots from the website, but it's visible too short to get understand what the screenshot is actually comparing (which settings, which cameras in comparison, how the results compare etc.). So either leave out the screenshots or assist the user in understanding what is shown.
I like when you guys film with the camera you are reviewing
So do we! We hope to do it often when a camera has compelling video features.
I absolutely love that you guys are sticking to what we TCTS TV subscribers love about you. Don't ever change!
Chris yelling "F5.6!!!" made my day =D
Just bought this camera (May 2023).
It is brilliant. So fast, incredible image quality, fine up to 3200 iso, great 4k video and that lens… peerless.
How do you find the battery life? I've heard not so great things about it.
@@jasonrdunn It's no problem at all.
For the money you paying - it better fckn will be.
Wow. What a difference when you get the right reviewers for the company. Never a fan of dpreview TH-cam channel review. But now it will be my to go channel for review. Nice job guys. Keep it up. And stay original.
Having been an amateur enthusiast with an SLR back in the day and a DSLR up until recently, I lost interest in photography (certainly with the DSLR) for some reason (well, mainly the need to lug bodies and lenses around when I travelled). Now, with a view to getting back into photography by taking advantage of these kinds of cameras that do so much in a single unit, I really appreciate your review. I've just starting looking at the range of bridge cameras out there, and hope to see more from you guys. Clear, concise, honest and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
what about zoom lenses having an approximate range of 18-300mm. Its more or less the same with a bigger sensor and a nice flexible range
Do you think that a 18-300 or 18-400 can take the good quality like this? Because a read bad opinion for tamron 18-400, and the F is worse than this. I d like to see some (vs) picture of the same sobject.
Channel growing???? Of course it's going to grow, especially you are Chris and Jordan. You two guys are a great team and work extremely well together. DP Review is lucky to have you and you them. Your reviews are sensational and the video to match. Keep doing what you are doing and your subscribers will be even larger than they were before. Please don't forget what you always did for the Christmas reviews, when you talked about next years tech over drinks, hilarious. You two are bright stars on the TH-cam horizon. There are plenty of people on You Tube that need to step up their game, but you two are not one of them. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the thorough and cool photographer's-eye-view of this camera.
For a lot of people, this is all the camera you'll ever need. And for all the focal length it has, it may be cheaper in the long run than buying multiple lenses. I'm hoping the next version has the new Sony battery and at least UHS-II SD if not XQD for a damn near infinite buffer. The addition of built in ND filters would be awesome even if a bit of bulk was added. The camera has great ergonomics as long as you're not back button focusing. The MI hotshoe is handy too because it allows you to use anything you already have for other Sony cameras. I was able to use a Phottix Odin II on it which is awesome.
nice to see, that your humor is still around... love you guys...
The best camera review I have ever seen. The stills made me want to go out and take pictures. I don't shoot video often, but I really like Jordan's take on the video capabilities of cameras.
That's high praise! Thank you so much!
These were like your best pictures ever in a review, Chris! Really really liked them! :)
I really appreciate hearing that. Thank you so much.
Chris@DPREVIEW
The Camera Store bus scene was classic. 👌
Having both in depth photography and video reviews, humour and Canadian make you two my favourite reviewers. You guys and the straight pipes for cars. They also Canadian.
8:17 lol that angry shout
JeffDvrx I died
Using the F-word in photography is OK. 🤪
Haha. That shout is exactly why I love watching every video these two guys make 👍
😂😂😂😂
Just got this camera. Surw hope the next version has a few tweeks thats for sure. But I'm excited to put this one to use until the mark V comes out.
Dang, that girl at 13:25 looked like Jackie Kennedy in some awesome jeans.
Anyway, price and drawbacks aside, the results from this camera were great in my opinion.
I'm not a Sony fan, but they do come out with some very nice gear. Nice review guys.
agreed
I bought this camera a couple weeks ago and i'm really loving it. It's perfect for just walking around town taking shots, and it produces video MUCH better than my rebel camera. It's definitely not a camera for a pro sports photog or wedding photog, but for a guy who likes taking photos and making silly youtube videos it's perfect. Also the electric zoom can be controlled with the mobile app which is nice for someone who films themselves with a camera on a tripod.
question if you still have the camera... is the hdmi output 4k?
Great review, so comprehensive. You didn't cover minimum focal distance and macro, though. The price seems outrageous, as it appears to be the same hardware as the last generation with some software features like AF and continuous shooting. Lacking IBIS does not make sense, because when you zoom the picture seems to get soft, would be nice if there's IBIS working in conjunction with OIS. Wish there's manual zoom instead, much faster, but that means the lens wouldn't be able to pack up tightly when you turn it off. I like Jordan's idea of having a 24-200 mm lens with constant aperture instead, because 200 mm seems plenty of zoom, yet 600 mm makes it fun, yet images don't seem that sharp when you zoom all the way out. Maybe a competitor can do a 24-200 mm version, maybe Canon could. I've been anticipating this camera for a long time because I want to see a refresh that includes the new features of the rx100 v, especially the AF, which this camera seems to have outdone it with an A9 like AF. I think it's a great camera, but given the huge price increase, the lack of IBIS, and the softness, the slow on/off and the lack of manual zoom, and the small battery, it still doesn't feel perfected. For the price I want a near perfect product. I don't know, even if it were perfect it's still very expensive.
I wonder if they are going to refresh the rx1 next.
I’ve got this camera 2 years ago.. I can tell u it’s the best I’ve ever used.. I been using it in every new country I visit.
worth the money?
@@ahmedrashed78 100%
You are best in DP review rather than the TCSTV! All the best for your new journey ✌️
For future videos maybe think about including Dan with short tech analysis? He could record his segment in SF and then you'd merge it with the Canadian side of DPR. Anyway great video as usual, some amazing photos from Chris (3:00) and Dan (13:14), keep it up.
I dunno why buy I enjoy listening to Chris. Lmao It feels like a close friend is patiently talking u through everything. And Jordan is always veeery informative with the video part of the review. 👌👌👌. Love that u guys work with DPreview now 😁
We're excited to work with DPReview as well!
@4:54 FYI, the aperture ring click can be toggled using the switch on the bottom of the lens.
Such a helpful video for someone like me who has recently bought a Sony RX10iv. Thank you!
...Just have to take a moment to say: these guys are absolutely the best camera reviewers out there. DPR was totally right to snag them from TCS. The. Very. Best.
Just picked one up, for a bridge camera it is great. I love having the reach and I am willing to give up sensor size for what I need it for.
Great review! There was no mention of what you were using for recording audio though. Particularly on that zoom-in test video. I didn't see a lavaliere mic there, but you had one hidden, obviously. What did you use during that video shoot? I'm looking for a good mic setup for video, so I'd appreciate your response. Thx!
Great review. Very thorough and informative. As well as a high production value.
Where da update ? Sony ???
Covid ate it :)
Covid is gone…..
I was able to get one used, a few months after initial release. At about 25% less than retail I think this camera is amazing! And the ergonomics - compared to my a6300 it's a dream to hold.
Devan Rawn I sold my A6300 to buy one and so glad I did! 👌
Really? Hmm, maybe I should try this thing.
Tony Gillahan
How about the difference in image quality?
Would you say it is noticeable?
νικος γιώργος a little bit worse IQ but not enough for me to worry about 👍I use it more for video
Thank you guys for your opinion! Now I also want to buy that camera!
I took a bit of a gamble purchasing the RX10 M4, having never owned a bridge camera before, having previously owned a 350D and a 450D Canon SLRs (and the A1 film camera before that). I'm not much into video, so cannot comment on that authoritatively, but I love the long lens range zoom wise, the autofocus, and the slowmo (though I agree with your criticism of having to prefocus and prezoom then you are locked out). Other than travel, I am mainly photographing cricket, and it's a game where pre-focusing a bowler or a batsman is not a blocker in use. A few things you did miss 1) The eye viewfinder does not show 100% of what gets recorded, I only noticed as at 24mm with the lens hood on the corners of the photo show parts of the lens hood 2) I am unable to do macro photography a la SLR with it 3) Panning photography in bright light is a no no (this is due to the lack of an ND filter that was mentioned in the video context, but I could not shoot panning shots of dragon boats in Thailand in bright sunshine). 4) If using 'Clear Image Zoom' where software interpolates beyond the optical zoom, the autofocus can sometimes fail big time. You essentially lose the auto tracking.
But it's the most amazing camera I've ever owned in terms of versatility, perhaps a companion compact camera to fill the holes mentioned above would be the ideal travelling combination
You shouldn't see the lenshood, are you sure it wasn't screwed on in the wrong orientation? I've done this before with other models.
Excellent job on the video guys, lots of great shots too.
If anyone in Sony reads this, all I want in RX10 V (not necessarily for Cristmass) is (in order of priority):
-UHS-II card slot
-Focus point joystick
-Improved IS
-Improved weather-sealing
-Their best AF in all non-HFR modes
-Dual gain ISO
-USB C for power, charging and data transfer
-fully articulated touchscreen
-bigger battery with longer battery life
-tripod screw mount closer to the lens and not near the edge
-5/6K30p 8-bit 4.2.0 (10-bit would be awsome) - internal
-4K30p 10-bit 4.2.2 full width, oversampled (60p would be awsome) - internal
-HFR same as RX10 IV but at slightly better quality
-24-bit audio without XLR adapter?
I would pay any money!
So much review in one single comedy video!
After a year of other reviews, you guys still top them all. Good explanation about what we want to know and nothing else. I'm sure you have more info on the website for those who are crazy picky with specs that will just be topped with the next camera.
That snap at 3:04 of the model and image is stunning. Well done.
You guys did so amazing on this review!!
High praise coming from you! Thanks!
I'm trying to decide between this, the Panisonic Fz2500 and the Nikon P1000.
Video will be school events in halls and the occasional sporting days.
Primarily will be still shots. I love nature shots, especially birds and long exposures of waterfalls. Given that, i feel the low light capabilities is a must, but sometimes with nature it is impossible to get close to what you are photographing, hence i need a decent zoom with good quality images.
Any suggestions or guidance?
I subbed bro, thats the least i can do to keep the Real camera's alive.
Love your work guys 👌 great balance of entertainment and information 😃
Now that you guys are doing this show on a weekly basis, I am very happy and hope the pressure to produce high quality reviews won't be too great in the long run.
Not a camera that I'm much interested in, but an excellent review as usual. Glad you enjoyed my backyard.
I do have this camera and agree low light is a issue but get the light on the subject and it Booms into action. love it but need a camera for that low light shot. enjoyed the video you sum it up well. thanks,, I'm now a subscriber... Ding
Love y'all's reviews! So informative and you make it so fun to watch!
I am not a photographer and have no expertise in the field. I am an IT Director by profession and enjoy exploring features, tweaking, etc. I want to be able to take the best shots I can on an Alaskan cruise we are taking next year. A guy at B&H Photo recommended the Rx10 IV to me based on some things I told him (i.e. I explore features, photograph landscapes, wildlife, sports and evening activities downtown. Objective reviews really help as I zero in on what I want to purchase. Many thanks.
Really great to see how fast u guys put out new videos. Thats what i was hoping for when u switched to dpreview. the time between tcstc videos was kinda long and lonely.
Minivan of cameras - haha, so true! I got the RX10 III for my mom and she loves it. Great review guys!
I just watched the conclusion and it was exactly what i expected to hear. What i didn't expect was for this camera to be one of your first Dpreview video reviews. Have people really been asking for this ?
I will be waiting for the Tamron 28/75 f2.8 e mount review and the Sigma 70 macro and 105 f1.4
e mount reviews.
I agree with Jordan and thats why I like RX10 Mark 1. 1) Build in ND filter means you never run out of shutter speed and your flash works in the midday sun, and 2) constant 2.8 aperture means your video does not get dark as you are zooming in. RX10 Mark 2 is even better because it adds 4K. Mark 3 and Mark 4 removed the ND filter and changed it to variable aperture cameras.
It is variable aperture mainly because the lens is 3 times the size of the mk 1 and 2.
Fantastic review!! I always learn a lot from you guys and you’re a lot of fun too. I’ve also subscribed.
Your Photos were on Point today Chris.
Thanks Emmanuel! I was feeling the camera on this trip. It does impart a sense of confidence when using it. Nice when a camera just works well. The overwhelming consensus on this camera is that its a solid performer so they did something right.
Chris@DPREVIEW
Chris Niccolls yeah. i wasn't really impressed with the camera until i saw those amazing pictures
Yeah Chris, I do mean this as a compliment but your photos this time had the highest 'pause' rate for me. Wherein I actually paused the video to just enjoy the wonderful photos. Not saying that your work earlier was poor. Just saying that you've obviously hit a high note.
Good to know the camera also felt right. Out of all the TH-camrs I keep up with, your opinion is the one I trust the most.
8:14 best scene of any camera review ever in recent history hahahaha
I think for it to be a good family camera, it needs:
1. videoshoot piano recitals. How does it work in low light, how is the onboard mic, does it overheat, does it have the 30 minute shooting limit, how long does the battery last.
2. Trips to the zoo. It has nice zoom, so its covered.
3. Per wee sports game. The electronic zoom's slowness could be an issue? Good to have the new AF here.
4. Ease of use, intuitive UI, which seems to be a little lacking here.
Fu Chen go with the rx10ii for the family aspect, better deal overall.
as stated in the review the one inch sensor impedes its low light functionality. onboard mic is just ok.. use an external mic since it has a jack for it. Yes it has a 30 minute video limit. battery rated at 400 shots. Its a great camera for me. I love it!
very fair review Chris and Jordan...one of my favorite Sony cameras ever...and Jordan, I am with you -- I would like the RX10II v2 as well!! Give me the PDAF, back button focus, stacked sensor AND the NDs and you've got a fantastic camera! Nice to see you guys at Kando!!
I’ve had the RX10 IV for 3+ years and it’s great! I love my A7RIII, but the long zooms are just to large and bulky. This camera is light to carry, the perfect travel camera.
Can the RX10 IV use Catalyst software image stabilization? Apparently it used gyroscopic data to fix the video in post processing. But I can't figure out if the IV allows this? The RX10 II is listed as being compatible, but I can't find out if the IV is.
Would you still recommend this camera in 2022? I'm in the market for a new camera for traveling and such, but I'm not sure if I want to wait for the mark 5 that might not come or one of the new mirror less that I'm not used to.
This is as good an ad for Monterey as it is for the RX10 IV. And that means great. I was just in Monterey last weekend and, having been there dozens of times, I never tire of it. And as much as I resist getting a bridge camera (even though I've owned two 1-inch models) I would love to get my hands on one of these Sonys. Good job.
I just bought this one...can't wait to put it to use!! Thanks for the detailed review!
OMG I 100% agree with Jordan about the RX10 2. I never owned that one, but I've used it, and I tell you what....I was turned off after they went superzoom and variable. If they did like he said, and made it with phase detect....I'd buy one too!
The Fz300 is 2.8 all the way and goes to 600mm(but the AF SUCKS since it's a few years old), so don't see why they couldn't have done the same here.
@@TamanduaGirl the AF of my fz300 is good enough to capture small active birds (like sunbirds) at 600mm equivalent focal length. I even prefer the af speed and decisiveness of my fz300 than my em-1 mark2 which utilize pdaf. Truly impressed by the dfd tech.
Nice review. Also about time DP-review got longer videos about cameras.
Master class on how reviews should be done :)
What would your recommendation be between the Sony RX10iii, Sony RX10iv, and Panasonic FZ2500? I want this camera specifically to film hunts from open field edges to dense timber.
Can I use this camera with the Seek app in my phone to identify birds insects etc. in real time? Or do I have to manually take a shot and transfer the photo to the phone and then open it in the Seek app?
with the 960fps can you film bullets fired from a gun?? what extra equipment would you need?
I'm still thinking about buying one, but waiting for RX10mkV..... great review :D
Awesome! Seems like nothing has changed with the move in terms of your videos! Also, I was really impressed with the sharpness of the video on this camera. Watching on my 4k screen I was leaning in to look at all of Jordan's beautiful sharply rendered stubble!
is there any time limit in video shooting like nikon coolpix?how you reply sir..thanks
Great review. I wish you had said something about the flash function and/ or possibilities.
I love bridge cameras for HD video. Close-up/macro photography is also excellent. These days it's not about the camera so much as it is what a photographer can manipulate an image using software editing tools. Still undecided, since I have no real use for Raw images.
Still in a indecisive mood as to the Sony RX10IV or the Nikon P1000. Whichever the product I order from B&H Photo...it'll be my "B," camera for four or five years.
I’ve had mine since last year and the lack of manual zoom is the number issue for me. To the point I’m thinking of trading it in while it retains some value.
pretty sure it has a manual zoom ring
Hi Richard
It has a electronic zoom that can be operated manually but it isn’t a real manual zoom. You're limited to the maximum speed of the electric motor which is much slower to react and move than a true manual.
i have the 10m3, and your right, it is a pain, same as the manual focus, not a real manual focus at all.
Great video guys. Love the style, keep it up!
I take photo with this camera .It's amazing for nature , street and Portrait photography.
Can the RX10 IV use the Catalyst image stabilization processing in post processing in software? I know the RX10 II is listed as being able to use Catalyst by applying gyroscopic data to the processing to stabilize the footage in catalyst. But I can't find any information about the RX10 IV.
You can make zooming easier by swapping the actions of the front two rings. it's nothing like a 1" sensor, Sony calls it 1-type which evidently has caused confusion. Cover the shutter button with duct tape. Unless you're doing contre-jour leave the hood off, protect the lens with Hoya HD nano UV.
hi, nikon p1000 is limited in 30 min video shooting, right? how about sony rx10 iv .is the a limit in video shooting?please reply, thanks
Unfortunately, the RX10 IV also has a 30 min recording limit. We’re hopeful this will be removed on the next iteration.
Jordan @ DPReview TV
I cut my teeth with Minolta - when Sony bought the camera division I waited to see how things would go. So the first releases of Sony DSLRs backwards compatible with Minolta AF (D) lenses and flashes so all was well. So now my aging Alpha A350 body (14 MP) is now so dated. I've just now started to look around for my successor - this Bridge camera seems like a winner. It will not take the place of the truly Pro stuff but it is way above the typical point and shoot offerings out there. So The RX10 IV is my number one choice at this moment. My not willing to start over with a expensive DSLR set up of body, 6 lenses and high end flash. It would be $10K or more to replace everything I now have but be up to date. So onward with the RX10 (probably) Thank you for this review. I found it very helpful.
Screen doesnt tilt other way? neither does the A7iii, low battery life? carry spares, to me you are reviewing this like it was a pro camera, fact they put a 600mm is amazing and so is the 24fps, if I had seen this before I bought the A7Riii I might have been tempted.
While it's not a true "pro" level camera - it is amazing for what it is and yes, this review is overly negative compared to most. Like the comment about the zoom being slow...really? Compare it to changing a lens. I get so many shots the interchangeable lens crowd will miss entirely.
Nice video man. Love your vids
What camara would you recommend for jewelry pictures and videos ? Also just to take to events, beach etc with a good zoom ? Thanks
Great test you two. The video quality out of this camera looks about like I thought it would, maybe a bit worse. If it was shot in S-Log 2, maybe I’d have a slightly different opinion, but the tight highlight roll off, absence of really any shallow DoF, soft image quality during long zooms, small sensor color palate/control, idk- I hoped I’d be more impressed. It reminds me of the X70 camcorder (for obvious reasons). Good test though guys.
Great Vid as usual! More please very soon!!!!
How clean are the mic premaps in this? What's the noise floor like with an external mic?
Thank you for the great review! Love my RX10 III. The review did not quite answer whether the RX10 IV is a worthy upgrade, but still enjoyed hearing your opinions a lot. Never looked at it as the minivan of cameras, but love the analogy.
It looks amazing, fully loaded and it's a Sony, so you can't go wrong. I've had a Sony F828 and it's still my favourite since 2004. This Mark IV is on my wish list. 😊
So this is where I hang out for camera updates now since they moved out from TCS
I just can't bring myself to sell my RX10 II and move up to the III/IV. The constant aperture 2.8 and ND filter are big selling points for me. I'd consider the price and lens trade off if they added 5 axis stabilization, but as it stands today the RX10.2 is in my bag with the GH4.
David Elfering I fully agree.
Those were some really nice shots all things considered.
very enjoyable piece, I love the camera...Thanks for the tips.
Guys, thank you for this honest review. Is there any other option for interviews, gun&run style.
And the most important not grabbing attention. I hand shoulder mount camera but not able to use it every where.
Hi, very good review. How good it is for macro pictures?
I've been toying around with either getting the Sony RX-10 IV or the Fujifilm X-T2. I know there's pros and cons to both. How does one compare to the other. I currently have the Sony RX-10 I.
I like the minivan 🚐 analogy. Took me 3 sittings to watch this review. Difficult for me to get intrigued by a minivan. Lol. As always though happy to watch the content!
Great review, I subscribed! I have the RX10 Mk1 and I absolutely love that camera for travel, specially the lens. I'd also buy the proposed RX10 Mk ii 2 (with 24-200mm f/2.8 lens and the new sensor). Greetings from Brazil.
The RX10 is still great in a athletics stadium. Compact for such a great reach.
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Smallrig L-bracket nr 2230.
Very nice job, Chris and Jordan, as usual. I'm glad DPR sniped you. I can actually support DPR by clicking on links to buy, whereas I couldn't reasonably support The Camera Store.
Here's a video idea: Sony RX10 IV vs. an entry level APS-C camera with a couple lenses to make up the difference in cost. For example, and entry-level Nikon APS-C camera, a 24-120 lens and then a wide angle or telephoto? This is a good way to highlight what a fellow can get for his money.
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Not one comment or comparison to the Panisonic Fz2500 bridge that in a previous review you seemed to really like. ? ?
i love the rx10 ii . its an amazing camera, and man those rx10's just get great video.
May I ask you why they were so many photographers on the seaside? Was it a kind of photographers jamboree?
You guys are showing screenshots from the website, but it's visible too short to get understand what the screenshot is actually comparing (which settings, which cameras in comparison, how the results compare etc.). So either leave out the screenshots or assist the user in understanding what is shown.
I need help in choosing my first pro camera, the Sony Rx 10 iv or the Panasonic Lumix G9? Thanks